20200818 Late CorrespondenceFrom: Katie Lozano
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:03 PM
To: Loheit (US), Kurt W <kurt.w.loheit@boeing.com>
Cc: CityClerk <CityClerk@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Last minute input for tonite
Hello Mr. Loheit,
Thank you very much for your feedback. I will include this email with the staff report as late
correspondence.
Thank you,
Katie Lozano
Senior Administrative Analyst/Open Space Manager
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
katiel@rpvca.gov
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From: Loheit (US), Kurt W <kurt.w.loheit@boeing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 4:46 PM
To: Katie Lozano <KatieL@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Last minute input for tonite
Katie,
Since I will be unable to attend the Council Meeting regarding the issue of access to the reserves I am
providing electronic input. My apologies for any comments that may be redundant or previously
captured with staff findings as this was written at the last minute and some text may be incorrect or
poorly written. All comments reflect my opinion and experience and do not represent any organization
or entity.
The user experience does not typically start at the trailhead. In most cases it starts with some
combination of research and curiosity prior to the actual visit. Their research may involve online
information or peer interaction, their curiosity may be nothing more than an exploration of something
new without prior investigation. In either case their experience starts with the infrastructure support
surrounding the open space: proximity to the user, amenities, parking, facilities, water, are only a few
considerations a user may have interest in. From a top level view the access issues begin before a user
has even seen the area. In today’s social media driven world outreach to the user community should be
more than a map and directions, it actually begins with understanding behavior patterns and using them
as part of an overall strategy to manage access.
In general the Preserves are a collection of individual lands that vary in size, connectivity, and
experience. These are key elements of understanding some of the access issues currently under review
by Staff. While several of the individual lands are inter-connected through direct adjacency or non-
preserve connections each of them still retain some characteristics that are unique to the individual
preserve. Understanding and exploiting this uniqueness could benefit the overall management
challenges associated with access. To fully exploit the characteristics two pieces of information are
crucial: 1) what is unique in each area, and 2) how is that uniqueness messaged to users in order to
improve their experience and ultimately contribute to access management.
The first characteristic of uniqueness is an understanding of the detailed attributes within each
preserve. This is more than a generalized description of philosophy, but rather a substantial assessment
that any user can quickly review and make an informed decision on alignment with their expected
experience. Well defined attributes of the land allow users to choose their destination point, and by
default provide a layer of dispersion that starts before a visitor has arrived. As an example the
experience at Portuguese Bend is far different than Vista Del Norte, yet they are less than a mile apart
from each other. Portuguese Bend offers longer and more challenging terrain, whereas Alta Vicente
provides a shorter, less demanding experience. Both have different trail features, terrain, viewshed, and
amenity, historical and cultural elements. By exploiting the details, the user is better armed to align their
experience, which can be distributed to other users seeking similar experiences, and a potential for
better compliance along with access distribution.
The second characteristic is how to reach the user community. This is relatively simple as social media is
the tool of informational choice these days. The key here is a messaging approach that is appealing to
the media site visitor and connects with them and their experience. The current information is arguably
no more than written information put on social media. Remember that social media is more than getting
information to an individual, it is an information distribution between users and their connections. One
person looking at the Preserve site has the potential to distribute it out to hundreds or thousands. What
is needed is for the information to be important to their experience objectives and incentivize them to
be distributed to their peers so that like-minded experiences utilize the appropriate preserve rather
than a “hunt and peck” method. This doesn’t mean that the rules and directions aren’t important to see,
it just means that most folk’s primary rationale for visiting is the experience they seek. If they find the
experience they are looking for first, the additional information will be more easily absorbed, since their
initial inquiry was addressed up front.
As mentioned in the report the average daily use is somewhere in the 700 visitors a day. What is
important is not really the average daily, but the daily distribution patterns. There are peak days during
a week and within the day there may be one or more peak times. There are likely use peaks as well,
which may separate the type and time of different user groups. Understanding these variables in
distribution combined with experience expectations will help to define where the critical time windows
are, who are the user groups during those times, and how short/long they are expected to be in the
open space. This information can be utilized to offer alternatives for those with differing expectations.
As an example Portuguese Bend may see the majority of use in peak times, however it is likely that some
of those users may only want a simple or short duration experience. Preemptively making them aware
through social media of alternatives such as Vista Del Norte that are better aligned with their
expectations could reduce the pattern in Portuguese Bend. This requires the information be accessible
in the social media outlet, and it would be more than “here is an alternative”. It might be better served
to state something like “if you are looking for a brief time to walk in a low stress environment, try the
loop at Vista Del Norte. Parking is easy at the mall and this short half mile hike starts and ends at the
same trailhead. Along the top are excellent views of the Los Angeles basin and the Santa Monica bay”.
Changing behavior requires a rationale for the change to occur, which requires enough positive
attributes for a user to accept the recommendation.
This is a simplified version of a systematic approach to access management. The actual work to
implement will require in-depth study, assessment, media savvy, along with implementation planning
and results monitoring. And it is only one tool of many to address the issues. I bring it up for the simple
reason that in my brief (but admittedly not in-detail) review of the staff report I did not see anything
related to the user or their experience expectations. If your customer base is not part of the equation,
you are more likely to develop a solution that creates more problems. This is somewhat supported by
the fact that the Preserves are popular because of the experience. The issue is that when something
becomes accessible it will grow in popularity. The system element missing was how to accommodate the
infrastructure to support the growth in interest. The access problem would exist regardless due to the
location of the Preserves in a somewhat of a land-locked bedroom community, however mitigation is
not insurmountable, just a bit of a bigger challenge that requires multiple integrated elements.
Thanks,
Kurt
Kurt Loheit
3200 La Rotunda
RPV, CA
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
HONORABLE MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
CITY CLERK
AUGUST 18, 2020
ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
Attached are revisions/additions and/or amendments to the agenda material presented
for tonight's meeting.
Item No.
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Description of Material
Attachment B (Amendment No. 5 to Lease Agreement with AT&T)
Email exchanges between City Manager Mihranian and: Kathy
Edgerton; Mickey Radich; Email exchanges between Senior
Administrative Analyst Lozano and: Romas Jarasunas; Barry
Rodgveller; Emails from: Jane and Jim lsomoto; Sunshine; Don
Douthwright; Thomas Olson; Diane Blade
Respectfully submitted,
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FIFTH AMENDMENT
TO BUILDING LEASE AGREEMENT
THIS FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE BUILDING LEASE AGREEMENT
("Amendment") by and between the CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ("Lessor") and
NEW CINGULAR WIRELESS PCS, LLC, formerly known as Los Angeles Cellular
Telephone Company and AT&T Wireless, ("Lessee") is effective as of the 1st day of July, 2019.
RECITALS
A. On November 15, 1988, Lessor and Lessee entered into that certain Building
Lease Agreement ("Agreement") whereby Lessor agreed to lease certain real property and grant
an irrevocable, non-exclusive easement to Lessee for an initial term of ten (1 0) years beginning
September 1, 1988, with options of Lessee to extend the term for two (2) additional five (5) year
periods thereafter, in exchange for payment by Lessee.
B. Effective June 3, 2008, Lessor and Lessee entered into a First Amendment to the
Agreement, which extended the te1m ofthe Agreement from August 31, 2008 to June 30, 2009.
C. Effective June 16, 2009, Lessor and Lessee entered into a Second Amendment to
the Agreement, which extended the term of the Agreement from June 30, 2009 to June 30, 2014.
D. On November 4, 2015, Lessor and Lessee executed a Third Amendment to the
Agreement, which extended the term ofthe Agreement from June 30, 2014 until June 30, 2016.
E. Effective July 1, 2016, Lessor and Lessee entered into a Fourth Amendment to the
Agreement, which extended the term until June 30, 2019.
F. Lessor and Lessee now desire to amend the Agreement to extend the term
(retroactive to July 1, 2019) until either June 30, 2022, or until Rancho Palos Verdes City Hall,
located at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes, California 90275, is
reconstructed, as defined below, whichever occurs first, and to amend the rent adjustment
provisions of the Agreement to provide for rent to increase by five percent (5%) annually,
irrespective of the Consumer Price Index (CPI).
G. Lessor and Lessee hereby further intend to ratify and affirm the continuous and
interrupted term of the Agreement commencing September 1, 1988, and continuing through the
effective date of this Amendment.
TERMS
1. Extension of Term. The term of the Agreement is hereby extended until either
June 30, 2022, or until Rancho Palos Verdes City Hall, located at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,
Rancho Palos Verdes, California 90275, undergoes reconstruction, whichever occurs first. Lessor
and Lessee hereby ratify and affirm the continuous and unintenupted term of the Agreement
01203.0015/652123.3 B-1 K.
commencing September 1, 1988, and continuing through the effective date of this Amendment.
For the purposes of this Amendment, "reconstruction" includes any discretionary or necessary
construction, demolition, repair, remodeling, or retrofitting activity that interferes with the
Lessee's use of its wireless telecommunications facilities or any accessory equipment such that
the facilities or equipment require removal or replacement. The decision to engage in such
reconstruction shall be in the sole discretion of the Lessor, and Lessor shall provide Lessee at
least thirty (30) notice of commencement of such reconstruction, at which commencement the
term shall terminate.
2. Annual Rent Adjustments. Effective and commencing on July 1, 2019,
notwithstanding any provision of Section 3(C) of the Agreement to the contrary and in lieu of the
annual rent adjustments provided for therein, the Annual Rent due under the Agreement shall
increase by five percent (5%) on July 1 of each calendar year for the remainder of the Term of
the Agreement. The first such five percent (5%) increase shall take effect on the effective date of
this Amendment, July 1, 2019, and all accrued back rent due to Lessor pursuant to this section
upon execution of this Amendment shall be paid by Lessee within 30 days of the date of full
execution of this Amendment.
3. Notices. Lessee's notice addresses listed in the Agreement are hereby deleted in their
entirety and the following are substituted in lieu thereof:
New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC
Attn: Network Real Estate Administration
Re: Cell Site No.: LAC124; Cell Site Name: City ofPalos Verdes (CA)
Fixed Asset No.: 10085903
1025 Lenox Park Blvd. NE, 3rd Floor
Atlanta, GA 30319
With a required copy to:
New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC
Attn: Legal Dept.
Re: Cell Site No.: LAC124; Cell Site Name: City of Palos Verdes (CA)
Fixed Asset No.: 10085903
208 S. Akard Street
Dallas, TX 75202
4. Continuing Effect of Agreement. Except as amended by this Amendment, all
provisions of the Agreement shall remain unchanged and in full force and effect. From and after
the date of this Amendment, whenever the term "Agreement" appears in the Agreement, it shall
mean the Agreement, as amended by this Amendment to the Agreement.
5. Affirmation of Agreement; Warranty Re Absence of Defaults. Lessor and
Lessee each ratify and reaffirm each and every one of the respective rights and obligations
arising under the Agreement. Each party represents and warrants to the other that there have been
no written or oral modifications to the Agreement other than as provided herein. Each party
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represents and warrants to the other that the Agreement is currently an effective, valid, and
binding obligation.
Lessee represents and warrants to Lessor that, as of the date of this Amendment, Lessor is
not in default of any material term of the Agreement and that there have been no events that,
with the passing of time or the giving of notice, or both, would constitute a material default
under the Agreement.
Lessor represents and warrants to Lessee that, as of the date of this Amendment, Lessee
is not in default of any material term of the Agreement and that there have been no events that,
with the passing of time or the giving of notice, or both, would constitute a material default
under the Agreement.
