RPVCCA_CC_SR_2012_02_21_03_Uses_At_Rancho_Palos_Verdes_BeachCITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
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HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CAROLYNN PETRU,DEPUTY CITY MANAGERIINTERI~
RECREATION AND PARKS DIRECTOR
FEBRUARY 21,2012
SUBJECT:USES AT RANCHO PALOS VERDES BEACH
REVIEWED:CAROLYN LEHR,CITY MANAGER ~
Staff Coordinator:Katie Howe,Administrative Analyst II ~
RECOMMENDATION
(1)Consider dog beach research and community outreach regarding a potential dog
beach at Rancho Palos Verdes Beach;and,(2)Provide staff with direction on future
uses at the beach.
BACKGROUND
The City acquired Rancho Palos Verdes (RPV)Beach in May 2011.The beach is
approximately five acres in size,is located below the Trump National Golf Course,and
is accessed through Trump National Golf Course and Founders Park (see Attachment
"A").For many years,while under private ownership,Rancho Palos Verdes Beach has
been used as an unofficial off-leash dog beach.In summer 2011,Los Angeles County
Lifeguards reported usage at the beach averaging 140 people and 47 dogs daily,with
numbers increasing on weekends.The City's current Municipal Code prohibits dogs on
beaches and requires dogs to be on-leash in all other public spaces.On August 16,
2011,City Council received a status update on the beach and directed staff to conduct
dog beach research and solicit community feedback on desired uses at the beach.
DISCUSSION
There are circumstances particular to RPV Beach that require attention if the City
chooses to allow dogs on the beach.Some of these include potential conflicts between
different beach user groups;impacts on adjacent property owners;limited parking and
access routes to the beach;sand and water quality considerations;and,the cost of
administration,maintenance and enforcement.Research conducted on California dog
beaches (see Attachment "B")provides greater detail regarding public health and
environmental protection;the permitting process;safety and liability;and access and
parking.In addition,enforcement,maintenance and environmental analysis needs and
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associated costs (see Attachment "C"),the results and staff's analysis of the
community outreach effort,(see Attachment "E")and a sample off-leash dog beach pilot
program (see Attachment "D")are also attached for the Council's consideration.
Dog Beach Analysis
A summary of staff's research and analysis regarding allowing dogs on Rancho Palos
Verdes Beach is summarized below.
Benefits and Strengths
•Based on the input received to date,there is strong support from the general public
for off-leash dog use at RPV Beach.
•RPV Beach has been used for many years as an informal off-leash dog beach.
•Allowing dogs on the beach would not displace a large number of recreational water
users,as the area is not generally used as a swimming beach,because the near
shore water contains rocks and prolific kelp growth.
•The beach is contained to a degree by Half Way Point and the coastal bluffs,which
act as natural physical barriers to buffer the uses on the beach from the immediately
adjacent properties.
•Public restrooms and drinking fountains are located above the beach at the Trump
National Clubhouse.In addition,trash cans and Mutt Mitt stations are provided in
Founders Park.
•The dog park site analysis project is concurrently underway and entails working with
a consultant to identify the best locations on the Peninsula for a dog park.Locating a
dog park on the Peninsula may alleviate attendance at an RPV Dog Beach;
however,public outreach has shown that there is desire for both a dog beach at
RPV Beach and a more easily accessible dog park.
Challenges and Constraints
•RPV Beach would be only the third legal dog beach in all of Los Angeles County,
which is likely to increase usage significantly as public awareness spreads.
•Two adjacent land owners (Trump National Golf Course and the Portuguese Bend
Club)oppose off-leash dog use at the beach because of negative impacts on the
safety and operations of their respective facilities.
•Some RPV Beach user groups have voiced concern about conflicting uses,including
surfers,parents and grandparents with children,and beach visitors that prefer not to
encounter dogs or dog waste when visiting the beach.
•The adopted Public Use Amenities Plan for the golf course did not anticipate or
provide for large increases in use in the open space areas;therefore,there is no
opportunity for additional parking and limited ability to increase amenities.
•Primary access to the beach is through Trump National Golf Course and Founders
Park.Increased usage is creating congestion as multiple user groups access
different aspects of the site through a constricted main entry point.
•Challenging access down to RPV Beach via a steep,unimproved trail may result in
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delayed emergency response time to the beach.
•Providing infrastructure on the beach (restrooms,drinking fountains,and
telephones)would be cost prohibitive due to the steep terrain and distance from
existing facility infrastructure.
•Increased usage may increase attendance of dog owners with aggressive dogs.
Liability
In California,dog owners are strictly liable for dog bites that occur in public places or
when the person is lawfully in a private place.Should the City proceed with a dog
beach,whether dogs are allowed on-leash or off-leash,owners would be liable for
injuries caused by their dogs.Dog beach rules and regulations should be prominently
posted,and the City and its agents (the MRCA Rangers and Sheriff's Department)
would be'responsible for enforcement of the rules.Signage would also be required
demarcating the boundaries of any leash free areas along with requirements that
owners must be able to control their dogs and keep their dogs in that area.More
information on liability and safety is provided in Attachment "B."
Off-Leash Vs.On-Leash Dog Beach Use
If the City Council is inclined to allow dogs at RPV Beach,it must then decide whether
to allow off-leash dog use or on-leash dog use.On-leash dog use provides owners with
more immediate control of their pets,and may minimize conflicts between dogs and
different beach user groups and adjacent property owners and may limit instances of
dogs wandering off-leash into restricted areas.On the other hand,public outreach
shows that there is strong support for an off-leash recreational dog area,which also
provides dogs with easy access in and out of the water.
Process and Timeline
Establishing a Dog Beach at RPV Beach
The following steps would be necessary to implement either an off-leash or an on-leash
dog beach at RPV Beach:
1.RFP released and consultants selected to perform environmental impact
analysis.(March 2012 -April 2012)
2.Consultants assess potential environmental impacts (on native species and
water quality)of dogs on RPV Beach and City staff prepares required
Environmental Analysis.(April 2012 -August 2012)
3.Increase MRCA Park Ranger presence at Founders Park and on public trails at
Trump National Golf Course to educate and enforce rules pertaining to dogs off-
leash and picking up dog waste.(March 2012 -August 2012)
4.City Council review and action on the Environmental Analysis and Code
Amendment.(August 2012)
5.Planning Commission review and action on the Coastal Permit and Conditional
Use Permit for the necessary improvements to the beach (September 2012)
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6.12-Month Pilot Dog Beach Program,with written quarterly reports,to analyze and
address any impacts.(October 2012 -October 2013)
7.Council review of the 12-Month Pilot Dog Beach Program to determine if dog
beach use should continue.(November 2013)
Prohibiting Dogs on RPV Beach
1.Modify the Sign Plan and amend the existing Coastal Permit for the golf course
for signage on the beach necessary for enforcement.(April 2012)
2.Increase MRCA Park Ranger enforcement at RPV Beach.(ongoing)
ALTERNATIVES
1.Ditect staff to pursue establishment of an off-leash dog use on RPV Beach.
2.Direct staff to pursue establishment of an on-leash dog use on RPV Beach.
3.Make no changes to the City's Municipal Code and direct staff to enforce current
regulations prohibiting dogs on RPV Beach.
FISCAL IMPACT
If the City pursues a dog beach pilot program,the costs would be split into two phases.
The 6-Month Environmental Analysis phase would consist of a water quality analysis
(estimated $15,000),a native species analysis (estimated $15,000)and MRCA Park
Ranger enforcement (10 hours per week)and reporting ($15,600)for an approximate
total of $45,600.The 12-Month Dog Beach Pilot Program would include MRCA Park
Ranger enforcement and reporting ($31,200),as well improvements to the beach and
maintenance,including signage,trash cans,Mutt Mitt stations and garbage and trash
removal services (estimated $8,375).The total cost of both phases would be $85,175.
Not included in the estimate is the cost to install any area demarcations if the off-leash
option is selected.On-going enforcement and maintenance costs are included in
Attachment "C"and range from approximately $38,600 to $54,000,depending on which
option is selected.If the City prohibits dogs on RPV Beach,Park Ranger enforcement
costs are estimated at $47,000 annually for the first two years,after which enforcement
needs will be reevaluated and may diminish.Regardless of which option is chosen,an
amendment to the MRCA contract and a corresponding General fund budget
adjustment will be required,as this issue was not included in the adopted FY11-12
Budget.
Attachments:
Attachment "A":Rancho Palos Verdes Beach Map
Attachment liB":Dog Beach Research and Matrix
Attachment "C":Maintenance,Enforcement,and Environmental Analysis Cost Analysis
Attachment "0":Dog Beach Pilot Program
Attachment liE":Community Feedback and Matrix
Attachment "F":Public Correspondence
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Attachment "A"
Rancho Palos Verdes Beach Map
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Attachment "B"
Dog Beach Research and Matrix
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Attachment "B"
Dog Beach Research
Rancho Palos Verdes Beach
February 21,2012
Overview
Dog beaches are found on federal,state,county,and city-owned land,and rules
and regulations are determined by the entity with jurisdiction over the beach.Of
the approximately 60 dog beaches in California,43 allow dogs on the beach on-
leash,and 17 allow dogs on the beach off-leash.There are two dog beaches in
Los Angeles County;Leo Carrillo State Beach in Malibu allows dogs on the
beach on-leash,and Rosie's Dog Beach in Long Beach allows dogs on the
beach off-leash.
The primary reason cited for so few dog beaches in Los Angeles County is that
most Los Angeles County beaches serve densely populated areas with a myriad
of potential conflicting user groups,including swimmers,surfers,sun bathers,
exercise/sport groups,and bicyclists.Also,beaches within the county are largely
owned by the state,and the state takes a strong position against off-leash dog
beaches,holding that off-leash dog recreation should be handled at the local or
municipal level.
Staff conducted research on California dog beaches,and some important
elements explored include:
•Public Health and Environmental Protection
•Permitting Process
•Safety and Liability
•Access and Parking
Public Health and Environmental Protection
Agencies'opinions and findings on public health and the environmental impact of
dog beaches are divided.While some studies suggest that dog beaches are not
proven to have a negative impact on ocean water and beach quality,such as the
California Resource Bureau's 2006 dog beach study and the Long Beach off-
leash dog beach pilot program environmental analysis,some organizations hold
that there is a definite contaminating affect to beaches and water quality.The
local environmental organization,Heal the Bay,does not support dog beaches
that allow dogs in the water or any part of the beach that is subject to the tide for
environmental and public health reasons,and this position is also supported by
the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
The City of Rancho Palos Verdes'water quality obligations are typically
addressed through the Regional Water Quality Control Board.That agency has
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mandated water quality commitments relating to discharge from storm drains for
municipalities,including the City.However,there are no storm drains in the
vicinity of the proposed dog beach,so the provisions of the City's storm water
discharge permit,including total maximum daily load (TMDL)limitations for
bacteria,do not directly apply.Rather,the potential impacts to sand and water
quality will need to be assessed through the environmental review process
required for coastal development.
Should the City choose to change the City's Municipal Code to allow dogs on
Rancho Palos Verdes Beach,whether on-leash or off-leash,staff recommends
hiring consultants to analyze the potential environmental impacts of a dog beach
to water quality and any sensitive native species on and surrounding the beach,
as well as to establish mitigation measures as necessary.This analysis would
be completed as part of the preparation of an environmental document in
accortlance with the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
Permitting Process
To implement an on-leash dog beach at RPV Beach,the City Council would
need to approve an Ordinance amending Section 6.04.050 (Animals prohibited
on beaches)of the Municipal Code.To implement an off-leash dog beach,the
City Council would also need to approve an Ordinance amending Section
12.16.050 (Streets,Parks and Recreation Facilities,Dogs and Pets)of the
Municipal Code.By focusing the Municipal Code changes to only RPV Beach,
dogs would still be prohibited on other City-owned beaches and would still be
required to be leashed in all other public places.
In conjunction with the Ordinance,according to the Municipal Code,the City
would also be required to approve a Coastal Permit and a Conditional Use
Permit to allow the dog beach use to occur and any necessary fencing/boundary
demarcation or signage to be installed.In order to comply with CEQA,based
upon reports reviewed for other dog beaches in the state,staff believes that a
Mitigated Negative Declaration would need to be prepared prior to the issuance
of a Coastal Permit and Conditional Use Permit.
Because RPV Beach is located in the Appealable Area of the City's Coastal
Zone,the Coastal Permit would be appealable to the California Coastal
Commission.Thus,should a party wish to appeal it for reasons pertaining to
environmental impact or beach access restrictions,they may do so with no
appeal fee.
Safety and Liability
When dogs are allowed on beaches where other forms of recreation take place,it
is likely that different users will come into contact with one another.In California,
dog owners are strictly liable for dog bites that occur in public places or when the
person is lawfully in a private place.Should the City proceed with a dog beach,
whether dogs are allowed on-leash or off-leash,owners would be liable for
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injuries caused by their dogs.
Most dog beaches enforce rules to lessen the chance of dangerous interactions,
such as requiring children to be accompanied by adults,limiting the number of
dogs per beach visitor,and prominently posting rules.Dog beach rules and
regulations should be prominently posted,and the City and its agents (the MRCA
Rangers and Sheriff's Department)would be responsible for enforcement of the
rules.To make clear the rules of the dog beach,and the specific location where
dogs are allowed on the beach,signage would be required demarcating the
boundaries of any leash free areas along with requirements that owners must be
able to control their dogs and keep their dogs in that area and not go into the
other part of the public beach where dogs must be on leash,and they must keep
the dogs from going onto the private beach at the Portuguese Bend Club.
Of the off-leash dog beaches studied in 2006 by the California Research Bureau
(CRB),few reported dog bites,and a study of 17 off-leash California dog parks
conducted by the University of California Davis School of Veterinary Medicine
concludes that injuries to people from dog bites and instances of dog bites to
other dogs in off-leash areas are rare,but do occur.One dog bite on RPV Beach
has been reported to City staff after-the-fact that took place in June 2010,but
apparently was not reported to law enforcement at the time.The Los Angeles
County Animal Control Department has shared that they receive very few calls
reporting aggressive animals,and the most recent call was approximately two
years ago,and no recent incidents have been reported to the Lomita Sheriff
Station.Staff has reached out to the Los Angeles County Lifeguard for feedback
on safety and is awaiting their response.
It should be noted that there is no public telephone on Rancho Palos Verdes
Beach,and that emergency response time may be delayed,because vehicle
access is available only through the adjacent privately-owned Portuguese Bend
Club community and would require traversing over an approximate ~mile of
sandy and rocky beach.
Access and Parking
Parking for public access to Rancho Palos Verdes Beach,Founders Park,and
the public walking trails is available at four locations on the Trump National Golf
Course site:1)the 45-space dedicated (day-use)public parking lot located to the
east side of the clubhouse;2)the 150 space parking lot on the west side of the
clubhouse,however this lot is first available to users of the clubhouse and golf
course;3)the 50-space public parking lot at the terminus of La Rotonda Drive,
which is approximately 3/4 mile walk from the beach and Founders Park;and 4)
approximately 95 on-street parking spaces along Ocean Trails Drive.However,
as the beach becomes more widely known,usage will increase.This is already
taking place and has been confirmed by the observations of the County
Lifeguards,MRCA Rangers,Trump National staff,and City staff.There is no
opportunity to increase parking at the site.Should the City implement a dog
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beach pilot program at RPV Beach,staff will evaluate usage numbers at the
beach and the impact on public parking during the trial period.
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Excerpt from California Research Bureau's 2006 Dogs on the Beach Study
CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
(Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Contra Costa Point Isabel East Bay Regional Park Approximately 21 acres of mixed-Dogs must be under voice
Regional Shoreline District (EBRPD)use open space on south side of control and within sight of
canal.Facilities include owner.No more than three dogs
Area south of canal telephone,restrooms,drinking per person without permit.
fountain,parking lot,dog wash,Owners must carry leash,clean
Point Isabel Dog and cafe.up feces,stop dog from digging,
Owners and Friends Hours:5 a.m.to 10 p.m.fIll in holes,and prevent dog
(Volunteer org.)from going into marsh and
Fees:None disturbing feeding birds.
Del Norte Beachfront Park Crescent City Undeveloped beach across from Dogs must be on a leash no more
park.Facilities include trash cans than six feet long;owners must
and dog bags.pick up after their dogs.
No specified hours or fees.
Del Norte Crescent Beach Crescent City Undeveloped beach south of Dogs must be on a leash no more
Crescent City.than six feet long;owners must
No specified hours or fees.pick up after their dogs.
Del Norte Gold Bluffs Beach Redwood National and Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
State Parks restrooms,and campsites.more than six feet long;owners
Jointly managed by Hours:Sunrise to sunset must pick up after their dogs.
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CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
[Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Humboldt Clam Beach County Humboldt County Undeveloped beach.Facilities Dogs must be on leash.
Park include pit toilets.
No specified hours or feos.
Humboldt Mad River Beach Humboldt County Facilities include toilets,water Dogs must be on leash.
County Park fountain,and campgrounds.
No specified hours or fees.
Humboldt Samoa Dunes Bureau of Land 300-acre sand dune park.Dogs may be on leash or off-
Recreation Area Management Hours:One hour before sunrise leash under voice control.
to one hour after sunset Owners must have leash.
Fees:None
Humboldt South Spit Cooperative No running water,chemical Dogs may be off-leash under
Management Area toilets.voice control from September 15
State of California Hours:One hour before sunrise to February 28.Must be on-
(Dept.of Fish and to one hour after sunset leash during snowy plover
Game)/Humboldt nesting season March 1 to
CountylBureau of Land Fees:None September 15.
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CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
[Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold]
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATlONSSTRUCTURE
Los Angeles Dog Zone,Long City of Long Beach A 2.9 acres,unfenced,section of One dog per person.Dogs must
Beach Parks,R~creation &waterfront beach wear collar/tags,have current
Marine Department Hours:6 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily;vaccinations,be more than four
Recreation Dog Park same as normal beach hours months old,and respond to voice
Association and Haute commands.Aggressive dogs and
Dogs (Volunteer Fees:None female dogs in heat are not
organizations)permitted.
Los Angeles Leo Carillo State California State Parks One and onelhalfmiles of beach Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach with running water,picnic tables.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Marin Agate Beach Beach located within Two miles of shoreline during low Dogs must be on a leash no longer
Duxbury Reef State tide.Facilities include portable than six feet.
Marine Sanctuary toilets.
Managed by Marin Hours:Sunrise to sunset
County Fees:None
Marin Kehoe Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed north of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted south of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover).
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CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
[Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Marin Limantour Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed south of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted north of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover,harbor seals).
Marin Muir Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Hours:Sunrise to sunset control.
Fees:None
Marin Point Reyes/Great Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs must be on leash no longer
Beach Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet;and leaving pets
unattended and tied to tree or
Fees:None object is prohibited.Dogs are not
allowed from the North Beach
parking lot to the south,as this
area is protected habitat for the
snowy plover.
Marin Rodeo Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include running water,Dogs are permitted off leash
Recreation Area restrooms and drinking fountain.under voice control from the
Hours:Sunrise to sunset shoreline to the crest of the
dunes.
Fees:None
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Excerpt from California Research Bureau's 2006 Dogs on the Beach Study
CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
(Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Contra Costa Point Isabel East Bay Regional Park Approximately 21 acres of mixed-Dogs must be under voice
Regional Shoreline District (EBRPD)use open space on south side of control and within sight of
canal.Facilities include owner.No more than three dogs
Area south of canal telephone,restrooms,drinking per person without permit.
fountain,parking lot,dog wash,Owners must carry leash,clean
Point Isabel Dog and cafe.up feces,stop dog from digging,
Owners and Friends Hours:5 a.m.to 10 p.m.fIll in holes,and prevent dog
(Volunteer org.)from going into marsh and
Fees:None disturbing feeding birds.
Del Norte Beachfront Park Crescent City Undeveloped beach across from Dogs must be on a leash no more
park.Facilities include trash cans than six feet long;owners must
and dog bags.pick up after their dogs.
No specified hours or fees.
Del Norte Crescent Beach Crescent City Undeveloped beach south of Dogs must be on a leash no more
Crescent City.than six feet long;owners must
No specified hours or fees.pick up after their dogs.
Del Norte Gold Bluffs Beach Redwood National and Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
State Parks restrooms,and campsites.more than six feet long;owners
Jointly managed by Hours:Sunrise to sunset must pick up after their dogs.
California State Parks and Fees:$6/day usetheNationalParkService
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Excerpt from California Research Bureau's 2006 Dogs on the Beach Study
CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
(Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Contra Costa Point Isabel East Bay Regional Park Approximately 21 acres of mixed-Dogs must be under voice
Regional Shoreline District (EBRPD)use open space on south side of control and within sight of
canal.Facilities include owner.No more than three dogs
Area south of canal telephone,restrooms,drinking per person without permit.
fountain,parking lot,dog wash,Owners must carry leash,clean
Point Isabel Dog and cafe.up feces,stop dog from digging,
Owners and Friends Hours:5 a.m.to 10 p.m.fIll in holes,and prevent dog
(Volunteer org.)from going into marsh and
Fees:None disturbing feeding birds.
Del Norte Beachfront Park Crescent City Undeveloped beach across from Dogs must be on a leash no more
park.Facilities include trash cans than six feet long;owners must
and dog bags.pick up after their dogs.
No specified hours or fees.
Del Norte Crescent Beach Crescent City Undeveloped beach south of Dogs must be on a leash no more
Crescent City.than six feet long;owners must
No specified hours or fees.pick up after their dogs.
Del Norte Gold Bluffs Beach Redwood National and Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
State Parks restrooms,and campsites.more than six feet long;owners
Jointly managed by Hours:Sunrise to sunset must pick up after their dogs.
California State Parks and Fees:$6/day usetheNationalParkService
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CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Humboldt Clam Beach County Humboldt County Undeveloped beach.Facilities Dogs must be on leash.
Park include pit toilets.
No specified hours or feos.
Humboldt Mad River Beach Humboldt County Facilities include toilets,water Dogs must be on leash.
County Park fountain,and campgrounds.
No specified hours or fees.
Humboldt Samoa Dunes Bureau of Land 300-acre sand dune park.Dogs may be on leash or off-
Recreation Area Management Hours:One hour before sunrise leash under voice control.
to one hour after sunset Owners must have leash.
Fees:None
Humboldt South Spit Cooperative No running water,chemical Dogs may be off-leash under
Management Area toilets.voice control from September 15
State of California Hours:One hour before sunrise to February 28.Must be on-
(Dept.of Fish and to one hour after sunset leash during snowy plover
Game)/Humboldt nesting season March 1 to
CountylBureau of Land Fees:None September 15.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Humboldt Clam Beach County Humboldt County Undeveloped beach.Facilities Dogs must be on leash.
Park include pit toilets.
No specified hours or feos.
Humboldt Mad River Beach Humboldt County Facilities include toilets,water Dogs must be on leash.
County Park fountain,and campgrounds.
No specified hours or fees.
Humboldt Samoa Dunes Bureau of Land 300-acre sand dune park.Dogs may be on leash or off-
Recreation Area Management Hours:One hour before sunrise leash under voice control.
to one hour after sunset Owners must have leash.
Fees:None
Humboldt South Spit Cooperative No running water,chemical Dogs may be off-leash under
Management Area toilets.voice control from September 15
State of California Hours:One hour before sunrise to February 28.Must be on-
(Dept.of Fish and to one hour after sunset leash during snowy plover
Game)/Humboldt nesting season March 1 to
CountylBureau of Land Fees:None September 15.
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[Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold]
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATlONSSTRUCTURE
Los Angeles Dog Zone,Long City of Long Beach A 2.9 acres,unfenced,section of One dog per person.Dogs must
Beach Parks,R~creation &waterfront beach wear collar/tags,have current
Marine Department Hours:6 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily;vaccinations,be more than four
Recreation Dog Park same as normal beach hours months old,and respond to voice
Association and Haute commands.Aggressive dogs and
Dogs (Volunteer Fees:None female dogs in heat are not
organizations)permitted.
Los Angeles Leo Carillo State California State Parks One and onelhalfmiles of beach Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach with running water,picnic tables.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Marin Agate Beach Beach located within Two miles of shoreline during low Dogs must be on a leash no longer
Duxbury Reef State tide.Facilities include portable than six feet.
Marine Sanctuary toilets.
Managed by Marin Hours:Sunrise to sunset
County Fees:None
Marin Kehoe Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed north of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted south of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover).
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Humboldt Clam Beach County Humboldt County Undeveloped beach.Facilities Dogs must be on leash.
Park include pit toilets.
No specified hours or feos.
Humboldt Mad River Beach Humboldt County Facilities include toilets,water Dogs must be on leash.
County Park fountain,and campgrounds.
No specified hours or fees.
Humboldt Samoa Dunes Bureau of Land 300-acre sand dune park.Dogs may be on leash or off-
Recreation Area Management Hours:One hour before sunrise leash under voice control.
to one hour after sunset Owners must have leash.
Fees:None
Humboldt South Spit Cooperative No running water,chemical Dogs may be off-leash under
Management Area toilets.voice control from September 15
State of California Hours:One hour before sunrise to February 28.Must be on-
(Dept.of Fish and to one hour after sunset leash during snowy plover
Game)/Humboldt nesting season March 1 to
CountylBureau of Land Fees:None September 15.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATlONSSTRUCTURE
Los Angeles Dog Zone,Long City of Long Beach A 2.9 acres,unfenced,section of One dog per person.Dogs must
Beach Parks,R~creation &waterfront beach wear collar/tags,have current
Marine Department Hours:6 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily;vaccinations,be more than four
Recreation Dog Park same as normal beach hours months old,and respond to voice
Association and Haute commands.Aggressive dogs and
Dogs (Volunteer Fees:None female dogs in heat are not
organizations)permitted.
Los Angeles Leo Carillo State California State Parks One and onelhalfmiles of beach Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach with running water,picnic tables.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Marin Agate Beach Beach located within Two miles of shoreline during low Dogs must be on a leash no longer
Duxbury Reef State tide.Facilities include portable than six feet.
Marine Sanctuary toilets.
Managed by Marin Hours:Sunrise to sunset
County Fees:None
Marin Kehoe Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed north of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted south of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover).
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Marin Limantour Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed south of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted north of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover,harbor seals).
Marin Muir Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Hours:Sunrise to sunset control.
Fees:None
Marin Point Reyes/Great Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs must be on leash no longer
Beach Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet;and leaving pets
unattended and tied to tree or
Fees:None object is prohibited.Dogs are not
allowed from the North Beach
parking lot to the south,as this
area is protected habitat for the
snowy plover.
Marin Rodeo Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include running water,Dogs are permitted off leash
Recreation Area restrooms and drinking fountain.under voice control from the
Hours:Sunrise to sunset shoreline to the crest of the
dunes.
Fees:None
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CALIFORNIA BEACHES THAT ALLOW DOGS
(Beaches that permit dogs off-leash are indicated in bold].
COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Contra Costa Point Isabel East Bay Regional Park Approximately 21 acres of mixed-Dogs must be under voice
Regional Shoreline District (EBRPD)use open space on south side of control and within sight of
canal.Facilities include owner.No more than three dogs
Area south of canal telephone,restrooms,drinking per person without permit.
fountain,parking lot,dog wash,Owners must carry leash,clean
Point Isabel Dog and cafe.up feces,stop dog from digging,
Owners and Friends Hours:5 a.m.to 10 p.m.fIll in holes,and prevent dog
(Volunteer org.)from going into marsh and
Fees:None disturbing feeding birds.
Del Norte Beachfront Park Crescent City Undeveloped beach across from Dogs must be on a leash no more
park.Facilities include trash cans than six feet long;owners must
and dog bags.pick up after their dogs.
No specified hours or fees.
Del Norte Crescent Beach Crescent City Undeveloped beach south of Dogs must be on a leash no more
Crescent City.than six feet long;owners must
No specified hours or fees.pick up after their dogs.
Del Norte Gold Bluffs Beach Redwood National and Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
State Parks restrooms,and campsites.more than six feet long;owners
Jointly managed by Hours:Sunrise to sunset must pick up after their dogs.
California State Parks and Fees:$6/day usetheNationalParkService
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Humboldt Clam Beach County Humboldt County Undeveloped beach.Facilities Dogs must be on leash.
Park include pit toilets.
No specified hours or feos.
Humboldt Mad River Beach Humboldt County Facilities include toilets,water Dogs must be on leash.
County Park fountain,and campgrounds.
No specified hours or fees.
Humboldt Samoa Dunes Bureau of Land 300-acre sand dune park.Dogs may be on leash or off-
Recreation Area Management Hours:One hour before sunrise leash under voice control.
to one hour after sunset Owners must have leash.
Fees:None
Humboldt South Spit Cooperative No running water,chemical Dogs may be off-leash under
Management Area toilets.voice control from September 15
State of California Hours:One hour before sunrise to February 28.Must be on-
(Dept.of Fish and to one hour after sunset leash during snowy plover
Game)/Humboldt nesting season March 1 to
CountylBureau of Land Fees:None September 15.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATlONSSTRUCTURE
Los Angeles Dog Zone,Long City of Long Beach A 2.9 acres,unfenced,section of One dog per person.Dogs must
Beach Parks,R~creation &waterfront beach wear collar/tags,have current
Marine Department Hours:6 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily;vaccinations,be more than four
Recreation Dog Park same as normal beach hours months old,and respond to voice
Association and Haute commands.Aggressive dogs and
Dogs (Volunteer Fees:None female dogs in heat are not
organizations)permitted.
Los Angeles Leo Carillo State California State Parks One and onelhalfmiles of beach Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach with running water,picnic tables.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Marin Agate Beach Beach located within Two miles of shoreline during low Dogs must be on a leash no longer
Duxbury Reef State tide.Facilities include portable than six feet.
Marine Sanctuary toilets.
Managed by Marin Hours:Sunrise to sunset
County Fees:None
Marin Kehoe Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed north of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted south of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover).
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Marin Limantour Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed south of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted north of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover,harbor seals).
Marin Muir Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Hours:Sunrise to sunset control.
Fees:None
Marin Point Reyes/Great Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs must be on leash no longer
Beach Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet;and leaving pets
unattended and tied to tree or
Fees:None object is prohibited.Dogs are not
allowed from the North Beach
parking lot to the south,as this
area is protected habitat for the
snowy plover.
Marin Rodeo Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include running water,Dogs are permitted off leash
Recreation Area restrooms and drinking fountain.under voice control from the
Hours:Sunrise to sunset shoreline to the crest of the
dunes.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Marin Limantour Beach Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are allowed south of trail but
Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset must be on leash no longer than six
feet;leaving pets unattended and
Fees:None tied to tree or object is prohibited.
Dogs not permitted north of
trailhead (protected habitat for the
snowy plover,harbor seals).
Marin Muir Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Hours:Sunrise to sunset control.
Fees:None
Marin Point Reyes/Great Point Reyes National Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs must be on leash no longer
Beach Seashore Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet;and leaving pets
unattended and tied to tree or
Fees:None object is prohibited.Dogs are not
allowed from the North Beach
parking lot to the south,as this
area is protected habitat for the
snowy plover.
Marin Rodeo Beach Golden Gate National Facilities include running water,Dogs are permitted off leash
Recreation Area restrooms and drinking fountain.under voice control from the
Hours:Sunrise to sunset shoreline to the crest of the
dunes.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Marin Upton Beach Marin County Facilities include trash cans.Dogs must be on leash no longer
Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet.
Fees:None
Mendocino Mendocino California State Parks Facilities include chemical toilets.Dogs must be leashed.Headlands State
Beach Hours:Sunrise to sunset
(Big River Beach)Fees:None
Mendocino MacKerricher State California State Parks Campsites,tables,restrooms.Dogs must be on tended leash no
Park Hours:6 a.m.to 10 p.m.longer than six feet.Owners
cannot leave pets unattended and
Fees:None must clean up after them.
Mendocino Van Damme State California State Parks Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach restrooms.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:6 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Mendocino Westport-Union California State Parks Two miles of beach with tables and Dogs must be on tended leash no
Landing State Beach restrooms.longer than six-feet.Owners
Hours:6 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Monterey Asilomar State Beach California State Parks Facilities including running water Dogs must be on tended leash no
and restrooms.more than six feet long and have
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after current license and rabies shots;
sunset owners must pick up after their
dogs.Dogs may be off-leash,
Fees:None under voice control,on south
portion of beach,past stream.
Monterey Carmel City Beach City of Carmel One mile of beach.Dogs are allowed off-leash under
Carmel Residents Hours:Open 24 hours voice control.
