CC SR 20221206 01 - Ladera Linda Lower Tier Vegetation
CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: 12/06/2022
AGENDA REPORT AGENDA HEADING: Regular Business
AGENDA TITLE:
Consideration and possible action to determine the limits of removal of the existing fence
and vegetation on the ocean-facing side of the Ladera Linda Community Park.
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
(1) Review staff’s recommended limits of removal of existing fencing and vegetation
on the ocean-facing side of the Ladera Linda Community Park in response to
neighbors’ requests;
(2) If deemed acceptable, direct staff to make the following revisions to the Ladera
Linda Community Park plans:
a. Lower the existing fence and trim the plantings along the entire ocean-facing
side of the park to a height of 42 inches from the finished grade, and fill in any
gaps in vegetation along the fence with new similar plants;
b. Plant a vine or hedge that will grow up to 42 inches in height along the park
facing side of the existing ocean-facing fence for screening purposes;
c. Plant a barrier of coastal sage scrub and/or other native plants within the entire
landscape setback zone between the top of slope and walking paths , except
where the walking path approaches the stairway;
d. Install a context-sensitive railing, to be selected by Staff, at a height ranging
between 36- and 42- inches adjacent to the walking paths along the entire
ocean-facing side of the park; and,
e. Eliminate the Council-approved 6-foot chain link fence along the slope of the
ocean-facing side of the park and retain the existing vegetation on the slope.
(3) Direct staff to monitor the effectiveness of the plan revisions for City Council review
one year after the park grounds and building are opened to the public to determine
if further revisions are warranted.
FISCAL IMPACT: The fiscal impact of the recommended action is being analyzed , and
a separate memorandum on the cost will be transmitted to the City Council as late
correspondence by December 5, 2022.
Amount Budgeted: $18,770,084
Additional Appropriation: $0
Account Number(s):
330-400-8405-XXXX ($13,111,229)
(CIP Fund – Ladera Linda/various accounts
333-400-8405-XXXX ($3,953,000)
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(ARPA Funding – Ladera Linda/various accounts)
334-400-8405-XXXX ($1,705,855)
(Quimby Fund – Ladera Linda/various accounts)
ORIGINATED BY: James O'Neill, Project Manager
Lincoln Lo, PE, Public Works Deputy Director
REVIEWED BY: Ramzi Awwad, Public Works Director
APPROVED BY: Ara Mihranian, AICP, City Manager
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
A. Ladera Linda Community Park Alternate Fencing Proposal from Ladera
Linda Homeowners Association and Seaview Residents Association (page
A-1)
B. Correspondence from Ladera Linda and Seaview residents (page B-1)
C. November 15, 2022 City Council Staff Report
D. October 19, 2021 City Council Staff Report
E. March 1, 2022 City Council Staff Report
BACKGROUND:
On October 19, 2021, the City Council approved the updated Ladera Linda Community
Park Landscape, Lighting, Safety and Security Plans, and received and filed the project
cost estimate. In response to neighbors’ concerns about how the existing foliage provides
a buffer between the park and neighborhood, the City Council, in its motion, also directed
Staff to keep the existing foliage along the southeast portion of the property (which will be
referred to in this report as the “lower tier”), then during the framing of the community
building, conduct a view assessment to ensure Catalina Island views from the building
would not be blocked. Staff was directed to return to the City Council with a determination
of the extent of recommended foliage trimming.
On November 15, 2022, the City Council was initially scheduled to consider the limits of
removal of the existing fence and vegetation on the ocean -facing side of the lower tier of
Ladera Linda Community Park (Attachment C). Staff intended to incorporate input from
both the Ladera Linda and Seaview communities into the November 15, 2022 staff report.
However, Staff inadvertently reached out to an outdated contact at the Seaview Residents
Association and did not receive any input from them prior to publishing the staff report.
Staff was subsequently alerted to this inadvertent oversight by the Seaview community.
To allow sufficient time for the Seaview community to provide input, the City Council
continued this item to its December 6, 2022 meeting.
Since November 15, Staff has utilized the additional time to conduct guided site visits of
the subject area of Ladera Linda Community Park to neighbors from both the Ladera
Linda and the Seaview communities, as well as incoming Councilmember Seo. All current
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Councilmembers had previously attended guided site visits with Staff (with no more than
two Councilmembers visiting the site at any one time).
This evening, the Council is being asked to consider Staff’s recommendations regarding
the removal of existing fencing and vegetation not only along the lower tier, but as well
as the middle and upper tiers, in response to the neighbors’ requests.
DISCUSSION:
At this time, the rough grading of the site and the framing of the building are substantially
complete. Views from the site are observed in a southerly direction and consist of views
of Catalina Island and the Pacific Ocean. Staff conducted a view assessment from the
location of the community building, which is situated in the middle tier of the site. More
specifically, Staff observed views from the southwest side of the building and determined
the view of Catalina Island is not impaired by the existing vegetation on the lower tier.
Views are not impaired because the pad of the community building is approximately 6
feet higher in elevation than the lower tier of the site. A person of average height would
have a sightline more than 5 feet higher than the top of the foliage on the lower tier. Exhibit
1 below shows the view from the south side of the building.
Exhibit 1: View from South Side of Ladera Linda Community Park Building
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As the view of the park is further assessed from the lower tier park area, it is apparent
that the user experience will be fundamentally different depending on whether the existing
vegetation and fence along the ocean-facing side of the lower tier remains at its current
height as shown in Exhibit 2 below.
Exhibit 2: View from Ocean-Facing Side of Lower Tier
In addition to the user experience, Staff considered input from the Ladera Linda and
Seaview communities. Since November 15, a total of 27 residents attended guided site
visits with Staff offered on various days to accommodate the schedules of residents.
Additionally, Staff obtained input via phone calls and emails (Attachment B). In summary,
residents overwhelmingly expressed the opinion that the ocean-facing side fencing and
vegetation should remain for the lower tier as well as for the middle and upper tiers.
