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MEMORANDUM
RANCHO PALOS VERDES
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
HONORABLE MAYOR &CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
TOM ODOM,DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WOR~
JULY 3,2012
ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON
VARIOUS STREETS (SUPPORTS 2012 CITY COUNCIL
GOAL #1,PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRAFFIC ISSUES -
FOCUS ON TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT)
REVIEWED:CAROLYN LEHR,CITY MANAGER ~
Project Manager:Nicole Jules,Senior Engineer y\CO
RECOMMENDATION
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.2012-A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ESTABLISHING SKATEBOARDING
RESTRICTIONS ON VIA COLINITA,PALOS VERDES DRIVE EAST,SILVER ARROW
DRIVE,HAWTHORNE BLVD,GANADO DRIVE,CREST ROAD EAST,CREST ROAD
WEST,CRENSHAW BLVD,BROWNDEER LANE,VERDE RIDGE ROAD,
LOCKLENNA LANE AND MIRALESTE DRIVE
BACKGROUND
At the October 2010 Traffic Safety Commission meeting,Deputy Chris Knox presented
a report on skateboarding in Rancho Palos Verdes and stated that it is a growing
problem.He shared with the commission a video clip in which he observed
skateboarders being pulled by a vehicle down Miraleste Drive and dangerous
skateboarding activities occurring on Palos Verdes Drive East and Hawthorne Blvd.
Deputy Knox recommended at that time,staff consider prohibiting skateboarding on the
following streets by posting of appropriate signage for enforcement:
Via Colin ita
Palos Verdes Drive East
Silver Arrow Drive
Hawthorne Blvd
Ganado Drive
Crest Road (East and West)
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Crenshaw Blvd
Browndeer Lane
Deputy Knox stated that these streets are most attractive to skateboarders, particularly
long boarders,due to the steep,circuitous character of the roadway.
Subsequent to Deputy Knox's presentation,staff received correspondence from
residents also concerned about skateboarding who were requesting the City to post
signage that prohibits skateboarding on Via Colin ita.
At the February 27,2012 meeting,the TSC discussed the skateboarding issue and
requested staff to investigate the feasibility of establishing threshold requirement to be
used as a criterion for skateboarding prohibition.Such criterion included street
steepness and horizontal curvature.Staff evaluated the potential for establishing
criterion and found that over 95%of City streets,at some point,have steep inclines or
sharp horizontal curves.As a result,the TSC voted to recommend establishing
restrictions on the eight streets as recommended by the Sheriff's Department with the
addition of the following streets as requested by members of the public:
Verde Ridge Road
Locklenna Lane
Miraleste Drive
Members of the TSC are concerned that imposing restrictions on the above streets may
transfer the problem onto other streets.Although recommending a city-wide ban of
skateboarding is not the desire of the TSC,the TSC would like the City Council to
consider revisiting this issue as safety concerns are revealed and for City Council to
reconsider as appropriate.If staff becomes aware that skateboarding activities are
spilling-over to other streets,then a recommendation should be made at that time to
modify the restrictions to include other streets or to consider a city-wide policy,as
appropriate.
DISCUSSION
In accordance with Municipal Code Section 12.16.120,the use of skateboards,roller
skates,inline skates,scooters and similar wheeled devices on public property is
prohibited,provided the prohibition is designated by resolution and has been properly
noticed by posting of signs.The following streets have been identified by the Lomita
Sheriff's Department,with concurrence from the TSC and staff,as being inappropriate
for skateboards or other similar wheeled devices:
Via Colin ita
Palos Verdes Drive East
Silver Arrow Drive
Hawthorne Blvd
Ganado Drive
Crest Road (East and West)
Crenshaw Blvd
Browndeer Lane
Verde Ridge Road
Locklenna Lane
Miraleste Drive
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Signs shall be posted that state "PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION
12.16.120 OF THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE,NO
SKATEBOARDS,ROLLER SKATES,INLINE SKATES,OR SCOOTERS ARE
PERMITTED"
The attached Resolution No.2012-xxx memorializes this action.
FISCAL IMPACT
Adopting staff's recommendation will result in cost associated with establishing the
prohibition which is approximately $3,200 to produce and install the signs.Funding for
these costs is available in the FY 2012-2013 Traffic Management Program budget that
was adopted at the June 19,2012 City Council meeting.
Approval of the recommendation will also result in a new and ongoing expansion of
regulation and city service levels by increasing the need for staff time and enforcement
activities.
Attachments:
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120
April 23,2012 Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Minutes
RESOLUTION NO.2012-xxx A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ESTABLISHING SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS
ON VIA COLINITA,PALOS VERDES DRIVE EAST,SILVER ARROW DRIVE,
HAWTHORNE BLVD,GANADO DRIVE,CREST ROAD EAST,CREST ROAD WEST,
CRENSHAW BLVD,BROWNDEER LANE,VERDE RIDGE ROAD,LOCKLENNA LANE
AND MIRALESTE DRIVE
Email correspondence
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12.16.120 -Skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters and similar wheeled devices
prohibited on public property.
A.No person shall,and it shall constitute a public nuisance for any person to,operate,ride,propel,
or coast any skateboard or scooter,or utilize roller skates,inline skates or any similar unmotorized
wheeled device having wheels less than six inches in diameter,upon any public street,sidewalk,alley,
or roadway within the city,where such public street,sidewalk,alley,or way is designated by resolution
of the city council as closed to such activities and where notice of such prohibition has been posted and
is clearly visible in the immediate vicinity where such activity is prohibited.
B.No person shall,and it shall constitute a public nuisance for any person to,operate,ride,propel,
or coast any skateboard or scooter,or utilize roller skates,inline skates or any similar motorized or
unmotorized wheeled device having wheels less than six inches in diameter,upon any public park or
other public property within any zone in the city,where such public property is designated by resolution
of the city council as closed to such activities and where notice of such prohibition has been posted and
is clearly visible at a minimum of two entrances to the prohibited area or in the immediate vicinity of the
area where such activity is prohibited.
C.The notices required by subsections A and B of this section shall be in substantially the following
form:
PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 12.16.120 OF THE RANCHO PALOS
VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE,NO SKATEBOARDS,ROLLER SKATES,INLINE SKATES,OR
SCOOTERS ARE PERMITTED.
D.This section shall not apply to persons participating in any city-sponsored program,event or class
in which use of the self-powered wheeled devices described herein are specifically authorized,
permitted or required.
(Ord.371 §2,2001)
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MINUTES
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES,CALIFORNIA
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY,APRIL 23,2012
CALL TO ORDER:Chair Locascio called the meeting to order at 7:00PM at the Rancho
Palos Verdes Community Room,30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,Rancho Palos Verdes,
California 90275.
ROLL CALL:PRESENT:Chair Locascio,Vice Chair Klatt,and Commissioners Donahue,
Kramer,and Self (arriving late)
ABSENT:None
ALSO PRESENT:Nicole Jules,Senior Engineer,Public Works
Department;Melissa Murphy,Associate Engineer and Acting Recording
Secretary,Public Works Department
FLAG SALUTE:Commissioner Kramer led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
ACTION TAKEN:
Commissioner Kramer moved to approve the Agenda,seconded by Commissioner
Donahue.
Motion approved:
Ayes 4,Nays 0
Absent:Commissioner Self
CHAIR'S COMMUNICATION:
Chair Locascio asked about the designation of a new Vice Chair.Commissioner Kramer
suggested placing this topic as an item on the agenda for a future meeting,since it was not
included in this meeting's agenda.Chair Locascio commented that he will not be available at
the next meeting.Commissioner Kramer responded that the current Vice Chair will remain
the active Vice Chair until a new one is designated at a future meeting.
