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Last chance to get involved!
The appeal hearing in front of the Rancho Palos
Ve r des Mayor and City Council will be Tuesday
evening 2/20/2018 at 7:00 PM.
Fred Hesse Community Park
29301 Hawthorne Boulevard
McTaggart Hall
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
Attend and let your voice be heard or you can
email the Planner your concerns.
Octavio Silva
OctavioS@rpvca.gov
This project will result in 2 McMansions of over
5000 measuring up to 30 feet above grade and
about 40 feet above PV Dr E. Moreover, they
th r eaten to change the character of the
neighborhood from semi-rural equestrian to
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message that the houses are too tall, too
massive and not compatible with the
neighborhood.
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So are they tearing down the 2800 sq ft
existing home to put up 2 on the 1 acre lot?
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RPV · 3d ago
Thank you for your post. I sent in a letter to
Mr Silva.
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Yes the older house and pool will be
entirely demolished. The 43000 SF is to be
subdivided into 20,000 SF and 23000 SF
lots. One is behind the other accessed only
by easement, no flag lot. The building pad
for both houses is only 21000 SF due to
slopes and site restrictions. That puts both
houses in the center of the big parcel. If
you want a visual, look at 27591 PV Dr. East
and reduced it by 20°/o. They put two of
those front to back on the parcel next door.
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Chela Cowden, Upper Hollywood
Riviera · 2d ago
I have a comment regarding this issue and
many more to come: When local elections
come up again, be careful who you vote for,
and if if you haven't voted in the past take
notice: Don't put people on the City
Council who are builders and contractors.
They are the one responsible for the over
development that we are all so concerned
about. The set backs that were established
in our neighborhoods long ago are being
disregarded. Variances are common today.
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TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
HONORABLE MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
CITY CLERK
FEBRUARY 20, 2018
ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
Attached are revisions/additions and/or amendments to the agenda material presented
for tonight's meeting.
Item No.
B
1
2
Description of Material
Meeting date on the January 30, 2018, City Council meeting
minutes was corrected from February 30 to January 30
Emails from: Juan Croucier; Kurt Shewfelt; Laura and Lew
Holzman; Madeline Ryan
Correction to Attachment A Project Name
**PLEASE NOTE: Materials attached after the color page(s) were submitted
through Monday, February 19, 2018**.
Respectfully submitted,
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CALL TO ORDER:
DRAFT
MINUTES
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
FEBRUARY JANUARY 30, 2018
A Special meeting of the Rancho Palos Verdes City Council was called to order by
Mayor Brooks at 6:08 P.M. at Fred Hesse Community Park, Fireside Room, 29301
Hawthorne Boulevard, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on file.
City Council roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Alegria, Cruikshank, Dyda, Duhovic, and Mayor Brooks
ABSENT: None
Also present were Doug Willmore, City Manager and Emily Colborn, City Clerk.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
City Clerk Colborn reported that there were no requests to speak.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
1. Interview Applicants for the Planning Commission.
Council Members interviewed the following applicants for the Planning Commission:
Evan R. Cole; Maureen Dowd; Hany Francis; David Jankowski; Tae-Yoon Kim; Allan
Ku; Jeanne Lacombe; Naresh Nakra; Stephen Perestam; Lan Saadatnejadi; Mathew
Vitalich.
No action was taken.
Mayor Brooks called for a brief recess at 7:06 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 7:14
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION ITEMS ANNOUNCED:
City Attorney Aleshire announced the items to be discussed in Closed Session.
1. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION
GC 54957
Title: City Attorney (Specialty position)
2. POTENTIAL LITIGATION AGAINST THE CITY
GC 54956.9(d)(2) and (e)(3) ...
DRAFT -City Council Minutes B
Special Meeting
January 30, 2018
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From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Octavio Silva
Monday, February 19, 2018 5:22 PM
CityClerk
FW: 27591 PV Drive East
Late Correspondence for Item No. 1.
Thank you,
Octavio
From: Juan Croucier [mailto:jcroucier@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 4:44 PM
:nn Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: 27591 PV Drive East
Hi Octavio,
I'm a longtime resident of RPV. I am opposed to the building of two homes on the lot located at 27591 PV Drive
East. You are aware of all the new housing that has recently been built at the golf course and surrounding
areas. Traffic is bad enough to say nothing of the bicycle issue and the laws that were implemented long ago are in
place specifically to prevent over building in Palos Verdes.
Thank you,
. . www.1uancrouc1er.com
This message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the
reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
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From: Octavio Silva
Sent:
To:
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:52 AM
CityClerk
Subject: FW: 27581 PV Drive East Mansion Development
Late Correspondence for Item No. 1.
Thank you,
Octavio Silva
From: Kurt & Jeralee Shewfelt [mailto:shewfekjl@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 6:15 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: 27581 PV Drive East Mansion Development
Hello Octavio,
My name is Kurt Shewfelt and I have been a resident of Larga Vista, on Estribo Drive, for over 20 years. I love the rural setting
of our community and surrounding area. Recently, I have experienced encroachment by a neighbor, nice as she is, where a
large pergola-style patio was erected that looks like an observation tower over my backyard. She has asked me to help pay
for a new fence, only 8 years after I supported the last one, to restore my privacy. Needless to say, I'm not interested in paying
for another fence, and would rather incur cost to plant foliage to restore privacy.
This is why I am not in favor of the subject development. This is a rural, equestrian community. The "mansionification" of the
PV Drive East corridor is something my family does not want to see. Look what it's done to Manhattan Beach -monstrous
homes on small lots that are an eyesore, in my opinion, and a green light for others to develop in similar fashion.
Please maintain the appeal that brought me and my family to the Palos Verdes Peninsula. My grandparents lived here when
the Peninsula was just beginning. They lived up toward Miraleste. I used to stay with them in the 60s, and having grown up in
the heart of Los Angeles, I thought I was on the edge of the world when I came here, seeing skunks, racoons and squirrels for
the first time.
Approving the development of this home will be the beginning of the end for what so many people, if not the majority, value in
the PV Drive East corridor of the Palos Verdes community.
Thank you for your time,
Kurt Shewfelt
2232 Estribo Drive
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From: Octavio Silva
Sent:
To:
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:02 PM
CityClerk
Subject: FW: Parcel at 27581 PV Dr East
Late Correspondence for Item No. 1.
Thank you,
Octavio
From: lauraholzman@aol.com [mailto:lauraholzman@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:01 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Parcel at 27581 PV Dr East
Dear Mr. Silva,
We are writing to express our disapproval of the proposed building at 27581 PV Dr East.
We feel this project is excessive for the lot size.
Sincerely,
Laura & Lew Holzman
27890 Palos Verdes Drive East
RPV
310.832-7445
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From: Octavio Silva
Sent:
To:
Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:04 PM
CityClerk
Subject: FW: P.C. Resolution No. 2017-43 -27581 Palos Verdes Drive East Redevelopment
Late Correspondence for Item No. 1
Thanks
Octavio
From: Madeline Ryan [mailto:pvpasofino@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:03 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fw: P.C. Resolution No. 2017-43 -27581 Palos Verdes Drive East Redevelopment
Hello Octavio -the following is a letter re the subject development. I don't know if you
received this, as another individual told me he did not, so I am sending again in hopes that it
will at least be part of the 'late correspondence'. Appreciate your attentiveness to this.