Association Fees:None(Volunteer org.)
Monterey Carmel River State California State Parks Approximately one mile of beach Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach with running water and restrooms.longer than six feet and have
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after current license and rabies shots.
sunset Owners cannot leave pets
unattended and must clean up after
Fees:None them.
Monterey Garrapata State California State Parks Two miles of beachfront with Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach running water and restrooms.longer than six feet and have
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after current license and rabies shots.
sunset Owners cannot leave pets
unattended and must clean up after
Fees:None them.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Monterey Monterey State California State Parks One-half mile of sandy beach with Dogs allowed on beach in
Beach chemical toilets.designated area only;must be on
Hours:6 a.m.to half-hour after tended leash no more than six feet
sunset long;owners must pick up after
their dogs.
Fees:None
Monterey Pfeiffer Beach Los Padres National Located in Big Sur;facilities Dogs must be on tended leash no
Forest include restrooms.more than six feet long;must have
Hours:8 a.m.-sunset current license and rabies shots;
owners must pick up after their
Fees:$5/car dogs.
Orange Huntington Dog City of Huntington One-mile of fenced beach.Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach Beach Hours:5 a.m.to 10 p.m.daily more than six feet long (except
(parking lot closes at 8 p.m.)on wet sand and water -see p.
Preservation Society of 40).Owners must pick up after
Huntington Dog Beach Fees:None their dogs.
(Non-profit org.)
Orange Laguna Beach City of Laguna Facilities include running water,Dogs are permitted on-leash before
restrooms,and showers.8 a.m.and after 6 p.m.from June 1
Hours:24 hours to Sept.16,and anytime during the
rest of the year.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
San Diego Coronado Beach City of Coronado Facilities include running water Dogs permitted off-leash on the
for dogs.two-block area at the north end
Hours:Daylight ofthe beach.
Fees:None
San Diego Del Mar Dog Beach James Scripp Bluffs North of the San Dieguito River From Sept.15 to June 15,dogs
(also known as Reserve mouth.Facilities include chemical are permitted off·leash under
North Beach)toilets,restrooms,showers,and voice command from Via de la
City of San Diego water.Valle south to 27th Street.From
Hours:Sunrise to sunset June 15 to Sept.15,dogs must be
on a leash 8 feet or less in length.
Fees:None
San Diego Dog Beach on City of San Diego Dog Beach is on the west end of Dogs are permitted off·leash.
Ocean Beach the San Diego River Floodway.Owners are asked to pick up
Hours:Open 24 hours after their dogs.Also,puppies
are not allowel}until they have
Fees:None had all of their required
vaccinations;dogs must have up
to date vaccinations and current
license.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
San Diego Fiesta Island City of San Diego Located in Mission Bay;park has Dogs are allowed off-leash
a 5.2 mile asphalt path around except for the fenced areas.
the island and chemical toilets.Owners must pick up after their
Hours:6 a.m.to 10 p.m.dogs.Puppies are not allowed
until they have had all required
Fees:None vaccinations;dogs must have
current vaccinations and license.
San Francisco Baker Beach Golden Gate National South of the Golden Gate Bridge.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Facilities include restrooms and control on Baker Beach north of
running water.Lobos Creek.
Hours:Sunrise to sunset
Fees:None
San Francisco Chrissy Field Beach Golden Gate National On San Francisco Bay.Dogs are permitted under voice
Recreation Area Hours:Sunrise to sunset control.
Fees:None
San Francisco Fort Golden Gate National Beach and park with water Dogs are permitted under voice
Funston/Burton Recreation Area faucet/trough.control at Fort Funston and
Beach Hours:Sunrise to sunset Phillip Burton Beach.Dogs must
be on-leash in the Bank Swallow
Fees:None habitat area.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
San Francisco Ocean Beach Golden Gate National Four miles of beach with Dogs are allowed on Ocean
Recreation Area chemical toilets.Beach under voice control from
Hours:Sunrise to sunset Stairwell 1 to Stairwell 21.Dogs
must be on leash south of
Fees:None Stairwell 21 to Sloat Boulevard
to protect the snowy plover.
San Luis Obispo A vila Beach and Old City of A vila Beach Developed and undeveloped Dogs are not allowed between 10
Port Beach beaches.Facilities include a.m.and 5 p.m.and must be
restrooms,showers,and water.leashed.
No specified hours or fees.
San Luis Obispo Cayucos State Beach California State Parks Picnic tables,restrooms,outdoor Dogs must be on tended leash no
shower,drinking fountain.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:6 a.m.to 11 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
San Luis Obispo Morro Strand State California State Parks Facilities include picnic area,no Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach running water more than six feet long;owners
Hours:Sunrise to 10 p.m.must pick up after their dogs.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
San Luis Obispo Oceano Dunes State California State Parks 3,600 acre off-road area with Dogs must be on tended leash no
Vehicular Recreation 5 1/2 miles beach.Facilities include longer than six feet.Owners
Area running water,restrooms,and cannot leave pets unattended and
showers.must clean up after them.
Hours:6 a.m.to 11 p.m.
Fees:$5/day use (drive in),free
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San Luis Obispo Pismo State Beach California State Parks Facilities include no running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
chemical toilets.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 11 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:$5/day use
San Luis Obispo San Simeon State California State Parks Facilities include no running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach chemical toilets.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 11 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:None
Santa Barbara Douglas Family City of Santa Barbara A 70-acre open space area with Owners must clean up after their
Preserve wide undeveloped beach below dogs and keelJ dog leashed on
mesa.non-City access trails and
Hours:24 hours beaches.
Fees:None
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Santa Barbara Goleta Beach County Santa Barbara County Beach and park about one-half mile Dogs must be leashed.
Park long.Facilities include bathrooms,
water,and food.
Hours:8 a.m.to sunset
Fees:None
Santa Barbara Rincon Park and Santa Barbara County One-half mile long;facilities Dogs must be leashed.
Beach include picnic tables and restrooms.
Hours:8 a.m.to sunset
Fees:None
SantaCruz Davenport Landing Santa Cruz County Facilities include running water.Dogs must be leashed.
Beach No specified hours or fees.
Santa Cruz Lighthouse Field Owned by California Facilities include restrooms,Dogs can be unleashed from
State Beach State Parks lifeguards.sunrise to 10 a.m.and from
&Managed by City of Hours:Sunrise to sunset 4 p.m.to sunset.Dogs are not
Santa Cruz allowed from 10 a.m.to 4 p.m.
Its Beach Fees:None
Friends of Lighthouse
Field (Volunteer org)
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
Santa Cruz Mitchell's Cove City of Santa Cruz This is a "summer beach;"it Dogs can be unleashed from
Beach mostly disappears in the winter.sunrise to 10 a.m.and from
Facilities include restrooms,4 p.m.to sunset.Dogs are not
lifeguards.allowed from 10 a.m.to 4 p.m.
Hours:Sunrise to sunset
Fees:None
SantaCruz Manresa State Beach California State Parks Hwy.1;South of Aptos.Facilities Dogs must be on tended leash no
include running water and longer than six feet.Owners
restrooms.cannot leave pets unattended and
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after must clean up after them.
sunset
Fees:$6/parking
SantaCruz Natural Bridges State California State Parks Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
Park restrooms.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after cannot leave pets unattended and
sunset must clean up after them.
Fees:$6/parking
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
SantaCruz New Brighton State California State Parks 93 acres in Capitola;facilities Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach include running water and longer than six feet.Owners
restrooms cannot leave pets unattended and
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after must clean up after them.
sunset
Fees:$6/parking
SantaCruz Palm State Beach California State Parks Hwy.1 in Watsonville;facilities Dogs must be on tended leash no
include picnic tables,showers,longer than six feet.Owners
restrooms,and BBQ.cannot leave pets unattended and
Hours:8 a.m.to half-hour after must clean up after them.
sunset
Fees:$6/parking
SantaCruz Rio Del Mar State California State Parks Facilities include running water and Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach restrooms.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.summer/to cannot leave pets unattended and
sunset in winter must clean up after them.
Fees:$6/parking
SantaCruz Seabright State Beach California State Parks Facilities include running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
restrooms,and fIre rings.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
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COUNTY BEACH ADMINISTRATIVE DESCRIPTION RULESIREGULATIONSSTRUCTURE
SantaCruz Seacliff State Beach California State Parks Picnic area,running water,Dogs must be on tended leash no
restrooms,and showers.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:8 a.m.to 10 p.m.summer/to cannot leave pets unattended and
sunset in winter must clean up after them.
Fees:$6/parking
SantaCruz Twin Lakes State California State Parks One-mile beach has outdoor Dogs must be on tended leash no
Beach showers,restrooms.longer than six feet.Owners
Hours:6 a.m.to 10 p.m.cannot leave pets unattended and
must clean up after them.
Fees:$6/parking
Sonoma Doran Regional Park Sonoma County Two-mile beach with campsites,Dogs must be on leash no more
Campgrounds tables,restrooms.than six feet long and must have
Hours:Sunrise to sunset rabies certification.Owners must
clean up after their dogs.
Fees:$5/day use
Sonoma Gualala Point Sonoma County 195-acre park with beaches,trails,Dogs must be on leash no more
Regional Park Beach campsites,tables,and restrooms.than six feet long and must have
Hours:Sunrise to sunset rabies certification.Owners must
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Sonoma Sea Ranch Coastal Sonoma County Six trail access points to beaches.Dogs must be on leash no more
Access Trails Hours:Sunrise to sunset than six feet long and must have
rabies certification.Owners must
Fees:$4/day use clean up after their dogs.
Sonoma Sonoma Coast State California State Parks Three long sandy beaches separated Leashed dogs are allowed at Shell
Beach by rocky bluffs and headlands;Beach,Portuguese Beach and
running water and restrooms.Schoolhouse Beach.Owners must
Hours:Sunrise to sunset pick up after their dogs.
Fees:$6/parking
Sonoma Stillwater Cove Sonoma County Small beach in park with Dogs must be on leash no more
Regional Park campground,tables,restrooms.than six feet long and must have
Hours:Sunrise to sunset rabies certification.Owners must
clean up after their dogs.
Fees:$4/day use
Ventura Hollywood Beach Ventura County One mile-stretch with restrooms Dogs are allowed on beach before
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Ventura Oxnard Shores Beach City of Oxnard Developed beach with restrooms,Dogs must be on-leash;owners
water.must clean up after their dog.
Hours:7 a.m.to dusk
Fees:None
Ventura Silver Strand Beach Ventura County One-mile stretch with restrooms Dogs are allowed on beach before
and running water.9 a.m.and after 5 p.m.on-leash
Hours:24 hours only;Owners must clean up after
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Attachment "C"
Maintenance,Enforcement,and Environmental Analysis Cost Analysis
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Attachment "C"
Dog Beach Maintenance,Enforcement,and
Environmental Analysis Levels and Costs
February 21,2012
Initial startup hard costs for a dog beach tend to be minimal,and include
purchasing garbage cans,signage,and mutt mitt stations.The primary cost
impact of a dog beach is that it tends to attracts more visitors to the beach,
resulting in the need for increased maintenance and enforcement.While Trump
National Golf Course currently maintains Rancho Palos Verdes Beach pursuant
to the Public Use Amenities Plan in place,the City would be required to maintain
the beach if it includes dog use because of the resulting increased use and
maintenance costs not originally planned for the beach in the approved Public
Use Amenities Plan.
Levels of enforcement and maintenance are a policy decision at the discretion of
the City Council;however,after conducting dog beach research and consultation
with MRCA Rangers and Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy,staff
makes the following recommendations.These recommendations include
increasing the City's contract with MRCA for enforcement so that hours
dedicated to RPV Beach do not reduce patrol hours allocated for the Palos
Verdes Nature Preserve.
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Unit Cost
Enforcement (MRCA Rangers)*10 hrs/wk $15,600
Environmental Testing $30,000
Total $45600
*Rangers WIll prOVide Increased enforcement at Founders Park and the public coastal trails adjacent to the
beach to minimize impacts on public facility visitors and Trump National Golf Course.Rangers will also
monitor and provide reports on activity on RPV beach.
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Unit Cost
Enforcement (MRCA Rangers)10 hrs/wk $31,200
Garbage and Litter Removal 4 hrs/wk $7,200
Trash Cans 2 $150
Signage 3 $525
Mutt Mitt Station 2 $300
Mutt Mitts Refills n/a $200
Total $39575
Environmental Analysis,Enforcement,and
Maintenance Levels and Costs
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ONGOING ENFORCEMENT AND MAINTENANCE COSTS
Enforcement and maintenance needs will be evaluated and adjusted with
continued use of the beach.Below are estimates of levels recommended for off-
leash dog use of the beach,and if dogs are prohibited on the bea~h.It is
anticipated that enforcement needs and associated costs will diminish after the
first few years,once a strong public education campaign and enforcement are
introduced at the beach.
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Unit Cost
Enforcement (MRCA Ranaers)10 hrs/wk $31,200
Garbaae and Litter Removal*4 hrs/wk $7,200
Mutt Mitts Refills n/a $200
Total $38600
*The City Will also provide graffiti and slgnage replacement as needed.
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Enforcement (MRCA Rangers)15 hrs/wk $46,800
Garbage and Litter Removal*4 hrs/wk $7,200
Mutt Mitts Refills n/a $200
Total $54200
*The City WIll also provide graffiti and signage replacement as needed.
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Enforcement (MRCA Rangers)15 hrs/wk $46,800
Maintenance*n/a n/a
Total $46800
*Malntenance would be provided by Trump National Golf Course per the project's Public Use Amenities Plan
Environmental Analysis,Enforcement,and
Maintenance Levels and Costs
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Attachment "0"
Dog Beach Pilot Program
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Attachment "0"
Rancho Palos Verdes Dog Beach Pilot Program
February 21,2012
Project Description
A 12-month pilot dog beach program will take place at Rancho Palos Verdes
(RPV)Beach following City Council approval and ordinance adoption.The goal
of this pilot program is to evaluate dog use on RPV Beach to determine its long-
term viability.The pilot program can be suspended or terminated prior to its
scheduled conclusion if there is a preponderance of violations or negative
impacts.
Project Impetus
When the City of Rancho Palos Verdes acquired the beach in May 2011,it had
been used for many years as an unofficial off-leash dog beach while under
private ownership.In August 2011,after receiving a status update on the newly
acquired beach,City Council directed staff to conduct research on dog beaches
and solicit community input on future uses at the beach.Outreach has shown
that there is a strong desire for a location in Rancho Palos Verdes for off-leash
dog recreation,and furthermore, off-leash dog recreation on RPV Beach.
Project Design Guidelines:
•Implement a dog beach at RPV Beach
•Minimize the impact on other beach users
•Minimize the impact on adjacent property owners
•Minimize,or mitigate,the impact on beach and water quality
Location,Access,and Hours
RPV Beach is located below Founders Park and the Trump National Golf Course
which is located at 1 Ocean Trails Drive in Rancho Palos Verdes.Dog Beach
hours will be one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset,and are consistent
with City beach and park hours of operation.Parking for access to RPV Beach is
available in the public parking lot adjacent to the Trump National Clubhouse,
along Ocean Trails Drive,and in the public parking lot at the terminus of La
Rotunda Drive.The beach may be accessed via the Sunset Trail,or the Sunrise
Trail from Founders Park.Dogs must be leashed while accessing the beach,
and in all other areas,unless designated as an off-leash area.
Dog Beach Pilot Program
February 21,2012
Page.13-46
Enforcement and Reporting
Enforcement and reporting will be provided by the Mountains Recreation and
Conservation Authority (MRCA)Rangers,the agency that also provides
enforcement for the Palos Verdes Nature Preserve.During the pilot program,
Rangers will enforce applicable City ordinances,provide public education,and
provide reports on usage and activity on the beach,at Founders Park,and the
public trails in the open space areas adjacent to the beach.These reports will
assist the City to evaluate the pilot program.Rangers will provide approximately
10 hours of enforcement each week of during the pilot program.
Operc;ltion and Maintenance
During the pilot program,it will be emphasized that dog beach visitors are
responsible for cleaning up after their pets and following applicable rules and
regulations.City maintenance contract staff will perform maintenance on the
beach in the form of litter and garbage removal and provision of signage,dog
waste bags,and refuse containers.Signage installed will contain pilot dog beach
rules and regulations and incident reporting procedures.
Liability
During the pilot program,it will be emphasized that dog owners are entirely
responsible for their dog's actions and accept the risk of allowing their dog to
interact with people,other dogs,and existing beach conditions.The City accepts
no responsibility for the behavior of dogs,dog owners,or general beach patrons.
Rules &Regulations
Rules and regulations for a dog beach are listed below.Rules and regulations
may be altered depending on whether off-leash or on-leash dog recreation is
allowed on the beach.
•Dogs are not permitted on the beach at any time other than scheduled
hours,or at any place along the shoreline other than the designated
recreational area and direct access to and from it;
•Dogs are not permitted to trespass on any private property;
•The off-leash dog area must be accessed from the Sunset Trail or the
Sunrise Trail from Founders Park;
•Dog owners must possess a leash for the dog that shall be worn by the
dog at all times that the dog is outside of any off-leash dog areas;
•Each dog must be under the control of an adult,and only one dog per
adult is permitted.The dog must be under visual and voice control by the
owner at all times;
Dog Beach Pilot Program
February 21,2012
Page.23-47
•Dog owners must be able to demonstrate that they have a suitable
container or instrument to remove dog feces and shall dispose of it in
waste containers provided for that purpose;
•All dogs must wear a collar with current tags;
•Current vaccinations and licenses are required;
•Aggressive dogs are not permitted,and any dog exhibiting 'aggressive
behavior must be removed from the beach immediately;
•Owners are legally responsible for any injury caused by dogs;
•Female dogs in heat are not permitted on RPV Beach;
•An adult must supervise children under the age of 14;and
•Owners accept responsibility for the actions of their dogs.
Pilot Program Evaluation
Evaluation of the program will focus on six key factors:
1.Patron compliance with the rules and regulations:MRCA Rangers will
monitor and survey the beach during the pilot program to observe
compliance with rules and regulations.
2.Public Health Risk:Environmental analysis performed prior to the pilot
program will define any necessary measures or actions necessary to
mitigate environmental or public health risks.
3.Reported incidents:Staff will report back on and analyze reported
incidents which may include aggressive dog behavior,dogs interfering
with adjacent property owners or beach user groups,and any other
reported concerns.
4.Parking and Access:Parking and access will be evaluated,including
determining whether additional use at the off-leash dog area negatively
impacts access to Founders Park,RPV Beach,or coastal trails.
5.Impact on Other Beach Uses and Adjacent Property Owners:Impact
of off-leash dog recreational use with other beach and park users and
adjacent property owners will be evaluated.
6.Public Feedback:Staff will solicit public feedback on the pilot program
from the public including beach users (with and without dogs)and
adjacent property owners.
Dog Beach Pilot Program
February 21,2012
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Attachment "E"
Community Feedback and Matrix
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Attachment "E"
Dog Beach Public Input
Rancho Palos Verdes Beach
City staff has solicited feedback on whether the community would like dogs to be
allowed on Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.Articles and ads have appeared in the
Daily Breeze,Palos Verdes Patch,and Palos Verdes Peninsula News
successfully soliciting feedback.The City has also solicited feedback by placing
signage at Founders Park and Rancho Palos Verdes Beach,creating a project
webp~ge and Iistserv group,and placing fliers at public counters.Staff has
particularly reached out to adjacent property owners,most notably the Trump
National Golf Course and the Portuguese Bend Club communities.Community
feedback demonstrates that a Rancho Palos Verdes Dog Beach is a passionate
issue,and feelings run strong amongst dog be~ch proponents and opponents.
Adjacent Uses
Trump National Golf Course has noted concerns with incompatibility of an off-
leash dog beach with the golf course and with the access to the beach.RPV
Beach visitors most often park along Ocean Trails Drive and in the public parking
lot adjacent to the Trump Clubhouse,and then cross a main golf cart path to
access Founders Park and RPV Beach.Due to the design of the golf course in
relation to Founders Park and Rancho Palos Verdes Beach,access to the park
and beach requires visitors to cross this pathway.Trump National staff has also
voiced concerns with dogs running off-leash and dog owners not picking up dog
waste on the golf course and in Founders Park.
The City has received feedback from two Portuguese Bend Community
Homeowners Associations.At the invitation of the Tract 16540 HOA,staff met
with a group of the residents in November 2011 to provide an overview of the
project and answer questions.This group expressed general support for an off-
leash dog beach,but was concerned with large increases in use and requested
the City look into measures that would deter trespassing onto the Tract 16540
private beach and into the Portuguese Bend community in general.The
Portuguese Bend Club HOA has submitted the attached formal position against
the dog beach citing reasons such as liability,sanitation,and safety concerns as
well as increased trespassing onto the private beach and neighborhood.
The City's staff facility coordinator for Founders Park has observed that dog
owners often release their pets from the public parking lot,allowing them to run
through Founders Park to the dog beach,and often do not pick up after their
dogs.This is conflicting with both public enjoyment of the park and with
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Founders Park rental events.The City coordinates an average of 15-20 private
event rentals per year at Founders Park,generating approximately $20,000
annually in revenue.Parties renting the park average 50-100 guests and report
that finding parking is challenging,as the public parking lot adjacent to the Trump
clubhouse is often at capacity on weekends.
Community at Large
In addition to feedback from immediately adjacent property owners,the City has
received numerous emails and phone calls from the public voicing their opinion
of whether dogs should be allowed on the beach.The attached matrix
summarizes comments and shows that as of the time this report was written,
staff received emails and phone calls from 268 individuals.Some individuals
sent in multiple comments,but are only counted once in this total.Of the 268
individuals that have provided input to date on this issue,193 (72%)support a
dog beach,and 75 (28%)oppose the idea.Among the 268 respondents,137
(51 %)identified themselves as Rancho Palos Verdes residents.Of these,86
residents (63%)support a dog beach,and 51 (37%)oppose.The individual
responses are attached to this staff report.The Palos Verdes Patch also did an
informal on-line poll that reported that of 69 poll takers,54 supported and 15
opposed a dog beach at RPV Beach.
Common reasons quoted in public correspondence for opposing a dog beach
include environmental and sanitation concerns,dog bites and fights,and rowdy
dog behavior,especially around small children.Some residents dislike the idea
of devoting the City's sandiest beach to dog recreation.
Common reasons quoted in public correspondence in support of a dog beach
include that there are too few places in the community to run dogs off-leash,that
instances of dog bites and fights are rare if not non-existent,that the beach has
been successfully used for many years as a dog beach,and that off-leash dog
exercise is good for dogs and fun for owners.
Public Feedback
Dog Beach at RPV Beach
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Dogs at RPV Beach·Public Correspondence Matrix
I>ate Receive Last Name First Name CITY Contact Neighborhood SUPPORT OPPOSE COMMENTS SUMMARY
1/28/2012 Agnew Charles RPV email Phantom Dr.1 Safety and sanitation concems.
8/18/2011 Akbar Carol RHE email 1
21412012 Amemiya Youko San Pedro email 1 -
1/30/2012 Anderson Connie Torrance email 1
8/19/2011 Anonymous RPV phone 1
211412012 Anonymous phone 1
8/25/2011 Anonymous RPV phone 1 Create a beach similar to Coronado Dog Beach in San Diego.
8/25/2011 Anonymous RPV phone 1
8/25/2011 Anonymous RPV phone 1
8/25/2011 Anonymous RPV phone 1 No longer visits beach because she is scared of dogs.
1/30/2012 Anonymous phone 1 Beach space is limited in Califomia.Don't dedicate it to dogs.
219/2012 Arceri Tveanne Redondo Beach email 1
2/11/2012 Arkoff Simon RPV email Exultant Drive 1 Violates City Ordinances,endangered species,and public safety concerns.
8/18/2011 Ashla Mary RPV phone 1
8/25/2011 Aston Nancy RPV phone 1
8/25/2011 Balint Jackie RPV phone 1
8/2212011 Bana Peter PVE phone 1 His family and his dog enjoy the beach.
Beach is an eyesore to the community and a dumping ground for irresponsible
211212012 Beauvais Michael RPV email Dauntless Drive 1 people.
8/18/2011 Bender George RPV phone 1 Mutt mitts,garbage cans,and signage would encourage cleanup efforts.
Good source of exercise for dogs.The beach is an ideal location as it is not easily
10/5/2011 Bernstein Cornelia San Pedro email South Shores 1 accessible by crowds and is not a swimming beach.
10/18/2011 Bernstein William San Pedro email South Shores 1 Good location because it is not a swimming beach.
812512011 Beron-Rawdon Deborah phone 1
211412012 Blandford John RPV email Seawall Road 1
Never has encountered a dog fight or aggressive dog.Has been going to beach for
8/18/2011 Blindbury Cindy PVE email 1 25 years.She also patronizes RPV business during her trips to the beach.
8/18/2011 Blindbury Cindy PVE phone
Has observed responsible dog owners and has enjoyed the location for at least 25
2110/2012 Blindbury Cindy PVE email years.
2111/2012 Blindburv Bob PVE email 1 Majority of dog owners are conscientious.Beach is perfect for dogs.
2113/2012 Boldrick Mike NIA email 1 Prefers self-policing and forming a committee to monitor the situation.
21212012 Boop Jessica RPV email 1 Dog feces make beach unattractive to humans
8/18/2011 Booth Marcia RPV phone 1 Off-leash dogs interfere with hikes to tide pools.
8/25/2011 Bracegirdle Suzi phone 1
Would like a dog park in addition to a dog beach.Not enough local places for off-
9/1/2011 Brock Gwen RPV phone 1 leash dog recreation.
8/18/2011 Bucher Laurie RPV phone 1 Supports both a dog beach and a dog park.
215/2012 Burke Diedre Carson email 1
8/19/2011 Cahill Diana PVE phone 1 Believes dogs need a place to run,although she is not a dog owner.
9/612011 Casaburi Mary email
1/23/2012 Chamberlain John Torrance email Hawthorne Blvd 1 Dog owners pay taxes too.There are plenty of beaches for humans only.
1/23/2012 Chamberlain Caroline RPV email 1 Please do not ban something enjoyed by so many people and dogs.
1/24/2012 Chamberlain Elizabeth email 1
8/21/2011 Chappell Jennifer PVE email 1
1/1212012 Chittick Elizabeth RPV phone PBC 1 People are abusing use of private Portuguese Bend Beach.
8/25/2011 Clark Dorothy phone 1
8/16/2011 Colich John and Janine RPV email PBC 2 Frequent visitors,never have had negative experience.
8/18/2011 Colich John RPV phone PBC
2113/2012 Conover Debbie Manhattan Beach email 1
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8/29/2011 Cook Ellen PVE phone 1 Important to have off-leash dog area.Good location for it.
211512012 Cunningham Janelle RPV email Cherryhill Lane 1 Would also like horses allowed on the beach.
21212012 Daley Jeanne Torrance email 1
1/30/2012 Datta Savita phone 1
8/30/2011 Davies Jeremy RPV email 1 -
8/29/2011 Davies Pippa email 1 Don't take away the dog beach.
1/26/2012 Davis Diane RHE email 1 Off-leash dogs can be dangerous to children.Dogs are not cleaned up after.
Beach has almost no maintenance crew.A dead dog was left on the beach for a
1/212012 Del Moro Chris RPV email 1 week.
1/25/2012 Del Moro Chris RPV email RPV Municipal Code states no dogs on beach.
1/30/2012 Del Moro Chris RPV email Environmental concerns.
1/30/2012 Del Moro Chris RPV email Environmental concerns.
217/2012 Del Moro Chris RPV email
2113/2012 Dewiitt Lorrie NIA email 1
1/31/2012 Dibbo s,Joanne,Amelia,and RPV email Camino Porvenir 4 Have never seen negative incident.Permits are acceptable.
1/23/2012 Dime Joel RPV email PBC 1 Concerned about trespassing,safety,and sanitation.
Great location for a dog beach.It is not swimming beach.Would be great to keep i
8/2212011 Doran Lynn RPV email 1 for locals.
8/29/2011 Doran Lynn RPV email PBC
1/20/2012 Doran Lynn RPV email PBC
Afraid to take her grandchildren to beach because of aggressive dog behavior.
8/18/2011 Dorsett Dana RPV phone Seaview 1 Please enforce ordinance.
8/19/2011 Dorsett Dana RPV email Seaview Afraid to take her grandsons to the beach due to risk of mauling.
Dogs are aggressive to runners on the beach.Beach is becoming more and more
1/21/2012 Dorsett Jeff RPV email Seaview 1 popular.
Doesn't use beach as often any more.Afraid of unleashed dogs.City should enforce
2/13/2012 Dorsett Jeff RPV email Exultant Drive existing leach laws.
2/13/2012 Dorsett Jeff RPV email Exultant Drive Threatened by dogs while running in the area.
1/30/2012 Dykstra Debra RPV email 1 Never seen a negative event.Dog owners love it.Perfect location.
8/25/2011 Easton Daphine RPV phone 1 Supports on-leash dog beach only.
1/31/2012 Ellestad Carol RPV email 1 Would be great to have a local off-leash area.
21712012 Farman Tracy email 1 Environmental concerns.
21712012 Farman Tracy email Environmental concerns.
1/25/2012 Farrow Michelle email 1
8/25/2011 Feingold Don and Cheri RPV phone 2
8/27/2011 Felton Leah PVE email 1 Please don't take this asset away.
8/25/2011 Fernandez Carrie phone 1
211212012 Fernandez Marc RPV email 1 The beach should be left open to all as nature intended.
Grandson has been run over by dogs twice on the beach.If dogs are allowed on
8/18/2011 Ferraro Charles RPV phone 1 the beach,they should be on a leash.
Her grandson was nearly bitten by a dog on the beach and was bumped on a
1/30/2012 Ferraro Barbara RPV phone 1 second occasion.
1/20/2012 Fitzpatrick Susan RHE phone 1 Dog beach needed.Hasn't seen any problems on the beach.
1/26/2012 Fleishman Jeff Torrance email 1
8/19/2011 Foster John RPV phone 1
8/2212011 Foster Elizabeth phone 1 Concerned by potential health issues.
2/8/2012 Foster Charles PVE email 1
8/25/2011 Fox Anita phone 1
Concerned by dog waste on beach.No longer takes granddaughter to beach.
8/18/2011 Fraix Louis RPV phone 1 Would like beach to be scenic and for residents only.
9/23/2011 Frane Deborah email 1 Please keep the beach off-leash dog friendly.
9/21/2011 Fredrickson Terrv RPV email 1 Off-leash doa areas make dogs less aggressive and are a good source of exercise.
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1/31/2012 Fredrickson Terry RPV email Would like off-leash dog use nearby.
1/24/2012 Garland Mathew email 1 loosed dogs have knocked over and frightened his child.
8/18/2011 Gelb Maxine RPV phone 1 People don't pick up after their dogs.Dogs don't belong on a public beach.
91712011 Gemacke Evelyn PVE phone 1
8/19/2011 Giacomoni PVP phone 1 .
1/2412012 Gibson Blair Torrance email ladeeneAve 1 Rocky terrain makes ideal for dog use.
8/29/2011 Gladstone lisa RPV email Cinnamon lane 1 Please don't take away dog beach.
8/29/2011 Gladstone lisa RPV phone Cinnamon lane
1/26/2012 Gleghorn George and Barbara RPV email 2 Potential for befoUling of one of the only sandy beaches in the area.
8/18/2011 Godbold liz RPV phone 1 She was bitten by off-leash dog in June 2010.
Too few places for off-leash dog activity near by.Remote location reduces
8/18/2011 Green Judy email 1 overcrowding.
8/30/2011 Gregory Jason Redondo Beach email 1 Makes RPV a better place.
1/22/2012 Groat Geoff RPV email 1 Should be on a temporary basis allowing for review of how it progresses.
8/25/2011 Grossman Debra phone 1
8/18/2011 Hackathorn Polly email 1
2111/2012 Hassen Dianne RPV email Seaview 1 Environmental concems.
1/23/2012 Hays John Redondo Beach email Yacht Club Way 1
217/2012 Hazard Oliver email 1
8/25/2011 Hecker Dan phone 1
219/2012 Helfrich Trude WTorrance email 1
211212012 Henrikson Irene RPV email Searaven Drive 1 Recently deemed a trial "Dog Beach"that should receive and "F"for negligence.
91712011 Hiburger Paul RPV phone 1
1/22/2012 Hill Norm RPV email Seamount Drive 1 Dogs need a place to exercise.
