20230815 Late CorrespondenceHonorable Mayor and City council,
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My name is Casey Carbone!. I am a Rancho Palos Verdes local. I went to St. John
Fisher, and then PV High School. I am here today to talk about a safety issue in our
local neighborhood. I grew up on Avenida Esplendida, first in house #1, diagramed
below, and when I was 4 years old, moved to house #2. When I moved to house
#2, my best friend, and later best man at my wedding, moved into my old house.
We traveled to each other's houses thousands of times over the years, both on
foot, and by bicycle, and I'm here to tell you that the crossing of this particular
intersection was perilous. Currently it is only a two way stop, as shown below, and
there is a blind curve just below the intersection. We would have to listen for cars,
and th e n run acros s the street as fast as we could, because even at 25mph, cars
would come around the curve and be in the intersection in 2 or 3 seconds. Now
today, with all the teslas and electric vehicles, it is impossible to listen for the cars
approaching . I understand there may be a proposal to put a temporary traffic
circle here, however if you've ever crossed a traffic circle on foot, it is confusing
for the drivers and dangerous for the pedestrians. I now have two little boys, and
they will be crossing this intersection many times in their lives. I believe the only
way for them to stay safe, is for the city counsel to turn this intersection into a 4-
way stop . It would be much easier, safer, and cost effective than building a traffic
circle .
Thank you for your consideration,
Casey
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From: Teresa Takaoka
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 7:56 PM
To: CityClerk
Subject: Fw: FW: 7-11-2023 Site Review Klondike Canyon Landslide Distress in Seaview Tract
Attachments: Dauntless-Exultant Water Main Break_IMG_3911.MOV; Klondike Canyon (Landslide) Water Main
Break_IMG_3705.MOV; 1982_STK Pub. - Land stability in the Klondike Canyon Area.pdf
Late corr
Teresa Takaoka
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Subject: Fwd: FW: 7-11-2023 Site Review Klondike Canyon Landslide Distress in Seaview Tract
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From: Kerwin, Scott <scott.kerwin@wsp.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:20 PM
Subject: FW: 7-11-2023 Site Review Klondike Canyon Landslide Distress in Seaview Tract
To: aram@rpvca.gov <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Steve Cummins (SCummins@dcacivileng.com) <SCummins@dcacivileng.com>, Gordon Leon
<gordon.leon@gmail.com>, Michael Barth <michael@barthlaw.com>
Ara,
I just got a call from Gordon Leon re: a proposal from Hout Construction Services for a monitoring program for the
Portuguese Bend area that is on the agenda for the City council meeting tonight. Gordon has read through the
portions of the staff report and wanted to let me know that among many other things, it includes a subsurface
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exploration program for the Seaview area. Robert Stone & Associates (Dr. Perry Ehlig) completed a similar
exploration program of the of the Seaview area for the City of RPV in 1979-80, in conjunction with concurrent
investigations of the Klondike Landslide in the surrounding area by 3 other companies (66 exploratory borings, 14
exploratory trenches, 4 inclinometers, etc.; refer to the attached 1982 publication). Additional subsurface
exploration proposed by Hout in the Seaview area would, therefore, be a redundant waste of the City’s funds, and
Hout should instead make good use of the original 1979-80 Robert Stone & Associates reports/subsurface
exploration logs, which are available in the City’s files. As the Klondike Canyon GHAD’s engineering geologic
representative, I suggest that I meet with the City’s representatives/Hout to update them on the available
information before allocating any funds for additional subsurface exploration. Installation on an inclinometer in
the beach area in the vicinity of the existing KCGHAD dewatering well would, however, provide useful information
regarding the stability conditions of the Klondike Canyon Landslide area.
I am hoping that part of that Hout’s proposed monitoring program does not include replacing/interrupting the
excellent, GPS survey monitoring work that is currently being performed by McGee Surveying Consulting. Their
survey results to date provide an invaluable resource for understanding the magnitude, direction and rate of slow
creeping movement of both the Klondike Canyon and Abalone Cove landslides.
Thanks,
Scott
Scott T. Kerwin
Senior Associate Engineering Geologist PG CEG
M: (714) 240-5456
scott.kerwin@wsp.com
WSP USA Environment & Infrastructure, Inc.
3560 Hyland Avenue, Suite 100
Costa Mesa, California, 92626
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From: Kerwin, Scott
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:11 PM
To: Steve Cummins <scummins@dcacivileng.com>
Cc: Michael Barth <michael@barthlaw.com>
Subject: 7-11-2023 Site Review Klondike Canyon Landslide Distress in Seaview Tract
Steve,
I had a good look around the subject portion of the Seaview Tract to review and photograph each of the ground
deformation/pavement cracking areas attributed to the Klondike Canyon Landslide in 1980. I have attached a
copy of my publication from 1982 re: the Klondike Canyon Landslide that includes a geologic map showing the
location of these distress features. Unfortunately, the map, and also the paper are very “geologic”, so it may be
of limited use for most people. The primary takeaway from this is that the areas of landslide distress/ground
deformation features are at the same location they were more than 40 years ago, and very slow, creeping
movement of the landslide has likely been occurring since it was first recognized in 1980. I am guessing there is
probably at least a couple of feet of old pavement between the two cracks that form the “graben” (down-dropped
tension zone) at the head of the slide beneath the intersection of Dauntless and Exultant.