"May the Trails be with you ... " Madeline
-----Forwarded Message -----
From: Madeline Ryan <pvpasofino@yahoo.com>
To: Octavio Silva <octavios@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <cc@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 10:36 AM
Subject: P.C. Resolution No. 2017-43 -27581 Palos Verdes Drive East Redevelopment
Hello Octavio
How does Staff affirm neighborhood compatibility of this project, when, to my knowledge,
there isn't another project like this anywhere in the immediate area, maybe not even in
RPV?
The Neighborhood Compatibility Handbook talks about balancing "residential development
with preservation of rural and semi-rural character of the City" and is in the 'Q' Zone of RPV,
one of four 'Q' Zones in the City, so we claim the rural, semi-rural character and atmosphere
your policy states. I just don't see how this project is compatible in keeping with that
character. What this project does is change the character from semi-rural, single family
residences to a multiple family duplex/compound.
Since the development is pushed to the center of the parcel, there appears to still be
adequate areas to the east for the keeping of large, domestic animals, that hopefully, would
meet the City's criteria for same. If it does not, then that would be another reason to deny
this project, based on keeping with the City's Neighborhood Compatibility policy.
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Because of variances needed to complete this project, diminishing views or loss of views of
neighbors, resulting in loss of home value, and the change to our semi-rural atmosphere,
why should this project be approved?
When projects such as this get approved, the changes to the area are obvious and these
changes are injurious to all residents of RPV and its neighboring city, Rolling Hills Estates.
I sincerely hope that the City Council looks to the future and decides this project based on
what they want our future city to look like.
Thank you,
Madeline Ryan
28328 Palos Verdes Drive East
Rancho Palos Verdes
"May the Trails be with you ... " Madeline
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Project:
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"-}RANCHO FALOS VEJ~DES
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Palos Verdes, CA 90275
Rancho
Portuguese Bend Feasibility Study Project
Change Order# 2
Attention: John Dodge
Daniel B. Stevens & Associates, Inc.
3150 Bristol Street, Suite 210
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Description I Quantity Unit Price Amount
1 Respond to public comments on the update to the Portuguese Bend Feasibility Study.
2 Conduct a community workshop to review comments received specific to the update to the Portuguese 1.0 I 34,500.00 I LS
Bend Feasibility Study.
3 Update the Feasibility Study.
4 Develop a presentation discussing the abovefor and attend a City Council meeting.
Original Contract Value
Total Value of all Previous Change Orders
Total Revised Contract Sum Prior to this Change Order
Value of this Change Order
New Contract Sum
Change in Contract Days
Revised Contract Completion Date
Accepted: Daniel B. Stevens & Associates, lnc.LH Woods & Sons
By
President
Date:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Authorized: Rancho Palos Verdes
By
Director of Public Works
Date:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Total
34,587.00
34,587.00
123,200.00
43,800.00
167,000.00
34,587.00
201,587.00
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6/30/2018
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TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
CITY OF RA.NCHO PALOS VERDES
HONORABLE MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
ACTING CITY CLERK
FEBRUARY 19, 2018
ADDITIONS/REVISIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA
Attached are revisions/additions and/or amendments to the agenda material received
through Monday afternoon for the Tuesday, February 20, 2018 City Council meeting:
Item No.
Closed Session
Item No. 1
Study Session
G
H
1
2
Description of Material
Email from Tracy Burns
Email from SUNSHINE
Update from Senior Administrative Analyst Fox
Email exchange between Community Development Director
Mihranian and April Sandell
Emails from: Chris Walia; Lulu Bryant; Gail Schirm; Rhoanne
Washington; Edna Wagreich; Madeline Ryan; Edith Tucker
Email from Eva Cicoria
Respectfully submitted,
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From:
Sent:
To:
Teresa Takaoka
Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
Nathan Zweizig
Subject: FW: RPV -Campbell Legal Strategy Re Records Requests and P&P Violations
Late corr
From: Tracy Burns [mailto:akamomma@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 7:47 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RPV -Campbell Legal Strategy Re Records Requests and P&P Violations
Hello All,
Alshire would need to be consulted as I am not a lawyer, but I've been thinking ....
1. Maybe Campbell is having difficulty complying with the records request because he is
technologically inept (this is highly unlikely though). A good faith offer by the CC to Campbell to
offer the assistance of the City's IT person or an outside contractor to help retrieve the items listed in
both records requests (by Green Hills and Mike Huang) wouldn't hurt. When Campbell refuses or
fails to be available by a certain date, it'll mean for sure he does not wish to comply and/or he has
something to hide. Additionally, it'll show that the city made every reasonable effort to comply with
the records request.
2. The city issues a cease and desist letter to Campbell re use of the title, logo, etc. We already know
he won't comply, because even after Mike's letter he is still doing his shady shenanigans. His recent
letter TO the city using the city logo and his FORMER title with (ret.) is a prime example and his
"Rancho Palos Verdes Affairs Newsletter" emailed out 2/6/18 to an undisclosed list is another.
3. Sooooo, ifl were the city I would go for an injunction after he refuses the offer of assistance -
which he will. Depending on the type of injunction there is a right to discovery and if he fails to
comply then there can be financial penalties. I doubt Campbell has enough money to cover legal fees,
the penalties and his RPV rental mailbox for his "official" correspondence.
Campbell is already costing the city a lot of money. It would be better spent on a killer offense instead
of a constant defense and letter writing campaign -IF Alshire agrees this is legally sound.
Sincerely,
Tracy Bums
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From: "SUNSHINE" <sunshinerpv@aol.com>
To: "Kit Fox" <KitF@rpvca.gov>, "CC" <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: RE: RPV City Council "Study Session" protocol
Hi Kit, Madam Mayor, Council Members and everybody who gets to peek,
Here in RPV they call them "Public Workshops". Have you not noticed that the
"consensus" after several workshops on, for example, Ladera Linda and the PB
landslide are just the same as the original proposal? Whatever happened to the public's
suggestions about including other goals which could be accommodated at the same
time and place? Mmmmm, like traffic safety, low maintenance trails and off-road
emergency connections. .. .S
STupy
<;c,s~ION
THE DElPHI TECHNIQUE
Oevelo~ed o~ tne RAND Cor~oration as a Cold War mind
control tecnni~ue, Delrni is used to cnannel a ~rour oi
reorle to accert a roint of view tnat is imrosed on tnem
wnile convincin~ tnem tnat it was tneir idea. In tne m~s and
'~~s, it was used to conv·1nce land owners oi tne merits or
accertin~ General Plan mars. Delrni can oe used on an~
wour, from just one rerson to tne entire world. Trained
facilitators rresent a ran~e or cnoices to a ~rour out nave
tailored tnem to direct tne outcome. Tnis is most often aone
in ruolic meetin~s, called V1sionin~ meetin~s.' rut on 01
~our cit1 or councy to ~et ~our o~inion on Your Town i~Wor
WJo. Mone1 lor tnese rrowams often comes from iederal
a~encies (memoers of tne President's Council on
Sustainaole Develorment) in tne form oi ~rants to 1our local
~overnment. Tne meetin~s are advertised as an or~ortunit1
for ~ou to ~ive 1our in~ut to an excitin~ new rlan lor tne
.. redesi~n ol ~our cicy center !or tne Mure. You'll usual!~ see
it as a s~mc rlan !or a reoevelorment rroject or a regional
transrortauon rlan tnat involves nousin~ ano land use
restnctions. Delrni is used in scnool ooaro meetin~s, in
trainin~s, at nei~noornooo association meetin~s, and otner
r1aces wnere tne or~anizers want to ~ive tne arrearance
tnat tne~ nave listenea to communicy orinion and
incorrorateo it into fueir rlan. B1 tne wa~, ~ou'll never near
tne woro 'Oelrni'-tne~ will never acKnowled~e tnat tne1're
ooin~ it.