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Chair Locascio described an item brought to City Council a few weeks ago that had been
heard before by the Traffic Safety Commission.He explained that the Traffic Safety
Commission had heard the presentations regarding the speed limits on Palos Verdes Drive
East and then decided to recommend to leave them as-is.He added that he then attended
the City Council meeting and it appeared that the existing speed limits were now being
presented as no longer enforceable.Chair Locascio stated that it was not known to the
Traffic Safety Commission that the existing speed limits were no longer enforceable,and that
is why there was a new study.He explained that the City Council was concerned about that
and considered sending the item back to the Traffic Safety Commission,but did not want to
delay the placement of the new speed limits in two out of the five areas that were recently
surveyed.
Senior Engineer Jules responded that all of the details have not been fUlly disclosed to the
City Council and so the City Attorney will discuss them in a closed session with City Council
on May 1st.
Chair Locascio said that he was asked to attend that City Council meeting,and so he did,
and he was asked why a study was made when the old study should have been valid for
another two years.He said he was left in an awkward position to say the least,since that
•information regarding the old studies was not available until after the Council meeting.He
added that he hopes that he will not be placed in that position again.
Chair Locascio reported that the City Council is considering and discussing revisions to the
practices and policies of the Council and Commissions,so if the Commissioners have a
chance,they may wish to review the changes that are being proposed.
SHERIFF'S STATUS REPORT:
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
None
OLD BUSINESS:None
NEW BUSINESS:
1.ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS
Recommendation:
Prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters,and similar
wheeled devices on Via Colinita,Palos Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,
Hawthorne Blvd,Ganado Drive,Crest Road (East and West),Crenshaw Blvd,
Browndeer Lane,Verde Ridge Road,Locklenna Lane,and Miraleste Drive in
accordance with Municipal Code Section 12.6.120 and forward staffs
recommendation to the City Council for consideration.
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Chair Locascio asked Associate Engineer Murphy to read the item aloud.Chair Locascio
then questioned why there was not a Staff Report included for this item in the agenda.
Senior Engineer Jules clarified that it was included and how it has been indicated as such in
the agenda.She then asked Chair Locascio if she could proceed with the Staff Report and
he granted this request.
Senior Engineer Jules provided background on the item,pointed out that three streets had
been added to the list out of consideration of previous comments made from the public at the
last meeting,and provided clarification on the ordinance,including the fact that a violation of
the ordinance would be considered an infraction.She also went over the fees associated
with this type of violation.
Senior Engineer Jules explained that in follow-up from the last meeting,no such street grade
database existed as had been discussed previously.She added that she performed some
preliminary research and found that approximately 95%of the streets in the City exceeded
the 5%grade threshold suggested at the last meeting.She went on to explain Staff's
•recommendation.
Commission Discussion and Staff Questions
Chair Locascio asked if there has been any progress or thoughts about establishing a
skateboard park.Senior Engineer Jules responded that the Recreation and Parks
Department is looking into it,but that there has not been much movement on it since the last
meeting.Chair Locascio asked when there might be more progress on it.Senior Engineer
Jules responded that she did not know,since the Recreation and Parks Department is
balancing all of City Council's needs.
Chair Locascio asked for questions of Staff from the Commissioners.
Commissioner Kramer asked for clarification of the street segment length that was used in
Senior Engineer Jules'preliminary analysis that arrived at the 95%exceedance rate.Senior
Engineer Jules responded that,yes,there could be a variety of street segment lengths that
were used to exceed this grade threshold.
Chair Locascio commented that it is also relevant how long and how straight a particular
street is.
Chair Locascio opened the public hearing.
Lisa Jaksic,6504 Via Colin ita
Ms.Jaksic stated that she agreed with Staff's recommendation and that Via Colinita is not a
typical residential street,since it has six blind curves,is very narrow,especially
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when cars are parked on the street,and is often used as a shortcut by motorists.She asked
the Traffic Safety Commission to add signs to Via Colinita forbidding skateboarders coming
down that street.She explained that there have been two accidents there involving
skateboarders,and fortunately no one was killed,but that it is just a matter of time before one
of those kids gets killed.She said that a lot of the kids do not wear helmets and it is just a
really scary and dangerous situation.
Mark Matthews,Via Ciega
Mr.Matthews stated that he agrees with Staff's recommendation and feels that this approach
is the right one,to focus only on the streets that are the most dangerous to skateboard on.
He emphasized that he felt that this is a safety issue for all users of the roadway.He added
that he agrees with Ms.Jaksic that there are blind curves on Via Colinita and that there
should be signs prohibiting skateboarding posted.He stated that for Via Colinita,the City
should at least post signs and let kids know that this is not a street to be skateboarding on.
Mr.Matthews explained that his neighbor,Paul Fujisama,has skateboarders bailing out
when they lose control trying to navigate the curve on their skateboards and end up in his
garden.Mr.Matthews mentioned that there have been a couple people hit on skateboards
and that there was a kid killed in San Pedro while skateboarding.He stated that he has had
, a couple of near misses on Via Colin ita and just really wants skateboarding to be done in a
safe area and he feels that this street is not the place to do so.
Paul Tetreault.6600 Via Colinita
Mr.Tetreault expressed his concern for the safety of the skateboarders and explained that he
can see backing out of his driveway,but the blind curve prevents him from being able to see
other motorists or skateboarders.He pointed out that there are three to four other choke
points on Via Colinita where the street is narrow,so if a car is conflicting with skateboarders,
it is a problem.He emphasized that he feels that it is not an appropriate place to skateboard.
Mr.Tetreault added that it is good that skateboarding is a physical activity that kids are
participating in,and that he realizes that it is beyond the jurisdiction of the Traffic Safety
Commission,but that it is really important for the City to find a place where these kids can
skateboard.He explained that it is easy to shut down these places,but it is harder to open up
these places.He stated that he knows the City Council has given priority to this,but he just
wanted to give voice to it as well.He concluded by stating that he supports Staff's
recommendation.
Chair Locascio closed the public hearing.
Commission Discussion and Staff Questions
Chair Locascio asked for comments from the Commissioners.
Commissioner Donahue stated that it is a dangerous street and that there are a lot of blind
corners on Via Colinita.
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Commissioner Kramer stated that he has the same fear as last time that this was discussed,
which is that he is concerned that the City would simply be pushing the problem to another
street.He explained that he would be in favor of a more comprehensive analysis of the
streets that would give a grade threshold and an associated street segment length.He
added that,as an example,he is concerned that kids will start skateboarding down
Crownview instead,and so is cautiously in favor of Staffs recommendation.Chair Locascio
stated that he agreed.
Vice Chair Klatt stated that he is glad that the violation would be considered an infraction.He
added that he agreed with Commissioner Kramer's points but that he also feels that the City
needs to start somewhere,and so he agrees with Staff's recommendation.
Chair Locascio stated that it seems like the Traffic Safety Commission should revisit this
topic in the near future and that is why he asked the status of the skate park earlier,so that
maybe it could be added as another condition.He went on to state that at the same time,
Staff had indicated earlier that it would be an enormous effort to analyze all of the streets.
He said that maybe just a 5%grade threshold should be indicated in the ordinance,but then
•he questioned how this could be enforced or how to implement that.Senior Engineer Jules
replied that Staff would have to analyze every single street in the City.
Chair Locascio said that it may take discipline on the part of young people to stay in their
lane when skateboarding.He explained that he does not want to see people get hurt,
regardless of whose fault it is.He went on to state that each street is unique,so it is hard to
issue a blanket statement.
Commissioner Kramer reminded the Commission that this is the second time that this topic
has come to the Commission,so he does not want the decision to be postponed any further.
Commissioner Self arrived at 7:30pm.
Commissioner Kramer stated that he would like more specificity added to the
recommendation to match the language in the ordinance.Senior Engineer Jules asked if he
meant that he would like the language in Section B incorporated.Commissioner Kramer
responded that,no,he was referring to Section A of the ordinance.Senior Engineer Jules
replied that she will do so when it goes to City Council for consideration.
Chair Locascio asked if this language would pertain to longboards.Senior Engineer Jules
and Commissioner Kramer responded that,yes,it would.