6. Adequate Consideration. The parties hereto irrevocably stipulate and agree that
they have each received adequate and independent consideration for the performance of the
obligations they have undertaken pursuant to this Amendment.
7. Authority. The persons executing this Amendment on behalf of the parties hereto
warrant that (i) such party is duly organized and existing, (ii) they are duly authorized to execute
and deliver this Amendment on behalf of said party, (iii) by so executing this Amendment, such
party is formally bound to the provisions of this Amendment, and (iv) the entering into this
Amendment does not violate any provision of any other agreement to which said party is bound.
[SIGNATURES ON FOLLOWING PAGE]
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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have executed this Amendment on the
dates set forth below, with express intent that this Amendment shall be effective as of July 1,
2019.
ATTEST:
Emily Colborn, City Clerk
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
ALESHIRE & WYNDER, LLP
William W. Wynder, City Attorney
[BRJ]
Lessor:
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
John Cruikshank, Mayor
Date: _______ , 2020
Lessee:
NEW CINGULAR WIRELESS PCS, LLC
By: AT&T Mobility Corporation
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APPROPRIATE ATTESTATIONS SHALL BE INCLUDED AS MAY BE REQUIRED
BY THE BYLAWS, ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, OR OTHER RULES OR
REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO LESSEE'S BUSINESS ENTITY.
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From:
Sent:
To:
Teresa Takaoka
Tuesday, August 18, 2020 8:33 AM
Nathan Zweizig
Subject: FW: RPV City Council Meeting 8/18/2020, Agenda Item #1, Nature Preserve Impacts on
Surrounding Neighborhoods
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From: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 12:55 PM
To: 'Del Cerro HOA' <DeiCerro_HOA@hotmail.com>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: RPV City Council Meeting 8/18/2020, Agenda Item #1, Nature Preserve Impacts on Surrounding Neighborhoods
Hi Kathy,
The City is in receipt of your email expressing the Del Cerro HOA's recommendations.
Your email will be provided to the City Council as late correspondence in advance of Tuesday's meeting, and I plan on providing
it to other residents who are submitting emails on this subject.
Thank you,
Ara
From: Del Cerro HOA [mailto:DeiCerro HOA@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 12:07 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RPV City Council Meeting 8/18/2020, Agenda Item #1, Nature Preserve Impacts on Surrounding Neighborhoods
Honorable Mayor and City Council,
The attached letter regarding nature preserve impacts on surrounding neighborhoods is attached for your
consideration.
Sincerely,
Kathy Edgerton
President, Del Cerro HOA
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Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
Thank you for your continued willingness to address the traffic and parking conditions that
persist near the entrance of the Burma Rd. trailhead at the end of Crenshaw Blvd.
After 8 years of continuous efforts by the City Staff and City Council to ameliorate conditions, we
find that conditions improve after each new set of parking restrictions and signage is
implemented. However, as more people become aware of the Palos Verdes Nature Preserve,
the number of visitors and the associated impacts to nearby residents continue to increase,
reducing the benefits derived from the City's efforts over time. And the Safer at Home measures
to control the spread of the COVID pandemic have exacerbated already difficult conditions.
While the pandemic may abate at some point in the future, it is highly likely that the increase in
visitors resulting from it will continue because of the unique attractiveness of the area.
Traffic/Parking Conditions at End of Crenshaw Blvd. (South of Crest Rd.)
We know that you are very aware of the conditions. However, we would like to briefly share
some quantitative data that indicate the magnitude of the problems the surrounding neighbors
encounter. Much of the information was derived by one of our residents using video footage
from his security camera. We would be glad to discuss how the information was developed if
you have any questions.
• Crenshaw Blvd. south of Crest Rd. is a 2-lane dead-end street that services 256 homes
(in Del Cerro, Island View, PV Park Place and Rancho Crest HOAs).
• Approximately, 8,000 vehicles travel Crenshaw from Crest Rd. to the end at Seacrest
weekly. Since all of the surrounding streets are cui-de-sacs with no outlet, those vehicles
must then travel out of the area, doubling the number of vehicle trips along that corridor
to 16,000.
• Up to 2,000 vehicles per day arrive in the area on weekends. Up to 1 ,200 vehicles arrive
per day on weekdays.
• From 6 am to 8 pm, the 41 parking spots on Crenshaw between the Island View
entrance and Park Place are filled 92% of the time on weekdays and 98% on weekends.
All of the 41 spots are typically filled by 6:00am on weekends and by 6:30am on
weekdays.
• Because of the high parking spot fill rate, visitors frequently stop their vehicles in either
the southbound or northbound traffic lane while waiting for a parking spot to be emptied,
forcing residents and their guests to move into the opposing lane of traffic to pass
through the area. This is particularly true where Crenshaw narrows toward the end and
visibility of vehicles exiting Park Place is blocked by the parked cars.
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• Visitors also stop and wait for parking spots to become available in the parking area next
to St. John Fisher Church. Since there is a median separating the two lanes of traffic
there, residents are unable to pass around the waiting vehicles and have no option but
to wait until the car is moved.
• Visitors waiting for a parking spot often speed forward or even drive rapidly in reverse to
obtain a vacated spot.
• Visitors waiting in the northbound lane often cross the opposing traffic to make a U-turn
to obtain a parking spot. In addition, visitors who are leaving will cross the southbound
lane and make a U-turn to leave the area in the northbound direction.
• Visitors also regularly make U-turns at the end of Crenshaw and at multiple intersections
within Del Cerro.
• At the same time, there is heavy pedestrian traffic from the 171 total parking places
spilling into the street. (The 171 parking places include those along Crenshaw south of
Crest Rd., Park Place, Crest Rd. east of Crenshaw, and the east side of Crenshaw north
of Crest Rd.)
Dangerous Traffic Results
As a result of the visitors' actions, the traffic conditions are very dangerous. Residents' entrance
into and exits from the neighborhood are impeded by vehicles stopped in traffic lanes and they
must dodge unpredictable U-turns along the way -while trying to maintain a safe distance from
pedestrians. This is all occurring along a street that has a 40 mph speed limit.
Indeed, while driving through the parking area at the end of Crenshaw, one of our neighbors
was broadsided by a vehicle making a U-turn while exiting from a parking spot, resulting in
serious injury to a passenger.
Residential Quality of life Impacts
The preserve is open from one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset (currently 5:15 am
to 8:40 pm). Parking is prohibited on Crenshaw during the hours when the preserve is closed.
The residents whose properties abut Crenshaw Blvd., the Crenshaw Extension and the Burma
Rd. trail are disturbed by incessant noise from before 5 am to 9:30 pm every day of the week-
including constant horn honk alarm activations, car alarms, car doors slamming, loud music and
loud voices.
Since a gate that keeps people from entering when the preserve is closed has not been
installed yet, many visitors still arrive well beyond the preserve posted hours, park on Crenshaw
and enter the nature preserve or Del Cerro Park for late-night parties.
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All of this activity and noise creates extended disturbances to the peace and quiet of the
neighborhood.
Del Cerro HOA Recommendations
We request that the City Council take the following actions:
• Place the highest priority on installing the trailhead gates at the Burma Rd. and
Rattlesnake Trail trailheads as soon as possible. The gates were approved by the City
Council in July 2018 and January 2019, respectively.
• Approve the opening of the two trailhead gates from 7 am to sunset. We expect that the
closure of the gates will substantially reduce the early morning and late night noise
currently being experienced by reducing the motivation for visitors to arrive when the
gates are closed without requiring significant enforcement. The current design of the
gates will still allow visitors to the preserve to enjoy the sunset and then leave at their
convenience, but not allow people to enter once the gates are closed. The gates will also
enable enforcement of preserve closures due to rain or during periods of high fire
danger.
• Approve the elimination of parking on Crenshaw Blvd. south of Crest Rd., while
redirecting visitors to available space on Crenshaw north of Crest Rd. (including the west
side adjacent to the Art Center) and Crestridge (west of Crenshaw). While 65 parking
spaces would be eliminated from the area adjacent to homes and St. John Fisher
Church, more than that number of parking spaces are available, but not currently used,
on the west side of Crenshaw next to the Art Center and on Crestridge -most of which
are no farther from the trail than visitors are already walking.
• Approve the opening of a new primary trailhead away from RPV residents adjacent to
PV Drive South (i.e., Gateway Park). This would make a large segment of the preserve
much more accessible to residents and visitors, yet would be a significant distance from
homes to minimize any negative impacts. Parking would be much closer to where trails
begin -and therefore more convenient for visitors. A trailhead off PV Drive South would
also have the benefit of enabling preserve visitors to begin their hikes at the bottom of
the preserve, hike uphill, then return to their cars by walking downhill when they are
getting weary, reducing the likelihood that hikers may be overcome by exhaustion.
• Continue City Staff's efforts to actively promote access to the Alta Vicente Reserve trails
adjacent to the Civic Center with ample available parking and improve the amenities
there.
• Use search engine optimization techniques to direct internet searches to promote the
trails at City Hall and a new trailhead at Gateway Park (as soon as it becomes
available). This will undoubtedly help to direct newcomers to trailheads that can
accommodate larger numbers of visitors.
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• Coordinate the Staff's efforts to promote Alta Vicente Reserve and Gateway Park and
optimize internet searches with the PVP Land Conservancy to assure consistent
messaging.
Conclusions
The above actions will help to provide immediate relief to weary residents. We believe that red
curbing Crenshaw Blvd. is the option with the greatest immediate and sustainable positive
impact to the surrounding neighborhoods. It can be implemented with minimal cost and, most
importantly, it is a self-regulating solution that requires minimal enforcement. We have also
noted that visitors seem to avoid parking next to red curbs more than they comply with posted
No Parking signs.
Appropriate signage/message boards on Crenshaw and Crest Rd. can be used to notify current
preserve visitors who already use the Burma Rd. and Rattlesnake Trail trailheads (and therefore
would not be searching the internet for trail information) of the additional available parking north
of Crest Rd. and the trails at the Civic Center. This signage, in conjunction with website
information available to potential newcomers, will help to steer visitors in the near term to the
Civic Center.
As indicated in the staff report, enforcement of parking violations has been somewhat effective
(with emphasis placed primarily on violations of permit parking on Park Place). However, up to
now, enforcement has generally not been effective in addressing traffic problems on Crenshaw
-and, honestly, having our deputies spending significant time enforcing the traffic or parking
rules is not a cost-effective use of those resources.
The overall size of the nature preserve is large enough to accommodate the current total
number of visitors. Opening or expanding access at two additional widely dispersed locations
(with substantial parking away from residents and adequate amenities) will also help to spread
the visitors over a wider area and reduce negative impacts that neighboring communities and
the preserve itself experience.
It should be noted that all of the open space areas mentioned in the staff report that City Staff
deemed comparable to the Palos Verdes Nature Preserve in size, beauty and recreational
opportunity have multiple parking lots dedicated to public access.
Parking Reservation System
Based on our current understanding of the parking reservation system, Del Cerro residents see
several drawbacks to the approach.
• It is not self-regulating and would require a continuous high level of enforcement-and
be substantially more expensive than red curbing.
• While it could reduce the number of vehicles arriving in the area, it would not eliminate
the traffic hazards of U-turns into and out of parking places, and people waiting in the
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traffic lanes for a place to park. The current plan addresses parking enforcement, but not
on traffic enforcement.
• As currently envisioned, the recommended parking reservation system would not reduce
the early morning/late night noise or control vehicle traffic on weekdays.