Tne Ke1 tnin~ lo ~now aoou1 fuis is 1na1 ol course ~ou nave
no inrut. Onl1 comments and ooservations fuat surrort 1ne
rre·arrroved rlan ~II oe surrorted. ~I otners ~II oo
wrmen on a oi~ ~ad or rarer ana oiscaroed later. Tne
illusion oi ruolic ou~·in is all tnat is neeoed. Tne or~anizers
can later roint to tne !act tnat tne~ neld a ruolic meetin~, a
certain numoer or residents a~ended, ruolic comment was
ta~en, and tne communit~ arrroved tne rlan. Tne iacilitator
is often a rnvate consultant wno nas oeen rrolessionall~
tra·1ned in runnin~ and mana~·1n~ a meetin~. Tnis consultant
nas oeen n·1red o~ ~our cit~ to iu!Till tne re~uirement tnat tne
rro~ct nas oeen seen and surrorted o~ its cif1zens .. :1rs .
YOUR rlan. Ii tne ~roject is a controversiru one tne cit~ ma1
nave rut out tne call for non·rrofll ~rours, nei~noornooo
associations, cicy ooards and commissions, and cicy
emrlo~ees to sena memoers lo seed tne audience ana
oulnumoer rotential orronents. Tnis is war. On tnose iew
occasions wnen tne majorit~ or tne attendees ooject to tne
rlanned outcome, tne facilitator will close tne meetin~ and
rescneaule it for anolner lime· ana rlace. You are
exreriencin~ tne new consensus.
In a message dated 2/14/2 018 5:04 :1 1 PM Pacific Standard Time, KitF @ rpvca.gov writes:
Hi SUNSHINE:
The description of the Delphi Technique that you mentioned was not attached to your email.
Kit Fox, AICP
Cit\) of Rancho Palos Verdes
(310) 544~5226
kit£@rpvca.5ov
From: SUNSHINE [mailto:sunshinerpv@aol.com ]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:08 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca .gov >
Subject: RPV City Council "Study Session" protocol
MEMO From SUNSHINE
TO: RPV Mayor and City Council
RE: Requesting Study Session Topics
I have a problem with this Policy which I found on your Agenda for February 20, 2018.
The primary purpose of the Study Session is to provide an opportun ity for the
Council members to interact freely and informally, ask questions and discuss
policy items that are listed on the agenda for that specific Study Session . The
City Council will also provide direction to Staff regarding upcoming agenda
items and tentative agendas, including prioritization of agenda items that are
listed on the agenda for that specific study session. No action shall be taken
during any Study Sess ion unless the agenda so prov ides .
There are so many things going on which are not being coordinated among Staff and
need some macromanagement from Council. Although Council receives a lot of
correspondence, you never get the opportunity to discuss the policies which are
keeping the public bouncing from pillar to post.
What has to be done in order for any or all of the following "discussions" to appear on
your Study Session Agenda so that you can take an "action" should a majority of you be
inclined to do so?
1. Consider the Delphi Technique and decide whether or not it is appropriate to
continue using it at future Public Workshops. (See attached description.)
2. Consider the lack of a city-wide signage program and decide whether or not
roadways, parks, trails and the PV Preserve should present a consistent "vision".
3. Consider asking Staff to produce an up-to-date General Plan Land Use Map prior to
the Council's consideration of any proposed changes/amendments.
4. Consider some sort of quantitative bench mark as to how much of the PB landslide
abatement engineered solutions should be compromised in order to mitigate "habitat
damage".
5. Consider some sort of more specific definition of the phrase "The City shall provide
guidance" in the context of implementing the Conceptual Trails Plan.
These are the most pressing of my global concerns/frustrations. I have bunches
more. However, many of these others will be resolved based on a clear direction from
Council as to the above five.
I will be happy to provide specific examples of what is not being done in the public's
best interests under Staff's current MO and Budget. The real issue is what you can do
about it.
MEMORANDUM RANCHO PALOS VERDES
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
KIT FOX, AICP, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYSTc@j
FEBRUARY 19, 2018
LATE CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING LETTER TO STATE
LANDS COMMISSION REGARDING PALOS VERDES REEF
RESTORATION PROJECT (FEBRUARY 20, 2018 -AGENDA
ITEM 'G')
On February 13, 2018, the State Lands Commission (SLC) released the "Response to
Comments" (Appendix D) for the draft Mitigated Negative Declaration (MND) that has
been prepared for the Palos Verdes Reef Restoration Project (view on the SLC website
at http://slc.ca.gov/lnfo/Reports/PalosVerdes/AppD.pdf). This includes responses to the
City's previous comments of April 4, 2017, which are reiterated in the draft letter presented
to the City Council for its consideration on February 20, 2018.
With respect to the City's concern that the restored reef would be quickly covered by silt
from the toe of the active Portuguese Bend Landslide, the following response is offered:
This reef was designed to be resilient against the ongoing sedimentation
caused by the Portuguese Bend Landslide by maximizing the amount of
vertical relief of the reef itself. Natural high-relief reef patches in the area
have persisted and remain very productive because the rocks are well
above the sediment. The project specifically incorporates sedimentation
into the design. [Response No. 35. p. 7]
With respect to the City's concern that the restored reef would be too close to the DDT-
and PCB-laden sediments in the Santa Catalina Channel, the following response is
offered:
Resuspension of contaminated sediment was a major consideration when
evaluating alternatives for this project. The current understanding is that
any additional contamination from re-suspended sediment would be
extremely minor for two important reasons. First, the reef will be
constructed on a shallow layer of sand that is covering a historic /ow-relief
reef. Thus, there is very little sediment that could be disturbed. Second,
and perhaps more important, is that the actual concentrations of DDT
compounds and PCBs in the project area are very low when compared with
the sediments farther offshore and closer to the White's Point outfall, and
comparable to other nearshore areas in southern California. The amount
t1.
Late Correspondence for Palos Verdes Reef Restoration Project
February 19, 2018
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of DDT in the sediment is at the ambient levels consistent with the rest of
the nearshore habitats in the Southern California Bight, and reef
construction will not expose any buried pollutants that are not currently
available to the ecosystem. [Response No. 62, p. 11]
As of February 19, 2018, the SLC meeting agenda had been posted on the SLC website,
at http://slc.ca:gQy/Meetings/02-27-18/Agenda.htm, but the agenda report for the Palos
Verdes Reef Restoration Project (Section VII, Item 89) was not yet available for review.