I did some comparisons of my photos from 4/26, 6/13 and 7/11/2023, and the only area of noticeable change is in
the vicinity of Dauntless and Exultant. The magnitude of change and associated deformation is greatest right at
the intersection and appears decrease both laterally and seaward from that location. There doesn’t appear to be
any noticeable change in the previously mapped pavement cracking areas further seaward along Dauntless, along
Admirable, and along the frontage road for PVDS. With the possible exception of the tension cracks on Dauntless
down the street from the intersection, these other areas of pavement cracking attributed to the landslide are
relatively subtle, so you need to know what you are looking for.
During my review I had some discussion with Don Schmid, who lives in the house on the north side of the
intersection (4361 Dauntless). He is apparently the one who has reported each of the several water main breaks
in the area to Cal Water (5 total: two in relatively quick succession near the corners on the southerly side; two
adjacent to Klondike Canyon in the offsite area behind the homes; and apparently the most recent break, again on
the southerly side of the intersection). Don was nice enough to send me some videos of the flow from the broken
mains, but I was only able to get copies of two of the videos to play, and they are attached.
On 7/11, the magnitude of settlement in the graben area at the intersection had probably doubled since my last
review about a month ago, and the City has closed the roads at the intersection. While I was there, the City’s
representatives were making preparations to video the sewer line in that area. The vacant house at the southerly
corner of the intersection has been red-tagged. The two areas of cracks in the exterior wall of the house along
Exultant that I have previously photographed appear to have increased a bit since 4/26/2023, but not as
dramatically as you would expect from the condition of the nearby roadway. The majority of the ground
deformation in the pavement at the intersection can likely be attributed to saturation and associated hydro-
compression of the earth materials comprising the graben/tension zone beneath/near the intersection as a result
of the water main breaks. Similar effects may have also occurred in the vicinity of the water main breaks near
Klondike Canyon.
In general, the local rate of slide movement appears to have accelerated in response to the recent heavy seasonal
rainfall, but observed displacements outside the area of the Dauntless/Exultant intersection (i.e., areas not
affected by the water main breaks) are consistent with the history of the landslide movement over the previous
40+ years. Comparisons using the GPS monitoring measurements in October-November will provide hard data re:
the rate and distribution of the ground movement in the slide area.
Please contact me if you have any questions or comments.
Scott
From: Steve Cummins <scummins@dcacivileng.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:28 AM
To: 'PB Club' <office@pbcbeachclub.com>; Kerwin, Scott <scott.kerwin@wsp.com>
Cc: Michael Barth <michael@barthlaw.com>
Subject: RE: PIcs
Hi Scott,
If you’re going to be looking at the PBC issue then please also swing by the Dauntless intersection. The Water
Company appears to have gotten the water line breaks taken care of but the intersection is a disaster at this
point.
Steve
Steve Cummins, P.E.
President / CEO
DCA Civil Engineering Group, Inc., SBE, LSBE
17625 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 300
Torrance, CA 90504-3495
310/327-0018 Telephone
949/753-8100
310/327-0175 FAX
E-Mail: scummins@dcacivileng.com
http://www.dcacivileng.com
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Scott
See below pics forgot to include.
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TO: HONORABLE MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
FROM: CITY CLERK
DATE: AUGUST 15, 2023
SUBJECT: ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
_____________________________________________________________________
Attached are revisions/additions and/or amendments to the agenda material presented
for tonight’s meeting.
Item No. Description of Material
Non-Agenda Email from Jeff Cameron
D Email from Gary Palmer
3 Email from Noel Park; Email exchange between City Manager
Mihranian and Noel Park
6 Updates from Staff and Fact Sheet
** PLEASE NOTE: Materials attached after the color page(s) were submitted
through Monday, August 14, 2023**.
Respectfully submitted,
_______________
Teresa Takaoka
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Subject:FW: Los Verdes Golf Course Netting
Attachments:Support of Los Verdes Netting.docx
From: Jeff Cameron <capt.jeffcameron@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 1:50 PM
To: CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Los Verdes Golf Course Netting
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Please provide the attachment to the Mayor and City Council tonight (non-agenda item).
Thank you.
Jeff Cameron
President
La Cresta Pointe Homeowners Association
August 15, 2023
Dear Mayor and Members of the City Council,
Subject: Los Verdes Golf Course Netting
Please take a moment to fully understand the issues and years of frustration with Los Verdes Golf
Course that has led up to the installation of the netting at the golf course.
When La Cresta Pointe homes were completed and occupied in 1988 we began noticing errant golf balls
hitting our roofs and landing in our yards, the street and breaking our windows. Over the course of the
past few years the problem has accelerated. A master bathroom window was shattered with a golf ball
landing in the bathtub on two separate occasions. Thankfully no one was bathing at the time! Small
children playing in the front yard were almost hit by one. A ball whizzed past the eye of someone
collecting their mail. There are numerous other major events and incidents, cited regarding safety and
damage. We’ve had hundreds of clay roof tiles damaged and replaced regularly. Our homes are not
visible from the golf course.
Our HOA has spent years trying to simply resolve the issue of golfers taking INTENTIONAL golf shots at
our properties. Signs have been posted on the fences and golf carts. Los Verdes designated a Marshall
to conduct extra patrol to take special interest in this area. We’ve called various times when an event
occurs to an unanswered phone at the golf course.