214/2012 Hoffman Bruce RPV email SpindriflDr.1 Unsafe and unsanitary.
1/29/2012 Holmes Chonita email 1 Access to beach is too difficult.
8/18/2011 Houston Jenny other phone 1 Too few places for off-leash dog activity near by.
2/912012 Huffman Gary Torrance email 1
2/15/2012 Hunter Bill and Marianne email 2
8/24/2011 Hyatt Herb RPV phone 1 Good location because it is not a swimming beach.
8/30/2011 Jackson Hannah RPV email 1 Please don't take away dog beach.It is a healthy activity.Resident for 20 years.
216/2012 Jacobsen Tom and Michelle RPV email Crestridge 2
21212012 Jelske Julie Torrance email 1 Must provide lots of doggie bags.
2/13/2012 Jennings Kathryn N/A email 1
9/612011 Johnson Patti PVE email 1 Great location for dog beach.Would also like a dog park.
2/11/2012 Johnson Susanne N/A email 1
8/17/2011 Jones lori email 1
1/23/2012 Jones Judy San Pedro phone 1 She has never seen problems on the beach.
1/27/2012 Jones lori email Already is a well established dog beach with no issues.
1/24/2012 Junyszek Jean San Pedro email Perigee Circle 1
8/19/2011 Kalmey Robert RPV phone
8/21/2011 Kalmey Robert RPV email Admirable Drive 1 Not a swimming beach.No attacks witnessed.Don't take the dog beach away.
1/23/2012 Kalmey Robert RPV email Admirable Drive Most who frequent this beach are dog owners.Not a swimming or sunning beach.
8/19/2011 Kato lisa RPV phone 1
219/2012 Keeling Richard Torrance email 1
8/18/2011 Kelly Jan RPV phone 1 Would like off-leash dog use and garbage cans on beach.
1/26/2012 Kennedy Trudy RPV email 1 Community needs an off-leash dog beach.
1/26/2012 Kennedy Amy email 1
211212012 Kissel Janet Torrance email 1
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1/24/2012 Koerner Mike RPV email 1 Conflicting users.
1/27/2012 Kojima Jean RPV email 1 Dogs should be allowed on the beach on a leash.
211/2012 Kollar Bob and Janice RPV email Coolheights Dr.2 Not a swimming beach.
2113/2012 Kozynsky Paula Torrance phone 1
Dog owners are responsible and clean up after their pets.Please don't take the off-
1/19/2011 Kronheim Kristine RPV email 1 leash area away.
1/26/2012 Lancaster Barb San Pedro email South Shores 1 Dogs there are friendly and are in real need of on off-leash area.
Concems with owners picking up after dogs,and dedicating RPV's most sandy
1/25/2012 Lauck Bob RPV email Seaview 2 beach to dogs.
211312012 Lee Flora RPV email 1 Recently discovered the beach and really wants ittumed into a formal dog beach.
2/14/2012 Lehman Jim email Vigilance Drive 1 Require permit and limit the number of dogs allowed at one time.
A trash can is needed,and possibly a lifeguard or someone to watch for aggressive
1/27/2012 Letwin Debra email 1 dogs.
8i18/2011 Levine Lisa phone It's great to be able to exercise dogs off-leash.Few places like it.
2/10/2012 Levine Lisa PVE phone 1
211312012 Levine Lisa PVE email
2113/2012 Levine Lisa PVE email
1/29/2012 Leyva Karen email 1
1/17/2012 Litman Mark email 1
8/31/2011 Longacre Jane RPV phone 1
8/18/2011 Lowe Carol RHE phone 1
8/18/2011 Luzan Connie RHE phone 1 Would like pit bulls excluded from the beach.
1/26/2012 MacMillan Andrea RPV email 1 Dog beach is RPV asset.Hasn't encountered negative experiences there.
2/13/2012 Mardesich Sandra San Pedro email South Shores 1
8/23/2011 Marino Joe and Beatrice RPV phone 2 Great to have a close off-leash dog area.
8/19/2011 Marmarelis Gayleen RPV phone 1 Too few places for off-leash dog activity near by.
1/24/2012 Martinez Dennis Los Angeles email Los Angeles 1 People are respectful.There are too few dog beaches.
8/27/2011 Masten Rex RPV lelter 1 See attached article.
2113/2012 Mathai Jerry RPV email Coil Road 1
2113/2012 Maxwell Valerie Manhattan Beach email Cedar Avenue 1
2113/2012 McBee Jennifer San Pedro email 1
Hasn't seen any negative issues.Great location because it is not a swimming
211/2012 McCarthy Tim and Kathy RPV email Santona Dr.2 beach.
21212012 McCroskey Annet Lomita Pines email 1 Kids fine with dogs off-leash.
1/2212012 McKinnell James Hermosa Beach 1 Should be left as dog beach but not advertised to avoid crowds.
1/16/2012 Meffert David RPV
21712012 Meffert David RPV email 1
1/13/2012 Meffert David RPV email
21712012 Meffert David RPV email
211212012 Memin William email 1 Leave beach as is -no change.
Has been going for many years.Please don't take it away.Garbage cans would
8/18/2011 Money Susan RPV phone 1 help.
8/18/2011 Money Evan RPV phone 1 Never had issues with the dog beach.It is remote and people respect it.
213/2012 Montano Amanda Redondo Beach email 1 Owner of two dogs and never encountered dog problems.
1127/2012 More Marlin RHE email Rolling Meadows 1
1/27/2012 Mueller Hubert RPV email 1 Dogs become aggressive when off-leash.
8/18/2011 not provided Robert RPV phone Seaview 1
10/3/2011 not provided Chris phone 1 Beach visitor saw a dog nearly bite a child's face.
1121/2012 not provided Gabrielle email 1 Not a dog owner,but likes the dog beach.
1/27/2012 not provided J.email 1 Dogs are frightening to children.
211112012 Olsen Gina Hermosa Beach email 1
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Dogs charged her grandchildren and she no longer goes to beach.Liability to the
8/18/2011 Padilla Virginia RPV email 1 City.
8/25/2011 Pam Redondo Beach phone 1
216/2012 Panetta Mark RPV email 1 Unsanitary.
1/31/2012 Pappo Kathleen RPV email Vista Mesa Dr.1 Need a local off-leash dog area.
21212012 Park Noel RPV email 1
8/18/2011 Patton Randy and Linda RPV email 2 Dog owners are responsible.Great outlet for RPV community.
9/30/2011 Pearce Craig San Pedro phone 1
1/26/2012 Penland Tom email 1 Dog barking is a deterrent.and a neighbor was bitten on the beach.
1/2412012 Peralta Gregory Wilmington email 1 Dog beaches are good for dogs and good for people to socialize.
8/18/2011 Perry Taryn email 1 Not a swimming beach.Beach visitors are respectful.
2113/2012 Peterson Eileen RPV email 1
8/25/2011 Pisano Nina RPV phone 1 Great to have off-leash dog beach so close.Has been going for 4 years.
Dog owners are responsible and clean up after their pets.Please don't take the off-
9/8/2011 Pisano Nina RPV email leash area away.
8/25/2012 Pizano Teresa RPV email 1 Great Asset.
1/29/2012 Quan Norman and Helen RPV email 2 Dog owners are irresponsible.
1/30/2012 Ramezani Arman RPV email 1
2114/2012 Randall Garv RPV email Heroic Drive 1 Suggests city work to enforce all current rules and laws on all RPV beaches.
8/24/2011 Renfrow phone 1 Supports dog beach if it doesn't draw large crowds and can be kept clean.
1/28/2012 Reynolds Mike and Stacey Redondo Beach email 2
1/26/2012 Richardson Patrizia Manhattan Beach email 1 One of the few places a dog can play on the beach.Leave as is.
1/24/2012 Richmond Lance Redondo Beach email 1 No other off-leash dog site in city.
8/19/2011 Riedman Betty RPV email 1 Has not experienced any problems at the beach.See attached picture.
8/24/2011 Rigenstein Dan phone 1 Good location because it is not a swimming beach.
2/4/2012 Rivera LeAnna LonaBeach email 1
8/25/2011 Rosato Wendy RPV phone 1
2115/2012 Ruiz Jacqui RPV email 1
2/10/2012 Ruiz Roy San Pedro email 1
1/25/2012 Sabol Phil email 1
1/28/2012 Sattler Cindy PVE email 1 Great place for children and dogs.Need off-leash dog area nearby.
2/1212012 Sattler John PVE email 1 Please keep beach open and friendly to off-leash dog use.
8/18/2011 Sawelson Jordan RPV phone 1
1/27/2012 Sax Elizabeth RPV email Admirable Dr.1 Sanitation and safety concems when dogs and children interact.
217/2012 Sax Michael RPV email 1
1/26/2012 Schamp Roger and Carol email 2
218/2012 Schultz-Zeit Patricia RPV email 1
Has been jumped on by dogs on numerous occasions.Allowing dogs off-leash is an
2112/2012 Selite Julie N/A email 1 accident waiting to happen.
She has seen families and dog owners getting along well.and believes dog owners
8/18/2011 Seraphim Mercedes RPV phone 1 clean up after their pets.
1/25/2012 Shaffer Stuart RPV email Admirable Drive 1
218/2012 Simich Tyler RPV email 1
1/25/2012 Simon Jan RPV phone Stalwart Drive 1 Never seen any problems with dogs there
1/26/2012 Skifstrom Nancy 1 There are not enough places to take dogs to play.
8/25/2011 Skorka Darlene RPV phone 1
1/26/2012 Skorka Darlene RPV email
2113/2012 Skriden Mona N/A email 1
2113/2012 Smith Fran N/A email 1
8/19/2011 Smyth Marlene phone
Her family and her dog love the beach as is.It is secluded.so the use shouldn't
8/19/2011 Smyth Marlene email 1 bother too many people.
8/18/2012 Snyder Liz RPV ohone 1
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8/18/2011 St.John Mary PVE phone 1 Suggested perhaps a fee for non-residents.
8/19/2012 St.John John RPV phone 1
1/24/2012 St.John Larry RPV email Admirable Drive 1
2112/2012 Stachowski Sheri RPV email 1 Very much in favor of allowing dogs off-leach at the beach.
2/9/2012 Steffe Debbie PVE email 1 -
1/26/2012 Stevens Barbara RPV email Seaview 1 Dog waste and irresponsible dog owners.
1/28/2012 Stevens Edward RPV email PBC 1 Safety and sanitation concems.
9/13/2011 Stewart Steve Stewart phone PBC 2 Vice president of Tract 16540 HOA.40 year resident.
1/2212012 Stough Christine and Sellers Redondo Beach email 2 Rocky terrain makes ideal for dog use.Not a swimming beach.
1/31/2012 Sutherland Tom and Christina RPV email 2 Their kids love to visit it.No problems encountered.
9/6/2011 Swank Lynn RPV email 1
8/18/2011 Sybilrud Maryann RPV phone 1
8/18/2011 Sybilrud Mr.&Mrs.Jeff email 2
1/20/2012 Tapie Brad RPV phone 1 The dogs love this beach
8/25/2011 Tarlow Elisa RPV email 1 Dog and family beach -please don't take it away.
9/1/2011 Tarlow Elisa RPV email
2/13/2012 Taus Stephen RPV email Palos Vista Drive 1
1/20/2012 Tobis Cindy PVE email 1 Dog beach is great idea.but please make sure owners clean up after their pets.
1/27/2012 Toigo Steven email 1
2115/2012 Toth Mary RPV email Phantom Dr.1 Environmental concerns.
219/2012 Tregarthen Lois RPV email 1
219/2012 Tseng Peter RPV email 1
9/212011 Unmack Sherry RPV phone 1
1/26/2012 Unvert Dave email 1 Keep it a dog beach.
Please don't take away this dog beach.Ocean Beach in San Diego is a
9/8/2011 Van Buren Blair and Krishna RPV email Cinnamon Lane 2 successfully managed dog beach.
1/20/2012 Vargas Kimberly RPV phone 1 Cannot enjoy beach or picnics,dogs jump up on people.
1/20/2012 Varner Linda RPV email Sea Cliff Drive 1
1/29/2012 Varner Bill RPV email 1
211212012 Volman Teresa San Pedro email 1 Maybe designate "doggie days"to be fair to all?
2/13/2012 Watanabe Grace RPV email Dauntless Drive 1 Not safe for visitors.native species,or dogs.
8/18/2011 Weber Barbara RPV phone 1 Difficult access to the beach prevents large crowds.
8/2212011 Weismann Phyllis email 1 Would be great to separate large and small dogs if possible.
1/26/2012 West Tony and Linda Hermosa Beach email 2
8/1712011 Winkopp Beth RPV email 1 Consider times of the day or permits for off-leash dog beach use.
217/2012 Wirth Carol email 1
8/18/2011 Wishner Howard RPV phone 1 Only place on the Peninsula for dogs to playoff-leash.
1/24/2012 Wong Donna RPV email Seaview 1 Leave it known to the locals and not the mass public.
8/29/2011 Woodcock Debra RPV phone 1
1/21/2012 Young Laurie San Pedro email 1 Dog beach may not be safe for children to visit.
8/18/2011 zambrini Ted PVE phone 1
2110/2012 Zeit Pat RPV mail Sea Horse Lane 1 Not safe for visitors,native species,or dogs.
218/2012 Zeit Chip RPV email 1
1/27/2012 Zupke Janet RPV email 1 Afraid of dogs.
1/27/2012 Zupke Jim RPV email Seaview 1 Conflicting user groups,including children.
Illegal use of city property,harming endangered species,and not safe for anyone
2/10/2012 Zupke Jim N/A email group.
2110/2012 Zupke Janet N/A email
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Public Correspondence
ATTACHMENT F-1
PORTUGUESE BEND CLUB
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
4100 PALOS VERDES DRIVE SOUTH
RANCHO PALOS VERDES,CALIFORNIA 90275
October 17,2011
Carolynn Petru
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Director
30940 Hawthorne Boulevard
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275.
Re:Dogs off-leash at the Beachbelow Trump Golf Course
Dear Ms.Petru:
The Portuguese Bend Club Homeowners Association Board of Directors (PBC)respectfully
requests that the City Council not make the beach below Trump Golf Course ("Trump's Beach)
into a dog's off-leash beach.We base our request on the dual issues of safety and health.
PBC has already received many reports of people being chased,frightened and even attacked by
loose dogs.We believe that there is a tension between the use of the beach by the off leash dogs
and the humans.Whatever the reason the animal acts in the fashion it does,the result is the
same,fear and possible injury to the passerby.That is not fair.
Los Angeles County prohibits dogs on beaches for many reasons including health concerns.
Many people do not clean up after their dogs.If this beach is designated as a dog off-leash beach
the influx of dogs will substantially increase due to the fact that it will be advertised as a
pennitted-"dog beach"It is our opinion that people will come from far and wide to run their dogs
on the beach and deposiHheir droppings'on the sand and:in:the surf.
,.
Our research shows that the only off leash "dog beach"in Los Angeles County,that we know of,
is in Long Beach.That beach is only open to dogs during certain hours,and the boundaries to
the off leash area are clearly marked.In addition,there is a group of volunteers that monitor the
area during "off leash"times, and there are strict rules that one must follow in order to bring the
dogs into that area...There is a specific dog to human ratio,and people must clean up after their
dogs.If anyone violates the rules,they are asked to leave the beach.Unfortunately,the Truinp
Beach proposal does not have any such rules or safeguards in place.People are not currently
respecting the boundaries of Trump's Beach,and many are not properly supervising their pets.
We believe that it would be very difficult for the City to properly monitor and enforce these
activities at such a remote location.
ATTACHMENT F-2
This increase in traffic to Trump's Beach will have an enonnous negative impact on the
Portuguese Bend Club because it will increase the number of trespassers into our community.If
these trespassers include dogs,it will bring the same problems of fear,possible attack and animal
droppings into our community.Portuguese Bend Club has a strict "no dogs allowed"policy on
its beach for these very reasons..
J'he problem of trespassers in our area has already increased dramatically this past year and has
had a negative impact on our residents'safety and security.Trespassers,especially those with
dogs,make it even harder for us to provide the family atmosphere that we so value for our beach.
Finally,if the City of Rancho Palos Verdes designates this beach as a dog's off-leash beach,the
City may well expose itself to greater liability in the event someone is bitten or attacked by a
loose dog or dogs.Therefore,we urge the Rancho Palos Verdes City council to vote no to
allowing Trump's Beach to become an dog's off-leash beach..
Very truly yours,
~A.~e-J""---
Michael A.Barth
President
JJJdYJ4k~~
Gale N.Lovr~,-.
General Manager
cc .PBC Board of Directors
ATTACHMENT F-3
Last June,I went for an afternoon jog on the trails near Trump.I saw the tide was
out so I decided to continue my run excited that I could get to Portuguese Bend
Club all the way in the hard sand.A dog approached me as his owner was basking
in the sun.I came to a stop and the owner assured me,tlOh -he's friendly."No
sooner had the words left her mouth when the dog started to attack me and got
me pretty good on my upper back.I continued my run to the lifeguard at PBC
who I knew would be on duty and could administer first aid.
Since thi~incident,I now ask all the dog owners who walk with their dogs off-
leash to please gather in their dogs while I walk by.Ninety five percent are happy
to grab their dogs while of course mentioning that they too have a tlfriendly"dog.
The remaining five percent who walk with unleashed dogs have an amazingly
arrogant attitude and express frustration with me for my request.It is to you five
percent that I want to say,tlput your dogs on a leash."We shouldn't even have to
ask.We all have the right to walk the beautiful trails in Palos Verdes without the
fear of one of these tlfriendly"dogs having an unfriendly moment.I often jog
with my younger son who is way faster than me (I hate to admit this)and I am so
glad that he was not with me in June because he definitely would have come
upon the dog before me.
Let's make the trails safe and fun for all.
Sincerely,
Liz Godbold
ATTACHMENT F-4
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf
course.Unfortunately since the city has taken over this
part of the coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void
of rules or regulations,the beach is no longer safe for
visitors,native species or dogs.With word spreading
quickly through out Southern California and visitors
coming from up to 100 miles away,the days of a few
people/dogs upon the beach is being swept away by
thousands of people and hundreds of dogs rotating
through this sensitive habitat.Not only is this use of
city property in violation of city ordinances and therefore
illegal,this de facto dog park is adversely effecting the
local community's safety,it's also directly impacting the
endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,Live
Forever succulent as well as native sea life that call these
shores home.I do not understand why the city of Rancho
Palos Verdes would want to open one of the few natural-
occurring sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to
an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los Angeles
County where ten million people live?After reading the
minutes from the August 16,2011 and the December 20,
2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly does not
meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your
guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches
or dog parks in California.Every dog beach and dog park
has rules and regulations in place to protect the people,
dog owners and their dogs.If the City does develop and
implement rules and regulations for a Dog Beach,who will
enforce them and where will funding come from?This
area is no longer safe for anyone group,including dogs;it
is out of control on must days with good weather and is
ATTACHMENT F-5
routinely left trashed.I would like to have a choice as to
whether my family or I have to walk by an off leash Pit
Bull,Doberman Pincher or German Shepherd,dog/human
feces and I no longer do.I have found that the cons far
outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation
shows us how the beach would work,currently this trial
gets an "F"for negligence.The idea of a dog beach here
sounds great,but the reality of it is a nightmare.With no
emergency access,enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage
or rules this is not an appropriate place for a dog beach.
Please respect the local community and environment by
saying NO to the R.P.V dog beach.
Sincerely,
Pat Zeit
4100 Seahorse Ln.
Rancho Palos Verdes,Ca 90275
ATTACHMENT F-6
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Council Member
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Dear Anthony:
Following up my letter to you dated 8/13/11,I am enclosing a copy of an article that
appeared in the Los Angeles Times (8/25/11)titled "Seeking sites for Rover to roam."
According to this report,the city of Rancho Palos Verdes is studying whether to create an
official off-leash dog area on the beach below the Trump National Golf Course.For all
the reasons mentioned in the article,I hope the city council is not seriously considering
such an idea.I would welcome your views on this subject.
With kind regards,
P.S.The Peninsula Racquet Club is making good progress on its renovation program.So
far,we are on schedule and on budget.
ATTACHMENT F-7
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Seeking sites for Rover to roam'
LORENA I&IGUEZ ELEBEE Los Apgeles Times
§II Off-leash sites !!il Proposed off-leash sites
make for an unsafe and un-,
welcome environment for
others.
Dogs,they say,prey on
snowy plover and other pro-
tected shorebirds and some-
times harass marine life.
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GENARO MOLINA Los Angeles Times I
AT PLAY:Chester and Joe wait for a ball to be thrown at Long Beach's "dog zone."Officials at state beaches i
oppose such areas,saying dogs can create an unwelcome environment for others and prey on protected birds.1
I Urn II ,Beach authorities also only when she occasionally ~
w.oriy that dog feces,if hot drives an hO\lr to Long
cleaned up,would foul wa-Beach or the popular Hun-
ters that already have poor tington Dog Beach in Or-
quality.'ange County."My compan-
"Most dog owners are re-ion animal isn't welcome to
sponsible,but when a dog is do the activities I el\1oy."
off leash,there's no way to The campaign by Kleis·
maintain control ofit,"said and other activists is Just
craig Sap,acting superin-beginning.They've been
tendent of the park agency's having informal discussions
Angeles District."I under-with Santa Monica's beach
stand it's worked in other ar-administrator but have not
eas,but for us it's not some-drafted a detailed proposal.
thing we want to entertain."Last month,Unleash the
Dog lovers along the Los Beach members held a fund-
Angeles coast have fought raiser at a coffeehouse a few
previously for more beach blocks from the beach.They
space.sipped wine as ajazz quartet
In 2005,the state Assem-performed and dog washes
bly passed a bill that would and gift baskets were raffled
have designated a pllot off·off.A lawyer in a dog suit
leash dog zone at Dockwell-worked the room to drumup
er,but the measure died in ,enthusiasmforthecause.
the state Senate.Supporters said that giv-
A state report commis-entheopportunity,dogown-.
sioned in 2006'by then-As-ers would show how clean
semblyman Ted Lieu found and responsible they are.
nearly 20 off-leash dog "If there's a place where
beaches in California,in-people can go and run their
cluding four ih San Fran-dogs legally in a safe environ-
cisco and three in San Diego,ment,it would cut down on
butjust the one in the state's problems,"said Bruce Me-
most populous county.gowan,a Palos Verdes Es-
ManY dog owners are tates real estatei>l;Qkerwho
frUstrated that so much of isadvocatingforadogbeach
Los Angeles'sweeping on the Palos Verdes Penin-
shoreline is offJimits.sula.
"I live by the beach,yet I "If there is no legal alter-
can't take my dog,"said native,people are going to
Heidi Kleis,a Santa Monica find their own place to let
special education teacher their dogs free,"he said.
who lets her two Pomera-
nians loose on the beach tony.barboza@latimes.com
For other dog"beaches,please visit:www.latimes.com/dog-beaches
Sources:ESRI,USGS.TeleAtlas.Times reporting
Searchhig for slices of,sed
A 3-acre "dog zone"in Long Beach is currently the only
'beach in Los Angeles eoUllty where canines can legally
nin off-leash.Dog lovers hope to open more such spots at
Santa Monica and Dockweiler state beaches and at a
city-owned beach in Rancho Palos Verdes.
city of Santa Monica,which
manage those beaches,to
relax the rules and allow
dogs on th~sand.
Parks officials say the
barking,roughhousing and
mess that dogs can bring
The Los Angeles County
,astline stretches 75 miles,
It only a few blocks are for
,edogs.
With a three-acre "dog
,ne"inLongBeachtheonly
ace where'canines can
!IlillY run off-leash,many
caldoglovers drive outside
,e county to take their pets
ra romp on the sa,nd.Still
hers risk tickets by sneak-
gtheir pups to out-of-view
lache&in Malibu,Playa del
~y or the South Bay and
ttmgtliemrunfl'ee.'
But now there's talk of
lange.Canine aficionados
:mt to carve out a few more
,01f~.L.A.County water-
mt __.the four-legged.
A group called Unleash
.e Beach has started rais-
g funds to pusli for a dog
lach in Santa Monica.Arl-
her organization,Free-
ay,is rallying support fpr a
)g zone at Dockweller
;ate Beach.And the city of
mcho Palos Verdes is
udYing whether to create
I official off-leash dog'are~
I a five~acre beach it re-
ntly acquired below the
wnp National Golf
)urse.
Most of their proposals
e modest:a small patch of
nd to be used on a trial ba-
)NY BARBOZA '
I.
log lovers advocate
Ir more places on '
:aches in L.A
ounty where canines
m cavort off:leash.
"If we Just got as much
,ace as the volleyball play-
s,we'd be h,appy,"said
~orja Umano,founder of
lleash the Beach,who be-
ves that the 'shoreline is
e only place Marcello,her
,year-old Jack Russell ter-
!r,still acts like the playful,
L1l-crazy puppy he used to
'."Itcomesdowntoaques-
;n{,,;;~i'air usage of public
'at:,."
It won't be easy,though,
convince local and 'state
ficials that a bunch of un-
Ghered dogs will be good
~wards of the sand and
rf.
A California code prohib-
;unleashed dogs on state
laches without an order
>m a California State
Irks superintendent,an'
ency spokesman said,and
'ne have given such per~
lssion statewide.
Officials with the agency,
rich owns Santa Monica
ate Beach and Dockwell-
•S'"-'1;hey will oppose any
fo~JyL.ACoimtyorthe
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ATTACHMENT F-8
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Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,August 16,2011 1:30 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tom Odom'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach
FYI
From:carolynn Petru [mailto:carolynn@rpv.com]
sent:Tuesday,August 16,20111:27 PM
To:carla Morreale
Subject:Fwd:Dog Beach
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Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From:Janine Colich <six4sC@gmail.com>
Date:August 16,2011 12:41:18 PM PDT
To:cc@mv.com
Cc:citymanager@r.pv.com,parks@mv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Dear Council Members,
As homeowners in the Portuguese Bend Beach Club,and as residents of Rancho
Palos Verdes,we would like to express our support ofthe continued use ofthe beach
below the Trump OolfCourse by dogs who are accompanied by their owner.We
have accessed that beach numerous times since the golf course opened,both with
and without a dog,and have never had a negative experience.We encourage you to
support the current use.
Thank you.
John and Janine Colich
4115 Maritime Road
RPV
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-9
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:32 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Dorsett -Against
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:21 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:
Dana Dorsett is an RPV resident.She is scared to take her grandson to the beach.because large dogs,
including pit bulls have approached her grandson aggressively.She is scared to take him.Having dogs
on the beach is ruining the experience.She is not in favor of making the beach a dog beach .
•.t
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-10
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:33 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Gelb -Against
----------------------------------------------------------------
From:Reception [mallto:Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:21 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:
1.Maxine Gelb and George
2.RPV residents
3.NOT in support.People aren't picking up after their dogs.They do not believe that dogs belong on
a public beach.They feel that it does not look good to see dog excrement along a public beach.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-11
Peter Sun
--------------
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:34 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Lowe -Against
From:Reception [mailto:Receptlon@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:28 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:
1.Name:Carol Lowe
2.Rolling Hills Estates resident
3.NOT in support of new dog beach.She didn't have any other comments,other than she is strongly
against a dog beach on the peninsula
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ATTACHMENT F-12
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Carolynn Petru
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From:elizabeth.winkopp@us.redbull.com
Sent:Wednesday,August 17,2011 9:11 AM
To:CC@RPV.com
Subject:Dog Beach Proposal
To the RPV City Council-
I would like to start out by stating that I myself am a resident of Rancho Palos Verdes,CA and have
frequented the Donald Trump Golf Coarse beach with my dog during the summer months.
Although there are many cons to a dog beach,we can also make this a positive experience for everyone!
My original home town,Hollywood FL,has recently opened a dog beach that would be ideal for RPV.
The Florida beach offers "Dog friendly hours"which each person can only bring dogs between the hours
of 4-sundown of every day.During those hours,there is a park ranger that charges each dog a small fee
to enter the park.Yearly passes are available and a small discount to city members is also provided.
The park ranglilr offers fresh water,cleanup bags,and checks to make sure all of the dogs are up to date
on all shots.(Rabies tags are mandatory in the state of Florida on all pets)
I do not think that taking away the rights of all dog owners to share a spot with their pets off leash in this
area is right.The closest dog park to RPV is in North Redondo,and that area is usually hard to get to on
a weekend morning or after work.I think that if you take away our dog beach,the dog owners should
have a place on the hill to have off leash access.Too many dog owners will want to take the dogs to the
equine trails that I also frequent with my horse,which I think would be a huge issue that could arise and
has happened were aggressive dogs have attacked horses and riders.
Thank you for your time and consideration.I hope you all have wonderful days!
Thanks,
Beth Winkopp
Rancho Palos Verdes Resident
310.266.7179
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-13
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Carolynn Petru
From:Lori Jones [Iori@ultramercial.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 17,201110:05 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:The dog beach at Trumps
Honored Council Members &Staff,
I just read on Patch that you had a meeting regarding the beach below Trump's to in order to;
"...consider directing staff to conduct public outreach on future uses of the beach and research
pros and cons of dog beaches.II
I run down there almost every day and I have to tell you,it already 'is'a dog beach.Every time I
am there I see happy people and happy dogs coming and going.Why throw a wrench into the
works?I'
This other line that caught my attention was this one:
Staff proposes to reach out to local businesses,churches,and organizations along Palos Verdes
Drive South and Palos Verdes Drive West,including Trump National Golf Club,the Portuguese
Bend Club,Wayfarers Chapel,and Terranea.
Why are you reaching out to business in regards to a park?Business don't visit parks,real
people do.I can't imagine any of the above mentioned business'wanting to plan events down
there as it is a hike to get to the beach and back.That's why it's perfect for dogs.Is that the 'con'
part?Could it be that the Trump Organization has decided it doesn't want to encourage the
public on it's property unless it is golf or dining related?Are some of the dogs trespassing on
PBC's private beach by frolicking on their sand or swimming in their waves?
I'd like to end by letting you know that I don't own a dog.My opinion is simply based on how
smoothly the present situation appears to be running.
I ask that you not waste staff time or money on a situation that is presently making the public,
and their pets happy.
Best,
Lori Jones
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-14
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Carolynn Petru
From:Kelljan@aol.com
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:02 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:(no subject)
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
As a resident of Rancho Palos Verdes I would like to voice my opinion on either having a dog-friendly
or a dog -free park on the beach below Trump National Golf Club.I take my dog down to the beach
quite frequently and he loves it.Although he doesn't play in the water he just loves to play in the sand.
I am hoping
you will leave it as a LEACH FREE-DOG FREE beach.
Sincerely,
Jan Kelly
28073 Acana Road
R,P.V.
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-15
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Carolynn Petru
From:Stcpr07827@aol.com
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 11 :02 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dogs on public beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
We're delighted at the though of dogs on our public beach and we want the beach to
remain dog friendly.
Mr &Mrs.Jeff Sybilrud
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2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-16
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Carolynn Petru
From:Randy Patton [rpatton2@aol.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 9:45 PM
To:CC@rpv.com
Cc:Maureen Megowan
Subject:Dog issue on RPV public beach
We are local residents who,like so many others in this beautiful community,enjoy the outdoors
and hiking the trails with our dogs.We were exploring the trails one day and discovered the
doggie beach below the Trump National Golf Course.We hiked down to the beach (not an easy
hike I might add)and,along with other locals and their dogs,enjoyed a peaceful and playful day
at the shore.Because the trail is steep and the shoreline is rocky,the crowds are kept to a
minimum so there is little if any negative environmental impact.It was just a positive
experience all around for folks and dogs alike.What a great outlet for the RPV community ...
local access to a doggie beach where the stresses oftoday's world can just melt away.We also
would like to'note that the vast majority of dog owners who utilize the beach are responsible
regarding cleaning up after their pets and avoiding aggressive dogs.
Thanks,
Randy &Linda Patton
Dog owners of Roxy and Spike
Palos Verdes,CA
Cross country skiing is great if you live in a small country.
Steven Wright
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-17
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Carolynn Petru
From:BW Riedman [rabbit943@gmail.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 3:06 PM
To:City Council
Subject:Dog Park at Trump Beach
Attachments:HappyDog.jpg
Dear Mayor Long,Mayor Pro Tern Misetich,Councilman Campbell,Councilman Stern and
Councilman Wolowicz
I have read with interest the fact that the City is considering making the Trump Beach a leash-
free area for dogs.Let me say up front that I do not own a dog.However,I go there often with
friends that do own dogs and have never seen or experienced any problems at the beach.As a
matter of fact,I was surprised at the numbers quoted as I certainly have not seen that many
people or dogs in that area.My observation is the main problem is top-side where inconsiderate
owners let their dogs run off lease.This is disruptive not only to any event that is in progress but
annoying to others.That should not be tolerated.