Residents from the Seaview community expressed privacy, security, and noise concerns
with the removal of the fencing and vegetation from the top of the slope.
To address their concerns, the boards of the Ladera Linda Homeowners Association and
the Seaview Residents Association submitted a proposal for the City Council’s
consideration (Attachment A). This proposal includes the following:
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1) Keep (or replace) the existing fence and plants along the entire ocean-facing side
of the park, but lower both to a height of 48 inches and fill in any gaps in vegetation
with new, similar plants;
2) Install the planned plant barrier with a minimum width of 17 feet along the entire
ocean-facing side of the park;
3) Install a new fence at a height of 48 - or 42-inches, of a material and style to be
selected by Staff, on the park side of the plant barrier.
4) Eliminate the proposed 6-foot chain link fence along the slope of the ocean-facing
side of the park, keep the existing vegetation on the slope in place, and fill in any
bare spots with additional foliage.
Staff has reviewed the Ladera Linda Homeowners Association and the Seaview
Residents Association proposal and is in general agreement with their request. Thus, staff
recommends the City Council approve a variation of their proposal as follows:
1) Lower the existing fence and trim the plantings along the entire ocean-facing side
of the park to a height of 42 inches from the finished grade, and fill in any gaps in
vegetation along the fence with new similar plants;
2) Plant a vine or hedge that will grow up to 42 inches in height along the park facing
side of the existing ocean-facing fence for screening purposes;
3) Plant a barrier of coastal sage scrub and/or other native plants with in the entire
landscape setback zone between the top of slope and walking paths, except where
the walking path approaches the stairway;
4) Install a context-sensitive railing, to be selected by Staff, at a height ranging
between 36- and 42- inches adjacent to the walking paths along the entire ocean-
facing side of the park; and,
5) Eliminate the Council-approved 6-foot chain link fence along the slope of the
ocean-facing side of the park and retain the existing vegetation on the slope.
Exhibit 3 below illustrates the proposed revised site plan recommended by Staff.
Exhibit 3: Proposed Modification of Vegetation, Fencing, and Railing – Plan View
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Staff believes the above recommendations will address the privacy, security, and noise
concerns of neighboring communities as well as achieve the October 19, 2021 City
Council directive. Furthermore, if City Council finds the recommendations acceptable,
they may also direct staff to implement the recommendations and monitor their
effectiveness for review one year after the park grounds and building are opened to the
public to determine if further revisions are warranted.
The recommended changes, if approved by the City Council, may have a time and cost
impact on the project. The impact is currently being assessed and a separate
memorandum on the cost will be issued as late correspondence by December 5, 2022.
Finally, Staff recommends keeping the vegetation and fencing along the Forrestal Drive -
facing side of the lower tier to maintain privacy and a buffer between the neighborhood to
the east and the park ground, as shown in Exhibit 4 below.
Exhibit 4: Lower Tier Views Toward Forrestal Drive
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Project Construction Status
On March 1, 2022, the City Council approved the Ladera Linda Community Park Project
budget, approved the construction documents, and awarded a construction contract and
associated professional services agreements to proceed with construction of the project.
A Notice to Proceed with construction was issued on March 28, 2022 to the construction
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contractor, AMG. Since that time, construction has been progressing generally on
schedule, with an anticipated completion of August 2023. The following key construction
activities have been substantially completed:
• Rough grading of site
• Undergrounding of main line utilities and drainage pipes
• Building foundation, framing, and roof
• Storage shed foundation and framing
• Trash and equipment enclosure walls
• Light pole foundations
• Basketball court pad
Others are in progress, including:
• Site perimeter fencing
• Stepped terrace
• Accessibility ramp between upper-tier and middle tier
• Drainage swales
Project Budget Status Update
The project remains within the approved budget of $18,770,084. Below is a current cost
summary table for the project.
Councilmember Comments on Other Site Elements
In addition to providing input on the view assessment, Councilmembers have provided
input on the security and screening of the trash and equipment enclosure and the planting
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selection for the project’s consideration. For the trash and equipment enclosure,
Councilmembers commented that the current cream-colored stucco design of the
enclosure is too prominent. As a response, Staff proposes planting creeping fig vines
around the enclosure to better blend into the surround ing slope. Also, Councilmembers
expressed concern about the possibility of trespassing into the enclosure from the top.
As a response, Staff is working on options to provide higher walls and install barrier
vegetation in certain areas to the enclosure to reinforce security. Finally, based on Mayor
Pro Tem Ferraro’s input, Staff will be considering the inclusion of cherry trees as well as
birds of paradise plants in the landscaping palette.
Neighborhood Construction Concerns
In recent weeks, neighboring residents contacted the City to express concerns about
construction activities that have been negatively impacting their neighborhood. These
activities included some construction crew members arriving at the project site prior to 7
a.m., vehicles idling on Forrestal Drive while waiting to access the project site, lack of
traffic control in instances where large trucks with equipment are attempting to access the
project site or unload on Forrestal Drive, lack of traffic control when work has to take place
along the sidewalk of Forrestal Drive, and more frequent use of the lower gate than
expected. Additionally, concerns were expressed about dust control.
Staff, in conjunction with the contracted project management team, have repeatedly met
with and issued contract non-compliance notices to AMG to address these concerns.
These issues are arising because of the coordination and communication challenges
involving oversight of over 100 sub-contractors and suppliers. Regardless, AMG has
committed to taking steps to prevent the reoccurrence of these events and similar
situations as follows:
1) Adding a Senior Project Manager to increase coordination and communication
with sub-contractors and suppliers.
2) Posting a Site Access Coordinator near the intersection of Forrestal Drive and
Palos Verdes Drive South starting at 6:30 a.m. daily to prevent any crew
members and delivery trucks from driving up Forrestal Drive to the project site
before 7 a.m. From 7 a.m. to 6:30 p.m., the Site Access coordinator will be
stationed at the access gate to meet any large trucks on Forrestal Drive to
prohibit parking or staging on Forrestal Drive and to provide traffic control,
should it be needed to navigate the turns into the project site or work on utilities
along the sidewalk.