It has taken the last two and a half years of investigation by the City and the County to understand and
agree that this is a SAFETY and preservation of property issue. City representatives have been on-site
and personally seen and collected errant golf balls from our properties (yards, street, hillsides).
Since the citizens who chose to golf at Los Verdes also chose to behave poorly in spite of reasonable
signage and warnings, we must now protect ourselves with netting. Please understand the years of
time, alternative strategies and continued damage that occurred before this became the final solution.
The netting is the last resort for a final solution to eliminating a public safety problem in our
neighborhood.
Regards,
La Cresta Pointe HOA
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Subject:FW: I support the city position of opposition to Assembly Bill (AB) No. 309
From: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 1:13 PM
To: Gary Palmer <GARY@getmymail.org>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: I support the city position of opposition to Assembly Bill (AB) No. 309
Hi Gary,
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts regarding tonight’s agenda item on AB 309.
The City Council is in receipt of your email and it will be provided to the Council as late correspondence.
Ara
From: Gary Palmer <GARY@getmymail.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 12:04 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: I support the city position of opposition to Assembly Bill (AB) No. 309
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I want to register my support for the city council to oppose AB No. 309 the Social Housing Act and accept the staff
recommendation.
I agree with the city staff analysis that 309 would remove local control over land use. One of the cornerstones of life in
RPV is the open space and local land use control.
Thank you,
Gary Palmer ‐ Resident
Rue Langlois
I receive many notices from the city and request that I not be added to additional email
lists, including council member personal lists.
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Subject:FW: August 15, 2023 Council meeting. Agenda Item #3 Portuguese Bend landslide
‐‐‐‐‐Original Message‐‐‐‐‐
From: Noel Park <noelparkone@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:33 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Ramzi Awwad <rawwad@rpvca.gov>
Subject: August 15, 2023 Council meeƟng. Agenda Item #3 Portuguese Bend landslide
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safe!!!.
I have carefully reviewed this agenda item and the accompanying staff report. I also aƩended the recent stake holder
meeƟng at City Hall. I had long planned to aƩend your August 15 Council meeƟng as I believe that face to face
interacƟon is the most effecƟve. Alas, health issues have taken a hand and I will be unable to aƩend. I hope that this
message will be the next best thing.
There have been some reports that certain City officials believe that “environmentalists” are trying to block the project.
In my personal experience, nothing could be further from the truth. i have read a number of the comment leƩers and
spoken to many of the “environmentalists” involved and no on has said to me that the project should not be done. There
is deep concern about negaƟve impacts on protected Coast Sage Scrub (CSS) habitat and the wildlife that relies on it.
There is deep concern about several of the proposed construcƟon details which many believe could lead to potenƟal
failures of the project. CiƟzens want these issues addressed before the project moves forward.
At a previous Council meeƟng I strongly urged Council members to read all of the submiƩed comment leƩers for
themselves. In that way you will get a sense of the hearƞelt concerns that ciƟzens have worked so hard to express. I have
no doubt that you will see many relevant and valuable suggesƟons. You may be very likely to instruct your staff to study
these issues as part of due diligence to try to avoid negaƟve project outcomes.
At the recent stakeholder meeƟng, Councilman Bradley, Councilman Cruikshank, Mr. Mihranian and Mr.Awwad all
menƟoned that the Council had directed that engagement with the stakeholders should conƟnue as the process of
answering the quesƟons raised in comment leƩers proceeds. This was very encouraging as I have said over and over that
such an interacƟve process stands an excellent chance of achieving a compromise consensus which will allow the project
to proceed smoothly. It was parƟcularly encouraging that staff intended a robust series of meeƟngs with the Palos
Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy staff to work on habitat issues. As you know, I have been strongly advocaƟng for this
from the beginning.
It was encouraging to see the comment about the approval of the overall EIR not prevenƟng staging of various
components of the project. This could answer a lot of the comments about the staging of the hydraugers versus the
surface drainage features. And other issues as well.
John Speilman, a member of the IMAC, is also a Board member of our HOA. At our last meeƟng he reported to us on a
meeƟng with the proposed lead engineer for the project design effort you are considering Tuesday. John found him to be
a very pracƟcal and work wise engineer. He seemed very open to the idea of project phasing to achieve the best results.
So that is encouraging as well.
Finally, I want to comment on one aspect of the staff report which I find extremely troubling and personally offensive.
That is the discussion of the amount of CSS habitat which the City is allowed to destroy, apparently without miƟgaƟon,
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under the NCCP. As I said at the recent meeƟng’ “take” is a four leƩer word to me. We constantly brag about our “semi
rural paradise” and the 1500+ acres of open space we have preserved. As such, we have a duty to be good stewards and
protect that space. In addiƟon to the Nature Preserve, I refer to any property owned by the City between the Preserve
boundary and the ocean which contains much mature CSS and other even rarer plants. To bulldoze many acres of this
habitat and not replant it on a robust enough basis to assure restoraƟon is a sin in my opinion. It is the worst possible
way to save money. Please do not allow this to happen.
Again, I have come to believe that, if we conƟnue on a construcƟve and interacƟve path, we can make CEQA history. A
consensus, compromise driven, EIR would avoid ugly community confrontaƟon and be something of which we could all
be very proud for years to come.