In any event,I think an off-leash dog area would be a good idea for this particular beach.
Attached is a photo of one very happy dog joyfully playing in the surf at the Trump Beach
earlier this year.
Betty Riedman
3668 Cliffsite Drive,RPV
310-541-8470
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-18
ATTACHMENT F-19
Carolynn Petru
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Leah Felton [uetrecht@cox.net]
Saturday,August 27,2011 4:12 PM
CC@rpv.com
Dog Beach at Trump
Please do not fix what is not broken!My family and I,including our darling dog Ginny,
have been enjoying the tide pools and the beach below Trump for several years.It is one
of the few places where all five of us can go together to spend some time and enjoy the
fresh air.
Our dog LOVES to go down there with us and in all the times we have been there with her,
we have never observed a single problem with any other people or animals.All of the dogs
there have been consistently well-behaved,and the owners very good about cleaning up
after their pets.
Any visitor to that area will notice the abundance of happy families and canines playing
together at the beach.I am always amazed to watch the more adventurous dogs swim to
fetch tennis ~alls,and then see the pride with which they return the balls to their
owners.I think having the opportunity to see dogs performing these feats is a wonderful
experience for adults and children alike.
Please do not take this experience away from USi it would be heartbreaking for my kids if
I should have to tell them that Ginny can't go with us to the tide pools anymore.We need
to have a destination where we can spend a few hours outdoors with our family dog.The
Trump beach is the perfect place.
Thank you for your consideration,
Leah Felton
uetrecht@cox.net
2209 Thorley Place
Palos Verdes Estates,CA 90274
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ATTACHMENT F-20
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Carolynn Petru
From:Jeremy Davies Udavies@kuboaa.com]
Sent:Tuesday,August 30,2011 10:33 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
We have lived here for more than 25 years and watched Council and other organizations place
more and more restrictions on individuals and their freedom.Anyone who understands the
human/pet dynamic and has read or seen dog training specialists will know that it is imperative
that dogs as pets require socialization.This prevents them from being potentially antisocial
towards other dogs and humans.Socialization takes place off leash and involves mixing with
other dogs freely.I urge you to keep the "Trump"beach free to off leash dogs.Yes require clean
up rules which is respectful to all who use the beach.
Respectfully
Jeremy Davies
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-21
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Carolynn Petru
From:Elisa Tarlow [elisaelisa@yahoo.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 31,2011 7:20 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Dear City of RPV,
I just heard that the city may shut down the dog friendly activities of this beach.
I grew up in Palos Verdes and when I was young we would take our dog everywhere without a
word,the cliffs,the beach,trails,etc.Now,there are very few places where dogs and their
families can enjoy themselves together.Everyone I have seen at the beach is friendly and
thoughtful.The area is not close to houses where it might disturb someone.Please do not take
away the dog friendly nature of this beach.
Thank you for your consideration,
Elisa Tarlow
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-22
Carolynn Petru
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Patti Johnson [ppjpve@aol.com]
Tuesday,September 06,2011 8:50 AM
CC@rpv.com
Dog beach and park
Dear Council Members,
I am in favor of allowing off-leash dogs on the beach near the Trump golf course.This
relatively small area would be a wonderful space for the many dogs and their owners on the
Peninsula.I am in favor also of a separate dog park on the Peninsula.I hope you will
continue to try to work that into the overall plan for the city.
Thank you,
Mrs.Patti Johnson
Palos Verdes Estates
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ATTACHMENT F-23
Carolynn Petru
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Importance:
LYNN SWANK [Iynn.swank@cox.net]
Tuesday,September 06,2011 9:50 AM
cc@rpv.com
CC Agenda Skate/Dog Parks
High
RPV City Council Members:
Why?
We know some RPV residents want a skate park.
We know some RPV residents want a dog park.
The recommended consultant has heard this in previous workshops.Residents have voiced
their wants i~.these workshops.
Staff already knows that some residents want a skate park or dog park.
Staff knows that there are limited sites available to accommodate these uses.There are
other uses that should be considered at the same time,such as swimming and softball.If
this study is necessary,why limit it to just a skate or dog park?Are these 2 uses now
the first recreation priority in RPV?
The General Plan,deed restrictions,etc.provide the framework for the broader issue of
land use for active recreation and the city has few options available.
RPV cannot provide all recreation uses that we want and this proposed study only delays
the difficult decision of active park use.We need to tell residents up front that we
can't do this in RPV even though we may want to.
$24,400 of consultant fees should not be used to placate residents who hope for uses that
we cannot meet or to delay a decision that requires major policy changes.
Please consider these options:
a.Leave the money in the General Fund.
b.Use the money for Abalone Cove improvements.Residents have voiced their desire for
some inexpensive improvements such as signage and surveillance cameras and we have worked
with staff to this end.I think we are first in line for this $24,000 because we started
long ago with specific plans.
c.Tell RPV residents that building a skate or dog park in RPV is the Number 1 priority
in RPV and that all available monies will be spent for this purpose.
Please spend our money wisely on a tangible project that residents can see or use now.
Lynn Swank
RPV Resident
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ATTACHMENT F-24
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Carolynn Petru
From:mjcasaburi@aol.com
Sent:Tuesday,September 06,2011 1:39 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;carolynn@rpv.com;staff@rpv.com
SUbject:Dog &Skate Parks on Tonight's Agenda 9/6/11
Dear Council and City Staff,
I attended the recent meeting at Ladera Linda featuring City Manager Carolyn Lehr,and 2 of her Parks
and Recreation people,regarding Ladera Linda's future.The impression that I left with was that there
were no real plans for anything particular in Ladera Linda's future,but that both a skate park and/or a
dog park were really not appropriate uses of the land.
Both require accessibility ...Ladera Linda is rather remote from most of the RPV population.The idea of
driving a vehicle from far points of the peninsula solely to walk one's dog seems like an expensive (gas)
waste of time fQr the majority of RPV residents.People living nearby can already walk their dogs in and
around the area (and reportedly do a lousy job of cleaning up after their dogs!).There was discussion of
the very successful Dog Park in Redondo Beach (along 190th)...a location that thousands of people
pass several times a day &hundreds have easy walking access to (not just Redondo Beach residents).It
is always seems full of dogs.It is also located on sort of an island formed by streets on all four sides and
power lines overhead ...it does not encroach on wild lands,homes or a possible (if they would come
back)Montessori School.
As for a skate park ...again,it is much too remote a location.It is not near any kind of a gathering spot
for youngsters (who would use it the most).It was pointed out that most successful skate parks are
located in somewhat commercial areas (where kids congregate and can get drinks,etc),or near schools.
Most kids who would use a skate park are too young to drive ...the nearest intermediate school is
Miraleste which is approximately 5 miles away (up or down the SWitchbacks).And,as I pointed out,
Forrestal Dr.is much too tempting a ride for skateboarders ...and would absolutely be deadly sooner or
later.An example of a very well-run,popular skate park is that of Hermosa Beach,located just off Pier
Ave one block ocean ward of PCH.It is very centrally located,safe and well-staffed.
Thank you for your attention,
Mary Casaburi
3941 Palos Verdes Dr.So.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310544-6014
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-25
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:35 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Robert -Supports
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:28 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:
Robert lives in the Seaview neighborhood in RPV.He strong supports an off leash dog beach at this
location.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
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2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-26
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:36 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Bender-Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:29 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Bender
George Bender is an RPV resident.He is in favor of making the beach a dog beach;he takes his dogs.
He would like the city to make it easier to clean up after dogs by installing rule sign age,doggie bag
stations,and trash cans.He would like a place in RPV to let his dog run off-leash,legally.He shared that
Santa Monica may have rules requiring Pit Bulls to be muzzled.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-27
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:37 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Fraix -Against
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 9:36 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:FW:Daily Breeze Article response -dog beach
Ms.Louis Fraix called August 18,2011 in response to the Daily Breeze article.She is a long time
resident of RPV.She no longer goes to the beach,and feels she can no longer take her grand daughter
to the beach because of all the dogs running around.Owners do not bring bags with them to clean up
after their dogs.She doesn't like walking in the sand,knowing dog owners are not cleaning up after their
dogs.She would like RPV residents to have this very scenic beach available for RPV residents.She
notices a lot of people from other cities,including San Pedro coming to the beach now.She does not
support making this a dog beach.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-28
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:37 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Blindbury -Supports
On August 18,2011,in response to the Daily Breeze article,Cindy Blindbury,Los Serenos Docent called
in support of a dog beach at the beach below Trump National.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-29
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:37 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:J.Collich -Supports
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 9:41 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:calls RE Daily Breeze Article
On August 18,2011 John Collich called in response to the Daily Breeze article to let me know that his
wife previously send an email to Council in support of a dog beach at the beach below Trump Natlonal
Golf Course.He and his wife live in the Portuguese Bend Club,and take their dog to the beach.He is
also in favor of a dog beach at this location.He reported that many Bend members take their dogs to the
beach.He shared that most dog beach users stay closer to the Founders Park area,rather than the
Portuguese Bend Club area of the Beach.When I asked if he had an idea if neighbors in the Portuguese
Bend Club were generally supportive of the beach becoming a dog beach,he said that he couldn't speak
for them,but many of them do use the beach.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-30
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:38 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Kelley -Supports
From:Katie Howe [mailto:katieh@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 9:54 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:
Jan Kelley called August 18,2011 in response to the Daily Breeze article.She is an RPV resident and
supports maintaining the beach as an off leash dog beach.But she would like trash cans on the beach so
dog owners have a place to throw out their dog waste bags.She does not want it to merely become a
beach where you have to keep your dogs on leash.She supports an OFF LEASH dog leash.
,j
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-31
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:38 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Ashla -Supports
From:Reception [mailto:Reception@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:17 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:
Mary Ashla is ti)n RPV resident that is highly in favor of a dog beach on the Peninsula.She said she's
been going to city meetings about the issue but feels they aren't helping,so she decided to call in and
give her support.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-32
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:39 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject: Weber -Supports
From:Reception [mailto:Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 10:38 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:
1.Name:Barbara Weber
2.RPV retlident
3.Definitely In support of dog beach.She's never seen any problem.She says people without dogs
hardly even go down there because it's so hard to get to anyway .
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-33
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,
Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:42 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Bucher -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
1.Name:Laurie Bucher
2.RPV resident
3.In support of the dog beach.She believes that there should also be a dog park.She's the owner of
two Great Danes and it would be nice for them to be around other dogs to run around and
socialize.She says the dog park on 190th &Flagler is too far and one on the peninsula would be
much easier.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-34
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201110:59 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Sybilrud -Supports
RPV resident,Maryann Sybilrud called.She and her husband Jeff strongly support keeping this an off-
leash dog beach.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267 .
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-35
f
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 11 :01 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Codbold -Bite
RPV resident Liz Codbold called.She was bitten on the back by a dog off leash on the beach around
JUJ"!e 30.She received treatment from a Portuguese Bend Club lifeguard.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
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2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-36
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Peter Sun
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From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 11 :03 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Akbar -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
1.Name:Carol Akbar
2.Rolling Hills Estates resident
3.In support.She's used it plenty of times and keeps her dogs on the leash while roaming around
Trump,but when she reaches the beach,she loves being able to let her dogs off their leashes to
run around freely.Her two Chihuahuas love going there.She understands that those few who have
been attacked by aggressive dogs would be turned off by the idea of a dog park,but she believes
that it iS,still a great idea to keep it dog friendly.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-37
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f''.'
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 11 :04 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:StJohn -Supports
Mary StJohn,PVE resident is in favor of a dog beach at this location.She believes it is a necessity for
RPY.She thinks it would be fair to charge residents from other cities a fee to use the beach.
ij
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-38
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201111:17 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:lambrini -Supports
PVE resident,Ted Zambrini left a voicemail.He supports this beach as an off-leash dog beach.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-39
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f
Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 1:46 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Ferraro -Against
Name:Charles Ferraro
RPV Resident:Yes
Extra comments:I have taken my grandson down to that beach and he's been mulled over twice.If dogs
will be allowed down there they should be on a leash and their owners clean up after them.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-40
Peter Sun
-------,
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 1:57 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Sawelson -Support
Name:Jordan Sawelson
RPV Resident:No
Extra Comment:I would like it to remain dog friendly.I like it the way it is.I like to go down there and
watch the dogs having fun and playing around.I'm definitely a dog person.
'J 'J
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-41
Peter Sun
----_._--~.-
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,201112:35 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Luzan -Supports
Connie Luzan,RHE resident supports an off-leash dog beach at the beach.She would like pit bulls
excl.uded as she believes they are excluded at Venice Beach.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-42
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 12:42 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Booth -Against
Docent,Marcia Booth opposes a dog beach at this location because it interferes with Docent-led hikes to
the tide pools at the beach.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-43
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Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,20111:53 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Levine -Support
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Name:Lisa Levine
RPV Resident:No
Extra comments:I think it's a great place to have a place where dogs can run free.Everywhere else they
must be on a leash but there needs to be a place where they run around,it's great exercise for them.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-44
rage 1 or 1
Peter Sun
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From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 2:04 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Seraphim -Support
Name:Mercedes Seraphim
RPV Resident:Yes
Comments:I would like you to keep it as it is.It gives families the opportunities to walk together and see
dogs interacting together off the leash.I have never heard of anyone getting hurt or being bit.I think the
dog beach is wonderful thing to have here because it is for everybody.People have in my experience,
been so careful in picking up after their dogs.We will be so sad if it will be taken away.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-45
rage lor 1
Peter Sun
From:.Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 2:55 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Marmarelis -Support
Name:Gayleen Marmarelis
RPV Resident:Yes
Comment:I support the idea of having an off-leash dog beach at Trump because it's the only spot within
20 miles where dogs can play and be off the leash.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-46
t'age 1 or 1
Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 3:47 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Wishner -Supports
Name:Howard Wishner
RPV Resident:Yes
Comments:Supports dog beach.I've been going there for years and years and would encourage others
to have access.There is no where on the peninsula where dogs can go off the leash and for active dogs
that can go off the leash and play.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-47
rage 1 01 1
Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 3:49 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Money -Supports
Name:Susan Money
RPV Resident:Yes
Comments:Supports dog beach."Please keep it so the dogs can stay on the beach.We have been going
down there for many years.Everybody mandates each other so everyone is making sure there are no
dogs doing what they should not be doing.A trash can down there would be nice,but in my experience
we always carry up our dogs mess.Please just keep it open for the dogs."
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-48
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Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,20114:40 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Money (2)-Supports
Name:Evan Money
RPV Resident:Yes
Comments:Supports dog beach."I just think it's critically important to keep the dog park.There is never
an issue.It's remote enough and everyone respects it.It's what makes Rancho Palos Verdes great."
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-49
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Peter Sun ---_.__._-----_._---_..------_.
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 4:51 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Houston -Supports
Name:Jenny Houston
RPV Resident:No
Comments:Supports dog beach."I would like to keep the dog beach at Trump available as a dog beach
because there are no public dog areas where you can take the dogs off the leash."
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-50
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Peter Sun
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From:Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 6:46 PM
To:'Tom Odom';'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dogs on public beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Red
Thank you,
CCLfI"o0'vv Lw
City Manager
D City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
clehr@rpv.com •(310)544-5202
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you received this email in error,or are not an intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately.
Thank you for your assistance and cooperation.
From:Stcpro7827@aol.com [mallto:Stcpro7827@aol.com]
sent:ThUrsday,August 18,201111:02 AM
To:cc@rpv~Com
Subject:Dogs on public beach
We're delighted at the though of dogs on our public beach and we want the beach to
remain dog friendly.
Mr &Mrs.Jeff Sybilrud
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From:Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday.August 18.2011 6:27 PM
To:'Tom Odom';'Katie Howe'
SUbject:FW:Keep Dog Beach
Thank you,
carol::)'V\I Lihr
City Manager
o City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
clehr@rpv.com·(310)544-5202
This e-mail message contains information belonging to the City of Rancho Palos Verdes,which may be
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individual or entity named.Unauthorized dissemination,distribution,or copying is strictly prohibited.If
you received this email in error,or are not an intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately.
Thank you for your assistance and cooperation.
From:Polly Hackathorn [mailto:phackathom@hotmall.com]
sent:Thursday,August 18,20111:49 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Keep Dog Beach
Hi,
I would like to express my support in making the beach area below Trump golf course an off dog leash.
thank you,
Polly Hackathorn
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-52
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 29,2011 1:08 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Gladstone -Supports
Lisa Gladstone called.She supports an off-leash dog beach below Trump National.
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ATTACHMENT F-53
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Peter Sun
From:carolyn.lehr@att.blackberry.net
Sent:Monday,August 29,2011 3:22 PM
To:Tom Odom;Katie Howe
SUbject:Fw:Dog friendly areas
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From:"Lisa Gladstone"<lisa@coastalobesity.com>
Date:Mon,29 Aug 201113:24:03 -0700
To:<cc@rpv.com>;<parks@rpv.com>
Subject:Dog friendly areas
I'd like to voice my support for keeping the beach below Trump dog friendly.I'm
an RPV resident who has enjoyed leash free dog walking on the trails and beaches
for many years.The rural atmosphere is very important to me,my family and
friends.We used to ride our horses,dogs in tow,on the trails which is now Nature
Conservancy land.After supporting Nature Conservancy,we were quite upset to
learn that we'd be ticketed for our leash free dog walks!Now,to lose the Trump
Beach would be one step closer to losing the life style we all came here to enjoy.
Please keep me posted as to the date City Council will be hearing this issue.
Thank you,
Lisa Gladstone
18 Cinnamon Lane
Rancho Palos Verdes
310 977 0976.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-54
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Peter Sun
From:Pippa Davies [pdavies@kuboaa.com]
Sent:Monday,August 29,2011 2:12 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:The Beach at Trumps
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
I am writing in support of the use of Trump Golf Course beach for leash free dog walking.My
family and I have enjoyed over 25 years of walking our dogs on the beach and letting them swim
and play with other dogs there.It is the only place left in our area where we have that privelege
and to take that away would be devastating to us and many other people.Dogs need freedom to
run and interact with other dogs and the back yard is simply not enough to keep them happy,
healthy and ~ell-adjusted.Please dont take away their only playground left in RPV.
With respect
Pippa Davies
310-377-3985
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-55
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Jason Gregory [JG@JGBroker.com]
Tuesday,August 30,2011 2:18 PM
parks@rpv.com
cc@rpv.com
Dog Beach below Trump Golf Club
To Whom It May Concern:
I strongly support allowing dogs (off leash)to continue to enjoy this beautiful stretch
of beach in Rancho Palos Verdes.Although I live and work nearby I am not a resident of
Rancho Palos Verdes.I hope that the city council will consider my support regardless.It
is a wonderful asset that makes your city a better place!Thank you.
Sincerely,
Jason Gregory
553 N.Paciffc Coast Hwy.,Ste B-331
Redondo Beach,CA 90277
Cell:(323)363-5294
Email:JG@JGBroker.com
DRE License #01493602
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ATTACHMENT F-56
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Peter Sun
From:Hannah Jackson [hjackson@kuboaa.com]
Sent:Tuesday,August 30,2011 2:33 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Access to Beach Below Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Dear RPV Council,
I am emailing to express my support to keep the beach below Trump golf course open to leash
free dog walking.My family has lived in RPV for over 20 years,and it is very upsetting to me
that over the years this city has become less and less dog friendly.This is a beautiful area where
we and others enjoy being outdoors WITH our dogs and living a healthy active lifestyle.Bit by
bit freedoms that we have enjoyed with our dogs have been removed due to regulations imposed
by the city and other non-pet owners.
I urge you to think about the dog-owners side of this matter and understand that there are no
areas around here today (not that I can think of)where we can enjoy letting our pets experience a
little bit of freedom and interract with other dogs and play in the ocean.Is there not one little
spot of the coastline here that we can have access to enjoy with our dogs?There are so many
other cities (although none around here)that understand the joys and benefits to being pet
friendly.It's upsetting that the place where we love to live has become increasingly inflexible
and less tolerant of dogs,who also deserve some place to run and be free.It's natural and healthy
for them and it encourages us to keep a healthy and active lifestyle,which I think you will all
agree is important.For any of you on the council who are not dog owners,I'd like to explain to
you that giving a dog an opportunity to be free and play in the water is like watching children
running around with friends on a playground...or at the beach.It's a pleasure,a treat and a joy to
be able to give that to them.
Please please please don't take away the only area that we have left to experience the joy of
letting our dogs be free ....and where we can just let them enjoy being dogs.
Sincerely,
Hannah Jackson
310-200-2789
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-57
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 31,2011 7:40 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Longacre -Supports
Jane Longacre,RPV resident called to voice her support for an off-leash dog beach below Trump
National Golf Course.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-58
Page 1 of1
Peter Sun
From:Elisa Tarlow [elisaelisa@yahoo.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 31,2011 7:20 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Green
Dear City ofRPV,
I just heard that the city may shut down the dog friendly activities ofthis beach.
I grew up in Palos Verdes and when I was young we would take our dog everywhere without a
word,the cliffs,the beach,trails,etc.Now,there are very few places where dogs and their
families can enjoy themselves together.Everyone I have seen at the beach is friendly and
thoughtful.The area is not close to houses where it might disturb someone.Please do not take
away the dog friendly nature of this beach.
Thank you for your consideration,
Elisa Tarlow
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-59
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Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 01,2011 11 :11 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Brock -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Green
Gwen Brock is an RPV resident of 41 years and has been waiting for a dog park for years.She's very
unhappy that there is no place that is legal for her to take her service dogs to go play fetch.She feels that
there should be a place other than the beach as well,but at least the beach should to be open to dogs.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-60
Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,September 02,2011 11 :29 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Dogs on the Beach:SUPPORT
Hi Katie,
Sherry Unmack phoned to advise that she supports the dogs being able to run on the beach.She is a
resident of RPV.
I gave her email information as per the memo.
Thanks,
Rosemary
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-61
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,September 07,2011 8:06 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Gernacke -Supports
Evelyn Gernacke,PVE resident,called to express her support for an off-leash dog beach below Trump
National Golf Course.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-62
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,September 07,2011 8:07 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Hiburger -Supports
Paul Hiburger,RPV resident, called to express his support for an off-leash dog beach below Trump
National Golf Club.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-63
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,September 07,2011 4:56 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Bernstein -Supports
Cornelia Bernstein of the South Bay,called to voice her support for an offleash dog beach at the beach
below Trump National Golf Course.She has been going to the beach for a long time with her Golden
Retriever and it is a great source of exercise.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-64
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Peter Sun
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 08,2011 8:03 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Trump Dog Park
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From:ninarpv@aol.com [mailto:ninarpv@aol.com]
sent:Thursday,September 08,2011 5:09 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Trump Dog Park
Dear City Council,
I am writing to convince you to keep the beach at Trump a dog-friendly zone.I take my dog down
there all the time and it is her favorite place and mine.Whenever I go down there it is always clean.
People who know about the beach seem to respect it and clean up after their dogs.It is never too
crowded and a great place to socialize the animals.I'm afraid that I will be losing one of my most loved
places in Palos Verdes if you take this away. Please consider how important this place is for dogs and
their owners in the community.Thank you.
Sincerely,
Nina Pisano
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-65
Dog friendly areas
Peter Sun
Page 1 ofl
From:Blair Van Buren [BlairVB@afn-net.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 08,2011 3:35 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:Krishna Faia Van Buren
Subject:Dog friendly areas
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Green
There are so few dog-friendly beaches.Please let the beach below Ocean Trails I Trump National Golf
course,remain a dog-friendly beach.
In addition,Sacred Cove,which is quite secluded and relatively difficult to access for the public,should
remain dog-friendly as well.
Certain communities,like Ocean Beach in San Diego,have successfully managed and even promote and
market their dog-friendly beach areas with positive impacts to the residential and business interests
around,AS WELL AS for the pets and people.
Please do not take away this freedom and this benefit from RPV.
Sincerely,
Blair &Krishna Van Buren
34 Cinnamon Lane
RPV
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-66
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,September 13,2011 8:13 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Peter Sun'
SUbject:Stewart -Supports
Steve Stewart,Vice President of the track 16540 Portuguese Bend Club HOA called.Work:562-428-
7521.He offered help understanding the Portuguese Bend Club set up,and more.He and his wife are in
favor of a dog beach.He is a 40 year resident.They live at 4164 Maritime Road.His HOA is seemingly
supportive of a dog beach,but a formal letter from the HOA will follow with their stance.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-67
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Peter Sun
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 22,2011 8:21 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:FW:Dog Beach -Trump Golf Course
From:terrylfred [mailto:terrylfred@cox.net]
sent:Wednesday,September 21,201111:23 PM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach -Trump Golf Course
Dear Council Members,
I am writing to you in regards to making the beach area below Trump Golf Course a legal,off-leash dog
beach.It is important for dogs to have areas where they can be leash free.This makes dogs less
aggressive when they can get release their energy by having the freedom to run.I would also like to see
a nice dog park with separate areas for large and small dogs located in RPV.
I thank you very much for taking these requests this into serious consideration (my Brittany Spaniel
thanks you too).
Sincerely,
Terry Fredrickson
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-68
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Peter Sun
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From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,September 23,2011 7:55 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Trump (Dog)Beach
From:deborahfrane [mailto:deborahfrane@verizon.net]
Sent:Friday,September 23,2011 2:14 AM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:Trump (Dog)Beach
As a dog owner it's infuriating that I can let my dog run in the surf or along the beach.It would be great
to have a local'place that Dogs can run and just be dogs.I hope you will continue to allow dog owners
who respect the area to use the beach.
Deborah Frane
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-69
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Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,September 30,2011 1:22 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Dogs Running on the Beachl Support
Hi Katie,
I received a call in support of the dogs running on the beach issue from Craig Pearce.He is a resident of
San Pedro and believes that anyone who is not in support of the beach issue,is just being "mean"!
Have a good day!
Rosemary
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-70
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From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,October 03,2011 5:26 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Dog Park
Lady called saying she saw a dog almost bite a small childs face.
She is very much against the dog park.
Chris
2/6/2012
ATTACHMENT F-71
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Hi Katie,
Lynn Doran [Iynnsky@earthlink.net]
Tuesday,December 20,2011 4:08 PM
katieh@rpv.com
Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
We met at the Portuguese Bend Club a few months back,at a meeting about dog beach.
Just checking in to see how your research for dog beach is coming along.
Thank you so much for coming to talk with us.I hope you have come up with positive
information.
Sincerely,
Lynn Doran
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ATTACHMENT F-72
Katie Howe
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,September 07,2011 4:56 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Bernstein -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Cornelia Bernstein of the South Bay,called to voice her support for an offJeash dog beach at the beach
below Trump.National Golf Course.She has been going to the beach for a long time with her Golden
Retriever and it is a great source of exercise.
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-73
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
carolyn.lehr@att.blackberry.net
Monday,August 29,2011 2:26 PM
Tom Odom;Katie Howe
Fw:Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From:Lynn Doran <lynnsky@earthlink.net>
Date:Mon,29 Aug 2011 12:56:13
To:<cc@rpv.com>
Cc:<katieh@rpv.com>i David Gakenheimer<dgakenheimer@gmail.com>
Subject:Dog Beach
To whom it may concern,
I am writing in regards to the "unofficial dog beach"that we have enjoyed for years.
Many happy dogs and owners have enjoyed this beach for years.It is a long trek down to
the beach,and once you get there it is not a nice,white sand,flat beach.You have to
want to be there and play with your dog.It's different from a dog park where people just
turn there dog loose and go talk on the~r cell phones.People come to the beach to
interact with their dogs.The labradors especially like to swim way out in the surf to
retrieve balls.My Australian Shepherd now goes in the water after playing with all the
labradors.This is not a person swimming beach,too much kelp and too many rocks with a
shore break.It doesn't bother the dogs .....they love it!
I hope there is some way to keep this a dog beach.We need a place for dogs to run and
have fun.Burn off energy.We all need that.
We have been exploring other dog beaches in S.Cal.
There are a couple really nice ones,actually very nice,white sand,no rocks and easy
access.
Del Mar is one.There is a full description of their rules and regulations on their city
website.
Huntington Beach is another.Their dog beach is listed on their website but not in much
detail.There._is a better description on the www.dogbeach.org website.They even have
special surf events for dogs.The dogs are to be on leash on the dry sand but allowed off
leash on the wet sand and in the water.
I hope this is helpful.We really don't want to loose the one place we have to run and
play with our dogs.
Sincerely,
Lynn Doran
Resident of the PBC
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ATTACHMENT F-74
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Lynn Doran pynnsky@earthlink.net]
Monday,August 29,2011 12:56 PM
cc@rpv.com
katieh@rpv.com;David Gakenheimer
Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
To whom it may concern,
I am writing in regards to the "unofficial dog beach"that we have enjoyed for years.
Many happy dogs and owners have enjoyed this beach for years.It is a long trek down to
the beach,and once you get there it is not a nice,white sand,flat beach.You have to
want to be there and play with your dog.It's different from a dog park where people just
turn there dog loose and go talk on their cell phones.People come to the beach to
interact with their dogs.The labradors especially like to swim way out in the surf to
retrieve balls.My Australian Shepherd now goes in the water after playing wlth all the
labradors.This is not a person swimming beach,too much kelp and too many rocks with a
shore break.It doesn't bother the dogs .....they love it!
I hope there is some way to keep this a dog beach.We need a place for dogs to run and
have fun.Burn off energy.We all need that.
We have been exploring other dog beaches in S.Cal.
There are a couple really nice ones,actually very nice,white sand,no rocks and easy
access.
Del Mar is one.There is a full description of their rules and regulations on their city
website.
Huntington Beach is another.Their dog beach is listed on their website but not in much
detail.There is a better description on the www.dogbeach.org website.They even have
special surf events for dogs.The dogs are to be on leash on the dry sand but allowed off
leash on the wet sand and in the water.
I hope this is helpful.We really don't want to loose the one place we have to run and
play with our dogs.
Sincerely,
Lynn Doran
Resident of the PBC
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ATTACHMENT F-75
Katie Howe f''.'
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:48 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Pizano-Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Teresa Pizano,RPV resident called to voice her support an off-leash dog beach below Trump National.
She has been taking her dog here for 4 years.She thinks it's a great asset to have a dog beach so close,
and she has never had a bad incident at the beach.She tends to visit the beach about 3 times each
week and rarely sees families there.She believes fewer families visit the beach because of the difficult
access.If visitors are complaining about a smell at the beach,they may be smelling seaweed,and not
dog waste,because her experience is that about 90%of visitors with dogs clean up after their pets,and
she,among other visitors with pets,will clean up after others who do not because they value having the
dog beach.
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-76
Katie Howe
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 10:35 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:FW:Dog beach at Trump
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:Dana Dorsett [mailto:dm@danamoon.com]
sent:Friday,August 19,201110:34 AM
To:carlam@rpv.com
Subject:Fwd:Dog beach at Trump
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From:Dana Dorsett <dm@danamoon.com>
Date:August 19,201110:31:04 AM PDT
To:"cc@mv.com"<cc@mv.com>
Subject:Dog beach at Trump
I am writing to inform you that unleashed dogs of aggressive breeds are causing me
to stop taking my grandchildren to the beaches and hiking trails accessing the beach
at Trump.We live in Seaview across from the golf course and have enjoyed hiking
those trails for decades.But the dog population has increased on the trails and at the
beach and the owners of the unleashed dogs are not nearby often when they
aggressively approach little children.
My husband spoke with a LA County lifeguard on the beach about the recentrapid
increase of unleashed dogs and the guard informed my husband Jeff that the Internet
identifies the beach as a dog beach and is drawing many dogs and owners from as
far as Pasadena with their unleashed dogs,
Please make sure the dogs are leashed on the trails and prohibited all together on the
beach so that the rest of us can again enjoy the trails and the beach.
Thank you for your attention.
Dana Dorsett
Sent from my iPad
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-77
Katie Howe r
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From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 9:53 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:J.Stjohn -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
John Stjohn,RPV resident,called to voice his support for making the beach below Trump National an off-
leash dog beach.