3) Advanced coordination with the City, including justification, prior to the use of
the lower gate into the site.
4) Diligent application of all required dust control.
5) Additional signs will be strategically located at Forrestal Drive and the project
site reinforcing the contract requirements while minimizing the proliferation of
signs in the neighborhood.
6) Cameras will be added at the main gate to monitor traffic pulling up at the
upper driveway.
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Fulfillment of these commitments will be observed on an ongoing basis, and should
noncompliance with contract provisions continue, the City will direct AMG to replace its
field management staff with staff that can comply with the construction contract.
Additional measures will be considered on an escalating basis, should the need arise.
CONCLUSION:
Staff recommends the City Council approve the plan revisions outlined in the Discussion
Section to provide for a user experience matching the improved site while also addressing
the privacy, security, and noise concerns of the Ladera Linda and Seaview residents.
ALTERNATIVES:
In addition to the Staff recommendation s, the following alternative actions are available
for the City Council’s consideration:
1. Direct Staff to leave the existing vegetation and fence in its current condition for
the lower, middle, and/or upper tiers.
2. Direct Staff to remove some portion of the existing vegetation and fence for the
lower, middle, and/or upper tiers, as defined by the City Council.
3. Take other action, as deemed appropriate.
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DATE:
November 27, 2022
TITLE
Seaview Residents Associations and Ladera Linda Homeowners Association
alternative fencing and landscaping proposal for the ocean-facing/southern
perimeter of the Ladera Linda Community Park (“Ladera Linda”).
Specifically, the entire southern perimeter of Ladera Linda, including the
upper, middle, and lower tiers.
BACKGROUND
A plan has been recommended by Staff for consideration by the RPV City
Council for the ocean-facing/southern perimeter of Ladera Linda. It is our
understanding that the fencing and vegetation on the east side of Ladera
Linda, along Forrestall Drive, is to remain. The agenda item before the
Council is to act upon Staff recommendations for the lower tier of Ladera
Linda.
The Staff recommendation is to remove the existing fence and foliage and
replace it with very low foliage with a relocation of the fence considerably
down the hillside slope above Dauntless Drive in the Seaview
neighborhood. This recommendation has only recently come to the
attention of the Seaview Residents Association. As acknowledged by City
Staff, communication errors did not previously provide this information to
the community residents for consideration and input. The leadership of
both Seaview and Ladera Linda have contacted their community members
and have received numerous concerns that the Staff recommendation will
significantly degrade the privacy and security of the Seaview community
and create significant noise issues. This proposal is in response to those
concerns and is designed to provide the RPV City Council with an
alternative that we believe will provide for: 1) Our communities’ privacy
and security; 2) Abatement of most noise issues.
3) Preserve unobstructed ocean and Catalina Island views from the new
facility and most of the renovated property; and 4) Provide security for the
new facility.
We ask the Council to consider the below actions which create a uniform
barrier along the entire ocean facing, southern border of Ladera Linda.
A-1
This proposal has been reviewed and endorsed by the boards of both the
Seaview Residents Association and the Ladera Linda Homeowners
Association, in consultation with numerous concerned members of both
Associations.
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION
1. Keep (or replace) the existing fence and plants (“shrubbery/hedge”), but
lower both the fence and shrubbery/hedge to 48 inches. The
shrubbery/hedge is currently against the south side of the existing
fence. Fill in any gaps in the shrubbery/hedge with new, similar plants.
This can be accomplished by keeping the existing concrete curb, cutting
the current fence poles, and adding new 48-inch chain link fencing; and
cutting the south side shrubbery/hedge from 72 inches to 48 inches
along the entire length of the property. The sharp drop-off below the
fence coupled with preservation and filling in of existing vegetation will
create a buffer higher than 4 ft. to prevent entry into the grounds.
2. Keep the planned minimum of 17 ft wide “plant barrier” along the entire
southern perimeter of Ladera Linda and
plant dense plants/shrubbery/hedges 48 inches high to act as a natural
barrier. This plant barrier is to be located on the north side of the
existing fence and is already part of the approved design, at various
widths along the entire southern perimeter.
3. Install a new 48 inch (or 42 inch) high fence (could be decorative
wrought iron, post and wire, chain link, wood, glass, or other material
selected by Staff) on the north side of the plant barrier (meaning it will
be inside Ladera Linda boundary proper). This proposal will create a
minimum 17 ft wide barrier along the entire southern perimeter of the
park, with fences on both north and south sides of the plant barrier.
4. Eliminate the proposed construction of a new 6-foot chain link fence
down and along the hillside/slope of the entire southern border of
Ladera Linda. Leave existing ground covering vegetation in place. It is
well established, drought tolerant and mature. Fill in any bare spots with
additional foliage.
A-2
Positive Outcomes of this Proposal - Security of/at Ladera Linda would be
maintained. Privacy would also increase for Seaview residents in that no
homes, even those immediately below Ladera Linda, would be able to be
seen with this configuration. Noise mitigation may in fact improve with
the additional plantings. Aesthetics would be enhanced. Safety would
also improve significantly in that this proposal will deter through pedestrian
traffic and keep the public from going to the top edge of the park and
possibly falling down the slope (as would be very possible in the pending
Staff recommended plan). Importantly, the outstanding Catalina and ocean
views for the public will be maintained.
FISCAL IMPACT
Without conducting a detailed analysis, we believe that savings may be
achieved by not needing to construct a new 6 foot fence line down the hill
and the reduction in the number of new plans and the water needed to
esatablish/grow them. There will also be less construction impact to the
stability of the existing hillside.
SUBMITTED BY
The Seaview Homeowners Association Board of Directors, several members
of the Ladera Linda Neighborhood Board of Directors and numerous
residents at large.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENT
Side-view schematic document detailing the above proposal.