Sincerely,
Noel Park
6715 El Rodeo Road
Rancho Palos Verdes CA 90275
562‐413‐5157
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Subject:FW: Landslide emergency repairs/maintenance
From: Noel Park <noelparkone@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 4:03 PM
To: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Ramzi Awwad <rawwad@rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Landslide emergency repairs/maintenance
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Thank you Ara for your courtesy, as always. I truly believe that everyone’s hope is that we can work together for a
successful project
Best regards to all,
Noel Park
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:43 PM, Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Noel,
Thank you for taking the time to provide the City Council with your thoughts on tonight’s agenda item
related to the Portuguese Bend Landslide Remediation project. It’s greatly appreciated and your
suggestions will be considered.
Both your emails are part of the record and will be provided to the City Council.
Ara
Ara Michael Mihranian
City Manager
___________________________________
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
310-544-5202 (telephone)
310-544-5293 (fax)
aram@rpvca.gov
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From: Noel Park <noelparkone@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 2:10:46 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Ramzi Awwad <rawwad@rpvca.gov>; Ron
Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Landslide emergency repairs/maintenance
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the content is safe!!!.
I want to share a few additional thoughts to my letter about the August 15 agenda item. I realize that
this may be too late for late correspondence, but I hope that you may consider these suggestions as you
plan next steps.
I would support any and all steps that could possibly be justified as maintenance and/or emergency
repairs in advance of the completion of the larger project. As long as there was a commitment to
properly replace any CSS habitat impacted by such activities, I am confident that the majority of the
community would agree.
We continue to hear alarming reports about possible El Niño or La Niña conditions next year which may
bring about additional excessive rainfall. Coupled with the alarming reports of accelerating land
movement in the current staff report, it would seem obvious that we need to take all justifiable steps to
ameliorate the situation immediately as opposed to letting business as usual continue until the overall
project is completed.
Ideas which have been suggested include:
1). Repair or replace the existing culvert under Burma Road adjacent to the “headscarp”. This blockage
diverts water onto the “headscarp” and thence into the dreaded fissures thereupon.
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2). Fill in the fissures with local soil. Mr. Mihranian has said that the City is doing this already, but that
new fissures constantly appear and it is very expensive. This is no doubt true, but we need to face the
necessity that this will need to be resolutely pursued into the future. Many commenters on the DEIR
correctly pointed out that, even if the overall project is very successful, there will be a considerable
period of substantial ground movement while the dewatering efforts take full effect. In addition to new
fissures, it seems highly unlikely that that the proposed drainage swales and retention basin will be able
to tolerate such movement without serious disruption, particularly to the geotextile linings. For these
reasons, we must have a ROBUST maintenance budget, at least for the first few years. The failure of the
previous massive control project was at least partially caused by the totally irresponsible lack of
maintenance of the surface drainage system. We cannot allow that to happen again.
3) If a seasonal pond is, as has often been reported, to form at the “sandbox” upstream of the PVDS
embankment, provision should be made to establish a seasonal (rental?) pump capability to prevent it
from seeping into the groundwater. The water could be pumped up to the culvert under PVDS via fire
hose or PVC pipe. There is evidence that something similar has been done before, possibly for effluent
from dewatering wells. There is a lot of PVC pipe in evidence. Maybe some of it could be reused.
4). It has been suggested that the City may retain existing entitlements to install dewatering wells. Even
interim dewatering wells would have to help. It might be expensive, but desperate times call for
desperate measures. If entitlements are needed, it might be possible to expedite them on an emergency
basis. Surely, every public agency in the state must be aware of this problem.
It has been suggested that such entitlements might be stretched to include some hydraugers, under the
guise of “advanced technology dewatering wells”, or some such. I guess that they actually are when you
think about It. This could also have the valuable effect of creating the “proof of concept” installation
that many members of the public and the original engineers and geologists have called for. Always
remembering that damaged CSS must eventually be properly replaced.
These are just a few suggestions from a simple former engineer/construction manager. I am confident
that practicing engineers, with up to date technology, could come up with many more
emergency/temporary fixes, if they were given the direction that we need to take all feasible
precautions in the meantime. If we really believe that we could actually lose PVDS and the sewer
system, it would seem to be our duty to do so.
If three is anything I can do to help you to facilitate such measures, I am at your service. If I can speak at
Council meetings or committees in support, speak to CHOA or other homeowner groups, write to the
press, or anything else that comes to your minds, just let me know.
Noel Park
6715 El Rodeo Road
Rancho Palos Verdes CA 90275
562‐413‐5147
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Subject:Late Correspondence for Regular Business Agenda Item 6 on ACA 10
Attachments:06.05.2023 ACA 10 (Haney) Fact Sheet.pdf
From: Shaunna Hunter <shunter@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 12:10 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Elena Gerli <egerli@awattorneys.com>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>;
William Wynder <wwynder@awattorneys.com>
Subject: Late Correspondence for Regular Business Agenda Item 6 on ACA 10
Honorable Mayor and City Councilmembers,
In advance of tonight’s Regular Business Agenda Item No. 6 on ACA 10, attached is a recent communication received
from the city's lobbyist, RPPG, containing information regarding ACA 10, as provided by Assemblymember Matt Haney
(author of the constitutional amendment) for the Council’s consideration. This information sheet presents an overview
of the bill, encompassing its proposed language, background, problem statement, and proposed solutions as envisioned
by Asm. Haney.