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-78
Peter Sun
From:Chris Del Moro [collectic@gmail.com]
Sent:Monday,January 02,20123:15 PM
To:Katie Howe
SUbject:Re:Dog Beach Listserv
Thank.you Katie,appreciate the time and attention.Just came across the informatiQn regarding
the proposed zone.Considering many of us have not been switched on to this information,I trust
many will be want there opinion heard one way or another.
All the best
Chris
On Mon,Jan 2,2012 at 3:03 PM,Katie Howe <katieh@mv.com>wrote:
Hello Chris,
Thank you again for the call today.Below is a link to the project Iistserv.By joining the listserv group
(Which is the sixth from the bottom)you'll be sent updates on the project including the specific date the
issue will be considered by City Council.Please feel free to call with any additional questions.
htto:/lrpvalert.coml
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
Chris Del Moro
Work-31O 5~466
www.collecticlife.com
collecticlife.blogspot.com
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-79
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Peter Sun
From:Chris Del Moro [collectic@gmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,January 25,201210:54 AM
To:Katie Howe
Subject:Re:Dog Beach Listserv
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear Katie,love to know when the next time there will be a meeting regarding the dog beach,
where local community can speak on behalf of the
environmental impact this has on all the local species as well as community members.
According-to R.P.V municipal code 6.20.010 -all dogs must be on a 6 ft leash according to-
Not understanding how this has gone on for so long.
Thank:you for your time.
Chris
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-80
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Peter Sun
Chris Del Moro [collectic@gmail.com]
Monday,January 30,2012 2:35 PM
Anthony.Misetich@rpv.com
Dear City Council -Please read -Environmental and safety issues regarding proposed RP.V
dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Attachments:Con's to dog beach.docx;wildlife Effected.docx;Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.31.04 PM.png;
Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.32.19 PM.png;Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.32.31 PM.png;
Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.33.04 PM.png;Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.33.37 PM.png;
Screen shot 2012-01-30 at 12.32.55 PM.png;IMG_1844.JPG
Dear RP.V Mayor,Parks Division and city council members,I'd like to start off this email
by explaining.howbad the illegal dog beach has become,last Sunday morning I came across a
dead dog,just feet off the southern trail from the proposed dog beach.
This allowed for a great experiment in monitoring how responsible the dog beach visitors truly
are?One week later the carcase was now riddled with fly's,open wounds and all the while still
just feet off the access trail (all of which documented through out the week),Sunday 1/29/12,
the dog park housed yet another few hundred people and just as many dogs.Ironically the same
area still has remnants of the diseased sea lion carcase that has taken the life of multiple dogs
visiting the beach.All of this happening just feet away are non residents handing out flyer's to
make this a dog beach,as well as family's and children playing.Enough was enough,I called
animal control to have the poor little creature taken care of.(photos attached)
Currently we are seeing numbers rise on a daily basis.We are in the heart of the winter and
conditions continue to get worse,beach trash is growing,poop bags now riddle all parts of the
land preserve,the hand made signs we have placed to combat marine debris are now used as
poop bag collection stations,the limited trash cans are filled to the brim with animal feces,the
stench is putrid.What will spring/summer be like.Everyone's safety is compromised,native
animals/plants (some of which as endangered)are losing their habitat and being harassed.All
the while there is no one regulating any rules.Let us not forget this is an illegal dog beach that is
out of control.Just because some days are empty does not replace the days that see hundreds of
dogs and visitors.
Please read over the information provided and look at photos attached.The sooner we put a
stop to the potential of someone drowning,the spread of disease,a child being viciously attacked
or any more endangered species losing habitat the better for the community.
Thanks for your consideration and time.
Sincerely,Christopher Del Moro
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-81
Page lot 1
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 12,2012 11 :21 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:E.Chittick Concern
Elizabeth Chittick called January 11,2012 to report that while she thinks people shou,ld be able to take
their dogs onto Rancho Palos Verdes Beach,groups have been coming to the private Portuguese Bend
Beach early in the morning,and staying until 7pm and later,and she feels this is an abuse of the
priviledge.She noticed that it is happening more and more recently.She also would like for owners to be
more responsible cleaning up after their pets on the beach.Her phone number is :
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-82
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Monday,January 16,2012 9:00 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:David Meffert [mailto:meffdesign@mac.com]
Sent:Friday,January 13,2012 5:49 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
This test dog peach is a complete failure.
Its time to either post regulation or guards to make sure something bad doesn't happen.
I believe it would be the city of RPV that is responsible for damages.
Don't fail your city or it residence.
Fix this problem.
David Meffert
Sea View Estates
i 1
ATTACHMENT F-83
f
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Monday,January 16,2012 9:00 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:David Meffert [mailto:meffdesign@mac.com]
Sent:Friday,January 13,2012 5:49 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
This test dog peach is a complete failure.
Its time to either post regulation or guards to make sure something bad doesn't happen.
I believe it would be the city of RPV that is responsible for damages.
Don't fail your city or it residence.
Fix this problem.
David Meffert
Sea View Estates
1
ATTACHMENT F-84
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Thursday,February 09,2012 2:12 PM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach (8)
Follow up
Red
-----Original Message-----
From:Carolynn Petru [mailto:carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,January 16,2012 9:00 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach
-----Original Message-----
From:David Meffert [mailto:meffdesign@mac.com]
Sent:Friday,January 13,2012 5:49 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
This test dog beach is a complete failure.
Its time to either post regulation or guards to make sure something bad
doesn't happen.
I believe it would be the city of RPV that is responsible for damages.
Don't fail your city or it residence.
Fix this problem.
David Meffert
Sea View Estates
1 ATTACHMENT F-85
f.
'.'
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Tuesday,January 17,20127:39 AM
'Katie Howe'
'Tracy Bonano'
FW:Save PBC/Ocean trails Beach
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:marklitman1@cox.net [mailto:marklitman1@cox.net]
Sent:Monday,January 16,2012 11:16 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Save PBCjOcean trails Beach
To council members,Please do not allow Ocean Trails Beach to become a dog beach.It will
no longer be safe for Children,native environment or gogs and beach goers.-It will have a
heavy impact on local enviornment.Which includes tide pools,native animals,plants and
hill sides.There is a huge concern for health issues and possible spread of disease!!
It is NOT LEGAL ..AII dogs must be on leash's ..L.A.County prohibits dogs on any beach.
Ocean Trails beach has no lifeguard,no trash cans,no regulations,no bathrooms,no
signage and no emergency access,which can cause drowning,human and dog feces and
desease.
A NO DOG BEACH will make a SAFE ENJOYABLE PLACE FOR RESIDENTS,VISITORS AND LOCAL
ENVIORNMENT.
PLEASE SAVE THIS SLICE OF PARADISE I!!!!
Sincerely,Mark Litman
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ATTACHMENT F-86
f.
'"
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Tuesday,January 17,20127:39 AM
'Katie Howe'
'Tracy Bonano'
FW:Save PBC/Ocean trails Beach
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:marklitman1@cox.net [mailto:marklitman1@cox.net]
Sent:Monday,January 16,2012 11:16 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Save PBC/Ocean trails Beach
To council members,Please do not allow Ocean Trails Beach to become a dog beach.It will
no longer be safe for Children,native environment or gogs and beach goers.-It will have a
heavy impact on local enviornment.Which includes tide pools,native animals,plants and
hill sides.There is a huge concern for health issues and possible spread of disease!!
It is NOT LEGAL ..AII dogs must be on leash's ..L.A.County prohibits dogs on any beach.
Ocean Trails beach has no lifeguard,no trash cans,no regulations,no bathrooms,no
signage and no emergency access,which can cause drowning,human and dog feces and
desease.
A NO DOG BEACH will make a SAFE ENJOYABLE PLACE FOR RESIDENTS,VISITORS AND LOCAL
ENVIORNMENT.
PLEASE SAVE THIS SLICE OF PARADISE !l!!!
Sincerely,Mark Litman
1
ATTACHMENT F-87
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Kristine Kronheim [xkristinezx@hotmail.com]
Thursday,January 19,2012 10:50 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog beach
Follow up
Yellow
I am writig this email in support of the dog beach that RPV is considering.I take my dog
down to the area about once a week and it is a great area for the dogs to play and run
around.The dog owners that go down there are very responsable and clean up after their
dogs.As a dog owner it is difficult to find areas to take dogs since alot of them are
getting taken away.On behalf of me and my dog we support you in making this area a dog
beach.If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
Kristine Kronheim
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ATTACHMENT F-88
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Peter Sun
From:blondefro1@aol.com
Sent:Friday,January 20,2012 1:56 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:DOG BEACH in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
It would be wonderful to have RPV Beach become a
dog beach,as long as people "clean up"after their
dogs,as they are "supposed"to do on the streets of
the peninsula,as well as on walking paths
(Oceanfront).This does not always happen.
As the owner of 2 large dogs,I would love to have a
beach to take my dogs to that is not a distance away.
RPV Beach would certainly be a wonderful location to
enjoy with our best friends.
Thank you for considering this terrific ideal
Cindy Tobis
Palos Verdes Estates
blondefro1 @aol.com
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-89
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Peter Sun
From:Varners [Ivseacliff@cox.net]
Sent:Friday,January 20,20125:16 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:YES!Dogs should be allowed on the beach below Trump Golf Course --without leashes!
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
RPV Parks,
This is my endorsement for ALWAYS allowing unleashed dogs on the beach,at the beach below Trump
Golf Course.
Thank you.
Dr.Linda L.Varner
32503 Seacliff Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275-6160
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-90
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Gabrielle [gabriellexxxxx@gmail.com]
Saturday,January 21,2012 9:24 AM
parks@rpv.com
Vote for dog beach
Follow up
Yellow
Not a dog owner but went to dog beach in bay area with friends and think it is a great
idea.Several years ago had ended up at the area in consideration and think it works very
well
Sent from my iPad
gabrielle
edgeofneverpoetry.com
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ATTACHMENT F-91
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Peter Sun
From:longbeachgreg@hotmail.com
Sent:Saturday,January 21,2012 9:55 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach =YES!!
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hello,my name is Gregory Peralta and my residence is Wilmington.A dogbeach would be a
positive addition to the community.Having rescued a chiweenie a year ago,I have seen how an
off leash dog park/beach can be very therapeutic to dogs with issues,(anxiety,fear,or
aggression).And for those raising young dogs,a dog beach would be extremely helpful in
avoiding "issues"altogether.Dogs left alone all day will have a place to let out pent up energy,
reducing the chance of a bite out of frustration.Not only do the dogs get a chance to socialize,
but so do the'people.Neighbors meet,perhaps for the first time,strengthening community
bonds.A dogbeach may also be a potential source ofrevenew for the city and local business,in
parking fees and those looking for "a bite to eat".Dont let fear of a dogfight at the beach make
you cast a "NO"vote.Just as kids in the schoolyard get into fights,there will be the occasional
"spat"between dogs.However,most owners that take the time to go to the dogbeach have taken
the time to train and understand their dogs.In conclusion,the pros to adding an off leash
dogbeach to the community far out weigh the cons.Dogbeach=YESl
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprintl
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-92
Page 1 ofl
Peter Sun
From:Jeffrey Dorsett Dedorsett@gmail.com]
Sent:Saturday,January 21,2012 11 :24 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach Project
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear RPV Administrators:
I write in response to your recent trail head postings above "Dog Beach."My name is Jeff
Dorsett.My wife,Dana,and I live in Seaview at 4032 Exultant Dr.With the development of
Ocean Trails and subsequently
Trump,we expected people from outside the neighborhood to discover this gem of a beach.We
looked forward to development bringing order to what had been essentially an uncontrolled area
close to a large city.We welcome the people and their leashed dogs,but we are very unhappy
about the unleashed dogs.
There are a lot of dogs.Ninety five percent ofthe dogs are off leash in violation of statute.Many
of them are the aggressive breeds that are so popular nowadays.The ones that you occasionally
read about in the newspaper because they have killed or maimed an innocent.And often dogs
that are not particularly dangerous breeds often become dangerous because their owners
thoughtlessly let them run free in packs.
Within the last two years the beach has become exceedingly popular with dog owners,such that
the public parking at Trump is now full on weekends by mid-morning,probably because of
various blogs publishing that it is a leash free secret "dog beach."Dog owners generally let their
dogs off leash at the top of the trail,forcing people going the other way to pass uncomfortably
close their dogs,often dogs bred for guarding or fighting.Because I run for fitness in the soft
sand,and this is the only soft sand beach in the city,I usually visit the beach two or three times a
week In addition,until a year ago,Dana used to walk alone on the beach about once a week and
we used to bring our small grandchildren to the beach occasionally.
It is now rare that I can go for a run without having to stop running to avoid risking getting bit by
a dog or dogs that has/have become aggressive because I was running.I then have to wait for the
dog owner to catch up to and control their dog or dog pack.In addition,after several times
having large dogs run up on our small grandchildren,we no longer bring them to the beach.
Dana no longer walks on the beach alone for fear ofunleashed dogs.Dana emailed the city with
these concerns shortly after Trump deeded the beach to the city,but no enforcement ofleash
laws resulted.To the contrary,we are now informed that the city is considering legitimizing that
which she complained about.
Please consider accommodating dog owners on some of the other abundant city real estate.
Rather than establishing a leash free area here adjacent Trump,effectively denying our family
usage ofthis unique and beautiful beach,we respectfully request that you enforce the existing
leash laws.
Sincerely,
Jeff Dorsett
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-93
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Peter Sun
From:Laurie Young [Iauriemcyoung@gmail.com]
Sent:Saturday,January 21,20125:07 PM
To:Parks@rpv.com
Subject:Proposed Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
January 21,2012
To Whom it May Concern:
I am writing this letter because I am against turning part of the beach just
south of PQrtuguese Bend in Rancho Palos Verdes into a legal dog beach.I
love dogs and my family has two that we rescued from the animal shelter in
my hometown of San Pedro.However,a few people ruin it for the rest of us.
Please read on.
I feel it's not safe,or fair for that matter,that people who can't control their
pets off leash,are allowed to bring them here,especially on nice days when
others want to enjoy the beach as well.I have been hiking/running here for
more than 25 years.Since Donald Trump improved the trails,and especially
since this last summer,I have noticed how many adventurous people such as
myself,also come down to this beach.I see families enjoying their lunch or
perhaps just a snack down here on a nice day.I see mature adults getting out
and exercising.Awesome!But it worries me.It worries me that a not-so-well
behaved dog would become aggressive if a child picnicking with her parents
has,say,a sandwich in her hand.I'm pretty sure regulated dog
beaches/parks don't allow food.This IS a problem because these things DO
happen ~JI the time.I actually have a friend who was bitten while she was
with her kids down here.I have another friend who was knocked over by a
large,wet,off-leash dog who collided with her when the dog darted across
the trail from out of the bushes.
For the reasons stated above,I am against designating the beach below
Trump National Golf Course a legal dog beach.Perhaps we can find another
spot that would be better?I continue to work on training my rescue dogs and
would love to take them.
Sincerely,
Laurie Young
1777 W.27th St.
San Pedro,CA 90732
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-94
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Norman Hill [nhill54321@aol.com]
Sunday,January 22,201210:05 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach
Follow up
Yellow
Yes on Dog Beach,RPV needs a beach where dogs can run and get excercise
Thanx for looking at this need
Norm Hill
28203 Seamount Dr
RPV
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ATTACHMENT F-95
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
James Mckinnell [dr_phatcity@yahoo.com]
Sunday,January 22,2012 10:21 AM
parks@rpv.com
gerti.lacek@hotmail.com;Lindsay Sellers;Christine Dauphine
Dog beach Project Manager
Follow up
Yellow
I understand that the dog beach by trump course is under review by city council.I would
like to support the continuation of the dog beach.
James McKinnel1
Hermosa beach,ca
The dog beach by trump golf course is a tremendous resource for the people of the area.
Please maintai~it.
I would comment that it probably shouldn't be publicized.We probably don't want people
from allover la coming to use the beach.
I would suggest maintaining the status quo and not officially recognizing off leash use.
Good luck.
-Jamie
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ATTACHMENT F-96
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Peter Sun
From:Christine Dauphine [christinedauphine@yahoo.com]
Sent:Sunday,January 22,20122:35 PM
To:CC@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach near Trump golf course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
We have been told that the dog beach by trump national golf course is under review by the city
council.We would like to support the continuation of the dog beach as an off-leash activity.
The beach is very rocky and not ideal for sunbathers anyway.The dogs very much enjoy being
able to get into the water and run around through the waves.We have been many times and have
been very appreciative that such a place exists.Please strongly consider maintaining the current
status.. .
Christine and Sellers Stough
Redondo Beach,CA
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-97
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Peter Sun
From:groatdds@aol.com
Sent:Sunday,January 22,2012 11 :20 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog park (beach)
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hi,
As per your posted request near Trump National,I am writing to encourage the city of Rancho Palos
Verdes to allow dog (off leash)access on the beach below Trump National.I am a dog owner and have
been an RPV resident (in Seaview)since 1987.As a dog owner,creating a designated dog beach would
be another wonderful feature to living in this beautiful community.As you already know,that area is
presently very popular with dog owners (especially on weekends and holidays).Formally designating it a
dog beach,would eliminate the need to police the area.I know dog parks (and beaches,e.g.Huntington
Beach,Long Beach)have been in place in many communities for a number of years and I am sure the
formula they have used to satisfy the recreational needs of dog owners and other users could be copied
here in RPV.Perhaps,it could be established on a conditional or temporary basis allowing for a review of
the situation after a certain length of time (3-6 months).
I hope this will come to fruition.
Sincerely,
Geoff Groat
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-98
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Peter Sun
From:Johnnyid@aol.com
Sent:Monday,January 23,201212:45 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Re:Dogs at Trump
Dear RPV:
I enthusiastically and wholeheartedly support dogs being allowed at the beach at Trump in RPV.In fact,
the establishment of dog park on the beach below the cliffs is a tremendous idea and only benefit the
community as a whole.
Please count me on the side of those who are dog-lovers and would love to see a park for dogs at
Trump!
Best,
John Hays
211 Yacht Club Way
Redondo Beach,CA
johnnyid@aol.com
310.850.6851
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-99
Peter Sun
From:Chamberlain,John [John.Chamberlain@morganstanleysmithbarney.com]
Sent:Monday,January 23,2012 1:48 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Cc:Caroline Chamberlain;Elizabeth Chamberlain
Subject:Trumps Beach/Dog retreat
F~lIow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
I'm hearing rumors about banning dog's from Trump's beach This not only is unfair (there are plenty of
beaches available throughout the South Bay for humans only Dog owners pay taxes too!...This beach
has been dog friendly for years now and as such is part of the community culture ...1utilize the beach at
least ten times a year and find it a wonderful "escape"from the daily routine-and I know my dog loves it
too!!lPlease do not succumb to fear and leave the beach for all the community to enjoy ...Remember:
having a pet will extend your life for 5 years!
John R.Cliamberlain
Senior Vice President
Wealth Advisor
The Chamberlain Schlappatha Group
Morgan Stanley Smith Barney
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ATTACHMENT F-100
Peter Sun
From:
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Caroline Chamberlain [carolinewchamberlain@gmail.com]
Monday,January 23,2012 3:06 PM
parks@rpv.com
Rancho Palos Verdes (Trump beach)
Follow up
Yellow
To whom this may concern:
I am a student right now studying abroad in Berlin,and I found out that the issue of
allowing dogs on Rancho Palos Verdes Beach is being discussed.Finding this out while
being away was really heartbreaking,because going on walks with my family and dogs on
this beach is one of my favorite activities to do while at home.Please do not hastily
ban something that is enjoyed by so many people who take care to clean up after their
dogs.Please consider in the meantime putting up signs warning of the consequences for
the community.~f people do not clean up after their dogs.This beach is a gem of the
south bay community,not only because it is beautiful,but also because of how it's one of
the few beaches where one is allowed to take their dogs.It's a great place for dogs to
socialize,get exercise,and for families to do the same.There are plenty of beaches in
the area where one could go without having to worry about dogs being off leash or being
out in general.
Thank you for your time,
Caroline Chamberlain
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ATTACHMENT F-101
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Peter Sun
From:Robert Kalmey [kalmeyfamily@cox.net]
Sent:Monday,January 23,2012 6:24 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:b.camp@cox.net
Subject:YES on Dog Beach in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear RPV City Council and any other city staff who receive this email:
PLEASE LEAVE OUR CLIFFSIDE BEACH BelOW THE GOLF COURSE ALONE FOR DOG OWNERS TO
WALK THEIR DOGS THERE AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR LITERAllY 50 YEARS.PLEASE DO
NOT ENACT ANY KIND OF ANTI-DOG ORDINANCE FOR THIS REMOTE CLIFFSIDE BEACH AREA.
This beach below the Trump golf course is NOT a Southern CA sunning or bathing beach,as you
know.It is not a swimming beach.Almost no one even dares to surf there with all the
submerged rocks and crazy currents.As you know,it is a remote,tiny,and little-known beach
mainly accessed by local RPV residents who like to have a nice place to walk their dogs and let
them playa little.
Most of the people who frequent that beach are dog owners with their dogs right there,and we
love the other dogs who run around off the leash down by the water there.We greet the other
dogs and we pet them and play with them.Hardly a hazardous situation.Never once have my
kids even felt the slightest bit threatened by any other dog there.
We have lived here since 2003 and plan to live here the rest of our lives.It costs me a fortune
to live here.I don't appreciate this part of our lives here being threatened because the City is
afraid of a lawsuit.Post a sign that it's a Dog Beach and that if you are concerned about being
around dogs,you are free to go elsewhere.Just because a dog bit someone sometime -you
know,that-is life folks.Legislating life is a bad proposition.
Please leave dog-owner residents at this beach alone.Please do not enact any kind of anti-dog
(which would be in effect an anti-resident)ordinance as pertains to this beach location.
Thank you.
Robert Kalmey
4263 Admirable Drive
RPV
cell (626)991-1811
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-102
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Peter Sun
From:joeldime@aol.com
Sent:Monday,January 23,20127:48 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com;joeldime@aol.com
Subject:Fwd:from Joel Dime PBC resident
----Original Message----
From:joeldime <joeldime@aol.com>
To:katieh <katieh@rpv.com>;JoelDime <JoeIDime@aol.com>
Sent:Tue,Jan 17,2012 12:54 am
SUbject:from Joel Dime PBC resident
I am a resident.of the PBC beach club.I am aware that a dog beach next to our property at
Portuguese Bend Beach Club.I don't believe this is a wise idea.Unless you will have security policing
the facility,you for sure will have pet owners
walking their dogs with many off their leashes,which is illegal.This is a problem and they will not follow
the boundary line and will be trespassing with their dogs on our property as has been happening.We
have signs and they either
don't see or ignore the signs.I have seen more recently much feces on the proposed property and
Portuguese Bend Beach property.Obviously owners not picking up after their dogs.There are many
children at this area and feel sure with dogs not on their leash adults and children will be injured.A dog
area needs to be enclosed and at
that point dogs can be taken off the leash and when leaving the dog facility put on a leash.Why would
any authority in their right mind want to designate a beach for dogs when we need safeland clean areas
for our families to enjoy.At Portuguese Bend Beach club we have many beach members over the years
and never have I seem feces or heard
witness problems.
of a dog biting or barking.The main reason,we don't allow dogs in our beach area. I don't want to go to
the beach and deal with irate dog owners.We know that dogs are a very delicate subject for pet owners
and don't want to deal with any ignorant,possessive,and aggressive dog owners.Why don't they open
their back yards for me to take my dog?Why would anyone who has respect for people ever want to
open a can of worms such as this when there is no need for such access?You politicians really should
ask yourselves is this responsible for me to serve this way.If you open this beach to pets,I hope the city
is ready to pay money for potential problems.For sure you will have problems and cause people to not
enjoy this area as the have.
thank you
Joel Dime
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-103
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Peter Sun
From:Dennis Martinez [dmartinez1899@gmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,2012 1:35 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Palos Verdes Beach
F~lIow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hello,
My name is Dennis O.Martinez and I'm from South Central Los Angeles.I saw a post this
Sunday when I went to the beach with my two cousins and three dogs.I really do hope the shore
remains off~leash.For one,there are few places that even allow it.There are a few dog parks in
the city but for the most part,they just seem like large cages.I have been to Huntington Dog
Beach in Orange County and it's ok.Much too crowded and at least my dogs don't seem as
comfortable.(Also far from me;about an hour or so)I didn't realize this until I started taking
them maybe a month ago to RPV and have made been making it a routine for Sundays ever
since.They run around like crazy up and down the shore.And have more than a few pics and
even video if anyone would care to see.
I actually found this place by accident as I was just looking for a place to hike.I turned into the
street and noticed many people so I followed along.Then I noticed a few dogs and the little
secret "Dog Beach"below.People are very respectful and clean up after their pets.It's a great
environment and I hope it continues to be so for all of us.Humans and dogs alike.We need
places like this because there are very few of them.Thanks.
VIR,
Dennis
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-104
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
twt4ever1966@cox.net
Tuesday,January 24,2012 8:41 PM
CC@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com;nbarber310@cox.net
Dog Park....
Follow up
Yellow
To Whom It May Concern:
I'm writing in response to the consideration of making the beach below Trumps a public
dog beach/park.As a resident and dog owner I see the pros and cons of such an idea.The
biggest con to the idea is the increased traffic making this area "public"will bring.
Dog owners are always looking for plcs to take their pets.It would make a presently
secluded area for local residents,which is peaceful and calm a possible trip destination
for "everyone".
This all being'said,it is my op~n~on that we should leave the situation as is;an area
locals know about and can abid by self rule.The traffic,the parking situation making
this area a publicly designated dog beach/park will only create mayhem especially on a
street where lack of traffic signals and speeding is already a concern.
Sincerely,
Donna L.Wong-Seaview
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ATTACHMENT F-105
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Peter Sun
From:Stuart Shaffer [stuart-shaffer@att.net]
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,20128:44 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
I think it would be a great idea to have a dog park below Trump Golf Course.As with all dog
parks,owners would be completely responsible for cleaning up after their dog.
Stuart Shaffer
410S Admirable Drive
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-106
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
matt garland [mattg1975@live.com]
Tuesday,January 24,20121 :18 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dogs at rpv beach
Follow up
Yellow
My name is Matthew Garland.I am writing to oppose an off leash dog park at rpv beach.I
have been a beach user for about 25 years.In the last few years the off leash dogs
running on the beach have become a nuisance.My son is 4 years old and has been knocked
down and traumatized by loose dogs while trying to enjoy the beach.Rpv beach is unique in
its location and wilderness.It is my opinion that dogs should be required to remain on a
leash so that the beach is available to be enjoyed by everybody.Thank you for your
consideration
Sent from my ~~hone
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ATTACHMENT F-107
Katie Howe
From:wegolfers [wegolfers@hotmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,2012 10:22 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Jean Junyszek
14 Perigee Cir
San Pedro,CA 90732
Owner of 2 Labradors that love to swim
Yes for access to the beach
Jean
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-108
Katie Howe
From:joeldime@aol.com
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,2012 6:04 AM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com;joeldime@aol.com
Subject:Fwd:from Joel Dime PBC resident
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
-Original Message---
From:joeldime <joeldime@aol.com>
To:cc <cc@rpv.com>;parks <parks@rpv.com>;joeldime <joeldime@aol.com>
Sent:Mon,Jan 23,20122:48 pm
Subject:Fwd:from Joel Dime PBC resident
I am correcting some written mistakes of this letter.Please reread
Thank you
Joel Dime
--Original Message--
From:joeldime <joeldime@aol.com>
To:katieh <katieh@rpv.com>;JoelDime <JoeIDime@aol.com>
Sent:Tue,Jan 17,2012 12:54 am
Subject:from Joel Dime PBC resident
I am a resident of the PBC beach club.I am aware that you are proposing a dog beach next to our
property at Portuguese Bend Beach Club.I don't believe this is a wise idea.Unless you will have
security policing the facility,you for sure will have pet owners
walking their dogs with many off their leashes,which is illegal.This is a problem and they will not follow
the boundary line and will be trespassing with their dogs on our property as has been happening.We
have signs and they either
don't see or ignore the signs.I have seen more recently much feces on the proposed property and
Portuguese Bend Beach property,which is private property.Obviously owners not picking up after their
dogs.There are many children at this area and many on the Portuguese Bend property.We feel sure
with dogs not on their leash adults and children will be injured.A dog area needs to be enclosed and at
that point of entry,dogs can be taken off their leash and when leaving the dog facility put on a leash.
Who will police these areas proposed?Will the city put security,bathroom facilities,clean up personnel
at this area?Why would any authority in their right mind want to designate a beach for dogs when we
need safe and clean areas for our families to enjoy.At Portuguese Bend Beach club we have many
beach members over the years and never have I seem feces,heard,or
witness problems.
of a dog biting or barking.The main reason,we don't allow dogs in our beach area. I don't want to go to
the beach and deal with irate dog owners.We know that dogs are a very delicate subject for pet owners
and don't want to deal with any ignorant,possessive,and aggressive dog owners.Why don't they open
their back yards for me to take my dog?Why would anyone who has respect for people ever want to
open a can of worms such as this when there is no need for such access?You politicians really should
ask yourselves is this responsible for me to serve this way.If you open this beach to pets,I hope the city
is ready to pay money for potential problems.For sure you will have problems and cause people to not
enjoy this area as they have in the past.
thank you
Joel Dime
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-109
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Peter Sun
From:Gibson,D.Blair [dbgibson@elcamino.edu]
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,20121:43 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Dog beach below Trump National
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
I would like to add my voice to those that would make the beach below Trump National an official dog
beach.The beach as it is is secluded and somewhat useless for swimming due to the submerged rocks
close to shore.It is however for these reasons ideal for dog walking.I admit that there are some
problems with some irresponsible owners not picking up their dog's poop,and some owners bringing
antisocial dogs to the beach,but these people are a small minority.
On another tclck,I see repeated evidence that someone is harvesting lobster from the bay offshore in
the form of lobster shells on the beach.A few weeks ago I saw someone in a low grey motorboat
offshore and it looked like he was tending to lobster pots.This should be looked into.
Blair Gibson
23154 Ladeene Ave.
Torrance,CA.90505
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-110
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Elizabeth H Chamberlain [echamberlain@pugetsound.edu]
Tuesday,January 24,2012 1:49 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach
Follow up
Yellow
To Whom it May Concern:
My name is Elizabeth Chamberlain,and I have lived in RPV my whole life.I am now 19
years old and I go to school in Tacoma,Washington.
I just received an email from both my sister and my Dad to let me know that there is
potential for a dog ban on the Ocean Trails beach.We have been going to this beach for
years,we live about five minutes away and we used to go almost every weekend just for a
walk.We never had a dog up until 4 years ago,so I can say that I have enjoyed the beach
as a dog-owne~.as well as just someone going down to get some fresh air and enjoy the
view.The fact is that there are numerous other beaches to enjoy in the area for anyone
who does not want interaction with dogs.Not to mention the fact that dog-owners pay
taxes too!They should get to benefit from the beautiful parks and beaches as well.
Just this past Winter Break I had,I came home and was down on the beach about 15 out of
the 21 days I was home.Most of the people there were dog-owners themselves,which leads
me to wonder if the park would be used very much at all if dogs were banned.
I don't know what kind of feedback you were asking for,but I hope this might help even if
just a little but.I am passionate about this matter as it is my favorite activity to do
when I come home on breaks and I love my dogs very much.
Regards,
Elizabeth Chamberlain
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ATTACHMENT F-111
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Lance Richmond [Iance.hcg@gmail.com]
Tuesday,January 24,20124:11 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dogs off leash at Trump
Follow up
Yellow
Hi my name is Lance Richmond.I live in Redondo Beach.I bring my dog Romeo to Trump every
Sunday morning so he can run and play with other dogs on the beach.As far as my input;
dogs are easier going off lead then on.In the 3 years I've been going I've never had or
seen an issue except for the owners not picking up their dog's poop.The trail is pretty
steep so small children and the elderly really shouldn't attempt to go.If someone has an
issue with other dogs being off lead,there are PLENTY of beaches,streets,and places
they can go.I hope my dog can remain going to the beach since the next closest place is
Long Beach.
Sincerely,
Lance
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ATTACHMENT F-112
Peter Sun
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From:Mike Koerner [mkoerner@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,January 24,20126:45 PM
To:CC@Rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog park below Trump
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear council members,
I am opposed to having a dog park on the beach below Trump golf course.
I would like to lie on what sand is there without worrying about doggy tickle or worse.