ACTION TAKEN:
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Commissioner Kramer moved to support Staff's recommendation,adding the more
specific language from the ordinance discussed.Commissioner Donahue seconded
the motion.
Commissioner Kramer commented that when this comes back to the Commission,the
Commission will have to figure out a better way to handle it.
Commissioner Locascio asked for any other comments from the Commission.
Motion was approved:
Ayes 4,Nays 0
Abstain:Commissioner Self
1.2012-2013 WORK PLAN
Recommendation:
Review and approve the proposed 2012-2013 Work Plan.
Chair Locascio asked for the Staff Report on this item.Senior Engineer Jules explained the
•process of updating the work plan.She said that the focus should be if the Commission feels
the tasks are attainable and in alignment with the City Council's goals.She stated that her
plan for this meeting's discussion is to go through each goal and draft work plan item that is
pertinent to the Traffic Safety Commission.
Focus on Traffic Enforcement
Commissioner Kramer commented that this is related to the Palos Verdes Drive East speed
limits and asked if Staff plans to revisit the speed zone surveys.Senior Engineer Jules
responded that the ones conducted by Willdan have been presented to City Council.She
added that after the City Council closed session on May 1st,the future of the speed limits on
Palos Verdes Drive East will be known.She went on to explain that Staff is also proposing to
do a new round of speed studies in the City since there is a lack of some back-up data.
Chair Locascio asked who maintained the back-up data at the time the speed surveys were
taken.Senior Engineer Jules responded that it was the consulting traffic engineer at the
time,who no longer works for the consulting firm or the City.
Commissioner Kramer clarified that the reason the Traffic Safety Commission had decided to
re-do the speed surveys on Palos Verdes Drive East was because a group of residents were
complaining that the speed limits were set artificially low on this street.He added that it was
also felt that it was cheap to perform new speed surveys and so that is why the Commission
acted as it did.
Chair Locascio asked Staff what is the definition of a speed trap.Senior Engineer Jules
responded that it pertains to when a posted speed limit is not supported by a speed
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zone survey.She added that the term is specifically defined in the California Vehicle Code.
Chair Locascio responded that he thought it was when law enforcement officials were well-
concealed looking for motorists to speed and then to catch them doing so,and so he was
glad that Senior Engineer Jules clarified the meaning of this term for him.
Commissioner Kramer asked Senior Engineer Jules to also clarify for the Commission that
not all streets require speed zone surveys to be taken in order to have enforceable speed
limits.Senior Engineer Jules replied that,yes,that is correct;residential streets do not need
to have speed zone surveys taken for the 25 MPH speed limit to be enforced.
The Commission indicated that it is in agreement with Work Plan Item #1.
Palos Verdes Drive East Safety
Senior Engineer Jules stated that the City has a $300,000 grant for guardrail repair along
Palos Verdes Drive East as well as an upcoming resurfacing project that will include some
improvements.
•Chair Locascio commented that with the amount of curves on Palos Verdes Drive East,and
since placing additional signs on the roadway is strongly discouraged,this would be a good
place to put the speed limit pavement markings on the pavement.Senior Engineer Jules
responded that that level of detail can be considered in the design of the Palos Verdes Drive
East improvements.
The Commission indicated that it is in agreement with Work Plan Item #2.
Bicycle Safety
Commissioner Kramer commented that the goal originates from the City Council,so he is not
sure if he can amend it or not,but that he would like to include motorists'awareness in the
language of the goal.Senior Engineer Jules responded that the Commission is not in the
position to amend the language of the City Council's goals.
Chair Locascio asked if there is sufficient publication showing bike paths to be better than
having bikes ride on the street.He said he understands that bicyclists have a legal right to
be on the roadway,but added that it is very difficult to not hit them when going around a
curve.
Commissioner Self responded that having separate bike paths contradicts the idea of
sharing the roadway.Chair Locascio indicated that he disagreed.
Commissioner Kramer stated that he agreed with Commissioner Self and that bicyclists have
a legal right to use the roadway.He added that bike lanes are not always appropriate.He
explained that,for instance,on the downhill side of a roadway,it is not safe to stay in a four-
foot lane when going 40MPH down the road.He went on to state
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that unfortunately the MUTCD and other guidelines state that if an agency is putting a bike
lane on one side of the roadway,they have to put it on the other side too.
Commissioner Kramer commented that there is a significant percentage of the population that
believe bicyclists should not be in the roadway,and therefore he thinks the City has the
responsibility to educate all users of the roadway.He asked Staff if it is possible to modify
the language of the work plan item.Senior Engineer Jules responded that,yes,the
Commission can modify the language of the work plan item.Commissioner Kramer
responded that he would like to add the language "...and promote cyclists',motorists',and
equestrians'safety awareness."
The Commission indicated that it is in agreement with Work Plan Item #3 as modified.
Increase Citizen Involvement
Chair Locascio commented that "i.e."should be changed to "e.g."
Vice Chair Klatt stated that he feels this work plan item is a good idea.
Chair Locascio asked about outreaching to the Homeowners Associations too.Senior
Engineer Jules asked what language he would then like added to the work plan item.Chair
Locascio responded that maybe it is already implicit in the City Council goal's language.
Commissioner Kramer pointed out that Staff has been very good about reaching out to the
community in the past,including even neighboring cities affected by projects.
The Commission indicated that it is in agreement with Work Plan Item #4.
Senior Engineer Jules asked if there are any other items that the Commission would like to
call attention to.
Commissioner Kramer stated that he would like to include the addition of guardrails,
especially on Palos Verdes Drive West,north of Hawthorne Blvd,since the grant that the City
has obtained is only for Palos Verdes Drive East.Commissioner Kramer asked Staff if
guardrails could be added to Palos Verdes Drive West.Senior Engineer Jules responded
that the City will be significantly modifying some of the center medians,including grade
modifications,trail connections,and possible construction of a wall as part of the upcoming
center median improvement project.
Chair Locascio inquired which part of Palos Verdes Drive West Senior Engineer Jules was
referring to and she explained.
Commissioner Kramer asked what the source of funding was for these improvements and
Senior Engineer Jules responded that the funds were from the beautification grant program.
Commissioner Kramer asked why this money would not be used to improve
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the Hawthorne Blvd center medians.Senior Engineer Jules replied that those center
medians will be improved with these funds in the future,but the Palos Verdes Drive West
center medians had already been programmed into the budget in the past.
Commissioner Kramer asked about the status of the past work plan items.Senior Engineer
Jules responded that the only outstanding work plan item was Palos Verdes Drive East,and
that will be rolled over to the current work plan.
Chair Locascio asked about the law enforcement/Sheriff Department goal.Senior Engineer
Jules responded that the City Manager's office is addressing that goal in regards to public
safety and things of that nature.
Chair Locascio questioned why bother with the Sheriff's presence on the south and west
sides of the City with the substation.Senior Engineer Jules replied that that goal is not
related to traffic safety.
ACTION TAKEN:
Commissioner Kramer moved to accept Staff's recommended work plan items as
.modified.Vice Chair Klatt seconded the motion.
Motion was approved:
Ayes 5,Nays 0
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
1.South Bay Cities Council of Governments -South Bay Watch.Spring 2012
Senior Engineer Jules asked if all of the Commissioners had received a copy of the South
Bay Watch publication.The Commissioners responded that they had.
1.Traffic Commissioners Workshop (March 17.2012)
Senior Engineer Jules asked who attended and Chair Locascio and Commissioner Donahue
indicated that they attended the workshop.She then asked the Commissioners that attended
how it went.
Commissioner Donahue said it would have been very helpful to attend this workshop at the
beginning of her term on the Commission,but that she still found attending it now very
beneficial and informative.Senior Engineer Jules responded that the traffic engineering
consultant,Eric Zandvliet,had provided a personal,abbreviated version of the training
workshop when the new Commission term had started.
Commissioner Donahue responded that she remembered that,but that it was still a lot of
information to digest all at once.