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required to take steps to recognize adequate housing as a right and not a privilege only available to the few." As
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substantive action in fully acknowledging this right.
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that requiring cities to provide housing as a right may be interpreted as potentially obligated local jurisdictions to
actually build, at a minimum, the housing required by RHNA. As previously discussed by the City Council, local
jurisdictions are not in the position to be home builders and cannot guarantee that developers will build homes
pursuant to a city’s RHNA.
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DATE: AUGUST 14, 2023
SUBJECT: ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
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3 Emails from: Noel Park; Mickey Rodich
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Subject:FW: Landslide emergency repairs/maintenance
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From: Noel Park <noelparkone@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 2:11 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Ramzi Awwad <rawwad@rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo
<RonD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Landslide emergency repairs/maintenance
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I want to share a few addiƟonal thoughts to my leƩer about the August 15 agenda item. I realize that this may be too late
for late correspondence, but I hope that you may consider these suggesƟons as you plan next steps.
I would support any and all steps that could possibly be jusƟfied as maintenance and/or emergency repairs in advance of
the compleƟon of the larger project. As long as there was a commitment to properly replace any CSS habitat impacted by
such acƟviƟes, I am confident that the majority of the community would agree.
We conƟnue to hear alarming reports about possible El Niño or La Niña condiƟons next year which may bring about
addiƟonal excessive rainfall. Coupled with the alarming reports of acceleraƟng land movement in the current staff
report, it would seem obvious that we need to take all jusƟfiable steps to ameliorate the situaƟon immediately as
opposed to leƫng business as usual conƟnue unƟl the overall project is completed.
Ideas which have been suggested include:
1). Repair or replace the exisƟng culvert under Burma Road adjacent to the “headscarp”. This blockage diverts water
onto the “headscarp” and thence into the dreaded fissures thereupon.
2). Fill in the fissures with local soil. Mr. Mihranian has said that the City is doing this already, but that new fissures
constantly appear and it is very expensive. This is no doubt true, but we need to face the necessity that this will need to
be resolutely pursued into the future. Many commenters on the DEIR correctly pointed out that, even if the overall
project is very successful, there will be a considerable period of substanƟal ground movement while the dewatering
efforts take full effect. In addiƟon to new fissures, it seems highly unlikely that that the proposed drainage swales and
retenƟon basin will be able to tolerate such movement without serious disrupƟon, parƟcularly to the geotexƟle linings.
For these reasons, we must have a ROBUST maintenance budget, at least for the first few years. The failure of the
previous massive control project was at least parƟally caused by the totally irresponsible lack of maintenance of the
surface drainage system. We cannot allow that to happen again.
3)If a seasonal pond is, as has oŌen been reported, to form at the “sandbox” upstream of the PVDS embankment,
provision should be made to establish a seasonal (rental?) pump capability to prevent it from seeping into the
groundwater. The water could be pumped up to the culvert under PVDS via fire hose or PVC pipe. There is evidence that
something similar has been done before, possibly for effluent from dewatering wells. There is a lot of PVC pipe in
evidence. Maybe some of it could be reused.
4). It has been suggested that the City may retain exisƟng enƟtlements to install dewatering wells. Even interim
dewatering wells would have to help. It might be expensive, but desperate Ɵmes call for desperate measures. If
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enƟtlements are needed, it might be possible to expedite them on an emergency basis. Surely, every public agency in the
state must be aware of this problem.
It has been suggested that such enƟtlements might be stretched to include some hydraugers, under the guise of
“advanced technology dewatering wells”, or some such. I guess that they actually are when you think about It. This
could also have the valuable effect of creaƟng the “proof of concept” installaƟon that many members of the public and
the original engineers and geologists have called for. Always remembering that damaged CSS must eventually be
properly replaced.
These are just a few suggesƟons from a simple former engineer/construcƟon manager. I am confident that pracƟcing
engineers, with up to date technology, could come up with many more emergency/temporary fixes, if they were given
the direcƟon that we need to take all feasible precauƟons in the meanƟme. If we really believe that we could actually
lose PVDS and the sewer system, it would seem to be our duty to do so.
If three is anything I can do to help you to facilitate such measures, I am at your service. If I can speak at Council
meeƟngs or commiƩees in support, speak to CHOA or other homeowner groups, write to the press, or anything else that
comes to your minds, just let me know.
Noel Park
6715 El Rodeo Road
Rancho Palos Verdes CA 90275
562‐413‐5147
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Subject: Fwd: Agenda Item# 3 - Landslide Complex Monitoring Program
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I am happy to see that we are starting to move ahead with the
Landslide Complex Monitoring Program, however I find the project
cost very expensive. The Staff Report asks for $409,878 in Fiscal Year
2023-24 and $850,878 over 3 fiscal years from the CIP. This seems to
be a lot of money for testing 2 to 4 times per year as shown on
page 4 in the Agenda Report.
What the Portuguese Bend Landslide (PBL) needs is continual
monitoring by a geotechnical engineer that is experienced in
landslides. A few years ago an RPV resident (Gene Dewey) had 2 of
his friends, the Director of The Geotechnical Center of Excellence and
a Professor from the University of Arizona, who have had first hand
experience with the largest landslide in the United States, visit him
for 2 days and walked the PBL area to see what was
happening. They were doing it as a favor to their friend and not in an
official capacity representing the University of Arizona. After
reviewing the Landslide they held a meeting with our Mayor and our
City Manager Ara to summarize their observations. They
recommended 2 companies that do geotechnical work for large open
pit mines, that closely compare to our landslide area and would be a
good fit for PBL, but they were never invited to bid on the project.