Mike Koerner
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-113
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
larry st.john [bhncbad@cox.net]
Tuesday,January 24,20127:58 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dogs
Follow up
Yellow
Please,no dog park at Trump.
Larry St.John
4225 Admirable Dr.
RPV,CA
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ATTACHMENT F-114
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,January 25,20128:57 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Simon -Supports Dog Beach
Jan Simon,Rancho Palos Verdes resident residing on Stalwart Drive,called January 24,2012.She
supports continuing to allow dogs off-leash at Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.She has been taking her
dogs there for 41 years,and hasn't once seen an altercation.Her phone number is 310-541-3164.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-115
Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,January 25,201210:34 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:tracyb@rpv.com
Subject:FW:Open Dog Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
From:Phillip "Phil"sabol [mailto:sabolhere@aol.com]
sent:Wednesday,January 25,201210:18 AM
To:CC@Rpv.oom
Subject:Open Dog Park
I am in favor of the proposed open dog park at the beach,below Trump National.
I do not have a dog.
Phillip "Phil"Sabol
sabolhere@aol.com
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-116
Katie Howe
From:Michelle Farrow [farrowm@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,January 25.2012 8:02 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Beach at Trumps Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
I would like to express my wish that dogs be allowed to use the beach below Trumps National Golf
Course.I have never seen any problems or heard any complaints about dog use on this beach.
Michelle Farrow
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-117
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Peter Sun
From:R.Lauck [rlauck@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,January 25,20129:18 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Open Dog Park At Trump Beach
The Seaview Residents Association President has emailed residents that the City is sbliciting input from
citilens regarding the possibility of making the public sand beach below Trump Golf Course and open
dog park.We believe that sand beach is the only extensive one within the RPV coast.(Terranea Resort
has a small sand beach).As such,it is the only RPV beach where people,especially children,can enjoy
playing on the sandy beach,digging,building and lying on the sand as they do.Allowing dogs to run free
on this beach would be a serious public health issue.We further believe that even allowing leashed
dogs on the beach is also a serious public health issue.
The President's email indicated that presumably the dog owners would be required to clean up after
their dogs and ieash them when they return to the cliff top.We have years of experience with dog
owners'non-compliance with laws requiring them to clean up their dog's defecations.Nearly on a daily
basis we clean up dog defecations on our property,walkways and parkways.And every trail has fresh
dog defecations every time we walk them even though bags are provided at our expense at the trail
heads.Hoping that requiring dog owners to pick up their dog defecations on the beach will protect
children from coming in contact with them is a futile exercise and would do nothing to insure public
health on the beach.And dogs also urinate on a regular basis and regurgitate and that is essentially
impossible to pick up.
We strongly recommend that the Parks Department and City Council adopt a policy that not only
prohibits dogs from running free on this valuable public resource but that they be prohibited even on a
leash from the sand beach area as well.
Respectfully,
Bob and Donna Lauck
rlauck@cox.net
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-118
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Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20127:07 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:tracyb@rpv.com
SUbject:FW:"Trump"beach open dog park
From:CSchamp@aol.com [mailto:CSchamp@aol.com]
sent:Wednesday,January 25,2012 7:18 PM
To:CC@Rpv.com
Cc:rgschamp@aol.com
SUbject:''Trl,)mp''beach open dog park
Roger and Carol Schamp are totally against using the only sandy beach in RPV for an open dog park.
Please feel free to contact us at cschamp@aol.com and rgschamp@aol.com and
Thank you.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-119
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Peter Sun
From:Fleishman,Jeff [JFleishman@gategourmet.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20127:40 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Dogs on RPV Beach
To Whom It May Concern,
Hello,my name is Jeff Fleishman and I am a resident and dog owner from Torrance,CA.I am writing this
letter in regards to your discussions regarding future uses of Palos Verdes beach.Being from another
city,I am sure that my opinion in this matter does not carry as much weight as that of the citizens of
beautiful Rancho Palos Verdes Beach but,in any case,I still would like to put my two cents in.
First of all I must say that I do not know or understand the environmental or fiscal impact that having dogs
on the beach has had.That being said my opinion in this matter really boils down to the fact that I am just
a guy who likes to take his dog walking on the beach some days after work.Rancho Palos Verdes Beach
is such a beaCltiful beach and is also one of the few shorelines left in Southern California where I can take
my dog.I am a large dog owner,who lives in an apartment,and the beach is a great way for my pup to
blow up steam.I don't let him off the leash and I always clean up after him.Being able to bring my whole
family to the beach is very important to me and I hope that this wonderful privilege isn't taken away from
us.
Thank you so much,
Jeffrey Fleishman
1-310-617-9282
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-120
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Trudy Kennedy [kennedt4@gmail.com]
Thursday,January 26,2012 8:16 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog beach
Yes.We need an off lease dog beach.There is no place in our cit~where dogs can run
free.
Trudy Kennedy
RPV
310-245-6264
"God Bless America"
'.
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ATTACHMENT F-121
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
YES on dog beach.
Amy Kennedy [a_kennedy@sbcglobal.net]
Thursday,January 26,2012 9:56 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach?YES
Follow up
Completed
Yes yes yes
Sent from my iPhone
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ATTACHMENT F-122
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Peter Sun
From:Patrizia Richardson [patrizia.richardson@gmail.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,201212:18 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:RPV Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Please leave the beach as it is.This is one of the few beaches my dog can come and play on the
beach.
I have never seen dog waste or had a problem with another dog.Not enough dogs are out there to
cause any problems.
Please leave it as is
I live in Manhattan Beach.
Thankyou,"
Patrizia Richardson and Wiley the beagle...
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-123
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,August 30,2011 11 :34 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Anonymous -supports
Hi Katie:On August 19th ,an unnamed resident called to voice her support for a dog beach at Trump
National -she did leave her telephone number::
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-124
Peter Sun
From:Joel Rojas Doelr@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 8:22 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tom Odom';'Greg Pfost'
Subject:FW:dogs on the beach
From:virginia padilla [mailto:virgiepadilla@cox.net]
sent:Thursday,August 18,20118:09 PM
To:planning@rpv.com
Subject:dogs on the beach
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I just want you.to know that I am strongly opposed to dogs on the beach.
I stopped going to the Beach at Trumps after two off leach dogs charged my grandchildren.The dogs
were bigger than them.
There are too many instances of people being mauled by friendly k-nine pets.This is a great liability to
the City.
Dogs and their owners began using this beach more frequently after Trumps access improvements and
became more prominent after it was exposed as a Dog Beach on Good Day LA.
RPV should enforce its Ordinance prohibiting animals on beaches,leashed or unleashed.
Seaview Resident
Virginia Padilla
310-544-6160
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-125
Peter Sun
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 10:35 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog beach at Trump
-----~~
From:Dana Dorsett [mailto:dm@danamoon.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 10:34 AM
To:carlam@rpv.com
Subject:Fwd:Dog beach at Trump
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From:Dana Dorsett <dm@danamoon.com>
Date:August 19,2011 10:31:04 AM PDT
To:"cc@mv.com"<cc@mv.com>
Subject:Dog beach at Trump
I am writing to inform you that unleashed dogs of aggressive breeds are causing me
to stop taking my grandchildren to the beaches and hiking trails accessing the beach
at Trump.We live in Seaview across from the golf course and have enjoyed hiking
those trails for decades.But the dog population has increased on the trails and at the
beach and the owners of the unleashed dogs are not nearby often when they
aggressively approach little children.
My husband spoke with a LA County lifeguard on the beach about the recent rapid
increase ofunleashed dogs and the guard informed my husband Jeff that the Internet
identifies the beach as a dog beach and is drawing many dogs and owners from as
far as Pasadena with their unleashed dogs,
Please make sure the dogs are leashed on the trails and prohibited all together on the
beach so that the rest ofus can again enjoy the trails and the beach.
Thank you for your attention.
Dana Dorsett
Sent from my iPad
i.i
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-126
Peter Sun
._---_._--_.__._-------------------._----------------
From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 11 :56 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Giacomoni -Supports
Hi ~atie,
Mrs.Giacomoni called to give her support for the dogs being allowed on the beach.She just recently
moved here from New York and is now a resident of Palos Verdes Pennisula.
Thanks,
Rosemary
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-127
rage 1 01 1
Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 11 :57 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Kato -Supports
Hi Katie,
I received a call from Lisa Kato in support of the article.She believes dogs should be allowed on the
beach.She was driving and will call back to get email information.She is a resident of Rancho Palos
Verdes.
Thanks,
Rosemary
,.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-128
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 11 :58 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Cahill -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
I received a call from Diana Cahill in support of the article in Daily Breeze.She is a resident of Palos
Verdes Estates.She believes dogs should be allowed on the beach.She does not own a dog but
believes they need a place to run!
Thanks,
Rosemary
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-129
Peter Sun--_._---_.
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,20114:00 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Foster -Supports
John Foster,also a RPV resident,is in favor of a dog friendly beach!
i i
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-130
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 4:01 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Kalmey -Supports
Robert Kalmey supports the article in that he believes the dogs should be allowed to run on the beach.
He ·was very upset he says that the City could do this to themll
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-131
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Peter Sun
From:Robert Kalmey [kalmeyfamily@cox.net]
Sent:Sunday,August 21,2011 9:57 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:Erika Barber;katieh@rpv.com;info@pvpwatch.com
Subject:Dog-Friendly Beach in RPV please
Dear RPV City Council and any other city staff who receive this email:
PLEASE LEAVE OUR CLIFFSIDE BEACH BelOW THE GOLF COURSE ALONE FOR DOG OWNERS TO
WALK THEIR DOGS THERE AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS.PLEASE GET RID OF THE
STUPID ANTI-DOG ORDINANCE FOR THIS REMOTE BEACH AREA AND LEAVE US ALONE.
This beach b~low the Trump golf course is NOT a Southern CA sunning or bathing beach,as you
know.It is not a swimming beach.You city employees know this perfectly well.Almost no one
even dares to surf there with all the submerged rocks and crazy currents.As you know,it is a
remote,tiny,and little known beach mainly accessed by local RPV residents who like to have a
nice place to walk their dogs and let them playa little.Posting lifeguards there is idiotic and a
complete waste of money.
Further,I have never once witnessed any dog attack anyone there or on the way walking there,
and as your lifeguards can attest to,most of the people there on the beach are dog owners with
their dogs right there,and we love the other dogs who run around off the leash down by the
water there.We greet the other dogs and we pet them and play with them.
Please leave dog owner residents at this beach alone.Get rid of your dumb ordinance as
pertains to this beach location.Residents of RPV who pay your salary (like me)are very upset
that officials of our City,hired by us to serve us,would be so heavy-handed as to needlessly
threaten this nice part of our lives here.
Thank you..
Robert Kalmey
4263 Admirable Drive
RPV
cell (626)991-1811
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-132
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Peter Sun
From:Marlene Smyth [marlene@chasmar.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,2011 4:19 PM
To:citycouncil@ccrpv.com
Cc:katieh@rpv.com
SUbject:In favor of dog beach
I am in favor of the dog friendly beach in RPV.It is a very secluded beach and not that easy to
get to so I do not know why anyone would be against it.They see dogs are there before they
even get to it.This is my second Labrador retriever that enjoys playing in the water and the
people on the beach love watching all the dogs playing in the water (and so does my family).
Please do not stop this all because of one complaint.
Thank you•.
Marlene Smyth,LUTCF
Chasmar Insurance Services
Ca.Lic 0814645
310544-7133 (0)
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-133
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe (katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,August 19,20114:18 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Smyth -Supports
Marlene Smyth called to lend her support for the dogs on the beach!She is Palos Verdes estates
.resident.She will follow with comments via email.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-134
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Peter Sun
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From:Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 22,2011 9:49 AM
To:'Tom Odom';'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Yes for dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Thank you,
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o City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
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From:Phyllis-Weissman [mailto:phyllisweissman@hotmall.com]
sent:Monday,August 22,20119:46 AM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:Yes for dog park
It would be great to have the dog park.It would be even greater to have a separate area for
large dogs and another for small dogs.
Thank you,
Phyllis B.Weissman
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-135
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Peter Sun_._._.._------_._-_.__..__...._-_._--_.
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 22,2011 11 :08 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Foster -Against
Elizabeth Foster called to share that she would like the beach below Trump National to be governed by
the.same rules as other RPV beaches -no dogs on the beach.Dog waste is not healthy;she is
concerned with germs.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-136
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 22,2011 4:25 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Bana -Supports
Peter Bana called to express his support for an off-leash dog beach.He frequents the beach with his two
dogs.His entire family supports the idea of keeping it as an off-leash dog beach.He is an PVE resident.
310-753-1253.
Thank You,
Katie Howe
Administrative Analyst
Recreation and Parks Department
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5267
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-137
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 22,2011 4:40 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Doran -Supports
Lynn Doran supports an off-leash dog beach below Trump National.She has been taking her dogs there
for 12 years.It is a good location for a dog beach particularly because it is not a great swimming beach.
She-likes the idea of keeping it a dog beach for locals,and not all of LA County.She believes that dog
need a place to run,and this is a good location for it.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-138
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,August 23,2011 10:21 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Marino -Supports
Joe and Beatrice Marino,RPV residents,called to share that they support the beach below Trump
National remaining an off-leash dog beach.Mrs.Marino shared that there are no other local dog
beaches,and it nice having one so close for dogs to playoff-leash.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-139
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 24,2011 10:18 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Hyatt -Support
Herb Hyatt,RPV resident called to express his support for an off-leash dog beach below Trump National.
He.suggested the difficult access and fact that the water is full of rocks and seaweed make it less
desirable for a swimming beach,and a more appropriate location to devote of off-leash dogs.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-140
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 24,201112:21 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Renfrow
Mrs.Renfrow called to express that she would support the idea of a dog beach if it did,not draw large
crowds,and if it were possible to keep the beach clean.She expressed that before yesterday (August
23)she had supported the idea of making the beach below Trump Golf Course a dog beach,but
yesterday while she was hiking,the smell of dog urine was very strong and she noticed a lot of dog waste
on the beach.She suggested possibly not advertising this as a dog beach,not making it a formal dog
beach,but simply not enforcing City ordinances so that it wouldn't draw large crowds.She has noticed
more and more dogs on the beach over the years as it is advertised online as an informal dog beach.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-141
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,August 24,2011 1:57 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Rigenstein -Supports
Dan Rigenstein called to express his support for a dog beach below Trump National Golf Course.He
thinks it is a good location for a dog beach since it is not a swimming beach.It is great to have a place to
run dogs.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-142
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:37 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Anonymous 1 -Supports
Hi Katie:On August 18th an unnamed resident called in support of allowing dogs off leash at the beach at
Trl;lmp National.Her number is..She suggested doing a comparison to the Coronada Dog
Beach in San Diego.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-143
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Peter Sun
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:44 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Balint -Supports
Jackie Balint is a resident of RPV who is in favor of the dog beach.She says that is the only beach area
in which people can take their dogs.She feels that the only reason there would be any dog fighting is if
dogs were forced to stay on a leash and that it is lUdicrous that people would try to ban dogs from the
beach completely.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-144
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Marcella Lemke
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 08,2011 8:03 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Trump Dog Park
From:ninarpv@aol.com [mailto:ninarpv@aol.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 08,2011 5:09 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Trump Dog Park
Dear City Council,
I am writing to convince you to keep the beach at Trump a dog-friendly zone.I take my dog down
there all the time and it is her favorite place and mine.Whenever I go down there it is always clean.
People who know about the beach seem to respect it and clean up after their dogs.It is never too
crowded and a great place to socialize the animals.I'm afraid that I will be losing one of my most loved
places in Palos Verdes if you take this away. Please consider how important this place is for dogs and
their owners in the community.Thank you.
Sincerely,
Nina Pisano
i
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-145
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Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:49 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Anonymous 2 -Supports
On August 24th an unnamed resident called in support of keeping the beach dog friendly.No Name,no
telephone number left.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-146
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:51 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Beron-Rawdon -Supports
On August 24th ,Deborah Beron-Rawdon,tel.
if
2/6/2012
called in support of a dog beach.
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ATTACHMENT F-147
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:55 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Fox -Supports
On-August 22nd ,Anita Fox called in support of a dog beach.no tel.#.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-148
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:56 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Fernandez -Supports
On-August 20th Carrie Fernandez (no tel.#)called to voice her support for an off-leash dog beach below
Trump National Golf Course.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-149
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:56 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Anonymous 4 -Against
On August 22nd an unnamed resident called to state that dogs should not be allowed on the beach at
Trump National.His number
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ATTACHMENT F-150
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Peter Sun
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday I August 25,2011 4:58 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Anonymous -Oppose ~5
An anonymous caller called today to voice their opposition to dogs at the beach below Trump National.
Sh~shared that she no longer visits the beach because she is scared of dogs,and there are too many.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-151
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Peter Sun
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From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:10 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Su~ed:PAM-SUPPORTS
Hi Katie:Pam called,resident of Redondo Beach -supports Dog Beach -
2/6/2012
Marcella
ATTACHMENT F-152
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:12 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Feingold,Cheri and Don -Support
Hi Katie:Rancho Palos Verdes residents -
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-153
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:14 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Easton,Daphine -Supports ON-Leash only Dog Beach
Hi Katie:RPV resident-
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-154
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:16 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Grossman,Debra -Supports
Hi Katie:Supporter Tel.# ..-not sure if resident or not (:<)
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-155
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:17 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Rosato,Wendy -Supporter
Hi Katie:Not sure of residency -'
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2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-156
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:18 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Hecker,Dan -Supports
Hi Katie:Didn't leave info on residency;Tel #.
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-157
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:20 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Clark,Dorothy -Supports
Tel.#
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-158
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:21 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Skora,Darlene -Supports
RPV Resident -Tel
'l'i,J
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-159
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:23 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Aston,Nancy -Supports
RPV Resident -Tel:
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-160
Peter Sun
From:Marcella Lemke [marcellal@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 5:24 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Bracegirdle,Suzi -Supports
Didn't leave city of residence -tel.#~
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2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-161
Peter Sun
From:dave unvert [drunvert@gmaiI.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20122:56 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Keep it a dog beach!No gOY intervention necessary!
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-162
Katie Howe
From:T P [tyronetyrony@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,2012 1:50 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:C9mpleted
Sorry"I forgot to say where I
live .....Torrance
Tom Penland
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-163
Katie Howe
From:Barb Lancaster [barb.lancaster@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20124:03 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com;'Barb Lancaster'
Subject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
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Deco,Tally and I love Trumps beach arl<:!hope you make it a permanent dog beach.It would be nice to
clarify how the beach is used since there are fishermen there who leave hooks and bait out that the dogs
can get into,there are picnickers who don't expect loose dogs and are bothered by the sand and tongues,
and there are dead seals all over it after storms which are hard to get removed by anyone.Dedicating
this as a dog park will cgntinue to bring visitors to the area - a positive for our community -will keep this
an attractive place to live -the dog beach is a big reason we chose to live here -and will help tensions
that exist in this informal dog beach.Please allow it to be for dogs ....it's a long drive to Belmont Shores
or Huntington Beach,communities that are dog friendly for sure.
Please don't overreact to the stories that you hear from non-dog owners ....they were angry to have
written you about the situation that drove them to write.I'm there almost every day with Deco and his
friends and believe that even at the most crowded times,the dog owners are taking good care of the
romping,sandy,wet pooches.
I would be happy to do other things to help patrol,inspect,or observe this beach ....please call on me,and
Deco!
Barb Lancaster
310-995-7068
San Pedro,South Shores resident.
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-164
Katie Howe
From:Jack Davis Dackdavis2004@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20124:23 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:No to dog beaches
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Please don'tJet our beautiful beaches become dog parks (dog bathrooms)Ifyou let a dog loose
on the beach there's no way oftelling where it poops and it won't get picked up.
Dogs can be dangerous to children and old ladies.The beaches are for everyone's enjoyment,not
just dog owners who don't want to clean up after their pets.
Thank you.
Diane Davis
Rolling Hills Estates
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-165
Katie Howe
From:dave unvert [drunvert@gmail.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20122:56 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Keep it a dog beach!No gOY intervention necessary!
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-166
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Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
d2skorka@cox.net
Thursday,January 26,2012 4:24 PM
cc@rpv.com
parks@rpv.com
Dog beach
Follow up
Completed
I am writing to voice my support for the unofficial off leash dog beach below the Trump
golf course be designated an official off leash dog beach.
Darlene Skorka
Darlene Skorka,
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ATTACHMENT F-167
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Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
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Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
d2skorka@cox.net
Thursday,January 26,20124:24 PM
cc@rpv.com
parks@rpv.com
Dog beach
Follow up
Completed
I am writing to voice my support for the unofficial off leash dog beach below the Trump
golf course be designated an official off leash dog beach.
Darlene Skorka
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ATTACHMENT F-168
Peter Sun
From:
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To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Tony West [corrug8@aol.com]
Thursday,January 26,20122:57 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach
Follow up
Yellow
What a wonderful addition to the South Bay to have a dog beach!We are responsible dog
owners,and would really appreciate the opportunity to let our dog run and play at the
beach.Thanks for your consideration.We support the dog beach fully.
Tony &Linda West
Hermosa Beach,CA
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ATTACHMENT F-169
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Peter Sun
From:SenatorC@aol.com
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20123:27 PM
To:parks@rpv.com;cc@rpv.com
SUbject:Opposition to proposed Dog Park on Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
We have become aware of a proposal to create a dog park on the sandy beach area at Founders'Park
below the Trump golf clubhouse.he notice we saw asked for comment.
We are opposed to such usage because of the potential befoUling of the beach and the ocean by urine
and fecal matter from the animals.It is one of the only sandy beaches available for use in the city.
People are more important than animals!
George and Barbara Gleghorn
28850 Crestridge Road,
RPV
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-170
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Peter Sun
From:Barb Lancaster [barb.lancaster@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20124:03 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com;'Barb Lancaster'
Subject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
;x1\_--;
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Deco,Tally and I love Trumps beach and hope you make it a permanent dog beach.It would be nice to
clarify how the beach is used since there are fishermen there who leave hooks and bait out that the dogs
can get into,.-there are picnickers who don't expect loose dogs and are bothered by the sand and tongues,
and there are dead seals all over it after storms which are hard to get removed by anyone.Dedicating
this as a dog park will continue to bring visitors to the area - a positive for our community -will keep this
an attractive place to live -the dog beach is a big reason we chose to live here -and will help tensions
that exist in this informal dog beach.Please allow it to be for dogs ....it's a long drive to Belmont Shores
or Huntington Beach,communities that are dog friendly for sure.
Please don't overreact to the stories that you hear from non-dog owners ....they were angry to have
written you about the situation that drove them to write.I'm there almost every day with Deco and his
friends and believe that even at the most crowded times,the dog owners are taking good care of the
romping,sandy,wet pooches.
I would be happy to do other things to help patrol,inspect,or observe this beach ....please call on me,and
Deco!
Barb Lancaster
310-995-7068
San Pedro,South Shores resident.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-171
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Peter Sun
From:EZStevens [ezstevens@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20126:00 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Ordinance
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
I am strongly against a dog park at the beach because of the following reasons:
1.I walk Trump public trails religiously and I would like to have a nickel for all the
dog poops that dog owners refuse to pick up-the increase of dog walkers and
population will certainly increase when they are aware that the there is a dog
park on the beach.
2.It encourages all kinds of people and dogs to populate our area and the legality
of dogs without being under the control of their master is a law followed by the
state.
3.The parking will be impaired and the traffic will be increased.
4.I like dogs,but not near a private Beach Club and their feces are not a good sight
and it is a health hazard ,who will be responsible for cleaning the beach if owners
don't?
5.I happen to know there is a dog park up by Friendship Park,that should be an
answer to the dog owners that want a dog park for their dogs.
Please add these comments to the material that is being reviewed for this city decision.
Thank you,
Barbara Stevens
Seaview,RPV
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Peter Sun
From:Nancy Skifstrom [nanerskif@hotmail.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20127:15 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
HI,
I'm responding to the "needs your input"article regarding "should Rancho Palos
Verdes Beach be a dog beach"?Yes,would love a dog beach in the area.I
think most ,people that would take dogs to places like this are going to be
responsible,dog owners,so I don't see any negative side.Also,there are not
enough places for dogs to play.When I was a kid,I used to take my dog to my
school and throw the ball,but you can't do that anymore.It would be a great
activity for family's to do and really anybody that has a dog.I hope that
this comes into fruition!!!
Thanks,
Nancy
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-173
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
macmillt [macmillt@pacbell.net]
Thursday,January 26,2012 10:19 PM
cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach
Follow up
Yellow
Dear Sirs,
As a local resident and visitor to the informal dog beach that exists in PV I can only say
it is a very positive location for all.Dogs are a part of our culture and are considered
'man's best friend,'yet they are limited and controlled like vicious vermin.It is sad
that so many limitations should be placed on so many good dogs and good dog owners because
of an occasional bad dog owner.I spend time at Dog Beach on occasion and have never
witnessed any negative dog behavior toward humans or other dogs.What I have seen are
many happy human and dog faces enjoying one of the precious few locations where a dog can
do what nature-and breeding have intended it to do -run in the wind and meet other dogs
and people.There is a great.joy in seeing an animal in all it's glory running as fast as
it's four legs can carry it,tongue lolling at the side of it's mouth,with a great big
smile on it's face.
I urge you to consider the remote location of dog beach and the respect that the vast
majority of dog owners have for this incredibly precious and small amount of free space
that is available to dogs and keep it available to us and our furry friends.Fear
inspired by a few misguided opinions should not out-way the interest of many.The rest of
the vast California coastline belongs to humans only;surely this tiny stretch can be
shared with 'Man's Best Friend.'
Thank you for your time and consideration,Andrea MacMillan
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Peter Sun
From:Jean H.Kojima Dhkojima@verizon.net]
Sent:Friday,January 27,20127:10 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
To whom it may concern,
My names is Jean Kojima,I live in Rancho Palos Verdes.I think it's about time we have a dog park,a
short leash would be good as control/prevention maybe needed .
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-175
Peter Sun
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dletwin@cox.net
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cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Trump Beach
Follow up
Yellow
I am very much in favor of allowing dogs at the Trump Beach.I live across the street and
go there with my dog as often as possible-preferably every day!!It is absolutely my
dog's favorite place to go -she loves to retrieve tennis balls in the waves.I have
noticed,however,that the area tends to become very crowded on weekends,especially in
the summer on warm days.There have several times I have been down there when very
aggressive dogs have attacked my dog.I don't know if it is feasible to have a lifeguard
there on weekends only to supervise activity.It would also be very helpful if there was a
trash can at the bottom of the trail,and possibly some trash bags as a reminder to dog
owners to clea~up after thier pet!!
My dog (Kona)would be very sad if she did not have access to this beach!!
Debra Letwin
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From:fivemuellers [fivemuellers@cox.net]
Sent:Friday,January 27,201212:13 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog park on the beach below Seaview
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Gentlemen:
I would like to state that I'm opposed to a dog park at the beach.My main
concern is that of safety of all beach users.I have seen many instances of dogs
off leash on the trails of RPV where "normally gentle"dogs become very
aggressive.yvhen they are off leash.
Additionally,I regularly pass through the Ladera Linda area during regular hikes
and am appalled at the frequency of off leash dogs.Just today I saw five
unleashed dogs within an hour.I thought that RPV had rangers who enforced
the "leash law"but they don't seem to be very effective.What assurances are
there that the law would be enforced at a relatively remote beach?
Hubert Mueller
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-177
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Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 1:13 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:tracyb@rpv.com
SUbject:FW:Ranco Palos Verders Dog Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:Steve Toigo [mailto:stoigo@spectrumchemical.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 11:40 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Ranco Palos Verders Dog Park
This is a wonderful idea.You have my support!
Steve
Steven Taiga sto!go@Speetrumehemleals.eom
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-178
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Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,20121:14 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:tracyb@rpv.com
SUbject:FW:re dog park
F-ollow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:Marlin Sue More [mailto:marlin.more@cox.net]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 11:31 AM
To:cc@rpv.aom
SUbject:re dog park
My name is Marlin More.I live in Rolling Hills Estates.Currently we take our two dogs to Long Beach to
the dog park.I would be very much in favor of a dog beach in RPV.What can I do to help this happen?
The dog beach in Long Beach is very carefully patrolled and I would certainly want that to be a part of
this dog beach.
Marlin More
4927 Rolling Meadows Road
Rolling Hills Estates CA 90274
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-179
Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,20121:27 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:tracyb@rpv.com
Subject:FW:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:jacqueline Mathis [mailto:kf6jaoinca@gmail.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 10:00 AM
To:cc@rpv.coJ;ll
Subject:Dog beach
I feel the beach is for children to play and the dogs are frighting to them.No dogs.
J
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-180
Peter Sun
From:
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SUbject:
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Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Friday,January 27,20121:29 PM
'Katie Howe'
tracyb@rpv.com
FW:Dog Beach below Trumps
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:Lori Jones [mailto:pvcw@cox.net]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 8:24 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach below Trumps
"
Esteemed Council Members and Staff,
When the Trump Organization owned the property below the golf course,there never seemed
to be an issue with dogs being on the beach.Every time I went down there to run I'd see
happy people and happy dogs heading down to the beach or coming back.Why throw a wrench
into the works?
I can understand the city's need to pass an ordinance that would make a dog-park legal,
but that is just paperwork.As it stands,there already 'is'a well-established dog beach.
If you vote to enforce a non-dog law,you will be taking away a positive situation from
your community instead of giving them what they 'already'have - a nice place to go with
their pets.Not to mention,policing those laws would be another expense our city doesn't
need to spend money on.
I'd like to end by letting you know that I don't own a dog.My opinion is simply based on
how smoothly the present situation appears to be running.Please,keep dog beach available
to the public and their pets.
Lori Jones
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ATTACHMENT F-181
Peter Sun
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msjanetz@cox.net
Friday,January 27,20123:24 PM
cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
DOG BEACH AT TRUMP
Follow up
Completed
As a 35-year resident of the Seaview Area in RPV and an avid 13-year hiker,I am
distressed to see all of the dog waste strewn about the hills and pathways leading to the
beach and on the trails.The concrete pathway next to the club house at Trump is awash
with dog urine;the odor is nauseating!I have been threatened on only three occasions by
a barking,growling dog,but it has been enough to make me nervous and uncomfortable
whenever I see a dog without a leash!There is no one to regulate these dogs being on a
leash and their accompanying excrement and urine allover the place.I don't see a
lifeguard,bathroom facilities for people,or the.Sheriff's Dept.that would be easily
accessible in'pase of a dog attack!
Passing an ordinance allowing dogs to run free on the beach makes it untenable for those
of us who like to ride and hike these trails,and to enjoy a quiet,clean pristine beach.
More importantly,the city could be faced with huge bodily injury liability incidents.
This beach is one of the few beaches accessible to people on this side of the "The Hill".
Since none of the other South Bay Beach Cities allow dogs on their beaches,why should
this be an exception?Save this pristine location for people and prohibit dogs on this
beach!
Sincerely,
Janet Zupke
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ATTACHMENT F-182
Katie Howe
From:
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Flag Status:
msjanetz@cox.net
Friday,January 27,20123:24 PM
cc@rpv.com; parks@rpv.com
DOG BEACH AT TRUMP
Follow up
Completed
As a 3S-year resident of the Seaview Area in RPV and an avid 13-year hiker,I am
distressed to see all of the dog waste strewn about the hills and pathways leading to the
beach and on the trails.The concrete pathway next to the club house at Trump is awash
with dog urine;the odor is nauseating!I have been threatened on only three occasions by
a barking,growling dog,but it has been enough to make me nervous and uncomfortable
whenever I see a dog without a leash!There is no one to regulate these dogs being on a
leash and their accompanying excrement and urine allover the place.I don't see a
lifeguard,bathroom facilities for people,or the Sheriff's Dept.that would be easily
accessible in case of a dog attack!
Passing an ordinance allowing dogs to run free on the beach makes it untenable for those
of us who like to ride and hike these trails,and to enjoy a quiet,clean pristine beach.
More importantly,the city could be faced with huge bodily injury liability incidents.
This beach is one of the few beaches accessible to people on this side of the "The Hill".
Since none of the other South Bay Beach Cities allow dogs on their beaches,why should
this be an exception?Save this pristine location for people and prohibit dogs on this
beach!
Sincerely,
Janet Zupke
1 ATTACHMENT F-183
Peter Sun
From:Popsgas@aol.com
Sent:Saturday,January 28,20124:36 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Yes,we would like to see a dog friendly park on the beach,on-leash or off-leash closer than
Huntington Beach.