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A-4
Input from residents regarding fence and vegetation along the
ocean side of the Ladera Linda Community Park site
B-1
From: Patricia Stenehjem <patsyanntoo@icloud.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 3:48 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Removal of the existing fence and vegetation on the ocean‐facing side of Ladera Linda
Community Park
Dear Mayor and City Council members, please consider installing at least a 4 foot wall or fence
(preferably planted similar to the Forrestal side) at the top of the slope on the ocean‐facing side of the
Community Center for safety reasons, and for privacy for the downslope residents in Seaview. I seem to
remember there were issues years ago at the AYSO field with children running down the slope there.
Also, having a fence might encourage some of the “sunset seekers” who are likely to flock to the park, to
view the sunset from the more westerly area near the Community Center building, thus providing more
privacy to those of us whose homes are directly east of the park.
Respectfully,
Patricia Stenehjem
From: Dan Rouimi <danrouimi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 10:42 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Consideration and possible action to determine the limits of removal of the existing fence and
vegetation on the ocean‐facing side of the lower tier of Ladera Linda Community Park.
Dear City council,
In response to the possible approval of the plan below I would like to submit my feedback as a resident
and HOA board member of Seaview.
AGENDA TITLE:
Consideration and possible action to determine the limits of removal of the existing fence and
vegetation on the ocean-facing side of the lower tier of Ladera Linda Community Park.
I am NOT in favor of doing anything to the existing fence and vegetation in place in the lower tier of
Ladera Linda Community Park. I have the following questions :
1. What type of environmental survey will be done to ensure there is no impact on the flora and fauna
that inhabit that area. There are endangered species of gnatcatchers in the area.
2. What type of geological survey will be done to limit further erosion on the hill.
3. Why remove existing vegetation that is drought proof and requires no irrigation.
4. How will this removal impact the privacy of residents in Sea View.
5. What are the impacts of park construction on the houses directly below the construction site. ( I have
already spoken to one community member who says they have experienced structural cracks in the
foundation of their home. We will inquire further to other residents who may have sustained similar
damage.
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6. Why does the staff still recommend removing the fence when residents from Ladera Linda are also
again lowering this fence.
7. The removal of this fence will decrease the privacy, increase noise and reduce the quality of life for
residents in sea view and Ladera Linda communities. How can we avoid this.
8. How will this fence removal affect property values in Seaview.
Sincerely,
Daniel Rouimi
From: Elizabeth Sax <saxhouse1@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 9:54 PM
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Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Dear Rancho Palos Verdes City Council,
I am writing to strongly oppose the recommended council action related to the removal of fencing and
vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park above the Seaview development. As a
resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our community. Removal
of the fencing and landscaping puts our Seaview community at greater risk of burglaries, noise, invasion
of privacy, and additional potential for discarded rubbish for the residents of Seaview to contend with.
The City has closed off specific Rancho Palos Verdes hiking trails due to increased burglaries and those
trails have far less foot traffic than the park will have. We need and deserve to have fencing for our
resident's protection and park attendees deserve to have fencing for their children's and pet's
protection. Shrubbery on the hillside not only mitigates noise, it helps prevent erosion. The existing
plants on the perimeter are drought tolerant so there is no need to remove them at additional cost to
the city.
Each of the city council candidates that ran for the recent RPV election ran on safety, this is your
opportunity to show us you mean it and provide Seaview safety by keeping a fence and shrubbery
where it is. I ask that the council vehemently reject the idea of removing the fence and shrubbery.
Sincerely, Elizabeth Sax
4022 Admirable Dr. (Seaview) HOA)
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Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
From: Elliot Levy <elliotlevy@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 8:35 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: City Council Nov. 15 Regular Business Item #5: Removal of Ladera Linda Park Fence and
Vegetation
Dear Councilmembers,
Following the recent onslaught of construction permit violations at the Ladera Linda Park, I was
disappointed to see Staff make recommendations to further diminish residents' quality of life in Ladera
Linda and Seaview with the removal of the perimeter fence and foliage.
As Staff have noted in their report and I understand you have all observed, the lower tier fence does not
obstruct views from the new building or higher tiers of the park. Therefore, the fence and foliage should
be kept in place around the lower tier to continue providing a visual and sound barrier for nearby homes
and discourage park visitors from approaching the perimeter slope. Staff's suggestion to replace the
fence with coastal sage scrub will not provide a sufficient barrier, and is unnecessary considering wide
ocean views are readily available in other areas of the new park, along Forrestal Drive and the parks
directly across PV Drive South.
Maintaining the fence would also be consistent with approved site plans to limit noisy activities to the
areas of the park farthest from homes. We want to keep the lower tier as a quiet place for passive
recreation and avoid attracting even more visitors to picnic and party in this area. With the proliferation
of portable speakers and barbeques, we have seen the impact of creating large open spaces with ocean
views in our city and know Rec & Park staff as well as LASD have limited resources to enforce
disturbance laws. Vining plants like bougainvillea can be added to the existing fence to improve its
appearance and discourage visitors from approaching the park perimeter.
The destruction of large trees and foliage at the site has already been detrimental to the area, and I
would like to avoid any further unnecessary removal of plants along the perimeter in this sensitive
habitat near the Preserve.
Please keep the fence and foliage and avoid subjecting Ladera Linda and Seaview residents to any
further negative impacts from this park.
We are counting on you to protect our safety, peace and quiet, and property values.
Thank you,
Elliot Levy
From: Dianne Hassen <dihassen@icloud.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 7:16 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
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I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our
community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on this
item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community
priorities.
Sincerely,
Seaview Resident
4230 Stalwart Drive
From: Irene Henrikson <irene.henrikson@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 9:23 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: LL
Please keep a fence and foliage to protect the privacy of home owners in Ladera Linda and Seaview.