They also recommended that RPV hire a full time geotechnical
engineer to provide benefit to the project, continuity and oversight
and daily monitoring and analyzing the collected data. Along with
that they recommend thay RPV retain a qualified consulting company
as a resource, 2 or 3 times a year, to analyse the data and verify the
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progressive amount of movement. This would give us the ability to
continually monitor the PBL and determine the movements based on
amounts of rainwater as well as groundwater from up above the
slide. There are numerous sattelite tracking systems as well as ground
based systems that can be used as data collection points.
If you have been driving on PVDS lately, you can see that there
has been significant land movement in the Abalone Cove landslide,
near Wayfarers Chapel. That probably has happened because of a
buildup of water in that slide. From what I have seen in the staff
report is that water was not being pumped from the wells for some
long period of time. Since the Abalone Cove landslide has started to
move again, this new Monitoring Program
should also include Abalone Cove as well.
I wonder if Hout Engineering have a background in monitoring
large earth movement landslides or do they hire sub contract with a
geotechnical consulting company experienced in open pit mines? Sub
contracting will increase the contract costs.
I feel that the $850,878 staff recommendation is very high and will
lead to cost extensions.
Attached please find the correspondences that are referenced
above.
A) May 25, 2021
R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
May
25, 2021, 10:37 AM
to Ken, Ara, Bartbara, Bradley, Chad, me, Kit
Ken,
So sorry you were unable to make the luncheon on May 18, 2021 when the gentlemen from the U of AZ
Geochemical Center of Excellence reviewed their observations of a two day visit to portions of the
PB Landslide. During the meeting Council member Barbara Ferraro suggested that Ara Mihranian should
hear their comments. He was called and he came to the session. I have attached my notes from this
discussion.
Please don’t hesitate to call me if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Gene Dewey
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B) July 28, 2012 email re: Geotechnical Engineer as a permanent
staff employee from Brad Ross
PhD,PE of the University of Arizona
Ross, Bradley Jay - (bjr) <bjr@arizona.edu>
Wed, Jul 28,
2021,
10:30 PM
to Ara, Gene, Eric, John, David, Barbara, Ken, me, Ramzi, Chad
Hi Ara,
As before, I can talk about what I would do in your situation as a friend of Gene but not in an official capacity as a
representative of the University of Arizona.
In my view you have two different issues that may have different solutions. The first issue is planning, procuring
equipment and setting up the system. The second issue is operating that system.
Considering your timing and the relative difficulty in hiring experienced geotechnical engineers that understand
large scale slides, hiring a consulting firm to plan, procure and set up a monitoring system is a good
idea. Monitoring for a slide as large Portuguese Bend really requires someone or a company with a background in
monitoring of large earth movement, instead of a geotechnical company that focuses on buildings and
structures. Therefore someone or a company that does geotechnical work for large open pit mines would be a
good choice. A couple companies to consider are Golder and CNI. Golder is a large company that was just bought
by WSP. They have several offices (some in California), but you will want to make sure that people they would
have do the work are familiar with slope monitoring in open pit mines.
The second firm is CNI out of Tucson. They are smaller but their primary business is mining geotechnical
issues. There are other companies like SRK that would do a good job, but I have not used them before. That
doesn’t mean they would not do a good job for you. Chad could have more recommendations.
The key to working with the consulting companies is to have a good scope of work. That is not as easy as it may
sound and you could consider using one of the consulting companies to help build the scope. Ultimately you are
going to need a plan that includes the following:
• Clear set of goals for the monitoring (surface vs sub surface, continuous vs intermittent, autonomous vs
manual, terrestrial vs satellite – may be combinations of each)
• Type of monitoring required to meet the goals
• Manpower requirements to operate the monitoring system
• Operating procedures
• Target, action, and response plan should movement become critical
• Capital cost (including bids for equipment and installation)
• Operating cost (comparison of options)
• Manpower requirement
Sorry if that seems like a lot up front, but if you do a good job of planning it will help ensure that whatever you
come up with is effective. The worst thing you can do is end up with a system that does not meet your needs
(even if it might be less expensive than other options).
When it comes to operations my preference is normally to have employees do that work, but it can work either
way. Consulting companies typically charge more per hour and employees usually have more ownership in
making sure it is working correctly. Even if you hire, you should continue to retain the consulting company as a
resource, but day to day work of looking at data and making sure things are working is easier for someone that
lives nearby and hopefully part of the community. You may also want a small group of experts to do reviews of
the system once or twice a year. Once you start monitoring, hopefully it will be rather quiet, but that means
people can get complacent so independent reviews help to make sure problems are not creeping in. If the slide is
moving faster you will need the independent group’s help with deciding what should be done.
I am sure much if this is what you would have done anyway. Hopefully some of it is useful.