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Chair Locascio said that he wished to recognize Associate Engineer Murphy's efforts in
supporting and helping to organize the event.He went on to state that the event was well-
attended,in spite of the rain storm,and that some of the presentations were very focused,
but also acknowledged that every City is unique.He added that some ideas were not as
relevant to Rancho Palos Verdes,such as walkable or complete streets.
Senior Engineer Jules asked the Commissioners if they would be interested in going again
next year.Chair Locascio stated that he would expect that there would be different material
presented so he would be interested in going again,unless it is held in Riverside.He added
that Buena Park is as far as he would like to go to attend the workshop if the City Traffic
Engineers Association considers changing the location of it next year.
Senior Engineer Jules asked how the duration of the workshop was and if they felt it was
adequate.Chair Locascio responded that as long as there are interesting presentations,he
thinks having the workshop last a full day is a good idea.
Commissioner Donahue stated that she felt that the material presented at the workshop was
interesting.
Chair Locascio stated that the presentations were all different,so it was interesting to hear
all of the different perspectives that the presenters had.
Senior Engineer Jules asked if they liked the lunch that was provided.Chair Locascio and
Commissioner Donahue responded that they liked it.
Senior Engineer Jules thanked Chair Locascio and Commissioner Donahue for representing
the City at the event.Chair Locascio commented that Associate Engineer Murphy
represented the City well at the event too.
Commissioner Kramer asked Associate Engineer Murphy if many volunteers attended.
Associate Engineer Murphy replied that most of the attendees were Commissioners,but
some agency staff,consulting firm professionals,and students also attended.
Associate Engineer Murphy reported that over 50 people attended the workshop from over
20 different agencies from Los Angeles,Orange County,and Riverside counties.
Chair Locascio commented that you could tell that some of the presentations were being
made by a private consultant or contractor with something to sell.Senior Engineer Jules
inquired which ones.Chair Locascio responded the complete streets presentation.He
added that it was helpful to hear how other cities are being managed and operated,and that
it gets one out of having a myopic view.
1.Palos Verdes Drive South Arterial Rehabilitation Project
Associate Engineer Murphy provided an update of the status of the project.
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Commissioner Kramer stated that he is not as much of a fan of the microsurfacing as he is of
the rubberized hot mix overlay.Associate Engineer Murphy responded that rubberized hot
mix overlay is also a more costly treatment than microsurfacing.
Commissioner Kramer asked about the status of the planned work on Palos Verdes Drive
South between the landslide area and Conqueror Drive.Senior Engineer Jules responded
that those improvements were planned as part of the bikeway-compatible shoulder project
through the landslide area,but there has recently been concern expressed about the
additional maintenance cost that would be attributed to increasing the pavement width in the
landslide area.
Chair Locascio asked if the installation of pilings to stop or slow the landslide movement has
been considered.Senior Engineer Jules responded that Senior Engineer Ron Dragoo is
entertaining several different options on how best to alleviate the problems attributed to the
landslide and provide a long-term fix.Chair Locascio responded that the pilings would have
to be set very deep,but they have been used successfully elsewhere to elevate a roadway
over water.Senior Engineer Jules replied that there will be lots of outreach and public
workshops coming up that will enable the pUblic to share their ideas on how they feel the City
•can best address the landslide area.
Commissioner Kramer asked what the connection is between this bikeway path compatibility
project in the slide area to the portion of Palos Verdes Drive South between the landslide
area and Conqueror Dr.Senior Engineer Jules responded that those improvements were all
part of the same grant.Commissioner Kramer asked if the paved portion of Palos Verdes
Drive South in the landslide area is wide enough already to include a bikeway-compatible
shoulder.Senior Engineer Jules responded that no,it is not currently wide enough,per the
current design standards.
1.Hawthorne Blvd Pedestrian Safe Bus Stop Linkage Project
Senior Engineer Jules explained that this project is funded by a grant received by the City in
order to create safe bus stop linkages on Hawthorne Blvd,between Crest Road and Palos
Verdes Drive West.She added that it is a $1.6 million project and that the design has been
started.She stated that she plans to meet with the Homeowners Associations along
Hawthorne Blvd to brief them on the elements of the project,which include sidewalks,ADA
ramps,and parkway beautification.
Commissioner Kramer asked if sidewalk will be placed only on the east side of Hawthorne
Blvd and Senior Engineer Jules responded that sidewalk will be placed on both sides of the
street.Commissioner Kramer questioned if the hillside on the west side of Hawthorne Blvd
would have to be cut back in order to make enough room for a sidewalk.Senior Engineer
Jules replied that,yes,some retaining walls will be needed,and that will be the more costly
part of the project.
1.Crest Road at Whitley Collins Pedestrian Crossing Project
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Senior Engineer Jules stated that City Council approved a modified project and so Staff is
entertaining quotes from the traffic engineering consultant,Willdan,to modify the plans and
cost estimate to the Rectangular Rapid Flashing Beacon (RRFB)design option that the City
Council selected.
Chair Locascio stated that he feels that it is a gross mistake for the City to be putting this
improvement in at this location since the warrants have not been met.
Commissioner Kramer commented that the Commission had voted to not put this
improvement in.
1.Safe Routes to School "Walk to School Program"-Ridgecrest Intermediate School
Senior Engineer Jules explained that the City received a $30,000 grant for the Walk to School
program and that Ridgecrest Intermediate School provided the best response and willingness
to participate in the program.She added that the current principal,Patrick Corwin,will be
retiring soon.She said that she,Deputy Knox,and Ruth Smith of Willdan have been working
with Mr.Brett Egan,Vice President of Ridgecrest Intermediate School.
Chair Locascio asked Senior Engineer Jules for a copy of the Safe Routes to School map.
She responded that it has not been created yet,and that one of the goals of this Safe Route
to School grant is to create one.She added that she will make it available to the
Commission once it has been created.
Senior Engineer Jules explained that part of the program includes having Deputy Knox
provide a safety and walking presentation to the students.
Senior Engineer Jules stated that the official Walk to School Day will be in October this year,
which will include an incentive program for students that walk to school.
Chair Locascio stated that the current rate of students walking to school at Ridgecrest is
70%,according to Principal Corwin,which is remarkable.
Senior Engineer Jules explained that the route map is generated in coordination with the
school.Chair Locascio suggested that the Homeowners Associations be included in the
school's discussion of the route.Senior Engineer Jules responded that the members of the
Homeowners Associations can contact the school directly if they wish to participate in the
route map generation process.
Commissioner Kramer asked if Staff will be revisiting the Miraleste Intermediate School/Palos
Verdes Drive East grant application.Senior Engineer Jules responded that Staff will not be
pursuing this grant this year since Staff is overwhelmed with other assignments.She added
that the Safe Routes to School grant application for this
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location has been denied three times now,but that Staff will try to submit it again next year
or in future years.
1.Residential Rehabilitation Project FY11-12 (Areas 3 &5)
Senior Engineer Jules reported that the design for this project will be starting soon.She
indicated to the Commission on the map where Areas 3 and 5 are located.
Commissioner Kramer asked how long the cycle is before a residential street is resurfaced
again.Senior Engineer Jules responded that Staff is trying hard to achieve a seven-year
cycle.
1.School Safety Updates
Chair Locascio asked Senior Engineer Jules for clarification on this agenda item and she
explained what it refers to.All of the Commissioners responded that they have no updates
and that everything is good.
Chair Locascio stated that Principal Corwin of Ridgecrest Intermediate School has been
asking for a crossing guard at the intersection of Northbay at Whitley Collins.Senior
Engineer Jules responded that she will look into the warrants for that as part of the Safe
Routes to School grant project.