• It would take longer to implement -and the neighborhood needs relief from the
problems urgently.
Thank you for your consideration of these requests. And many thanks to the City Manager and
Staff for their diligent and creative efforts in working with us to find necessary solutions.
Sincerely,
The Del Cerro HOA Board
Kathy & AI Edgerton
Gregory MacDonald
Miriam & Pete Varend
Dion Hatch
Bharathi Singh
Mark Kernen
Amy & Jeff Wang
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Hi Mickey,
Thank you for taking the time to provide comments on tonight's agenda item regarding traffic and parking
impacts at Del Cerro/Portuguese Bend Reserve.
Your email will be provided to the City Council this evening as late correspondence.
I appreciate the valuable input you have provided especially regarding the unintended consequences
associated with creating a parking lot/trailhead at Gateway Park.
The points you make, along with your suggested recommendations, will be communicated to the City
Council for their consideration this evening.
Best,
Ara
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Since 2015 the City Council and staff have held numerous meetings discussing the Del Cerro parking problems
and the trail access management problems for the Portuguese Bend Preserve. Staff recognizes the problems and
wishes to find a solution that will satisfy everyone involved. They has implemented many ideas but only a few things
have helped. Very little has been accomplished in the last 5 years and we are still faced with the same parking issues
and trail access management problems we have always had. After many attempts to resolve these problems, we are
back to square one. It is time for us to think outside the box
This Preserve was created to preserve the habitat and have open space for passive recreation. Many of the previous
discussions were centered on use by the users; hikers, bicycles and horses. Many times all three groups are on the
same trail at the same time. Some of these combined trails are 2 feet wide and as a result many trails have been badly
damaged and users create their own new trails whenever they want. Some people are of the opinion that the trails can
support thousands of users, at the same time (daily) because of its size, however history has shown us that is not true
because the existing number of users are still damaging the trails and the habitat. We must limit the number of users
to a manageable level so that we can protect this valuable habitat, otherwise it will be lost forever. I believe that one
cannot solve these ongoing issues piecemeal. One must look at our trail system as a whole instead of moving a
problem from one location to another. Agenda Item #1 is just such an example. It only talks about a Del Cerro
solution. This report is very fragmented. it mentions Ladera Linda but never discussed and included its issues, yet
alone any solutions.
I strongly feel that before we attempt to have any discussions on traffic and parking for the Preserves, we must first
determine how many users we can accommodate in any given Preserve and then proceed with the solutions for the
traffic and parking problems.
Bringing up Gateway Park as a solution, with 200 parking places, is not an answer. A previous City Council
studied this idea thoroughly and decided that Gateway Park had many safety issues that are listed in an attached
report. In the Del Cerro HOA report, they complain about users lining up and blocking their streets to wait for an
empty parking place, while other users are making u-turns all over the area, which has caused a number of accidents.
Del Cerro residents have my deepest sympathy because the residents need some immediate answers. The traffic in
their neighborhood is unbearable. They should not have to face this daily and more so on weekends.
This report attempts to control the number of users visiting the Preserve at any one time by instituting a parking
permit program with a 3 to 4 hour time slot. That creates a driving free-for-all around the main Preserve
entrances, especially at the end of the 3 to 4 hour shifts. You already have that situation around Park Place where cars
are blocking the streets waiting for users to return to their cars after their usage and causes traffic congestion. Imagine
this occurring at other trail heads as well. Users will quickly learn to get around the parking pass requirement to enter
the preserve, by proceeding to one of the other 50 Preserve entrances. That does not work well because it will create
parking congestion in many residential areas around the various Preserve entrances. This also makes the City
responsible for every parking permit holder to have a reserved parking place.
As I said before, we must look at all of our preserves together. The Abalone Cove parking lot is another traffic
problem. On weekends, the lot fills up quickly and drivers wait in line in front of the gate and cars line up and block
one of two eastbound lanes on PVDS. The proposed Gateway park, parking lot will also fill up quickly and there will
also be a line of cars stretching out onto PVDS (with only one lane in each direction), which is in the slide area. There
will be u-turns and drivers trying to get around the stalled traffic. This does not make sense while we are moving a
traffic problem from one place to another.
Having a preserve user permit makes a lot more sense. It does not make the City responsible for user parking
places. Once the fencing and gate are installed at the preserve entrance at Del Cerro, those entering the Preserve can
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be scanned while entering and the City Rangers can patrol inside the Preserve with a scanner to detect if someone
entered the preserve illegally.
The plan to direct users to park at City Hall and use the Point Vicente/Civic Center & PVIC trails is a good idea but
may be difficult to get the users attention. Users will have a relatively small area, with trails not as challenging as
those at Del Cerro and Forrestal. I feel that it would be difficult to get many users to abandon the Portuguese Bend
Preserve for the Civic Center area.
This Staff Report does not present anything new. It simply re-hashes everything that was suggested and tried over
the last 5 years. In this report no mention was made of the Manhattan Beach Sand Dune Park which uses a preserve
permit system and not a parking permit and it has been successful. Staff should be checking all of these other options,
especially since some are nearby. A simple check of their website shows you how it works and it is simple to
navigate. They have the ability to charge non-residents more than residents, probably because they did not use
government grants and did not have to worry about any grant 'restrictions' and 'conditions'.
Thinking outside the box for Del Cerro, I would suggest the following:
1. Install the fencing and gate at the trailhead at Del Cerro.
2. Change the trail hours so that residents are not disturbed at 5:00 to 7:00AM or after dark.
3. Attempt to remove most of the parking places within the Del Cerro area.
4. Meter the remaining parking places and charge $20.00 I hour or whatever.
5. Find a way to put a private gate on a street to cover as much of the Del Cerro neighborhood as possible. That
will be where the parking places can be removed.
6. Paint red curbs wherever necessary to maintain traffic flow.
7. Let users park along Crenshaw north of Crest and meter those places as well.
I also have some out of the box ideas for Forrestal, Ladera Linda and A YSO that I can share when Council decides
to consider all Preserves together.
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FW: Tues RPVCC Agenda -Parking Solutions in Del Cerro Neighborhood
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Subject: Tues RPVCC Agenda-Parking Solutions in Del Cerro Neighborhood
Hello Mr. Jarasunas,
Thank you very much for your email and all your coordination and communication. We will look forward to looking at
solutions to your neighborhood's difficult situation this evening.
Thank you,
Katie Lozano
Senior Administrative Analyst/Open Space Manager Recreation and Parks Department City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
katiel@rpvca.gov
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Subject: Tues RPVCC Agenda-Parking Solutions in Del Cerro Neighborhood
Honorable Mayor and City Council members,
Thank you for your consideration in this serious traffic matter on Crenshaw. We appreciate this is a difficult issue that the City
Council is tasked to resolve. It would appear, though, that the potential for resolution is fairly simple and straightforward. Our
HOA members reviewed all of the potential solutions and the following are the most popular.
1. Red stripe Crenshaw-this is the least costly solution and no police enforcement is needed. It eliminates thousands of cars
per week, and drastically improves safety and liability issues. This would also help the situation on Park Place as fewer cars
would randomly enter that street and make u-turns; same would be true on the Crenshaw extension, safer for pedestrians and
fewer u-turns. There is additional parking on Crenshaw north o: Crest on the west and east sides, and on Crestridge as far as/.
High ridge-unlimited parking that does not hinder preserve access concerns. We understand that there will be a learning
curve for compliance by the public and in addition to the individual experiences we suggest this be part of the messaging by
the City in social media or any other platform.
2. Two additional trail heads-one at City Hall and one at toe of the preserve, which provides a triangle effect in distributing the
traffic congestion to other areas equitably.
3. The third most popular solution was a parking reservation system via phone app. A consideration is that some members of
our HOA believe that traffic may not improve much due to queuing. Lack of enforcement and cost could be significant factors,
but still be worthwhile to examine further.
We have compared notes with several other neighboring HOAs and believe we are united in implementing immediate
solutions.
Sincerely,
Romas Jarasunas
Burrell/Park Place HOA President
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FW: Palos Veredes Nature Preserve I Burma Road Trailhead
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Subject: RE: Palos Veredes Nature Preserve I Burma Road Trailhead
Hello Mr. Rodgveller,
Thank you very much for your email. Your personal accounting of how you are impacted, and all the input and coordination
from your neighborhood, has been extremely helpful to staff to further understand quality of life and traffic issues in the Del
Cerro neighborhood. Your email will be submitted with the agenda item tonight as late correspondence. We look forward to
looking into solutions this evening.
Thank you,
Katie Lozano
Senior Administrative Analyst/Open Space Manager
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
katie I@ rpvca .gov
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From: Barry Rodgveller <rodgfamily@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:11PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; rodgfami!y@gmail.com
Subject: Palos Veredes Nature Preserve I Burma Road Trailhead
Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
Our family has lived on the Peninsula for 45 years and have been on Burrell
Lane for the past 36 years. This is where we brought up our three daughters. I
am now retired but have practiced med~cine in Torrance and San Pedro for 4~
years. We love where we live and feel very fortunate to be in such a
beautiful place .. We truly understand why others who live in Los Angeles
County come to this paradise to also enjoy the incredible natural beauty of the
Peninsula.
In the past 8 years our quiet, almost unknown spot, has become a magnet for
hikers and others wishing to enjoy this place. Unfortunately through social
media, articles and word of mouth our small corner of the Peninsula has been
overrun. We understand the attraction but their needs to be rules and limits.
In spite of the City Council's past efforts the crowds have only grown. and
since the re-opening of the Preserve in May the numbers seem to have been
turbocharged. Our backyard is a mere 1 00' from the trail head. All day long,
weekdays and weekends, my wife and i can hear the voices of the hikers
talking and yelling. It sounds like they are in our backyard.
The issue is not merely a traffic one but one of quality of life. We can no
longer enjoy our home, our backyard and our neighborhood as we once did.
We urge the city to take immediate bold action for your neighbors who live in
the area of Del Cerro Park and the Burma Road Trail head.
My suggestions for the City Council are:
1. Eliminate all parking (weekdays, weekends and holidays) on Crenshaw
Blvd. south of Crest Road and on Crest Road east of Crenshaw Blvd. to the
Rolling Hills gate.
2. Construct a gate at the Burma Road Trail head to the Preserve that limits
access from sunrise to sunset.
3. For weekends and holidays create a permit system in order to access the
Preserve. This can be done through the City website. It should limit the
number of visitors per hour and limit each visit to 2 or 3 hours.
4. Using the City website and social media market other trail heads
(apparently there are 12) leading to the Preserve.
Thank you for your understanding and consideration.
Sincerely,
Barry Rodgveller
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Subject: RE: City Council Agenda 8/18/20 Regular Item 1-Impacts Near Del Cerro Park
Hello Mr. and Ms. lsomoto,
Thank you very much for your email. Your email will be submitted with the agenda item tonight as late correspondence. We
look forward to looking into solutions to the quality of life issues in the Del Cerro neighborhood this evening.
Thank you,
Katie Lozano
Senior Administrative Analyst/Open Space Manager
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
lgltiel@rQvca .gov
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From: Jane & Jim <jisomoto@verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 5:51PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: City Council Agenda 8/18/20 Regular Item 1-Impacts Near Del Cerro Park
Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council,
We have lived in Island View for 33 years. In the last couple years the traffic and congestion associated with Del Cerro park
and the trails system has become unbearable. Cars coming up Crenshaw searching for parking have increased
dramatically. Visitors from those cars and bicyclists have no qualms about walking, running or riding across the street with no
regard for oncoming traffic. Cars parked on Crenshaw open doors into the street and stand there loading or unloading I
everything from children and bicycles to hiking gear. It is a miracle no one has been hit or injured.