Paul and Irene Henrikson
32404 Searaven
From: Sandra <san551@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 9:40 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Opposed to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/Park Fence Project 11/15/22 Agenda
Item 5
We are strongly opposed to changing the location of the fence surrounding the Ladera Linda
property. We have lived on Valor Place, a cul de sac immediately below the park for 24 years. There
have been incidents of unsupervised “kids” throwing rocks at residences below the center, both into
pools and yards as well as one time striking a young child on the face. Unsupervised children are often
on the hillsides while their parents are involved in soccer and not restricting their activities. Other times
people have sat on the swales drinking alcohol (leaving litter). Since the area is secluded, access from
the center into our properties is easily done without being seen and has resulted in burglaries. Every
property on our street has installed security due to seclusion and ease of access from the park above.
I raised my concerns at one of the community meetings because no fencing was shown on the
plans. We need both the current fencing where located to deter intrusion as well as large native
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vegetation to buffer the views into our backyards and pools. The fencing will also ensure the safety of
guests to the park so that they remain in the park on trails and designated play areas.
We bought here because it is quiet and remote. We don’t want to have forced interaction with users of
the updated facility looking down at our family and friends enjoying our yard/pool while they are at
Ladera Linda. Without the existing large barriers, people have will no limits to bad behavior.
Thank you
Sandra Heffernan
From: klenders klenders <klenders@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 9:49 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Good Morning,
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing and vegetation along the
border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended
action is detrimental to our community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on
this item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community priorities.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Seaview resident
From: Rayne Sherman <rayne@shermandesigngroup.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 10:01 AM
To: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Dan Rouimi <danrouimi@yahoo.com>; David Potter <davidparadigm@gmail.com>; Gerry Taccini
<Gtaccini@cox.net>; Jeff Dorsett <jedorsett@gmail.com>; Jerry V. Duhovic <jduhovic@hotmail.com>;
Kit M. Song <kitmsong@yahoo.com>; Lori Givens <cdoogirl@cox.net>; Mary Hermens
<mary.hermens@gmail.com>; Pam Sherman <Planningpros@earthlink.net>; Rayne Sherman FIIDA
<Rayne@ShermanDesignGroup.net>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
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To RPV City Council and Staff,
I am opposed to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project
Proposal for the following reasons:
RPV Staff has not involved/ coordinated the staff approved proposal with
the SeaView Residents Association (SRA) or the greater neighborhood.
Until the following SRA priorities are discussed with the effected
community, I oppose the proposal in in its present form.
1. Security of the SRA neighborhood.
2. Privacy of the SRA neighborhood.
3. Noise into the SRA neighborhood.
4. Views – not downhill, but straight‐out.
There is no urgency in the passage of this proposal on the 15th , the construction
of the new community center is months from completion, I urge you delay the
approval of this proposal and start to coordinate with the SRA.
Rayne Sherman,
4043 Admirable Dr.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
From: Steven Lapine <stevenlapine@auditamerica.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 11:11 AM
To: CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; pt17stearman@gmail.com
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Fence and Foliage Removal on Nov 15 City Council Agenda
I object to city staff’s recommendation to remove the privacy foliage and existing fence around the
Ladera Community Center and I ask the City Council to reject the proposal. This is completely unfair to
the surrounding neighbors that are already burdened by the changes turning Ladra Linda from a
neighborhood park to a tourist destination. It’s my understanding the city will be renting out the facility
for parties and weddings which I 100% reject.
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These changes to the park make privacy even more important. I can’t understand why the City is not
supporting the neighbors in our community. The City should not be in the events business. Staff
continues to convert a neighborhood park into a tourist destination and they should be checked by the
elected City Council representing our community.
I know how this will effect Sea View because the City allowed my neighbor to install a large observation
window, set just 6 feet from the property line. This new window looks right down on my back yard and
has eliminated our privacy. The City needs to get dialed back into making the City a better place for the
residents.
I urge Council to reject the request to remove the foliage and the fencing.
Best Regards,
Steven LaPine
310‐938‐0875
From: ezstevens <ezstevens@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:01 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: I am Opposed to the City Council's recommendation on the Ladera Linda Community Park
Landscape/ Fence project.
Subject Line: I am OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/
Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Dear City Council,
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
resident of Seaview for 40 plus years, I believe that the recommended action is
detrimental to our community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or
delay action on this item until there is input from the Seaview & Ladera Linda
Community about our community priorities.
1. What type of geological survey will be done to limit further erosion on the
hill??
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2. Why remove existing vegetation that is drought proof and requires no
irrigation?.
3. How will this removal impact the privacy of residents in Sea View?
4. What are the impacts of park construction on the houses directly below the
construction site. ( I have already spoken to one community member who says
they have experienced structural cracks in the foundation of their home. We
will inquire further to other residents who may have sustained similar
damage??
5. Why does the staff still recommend removing the fence when residents from
Ladera Linda are also against lowering this fence?
6. The removal of this fence will decrease the privacy, increase noise and
reduce the quality of life for residents in sea view and Ladera Linda
communities. How can we avoid this?
7. How will this fence removal affect property values in Seaview?
8. What type of environmental survey will be done to ensure there is no
impact on the flora and fauna that inhabit that area. There are endangered
species of gnatcatchers in the area?
Sincerely,
Seaview resident
Edward Stevens
Conqueror Dr.
From: Jenay Michou <jenaymichou@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:01 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
I am writing to vehemently oppose the recommended council action related to
the fencing and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community
Park. As a resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is
detrimental to our community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or
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delay action on this item until there is input from the Seaview Community about
our community priorities.
In the public statement, the city stated our HOA was informed of the site visit and
opportunity for discussion. This is not true. Board president and previous RPV
mayor Jerry Duhovic did not receive an email with this information, nor did any
other SRA board member.