1.Subcommittee Updates
Commissioner Kramer shared a bicycle subcommittee report with the Commission regarding
a confrontation that occurred between a cyclist and a motorist on northbound Palos Verdes
Drive East on April 4,2012.The cyclist involved in the confrontation posted a video of the
motorist and the license plate of the vehicle online.The cyclist also filed a police report,and
two other cyclists have since noted that they have also had run-ins with this particular
motorist in the past.Commissioner Kramer explained that he is very concerned about this
incident for several reasons.He described an incident that occurred on Mandeville Canyon in
2008 in which a motorist,Dr.Christopher Thompson,who had a history of driving
aggressively around CYClists,ended up seriously injuring two cyclists by hitting them with his
car.Commissioner Kramer added that he would hate to see anyone injured in this City as a
result of road rage.
Commissioner Kramer commented that this particular section of Palos Verdes Drive East
seems to be problematic for some reason.He described a similar confrontational situation
that he was personally involved in with a motorist.
Commissioner Kramer stated that the mentality of "needing to teach bicyclists a lesson"and
taking matters into their own hands needs to be stopped.He concluded by stating that he
hopes that something positive will come of the filing of the police report regarding this
incident on Palos Verdes Drive East.
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Chair Locascio responded that the Commission needs to think about ways that it can get this
message out to the public,such as the City bulletin and Whale of a Day,Fourth of July,or
other events that the Commission can have a public traffic safety display at.He also
suggested putting this information on the City's website.Chair Locascio added that he feels
similarly about people turning their lights on when it is foggy out.He clarified that this anti-
bicyclist behavior seems to be more than just an oversight like forgetting to turn your
headlights on,but rather inappropriate behavior and expectations on the part of motorists.
Senior Engineer Jules asked the Commissioners if they would like to retain the "Share the
Road"buttons.The Commissioners responded yes,so she said that she would check how
many are left.
Associate Engineer Murphy asked if the Commission wants the message to be kept the
same or if the Commission would like to modify it.Commissioner Kramer responded that he
would like the message to remain the same since the focus is on all modes of transportation.
He added that he had read a well-written letter to the editor in a newspaper that pointed out
that roadways are designed to move people using any mode of transportation,and that
roadways were first paved for use by bicycles.
Commissioner Kramer asked about the booth at the last Whale of a Day event.Senior
Engineer Jules responded that she heard that there were some problems with the setup of
the booth and will do a better job at coordinating the booth next time.
Chair Locascio stated that he does not want to point fingers,but hopefully if someone agrees
to be there,they can stick around until someone else can take over.He also stated that he
will be unavailable for the July Fourth event.
1.Upcoming Roadway/Special Events
Habitat for Humanity:Senior Engineer Jules reported that a small group of riders originated
at Terranea for their ride.She said that there were no complaints received about the event
and that it was a success.
Commissioner Kramer asked about an organized ride that he observed taking place in the
City on April 14th on Hawthorne Blvd and Palos Verdes Drive South.Senior Engineer Jules
responded that she was not aware of any event taking place that day.
Tour de Cure:Senior Engineer Jules reported that all permit requirements have been
satisfied for this event,that it is the third year that they are doing it,and that they always hire
the Sheriffs Department to assist with traffic control.She then described the route that the
event takes through the City.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Recommendation:
Approve the Minutes of the February 27,2012 meeting.
Commission Discussion and Staff Questions
Chair Locascio commented that he did not agree with the last sentence of Tom Redfield's
comments that were made during the public comments portion of that meeting.He explained
that he felt it was inappropriate to classify all traffic incidents as crimes since many are
accidents or unintentional.Chair Locascio also requested an edit to a sentence in the last
paragraph on page 5 of 16,and the addition of the word "probably"to a sentence on page 11
of 16 regarding skateboarding.
ACTION TAKEN:
Commissioner Kramer moved to approve the Minutes of the Traffic Safety Commission
meeting of February 27,2012 as amended,seconded by Vice Chair Klatt.
Motion approved:
Ayes 4,Nays 0
Abstain:Commissioner Self
Commission Discussion and Staff Questions
Chair Locascio requested to have the Commission meet on June 4th instead of June 25th.
Senior Engineer Jules responded that the Community Room will not be available on June
4th,so she will have to check if there are any suitable meeting places available for the Traffic
Safety Commission's use on that date.The Commission discussed the combining of the
May and June meetings to the June meeting since the May meeting date falls on the
Memorial Day holiday.It was agreed that the June 25th date would be the back-up date for
the June meeting if the June 4th date cannot be accommodated.
ADJOURNMENT:
Meeting adjourned at 9:00pm to the next meeting of the Traffic Safety Commission on June
4,2012.
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RESOLUTION NO.2012-_
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS
VERDES ESTABLISHING THE PROHIBITION OF THE USE OF SKATEBOARDS,
AND SIMILAR NON-MOTORIZED WHEELED DEVICES ON VIA COLINITA,PALOS
VERDES DRIVE EAST,SILVER ARROW DRIVE,HAWTHORNE BLVD,GANADO
DRIVE,CREST ROAD EAST,CREST ROAD WEST,CRENSHAW BLVD,
BROWNDEER LANE,VERDE RIDGE ROAD,LOCKLENNA LANE AND MIRALESTE
DRIVE
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES DOES
HEREBY FIND,ORDER AND RESOLVE AS FOLLOWS:
WHEREAS,Section 12.16.120 of the Rancho Palos Verdes Municipal Code
authorizes the City Council to prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline
skates,non-motorized scooters and other similar non-motorized devices with wheels of
six inches or less in diameter upon a public street,sidewalk,alley or roadway within the
City by resolution;and
WHEREAS,Deputies of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department,who
perform law enforcement work on behalf of the City,have observed dangerous behavior
by skateboarders on certain streets within the City,which are steep and circuitous;and
WHEREAS,the City Council has determined that there is a need to prohibit
skateboards and similar non-motorized wheeled devices on the streets,sidewalks,
alleys and roadways set forth in this Resolution to protect the health,safety and welfare
of pedestrians,motorists,and persons using the skateboards and other similar non-
motorized devices;
NOW,THEREFORE THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS
VERDES DOES HEREBY RESOLVE AND ORDER AS FOLLOWS:
Section 1.Required Findings.Based on the foregoing recitals,all of which are
incorporated herein by this reference,the City Council finds that skateboards and
similar non-motorized wheeled devices are hereby prohibited on Via Colinita,Palos
Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,Hawthorne Blvd,Ganado Drive,Crest Road
East,Crest Road West,Crenshaw Blvd,Browndeer Lane,Verde Ridge Road,
Locklenna Lane and Miraleste Drive.This prohibition is necessary to reduce traffic
hazards created by skateboarders and other users of non-motorized vehicles on steep
streets within the City and,accordingly,is necessary to protect the health,safety and
welfare of pedestrians,motorists and persons operating skateboards and other non-
motorized devices on these streets.For these reasons,the City Council finds pursuant
to Section 12.16.120 of the Rancho Palos Verdes Municipal Code,that the prohibition of
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skateboards and other similar non-motorized wheeled devices on the streets listed in
Section 2 of this Resolution is necessary to avoid the adverse impacts upon public
safety caused by the use of these activities at these locations.
Section 2.Designation of Prohibited Streets.Based upon the findings in
Section 1,the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,non-motorized scooters
and other similar non-motorized devices with wheels of six inches or less in diameter
is hereby prohibited on the following streets:
Via Colin ita
Palos Verdes Drive East
Silver Arrow Drive
Hawthorne Blvd
Ganado Drive
Crest Road East
Crest Road West
Crenshaw Blvd
Browndeer Lane
Verde Ridge Road
Locklenna Lane
Miraleste Drive
Section 3.Designation of Prohibition.The prohibition of the use of
skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,non-motorized scooters and other similar non-
motorized devices with wheels of six inches or less in diameter listed in Section 2 above
shall be set forth as follows:
"PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 12.16.120 OF THE RANCHO
PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE,SKATEBOARDS,ROLLER SKATES,
INLINE SKATES,AND NON-MOTORIZED SCOOTERS ARE PROHIBITED"
Section 4.Posting of Signs.The prohibitions contained in Section 3 of this
Resolution shall not become effective until signs have been posted giving adequate
notice of the prohibitions imposed by this resolution on the streets designated herein.