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Please paint the curbs on Crenshaw up to Crest Road RED. Keeping people from darting out between cars and crossing the
street will make it much safer to drive on Crenshaw and possibly save the City from future liability.
Please open the parking areas at the other side of the preserve and allow people to access the trail system at that
point. Encouraging people to use other access points for the preserve would be beneficial to those of us in the Del Cerro
neighborhoods who have had to put up with these dangerous conditions for the last few years.
Thank you for your consideration of our requests.
Jane and Jim lsomoto
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FW: Another late Duh! Re: August 18th City Council Agenda Item: Mitigating Negative
Impacts To Neighborhoods Near Del Cerro Park
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Subject: RE: Another late Duh! Re: August 18th City Council Agenda Item: Mitigating Negative Impacts To Neighborhoods Near
Del Cerro Park
Hello Sunshine,
Thank you for your email. It will be included with the agenda item tonight as late correspondence.
Thank you,
Katie Lozano
Senior Administrative Analyst/Open Space Manager
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
]<atiel @rpvca.gov
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appropriate department and follow all posted directions during your visit. Walk-ups are limited to one person at a
time. Please note that our response to your inquiry could be delayed. For a list of department phone numbers, visit
the Staff Directory on the City website.
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 6:21PM
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dtrautner@rpvca.gov; Katie Lozano <KatieL@rpvca.gov>; Jesse Villalpando <jvillalpando@rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo
<RonD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Another late Duh! Re: August 18th City Council Agenda Item: Mitigating Negative Impacts To Neighborhoods Near Del
Cerro Park
Dear Mr. Mayor and City Council,
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The solution to this problem is in the solution to the bigger decision. What are you authorizing spending
my/our money on? Staff Hours are real dollar costs. All you may discuss are "short term solutions".
When is Staff going to allow the Council and the public to discuss how trails are supposed to connect
trailheads like parks, schools, Fire Stations, communities and other public venues? See? Multiple
Departments are not contributing to individual Department's Recommendations.
There is an RPV Trails Network Plan in place. There has been a change. Most of what used to be existing
trails to be preserved and enhanced under the direction of the Planning Department in conjunction with a
private development application are now "social tails" on City property. Rec.& Parks Personnel need to
turn to the Public Works Department to engineer the the goals in the RPV General Plan.
These trails are no longer "conceptual". They existed until somebody told Katie that the TNP does not
apply to the PV Nature Preserve. Who told somebody that it does not apply to public rights of way and
parklands? Nevermind that. The big question to our elected representatives is... Who are we supposed to
help connect the dots?
There is a parking problem at Del Cerro because the... I have been asked to keep it short. It takes
everybody working together to propose a "trails network" which brings together the various special
interests under the umbrella of the City's responsibility to provide for citizens' health, safety and welfare.
am not going to leave on behalf of the "wildlife".
Who is supposed to pull together a balance? ... Sunshine 310-377-8761
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On August 18, 2020, the Rancho Palos Verdes City Council will consider the following agenda
item:
Consideration and possible action to implement measures mitigating impacts to
residential neighborhoods adjacent to Del Cerro Park and Portuguese Bend Reserve.
Click here to view the staff report.
The City Council meeting will be conducted at 7 p.m. using the Zoom video conference platform. The
meeting will still be live-streamed on the City's web page and televised on RPVtv Cox 33/Frontier FiOS
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Please contact Senior Administrative Analyst Katie Lozano for additional information at
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Subject: FW: Crenshaw to Del Cerro Park/Nature Preserve Traffic Mitigation
Importance: High
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From: don Douthwright <dddrpv@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:56AM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: dddrpv@verizon.net
Subject: Crenshaw to Del Cerro Park/Nature Preserve Traffic Mitigation
Importance: High
Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
As you are well aware, traffic and safety issues along Crenshaw from Crest Road to Del Cerro Park have continued to increase
over the years. We thank the current and past City Councils for taking various actions to help alleviate well known
issues. Unfortunately, a lot more needs to be done.
Traffic has increased up to thousands of vehicles per day with huge increases on the weekends causing safety concerns and
unpleasant consequences to the 4 neighboring HOAs. Parking begins as early as 5:00am and lasts as late as 9:00.
Vehicles speed, make U-turns, double park impeding traffic, and hikers dart in and out between vehicles, slam vehicle doors
trunks unloading hiking equipment and bicycles, speak loudly, set vehicle alarms often with horns honking. All of these disturb
and awake surrounding neighbors. There have been traffic accidents. The conditions are not safe.
Some of the items being considered are:
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Painting Curb Red on both sides of Crenshaw from Crest Rd. to Del Cerro Park. Del Cerro, Burrell/Park Place, Valley
View, Island View and St. John Fisher are unanimously in favor of this option. Replacement parking is available on
Crenshaw and Crestridge near the Arts Center. This option eliminates many of the concerns above and is the most
cost effective and requires minimal to no enforcement.
City Hall Trailhead: Promote the use ofthe City Hall Trailhead which has substantial parking available .
Formerly known as Gateway Park: This option was an original plan many years ago but is always killed. Island View
again is strongly in favor of this option as it would be a staffed lot directing hikers up the trailhead and prohibit them
from crossing PVDS towards the ocean for safety reasons. This property is the furthest from any residential area. Not
in my backyard is unacceptable. Various neighborhoods need to share the responsibility of the impact of the Nature
Preserve. Our 4 neighborhoods should not have to bear the brunt ofthe negatives.
Pay or Reservation Parking: Island View is adamantly against this option which is costly to administer and doesn't
alleviate our concerns for noise and safety.
Shuttle Service: Island View is opposed to this option due to cost and commercialization of the street. We really don't
believe hikers would use this option.
Web Site and Social Media: We strongly encourage the City to work on its website as well as those of the Nature
Preserve, Chamber of Commerces, Terranea, and various Social Media sites promoting hiking at our Nature Preserve to
divert hikers to other trail heads to the Nature Preserve to spread the visitors to reduce the negative impact on our 4
neighborhoods.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Respectfully,
Don Douthwright
President
Island View HOA
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Tuesday, August 18,2020 12:54 PM
Nathan Zweizig
Subject: FW: RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION, Item (2) a. and b.: RED STRIPE CRENSHAW & ADD
Trail heads I Parking
Attachments: 20 08 Aug 18 Park PI HOA support Crenshaw Red Curb & Open City Hall & Toe.docx
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From: pvpprof <pvpprof@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 12:52 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION, Item (2) a. and b.: RED STRIPE CRENSHAW & ADD Trail heads/ Parking
Honorable Mayor and City Council,
Palos Verdes, CA 90275
find attached a letter written on my behalf as well as Park Place HOA and our Neighborhood
This letter is rt:;sp03Ctfully submitted for the City Council meeting tonight and specifically regarding
MENDED COUNCIL ACTION referred to as Item (2) a. and b.
recommend 'Red Striping' of all curbs on Crenshaw Blvd south of Crest Rd.
do recommEmd any "parking reservation program" and recommend no parking reservation
b. recommend the establishment of a trailhead with parking at both:
1. City Hall as well as
2. of the Portuguese Bend Reserve (formerly known as Gateway Park).
Safe. welL
respectfully,
Olson
Place HOA and Neighborhood Watch Block Captain
Brandon Baek
Place resident and Neighborhood Watch
... not able speak before the Council tonight I, Thomas Olson, give my time to another HOAs
Don Douthwright if he needs additional time. Thank you.
Reference information from the City Council Agenda Report:
AGENDA TITLE: Consideration and possible action to implement measures mitigating impacts to residential
neighborhoods adjacent to Del Cerro Park and Portuguese Bend Reserve.
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RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION: (1) Review and provide input on the short-term solutions implemented by
Staff; (2) Direct Staff to pursue the following long-term solutions: a. Establish a parking reservation program on
Crenshaw Boulevard south of Crest Road; and b. Establish a trailhead with parking at the toe ofthe Portuguese Bend
Reserve (formerly known as Gateway Park); and (3) Review and provide direction on alternative long-term solutions
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August 18, 2020
Dear Honorable RPV City Mayor and Council Members,
Thank you for the Recommended Council Action for Long-Term solutions to mitigate
adverse impacts to residential neighborhoods adjacent to Del Cerro Park and
Portuguese Bend Reserve.
We at Park Place HOA and Park Place Neighborhood Watch ask that you implement
the following Long-Term Solutions:
a. RED STRIPE all of Crenshaw Boulevard (west and east sides) south of Crest
Road-and NOT the Reservation Program-, and
b. Establish at least Two (2) added Trailheads with parking for the Preserve at:
1. City Hall, and
2. Toe of the Portuguese Bend Reserve (formerly known as Gateway Park).
Discussion:
Stripping would eliminate the parking difficulties on Crenshaw south of Crest Rd
and substantially increase resident safety as well.
There are continuing adverse safety and illegal parking problems on Crenshaw over the
past many years.
Trying to establish a parking reservation program will not make parking less dangerous,
make more safe conditions, or decrease the illegal traffic flows et a!.
The problems with drivers on Crenshaw South of Crest have and would continue.
Further, a reservation system quite arguably would make the situation worse.
Specifically, and as examples in the past couple of days, on each of my last two
attempts to exit my residence turning onto Crenshaw, ! had 'visitor traffic' vehicles make
an abrupt U-turn in front of me. This occurred by vehicles being driven directly from the
West side of Crenshaw to the East side of Crenshaw in an illegal U-Turn. Each of
these vehicles U-turned directly into the single North bound lane and immediately
stopped at the Red-Curb to 'pick-up' other passengers. Each of these illegal U-turns
nearly caused two (2) separate vehicle collisions with my car and me.
I was forced to 'panic stop' for each as these 'visitor vehicles' that had turned very
quickly into the North bound lane-nearly hitting me and causing me to brake quickly.
THIS IS NOT SAFE and is a SIGNIFICANT LIABILITY for me as a resident as well as
for our HOAs and the City of RPV.
Moreover, vehicles also Start-N-Stop, and Double-Park, on Crenshaw-blocking traffic
flow in both the South and North lanes -equally not safe and big liability, too.
Residents are very concerned about the increased Liability of hitting a visitor vehicle or
person -· not only for the liability of the Resident, but also for the liability of our HOAs
and the City of RPV, too.
We residents want to be safe. We residents do not want the heightened risk or to be
liable by 'visitors' illegal or unsafe behavior-as is or by any reservation program.
E~tablishing added parking and entrances to the Preserve at City Hall and Toe of
Portuguese Bend (formerly Gateway Park) would spread parking around the Preserve
and significantly increase Resident Safety-especially for parking at City Hall where
there is significant capacity, easy entrance/exit and does not require driving on
Residential streets to access parking.
To confirm,
We residents on Park Place (especially neighbor family of 6 at end of cul-de-sac) ask
the City Council to approve and implement the two (2) stated Long-Term Solutions.
We are all in favor of the following TOP TWO (2) ALTERNATIVES:
1. RED STRI all of Crenshaw south of Crest, and
2. ADD two (2) more ENTRANCES and PARKING to the Preserve-one entrance at
City Hal!, with much parking, and a second entrance at the former Gateway Park aka
of Portuguese Bend.
Former City Manager, Doug Wilmore, stated often that there is plenty of room at City
Hall and, certainly more north of Crest, and certainly parking to make-up for any spaces
red-striped on Crenshaw.