Mike,Stacey and "Fiona"Reynolds
Redondo Beach
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-184
Katie Howe
From:BKLEYVA@aol.com
Sent:Sunday,January 29,20129:46 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
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Hi,
I just wanted to add my voice to the proposal of allocating the beach below Trump Golf Course as a
dog beach.I have 3 dogs and have been taking them there for quite a while now to play in the water &
run on the beach.It brings so much joy to both myself &them,it would be terrible not to be able to do
that any more.
Every time I have gone there I have met other wonderful dog owners who are very responsible &love
to go to the beach &spend time enjoying themselves with their dogs.
There are very few places that we can go with our dogs &to be able to have a local beach that we can
go to and let our dogs run free would be absolutely fantastic!I
Please let us have that little bit of beach,we do not ask for much,just some doggie bags &trash cans
so we can maintain the cleanliness of the beach.
Thank-you so much,
Sincerely,
Karen Leyva
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-185
Katie Howe
From:BKLEYVA@aol.com
Sent:Sunday,January 29,20129:46 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Hi,
I just wanted to add my voice to the proposal of allocating the beach below Trump Golf Course as a
dog beach.I have 3 dogs and have been taking them there for quite a while now to play in the water &
run on the beach.It brings so much joy to both myself &them,it would be terrible not to be able to do
that any more.
Every time I have gone there I have met other wonderful dog owners who are very responsible &love
to go to the beach &spend time enjoying themselves with their dogs.
There are very few places that we can go with our dogs &to be able to have a local beach that we can
go to and let our dogs run free would be absolutely fantastic!I
Please let us have that little bit of beach,we do not ask for much,just some doggie bags &trash cans
so we can maintain the cleanliness of the beach.
Thank-you so much,
Sincerely,
Karen Leyva
2/9/2012
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Katie Howe ('
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From:Varners [varners1@cox.net]
Sent:Sunday,January 29,20123:55 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:YES to Dogs on Trump beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
As a homeowner in Rancho Palos Verdes,I strongly endorse dogs on the Trump beach without leashes.
Thank you,
Bill Varner
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-187
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Katie 'Hbwe
From:Holly Starr [hollys@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,January 30,2012 9:39 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Carolynn Petru'
Subject:FW:Please help save R.P.V beach from becoming LA county's only dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
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Just FYI
Holly Starr
Recreation Services Manager
City ofRancho Palos Verdes
Point Vicente Interpretive Center
Abalone Cove Shoreline Park
310-544-5264
From:Chris Del Moro [mailto:collectic@gmail.com]
Sent:Monday,January 30,2012 1:34 PM
To:losserenos@rpv.com
Subject:Please help save R.P.V beach from becoming LA county's only dog beach
Dear Los Serenos De Point Vincente,fIrst and foremost thank you for your work for our local
environment.
I am writing the group to inform them of the large environmental impact the growing population
of off leash dogs presents to the endangered Gnat catcher habitat,Cactus wren,Palos Verdes
Blue butterfly and large assortment of other wildlife effected from the trail dog park at Trump
Golf Course...I am also hoping to ignite concerned citizens to write the local council and show
up to the meetings at city hall.
As a 4th generation resident of the R.P.V shores,I am a nature lover,I also help co-direct Surfers
for Cetaceans and am shocked at the disrespectful behavior this amazing stretch of coast is now
battling.R.P.V city council are currently asking for public opinion on the dob beach.
Attached are a few photos that show the reality's of the unregulated dog frenzy that continues to
grow in numbers each weekend.
City council is making a ruling in the next month,time is critical..I understand it's hard for
some groups to make a comment on this type of matters,but I strongly urge you to please send
this to all docents and help write the city council.This directly effects us all.
Please help by writing council members at cc@rpv.com
Parks &rec parks@rpv.com or Katie -310544-5260
Or write RPV City Hall-30940 Hawthorne Blvd.90275
Thank you very much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.
Chris Del Moro
3105288466
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-188
Native wildlife Effected
Environmental impact from illegal R.P.V "secret dog beach"
Marine impact
California Sea Lion,Harbor Seal,Elephant Seal.Dogs are direct
threat as are sea lions to one another,with limited sandy beaches on the Peninsula,
this is a crucial zone for injured or aging animals to heal or pass away.For reasons
stemming from attack,to disease,this situation is Dangerous for dogs,people and
these amazing creatures of the sea.
Pelicans-Once used the sand and rocky shores as placed to
congrigate.Now much to dangerous with dogs ever present
Tide pools -Moss,kelp crabs,sea anenimies,star fish,sand
dollars,sand crabs,garibaldi (state fish),Octopus,sea slugs,
sea urchin,jelly fish,eels ...
Native plant life
Dudleya Lanceolata-Live-for-ever succulent -...The bright-
green live forever (Dudleya virens),a sensitive island plant species,grows within the
coastal bluff scrub community.The Palos Verdes Peninsula is its only natural mainland
occurrence.Although not state or federally listed,the plant is considered by the
California Native Plant Society to be rare and endangered in California and elsewhere.It
is also one of the target species for the local NCCP.(Brinkman-Busi,2000)
Lemon berries,now used as restrooms.
Native coastal sage scrub,grassland,cactus and riparian scrub
grow alongside non-native annual grassland
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Local Birds affected
Californian Gnatcatcher (endangered)-Use the surrounding area as
nesting grounds and habitat.Section 9 of the endangered Species Aet prohibits the
"take"(harassing or harming)of the listed species.Violators are subject to
prosecution which could result in fines up to $50,000 and/or imprisonment up to
one year.
These lands also shelter the EI Segundo blue butterfly,as well
as the Endangered Palos Verdes blue butterfly
Cactus wren-Protected species
Snowy plover -Status of this creature in California
Big horned,barn owl -
Dark shouldered Kites -New to the area
Red tailed Hawk -American Kestlet -White Cranes -Great
Blue Heron
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To whom it may concern:
It has come to my attention that the city council is considering what to do with the
small patch of beach below the Trump golf course.I heartily endorse this area becoming a
dog beach park.I live in South Shores and use the ocean bluff trail to walk my golden
retriever.The piece of beach in question is a favorite of dog owners,and we have often
let our dog swim there.
Let me begin by saying that dogs are becoming marginalized to such an extent that one
feels they are not allowed to go anywhere anymore.While I concede that this is probably
because not all people are responsible dog owners,does that mean that good dogs don't get
to enjoy the outdoors anymore off leash?My golden retriever needs exercise and I cannot
run to give him the sustained,elevated heart rate that he needs to stay in shape.Nor is
running the best kind of exercise for him,as he is a large dog with the sensitive joints
common to large breeds.Swimming is the perfect exercise for him.Indeed he was bred to
swim,and he is an enthusiastic and capable swimmer.It is truly an inspiration to watch
an animal do what it was born to do.Swimming gives him the exercise he needs,while
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ATTACHMENT F-195
protecting his (and
my)juints from running on hard surfaces.
dogs to be able to
the kind of prime,sandy beach
beach for a number of reasons.
One has to descend a steep cliff.Second,
comprised of some sand,.but has much larger
The beach in question would be ideal as a dog
First,the beach is not that easy to access.
it is not a predominantly sandy beach.It is
patches of beach with rocks of various
sizes.Third,it is not a safe beach for people to use for swimming,as
there are large rocks along the shoreline that are hidden at high tide.
Also,there can be a strong undertow.Fourth,unlike the water at the dog
Beach,the water at the beach below Trump golf course is
clean.All of these reasons make it a perfect place for
enjoy the water,as the piece of beach in question is not
that people seek out for tanning,swimming,etc.
beach in Long
I urge the city council to please keep our four legged family members in their thoughts,
as it considers what to do with this piece of waterfront.
Sincerely,
Cornelia Bernstein
3401 Mulldae Ave
San Pedro,CA..90732
310-756-8680
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To whom it may concern:<div><br></div><div>It has come to my attention that=the city
council is considering what to do with =AOthe small patch of beac=h below the Trump golf
course.=AOI heartily endorse this area becoming a d=og beach park.=AOI live in South
Shores and use the ocean bluff trail to w=alk my golden retriever.=AOThe piece of beach
in question is a favorite of=dog owners,and we have often let our dog swim there.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Let me begin by saying that dogs are becoming marginali=zed to such
an extent that one feels they are not allowed to go anywhere an=ymore.=AOWhile I concede
that this is probably because not all people are =responsible dog owners,does that mean
that good dogs don'jt get to enjo=y the outdoors anymore off leash?My golden
retriever needs exercise and I =cannot run to give him the sustained,elevated heart rate
that he needs to =stay in shape.=AONor is running the best kind of exercise for him,as
he i=s a large dog with the sensitive joints common to large breeds.=AOSwimming=is the
perfect exercise for him.Indeed he was bred to swim,and he is an =enthusiastic and
capable swimmer.=AOIt is truly an inspiration to watch an=animal do what it was born to
do.=AOSwimming gives him the exercise he ne=eds,while protecting his (and my)joints
from running on hard surfaces.</d=
iv>
<div><br></div><div>The beach in question would be ideal as a dog beach for=a number of
reasons.=AOFirst,the beach is not that easy to access.=AOOn=e has to descend a steep
cliff.=AOSecond,it is not a predominantly sandy =beach.=AOIt is comprised of some
sand,but =AOhas much larger patches of b=each with rocks of various sizes.=AO=AO Third,
it is not a safe beach for p=eople to use for swimming,as there are large rocks along
the shoreline =AO=that are hidden at high tide.=AOAlso,there can be a strong undertow.
=AOF=ourth,unlike the water at the dog beach in Long Beach,the water at the be=ach
below Trump golf course is clean.=AO All of these reasons make it a pe=rfect place for
dogs to be able to enjoy the water,as the piece of beach i=n question is not the kind of
prime,sandy beach that people seek out for t=anning,swimming,etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I urge the city council to please keep our four legged =family
members in their thoughts,as it considers what to do with this piec=e of
waterfront.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div>Cornelia Ber=nstein</div>
<div>3401 Mulldae Ave</div><div>San Pedro,CA =A090732</div><div>310-756-86=
80</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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ATTACHMENT F-196
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Peter Sun
From:william bernstein [bbernstein7@yahoo.com]
Sent:Tuesday,October 18,2011 10:53 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Beach under Trump Golf Course
Dear Sirs:
It has come to my attention that the city council is delilberating about what to do with the small
strip of beach beneath the Trump golf course.I would like to suggest that the beach be made a
beach where dogs can be off leash and swim.
The strip of beach in question is not really usable for people to sun themselves,as it is very
rocky,and the rocks in the water make swimming a hazard.There is often a strong undertow as
well.'.
There is only one beach in the area,Long Beach,where dogs are allowed to swim and the water
there is often unhealthful,due to the outside jetty,which prevents the tide from surging in and
out.It is also a 25 minute drive from the South Shores neighborhood where I live.
For these reasons,I urge you to consider making the beach an off leash area for dogs.
Thank you for your consideration,
William Bernstein,M.D.
3401 Mulldae Ave
San Pedro,Ca 90732
310-404-6118
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-197
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Peter Sun
From:Nancie Silver [nancies@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,January 20,2012 4:41 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Mona Dill'
SUbject:FW:Dog beach responses
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Attachments:Should Rancho Palos Verdes Beach be a dog beach.doc
Hi Katie,
Here you go ...
Nancie
From:Reception [mailto:Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,January 20,2012 3:33 PM
To:'Nancie Silver';'Mona Dill'
Subject:Dog beach responses
Here are some callers from Friday 1-20-12 regarding the potential dog beach.
-Shiva
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-198
Should Rancho·Palos Verdes Beach be a dog beach?
1/20/12 .;.
Susan Fitz Patrick ofRflE:Yes,a dog beach is essential!It is a beautiful beach I have
never had any problems with dog owners,·I ama dog owner myself,we are resppnsible
and pick up after our dogs.The dogs are friendly.This is much better than any dog park I
have been too..,
Kimberly Vargas of RPV:No;dogs should not be allowed.The dogs there are already
always offthe.leash;,the·owners are rude,and do not care what their·dogs do.I cannot
.enjoy lying on the beach,or picnicking.I had a dog jump on me and the owner did
nothing but laugh.There are already no boundariesthere;.it should not become a dog.
beach~.
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Brad Tapie of RPV:Yes,it is awesqme,it is wonderful!The dogs love it,I am all for it!
1/23/12
Judy Jones of San Pedro:Yes,I have been going there for years with various dogs,there
.are no problems there.Dogs on leaShes are territorial and can be troublesome;1 believe
they should be allowed to be off leash there..
1130/12
Savita Datta:No
1130/12
Barbara Ferraro,(Fotmer Mayor RPV)No,Please say no to dogs on beach.My
grandson was almost:bitten by a dog (not on leash).He was bumped by another on a
separate occasion!P~ople do not monitor their dogs.
ATTACHMENT F-199
Page 1 of2
Peter Sun
From:T P [tyronetyrony@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,January 26,20121:02 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog park?NO!
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Greetings,
Thank you for soliciting public opinion on
this is~ue.My opinion is a very strong NO.
Feces/urine on the beach,noisy,potential
fiscal liability etc are just a few of the issues
here.The pro dog people will tell you
otherwise,but beaches in California have a
long history of prohibiting dogs,and for
very good public policy reasons.My
neighbors think their dogs are
adorable ...meanwhile they bark excessively
( I contacted Animal Control and it has
abated somewhat),they bit another
neighbor (kind enough not to press
charges)on and on.People who own
nuisance dogs never want to see the facts,
so I am sure you will get lots of promises
from the pro-dog side.
The world has been turning just fine
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-200
Page 2 of2
without the proposed dog beach,and will be
just fine after this furor is past.
Again I say to you NO!on a dog beach.
Sincerely,
Tom Penland
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-201
..;,...-"Pdt~'Sun
Fro;~n:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Thank you,
Carolyn Lehr
City Manager
Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
Thursday,August 18,2011 6:45 PM
'Tom Odom';'Katie Howe'
FW:Trump Dog Beach
Follow up
Red
City of Ranc~o Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
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-----Original Message-----
From:Taryn Perry [mailto:tperry03@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 11:29 AM
To:CC@rpv .com
Subject:Trump Dog Beach
City Council:
It has come to my attention that the council is reviewing the use of the beach below Trump
National as "a Dog Beach.I am greatly dismayed that such an issue is being raised.This
has been a safe and fun place for community residents to bring their dogs and allow them
to just be dogs.I am not sure what has brought this issue before the council,but I
would think there are far more pressing issues throughout the Peninsula that would require
your attention.There is so much kelp in these waters that it is not attractive to use
this beach for human swimming,so I am wondering what the problem is here.
Many times in life and my career I have been frustrated by people telling me that things
are done a certain way because 'we have always done it that way.'This to me is short-
sighted.If there is an ordinance again keeping the beach a dog beach,change the
ordinance.Is this not why we have a city council to start with?Times change and so do
circumstances,therefore our ordinances have to adjust to the needs of those in the
community.This stretch of beach is secluded and the presence of a dog friendly beach
does not effect anyone in the area.
Many of us love out dogs,take exceptional care of them,have them properly trained and
respect the liberties we are given.It is not clear as to why this concern is arising,
but it appears to be completely unwarranted.
Please allow the Trump National section of Dog Beach to remain as it is.We all need a
happy place in life to go and get away from life'S hectic schedule.A place where we can
watch our best friends run,splash,play and make new friends with pure joy on their
faces.A true dog owner would understand these words.
Thank you for allowing my voice and opinion.
Sincerely,
1
ATTACHMENT F-202
T'inm,L Perry
ce,ll:(323)377-0085
Tperry03@yahoo.com
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'Peter Sun
From:Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 5:57 PM
To:'Tom Odom'
Cc:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:PV Dog Beach
Thank you,
Ccur~V\I Lehr
City Manager
o City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
clehr@rpv.com·(310)544-5202
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Thank you for your assistance and cooperation.
From:RayJudy Green [mallto:rayjudygreen@sbcglobal.net]
sent:Thursday,August 18,2011 4:30 PM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:PV_Dog Beach
Dear Members of the City Council,
I wanted to express my support for an "official"dog beach near Trump Golf Club.
Unfortunately,dog beaches are few are far between and I know many dog owners who will drive
considerable distances to let their water loving dog(s)romp in the ocean.The geographical
limitations make this location ideal for a dog beach and my observation is that the vast majority
of the people who take the "hike"to/from the beach are there for their dogs.There are plenty of
beaches close by with easy access -this is not!
I think that most people who care this much about their dog's happiness are generally responsible
and caring.Yes,there will occasionally be the missed "accident",but most dog owners I know
will pick it up,regardless ofwhether or not their dog was the culprit,lest it be ruined for
everyone.
We have a unique location that has functioned beautifully as an "unofficial"dog beach for
several years.Making it official will only enable more to enjoy it.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-204
Page 2 of2
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Judy Green
P .S.-I'm against banning certain breeds.Anyone who brings an aggressive dog to a public place is an
idiot waiting for a lawsuit -regardless of the dog's breed.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-205
Page 1 of2
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From:Tom Odom [tomo@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 01,2011 2:55 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Green
TomA.Odom
Deputy Director,Department of Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310 ..544-5335
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From:Joel Rojas [mailto:joelr@rpv.com]
sent:Thursday,september 01,2011 10:57 AM
To:'Elisa Tarlow'
Cc:'carolynn Petru';'carolyn Lehr';'Tom Odom'
Subject:RE:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Dear Elisa
You email was received by the City's Planning Commission which is not involved with the decision on this
issue.Thus,I have forwarded your email to the City Manager's office and the Recreation and Parks
Department.
Joel Rojas
From:Elisa Tarlow [mailto:elisaelisa@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,september 01,201110:48 AM
To:pc@rpv.com
Subject:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Dear City of RPV,
I just heard that the city may shut down the dog friendly activities of this beach.I grew up in
Palos Verdes and when I was young we would take our dog everywhere without a word,the
cliffs,the beach,trails,etc.Now,there are very few places where dogs and their families can
enjoy themselves together.
Everyone I have seen at the beach is friendly and thoughtful.The area is not close to houses
where it might disturb someone.Please do not take away the dog friendly nature of this beach.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-206
Thank you.for your consideration,
Elisa Tarlow
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-207
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Peter Sun
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From:Carolyn Lehr [clehr@rpv.com]
A
Sent:Monday,August 22,2011 9:41 AM
To:'Tom Odom';'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach at Trump
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Thank you,
Caro-0'V\I Lih.Y
City Manager
D City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
clehr@rpv.com •(310)544·5202
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Thank you for your assistance and cooperation.
From:Jennifer Chappell [mailto:jchap55@gmail.com]
sent:Sunday;August 21,2011 8:24 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach at Trump
I am writing in support of changing existing City policy to allow dogs off-leash at Trump Beach.
I believe this is a terrific alternative to a local dog park for a few reasons.
1.Changing the regulations at Trump Beach is an inexpensive way to have a "dog park"
which will hopefully free up City resources to focus on another proposed project I think
our growing families need - a skate park.
2.Trump beach has unofficially been used in this way for several years,so it wouldn't be a
huge transition to make it official.
3.If it means the difference between a "yes"or "no"vote,I would be in favor of having
specific days or hours set aside to allow dogs off-leash.It is a better alternative than no
space/time at all,and I believe this is something our community is lacking.
Thanks for your consideration,
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-208
'.I..-
Jennifer Chappell
1808 Paseo Del Mar
Palos Verdes Estates,CA 90274
310-418-8280
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-209
Pag~1 ofl
Peter Sun
.._------_.----
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com)
Sent:Thursday,August 25,2011 8:48 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Pizano-Supports
Teresa Pizano,RPV resident called to voice her support an off-leash dog beach below Trump National.
She has been taking her dog here for 4 years.She thinks it's a great asset to have a dog beach so close,
and she has never had a bad incident at the beach.She tends to visit the beach about 3 times each
week and rarely sees families there.She believes fewer families visit the beach because of the difficult
access.If visitors are complaining about a smell at the beach,they may be smelling seaweed,and not
dog waste, because her experience is that about 90%of visitors with dogs clean up after their pets,and
she,among other visitors with pets,will clean up after others who do not because they value having the
dog beach.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-210
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Peter Sun
---------------------------------------------
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 29,2011 7:41 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Woodcock -supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Blue
Debra Woodcock,Rancho Palos Verdes resident called August 26 to share her support of a dog beach
below Trump National Golf Course.She is a dog owner,and supports a dog park in addition to a dog
beach.She mentioned that Rancho Palos Verdes is not dog-friendly,especially when compared to other
cities such as Santa Barbara.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-211
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Peter Sun ----_._-._--_.._.__._---_..~----._-_._------------_.-
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,August 29,2011 8:45 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:Cook -supports
Ellen Cook is a PVE resident.She thinks it's really healthy for dogs to have their own space.She said the
dogs are "good little citizens"and owners are good about picking up after their dogs.Ellen also feels that
it is just a good use of the space.
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-212
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Frcm:f Tom Odom [tomo@rpv.com]
•.f
Sent:Thursday,September 01,2011 2:55 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Green
Tom A.Odom
Deputy Director,Department of Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310,.544-5335-------._._----.._----
From:Joel Rojas [mailto:joelr@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,September 01,2011 10:57 AM
To:'Elisa Tarlow'
Cc:'Carolynn Petru';'Carolyn Lehr';'Tom Odom'
Subject:RE:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Dear Elisa
You email was received by the City's Planning Commission which is not involved with the decision on this
issue.Thus,I have forwarded your email to the City Manager's office and the Recreation and Parks
Department.
Joel Rojas
From:Elisa Tarlow [mailto:elisaelisa@yahoo.com]
sent:Thursday,september 01,201110:48 AM
To:pc@rpv.com
Subject:Beach by Trump Golf Course
Dear City ofRPV,
I just heard that the city may shut down the dog friendly activities of this beach.I grew up in
Palos Verdes and when I was young we would take our dog everywhere without a word,the
cliffs,the beach,trails,etc.Now,there are very few places where dogs and their families can
enjoy themselves together.
Everyone I have seen at the beach is friendly and thoughtful.The area is not close to houses
where it might disturb someone.Please do not take away the dog friendly nature of this beach.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-213
:Thank Y01}for your consideration,
Elisa Tarlow
2/6/2012
Page 2 of2
ATTACHMENT F-214
Page 1 of3
Peter Sun
From:Charles Agnew [cvagnew@cox.net]
Sent:Sunday,January 29,20127:31 PM
To:'EZStevens';cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:'Greg Pfost';'Asst.City Manager Carolynn Petru:';'RPV Planning';emiliob@rpv.com
Subject:RE:No Dog Park Beach in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
I fully concur.
Charles Agnew
32261 Phantom Dr.
RPV,CA90275
From:EZStevens [mailto:ezstevens@cox.net]
Sent:Saturday,January 28,20126:19 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:Greg Pfost;Asst.City Manager Carolynn Petru:;RPV Planning;emiliob@rpv.com
Subject:No Dog Park Beach in RPV
Subject:No Dog Park Beach in RPV
Parks and Recreation and RPV City Council,
I am writing to convey my strong disapproval of the dog park (on the beach)being considered
adjacent to the Trump National Golf Course.
1.I am concerned not only for the safety and wellbeing for those that would visit the dog park,
but for those that pay dues at the nearby PBC beach where little children play and often walk
beyond that private beach to the soft sand area just below the rocks.The soft sand area is where
the dog park is being considered.It is a rare stretch ofland in RPV where the public and RPV
residents can enjoy putting their toes in the water and not having to contend with big rocks.I do
not want RPV residents and visitors to have to worry about being in such a beautiful setting and
having to side-step and risk stepping into dog defecation.Time and time again,I see dogpoo
even though the Trump National walking paths are so nicely equipped with doggie bags for
poop.Why would one think the beach just below,will be different?
Who is responsible?Who cleans up and at whose expense if owners do
not pick up their dog's waste?Who is monitoring the owners and at
whose expense?
2.I am concerned for the public and the city with regards to legal rights and upholding their
obligations should someone be bitten or injured by a dog.
3.There is a dog park with a spectacular view up by the Museum at Friendship park in San
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-215
Page 2 of3..
Pedro,less than three miles away.I do not feel it is necessary to have another dog park when one is
nearby.Additionally,the following list are dog parks locally,not taking into account the many dog
parks in Los Angeles.
Huntington Beach Dog Beach
On Pacific Coast Highway between 21st St.and Seapoint St.;100 Goldenwest St.,92648.Open 5 a.m.
to 8 p.m.daily.Dogs may be off-leash in the water and on the wet sand --three ,quarters of a mile long.
Malibu·Leo Carrillo State Beach
This state beach allows leashed dogs.The only restriction is that they are not allowed between towers
two and three (the busiest part of the beach).Go North on PCH towards Oxnard until you get to El
Matador and Leo Carillo State Beaches.818/706-1310
Huntington Beach·Best Friend Dog Park
At Central Park;Edwards @ Inlet;92648;714/536-5672;1.5 acres.Separate small dog area for pooches
under 25 Ibs.and tbr older or handicapped dogs.Dawn to dusk.
Long Beach·Downtown Dog Park
Broadway @ Pacific Ave.within Lincoln Park.The park opened in September and has been serving the
needs of downtown residents and their dogs and re-energizing a historic open space in our downtown
civic center.The park has spaces for both large and small dogs,benches for owners,free doggie waste
bags and double entrance and exit gates.
Long Beach -K·9 Comer
At the comer of 9th &Pacific.Solar powered and completely off the grid,native plants,sloped
irrigation,faux grass and recycled materials all wrapped into a contemporary design.Includes doggie
water fountain.Very small "pocket park"lot on the comer,in a neighborhood.
Long Beach·Recreation Dog Park
5201 E.7th St.@ Park Ave.inside Recreation Park.Almost two acres of off-leash play space,including
a fenced areajust for small dogs.The park is well-lit and open until 10 p.m.daily.
Long Beach·Uptown Dog Park
On the Long Beach Blvd.side of Scherer Park,4600 Long Beach Blvd.The dog area is near picnic
tables and a nearby parking lot.More dog parks may be planned as residents see the benefits of creating
safe,fun areas for dogs to run and play in City parks.The Uptown Dog Park also provides separate areas
for small and large dogs to playoff leash.The fenced area is located near picnic areas and a parking lot.
Long Beach·Wrigley Heights Dog Park
3401 Golden Ave,1.9 acres,6am -lOpm,daily,
Park may be closed Mondays before noon for maintenance.The dog park accommodates dogs with an
entry/vestibule area for unleashing or holding dogs when entering or leaving the dog park section.
Existing mulch will make up the surface material,the perimeter and division of the site will be identified
by painted chain link fencing,and existing trees will provide shade.Dog pick-up bags,separate trash
receptacles,benches and a water fountain will be made available.
Redondo Beach Dog Park
200 Flagler Lane;within the 23 acre Dominguez Park,at the comer of 190th Street and Flagler Lane.
Fenced,benches,tables,handicap access,pickup bags,trees,parking,telephones,lights,restrooms,
...
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-216
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water,trashcans,shelter;separate fenced area for little dogs.
4.Our city is small and what population we have,most residents live in homes with yards.Those that
don't have a yard,there are beautiful parks where they can walk and have fun with their dogs when
leashed or if they wish to run with their dogs they can take their dogs to the parks listed above.
P.1ease do not make that beautiful beach a dog playground,
let's keep it pristine for the PEOPLE who live in and visit
RPV.
Edward Z Stevens
Conqueror Dr..
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2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-217
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Peter Sun
From:HAW QUAN [pvquan@verizon.net]
Sent:Sunday,January 29,20123:15 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Dogs on RPV Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Weare oppose to dogs on beaches period,whether on leash or not.
Dogs not on leash is worst.Irresponsible dog owners make it worst for others.One
such owner can min a perfect day's outing for many.
Weare residents of RPV for over 40 years and have enjoyed the many trails and
beaches..
Norman and Helen Quan
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-218
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
septover@cox.net
Sunday,January 29,2012 6:48 AM
parks@rpv.com
dog beach below Trump's
Follow up
Yellow
I oppose placing this beach here because it is is not that accessible,I think there
would be too many injuries and who is going to police it and clean up?
Chonita Holmes
..
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ATTACHMENT F-219
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Peter Sun
From:Debra Dykstra [h20wize1@verizon.net]
Sent:Monday,January 30,201210:31 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Please keep it going
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear RPV City Council,
A tax paying resident of RPV asks you to please,please, please,keep the Trump area as is.
Been going t~this beach regularly and have ~seen a negative event.Dogs are friendly,people are
responsible and people know what a rare gift this is both to people and four legged friends.People,
neighbors socialize here while monitoring their pets.You can tell people do pick up after themselves
and their pets by the trash containers that are used on way in/out of the areas.
This is a complete heaven and haven for pet owners who routinely have to pen up their pets during
working hours.Just as we need to stretch our legs and take a deep breath of fresh air -so do our pets.
The terrain is perfect as a dog beach as not a IItypical beach"sought out by tourists.It is a fairly rough
beach with not a lot of great sand space and can be too rough for swimmers -hidden rocks etc.
It is a PERFECT LOCATION FOR SAFETYI ........Dogs are safe from cars,...people are safe as not a regular
walking path or biking area such as the strand.Area essentially adds safety as it contains pets from
accessing neighborhoods,streets,bike paths,and keeps dogs contained.It's as nearly fenced as you can
get by the terrain itself.Area really is not the greatest area for kids either -rough water and steeper
trails make it more user friendly to adults (&doggies).There is also -no noise issues here with a happy
dog barking at the waves.
Area could easily be marked at the paths,so people are aware before entering the beach that dogs may
be present.-if they do not like or fear dogs,this area could be easily be avoided by those that do not
wish to be around or near dogs.
Recommendations:
•Post area as a dog friendly area (so people are informed and not surprised when entering beach
area -they can avoid area if they are not comfortable)
•Dogs leashed entering and existing area away from beach.
•Ensure bags and trash containers avail.
Please note -we have exceptionally few places we can enjoy the outdoors with beloved and deserving
pets.Keeping dogs balanced and friendly means getting them outdoors,time for activity,and
socializing.Dogs need a little space off leash to chase a ball more than 5 feet or go swimming more than
a bathtub's distance.Let's all stretch our legs a little here in this relatively small,remote area,safely
away from cars,streets,and houses in this naturally fenced area.
Note:We are hardworking taxpaying adults and some of us have no kids -our pets are our kids.We
take care of them,we clean up after them,we supervise them,we insist they are friendly,and we'd like
i
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-220
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to ensure they have tiny little space their own too.There are lots of parks and playgrounds already provided for
our little people and family picnics.This remote relatively inaccessible area is ideal space for dog friendly.
Resident -Taxpayer
Rancho Palos Verdes
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-221
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Home [armanramezani@me.com]
Monday,January 30,2012 3:06 PM
parks@rpv.com
Trump Dog Beach
Follow up
Yellow
Hello,
Please keep the Trump Beach dog friendly so our friendly dogs can enjoy a good leash-free
run.If needed designate days for dogs to be on or off the leash.Thank you for the
consideration.
Arman Ramezani
RPV Resident
Sent from my iPhone..
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ATTACHMENT F-222
Peter Sun
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 01,20128:32 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
SUbject:FW:Dog Beach 2
From:Connie Anderson [mailto:connie.anderson@lacity.org]
Sent:Monday,January 30,2012 12:20 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Hello ...and thanks for asking for input on proposed off-leash dog beach.
YES,YES,YES!!!!Wonderful idea.I live in Torrance and would love to have a LEGAL,
off-leash dog beach to take my dog to.The trails along the bluffs in RPV are a tremendous
benefit to the community.Having a legal dog beach would only add to the appeal.
Sincerely,
Connie Anderson
Torrance resident
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-223
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Peter Sun
From:Christina Sutherland [christina.sutherland@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,January 31,201210:45 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Family name -Tom and Christina Sutherland living in RPV
Thank you for providing an opportunity to give feedback.
We use the Trump dog beach regularly.Since this is the only beach of its kind where a dog can be
walked and let off leash we are very much in favor of the city maintaining the beach as it is now.We
enjoy our watk~there often as a family very much.The beach provides an area for our dog to learn to
socialize with other dogs and was very important for her as a puppy since this was a primary source of
playing.Now my 17 year old daughter will meet other friends (who also live in RPV)with dogs there
which makes it a nice safe activity for the city's youth to be engaged in.
Since it is a rocky beach it is not conducive to sunbathing or a lot of other activities.There are many
other beaches in the community and surrounding it that offer a place for sunbathing and other beach
activities.