The Director of Public Works is hereby authorized to erect such signs.
Section 5.The City Clerk shall certify to the passage and adoption of this
Resolution.
PASSED,APPROVED and ADOPTED this __day of 2012.
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ANTHONY MISETICH,Mayor
ATTEST:
CARLA MORREALE,City Clerk
State of California )
County of Los Angeles )ss
City of Rancho Palos Verdes )
I,Carla Morreale,City Clerk of the City of Rancho Palos Verdes,hereby
certify that the above Resolution No.2012-_,was duly and regularly passed and
adopted by the said City Council at a regular meeting thereof held on ,2012.
CARLA MORREALE,City Clerk
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Nicole Jules
From:Nicole Jules [nicolej@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,February 06,2012 1:20 PM
To:'Lisa Hurley-Jaksic';Traffic@rpv.com
Cc:CC@rpv.com;'Tom adorn';'Ray Holland'
Subject:RE:Traffic Safety
Greetings Dr.&Mrs.Jaksic,
Thank you for contacting the City regarding skateboarding issues on Via Colinita.On December 4,2001,
the City Council adopted Ordinance 371 which established regulations for the enforcement of
skateboarding activities on public and private property.As correctly pointed out in your email,per
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120,the City Council,by Resolution and Notice,can designate an area
closed to skateboarding activities. With concurrence from the Lomita Sheriff's Department,the following
streets will be recommended for skateboarding restrictions:
*Via Colinita .
*Palos Verdes Drive East
*Silver Arrow Drive
*Hawthorne Blvd
*Ganado Drive
*Crest Road (East and West)
*Crenshaw Blvd
*Browndeer Lane
Before forwarding this item to City Council for consideration,the Traffic Safety Commission will,at its
February 27,2012 meeting,discuss,evaluate and render a recommendation that will be tentatively
scheduled for the March 6,2012 City Council meeting.If you would like to discuss this matter further,feel
free to contact me at 310-544-5252.
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Nicole Jules,P.E.
Senior Engineer
Department of Public Works
30940 Hawthorne Blvd
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310.544.5275
310.544.5292 fax
From:Lisa Hurley-Jaksic [mailto:lhurley23@cox.net]
sent:Sunday,February 05,2012 7:23 PM
To:Traffic@rpv.com
Subject:Traffic Safety
Attn:
Traffic Commission
This letter has been sent to the Mayor and City Council.
We are concerned and frustrated residents living on Via Colinita in Rancho Palos Verdes.The issue the
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residents of Via Colinita are having is with skateboarders interfering with traffic on the street.Large groups of
kids are riding from the top of Via Colinita to the bottom of the street.A majority of these kids are under the
age of eighteen and not wearing helmets.Via Colin ita already cannot accommodate two cars going up and
down the street at the same time especially with cars parked on both sides and also having FIVE blind corners on
the street.The street is very steep allowing the skateboarders to gain great speed and the less skilled are often
seen falling into the bushes and street to avoid oncoming cars.These kids are brazen enough to stop oncoming
traffic headed up the street and insist they give them a tow to the top from their bumper so they can ride again.
Others have their own drivers following dangerously close behind the group and then give rides back to the top.
One of our neighbors was in an accident with a skateboarder flying out of a driveway as she came around a blind
curve.She was visibly shaken by the incident as the skateboarder nearly went thru her windshield but managed
to jump high enough to roll off the top of her car and not get run over.Can you imagine the shock and terror
thinking you nearly killed someone thru no fault of your own?He did sustain some injuries and was taken to the
hospital by ambulance.Both Sheriff and Fire Department were called out.There have been numerous other
close calls with other residents on the street.There is not one group of kids but several coming every day after
school,as well as weekends and holidays interfering with traffic on the street and harassing and intimidating
neighbors.The residents place calls every day to the Lomita Sheriff Department regarding this matter.
Unfortunately,their hands are tied,as long as there are no posted warnings against such activities.
The only solution to this dangerous problem is for the city council to approve posting signage at both entrances
to Via Colinita stating:PURSUANT OF SECTION 12.16.120 OF THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE,NO
SKATEBOARDERS,ROLLER SKATES,INLINESKATES,OR SCOOTERS,IS PERMITTED.Please look at this serious
matter before one of these kids gets seriously hurt or killed.The more quickly you approve of posting a sign,the
less likely a child will be killed.
Sincerely,
Dr.Nicholas &Lisa H Jaksic
6504 Via Colinita
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA.90275
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Nicole Jules
From:John Freeman Urfree@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 5:43 PM
To:traffic@rpv.com
Cc:Nicole Jules
Subject:Re:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Dear Traffic Safety Commission:
Re:Agenda Item #1
Please also include skateboarding prohibitions for Verde Ridge Rd.and Locklenna Lane
and forward to the city council.As you know both of these streets are dangerously
steep and both are adjacent to Hesse Park,which attracts many youth-oriented
activities of ~imilar age to many skateboarders.The City Council is also considering
expanding the use of Lower Hesse Park to the public which could exacerbate the
skateboarding dangers near Hesse Park even more.
John Freeman,President
Pacific View Homeowners Association
www.palosverdes.com/pacificview
"Working Together for a Better Neighborhood"
From:rpvlistserver@rpv.com [mailto:rpvlistserver@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 3:51 PM
To:john@jrfreeman.com
Subject:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
AGENDA RANCHO PALOS VERDES TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION FEBRUARY 27,
2012 CITY HALL -COMMUNITY ROOM 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M.REGULAR SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
ROLLCALL
FLAG SALUTE
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CHAIR'S COMMUNICATION SHERIFF'S STATUS REPORT PUBLIC COMMENTS
This section of the agenda is for audience comments for items not on the agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
1.ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS
Recommendation:Prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters and
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similar wheeled devices on Via Colinita,Palos Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,Hawthorne Blvd,
Ganado Drive,Crest Road (East and West),Crenshaw Blvd and Browndeer Lane in accordance with
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120 and forward staffs recommendation to the City Council for
consideration.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
1.Palos Verdes Drive South Arterial Rehabilitation Project 2.School Safety Updates 3.Subcommittee
Updates 4.Upcoming Roadway/Special Events -City ofRPV -Whale of A Day (3/3/11)Peninsula
High School Walk For Life (3/9/12)Habitat For Humanity Bike Ride (4/21/12)Tour de Cure Bike Ride
(4/29/12)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Recommendation:Approve the minutes of the December 12,2011 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:Adjourn to a time and place certain only if you wish to meet prior to the next regular
meeting.
American with Disabilities Act:In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990,if you
require a disability-related modification or accommodation to attend or participate in this meeting,
including auxiliary aids or services,please call the Department of Public Works at 310-544-5252 at least
48 hours prior to the meeting.
Note:Staff reports are available for inspection at City Hall,30940 Hawthorne Boulevard during regular
business hours 7:30 A.M.to 5:30 P.M.Monday -Thursday and 7:30 A.M.to 4:30 P.M.on Friday.
Materials related to an item on this agenda submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission after distribution
of the agenda packet are available for public inspection at the front counter ofthe lobby on the City Hall
Administration Building/Public Works at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,Rancho Palos Verdes during
normal business hours.You can also view the agenda and staff reports at the City's website
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From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Page 1 of6
Nicole Jules
A.H.Emon [alif@cox.net]
Friday,February 24,2012 8:39 AM
RPV Traffic City Hall
Nicole Jules RPV Traffic &PW;John Freeman PVHA;Bert Nastanski;Dorothy Weeks;George
Wong;Joe Chidley;Noel Park;Sharon Fair;Willie Quan;Les Chapin PVHA
Subject:A Request:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Importance:High
To:traffic@rpv.com ,
RPV,Public Works,
Cc:Nicole Jules,
RPV Senior Engineer,
Subject:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Dear Traffic Safety Commission:
Re:Agenda Item #1
This is a follow-up request to my colleague John Freeman's earlier
request which is attached here in the e-mail chain below.