Regards,
Brad
Brad Ross, PhD, PE
Professor of Practice
Director, Geotechnical Center of Excellence
Lowell Institute for Mineral Resources
University of Arizona
1235 E. James E. Rogers Way
PO Box 210012
Room 215
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Email: bjr@arizona.edu
Phone: 520-827-9649
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<david.bradley@rpvca.gov>; Barbara Ferraro <barbara.ferraro@rpvca.gov>; Ken Dyda <Ken.Dyda@rpvca.gov>;
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Hi Gene,
I truly appreciate your suggestions and expressed interest in the Portuguese Bend Landslide.
We all share your concerns, as well as the concerns of Peninsula residents, on monitoring the landslide and
managing the City's expenditures on it.
Councilman Dyda has made it acutely clear to us that PVDS is sitting on wet soil and has the potential to result in a
major regional and environmental catastrophe.
The City is working hard on advancing the Portuguese Bend Landslide Remediation project, as well as seeking
funding assistance from County, State and Federal agencies.
That is the reason why the City sent letters out to our representatives last week urging their assistance and
commitment to remediate the landslide.
The timing seemed most appropriate with the unfortunate sewage spill that occurred in the Santa Monica Bay
from the Hyperion Reclamation facility, that could potentially occur if PVDS gives way.
I gained a lot from our meeting with the geotechnical engineers from the University of Arizona.
Many of their observations align with the City's observations, including monitoring the movement.
As I see it, the City needs more than a geotechnical engineer when it comes to the landslide.
It needs a team of engineering experts that specialize in landslides.
Hiring a full time geotechnical engineer is not going to meet our needs. However, a geotechnical firm can.
A firm can provide a variety of resources the City can rely on to manage the landslide, including a surveyor,
geologists, engineers, etc.
Collectively, hiring a firm would likely be most cost effective for our City.
The City's Public Works Department is in the process of publishing a request for proposals for this specialized
service with the intent to have a firm onboard by fall.
We are doing our best to move this process along expeditiously knowing the potential outcome.
If Brad and Chad have suggestion on such firms that provide these full services, please let me know and I will
make sure we contact them (they are copied on this email).
The community's support is needed for the Portuguese Bend Landslide Remediation project, and I hope we can
continue working together on this very important subject and welcome your input.
Ara
p.s. I was not aware of a bathroom repair project at Ladera Linda, but will certainly look into it.
Ara Michael Mihranian
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Ara,
I would like to suggest that you find a route to fill the position of Geotechnical Engineer to be the Project
Manager for the Portuguese Bend Slide mitigation project now as opposed to the next budget cycle in July of
2022.
The use of a consultant for this function will certainly cost more than a permanent employee. A consultant should
be retained to assist this individual and the city of RPV on an ongoing basis, to help outline action plans, to
develop and implement monitoring programs, to study the availability of federal and state funds, etc. This was
suggested by the University of Arizona geotechnical experts in May during their visit to the PB Slide.
The slide has be around for a long time and the city and county spend a lot of money dealing with the movement.
This is major concern of residents on the Peninsula. A individual whose sole responsibility is monitoring and
managing the slide remediation is a position that should have been filled years ago. Now is the time to remedy
that mistake. At the start of this new mitigation project, not a year from now.
When I saw the new urinals in the Ladera Linda men’s room the other day, I wondered who in the city does the
cost analysis on such stupid projects? Is this the Public Works department? Something that should have been
done years ago, gets done a few months before the place is scheduled to be demolished. How does this make
sense while not being able to fill a critical position now, not make sense. Please reconsider this decision.
When I think back to the $ 20 mm dollars that was spent on the San Ramon Canyon pipe line that was not
necessary. If the inlet at 25 th St had been modified and replaced, by the city and county of LA before the city of
RPV spent the money for the pipe line as opposed to after the pipe line was completed, this expenditure would
not have been made. Several citizens with engineering experience were involved in meeting with Ron Dragoo,
showing him drawings obtained from the city of San Pedro of the inadequate inlet to the 40" storm drain on 25th
St. Our suggestions fell on deaf ears with the city of RPV maintaining that the City and County of LA were
uncooperative, when in fact they were designing the mitigation measures all along. Think of how far the $ 10 mm
portion of RPV city funds would have gone toward the salary for a geotechnical engineer.
Thanks,
Gene Dewey
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May 17, 18 2021
Portuguese Bend Slide Visit
Notes by Gene Dewey that were taken during a discussion on May 18, 2021 of a field visit to portions of the
Portuguese Bend Landslide by, Bradley Ross, Chad Williams and Gene Dewey
In attendance; Bradley Ross, Chad Williams, Gene Dewey, Mickey Rodich, Kit Ruona, City Council member
Barbara Ferraro and RPV City Manager Ara Mihranian
Brad Ross is a Ph.D Professor of Practice at the U of AZ Mining and Geological Engineering Department and
Director of the Geotechnical Center of Excellence. Chad Williams is a Ph.D candidate who is the Assistant Director
of the Geotechnical Center of Excellence. They both have extensive mining experience and were present at the
time of the largest landslide in the mining industry of some 140 mm tons. They started the Geotechnical Center of
Excellence as a result of what was learned from the Manefay landslide in 2013.
Bingham Canyon’s Manefay Landslides and the Future of the ...
geology.utah.gov › map-pub › survey-notes
On April 10, 2013, two massive landslides carried about 145 million tons of waste rock into the bottom of the open
pit at Bingham Canyon, the largest copper mine in the U.S. These are the largest mining-induced landslides in
history.