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Sent:
To:
Subject:
Late corr
Teresa Takaoka
Friday, February 16, 2018 8:02 AM
Nathan Zweizig
FW: February 20, 2018 City Council Agenda I Consent Calendar Item H
From: April Sandell [mailto:hvybags@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:05 PM
To: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: PC <PC@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Edward Mendoza <eddie41oans@att.net>; Jeanne Lacombe
<chateau4us@att.net>
Subject: Re: February 20, 2018 City Council Agenda I Consent Calendar Item H
Ara,
Given your well crafted response, I'm done wasting my time as well as yours. Please know, I mean that
in the nicest way possible.
Going forward, I believe a few property owners are aware enough to protect their own
interests. I accept that most others simply see that
Coco's moved out and Chase is moving in.
April
On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov> wrote:
April,
I, as well as the Planning Commission, understood your concerns expressed at the January
23rd meeting regarding the aging infrastructure along Western Avenue and its potential
impacts to the surrounding area as it relates to the Chase bank project.
As mentioned at the meeting, the approved project includes conditions (similar to all
development projects in the City) that require a comprehensive drainage review prior to
issuing any construction permits.
Typically, the City requires that the drainage run-off entering the City's storm drains do not
exceed the pre-construction levels.
This is intended to minimize stress on the existing infrastructure.
1 H.
In regards to Agenda Item No. H, this is a change order request to allow the contractor to
complete the storm drain work in various areas of the City, including Western Avenue near
Caddington, due to changing site conditions.
One last thing, the Director is not authorized to change Conditions of Approval for a
Conditional Use Permit, unless it is interpreted as a minor modification, and in that case, all
interested parties including the final deciding party are given notice of the Director's
decision.
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From: April Sandell [mailto:hv.Y!?s.g,<;@_c;Q;:s,,ngJ]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:57 AM
To: PC <~vca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Edward Mendoza <edQ.Le4Jgg.11s(f1latt,pet>; Jeanne Lacombe <chateau4us@att.net>
Subject: February 20, 2018 City Council Agenda I Consent Calendar Item H
Dear Commissioner James,
As you may recall, the PC approved the CHASE proposed plans. I spoke in opposition to the CHASE
project raising supporting documents that contained language which I reasonably connected the
CHASE proposal to the potential redo of the entire Westmont shopping center including drainage
infrastructure repairs/replacement and improvements. You did not see it as I did
and mentioned your confusion.
With all due respect, you may find the subject Item H enlightening as well as helpful in the future.
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As you are aware, the Conditional Use Permits allows changes (evolves) subject only to the planning
director's approval. ( ie a living document.) So, given the drainage issues were not earlier viewed as
part of the CHASE plans, drainage systems are now on the agenda Feb. 20th.
The City/Caltrans cooperative agreement (in particular, those paragraph's 24 and 25) underscore my
ongoing concerns for myself and my neighbors, including those in property owners in and around the
Strathmore area.
Thank you for your attention.
Sincerely,
April L. Sandell
Note: I don't have Glen Cornell's email so cc Jeanne.
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From:
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Octavio Silva
Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:59 AM
CityClerk
FW: Nilay Patel New Residence Construction
Late correspondence for Item No. 1 (City Council Meeting on Feb. 20th).
Thank you,
Octavio Silva
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Walia [mailto:bxtreme112@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:20 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Nilay Patel New Residence Construction
Hi Octavio,
Our family had 3 homes on the Palos Verdes peninsula and have lived here for more than 40 years. We APPROVE the Patel
family residence!
Best,
Chris Walia
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From: Octavio Silva
Sent:
To:
Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:55 PM
CityClerk
Subject: FW: development on PV Dr.
Late correspondence for Appeal request at 27581 PVDE (Item No. 1)
From: Lulu Bryant [mailto:lulu@arteasecolors.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:10 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: development on PV Dr.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
DO NOT ALLOW THIS HOUSE TO BE BUILT! IT'S TOO BIG AND UNSIGHTLY FOR OUR RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD!
HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THIS?????
Lulu Bryant
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Octavio Silva
Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:59 PM
CityClerk
FW: 27581 PV Dr E
Follow up
Completed
Late correspondence for Appeal Request at 27581 PVDE (Item No. l.}.
Thanks
Octavio
From: Gail Schirm [mailto:gschirm@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:51 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: 27581 PV Dr E
I could not imagine 2 large homes on the 1 acre lot! Currently, that is an acceptable size lot for this area, and the
single home should be a reasonable size as well. No McMansions please. Its not appropriate for the area, the rural feel
and next they will be wanting to eliminate the horses because of the smells! This is not Manhattan Beach!!!
Gail's !Pad
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Octavio Silva
Monday, February 19, 2018 7:41 AM
CityClerk
Subject: FW: objection
Late correspondence for Item No. 1.
Thanks
Octavio
From: Rhoanne [mailto:rhoanne@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 6:17 AM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: objection
PS forgot to mention subdividing to put two separate houses on the lot would also set a terrible president for our city
please be our advocate and prevent urbanization
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rhoanne <rhoanne@cox.net>
Subject: objection
Date: February 15, 2018 at 8:07:04 PM PST
To: OctavioS@rpvca_,_gov
Mr Silva,
I live off PV Drive East and would like to file an objection to the development of# 27581 which is on
the planner for 2/20.
I am not able to attend the hearing, so I'm writing.
Please do not approve the building of McMansion type houses in our semi rural neighborhoods!
We have houses that are ranch style and fit our environment. The new houses that are being proposed
will set a president for the future and destroy the reason we all want to live here.
I have been a resident since 1964 and have seen so much development. Please protect what's left of
our beautiful peninsula and the very qualities that make it so desirable.
Thank you for your consideration,
Rhoanne Washington
3 Cayuse Ln
RPV
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Octavio Silva
Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:11 PM
CityClerk
FW: PV Drive E New Houses
Late Correspondence for Appeal request at 27581 PVDE. Item No. 1
From: Edna Wagreich [mailto:ewagreich@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:25 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: PV Drive E New Houses
Dear Mr. Silva,
As a homeowner on the Harbor Sight community, I am appalled that such a massive construction is even
considered. Not only will these houses look out of place, if they are built, more people will start building bigger
and bigger houses and the planning commissioner will not be able to deny permits. In which grounds would you
be able to deny someone else adding or building a bigger house?
Please preserve our rural environment.
Respectfully,
Edna Wagreich
310-447-2264
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Teresa Takaoka
Friday, February 16, 2018 11:14 AM
Nathan Zweizig
FW: P.C. Resolution No. 2017-43 -27581 Palos Verdes Drive East Redevelopment
From: Madeline Ryan [mailto:pvpasofino@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 10:37 AM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: P.C. Resolution No. 2017-43 -27581 Palos Verdes Drive East Redevelopment
Hello Octavio
How does Staff affirm neighborhood compatibility of this project, when, to my knowledge,
there isn't another project like this anywhere in the immediate area, maybe not even in
RPV?