Since the following streets in the Pacific View Homeowners area
and in its vicinity also have measurable gradients,please consider
to include them for "skateboarding prohibitions"along with Verde Ridge
Rd.and Locklenna Lane:
1.EI Rodeo Rd.
2.Kings Harbor
3.Madeline Cove,
4.Abbotswood,
5.Faircove,
However,Verde Ridge Rd.and Locklenna Lane are dangerously steep,
and they are also in immediate vicinity of Hesse Park."Prohibitions"on
these two arteries is of a higher priority.
P.S: I am thankful to Nicole Jules,RPV Senior Engineer,for her
prompt action in the past,and her feedback.
Thanks.
Akhtar H.Emon
Board member,
Pacific View Homeowners Association,
Res:6631,EI Rodeo Rd.
RPV,CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/pacificview
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From:Nicole Jules [mailto:nicolej@rpv.coml
Sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 5:55 PM
To:'John Freeman';traffic@rpv.com
Subject:RE:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Mr.Freeman,
Thank you for your comments.Staff will consider including Verde Ridge Road and Locklenna Lane in the
recommendation to the Traffic Commission.
Your request will be included as late correspondence.
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Nicole Jules,P.E.
Senior Engineer
Department of Public Works
30940 Hawthorne Blvd
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310.544.5275
310.544.5292 fax
From:John Freeman [mailto:jrfree@cox.netl
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 5:43 PM
To:traffic@rpv.com
Cc:Nicole Jules
Subject:Re:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Dear Traffic Safety Commission:
Re:Agenda Item #1
Please also include skateboarding prohibitions for Verde Ridge Rd.and Locklenna Lane and
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forward to the city council.As you know both of these streets are dangerously steep and both
are adjacent to Hesse Park,which attracts many youth-oriented activities of similar age to
many skateboarders.The City Council is also considering expanding the use of Lower Hesse
Park to the public which could exacerbate the skateboarding dangers near Hesse Park even
more.
John Freeman,President
Pacific View Homeowners Association
www.palosverdes.com/pacificview
"Working Together for a Better Neighborhood"
From:rpvlistserver@rpv.com [mailto:rpvlistserver@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 3:51 PM
To:john@jrfreeman.com
Subject:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
AGENDA RANCHO PALOS VERDES TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION FEBRUARY 27,2012
CITY HALL -COMMUNITY ROOM 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M.REGULAR SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
ROLLCALL
FLAG SALUTE
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CHAIR'S COMMUNICATION SHERIFF'S STATUS REPORT PUBLIC COMMENTS
This section of the agenda is for audience comments for items not on the agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
1.ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS
Recommendation:Prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters and similar
wheeled devices on Via Colinita,Palos Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,Hawthorne Blvd,
Ganado Drive,Crest Road (East and West),Crenshaw Blvd and Browndeer Lane in accordance with
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120 and forward staffs recommendation to the City Council for
consideration.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
6/25/2012 2-30
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1.Palos Verdes Drive South Arterial Rehabilitation Project 2.School Safety Updates 3.Subcommittee
Updates 4.Upcoming Roadway/Special Events -City of RPV -Whale of A Day (3/3/11)Peninsula
High School Walk For Life (3/9/12)Habitat For Humanity Bike Ride (4/21/12)Tour de Cure Bike Ride
(4/29/12)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Recommendation:Approve the minutes of the December 12,2011 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:Adjourn to a time and place certain only if you wish to meet prior to the next regular
meeting.
American with Disabilities Act:In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990,if you
require a disability-related modification or accommodation to attend or participate in this meeting,
including auxiliary aids or services,please call the Department of Public Works at 310-544-5252 at least
48 hours prior to the meeting.
Note:Staff reports are available for inspection at City Hall,30940 Hawthorne Boulevard during regular
business hours 7:30 A.M.to 5:30 P.M.Monday -Thursday and 7:30 A.M.to 4:30 P.M.on Friday.
Materials related to an item on this agenda submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission after distribution
ofthe agenda packet are available for public inspection at the front counter ofthe lobby on the City Hall
Administration Building/Public Works at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,Rancho Palos Verdes during
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AGENDA RANCHO PALOS VERDES TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION FEBRUARY 27,2012
6/25/2012 2-31
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CITY HALL -COMMUNITY ROOM 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M.REGULAR SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
ROLLCALL
FLAG SALUTE
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CHAIR'S COMMUNICATION SHERIFF'S STATUS REPORT PUBLIC COMMENTS
This section of the agenda is for audience comments for items not on the agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
1.ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS
Recommendation:Prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters and similar
wheeled devices on Via Colinita,Palos Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,Hawthorne Blvd,
Ganado Drive,Crest Road (East and West),Crenshaw Blvd and Browndeer Lane in accordance with
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120 and forward staffs recommendation to the City Council for
consideration.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
1.Palos Verdes Drive South Arterial Rehabilitation Project 2.School Safety Updates 3.Subcommittee
Updates 4.Upcoming Roadway/Special Events -City ofRPV -Whale of A Day (3/3/11)Peninsula
High School Walk For Life (3/9/12)Habitat For Humanity Bike Ride (4/21/12)Tour de Cure Bike Ride
(4/29/12)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Recommendation:Approve the minutes of the December 12,2011 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:Adjourn to a time and place certain only if you wish to meet prior to the next regular
meeting.
American with Disabilities Act:In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990,if you
require a disability-related modification or accommodation to attend or participate in this meeting,
including auxiliary aids or services,please call the Department of Public Works at 310-544-5252 at least
48 hours prior to the meeting.
Note:Staff reports are available for inspection at City Hall,30940 Hawthorne Boulevard during regular
business hours 7:30 A.M.to 5:30 P.M.Monday -Thursday and 7:30 A.M.to 4:30 P.M.on Friday.
Materials related to an item on this agenda submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission after distribution
of the agenda packet are available for public inspection at the front counter of the lobby on the City Hall
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Administration Building/Public Works at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,Rancho Palos Verdes during
normal business hours.You can also view the agenda and staff reports at the City's website
http://www.palosverdes.comlRPV
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Nicole Jules
From:Roberta Marinelli [rmarinel@dornsife.usc.edu]
Sent:Saturday,February 25,2012 1:25 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;traffic@rpv.com
Subject:Skateboarders and related activities at Via Colinita
Dear Members of the City Council and the Traffic Safety Commission
I write to express my concerns over the suggestion that Via Colinita be designated as a 'no skateboarding'
zone.I recently moved to this street and learned of the desire to exclude skateboarders at a recent
neighborhood watch meeting.
First - I wish to underscore my concern for the safety of my neighbors (and myself)on the street.I
understand that several neighbors have had very negative interactions with skateboarders,that range from
serious injury to 'boarders',and significant destruction of property.There is understandable alarm over,and
concern for the safety of,those that do not wear helmets.It is an unfortunate situation,and one that
demands that drivers and boarders -both -be watchful and considerate.
In my attempt to encourage safety,I have engaged these daredevils.I have discussed kids I have known,
who have lost their lives through skateboarding accidents -by going too fast or not wearing helmets.I
have been met with sheepish grins that accompany the sense of invulnerable youth,but never rudeness or
disregard for my concern.
I also have a husband and three sons who enjoy skateboarding -not the fast kind -but the act of simply
cruising on the street to transit from one point to another,faster than walking.A fun mode of
transportation,and with little environmental impact.I also work at a University campus where students and
faculty use skateboards daily -they are an accepted mode of transportation.And they are 'green'.
As much as we like to protect ourselves and our youth,there are limits to what our government can and
should do.Occasionally at night,I hear cars screeching around the Colinita bends,a very unsafe behavior.
However we have not excluded cars from the street.Many young and not-so-young individuals ride bikes
down the long hills of the Palos Verdes peninsula -one wrong move and they could be toast.However,we
haven't enacted a rule against cycling.