We have great concerns about the current erosion of the hillside, the trash and
debris that will accumulate at the inaccessible fence line, the noise level that will
no longer be dampened by the current shrubbery, and the site lines that will now
be directly into our homes. The original scope directed the project to create a
view line from the community center. This has been achieved, per the public
statement. There is no reason the expand the project and create additional view
sites when many such sites currently exist nearby including Founder’s Park and
the Marilyn Ryan Park. This opinion has also been shared by the Ladera Linda
residents who were able to visit the site. They recommended the fence and
shrubbery remain as is, with the addition of some vining plants to cover what it
appears the project believes to be unsightly fencing.
Jenay Rouimi
Dauntless Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes
From: KIT & KWI <kitmsong@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:22 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Action Item 5 for upcoming City Council Meeting
I am writing in opposition to the proposed staff recommended action for the
existing fence and it’s replacement as a part of the Ladera Linda project. I ask for
the council to either reject the proposal or delay action until meeting with
Seaview Residents Association can be held for community input. While there is
mention of SRA having been contacted, none of the present board members or
residents of the community have been contacted.
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The community has strong views on this and would like to meet with city officials
on site to review the plan and to seek an alternate solution to the proposed plan.
Sincerely
Kit Song Board member of SRA.
From: Herb Stark <pt17stearman@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:42 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: City Council Meeting November 15th Regular Business Item 5
City Council Meeting November 15th
Regular Business Item 5
Removal of the existing fence and vegetation at Ladera Linda Park
I am speaking against removing the existing fence and vegetation along the ocean side
of Ladera Linda Park.
Staff is not being honest as they did not directly contact the affected residents of both
Ladera Linda and Seaview but relied on the individuals of the associations. As a result
they received very little response which I am assure was their intent to mislead the
council to believe that the residents did not care or saw no impact.
This item should be removed from the agenda until proper resident responses are
considered.
Staff also distorts city goals when they state that the City’s goal to preserve views and
vistas for the public but not considering the detrimental effects that it will have on the
surrounding residents.
It seems that staff give a higher priority to visitors that the surrounding residents.
1. The removal of this fence will decrease privacy, increase noise and reduce
the quality of life for residents in Seaview and Ladera Linda communities.
2. This is one step closer to turning Ladera Linda from a neighborhood park into
a tourist destination and attraction.
3. A tourist destination and rental facility will result in an increase in traffic on
Forrestal Drive and a safety issue at the intersection of PVDS and Forrestal
Drive.
I recommend a rejection of Staff’s proposal.
B-11
Herb Stark
Rancho Palos Verdes
From: Elliot Levy <elliotlevy@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 1:53 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Diane Mills <dianebmills@gmail.com>; edmundo hummel <ecarloshum@gmail.com>; martha foster
<martycrna@gmail.com>; Vlaco Family <vlaco5@cox.net>; Susan Wilcox <swilcox@pvplc.org>; Elliot
Levy <elliotlevy@gmail.com>
Subject: Ladera Linda HOA Board Letter RE: City Council Nov. 15 Regular Business Item #5: Removal of
Ladera Linda Park Fence and Vegetation
Dear all,
Please see the attached letter from the Board of the Ladera Linda Neighbors/Homeowners Association
regarding Item 5 on tomorrow's City Council agenda.
Please confirm receipt and inclusion of the letter in the meeting materials.
Thank you,
Elliot Levy
LLHOA Board Communications
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TO: Rancho Palos Verdes City Council
FROM: Board of the Ladera Linda Neighbors/Homeowners Association
RE: City Council Nov. 15 Regular Business Item #5: Removal of Ladera Linda Park Fence and Vegetation
Dear Councilmembers,
The Board of the Ladera Linda Neighbors/Homeowners Association (LLHOA) was disappointed to read
Staff’s recommendation to remove the perimeter fence and vegetation from the lower tier of the Ladera
Linda Community Park. As captured in the Staff report, we have visited the site in recent weeks and
worked closely with Staff to try to minimize the impact of construction and future visitors on the
surrounding neighborhoods. We strongly urge you to retain the existing fence and vegetation around
the entire lower tier of the park, as it serves as an important visual and sound barrier to protect the
privacy of surrounding residents.
At the October 19, 2021 City Council meeting, you directed staff to maintain the existing foliage in the
lower tier of the park until a view assessment from the new community center could be conducted. Staff
have now concluded that the view of Catalina Island from the new building will not be obstructed,
therefore the LLHOA board believes there should be no further removal of the perimeter fence and
foliage.
The perimeter fence and foliage around the lower tier of the park have been in place for decades and
help to maintain this area as a quiet space for walking and playing without subjecting neighboring
homes to added noise or curious visitors staring into their yards and windows. Staff’s plan to replace the
existing fence and foliage with coastal sage scrub and a new fence farther down the slope will be
insufficient in preventing park visitors from staring into the yards and homes surrounding the park, or
preventing noise from impacting our neighborhoods.
The LLHOA Board recommends the following actions to protect the interests of residents in the
surrounding neighborhoods:
1. Maintain the existing fence and foliage around the entire perimeter of the lower tier of Ladera
Linda Community Park.
2. Add vining plants such as bougainvillea to the perimeter fence around the lower tier to improve
the visual appearance and discourage park visitors from approaching the perimeter.
3. Add a half-height perimeter fence at the top of the slope on the ocean-facing side of the middle
and upper tiers of the park as a safety precaution to prevent children, balls and trash from
rolling down the slope. This is consistent with placement of City fences at the top of slopes in
other nearby areas such as Forrestal Drive behind the gate and the perimeter of Founders Park.
We are unaware of any complaints from park visitors about obstructed ocean views from this area of
the park, considering views are available from higher tiers of the Ladera Linda Park, and other nearby
areas such as Forrestal Drive and the Preserve. Furthermore, additional public parks for ocean viewing
are available within a short walk across PV Drive at Marilyn Ryan Sunset Point Park and Vista Catalina
Park, as well as other popular sunset viewing spots like Founders Park at Trump National.