It is dangerous on Crenshaw, now, and having any reservation 'system' would arguably
create a worse situation. Vehicles wait now. They double park. They make U-Turns
and park against Red Curbs. They cause Northbound (and Southbound too) traffic to
stop at red curbs or in the middle of Crenshaw.
Please, make Crenshaw safe by red-stripe Soutl1 of Crest Rd., and move ali stalls to
Crenshaw north of Crest, City Hal!, the Toe of Portuguese Bend and other. As Doug
Wilmore also stated, adding I moving parking to other areas at the Preserve was a City
goal to relieve our four (4) HOAs of continued dangers and liabilities.
As mentioned for appropriate reference documents,
It is advocated that if there may be any question(s) re: the use of Park Place street and
Del Cerro Park, the City should refer to the original Deed of Transfer, the Plan of
Utilization (POU), to which the City of RPV agreed. This Deed of Transfer, POU, is the
controlling document for use. The POU was, and is, the basis on which residents
made their decision to purchase and invest for the long-term. It is most important for
decisions regarding residents that the POU be a principal document especially as the
POU does not provide for parking on Park Place for the Park and/or for the Preserve.
We strongly recommend and request that the POU be referenced and used as a
controlling document regarding any use of Del Cerro and Park Place.
Most respectfully,
Thomas Olson
Park Place HOA and Neighborhood Watch Block Captain
Brandon Baek
Park Place resident and Neighborhood Watch
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Teresa Takaoka
Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:52 PM
Nathan Zweizig
FW: Traffic and trailhead access on Crenshaw-del cerro
From: Diane Blade <dbivinfo@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:47PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Traffic and trailhead access on Crenshaw-del cerro
Whom it may concern:
I would like to voice my opinion on the situation that we have regarding the traffic and tourists on a regular basis seven days a
week from five in the morning until10 o'clock at night on the two trail heads .... Del Cerro and at the Rattlesnake Trail.
As a resident of Island view I find it very, very distressing that we have this amount of traffic, There are people coming in all day
long ... it is changing our neighborhood ... is in changing the environment we live in. and it will eventually change the property
values in this area.
I am disturbed that we have public parking signs in our area. we have an electron signs telling people where the trail heads are
and that they can park along Crenshaw outside of our neighborhood. there is an electronic sign that says there is additional
parking at RPV City Hall ... but there are no direction and there is no address given. when you go to City Hall there is no big sign
welcoming them and telling them that they can park there and then explaining where the trail heads are.
1 would greatly appreciate it if you could share that information through whatever means you might have so that our
neighborhoods are giving a little bit of relief !
I understand that this issue will be on tonight's agenda.
I also understand that you are considering the possibility of painting all the curbs on Crenshaw RED south crest!
That would be a great way to start!!! At least the auto would be reduced.
TheReserves are huge and there are many other trail heads. please help find a way to make the population/hikers aware of
that and share the wealth so to speak
Thank you for your consideration and help !
The Blades
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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
HONORABLE MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
CITY CLERK
AUGUST 17, 2020
ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
Attached are revisions/additions and/or amendments to the agenda material received
through Monday afternoon for the Tuesday, August 18, 2020 City Council meeting:
Item No.
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Description of Material
Email from Sunshine
Email from Sheri Hastings
Email exchange between Senior Administrative Analyst Lozano and
Fred Weiner; Email exchanges between City Manager Mihranian
and: Herb Stark; Marty Foster; Donald Bell; Emails from: Bridget and
John Stillo; Suzanne and Larry Sobel
Respectfully submitted,
L:\LATE CORRESPONDENCE\2020 Cover Sheets\20200818 additions revisions to agenda thru Monday.docx
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SUNSHINE <sunshinerpv@aol.com>
Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:03 PM
CC; CityCierk
jackpharris88@gmail.com; professorohlaker@gmail.com; bzzask@gmail.com; gardner4
@earthlink.net; josephollivier@gmail.com; pbrc1 @verizon.net
August 18, 2020 Council Agenda, Item I. Ban rental prohibitions
Dear Mr. Mayor and Council Members,
Once again, Staff is Recommending a "done deal" without providing a thorough analysis of all of the
consequences. Ordinarily; I would support AB3182 because it would put a ban on an infringement of the
rights of private property owners. But, it doesn't. Shouldn't we be writing to our Senator? I would support
AB3182 if it were modified with a statement of purpose being to ban all such infringements. But, the draft
letter does not ask for that. See the following.
I agree with this objection ... "The bill is also problematic because it leaves unclear what exactly would
"unreasonably" restrict rental prohibitions."
What has not been analyzed is the level of "local control" that you would support. Do remember that all
Zoning Laws infringe on private property rights to some degree. And, every "law" which imposes a
behavior modification/restriction includes the cost of enforcement.
Given that our Zoning Codes and OFFICIAL ZONING MAP have not yet been updated to comply with the
updated General Plan, (not even a draft has been presented to Council), "one size fits all" is a pretty lame
objection. Staff's Recommendation is "problematic" because it does not introduce for discussion, a
statement of what our Council considers to be "reasonable rental prohibitions".
In case you didn't know, the City of Rancho Palos Verdes is rather notorious for not assisting HOA's with
enforcing their existing CC&R's and Architectural Standards. Once again, where is a description of the
"downside of doing nothing"?
Why no CC to CHOA?
Oops! I meant to stop asking questions. Staff doesn't answer them.
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SUNSHINE 310-377-8761
August 18, 2020
Philip Ting
California State Assembly
State Capitol, Rm. 6026
Sacramento, CA 95814
SUBJECT: Notice of Opposition to AB 3182
Dear Assemblymember Ting:
Via Email The Honorable
The City of Rancho Palos Verdes opposes AB 3182, which would bar homeowners associations (HOAs)
from prohibiting home rentals, including rentals of accessory dwelling units (ADUs). This legislation would
not only infringe on the rights of private property owners, but invalidate the voices of voting HOA members.
AB 3182 would impose a "one size fits all" approach on tens of thousands of HOA neighborhoods, taking
away decisionmaking that is best left to homeowners and governing board members. The bill is also
problematic because it leaves unclear what exactly would "unreasonably" restrict rental prohibitions. For
these reasons, the City of Rancho Palos Verdes opposes AB 3182.
Sincerely,
John Cruikshank Mayor
cc: AI Muratsuchi, Assembly Member, 66th Assembly District Ben Allen, Senator, 26th State Senate
District Jeff Kiernan, League of California Cities Meg Desmond, League of California Cities Marcel
Rodarte, California Contract Cities Association Rancho Palos Verdes City Council Ara Mihranian, City
Manager Karina Banales, Deputy City Manager
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Sheri Hastings <sherihastings@yahoo.com>
Monday, August 17, 2020 1:05 PM
CityCierk; jvillalbando@rpvca.gov
Fw: Emergency Preparedness Letter. 8/18/20 Council Agenda Item J
I meant to also copy you. Thank you!
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From: Sheri Hastings <sherihastings@yahoo.com>
To: cc@rpvca.gov <cc@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020, 12:24:10 PM PDT
Subject: Emergency Preparedness Letter. 8/18/20 Council Agenda Item J
Dear City Council
The draft letter is helpful for our individual properties. But we also need information to prepare the
community as a whole for evacuation in the event of an emergency.
There is a directive in the General Plan that that Public Works Department is the lead agent to "preserve
and enhance the trail connections" according to the TNP. Since the City has acquired title to the
underlying properties around me, who is the specific person who has the responsibility to get the details
from the Fire Department and propose the Public Works Department's response?
We all need the same person to be answering our questions about when and how we evacuate. The
PUMP does not cover this need.
Thank you very much for your attention to this.
Sincerely,
Sheri Hastings
1 0 Vanderlip Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
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Monday, August 17, 2020 1:38 PM
CityCierk
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Nathan, it was nice to speak with you a few moments ago. Please submit my comments on the Nature
Preserve and Del Cerro parking to the City Council for their meeting tomorrow night. Also, I copied Katie
Lozano for her information.
Thank you very much for your assistance,
Fred Weiner
RPV Resident
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From: Katie Lozano <katiel@rpvca .gov>
To: Fred Weiner <fweiner08@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020, 04:42 :00 PM PDT
Subject: RE: Del Cerro Park Parking Signage
Hello Fred,
Thank you very much for the inventory and recommendations! I like those thoughts and idea and will definitely keep
them on hand as the project picks up again. I placed responses below in blue.
Thank you,
Katie
From: Fred Weiner <fwe in er08@ya h oo .com >
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:00AM
To: Katie Lozano <Katiel@rpv ca .gov>
Subject: Fw: Del Cerro Park Parking Signage
Hello Katie ,
It was nice to speak with you yesterday . I'm happy you are doing well!
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Parking Permit, where to park and avoid diverting City and Lomita Sheriff's staff resources for parking enforcement and issuance
of citations.
Thank you . I will keep this recommendation on hand .
Electronic Message Board Trailer
In our recent telephone conversation, I mentioned prior to m id/late 2019 an Electronic Message Board trailer was located on
north side of Park Place across from the first section of parking spaces adjacent to Del Cerro Park . The Message Board was
very visible and indicated something to the effect that a City Parking Permit was required, violators would be cited , and the
public should park on Crenshaw Blvd .
In or about mid/late 2019 , the Message Board trailer was removed from Del Cerro Park/Park Place .
In early 2020 , the Message Board trailer reappeared , but was located on the south side of the driveway entering Park Place, in a
somewhat obstructed area near the large wooden Del Cerro Park sign. Sometimes I observed cars entering the driveway from
Crenshaw Blvd. to Park Place. The drivers seemingly did not see the Message Board and they parked in the spaces adjacent to
Del Cerro Park, even though they did not have a City Parking Permit.
Recently I was happy to see the Message Board trailer had been relocated to the northwest side of Park Place across from the
first couple of parking spaces adjacent to Del Cerro Park. I think the current location of the Electronic Message Board is very
visible to drivers as they approach the parking spaces adjacent to Del Cerro Park. The message relative to the required parking
permits and related information has been changed to reflect current City policies relative to the covid19 health crisis .
Correct.
Del Cerro Park Signage
I took photos of the various signs on Park Place for your information but, due to the poor picture quality , they are not included
here. However, I have attempted to describe the essential information on the various signs (excluding RPV and other
government agencies' applicable code sections , contact phone numbers, etc).
On the north side of Park Place the curb is painted red and there are three posts each with a sign in red letters "No Parking
Any Time" ...
On the south side of Park Place . near the parking spaces adjacent to Del Cerro Park, there are 9 sign posts with signs on
various subjects. Only 2 of the 9 posts have signs indicating "Parking By Permit Only" (also in red letters).
To the left of Parking Space 1 the sign indicates : Unauthorized vehicles parked in designated accessible spaces not displaying
distinguishing placards or special license places issued for persons with disabilities will be towed away at owners' expense
On the Park grass area between pa rking spaces1 and 2 , there is a large City of Rancho Palos Verdes sign with the City's logo
(brown background) indicating : No radio controlled or motorized models. Peninsula Silent Flyers Members by permit only
Parasailing and Hang Gliding Prohibited from City owned land Violators will be prosecuted
Parking space 3, there are no signs posted .
Between parking spaces 4 and 5 there are 3 signs on the same post:
Top : Relatively small sign with red letters "Parking By Permit Only"
Middle : 3-hour parking with Resident ial Recreation Permit between one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset.