The Neighborhood Compatibility Handbook talks about balancing "residential development
with preservation of rural and semi-rural character of the City" and is in the 'Q' Zone of RPV,
one of four 'Q' Zones in the City, so we claim the rural, semi-rural character and atmosphere
your policy states. I just don't see how this project is compatible in keeping with that
character. What this project does is change the character from semi-rural, single family
residences to a multiple family duplex/compound.
Since the development is pushed to the center of the parcel, there appears to still be
adequate areas to the east for the keeping of large, domestic animals, that hopefully, would
meet the City's criteria for same. If it does not, then that would be another reason to deny
this project, based on keeping with the City's Neighborhood Compatibility policy.
Because of variances needed to complete this project, diminishing views or loss of views of
neighbors, resulting in loss of home value, and the change to our semi-rural atmosphere,
why should this project be approved?
When projects such as this get approved, the changes to the area are obvious and these
changes are injurious to all residents of RPV and its neighboring city, Rolling Hills Estates.
I sincerely hope that the City Council looks to the future and decides this project based on
what they want our future city to look like.
Thank you,
Madeline Ryan
28328 Palos Verdes Drive East
Rancho Palos Verdes
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"May the Trails be with you ... " Madeline
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From:
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Subject:
Octavio Silva
Monday, February 19, 2018 7:39 AM
CityClerk
FW: Development at 27581 PVDRE
Late correspondence for Item No. 1.
Thank you,
Octavio
From: Edith Tucker [mailto:tetux@att.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:29 PM
To: Octavio Silva <OctavioS@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Development at 27581 PVDRE
I am opposed to allowing the huge development at the above address. This project would greatly impact the existing
atmosphere of the community from equestrian nature to an urban area and
would set a precedent for future changes in our area.
Please carefully consider the impact on the entire neighborhood.
Edith
Tucker
314 Carriage Dr.
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From: Teresa Takaoka
Sent:
To:
Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:01 PM
Nathan Zweizig
Subject: FW: City Council Agendas for Tuesday, February 20, 2018--Regular Business Item 2
Attachments: PB Landslide Abatement -questions for the consultants staff and council final corrected.pdf
From: Eva Cicoria [mailto:cicoriae@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 1:12 PM
To: Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>; Elias Sassoon <esassoon@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: City Council Agendas for Tuesday, February 20, 2018--Regular Business Item 2
Hi Doug and Elias,
Regarding the City Council Agenda and Staff Report to consider modifying the scope of service and
contract sum for the Daniel B. Stephens & Associates firm, I was surprised not to see as attachments the
questions and comments submitted by the public. One question that I have when thinking about whether
or not to support the Staff's recommendation is the extent to which we are likely to get much in the way of
new information from the consultants without further, current hydrologic and other study of the PBLC. If we
anticipate that much of the time spent by the consultants under the proposed contract modification will be
reviewing and organizing the questions and comments and then responding to them with something to the
effect that the questions and comments are beyond the scope of the Feasibility Study update and would
require further testing, then it seems to me that we won't get much value from the added expenditure at this
time. On the other hand, perhaps there are questions for which the consultants have more information that
they can provide at this time. The only way to really get some sense of that is to have access to the
questions. Please consider providing them to the public in advance of the City Council meeting. I've
appended below and attached my husband's and my correspondence of February 2 as a start, for inclusion
in late correspondence on this item.
By the way, it seems to me that an effort has been made to get the City Council agendas and related staff
reports out a little earlier in the week than they have been historically and that is much appreciated!
Eva Cicoria
From: Eva Cicoria <cicoriae@aol.com>
To: cityclerk@rpvca.gov
Cc: cc@rpvca.gov
Bee: cicoriae@aol.com
Subject: Portuguese Bend Landslide Feasibility Study Related Questions
Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 1:45 pm
Attachments: PB Landslide Abatement -questions for the consultants staff and council final.pdf (1662K)
Dear Ms. Takaoka,
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We wish to thank Mayor Brooks, Mayor Pro Tern Duhovic, Council Members Alegria, Cruikshank and
Dyda, and the Rancho Palos Verdes City Staff for the opportunity to provide additional questions to City
Staff and the engineering consultants at Daniel B. Stephens & Associates regarding the Draft Portuguese
Bend Landslide Feasibility Study dated December 22, 2017.
We are submitting the questions attached to this email for and on behalf of each of the 85 people and one
group whose names appear at the end of the question set. We sought to compile a comprehensive list of
questions. We find today, however, that members of the public have still more questions than are included
in the attachment. We have simply run out of time to continue to add to the list.
There may be some overlap among questions, and we request that in such cases City Staff and its
consultants provide answers that address all aspects of the aggregate of such overlapping questions, not
summary answers to groups of similar questions.
Please share our submission with the Infrastructure Management Advisory Committee, so that they, too,
may consider our questions.
Thank you for your diligent attention to this significant and important matter. Kindly acknowledge receipt of
this submission.
Eva Cicoria and Ken Swenson
Rancho Palos Verdes
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Questions Following Up to the Rancho Palos Verdes City Council Meeting of
1/16/18 Re: Draft Portuguese Bend Landslide Feasibility Study
Table of Contents
Legend ....................................................................................................................... 1
''Solution'' -Specific Questions ................................................................................. 2
Cost-Related Questions ........................................................................................... 5
Hydrology-and Geology-Related Questions ......................................................... 6
Nature-Related Questions ....................................................................................... 9
Process-Related Questions .................................................................................... 12
Other Questions ...................................................................................................... 13
Alternatives ............................................................................................................. 14
Supporters of These Question Submissions to Date (2/2/18) ............................. 15
Legend
CC=Rancho Palos Verdes City Council
CSS=Coastal Sage Scrub
City=City of Rancho Palos Verdes
FS=Feasibility Study Update Draft of 12/22/17
NCCP=Natural Communities Conservation Plan
PBLC=Portuguese Bend Landslide Complex
PBR=Portuguese Bend Reserve
PVDS=Palos Verdes Dr. South
RPV=City of Rancho Palos Verdes
SR=RPV Staff Report for CC meeting of 1/16/18
"Solution "-Specific Questions
1. Which of the project proposals being floated in the FS present the greatest
risk of triggering another landslide during construction? Is it not the case
that 1950s infill done in the PBLC area is thought to have been, at minimum,
a contributing factor to the 1956 landslide? How much new fill would be
involved in the different project proposals?
2. Mr. Cullen explained that the typical gradients they work on are 0.01 to
0.00001. The area under consideration has a 0.10 or 10% grade. What
hazards could be expected working with such steep terrain?
3. Have homes in Rolling Hills located near these three canyons been
examined for risk of de-stabilization if the project proceeds?
4. Are there flexible materials now available that could be substituted for
existing materials used on 1) the road, 2) the sewer pipe along PVDS, 3) the
extraction and monitoring wells, 4) the corrugated pipe installed in past
years to channel water in the lower reaches toward the ocean, in each case
which would reduce the likelihood of them being torn apart by land
movement?