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The LLHOA Board expects that the new park facilities and events are going to attract a significant
increase in visitors to our neighborhood, along with noise, traffic and trash. We worked to have the ball
courts and playgrounds moved away from the perimeter of the park and request that the Council
uphold your commitment to maintain the lower tier closest to homes as a quiet corner for passive
recreation. The perimeter fence and foliage serve as an important barrier to maintain privacy and
property values for residents of Ladera Linda and Seaview. Also, given the destruction of trees and
vegetation that has already taken place, the preservation of remaining foliage should be prioritized in
this sensitive habitat adjacent to the Preserve.
Thank you for considering the interests and needs of neighborhood residents in this decision. Please
contact us with any questions.
Sincerely,
Board of the Ladera Linda Neighbors/Homeowners Association
Diane Mills, President
Nancy Ohara, Secretary
Ed Hummel, Treasurer
Marty Foster, Community Safety
Jessica Vlaco, Community Outreach
Susan Wilcox, Communications
Elliot Levy, Communications
B-14
From: Joanne Stasio <jstasio@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 2:15 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/Fence Project
RPV City Council,
We are writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our
community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on this
item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community
priorities.
Sincerely,
Joanne & Andy Stasio
Seaview Residents | Exultant Drive
From: Cathy French <ccf214@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 4:19 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: IMPORTANT DECISIONS REGARDING LADERA LINDA CONSTRUCTION
Subject Line: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence
Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our
community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on this
item
From: Joe C. <jocruz1@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 4:30 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Dear RPV City Council,
B-15
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our
community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on this
item until there is input from the Seaview Community on the matter.
In particular, I am concerned that staff have not taken into account the effects of
removing the foliage on Seaview. For instance, the park sits in a natural sound bowl
due to the topography and surrounding mountains. As a result, noise originating at
the park carries and is amplified across our neighborhood. Has the city done a study
of how sound travels from that location and the effects their proposed action will
have on Seaview residents? Removing the foliage that is present and replacing it
with natural grasses and brush as proposed would remove a sound deadening barrier
currently in place for our neighborhood, and will ultimately affect our ability to enjoy
our homes and neighborhood. Also, while a park has been at the Ladera Linda
location for years, our neighborhood has enjoyed the natural look and quaint
neighborhood feel the current foliage provides. Removing the foliage and lowering
the fence line would emphasize the park site when driving into our neighborhood,
making the park a focal point. That's not something we want and, quite frankly not
something set forth in the city's proposals for the park.
The current folliage along the Ladera Linda Park boundary is already less than we had
a couple of years ago. Please don't remove any more.
Sincerely,
Joe Cruz
Seaview Resident
Dauntless Drive
From: rlauck@cox.net <rlauck@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 8:16 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a
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resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to our
community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on this
item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community
priorities.
Sincerely,
Seaview resident
Robert and Donna Lauck
From: Suzanne Mackey <suemackey2@yahoo.com>
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project -
Council Meeting, 11-15-2022, Agenda Item #5
Date: November 14, 2022 at 5:21:54 PM PST
To: cc@rvpca.gov, cityclerk@rpvca.gov
Dear Council Members,
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing
and vegetation along the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park.
One of the main reasons I chose to live in Rancho Palos Verdes, and specifically in
my home within the Seaview community, was because of the natural peace and
quiet. The nature preserve that surrounds the area made it seem more like a
small town and warm community.
When the Ladera Linda improvements were passed, I was thankful for the
consideration of our little neighborhood. The buildings were pushed back from
the property line, consideration was made to reduce the inevitable light pollution
the new building would bring, and parking needs of the increased traffic were
addressed. It was progress with some consideration. Moving the buildings back
from the property line was especially considerate, as it protected our privacy.
My property is on Helm Place, directly below the Community Center. It is my back
yard.
B-17
Removing the established trees that are currently on the down‐ward ocean‐side
slope means that we lose what little privacy we have left. It will remove the
natural sound barrier from the sport fields and community center. It will remove
the established root systems that are holding the loose hillside intact. It will mean
that everyone visiting the new community center will have direct access to my
backyard, visually and physically (as a shorter fence will not stop anyone from
taking a short cut across the hillside), and the barrier that stops trash from
blowing over the side will be reduced greatly. I have great concerns.
Removing trees to open the view will increase foot traffic, noise, and trash. It will
reduce privacy and peace. Especially the privacy – this will greatly impact property
values in the area. It will remove the reason we all have paid a premium to live in
this small‐town, quiet neighborhood, making it seem much more commercial,
resort‐like, and potentially unkept.
As a resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended action is detrimental to
our community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on
this item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community
priorities.
Sincerely,
Suzanne Mackey
RPV and Seaview resident
From: Suzanne Mackey <suemackey2@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 12:45 PM
To: James O'Neill <joneill@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: OPPOSED to Ladera Linda Landscape ‐ re‐sending
I wanted to add a couple concerns to my initial note, as stated below:
1) I’m concerned of increased fire danger on that hill should “shrubs and low plants” be added, as there
is no irrigation and the hillside is already overrun with dead‐plant debris. Adding additional seasonal
growth and die‐off would increase that fire danger.
That hillside is not maintained ‐ at all currently ‐ and I would anticipate that to be the norm moving
forward.
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2) There are water run‐off channels on the hillside that have never been serviced for debris removal.
The bottom one is full of dirt and serves zero purpose for water shedding.
I have asked the city several times to take a look at this, as well as the trees that need trimmed (been
asking for five‐years now) and nothing has been done regarding either of those concerns.
If the trees and established root systems are removed from that hillside, the loose dirt/rock/hill will
exponentially increase the erosion and the filling of those water ways.
What is plan for water erosion and other erosion for that area?
3) Is there a plan to add irrigation to the hillside? And is that really the best plan, considering the severe
drought California is currently in? Established trees and plants that are currently in the area do not need
that additional water.
Thank you, again, for your invitation. I look forward to hearing the plan for the neighbors concerns.