Restrictions do not apply to Park Place Resident Guest Permit
Bottom : Park Place Residents Guest Permits may park up to 72 hours
Between parking spaces 6-7 , there are no signs posted .
Grass strip between spaces 7 and 8 has 2 separate posts, one in front of the other, each with different signs .
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Ara Mihranian
Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:37 PM
'Herb Stark'; CityCierk
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RE: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
8-15-2020 Letter to the City Council.docx
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and recommendations on this important City issue.
As you know, the City Council has been addressing this issue for several years now and has made incremental improvements.
However, the popularity of the Preserve continues to grow because of social media, and the recent health orders associated
with COVID-19 has only exasperated the adverse impacts experienced by neighboring residents and the crowds that continue
to show up especially on the weekends. It is for this reason, that City Staff have been implementing short-term measures since
late-June to alleviate the congestion specifically around Del Cerro and the entrance to the Portuguese Bend Reserve.
Tuesday's agenda item is specifically focusing on Del Cerro/Portuguese Bend Reserve, not because there aren't similar impacts
in other areas of the City (i.e. Forrestal Reserve and Abalone Cove) but because this is where the greatest impacts are being
experienced by adjacent residents at this time. Mitigation measures for other areas may be addressed by the City Council at a
later time.
The visitor entry reservation system you are recommending, and as implemented at Eaton Canyon, has merit to it. Staff has
researched what the City of LA implemented there to see if and how it can effectively be implemented in Rancho Palos Verdes
at specific areas, such as Portuguese Bend, Forrestal and Abalone Cove Reserves. And it can (but perhaps with some
limitations). However, when considering the concerns raised by the residents adjacent to Del Cerro Park/Portuguese Bend,
their recommended solutions differ. That is because the most significant impact they are experiencing is associated with
vehicle and traffic congestion along Crenshaw Blvd., south of Crest Road. I have attached a comment letter submitted this
morning to the City Council from the Del Cerro HOA to shed some light on their concerns.
Staff's recommendation for City Council's consideration is intended to balance the concerns being raised by the residents most
impacted and the general operations of the Preserve for both residents and non-residents who use the Preserve at this specific
entry point. The visitor entry system you are recommending is included in the staff report for the City Council's
consideration. It may be the City Council's desire to begin implementing, what staff is referring to as long-term solutions, in
phases to monitorthe progress and success of each of these tools that are all intended to help alleviate impacts and preserve
the community's quality of life. Which we are all in agreement is paramount to this fast-growing issue.
I also want to comment on the short-term solutions being implement at the moment. Over the past several weeks, Staff has
come to realize that various groups or organizations have been posting information on social media that has influenced where
public go when seeking recreational destinations in Rancho Palos Verdes. For years, the City did not participate in messaging
on social media with the intent to steer and discourage visitors from coming to Rancho Palos Verdes. It is now apparent, that
the unintended consequence may have led to the popularity of Del Cerro/Portuguese Bend, and even Forrestal, as a
destination. To that point, the City is taking ownership of these sites and the messaging posted on social media to influence
where the visitors should and should not go (and to a certain degree discourage visiting the area due to constraints i.e. parking,
etc.). A concerted effort is being implemented to direct visitors to areas that can accommodate such activity that is away from
residential neighborhoods such as Alta Vicente (City Hall).
I hope this provides some added perspective to the staff recommendations.
And again, thank you for your input. I am certain it will assist the City Council in navigating through this issue.
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From: Herb Stark [mailto:pt17stearman@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:44 AM
To: CityCierk <CityCierk@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
My recommendation is to implement a reservation system to limit the number of visitors to the preserve
and not a parking reservation system that will just move the cars to park in other areas.
Cory Linda is wrong, the preserve was created to preserve the habitat and open space for passive
recreational use and not to jam the maximum number of people into the area with the resultant damage to
the habitat.
The only way to do that is to limit the number of visitors.
The staff report spends a lot of time talking about the Del Cerro issue and does not address Ladera
Linda. The residents have been working with staff to direct all preserve parking into the Park parking lots
by redlining Forrestal and putting No Preserve Parking signs at the entrance to the residential area. This
has worked very well up to now. The problem is that on the weekends these parking lots are full. Any shift
in parking at Del Cerro will only shift the parking to Ladera Linda overflowing into the residential area.
Background
Parking around both the Preserve and Abalone Cove have been overrun with visitors on the weekend. As
a result visitors have been parking in the local neighborhoods disrupting the quality of life of the local
residents. Red no parking areas have only pushed the people down the road.
Cory Linda, Parks and Recreation Department Director, has stated in the past that the Preserve can handle
more visitors all we have to do is find a way to park them.
Doug Willmore, past City Manager, has in the past rejected any sort of registration system as there are more
than 50 entrances to the Preserve making it difficult to implement. What they are not telling is that the two
major public access points are at Del Cerro and Ladera Linda and the others which are in residential
neighborhoods. The other issue that they use to reject the registration system is that the restrictions on the
Preserve require that both residents and nonresidents be treated the same. This means that you cannot
charge nonresidents without charging residents, who would reject the concept since they are already paying
taxes to maintain the Preserve.
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Proposal
The Ladera Linda HOA has long proposed implementing a registration system to limit the number of
visitors. Now that the Abalone Cove parking is being overwhelmed forcing visitors to park in the residential
neighborhoods the proposed registration system can be expanded to include Abalone Cove.
To overcome the issue of treating residents and nonresidents the same, the registration would be free and
only be required on the weekend and holidays.
The system would be modeled after the Eton Canyon system, see attached, where timed entry would be
available in three hour increments and cover one car and up to four people. Visitors would be required to go
online to the City's webpage and sign up for a time slot. In Abalone Cove the number of visitors would be
limited to the number of parking slots. At Del Cerro the number of visitors would be limited to the available
parking from the entrance to the Crest on Crenshaw for example. At Ladera Linda the number of visitors
would be limited to the number of slots in the Ladera Linda Park. All reservations would be required to be
made the day before the visit. No same day registrations would be permitted.
Visitors would be required to show proof of registration either on a mobile phone or print out. All registrations
would be recorded at the time of entrance to the Preserve or Abalone Cove so that if someone copies a
registration and tries to get in after someone has already used the registration it would be rejected and
entrance denied.
As for the other 50 or so entrances, spot checks would be made inside the Preserve and Abalone Cove by
the Rangers, volunteers and staff. If someone is caught without a registration they will be cited and
fined. The proceeds would be used to offset the cost of the registration system.
Herb Stark
Rancho Palos Verdes
31 0-541-6646
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Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
Thank you for your continued willingness to address the traffic and parking conditions that
persist near the entrance of the Burma Rd. trailhead at the end of Crenshaw Blvd.
After 8 years of continuous efforts by the City Staff and City Council to ameliorate conditions, we
find that conditions improve after each new set of parking restrictions and signage is
implemented. However, as more people become aware of the Palos Verdes Nature Preserve,
the number of visitors and the associated impacts to nearby residents continue to increase,
reducing the benefits derived from the City's efforts over time. And the Safer at Home measures
to control the spread of the COVID pandemic have exacerbated already difficult conditions.
While the pandemic may abate at some point in the future, it is highly likely that the increase in
visitors resulting from it will continue because of the unique attractiveness of the area.
Traffic/Parking Conditions at End of Crenshaw Blvd. (South of Crest Rd.)
We know that you are very aware of the conditions. However, we would like to briefly share
some quantitative data that indicate the magnitude of the problems the surrounding neighbors
encounter. Much of the information was derived by one of our residents using video footage
from his security camera. We would be glad to discuss how the information was developed if
you have any questions.
• Crenshaw Blvd. south of Crest Rd. is a 2-lane dead-end street that services 256 homes
(in Del Cerro, Island View, PV Park Place and Rancho Crest HOAs).
• Approximately, 8,000 vehicles travel Crenshaw from Crest Rd. to the end at Seacrest
weekly. Since all of the surrounding streets are cui-de-sacs with no outlet, those vehicles
must then travel out of the area, doubling the number of vehicle trips along that corridor
to 16,000.
• Up to 2,000 vehicles per day arrive in the area on weekends. Up to 1 ,200 vehicles arrive
per day on weekdays.
• From 6 am to 8 pm, the 41 parking spots on Crenshaw between the Island View
entrance and Park Place are filled 92% of the time on weekdays and 98% on weekends.
All of the 41 spots are typically filled by 6:00 am on weekends and by 6:30 am on
weekdays.
• Because of the high parking spot fill rate, visitors frequently stop their vehicles in either
the southbound or northbound traffic lane while waiting for a parking spot to be emptied,
forcing residents and their guests to move into the opposing lane of traffic to pass
through the area. This is particularly true where Crenshaw narrows toward the end and
visibility of vehicles exiting Park Place is blocked by the parked cars.
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• Visitors also stop and wait for parking spots to become available in the parking area next
to St. John Fisher Church. Since there is a median separating the two lanes of traffic
there, residents are unable to pass around the waiting vehicles and have no option but
to wait until the car is moved.
• Visitors waiting for a parking spot often speed forward or even drive rapidly in reverse to
obtain a vacated spot.
• Visitors waiting in the northbound lane often cross the opposing traffic to make a U-turn
to obtain a parking spot. In addition, visitors who are leaving will cross the southbound
lane and make a U-turn to leave the area in the northbound direction.
• Visitors also regularly make U-turns at the end of Crenshaw and at multiple intersections
within Del Cerro.
• At the same time, there is heavy pedestrian traffic from the 171 total parking places
spilling into the street. (The 171 parking places include those along Crenshaw south of
Crest Rd., Park Place, Crest Rd. east of Crenshaw, and the east side of Crenshaw north
of Crest Rd.)
Dangerous Traffic Results
As a result of the visitors' actions, the traffic conditions are very dangerous. Residents' entrance
into and exits from the neighborhood are impeded by vehicles stopped in traffic lanes and they
must dodge unpredictable U-turns along the way-while trying to maintain a safe distance from
pedestrians. This is all occurring along a street that has a 40 mph speed limit.
Indeed, while driving through the parking area at the end of Crenshaw, one of our neighbors
was broadsided by a vehicle making a U-turn while exiting from a parking spot, resulting in
serious injury to a passenger.
Residential Quality of life Impacts
The preserve is open from one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset (currently 5:15 am
to 8:40 pm). Parking is prohibited on Crenshaw during the hours when the preserve is closed.
The residents whose properties abut Crenshaw Blvd., the Crenshaw Extension and the Burma
Rd. trail are disturbed by incessant noise from before 5 am to 9:30 pm every day of the week-
including constant horn honk alarm activations, car alarms, car doors slamming, loud music and
loud voices.
Since a gate that keeps people from entering when the preserve is closed has not been
installed yet, many visitors still arrive well beyond the preserve posted hours, park on Crenshaw
and enter the nature preserve or Del Cerro Park for late-night parties.
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All of this activity and noise creates extended disturbances to the peace and quiet of the
neighborhood.
Del Cerro HOA Recommendations
We request that the City Council take the following actions:
• Place the highest priority on installing the trailhead gates at the Burma Rd. and
Rattlesnake Trail trail heads as soon as possible. The gates were approved by the City
Council in July 2018 and January 2019, respectively.
• Approve the opening of the two trailhead gates from 7 am to sunset. We expect that the
closure of the gates will substantially reduce the early morning and late night noise
currently being experienced by reducing the motivation for visitors to arrive when the
gates are closed without requiring significant enforcement. The current design of the
gates will still allow visitors to the preserve to enjoy the sunset and then leave at their
convenience, but not allow people to enter once the gates are closed. The gates will also
enable enforcement of preserve closures due to rain or during periods of high fire
danger.