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The Manefay landslide at the Bingham Canyon open-pit copper ...
The Manefay landslide at the Bingham Canyon open-pit copper mine on April 11, 2013. Also notable are the two
different slides—the earlier light gray slide of pyritized Bingham Mine Formation quartz sandstones overlain by the
yellow-brown, oxidized dump material which slid about 1.5 hours later.
Brad and Chad agreed to make a visit to the PB Slide as a favor to Gene Dewey.
After a very cursory two-day review of the slide on the ground which included a walk along the moving portions of
PVDS and into a portion of the slide on the south side of the roadway followed by a visit to the Paseo Del Mar slide,
Sunken City, San Ramon Canyon and 18 hole slide, they walked the east side of the Portuguese Bend slide along
the Rim Trail. The following morning was occupied walking a portion of the toe of the slide from the PBBC to
Inspiration Point and up to the archery range from the shoreline trail.
They reviewed their visit and comments with RPV Council member Barbara Ferraro later that morning. She
suggested they invite City Manager Ara Mihranian to hear their comments. Following that session the balance of
the day was spent walking the mid portion of the slide north of the deep dip in PVDS roadway.
They pointed out that they were not here as consultants or representatives of the University of Arizona, but as
friends of Gene.
They noted that the outer perimeter of the slide had indications of moving toward the middle. As it moves toward
the ocean the toe is eroded away by the tide and wave action. The lower part is moving faster than the upper
portion of the slide. The sides of the slide are moving to the center to fill in the void and creating several natural
dams in an east west orientation. The vegetation inside the slide mass is extensive. The fissures that are visible
disappear into the mass of vegetation. It would be nearly impossible to find them all and get equipment to them
without removing most if not all of the vegetation. If the fissures were filled with a mixture of fly ash and cement
it would set up similar to concrete. The slide movement will continue to open new fissures, reducing the fly ash’s
effectiveness to limit infiltration. The fly ash and cement could create a less pervious dam effect causing more
water to accumulate in the aquifer.
If this were a mining operation that they were managing they wouldn’t fill the fissures with a fly ash and cement
mixture. They have no problem with filling the fissures with dirt where accessible. This would maintain a similar
permeability as the surround material and not dam water internal to the slide mass.
Surface drainage collection is a good step where it can be done in such a manner that it is maintained.
Extensive daily monitoring of the slide is very important to understand just what is moving and how fast it is
moving and if it is accelerating a sign that the failure is moving towards progressive failure. This needs to be done
also to measure the effectiveness of any remediation efforts and provide early warning of a potential catastrophic
failure.
Horizontal drains could be effective and perhaps the place to start after a monitoring and management system is
put in place.
A geotechnical engineer on the staff and a geotechnical contractor employed who could provide benefit to the
project, continuity, and oversight.
There are several systems available for monitoring the slide which could be evaluated.
• Continuous GPS units – Can measure 3D displacement on an hour by bour basis. Units can be self-
contained on run on small batteries for years.
• Robotic theodolite/Prism system (automatically measures movement every few minutes and alerts if
thresholds are meet that indicates a problem). Measures individual points and can alarm if the slide is
accelerating.
• Extensometers – relatively simple systems to measure if cracks are getting wider. Should be set up to
alarm if movements start to accelerate.
• InSAR – Satellite-based radar that can be used to measure movement over large areas like the PB Slide.
Contractors can provide a service but only shows the movement every 11 – 22 days (depending on the
satellites used).
• Ground based radar – continuously measures movement over a large portion of the slide area. Can send
out alarms if slide starts to accelerate.
• TDR Cable - Time-domain reflectometer (used in drill holes to determine where movement is occurring
underground.
President Trump Signs “National Landslide Preparedness Act ...
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January 6, 2021- Legislation to establish a National Landslide Hazards Reduction Program in the U.S. Geological
Survey (USGS) to better identify and understand landslide risks, protect communities, save lives and property, and
improve emergency preparedness became law Tuesday when President Trump signed H.R. 8810, the National
Landslide Preparedness Act.
• Expands early warning systems. The bill expands existing early warning systems for post-wildfire
landslides in recently burned areas across the United States. It also requires procedures to be developed
for federal monitoring of storm water drainage in areas with a high risk of landslides, in coordination with
state, local, and tribal governments.
• Creates a new federal program focused specifically on landsl ide hazards. The bill would establish a
National Landslides Hazard Reduction program through the United States Geological Survey (USGS), which
would identify risks and hazards from landslides to protect at-risk communities and improve
communication and emergency preparedness.
• Develops new maps to help communities prepare for landslide risk . The bill would direct the USGS to
implement a 3D Elevation Program to increase data collection and landslide threat identification across
the country. Enhanced elevation data, such as LIDAR, is critical for numerous reasons—to help
communities plan for and respond to natural hazards; to update the nation’s topographical maps; and to
inform a myriad of uses including public safety, national security, planning, infrastructu re, transportation,
agriculture, and natural resource management.
• Authorizes new landslide-related grant programs. The bill authorizes new programs to provide funding to
state, territorial, local, and tribal governments for landslide research, mapping, ass essment, and data
collection.
• Establishes committees to better deal with landslide risks. The bill establishes an advisory committee on
landslides and creates an interagency committee to coordinate better landslide responses from the
multiple government agencies with jurisdiction.
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