Best,
Sue Mackey
Seaview Resident
From: JAMES STEWART <journeyman@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 11:07 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Opposed to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/Fence Project
We are writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing and vegetation along
the border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As residents of Seaview, we believe that the
recommended action is detrimental to our community. We ask that the Council rejects this action.
Sincerely,
James and Elizabeth Stewart
From: Mark Morgan <facel@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 4:32 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; cityclerk@rpvc.gov
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Dear RPV City Council,
B-19
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing and vegetation along the
border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a Seaview homeowner, I believe that the recommended
action is detrimental to the community and ask that the Council reject this action.
Sincerely,
Mark Morgan
Seaview Homeowner
From: Janet Furusho‐Zupke <msjanetz@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 5:06 PM
To: CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Cc: rpvca@rpvca.gov
Subject: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting, 11‐
15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
I am writing to oppose the recommended council action related to the fencing and vegetation along the
border of the Ladera Linda Community Park. As a resident of Seaview, I believe that the recommended
action is detrimental to our community. I ask that the Council either reject this action or delay action on
this item until there is input from the Seaview Community about our community priorities.
Sincerely,
Janet Furusho Zupke
From: Patricia Stenehjem <patsyanntoo@icloud.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:53 PM
To: James O'Neill <joneill@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fencing on southeast side of Ladera Linda
B-20
I think it would make sense to use this type of fence on the top of the southeast side of Ladera Linda
Park. It would coordinate with what’s already on the west side of Forrestal, and maybe convey the
message to stay off the steep slope!
From: patricia stenehjem <patsyanntoo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 2:00 PM
To: James O'Neill <joneill@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fencing at Ladera Linda
Hi James, I sent you a photo of the fence already on the west side of Forrestal; it seems like it might be a
good solution for the top of the southeast side of the park; maybe deterring people from climbing down
hill. Also, another safety concern there would be snakes and scorpions, in addition to the steep hillside.
Sincerely,
Pat Stenehjem
From: sharon ishibashi <sisishi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 4:28 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fw: Ladera Linda park
B-21
I live at 3938 Dauntless Dr in the seaview tract just across from the stairs up to ladera linda community
center I have found out that you want to remove the trees and the fence to provide a unobstructed view
for the people using the park I do not want this to happen as it will open up where people will have an
unobstructed view of mine and the other homeowners on dauntless dr I will not feel safe going out front
and having strangers watching my every move the trees will at least give us some privacy which you
want to take away from us the wild life in the neighborhood use the trees for protection the rabbits
birds skunks raccoons I feel this is an invasion of our privacy there is a park (founders Park that has an
unobstructed view that if people want to watch the sunset they could use that park which wouldn’t
effect any neighborhood we’re already going to have to put up with noise traffic people please consider
if you lived her would you want people you don’t know the trees will provide some privacy for us
Thank you for considering rancho Palos verdes long time resident concern
My family were the first Japanese farmers on this land and have seen so many things change please
don’t take away one more thing from them
LEAVE THE TREES at ladera linda community center
From: Joe C. <jocruz1@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 1:08 AM
To: James O'Neill <joneill@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Karina
Banales <kbanales@rpvca.gov>; Ramzi Awwad <rawwad@rpvca.gov>; Lincoln Lo <llo@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: OPPOSED to the Ladera Linda Community Park Landscape/ Fence Project ‐ Council Meeting,
11‐15‐2022, Agenda Item #5
Mr. O'Neill,
Thank you for your response. Unfortunately, I am unable to meet as I am out of town for the remainder
of the month. That said, before departing I was able to take a couple of pictures illustrating the view of
the park from our neighborhood. Please see attached.
As you can see, while the park is there and has been enjoyed by many for years, it is mostly hidden and
does not stand out from when in our neighborhood. There are plenty of beautiful views to be enjoyed
throughout the park and nearby hiking trails. My sons and I used the park right up to its closure and
never felt hindered by the lack of sea view in that segment of the park. In fact, the fence and hedges
helped prevent many a wayward ball from being lost. There's no need to create additional views from
the park at our neighborhood's expense, many of which I listed in my prior email. I hope you account
for my position in your report to council and as future decisions are made regarding the fencing and
foliage around the park.
Thanks,
Joe Cruz
B-22
Seaview Resident
B-23
B-24
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From: Amanda Wong <kiwi_esq@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 10:01 AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Dec 6 Meeting ‐ Ladera Linda Foliage
Dear City Council,
As residents of Ladera Linda we urge the city council to reconsider the ill‐advised plan of removing the
south‐west fencing facing the ocean and relocating it further down the hillside out of view to create an
“infinity edge” effect.
The only possible explanation for this design choice is to clear and promote ocean views. The only
possible result is that Ladera Linda will become a gathering place for sunset viewers, instagrammers,
wedding parties & and commercial photographers wanting a scenic lookout spot to take their photos.
We already see this frequently as bus loads of wedding parties pull up to Founders Park on the
weekends to take photos.
From the beginning residents were assured that the intent of the new community center was simply to
replace the dilapidated old school buildings. Nobody disputed this was necessary. However throughout
the process every design choice has been towards creating an architectural showpiece and facility that
can be rented out for events ‐ which will have the lasting effect of increasing noise, light pollution and
traffic in our quiet community.
Already the design of the building has permanently altered the view and character of the coastline ‐ its
profile looks like a large industrial warehouse. The old school, with its separate buildings, was
interspersed with trees and foliage which softened the look and better incorporated the buildings into
the community. (Photos attached)
Foliage is necessary for aesthetics, for privacy, for the environment, for sound barriers, and to deter
people from using the park as a “scenic spot” for photo shoots. The Ladera Linda community will have to
bear the brunt of increased visitors, and their attendant traffic, noise & trash for years to come. Could
you please make this one concession and simply replace the foliage and fence at its current location
rather than relocating the fence down the slope so as not to add one further enticement for visitors to
the park?
Thank you.
B-26
Amanda Wong & Craig German
Ladera Linda
B-27
B-28
B-29
B-30
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B-32
B-33