• Approve the elimination of parking on Crenshaw Blvd. south of Crest Rd., while
redirecting visitors to available space on Crenshaw north of Crest Rd. (including the west
side adjacent to the Art Center) and Crestridge (west of Crenshaw). While 65 parking
spaces would be eliminated from the area adjacent to homes and St. John Fisher
Church, more than that number of parking spaces are available, but not currently used,
on the west side of Crenshaw next to the Art Center and on Crestridge -most of which
are no farther from the trail than visitors are already walking.
• Approve the opening of a new primary trailhead away from RPV residents adjacent to
PV Drive South (i.e., Gateway Park). This would make a large segment of the preserve
much more accessible to residents and visitors, yet would be a significant distance from
homes to minimize any negative impacts. Parking would be much closer to where trails
begin -and therefore more convenient for visitors. A trailhead off PV Drive South would
also have the benefit of enabling preserve visitors to begin their hikes at the bottom of
the preserve, hike uphill, then return to their cars by walking downhill when they are
getting weary, reducing the likelihood that hikers may be overcome by exhaustion.
• Continue City Staff's efforts to actively promote access to the Alta Vicente Reserve trails
adjacent to the Civic Center with ample available parking and improve the amenities
there.
• Use search engine optimization techniques to direct internet searches to promote the
trails at City Hall and a new trailhead at Gateway Park (as soon as it becomes
available). This will undoubtedly help to direct newcomers to trailheads that can
accommodate larger numbers of visitors.
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• Coordinate the Staff's efforts to promote Alta Vicente Reserve and Gateway Park and
optimize internet searches with the PVP Land Conservancy to assure consistent
messaging.
Conclusions
The above actions will help to provide immediate relief to weary residents. We believe that red
curbing Crenshaw Blvd. is the option with the greatest immediate and sustainable positive
impact to the surrounding neighborhoods. It can be implemented with minimal cost and, most
importantly, it is a self-regulating solution that requires minimal enforcement. We have also
noted that visitors seem to avoid parking next to red curbs more than they comply with posted
No Parking signs.
Appropriate signage/message boards on Crenshaw and Crest Rd. can be used to notify current
preserve visitors who already use the Burma Rd. and Rattlesnake Trail trailheads (and therefore
would not be searching the internet for trail information) of the additional available parking north
of Crest Rd. and the trails at the Civic Center. This signage, in conjunction with website
information available to potential newcomers, will help to steer visitors in the near term to the
Civic Center.
As indicated in the staff report, enforcement of parking violations has been somewhat effective
(with emphasis placed primarily on violations of permit parking on Park Place). However, up to
now, enforcement has generally not been effective in addressing traffic problems on Crenshaw
-and, honestly, having our deputies spending significant time enforcing the traffic or parking
rules is not a cost-effective use of those resources.
The overall size of the nature preserve is large enough to accommodate the current total
number of visitors. Opening or expanding access at two additional widely dispersed locations
(with substantial parking away from residents and adequate amenities) will also help to spread
the visitors over a wider area and reduce negative impacts that neighboring communities and
the preserve itself experience.
It should be noted that all of the open space areas mentioned in the staff report that City Staff
deemed comparable to the Palos Verdes Nature Preserve in size, beauty and recreational
opportunity have multiple parking lots dedicated to public access.
Parking Reservation System
Based on our current understanding of the parking reservation system, Del Cerro residents see
several drawbacks to the approach.
• It is not self-regulating and would require a continuous high level of enforcement-and
be substantially more expensive than red curbing.
• While it could reduce the number of vehicles arriving in the area, it would not eliminate
the traffic hazards of U-turns into and out of parking places, and people waiting in the
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traffic lanes for a place to park. The current plan addresses parking enforcement, but not
on traffic enforcement.
• As currently envisioned, the recommended parking reservation system would not reduce
the early morning/late night noise or control vehicle traffic on weekdays.
• It would take longer to implement -and the neighborhood needs relief from the
problems urgently.
Thank you for your consideration of these requests. And many thanks to the City Manager and
Staff for their diligent and creative efforts in working with us to find necessary solutions.
Sincerely,
The Del Cerro HOA Board
Kathy & AI Edgerton
Gregory MacDonald
Miriam & Pete Varend
Dion Hatch
Bharathi Singh
Mark Kernen
Amy & Jeff Wang
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trail users to maintain
physical distancing of six
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statement said.
"In May, an overwhelm-
ing influx of visitors not
adhering to the require-
ments for face coverings
and physical distancing
forced the closure of the
Eaton Canyon Natural
Area."
Timed entry reserva-
tions will be available for
three-hour increments:
8-11 a.m., 11 a.m.-2 p.m.,
and 2-5 p.m. Each time slot
is being limited to 85 res-
ervations to prevent over-
crowding.
Reservations must be
made the day before a visit.
No same-day reservations
will be allowed.
No reservations were
available Saturday,
the department an-
nounced.
Each reservation will al-
low entry for one vehicle or
up to four people walking
in and should be limited
to members of the same
household to prevent the
spread of COVID-19, ac-
cording to county parks
offtcials.
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Eaton Canyon Natura! Area in Pasadena has reopened but
limited to reserved, tlrned entries of 85 people at a time.
IF YOU GO
Trail visitors must adhere to the follow the requirements
when visiting Eaton Canyon Natural Area and all natural
areas and trails within Los Angeles County:
• The use of coolers. umbrellas, shade tents, barbecues or
chairs ls not allowed.
• Passive recreation (lounging, picnics, sunbathing, etc.)
Is restricted. Only active recreation (hiking, walking. run-
ning, etc.) wfll .be allowed. Umlt your t!rne to less than 10
minutes at destination spots.
• Maintain a physical distance of six feet or more. Masks
that cover the nose, mouth and chin are required In build-
Ings, parking lots, trailheads, when passing people on the
trails and at destination spots. VIsitors may be asked to
leave If there are too many people to allow for the required
physical distance.
• Be prepared. Not all restrooms are open to the public.
Bring drinking water, soap/sanitizer. and pack out all
trash.
To make a free reservation, visitors will need to log in or
create a free account to complete the timed entry reser-
vation. visit the Los Angeles County Department of Parks
and Recreation online registration website at https://
reservatlons.lacounty.gov.
For the complete list of COVID-19guidelines, visit the
LA County Parks website at https://parks.lacounty.gov/
covld-19.
The main' entrance to
Eaton Canyon Natural
Area, at 1750 N. Altadena
Drive in Pasadena, will
be the only point of entry
open at this time.
Trail visitors .will need
to show proof of their res-
ervation -either on a mo-
bile device or printout -
and photo identification at
the entrance.
No entry or waiting at
the entrance wm be per-
mitted without a reserva-
tion.
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Sunday, August 16, 2020 3:09 PM
Ara Mihranian
Cc: Herb Stark; CityCierk; CC; Mickey Radich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Don Bell; Gary Randall;
jessica vlaco
Subject: Re: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
Ara,
Thank you as always for the granular detail you provide with such transparency on all city matters.
The traffic hazards posed by visitors at the end of Crenshaw are serious indeed and mitigation is mandatory.
The use of Gateway Park as an entrance to the trails in my opinion poses a greater risk to far more people than is seen
on Crenshaw.
Today, we see the usual long waiting line at Abalone Cove. That congestion will be multiplied many times over as
visitors in their cars attempt to access the trails off ofPVDS.
The maneuvers reported by the Del Cerro community would be much more dangerous if executed on PVDS.
PVDS is a major lifeline for emergency vehicles and first responders of all kinds. Let us preserve this vital arterial for
RPV residents who so dearly need it.
Only limiting visitors to the preserve will protect our residents and drivers while protecting the trails from overuse.
Respectfully
Marty Foster
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On Aug 16, 2020, at 1 :57 PM, Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Marty,
The City is in receipt of your email and will provide it to the City Council as late correspondence in advance of
Tuesday's meeting.
Since you responded to an email Herb Stark sent the City Council, I have attached my response that I sent a
short while ago (see attachment).
Best,
Ara
From: martha foster [mailto:martycrna@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:14 PM
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To: Herb Stark <pt17stearman@gmail.com>
Cc: CityCierk <CityCierk@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
It makes eminent sense for such a system to be put in place.
With what seems to be 1 OOOs of visitors every weekend, I shudder to think of any sort of disaster when
all first responders would be stretched so thin.
Respectfully
Marty Foster
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Herb Stark <pt17stearman(ci)gmail.com> wrote:
My recommendation is to implement a reservation system to limit the number of
visitors to the preserve and not a parking reservation system that will just move
the cars to park in other areas.
Cory Linda is wrong, the preserve was created to preserve the habitat and open
space for passive recreational use and not to jam the maximum number of
people into the area with the resultant damage to the habitat.
The only way to do that is to limit the number of visitors.
The staff report spends a lot of time talking about the Del Cerro issue and does
not address Ladera Linda. The residents have been working with staff to direct
all preserve parking into the Park parking lots by redlining Forrestal and putting
No Preserve Parking signs at the entrance to the residential area. This has
worked very well up to now. The problem is that on the weekends these
parking lots are full. Any shift in parking at Del Cerro will only shift the parking
to Ladera Linda overflowing into the residential area.
Background
Parking around both the Preserve and Abalone Cove have been overrun with
visitors on the weekend. As a result visitors have been parking in the local
neighborhoods disrupting the quality of life of the local residents. Red no parking
areas have only pushed the people down the road.
Cory Linda, Parks and Recreation Department Director, has stated in the past
that the Preserve can handle more visitors all we have to do is find a way to park
them.
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Doug Willmore, past City Manager, has in the past rejected any sort of registration
system as there are more than 50 entrances to the Preserve making it difficult to
implement. What they are not telling is that the two major public access points
are at Del Cerro and Ladera Linda and the others which are in residential
neighborhoods. The other issue that they use to reject the registration system is
that the restrictions on the Preserve require that both residents and nonresidents
be treated the same. This means that you cannot charge nonresidents without
charging residents, who would reject the concept since they are already paying
taxes to maintain the Preserve.
Proposal
The Ladera Linda HOA has long proposed implementing a registration system to
limit the number of visitors. Now that the Abalone Cove parking is being
overwhelmed forcing visitors to park in the residential neighborhoods the
proposed registration system can be expanded to include Abalone Cove.
To overcome the issue of treating residents and nonresidents the same, the
registration would be free and only be required on the weekend and holidays.
The system would be modeled after the Eton Canyon system, see attached,
where timed entry would be available in three hour increments and cover one car
and up to four people. Visitors would be required to go online to the City's
webpage and sign up for a time slot. In Abalone Cove the number of visitors
would be limited to the number of parking slots. At Del Cerro the number of
visitors would be limited to the available parking from the entrance to the Crest
on Crenshaw for example. At Ladera Linda the number of visitors would be
limited to the number of slots in the Ladera Linda Park. All reservations would
be required to be made the day before the visit. No same day registrations would
be permitted.
Visitors would be required to show proof of registration either on a mobile phone
or print out. All registrations would be recorded at the time of entrance to the
Preserve or Abalone Cove so that if someone copies a registration and tries to
get in after someone has already used the registration it would be rejected and
entrance denied.
As for the other 50 or so entrances, spot checks would be made inside the
Preserve and Abalone Cove by the Rangers, volunteers and staff. If someone is
caught without a registration they will be cited and fined. The proceeds would be
used to offset the cost of the registration system.