5. If septic tanks account for a certain percentage of the groundwater and septic
tank conversion is the proposal with the least impact on nature, then will that
be prioritized first?
6. Would pipes from a centralized sewer system in Rolling Hills be routed to
avoid the Preserve?
7. Why not give full effort to dewatering instead of installing such systems and
then letting them go? If it worked for Abalone Cove, if it worked for PBR in
the past, why not try it ahead of other solutions? Even ifthe wells shear
over time, would it not be cheaper and less invasive to drill them again and
over time they should stop shearing as land movement slows?
8. What subsurface water (amount and percentage) would the proposed
"horizontal" drains be expected to drain and what water would not be
expected to be drained by them? What would happen to the water that
would not be expected to drain?
9. Is there a certain amount of water or percentage of water saturation that
would be expected to have a nominal effect on land movement and therefore
would be acceptable under the proposed solutions?
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1 O.How will dewatering wells function with the horizontal drains? Will
drainage be tunneled or established under PVDS? How will the tunneling
and drains under the road affect the long-term stability of the road when the
land does move?
11.From the plan view of the placement of the horizontal drains (FS Figure 14),
it is not clear what subsurface water levels the horizontal drains could
passively drain. (An elevation view would be useful.) Furthermore,
portions of the rupture surface appear to be at a zero-elevation contour line
(Geotechnical Figure 3). This would imply that the horizontal drains will
not drain water passively from this area. Please clarify.
12. Where has the sealing of surface fractures with cement been done previously
in an area with similar land movement?
13. What will happen to the clumps of concrete filling the fissures when/if the
land moves?
14.The consultants' presentation to CC (at about 2:32) indicates that the fill
substance for the fissures doesn't have to be cement, it could be soil. Is there
soil in some places in the City land south of the Preserve that has been
deposited by man during prior remediation attempts, that could be used as
fill for the fissures or are the consultants talking about introducing foreign
soil? If the latter, does that have any risks associated with it? Related,
foreign soil was brought in to re-grade Peppertree Tr. after last year's rains.
Are there any risks associated with that?
15 .Explain the differences between the Work Areas Conceptual Design vs. the
Drainage Routing graphics. The former shows the Portuguese Cyn Channel
extending past the Central Channel to PVDS and the ocean discharge,
whereas the Drainage Routing graphic shows drainage for Portuguese Cyn
being routed to the Central Channel only.
16. Where has the geo-textile fabric lining and channelization of canyons been
done previously in an area with similar features as in PBR?
17.What would the installation process be for geo-textiles where canyon walls
are deep or steep-sided?
18.How much flex is there in the geo-textile fabric proposed to line the canyons
and other proposed channels, i.e., when the land moves one foot, what
happens to that fabric? Two feet?
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19. Will plant roots perforate the geo-textile fabric, or work through seams or
overlaps, and in doing so impact the fabric's effectiveness?
20.If, over time, the geo-textile fabric tears or separates, does the work need to
be redone? How would someone even know?
21.The FS at p. 53 says that "some engineering components would also be
needed in mid-canyon high flow or flow convergence areas such as velocity
dissipation structures, flow control channeling .... " What are these
additional engineering components? Are any of those engineering
components to be made of concrete? And approximately what dimensions
are they likely to be? How would they be installed?
22. What "stream restoration program" is contemplated in the reference on p. 63
of the FS?
23 .How do the consultants envision getting construction equipment and hauling
equipment to and from each of the canyons they propose to channelize?
24. If 65 feet is the minimum width of the canyon lining and channelization is
based on a 100-year flood event (per the SR), what is the maximum width
that will be permitted/required?
25.How much work area is needed adjacent to the geo-textile project to support
the work? How much staging area is needed for the geo-textile work? How
much area is needed for spoils from the geo-textile work?
26.How do consultants propose to create a 65 foot-wide channel down each of
these canyons which, in some places are currently 5-10 feet wide but have
steep sides--will the canyons be filled in places in order to widen them?
27 .Explain further how planting is proposed in the rip rap and, in particular,
how the sacs would support large native plants with deep roots.
28.How do consultants propose to analyze the trade-offs between removing
vegetation with deep root systems that help to control erosion in order to
channelize the canyons vs. retaining that vegetation to control erosion and
allowing water to flow through the canyons naturally?
29 .Doesn't the central channel operate at cross purpose to the goal of sending
the water down the canyons to the ocean as quickly and directly as possible?
30.Why does the central channel send most of the water, including water from
Portuguese Cyn, into the area of suspected subterranean pooled water,
already deemed by the consultants to be a major problem area?
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31. The CC presentation by the consultants (at about 2:28) indicates that
Portuguese Cyn pretty much flows to the ocean. The pipe going under PVDS
has apparently sunk some. How does the consultant justify altering the
canyon to the extreme extent proposed if it is functioning fairly well
currently except at the point where it reaches PVDS?
Cost-Related Questions
1. Provide a breakdown of the spend on PVDS, sewer and other expenses since
the City's incorporation in 1973. What was the money spent on, and what
jurisdiction/agency spent it?
2. What would it cost and how long would it take to implement the measures of
1984, which seemed to be fairly effective and with significantly lighter
environmental impacts than those currently proposed in the FS? What
would it cost to properly maintain them, both monetarily and
environmentally?
3. Per Mr. Cullen, ground water wells are critical to understanding the geology
and hydrology of the landscape. Over the past years, money has been
invested in placement of some 20 water wells, probably more, but the data is
lacking. The fact that money was spent on water wells and then not
monitored or kept in repair does not give taxpayers confidence that this
project will be successful or be monitored and maintained. Why should
taxpayers believe that this time will be any different?
4. The consultants indicate that "a handful" of data would be needed before
designing a system, yet the data gaps seem to be extensive. Please separate
the data gap costs from the pilot testing costs provided in the slide near the
end of the consultants' presentation "Order of Magnitude Costs".
5. Regarding pilot testing, at what point would the determination be made that
the plan isn't working and it should be scrapped, vs. it should be modified at
X cost? Is the idea to go forward at all costs once we start down that road?
6. The FS says at p. 72 that "ultimately, additional areas in the adjacent
watersheds could also be lined, such as Eastern Altamira Cyn or Lower
Klondike Cyn where stormwater continues to infiltrate to groundwater in the
vicinity of the project area." What are the projected additional monetary and
environmental costs of these measures and how and when will the
consultants determine whether they are "necessary"?
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7. Will RPV pay for updated biologic surveys and how much will that add to
the cost?
8. Do the costs of the project take into account the costs for work in Rolling
Hills?
9. Do the costs of the project take into account all environmental mitigation,
including for Rolling Hills?
10. Will RPV pay for Rolling Hills septic to be converted to sewer?
11.If public debt is proposed for any of the project costs, whether in RPV or
Rolling Hills, will a public vote be required? What happens ifthe public
debt is not approved? Are the costs of such an election included in the
project costs?
12. What would be estimated to be the interest costs of any public debt required
to fund the project? Provide backup documentation for the calculation of
probable interest costs.
13.If the canyon channelization and lining go forward, will RPV compensate
donors who have given their hard-earned money trusting that the land would
be protected and preserved in perpetuity?