So - a cautionary note.If we legislate against every unsafe behavior,we'd have a busy police force,one
that might not be able to keep up with serious crimes,and we'd lose alot of freedoms.The ban on
skateboards strikes me as too selective,too prescriptive,and too restrictive.Accordingly I do not support it.
Roberta L.Marinelli,Ph.D.
6424 Via Colin ita
Roberta L.Marinelli,Director
Wrigley Institute for Environmental Studies
University of Southern california
Los Angeles,CA 90089-0371
Office:213-740-4861
FAX:213-740-6720
Email:rmarinel@usc.edu
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Sent:
To:
Cc:
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Nicole Jules
From:LeslieChapin [Ies.alice@cox.net]
Saturday,February 25,20124:03 PM
nicolej@rpv.com
Akhtar Emon;Bert Nastanski;Dorothy Weeks;Jim Moore;Joe Chidley;Noel Park;Sharon Fair;Willam
Quan;traffic@rpv.com
Subject:Re:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Dear Nicole,
My name is Les Chapin and I live at 6710 Verde Ridge Road.There have been instances of
young persons skateboarding on Verde Ridge Road with a small pick up truck following the
skateboarders down to the cul-de-sac at the bottom of Verde Ridge and bringing them back to
the top for another ride down.It is observed that these young skateboarders are not wearing
any type of safety equipment.I certainly agree with Mr Freeman,our current president of the
Pacific View Homeowners Association,that both Verde Ridge Road and Locklenna Lane be
added to the list of streets being recommended for skateboarding closure.
It seems like it would be a good idea to go more public with this issue to be sure that..!!!the
candidate for closure streets within our very hilly RPV be identified.Closure of only those
streets being recommended by deputy Knox,and additionally Verde Ridge Road and Locklenna
Lane will cause the skateboarders to move to other candidate streets?City monies can
probably be saved if the total number of signs needed are identified and the signs ordered and
installed all in one lot?
Thank you Nicole,the traffic commission and especially Deputy Knox for working to keep our
RPV streets safe for all!!
Les
From:John Freeman
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 6:46 PM
To:Akhtar Emon ;Bert Nastanski ;Dorothy Weeks;George Wong;Joe Chidley ;Noel Park;Sharon
Fair;Willie Quan
Cc:Les Chapin
Subject:Re:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Also,see attached staff report for the 2/27/2012 Traffic Meeting.
From:Nicole Jules [mailto:nicolej@rpv.comJ
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 5:55 PM
To:'John Freeman';traffic@rpv.com
Subject:RE:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Mr.Freeman,
Thank you for your comments.Staff will consider including Verde Ridge Road and Locklenna Lane in the
recommendation to the Traffic Commission.
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Your request will be included as late correspondence.
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Nicole ,Jules,P.E.
Senior Engineer
Department of Public Works
30940 Hawthorne Blvd
R.ancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310.544.5275
310.544.5292 fax
From:John Freeman mailto:%5bmailto:jrfree@cox.net%5d
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 5:43 PM
To:traffic@rpv.com
Cc:Nicole Jules
Subject:Re:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
Dear Traffic Safety Commission:
Re:Agenda Item #1
Please also include skateboarding prohibitions for Verde Ridge Rd.and Locklenna Lane and
forward to the city council.As you know both of these streets are dangerously steep and both
are adjacent to Hesse Park,which attracts many youth-oriented activities of similar age to
many skateboarders.The City Council is also considering expanding the use of Lower Hesse
Park to the public which could exacerbate the skateboarding dangers near Hesse Park even
more.
John Freeman,President
Pacific View Homeowners Association
www.palosverdes.com/pacificview
"Working Together for a Better Neighborhood"
From:rpvlistserver@rpv.com mailto:%5bmailto:rpvlistserver@rpv.com%5d
sent:Thursday,February 23,2012 3:51 PM
To:john@jrfreeman.com
Subject:Traffic Safety Commission Meeting Agenda for 2/27/12
AGENDA RANCHO PALOS VERDES TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION FEBRUARY 27,2012
CITY HALL -COMMUNITY ROOM 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M.REGULAR SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
ROLLCALL
FLAG SALUTE
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CHAIR'S COMMUNICATION SHERIFF'S STATUS REPORT PUBLIC COMMENTS
6/25/2012 2-36
Page 3 of4
This section of the agenda is for audience comments for items not on the agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
1.ESTABLISH SKATEBOARDING RESTRICTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS
Recommendation:Prohibit the use of skateboards,roller skates,inline skates,scooters and similar
wheeled devices on Via Colinita,Palos Verdes Drive East,Silver Arrow Drive,Hawthorne Blvd,
Ganado Drive,Crest Road (East and West),Crenshaw Blvd and Browndeer Lane in accordance with
Municipal Code Section 12.16.120 and forward staffs recommendation to the City Council for
consideration.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
1.Palos Verdes Drive South Arterial Rehabilitation Project 2.School Safety Updates 3.Subcommittee
Updates 4.Upcoming Roadway/Special Events -City of RPV -Whale of A Day (3/3/11)Peninsula
High School Walk For Life (3/9/12)Habitat For Humanity Bike Ride (4/21/12)Tour de Cure Bike Ride
(4/29/12)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Recommendation:Approve the minutes of the December 12,2011 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:Adjourn to a time and place certain only if you wish to meet prior to the next regular
meeting.
American with Disabilities Act:In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990,if you
require a disability-related modification or accommodation to attend or participate in this meeting,
including auxiliary aids or services,please call the Department of Public Works at 310-544-5252 at least
48 hours prior to the meeting.
Note:Staff reports are available for inspection at City Hall,30940 Hawthorne Boulevard during regular
business hours 7:30 A.M.to 5:30 P.M.Monday -Thursday and 7:30 A.M.to 4:30 P.M.on Friday.
Materials related to an item on this agenda submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission after distribution
of the agenda packet are available for public inspection at the front counter of the lobby on the City Hall
Administration Building/Public Works at 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard,Rancho Palos Verdes during
normal business hours.You can also view the agenda and staff reports at the City's website
http://www.palosverdes.com/RPV
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seniors,and free web pages to non-profit organizations since 1995.Click here for information about free classes
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Nicole Jules
From:Tom Redfield [tmredfield@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,March 07,2012 4:44 PM
To:safety@rpv.com
Cc:tomo@rpv.com;nicolej@rpv.com;carolynnp@rpv.com;cc@rpv.com
Subject:SKATE BOARDING FEEDBACK.
TO:RPV TRAFFIC &SAFETY COMMISSION MEMBERS ...
I WISH TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR FOCUS ON ATTEMPTING TO CREATE FAR MORE
SAFER SKATE BOARDING CONDITIONS FOR THE YOUNG RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY.I JUST
HAPPENED TO READ A MAJOR ARTICLE ON THE NEW COUNCILMAN FROM SAN PEDRO ...JOE
BUSCAINO.HE MADE AN APPEARANCE DURING LAST EVENING'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING ...
AND APPEARS TO BE BRINGING A MORE ACTION ORIENTED APPROACH TO CITY
GOVERNMENT.
THERE IS AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND IN THE MARCH 2012 ISSUE OF,
"SAN PEDRO TODAY."ONE OF HIS QUOTES MADE A HEADLINE ..."THE LAST THING I WANT TO
DO IS CITE A KID FOR SKATEBOARDING.BUT,IF IT'S GOING TO SAVE A LIFE AND WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPT.CITE KIDS FOR SKATEBOARDING ON A STREET,SO BE IT!"
WE KNOW IT'S TOUGH TO PLACE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON ANY STREET ACTIVITY IN
RPV ....SOMETIMES,TO SAVE L1VES ...WE MUST TAKE THAT STEP.I SHOULD NOTE THAT SAN
PEDRO HAS EXPERIENCED MANY SKATEBOARDING INJURIES ...INCLUDING TWO RECENT
DEATHS.WE THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THIS PROJECT.SINCERELY,TOM R.
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