Herb Stark
Rancho Palos Verdes
31 0-541-6646
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Hi Don,
Ara Mihranian
Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:04 PM
'Donald Bell'; CityCierk
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RE: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
RE: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
The City is in receipt of your email recommending the visitor entry reservation system. It will be provided to the City Council in
advance of Tuesday's meeting.
I have attached my response to Herb Stark's email regarding a similar recommendation for your review.
I touch on the City's response to social media.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
Ara
From: Donald Bell [mailto:dwbrpv@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 12:31 PM
To: CityCierk <CityCierk@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Home Bell <dwbrpv@gmail.com>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: August 18th City Council Meeting REGULAR BUSINESS: Item 1 Parking Reservation System
Dear City Council Members,
Please consider that the need for a reservation system is a real and growing requirement. Rancho Palos Verdes is
increasingly a destination of choice for many in the Greater Los Angeles Area. We are becoming a Malibu as visitors
regularly overwhelm all Oceanside parking and clifftop view areas. Weekend access to Palos Verdes Drive South
from connecting streets is becoming more unsafe on weekends than it was pre-Covid on weekday mornings and
afternoons. But you are being asked to approve a wrong and inadequate reservation system.
Our City Parks, Trails, Views and Scenery are promoted on social media, in newspapers, and by organizations. Some
areas have been (think Del Cerro) and are increasingly (think Abalone Cove) over run by visitors. Simply trying to
control parking will not alleviate the demand by visitors to gain access to our beaches, the Preserve, or other desirable
venues.
You should be thinking of a people reservation system as a means to preserve the reasons most (maybe all) have
chosen Rancho Palos Verdes as our choice for our homes. We did not come here to be impacted by visitors who are
now making our weekdays and increasingly weekends a noisy, crowded, and abused experience.
Has the city ever taken a census of the number of vehicles in the Parks, Preserve Entrances, and neighborhood streets
comparing a normal weekday morning to a Saturday or Sunday afternoon? I am confident that you will count
hundreds of cars and thousands of visitors. (Timed satellite images might be a reasonable method to take a census. I
know I personally have counted the 516 official parking spots that support sunset oceanside views along the coast
using Google Earth Maps. By the way, those oceanside parking spots are now exceeded every weekend by visitors
and the overflow into neighborhoods is worsening.) I am ~so confident that a traffic study for Palos Verdes Drive/
South on a weekend will show a dramatic increase in drive though traffic. The bicycle traffic has also increased with
a weekend morning drive along sections (landslide, Palos Verdes East, and Rotunda to San Pedro) presenting an often
seriously dangerous situation.
I believe the City Council and Recreation & Parks Department needs to be charged with controlling visitors to
the city. Just letting the crowds invade, is a dereliction of responsibility to the citizenry.
• There must be a people reservation system for entrance into the Preserve areas with a quota system established
to protect both the Preserve as well as our Community.
• You must take action at minimum to begin a people reservation system with flexibility to be extended to all
parks and overlooks as need is defined to protect our finite resources (and sanity).
• Reservations are not a novel or revolutionary concept. It is used to control visitor volume in National, State,
and Local Public Land.
The city is already too late in responding to the existing situation. With respect to Del Cerro, a working solution has
been for years derelict in establishing a reservation system limiting access into the preserve. Come on -there is not a
parking problem that needs controlled at Del Cerro! Is it too hard to acknowledge that too many people are
attempting to enter the preserve? A funnel rather than a gate is needed.
Thinking that creating a Gateway Parking area will have any impact at Del Cerro is ludicrous. If Gateway is created,
it will just attract more visitors to Sacred Cove. You will just shorten their hike. Simply look at the line of cars that
waits for entrance into Abalone Cove on weekends to begin their walk to Sacred Cove. I do not know what evidence
exists to demonstrate that a person would willingly park at the Gateway area to begin a steep, rugged, uphill hike to
enter the Lower Burma Road trail versus parking at Del Cerro to hike downhill on a decent trail with spectacular
view. What bicyclist, stroller waker, out of shape individual or family with young children would want to start their
hike up hill to reach the Preserve? The same evidence needs to be shown that attempts to move parking to Upper
Point Vicente has any chance to work -the distance is just too far.
All R&P social media is doing is making more people aware of another wonderful place for them to come to our city
to visit. A better message to benefit residents is one to discourage folks from coming. Change the message to warn
of ticks, rattlesnakes, risk of dehydration, fire and trail dangers requiring rescue. R&P is triggering decisions to come
to our city. Why are we taking action to steer visitors to an area by attempting to make it more attractive? As a local
resident, I now do all possible to avoid many areas of the city on weekends due to visiting crowds. Start publicizing
with photos and visitor comments about inability to find parking, crowded, dirty and damaged trails, and similar
negative facts. Those stories are not exaggerations of the existing situation.
I respectfully ask you to reject Staff recommendations and direct them to initiate a Preserve Access Reservation
System with future application to other City venues.
Sincerely
Don Bell
3571 Vigilance Drive
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From: Ara Mihranian
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:51 PM
To: CityCierk; Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Katie Lozano
Subject: FW: Parking solutions near Del Cerro Park and Portuguese Bend Reserve
Late correspondence.
Ara Michael Mihranian
City Manager
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
310-544-5202 (telephone)
310-544-5293 (fax)
a ram@ rpvca .gov
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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:31 AM
To: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Parking solutions near Del Cerro Park and Portuguese Bend Reserve
Dear Ara,
We live in the Island View subdivision in Rancho Palos Verdes. When we purchased our home there were never any cars
parked on Crenshaw Boulevard between Crest Road and Del Cerro Park. It was a quiet street with mountain and ocean views.
Now we deal with a daily deluge of people who come to hike on the Burma Road Trail and Rattlesnake Trail. Cars do multiple u-
turns trying to find a place to park and make sudden stops when someone vacates a spot. There is more traffic as we negotiate
a left turn out of the Island View neighborhood onto Crenshaw Blvd. As hikers try to parallel park on Crenshaw Boulevard in
front of St. John Fisher Church, we frequently have to wait behind their cars as they turn on their flashers waiting for someone
to leave and then we wait for them to parallel park. The center median in this area of the street makes it one lane hence the
waiting behind cars for them to finish parallel parking. It is also hard to exit out of the St. John Fisher Church parking lot to turn
right or left onto Crenshaw Blvd. Pedestrians pass back and forth in the street in the middle of all of this congestion. There are
too many people visiting this small area and it is dangerous for hikers, bicyclists and drivers.
We walk this area daily and we've seen the measures that have recently been used to reduce traffic congestion, including
placing signs in the area recommending the public park down Crenshaw Boulevard beyond Crest Road away from the
residential neighborhoods and also adding language recommending that the public park and hike at the Alta Vicente Reserve. , I
While we appreciate the effort behind these measures, we haven't seen any indication that they have helped. The taxpayers of
Rancho Palos Verdes who live in the neighborhoods off of Crenshaw Blvd {Del Cerro, Island View, Park Place, Valley View Rd,
Burrell Ln) deserve to have these problems corrected. We believe that the only action that will work is to paint all of the
remaining curbs on both sides of Crenshaw Blvd red between Crest Road and Del Cerro Park. This is the only action that hikers
will follow. This will ease the overcrowding and congestion that this small area is constantly experiencing. That would leave 70
cars parking on Crenshaw Blvd beyond Crest Road away from the residential areas and 20 cars parking on Crest Road near St.
John Fisher Church. Isn't 90 parking spaces per hour,12 hours per day, enough to provide for hikers in this small area? They
might even try Alta Vicente Reserve if this happens. Another significant concern is that when they finish building all of the
apartment complexes on Crenshaw Blvd in Lomita and Torrance, the number of hikers will increase exponentially. That along
with the fact that officials approved a massive budget cut proposal this week affecting the LA County sheriffs department is
worrisome. The proposed cuts defund the department by more than $150 million and that's on top of the $400 million the
department has already been underfunded for the next fiscal year. This is scary for our residents, more people coming here
and less protection! We need to fix this traffic congestion now, before it gets worse!
We don't want busses or parking meters on the street. Bussing won't work{hikers don't want to spend time driving someplace,
waiting for a bus, getting on a bus and then driving again) and parking meters are unappealing. If you were to put parking
meters near Rattlesnake Trail but do not put them in front of St. John Fisher Church( on Crenshaw) then everyone will be trying
to park in front of the church and the u-turns, sudden stops and parallel parking problems will continue. Please paint the
remaining curbs red on both sides of Crenshaw Boulevard from Crest Road to Del Cerro Park and give us back our
neighborhoods! Thank you for all that you do for our city!
Bridget and John Stillo
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Monday, August 17,2020 12:19 PM
CityCierk
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Subject: Rancho Palos Verdes City Council Agenda for the Tuesday, August 18, 2020 (Hybrid In-
Person/Virtual) Meeting URGENT!!
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From: SUZANNE SOBEL <sobel2@aol.com>
Date: August 17, 2020 at 9:53:45 AM PDT
To: Scott Management Company Ariel <ariel@scottmgmt.com>
Subject: Re: Rancho Palos Verdes City Council Agenda for the Tuesday, August 18, 2020 (Hybrid In-
Person/Virtual) Meeting URGENT!!
Suzanne and Larry Sobel
23 San Clemente Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes
(ISLAND VIEW)
Please NO metered parking anywhere on Crenshaw ! This is a residential area, no parking meters please. It's a
tacky looking statement and will not solve any parking issues.
Best scenario is to have hikers park elsewhere and preserve the look of our neighborhood.
There is concern with this high fire time and so many hikers close to our neighborhood.
Since the Covid virus it seems that there are more hikers, more people walking through island view
neighborhood , some with their dogs off a leash .
There are people, non residents, using the stairs for exercise.
Always and forever fans of Gating our Island View neighborhood !
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Subject: Fwd: FW: Rancho Palos Verdes City Council Agenda for the Tuesday, August 18, 2020
(Hybrid In-Person/Virtual) Meeting URGENT!!
Dear Island View Residents,
Are you exhausted, irritated, annoyed, etc. regarding the traffic congestion on Crenshaw Blvd.
between Crest Rd. and Del Cerro Park as a result of the enormous number of visitors to the
Nature Preserve? It is estimated that 2,000 cars per day on the weekend are on Crenshaw
looking for parking spots. We need your action now! At Tuesday night's City Council meeting,
August 18, this issue is being visited again.
Attached is the City Council Agenda document for you to review. You may participate via
Zoom if you register. If you just want to submit comments by email, there is an email address
in the attached.
There is a Staff Report attached to the #1 Agenda item detailing various proposals and actions
that have been reviewed/completed since 2012. (78 pages).
Some of the suggested being reviewed at this meeting will be:
• Pay for Parking along Crenshaw. No. There is no enforcement now.
• Red striping curbs on both sides of Crenshaw from Crest to Del Cerro. Yes! Gets cars
away from neighborhoods. Doesn't require enforcement.
• Busing to Nature Preserve from City Hall. No. Don't need more commercial
traffic. Costly to tax payers.
• Open up other Trail Heads on Preserve.
• Open lot on Palos Verdes Drive South formerly known as Gateway. Yes. Empty
vacant land within Nature Preserve not near homes.
• Registration System for parking. No. Difficult and costly to administer.
Please email your comments, likes and dislikes to the email in document. They will be
distributed automatically to the City Council, City Manager and various departments.
Make your voice heard.
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Thank you,
Don Douthwright
President
The Island View Homeowners Association
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