14.Has exposure to liability to homeowners, including homeowners in Rolling
Hills, been taken into consideration if the project triggers slope failure?
15.When will the public see a rigorous return-on-investment analysis?
Hydrology-and Geology-Related Questions
1. Why did the FS not include a "complete characterization of the hydrology of
the area", since this was a top priority of the public who attended the
Landslide Subcommittee meetings?
2. How will the consultants address the data gaps, specifically addressing data
from existing wells, piezometers in the streams, rainfall gauges, and multiple
years of data?
3. What are the highest-priority data needs to determine the most feasible, cost
effective, and least-damaging solutions?
4. What is the risk of failure of each proposed remediation solution if a full
hydro logic study of the watershed is not conducted and the existing data
gaps are not addressed?
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5. Some of the existing landslide abatement infrastructure is in complete
disrepair, some is simply not maintained. For example, this culvert between
Burma Rd and Rim Tr. has overgrown vegetation blocking water flow.
It seems that if the damaged infrastructure is not repaired, hydro logic data
may be skewed as water runoff and pooling is affected, thus it makes sense
to postpone any future hydrologic studies until the existing damaged
infrastructure is cleaned up and repaired or replaced. Has the existing
infrastructure been surveyed to determine what is repairable and what isn't?
Considering how long it will take to complete the projects currently
contemplated in the FS, doesn't it make sense to fix what we have at least in
the short term?
6. Is it possible to predict (and with what degree of certainty) where the land
will flow in the future based on how much and where water will infiltrate the
ground?
7. How much water is too much in the watershed? In other words, how much
would need to be removed under certain rainfall conditions? And how much
is needed to support life in the watershed?
8. Leighton estimated up to 77 acre-feet per year recharge from upslope
irrigation. Mr. Cullen said that this is significant and needs further
quantification to support a PBLC design. What sources of water are
subsumed in "upslope irrigation"? What is the current percentage of
groundwater inflow into the PBLC resulting from such irrigation upslope?
What percentage is from septic tanks?
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9. Is there a correlation between the changes in groundwater elevation from
well to well and the land movement measurements from one well location to
another?
10. Without the results from a hydrologic study for the watershed, that includes
data specific to each canyon, what evidence is there to support the statement
(in the PBLC Physical Characteristics slide presented by consultants at the
CC meeting) that "infiltration of canyon runoff is a source of groundwater
recharge" other than the infiltration once that runoff arrives at the lower
reaches of PBR? In other words, where is the evidence that any subsurface
water flow originating from water running down through the upper canyons
has any significant impact on groundwater recharge in the lower reaches of
PBR?
11. The consultants' presentation to CC indicated that "100% of storm water
from [Paintbrush and Portuguese] canyon flows directly into the head of
PBLC." Yet, some of that water currently percolates into the ground and
transpires through vegetation in the canyons. Confirm that actually more
water from the canyons will flow directly into the head of PBLC with lining
and channelization and that actually what is done with the water that comes
out of the canyons is going to determine whether or not the water flows into
the head of the PBLC or is diverted elsewhere.
12.Explain the "deep" water bearing zone.
13 .In the CC presentation, the consultants indicate ponding in the head of the
slide, but the arrow is moving around broadly. Where is the ponding? Is
this reference different than the depression in the failure surface? Does the
failure surface that drops to sea level extend under PVDS?
14. Where is the depression in the failure surface relative to the one spot that
showed 8 feet/year land movement?
15. What is the suspected relationship between the depression in the failure
surface and the one spot in the vicinity that showed 8 feet/year land
movement?
16.Regarding the Hydrogeology slide shown by the consultants at the CC
meeting of 1/16/18 indicating that PBLC water enters the subsurface by
different means, what amount of water entry is attributable to each of the
different means?
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17.In the consultants' slide labeled Detailed Analysis--Geotechnical Modeling,
the landslide mass is pulled off revealing a brown layer, but it appears that
part of the landslide mass is left behind in the area of the pond/the deeper
landslide. Is that correct? (about 2:16 on CC video) If the modeling left
behind the pond, can it be accurate modeling?
18.How is the variation in land movement explained (1-2 feet in most areas
versus 8 feet in one place)? And what is the consultants' proposal for
addressing this in particular; for focusing on this area?
19 .Land movement data presented was just for 1 year. What is the movement
for other years? And where?
Nature-Related Questions
1. Are Portuguese Cyn, Ishibashi Cyn, Paintbrush Cyn and Klondike Cyn all
blue-line streams?
2. Why did the FS not include a complete assessment of the environmental
impacts of the proposal, since this was a top priority of the public who
attended the Landslide Subcommittee meetings?
3. As you look out over PBR from above, you see that much of the CSS cover
occurs in the canyons.
Portuguese Cyn
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Ishibashi Cyn
Paintbrush Cyn
This makes sense, because the higher flat lands were the lands that were
farmed in years past, while the canyons were left in their natural state,
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except for damming created by roads across them. How viable is a preserve
for CSS-reliant species ifthe very highest quality CSS is removed?
4. Is there any plan going forward to assess the impact that destroying prime
wildlife habitat in these canyons will have on the survivability of wildlife
that currently live there and depend on the dense vegetative cover for
protection from predators, for den sites, and for forage?
5. What does it mean that the City staff worked with the consultants to make
sure alignment of the surface area would avoid any of the identified species?
A voiding identified species is not something the City staff is qualified to
represent fully to a consultant. A biologist should be the only person
representing this kind of information on behalf of the City and in a
collaborative process as well as to honor the NCCP, the City would request
that a biologist from the Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy provide
this information to the consultants.
6. Studies have shown us that California gnatcatchers, cactus wrens, and
mammals are present in the proposed project area. What data is there to
demonstrate that the noise and other impacts of heavy equipment such as
bulldozers, engines roaring, men shouting, radios blaring--all common to
construction sites--will not have an adverse impact on the protected species
and other wildlife?
7. What modifications will the consultants and RPV staff make in their FS
recommendations to show true prioritization of minimizing impacts on the
Preserve?
8. What are the most sensitive areas of the Preserve and how will they be
avoided per the NCCP requirements? Please consult PVP Land
Conservancy.
9. Per the SR, the NCCP allows 3.3 acres of CSS take within the Preserve for
landslide abatement measures. Channelizing upper Portuguese Cyn,
Ishibashi Cyn and Paintbrush Cyn alone is estimated to "take" more than 10
acres of CSS. If the City and consultants are truly committed to honoring
the NCCP, then why isn't channelizing the canyons rejected as an option as
other landslide abatement measures considered were rejected?
10.Ifthe City uses its full allotment of CSS take for utilities and dewatering
well maintenance simply to install the project, what is the City's plan for
those activities after the projec~ is installed?
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11.How will the biological values of the area in the PBLC be preserved?
12.In years, what is the estimated timeframe that the proposal would set back
the efforts already undertaken and progress already made to ensure the long-
term viability and sustainability of the native ecosystem?
13. Who was consulted regarding native plants before the FS proposed
uprooting them and planting them in sacs in the channelized canyons? Are
consultants aware that some native plant species in the canyons have very
extensive root systems, some 30-40 feet deep or greater, which themselves
offer stabilizing and transpiration benefits?
14.The FS says at p. 72 that "ultimately, additional areas in the adjacent
watersheds could also be lined, such as Eastern Altamira Cyn or Lower
Klondike Cyn where storm water continues to infiltrate to groundwater in
the vicinity of the project area." In addition, in the consultants' presentation,
Klondike Cyn was mentioned and we're told that it should be controlled
eventually. The consultants acknowledge that there is a lot of CSS in that
canyon. Has the take from these canyons been considered in the total take
calculations?
15. What inspections have been done in the canyons, if any, and under whose
guidance?
16."Take" in Rolling Hills is not mitigated by the NCCP. What mitigation
etlorts and permitting will be undertaken with respect to that take? Who
will be the lead agency for that permitting?
17. What effect does dewatering have on plant life?
Process-Related Questions
1. Conversations with the consultants following the CC meeting suggest that
the consultants would benefit from regular input from PVPLC staff and its
volunteers. What is the plan going forward to bring in the PVPLC and its
volunteers on a regular basis to engage in back-and-forth dialogue with the
consultants?
2. Was ACLAD (Abalone Cove Landslide District) consulted for their data and
feedback during the FS process?
3. Who is the "environmental expert" on the team; what is his/her background;
and what has been his/her contribution? (When the issue was raised last
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summer, the public was told that there is an environmental expert on the
team.)
4. Why doesn't the FS take into account the time frame and feasibility of
permitting and various agencies' reviews (other than mentioning there would
be constraints) with respect to the myriad project proposals?
Other Questions
1. If we have a heavy rain year in the middle of the project when all the habitat
has been tom up and nothing yet installed or only partially installed to
manage the water flow, what measures will be taken to prevent Palos Verdes
Drive South and the Portuguese Bend community becoming "another" Route
101 and Montecito, CA?
2. What measures can be implemented now without further study, such as
repairing or replacing existing infrastructure (e.g., corrugated pipes) to direct
water off of the lower PBR?
3. What percentage of the PBLC is within the City of Rolling Hills?
4. What support is there from Rolling Hills?
5. What impact have past construction projects had on the land movement, for
example, to what extent have Burma Rd., Peppertree Tr., and PVDS
dammed the natural flow of water down the canyons to the ocean and how
can those projects be re-designed to mitigate the problems?
6. To what extent will existing poor
drainage infrastructure be repaired
prior to pilot projects and other
work? For instance, after the rains
of 201 7 resulted in significant runoff
on and along Peppertree Tr., the trail
was filled and re-graded, resulting in
damming of the naturally-formed
runoff trenches. Recent rain filled
these trenches and pooled in the
lower part of PBR, allowing rain
water to infiltrate the ground rather
than running off.
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7. What is the involvement of the Klondike Cyn landslide with the Portuguese
Bend landslide as mentioned by Mr. Cullen in the CC meeting of 1/16/18?
8. There's an assumption that the grading done in 1987 as per POC II (moving
500,000 yards from steep areas to flat areas) slowed the land movement. Has
anybody looked at the rainfall during that time to determine whether other
variables might be responsible for the slower movement?
9. At what point in the process will the noise, dust, trail closures and other
impacts of the extensive construction work over a long period of time, on
trail users, residents of Rolling Hills and the Portuguese Bend community,
and visitors to Terranea Resort be considered in the mix of concerns?
1 O.Portuguese Bend Club is involved in slide remediation in their area. Have
the possible impacts of their grading and other work on the Klondike Cyn
slide and/or the PBLC, whether positive or negative, been systematically
examined?
Alternatives
1. Surface drainage within the landslide is poor, said consultants during the CC
meeting, and "can't get water to move through to the ocean where it
normally and originally and natively went to. It gets essentially dammed up
by the slide material." Was some of that "slide material" deposited by man
and why not focus on returning to a more natural drainage course,
particularly because the PBLC apparently showed little movement for
decades (centuries?) until man began to grade the area for roads, damming
the natural water courses?
2. The consultants' presentation indicated that the "lower reaches of Portuguese
and Paintbrush Canyons have been destroyed". They were destroyed by
man. What is the feasibility of restoring the lower reaches of the canyons to
allow rainwater to flow naturally to the ocean?
3. Has an analysis been done on leaving the upper reaches of the canyons in
their natural state and only addressing the lower reaches, for example
possibly lining "the sandbox", or part of it, with some type of flexible fabric
and directing the water from that low area down to the ocean through some
type of flexible piping?
4. What is the feasibility--risks and benefits--of creating a wetland atop a liner
in the low area of the sandbox?
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5. What is the feasibility of supporting PVDS on caissons or other support
structures down to the basalt bedrock, or creating a floating road or a bridge,
anchored on both ends of the land flow, allowing the land flow to pass below
the road surface?
Supporters of These Question Submissions to Date (2/2/18)
1. Eva Cicoria 33.Bill Ailor, PhD 66. Virginia Cicoria
2. Ken Swenson 34.Jim Knight 67. Carolynn Petru
3. Pam Emch, PhD 35. Cassie Jones 68.Andy Petru
4. Barb Ailor 36.John Spielman 69.Sharon Fair
5. Jim Rassler 37.Kathy Christie 70.Joe Platnick
6. Cynthia Woo 38. Susan Cyr 71.June Treherne
7. Randy Harwood 39.Tom Cyr 72.Linda L. Varner
8. Noel Park 40.Scott Ammons 7 3.Leonard W.
9. Tony Baker 41.Lewis Enstedt Varner
1 O.David Sundstrom 42.Megan McElroy 74.Jeremiah N.
I I.Barbara Gleghorn 43.Amy Friend George, PhD
12. George Gleghorn 44.Rick Wallace 7 5.David Quadhamer
13.Ann Shaw 45. Grace Wallace 7 6. Kathy Hill
14.Allen Franz 46.Peter Shaw 77.Leslie Chapin
15. David Berman 47.Marianne Hunter 78. Christine
16. Bill Lavoie 48. Wendy Watson Campbell
17.Dave Wiggins 49.Joan Kelly 79. Tami Podesta
18.Donna 50. Vicki Hulbert 80. Gina Henderson
McLaughlin 51.Randy Hulbert 81.Mark McGinn
19.Ian Song 52.Katie Vanderhal 82.Adela Barnett
20.Barbara Sattler 53.Jeremy Vanderhal 83.Bruce Biesman-
21.Rob Kautz 54.Joyce Jessoe Simons
22.Elizabeth Sala 55.Brett Barker 84.BobFord
23.Heather White 56. Geraldine Cole 85.Al Sattler
2 4. George Neuner 5 7. Brian Donnelly 86. South Coast
2 5. Diana Bailey 58. Cynthia Donnelly Chapter of the
26.Evi Meyer 59.Mel Lefkowitz California Native
2 7. Emile Fies !er 60.Linda Wu Plant Society
28. Cathy Nichols 61.Denise Donegan
29.Jim Aichele 62. Terry Scott
30.Bob Shanman 63.Jim Scott
31. Mike Kilroy 64. Sharon Yarber
32. Greg Marcelo 65. Virgil Cicoria
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