We would feel that it would be a loss to the community should dogs not be allowed on this beach or be
required to be restrained.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-224
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Peter Sun
From:Terry Fredrickson [terrylfred@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,January 31 J 2012 11 :54 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Cc:Terry Fredrickson
SUbject:Palos Verdes Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear City Council:
I am writing to encourage you to give the OK to having a dog beach in Palos Verdes.There are not a lot
of places where dogs are allowed to be off leash so it is important that we get some areas that are legal
for this type of activity...
I love taking my Brittany Spaniel,Daphne,to dog parks and the dog beach in Long Beach.As a resident
of Rancho Palos Verdes,I would love to see a dog park and dog beach available in my own city.
Thank you for your time and consideration regarding this matter.
Sincerely,
Terry Fredrickson
2302 Colt Road
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-225
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Peter Sun
From:James Dibbo Dames.dibbo@gmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday,January 31,20124:44 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Palos Verdes Beach Consultation
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to express a view in response to requests for comments on future uses of the RPV
beach at the Trump.
I am a resideJ)t of RPV and my family and I have used the beach for a number of years to
walk our dog,Charlie.For me it is one of the great pleasures of living on the Peninsula to be
able to take him to the beach and have him run around off the leash.There is nowhere else I
know like it.I have never been quite sure whether it was allowed but have always operated on
the basis that so long as we behaved responsibly then it seemed to be ok -plus I think the
ambiguity has meant that only those who really trust their dogs to behave have used it.I have
visited at all times of day and months of the year and always been impressed by the behavior of
owners and their pets -apart from a few irresponsible owners who do not clean up after their
pets.I have also seen great example of peer pressure and self-regulation when dogs do not
behave.I have never seen any person or dog bitten or frightened.
I was therefore most concerned to see posters implying that dogs may no longer be able to use
the beach in this way.If the change of ownership from Trump to the City of RPV results in
restrictions on the use of the beach then this would be a huge loss.
I for one do not see why the use of the beach has to change.I am a strong believer in 'if it ain't
broke,don't fix it'.The fact that it is an unofficial dog beach is what makes it work so well.If it
was well known that dogs were allowed on the beach without leashes this would attract people
from outside the area to use it and potentially lead to more irresponsible owners and out of
control pets being present.It is perfect how it is.Please please do not change it.There are
many miles of dog free,raked and manicured beach in the South Bay and there is also Abalone
Cove for those who like the beach a bit more rustic but still dog free.Trump Beach (as my
family refer to it)is a unique well loved asset for RPV.Please do not allow the modern
obsession for regulation and health and safety to spoil it for those of us who love it so much.
Recognizing the reality that the City will almost inevitably feel the need to impose rules,then I
would like the beach to allow dogs off leash but try not to let it become known more Widely as
an official dog beach.Perhaps a system of permits available only to City/Peninsula residents
could work?
Please keep me informed of the ideas and comments.Please don't allow the beach to be
ruined.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-226
Yours faithfully
James Dibbo
Joanne Dibbo
Amelia Dibbo
Alice Dibbo
Charlie (the dog)Dibbo
30379 Camino Porvenir
Rancho Palos Verdes
2/6/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-227
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Peter Sun
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,January 31,2012 5:38 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tracy Bonano'
Subject:FW:dogs on beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
From:PVBRISTOL@aol.com [mailto:PVBRISTOL@aol.com]
sent:Tuesday,January 31,2012 4:09 PM
To:cc@rpv.ct>m
Subject:re:dogs on beach
Dear City Council:
I am writing to encourage you to give the OK to having a dog beach in Palos Verdes.There are
not a lot of places where dogs are allowed to be offleash so it is important that we get some
areas that are legal for this type of activity.
I don't take my dog down to the beach but love watching the dogs play with the surf,other
dogs and generally enjoy themselves.As long as the dog owners pick up the dog droppings
and there are no dog fights I don't see a problem..
Also,City Council,I'm not sure why you are considering New Zealand Christmas trees at the
end of the Trump Driving Range.Wouldn't a short hedge be a much more sensible solution
and less view obstruction for the people who live on the hill?It seems to me that is more
important than the aesthetics of the few people using the driving range on Trump property.
Thank:you for your time and consideration regarding this matter.
Sincerely,
Kathleen Pappo
2762 Vista Mesa Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
(310)831-5295
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-228
Katie Howe
From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 01,20124:36 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tracy Bonano'
Subject:FW:Dogs at Trump
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:Kollar [mailto:rjkollar@cox.net]
sent:Wednesday,February 01,2012 4:05 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dogs at Trump'
Let the dogs run!
We do not have a dog but walk this beach often and love the freedom that the dogs AND their
owners have.This is NOT a swimming beach and there are rarely any sunbathers...it is too rustic
and too hard to get to.Let the responsible dog owners and their dogs enjoy this beautiful
environment!
Thanks,
Janice &Bob Kollar
Coolheights Drive,RPV
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-229
Katie Howe
From:Iittlestarsmgmt@gmail.com on behalf of Artistic Endeavors-Annet [annet@ArtisticEndeavors.tv]
Sent:Thursday,February 02,20129:25 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Yes,I think-dog beach should remain as it is.My kids ages 5 and 8 love to spend weekends
there.It is their favorite spot on earth it seems-and the most requested.The dog loves to run with
other dogs and the boys love to play in the tide pools.Last Sunday we stayed for over 5 hours
and they still wanted to stay.I have not seen any dog feces there and owners seem to be very
diligent cleaning up after their dogs-we also see very rarely that dogs even relive themselves
there.I think most owners have them do their business on the walk way down to the beach,
which looks very clean.It seems that the dogs and kids are playing fine side to side and we have
never seen any incident or aggressive large dogs.We have a very friendly German
Shepard/Rottweiler mix who is offleach there just like 99%of all other dogs at dog beach.It's a
special place and you see mainly families with small kids,puppies as well as large dogs and their
owners having a great time.
We live in Lomita Pines.
Kindly,
Annet McCroskey
ARTISTIC ENDEAVORS
Phone 310-326-0323
Fax 310-531-7428
www.ArtisticEndeavors.TV
First Vice President
Talent Managers Association
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-230
Katie Howe
From:George or Jeanne Daley [daley2ctpt@msn.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 02,201210:08 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Ranch Palos Verdes Beach Dog Allowance
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
RPV City Council,
With many owners of large and small dogs in the area it would nice to have a place for them to roam free
on the beach.SocialiZing and exercising is very beneficial to a dog.They have less anxiety,barking and
destructive behavior in the absences of the dog owner when a routine walk,play or exercise is done.
Responsible dog owners always pickup after their dogs.Having a trash recepitical for the waste would be
needed.This area wouldn't interfere with the public knOWing this is a designated area for unleashed
dogs.
I'm very much in favor of this proposition.
Thank you for your consideration.
Jeanne Daley
Torrance,ca.
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-231
<atie Howe
From:Jelski,J.(Julie)Uulie.jelski@cetera.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 02,201212:56 PM
To:parls@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
My name is julie Jelski,I am a resident of Torrance Ca and I would LOVE to see a dog beach in PV similar
to the one in Orange County.Their dog beach is a huge success and I believe it's in part by the city
providing the doggy waste bags &having plenty of trash cans along with signs on good owner behavior,
picking up after your pet,etc.It is an absolute joy to watch the dogs play in the water and we would
encourage PV to be a dog friendly community and approve the dog beach!
Thank you!
Julie Jelski
310-516-1847
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ATTACHMENT F-232
Katie Howe
From:Coastal Property Management [coastaUlroperty@yahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 02,2012 1:01 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:No Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
RPV Parks,
Writing to express preference for no dogs at RPV beach.It is always over-run by dogs
and the unsanitary stuff that they leave behind.There are really not that many beach
options at all on this side of the Hill,prefer no dogs at all!
Thanks,
Mark Panetta .
Rancho Palos Verdes
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-233
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
jessica Dessboop@cox.net]
Thursday,February 02,2012 3:05 PM
parks@rpv.com;CC@rpv.com
beach dog park
Follow up
Completed
There aren't any good reasons for making RPV beach or any beach an official dog park.
However,there are lots of solid reasons why this is not a good idea:
1.People do not clean up after their animals.(I witness this
everyday!)
2.When the tides change the "dog poop"floats out into the
ocean,pollutihg our oceans,and polluting our precious tidepools!,or,
3.The tides comes in and out and the "poop"gets buried in the
sand and sometimes entwined with the seaweed.
4.No 1,2,and 3 smell and when the sun hits the beach,the
smell worsens.
5.There is no one to monitor "poop"cleanup.
6.By making this a legal dog park,the children that play on
this beach will be in danger of being bitten,and walking in POOp!
Normally dog parks have fenced off areas to play separately from children.
7.It seems that the motive for making this beach an official "dog park"is because
of the over abundance of tickets given to people who for years have brought their dogs to
the beach as the people walk along the beach.A good remedy for an official notice might
be:a)not to announce this as an "official dog beach",b)do not put up signs notifying
people that their is an "official dog beach",c)do not ticket people (just ignore the
dogs on the beach ..unless the dogs on the beach gets out of control.)
Sometimes less control is better than more.If you don't announce this,or try to control
this ..maybe the beach will be just as it was before;a casual stroll or run with your pet.
I am,however,for a dog park,maybe an open piece of land not near anyone group of homes
which would be built with dog runs and jumps,and training facilities where people can,if
they want,bring their dogs to play together,or just to run.A good example of a great
dog park is the one by Santa Monica Airport.Please check it out.Take your dog,or your
neighbors!
Thank you for listening.
1
ATTACHMENT F-234
Katie Howe
From:NOEL PARK [noel@jdcorvette.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 02,2012 4:46 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach -Ad In Today's Breeze
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Noel Park .
6715 EI rodeo Road
Rancho Palos Verdes 90275
(562)413-5147 cell
(310)377-4035 home
In response to the above,I am opposed to having the beach adjacent to the Trump facility become a "dog
beach".I am a dog owner,and I walk my dog almost every day.But I am totally uncomfortable with
letting my dog run off leash,and equally uncomfortable when others do so.There is a reason why we
have a leash law in Rancho Palos Verdes.And I won't even bore you with my concerns about sanitation
issues.
The beach is a public asset,and I can assure you that I won't be going there if people are allowed to let
their dogs run around loose.And I'm sure I'm not alone.
Since you asked,I am opposed.Thanks for asking.
"
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-235
Katie Howe
From:Amanda Montano [meowmontano2@yahoo.com]
Sent:Friday,February 03,20122:48 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Palos Verdes dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
To whom it-may concern,
This is in reponse to the sign posted at the Palos Verdes Beach by the Trump golf course.
My name is Amanda Montano and I moved to Redondo Beach last year.My 2 dogs and I love to
visit the Palos Verdes beach on the weekends and we hope that the city will continue to allow us
to enjoy this great area.We have never encountered any risky dog or owner behavior on this
beach,which is why we love to go here.The pet owners that visit the area are all very conscious
ofkeeping the beach and the path clean.The dogs enjoy being off the leash and seem to know
that it is a special area,and that they need to remain in good behavior.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Amanda Montano
meowmontano2@yahoo.com
310-989-1281
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-236
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Feb.3,2012
bahhoff@cox.net
Saturday,February 04,2012 6:53 PM
cc@rpv.com;Parks@rpv.com
Trump Dog Beach
Follow up
Completed
To Whom It May Concern:
Re:Trump Dog Beach
I am writing concerning the negative impact on the community for the proposed dog park on
the beach below the Trump Resort.I live in the community and walk this beach almost on a
daily basis.I have seen this beach change from a quiet,RPV beach to a beach used by dog
owners from throughout Southern California.This beach is now mass chaos with hundreds
of dogs running wild on the beach and in the water.Today I stopped a man wearing a
Huntington Beach Dog Beach sweatshirt and asked why he was here.He said he found our
beach on the web and wanted to try a new area with his dog.I asked another woman why she
had her dog on a leash when the other 50 dogs were unleashed.She say she had been trying
to train her dog not to eat the dog feces on this beach.I know of incidents where
children and adults have been knocked down by large dogs and also several incidents of
dog biting.This area is also unsafe for children from a health point of view as they can
not play on the beach without incurring feces or urine.
As our elected representatives,I ask you to visit the beach.Pick a nice weekend day
and see if you think this area is safe and whether this is what we want for our community.
There are no toilets on the beach for humans,no enforcement of leash laws,no preventing
dogs from entering the ocean in violation of state law,no protection of bird life,ocean
life and the habitat.AND CERTAINLY NO LAW ENFORCEMENT.We choose to have Rangers in the
Conservancy area where violations are few,but we have none on this beach where violations
are many.The City has also not employed lifeguards in this area.The City has created
by their non enforcement of laws a beach which is drawing people from throughout Los
Angeles and yet the city is ignoring the possibility of loss of life due to known ocean
riptides.
By sanctioning or by just sticking our heads in the sand,I belief we are leaving the City
of RPV and thus ourselves open to a variety of law suits,not the least of which would be
that by the City sanctioning this area,the City has now become liable for all damages
occurred therein--like dog bites,alcohol abuse,assaults and drownings.
Please RECONSIDER;
Please ENFORCE THE LAW;
Please ACT PRUDENTLY TO SAVE US FROM LAWSUITS Please PROTECT OUR HEALTH,WELFARE,AND THE
ENVIRONMENT.
Very sincerely,
Bruce Hoffman
101 Spindrift Dr.
Rancho Palos Verdes,Ca.90275
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ATTACHMENT F-237
Katie Howe
From:leanna rivera [ljrivera04@gmail.com]
Sent:Saturday,February 04,2012 9:12 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Fwd:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status;Completed
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From:leanna riovera <1irivera04@gmail.com>
Date:February 4,20129:09:37 AM PST
To:"katieh@r.pv.com"<katieh@r.pv.com>
Subject:Dog beach
We love going to the beach under trump golf course!We love it!It's a great place
to picnic with friends &family -&dogs are family tool Please keep it as we live in
long beach but our family lives in Rivera Village &we have so many great
memories!Thanks for listeningl LeAnna Rivera -Long Beach
Sent from my iPhone
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-238
Katie Howe
From:Youko Amemiya [tomo.ahimsa@sbcglobal.net]
Sent:Saturday,February 04,20128:13 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:PV Beach be a dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
My name is"Y ouko and I am a resident of San Pedro,bordering very closely to PV.I heard about
the consideration ofPV beach becoming an off-leash dog beach.I occasionally take my 2 dogs
out for walks in that area and would truly appreciate it officially becoming a dog beach.It does
not have to be a huge among of area,maybe 1/2 a mile,just enough for the pooches to run
around and mingle with the water and other dogs.There are so many natural areas in PV.I
understand that some people are uncomfortable around off-leash dogs.If this beach can be
designated for dogs,it would centralize off-leash opportunities to one location.
Thank you for your consideration.
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-239
Katie Howe
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From:ajay3000@aol.com
Sent:Sunday,February 05,20121:33 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Should RPV Beach be a dog beach?YES!I have walked there and would be even more motivated to
take my dogs if it becomes an off-leash dog beach.
Diedre E.Burke
Carson,CA
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-240
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Marcella Lemke
From:Michael Sax [mwsax90@hotmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,201210:42 AM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach Project Manager
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Dear Dog Beach Project Manager,
I am 21 years old and raised in Rancho Palos Verdes.I love dogs and have owned them as pets;
however,I also love the clean beaches of RPV including RPV Beach.Since a great number of people
discovered RPV Beach,I have seen it become littered and disrespected by many users.Trash,unpicked-
up animal feces,and destruction of tide pools are some of the acts that are becoming more frequent.
Therefore,I am opposed to RPV Beach becoming a sanctioned dog beach.
Thank you for your time,
Michael Sax
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-241
Marcella Lemke
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Wednesday,February 08,20124:50 PM
parks@rpv.com
FW:unofficial dog park at trumps
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:carol wirth [mailto:cjwirth@aol.coml
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,2012 9:39 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:unofficial dog park at trumps
i am strongly ln favor of continuing this practice as there is no dog park in rpv,plus it
offers a nice hike for everyone involved.
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ATTACHMENT F-242
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Marcella Lemke
From:Charles Foster [hc_foster@hotmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 08,201210:57 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dogs at Rancho Palos Verdes I Trump Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Greetings:
I am writing first to thank you for soliciting community feedback regarding enforcement of leash laws at
Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.My wife and I also appreciate that since acquiring the beach,the city has
taken a posture of observing and collecting data rather than rushing to enforce existing ordinances.
We've been enjoying the beach below Trump Golf Course for years.We are regular visitors to the beach
with our small terrier Baxter.We find the environment there to be wonderful and unique •.•as does our
dog.We've found other visitors to the beach (and their dogs)to be friendly and responsible.People have
been doing a fine job of picking up after themselves and their pets (unlike other less accessible beaches
on the Peninsula where trash and graffiti left by fishermen and others has become increasingly pervasive
over the years).
The presence of dog waste bag dispensers,as well as the trashcans,at the parking lot,along the trails,
and at the top of the bluffs is most appreciated and I believe contributes to the cleanliness at the beach.
I really don't have any suggestions for improvements,just a request that you continue to leave the beach
open to dogs and that the leash law is relaxed for this area.
Thank you for providing such a wonderful array of parklands!
Regards,
Charles and Edessa Foster
Palos Verdes Estates,CA
Charles Foster
hc foster@hOtmail.com
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-243
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Marcella Lemke
From:Richard Keeling [rkeeling@socal.rr.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,20128:27 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:No dogs please
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Please see below.
......................................................................
Richard Keeling
20538 Arnie Avenue
Torrance,CA 9p503
310-370-4823
rkeeling@socal.rr.com........................................................................
From:Richard Keeling [mailto:rkeeling@socal.rr.com]
sent:Thursday,February 09,20127:50 AM
To:'parks@prv.com'
Subject:No dogs please
In response to your query:Having dogs would ruin the beach for everyone except the dog owners,who
are collectively perhaps the most selfish and inconsiderate interest group in our society.There will be
dog excrement under foot,there will be dogs chasing across peoples space,there will be dogs barking or
biting people.Then the owners will say:Oh don't be afraid,he won't hurt you.They love to see that
other people are intimidated by their animals and frequently choose animals with aggressive
temperaments that make them (the owners)feel tough.They slobber,poop,and piss all over
everything.No dogs pleasel
.......................................................................
Richard Keeling
20538 Arnie Avenue
Torrance,CA 90503
310-370-4823
rkeeling@socal.rr.com........................................................................
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-244
Marcella Lemke
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Thursday,February 09,2012 2:20 PM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog beach (10)
-----Original Message-----
From:Tycanne Arceri [mailto:tycanne®me.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 11:13 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
Hi,
I would be very interested in having an off leash dog beach in the south bay.
I live in Redondo Beach and my dog loves the park.
We have taken him to San Simeon and he loves it.
Thank you,
Tycanne Arceri
Sent from my iPhone
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ATTACHMENT F-245
Marcella Lemke
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From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 2:20 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach (9)
---------------
From:Debbie Steffe -Anchor Point [mailto:debbie@anchorpointmtg.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 11:20 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
I am in favor of a dog beach in Rancho Palos Verdes which should include dogs off-leash.
Debbie Steffe
Palos Verdes Estates
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-246
Marcella Lemke
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Thursday,February 09,2012 2:12 PM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach (8)
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:Carolynn Petru [mailto:carolynn@rpv.coml
Sent:Monday,January 16,2012 9:00 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach
-----Original Message-----
From:David Meffert [mailto:meffdesign@mac.coml
Sent:Friday,January 13,2012 5:49 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
This test dog beach is a complete failure.
Its time to either post regulation or guards to make sure something bad
doesn't happen.
I believe it would be the city of RPV that is responsible for damages.
Don't fail your city or it residence.
Fix this problem.
David Meffert
Sea View Estates
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ATTACHMENT F-247
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Marcella Lemke
From:trude.helfrich@tema.toyota.com
Sent:Thursday,February 09,20127:29 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:RPV Dog Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hi,
I live in West Torrance and every weekend I enjoy walking the trails around the Whale Watching area with
my 2-Beagles.
I think it would be great if you would allow dogs on the beach off-leash,they just love to run off-leash.
And although I am a responsible dog owner,pick up (poop)after my dogs,I know some people will not do
this.But,please don't let the few spoil it for the rest of us.
Sincerely,
Trude
Trude Helfrich
Torrance,CA
1.310.489.6798
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-248
Marcella Lemke
From:Gary Huffman [garyhuffman560@aol.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 9:11 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:RPV Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
As a responsible owner of two Lab mix dogs,I love the idea of a local dog beach.
Long Beach is too far and the location is restrictive for dogs to run &swim relatively freely.
The Redondo Dog Park is nice for exercise,but no water for swimmers like mine.
This kind of outdoor activity gets us away from the TV and video games,etc.
I would be happy to pay for parking or a nominal fee of some kind to help offset city costs.
Thank You for your consideration,
Gary Huffman
Torrance
2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-249
Marcella Lemke
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Peter Tseng [pct8888@gmail.com]
Thursday,February 09,201212:23 PM
parks@rpv.com
eglamonte@cox.net
Dog Beach in RPV
Follow up
Yellow
To Whom it may concern,
I saw your ad in the Daily Breeze soliciting op~n~ons regarding a possible Dog Beach in
RPV.I would be highly in favor of this option.
Peter Tseng
33 Sail View Ave
RPV,CA
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ATTACHMENT F-250
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Marcella Lemke
From:nanatre@cox.net
Sent:Thursday,February 09,20128:43 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
My name is Lois Tregarthen and I live in Rancho Palos Verdes.Each time I have
visited that beach the dogs there have been having a wonderful time and have been
very well controlled by their owners.I have not seen any dog waste left behind
even though there are not bags or trash cans on the beach.These would be a
great additi.on if the beach does become a dog beach.
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-251
Marcella Lemke
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Attachments:
RPV Dog
!ach020812.dl
chip zeit [chipzelt@gmail.com]on behalf of Chip Zeit [chipzelt@cox.net]
Wednesday,February 08,201210:59 AM
cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
RPV Dog beach020812.doc
Follow up
Yellow
RPV Dog beach020812.doc
Please find attached letter regarding the RPV Dog Beach.
Thanks,
Chip ZeIt
1
ATTACHMENT F-252
Chip Zeit
4100 Sea Horse Lane
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
February 8,2012
Dog Beach Project Manager
Parks and Recreation Dept.
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
RPV,CA 90275
Re:Rancho Palos Verdes Trial Dog Beach
Dear Project Manager:
I am opposed to making Rancho Palos Verdes beach a permanent Dog beach.
Please vote against making this a permanent dog beach.
Since the RPV city council has made this beach a trial dog beach it has become
unsafe to walk along its shores.
There are too many unleashed dogs(i.e.Pit bulls,Doberman Pincher,etc)that have
led to dog fights,dog deaths,seal deaths,un-picked up defecation and a general
disarray of this beach.
Without constant monitoring 6:00 am to 7:00 pm by neither authorities nor any
posted rules to help enforce neglectful dog owners in the unleashed chaos this
trial dog beach has failed.
Please vote against making this a permanent dog beach.Or make the necessary
funds available to pay for proper dog park rules and on sight enforcement that
will make this beach a safe place for all to enjoy.
Sincerely,
Chip ZeIt
Cc:
Anthony M.Misetich -Mayor.
Brian Campbell,Mayor Pro Tem.
Susan Brooks -Councilmem.ber
Jim Knight-Councilmem.ber
Jerry Duhovic -Councilmem.ber
Page 1 ofl
ATTACHMENT F-253
Page 1 ofS
Marcella Lemke
From:Tyler Simich [tmsimich@gmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 08,201211 :14 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
Subject:How a dog park will ruin the most beautiful stretch of beach on the west cost.
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear R.P.V.City Counsel,
In a time before the white man had crossed the Atlantic,
before they slaughtered my native people,we put a blessing on
this peninsula.The blessing made this stretch of land the most
beautiful place in the world.My question to you is why are you
trying so hard to destroy such a special place?
The other day I was walking down at the beach below trumps,
like i had done a million times before and out of no where a
stray dog came flying at me.I checked to see if i had something
of interest in my hand or pockets that might attract such
ferocious interest in the dog.after a few seconds of thought I
realized that I indeed had nothing of great attention and that the
dog must have attracted some sort of highly contagious
neurological disorder that turned the poor animal into a creature
of pure instinct.This hell hound approached the last three or so
feet in the air with his large mouth wide open.I,being
extremely athletic due to years of high school sports,could not
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-254
Page 2 of5
get out of the way and this heathen of an animal bit the lower part of
my better leg.With not only anger and fear flooding my body i had
to make a desperate attempt to escape.I now had to lead with my
second favorite leg,due to my fIrst choices unfortunate bitten state,
s6 my pace was slow.I clambered over the rocks as the dog began
circling me the way a great white circle its wounded pry.I grabbed a
stick to protect myself but then quickly threw it away realizing that I
would only further enrage the beast.It slowly approached me in full.
attack stance and i looked it dead in the face and tried to hold my
ground.We stood in a death stair as a grope of tourists,who had
been watching the spectacle for some time now,began to cheer us on
as if we where roman gladiators.I called for help to what looked like
the leader of the group and he looked at me,gave a rude gesture,the
yelled to the dog to continue the attack.The dog obeyed the man as
he taunted and it lunged at me with the force of a small van or large
car.More like a large car because he was quite streamline in his
approach and a van is about as streamline as an elephant in a wind
tunnel.This tilne i used what i had learned from previous
experiences and dodged this fatal attack.In doing so I slipped in
sOlnething and fell hard to the ground but something broke my fall.It
was soft but cold and after a few second a horrible smell invaded my
face.As i looked down to find the source of the horrifically pungent
smell i saw it.That familiar smell of death and the dead dog before
Ine confirmed my thoughts.Not only was i being attacked but this
beach is now littered with dead animals.The original dog that i was
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-255
Page 3 of5
being hunted by had also seen this sight and instantly became
distracted from its prey (me)and went to the dead carcass.I used this
time to grab a large rock and smash that pledged dogs skull in.With
blood on IUy face,I was greeted by the cheers of the on lookers,
which had grown into a crowd of more that fifty.The one whom i
had thought was the leader came towards me and granted me a small
leather bag.Inside this bag lay five large gold coins,the leader said
nothing,he just walked back towards the grope,said a few words.
then they all left.
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the proposed
dog beach below Trump National golf course.Unfortunately
since the city has taken over this part of the coastline and
deemed it a trial Dog Beach void of rules or regulations,the
beach is no longer safe for visitors,native species or dogs.With
word spreading quickly through out Southern California and
visitors coming from up to 100 miles away,the days of a few
people/dogs upon the beach is being swept away by thousands of
people and hundreds of dogs rotating through this sensitive
habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city
ordinances and therefore illegal,this de facto dog park is
adversely effecting the local communitys safety,its also directly
impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,
Live Forever succulent as well as native sea life that call these
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-256
Page 4 of5
shores home.I do not understand why the city of Rancho Palos
Verdes would want to open one of the few natural-occurring
sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to an unregulated
dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los Angeles County where ten
million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the
Decemb~r 20,2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly does
not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your
guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog
parks in California.Every dog beach and dog park has rules and
regulations in place to protect the people,dog owners and their
dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and
regulations for a Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where
will funding come from?This area is no longer safe for anyone
group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I
have to walk by an off leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or
German Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I have
found that the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach
would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows us
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-257
Page 5 of5
how the beach would work,currently this trial gets an "F"for
negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds great,but the
reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,
enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an
appropriate place for a dog beach.Please respect the local
community and environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog
beach.
Sincerely,Tyler Simich
23 Rockinghorse rd.RPV,90275,CA
Who will guard the dogs?
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-258
Marcella Lemke
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 08,20121 :39 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:no dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Attachments:Dog Park.docx
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From:Pat Zeit [mailto:patazelt@gmail.com]
sent:Wednesday,February 08,20129:37 AM
To:cc@rpv.coQ'l
Subject:no dog park
Patricia Schultz-Zeit
Placing and Spacing
Interiors ASID,CID
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2/9/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-259
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf
course.Unfortunately since the city has taken over this
part of the coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void
of rules or regulations,the beach is no longer safe for
visitors,native species or dogs.With word spreading
quickly through out Southern California and visitors
coming from up to 100 miles away,the days of a few
people/dogs upon the beach is being swept away by
thousands of people and hundreds of dogs rotating
through this sensitive habitat.Not only is this use of
city property in violation of city ordinances and therefore
illegal,this de facto dog park is adversely effecting the.
local community's safety,it's also directly impacting the
endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,Live
Forever succulent as well as native sea life that call these
shores home.I do not understand why the city of Rancho
Palos Verdes would want to open one of the few natural-
occurring sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to
an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los Angeles
County where ten million people live?After reading
the 'minutes from the August 16,2011 and the December
20,2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly does not
meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your
guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches
or dog parks in California.Every dog beach and dog park
has rules and regulations in place to protect the people,
dog owners and their dogs.If the City does develop and
implement rules and regulations for a Dog Beach,who will
enforce them and where will funding come from?This
area is no longer safe for anyone group,including dogs;it
is out of control on must days with good weather and is
ATTACHMENT F-260
routinely left trashed.I would like to have a choice as
to whether my family or I have to walk by an off leash Pit
Bull,Doberman Pincher or German Shepherd,dog/human
feces and I no longer do.I have found that the cons far
outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation
shows us how the beach would work,currently this trial
gets an "F"for negligence.The idea of a dog beach here
sounds great,but the reality of it is a nightmare.With no
emergency access,enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage
or rules this is not an appropriate place for a dog beach.
Please respect the local community and environment by
saying NO to the R.P.V dog beach.
Sincerely,
Pat Zeit
4100 Seahorse Ln.
Rancho Palos Verdes,Ca 90275
ATTACHMENT F-261
Page 1 of3
Marcella Lemke
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 9:33 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach (6)
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:carla Morreale [mailto:carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,2012 5:18 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:Dog Beach.
From:David Meffert [mailto:meffdesign@mac.com]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,20125:06 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Dear R.P.V.City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf
course.Unfortunately since the city has taken over
this part of the coastline and deemed it a trialllDog
Beach'~void of rules or regulations,the beach is no
longer safe for visitors,native species or dogs.With
word spreading quickly through out Southern
California and visitors coming from up to 100 miles
away,the days of a few people/dogs upon the beach
is being swept away by thousands of people and
hundreds of dogs rotating through this sensitive
habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city
ordinances and therefore illegal,this de facto dog
park is adversely effecting the local community's
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-262
Page 2 of3
safety,it's also directly impacting the endangered Gnat
Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,Live Forever succulent as
well as native sea life that call these shores home.I do
not understand why the city of Rancho Palos Verdes
would want to open one of the few natural-occurring
sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to an
unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los Angeles
County where ten million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and
the Dec'ember 20,2011 council meetings,this beach area
clearly does not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set
forth in your guidelines nor any other guidelines at other
dog beaches or dog parks in California.Every dog beach
and dog park has rules and regulations in place to protect
the people,dog owners and their dogs.If the City does
develop and implement rules and regulations for a Dog
Beach,who will enforce them and where will funding come
from?This area is no longer safe for anyone group,
including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I
have to walk by an off leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or
German Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I
have found that the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog
beach would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows
us how the beach would work,currently this trial gets
an "F"for negligence.The idea of a dog beach here
sounds great,but the reality of it is a nightmare.With no
emergency access,enforcement,lifeguards,fences,
signage or rules this is not an appropriate place for a dog
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-263
beach.Please respect the local community and
environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog beach.
Sincerely,
Bryce Meffert
11 Packsaddle,RPV,CA
2/9/2012
Page 3 of3
ATTACHMENT F-264
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»m:Tim McCarthy [timandkathie@verizon.net]
/,jent:Wednesday,February 01,2012 2:57 PM
"To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Re:Official Dog Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Attachments:_DSC1946_2.JPG;_DSC1899.JPG
Oops!Forgot my attachment on the email.Our shepherd sprinting,then trotting after runnning out of
energy at Trump Beach.Is that a happy dog or what!!!That's why we love that beach so much.:)
Kathie McCarthy
On 2/1/12 2:48 PM,"Tim McCarthy"<timandkathie@verizon.net>wrote:
Since 1998,my husband and I have been taking our dogs to Oceans Trails and now Trump
Beach,as we have been calling it.It is a wonderful place,and we have never had any
problems.Everyone has been responsible and quite frankly,between the sharp rocks in
the water and the super strong undertow,it really isn't suitable for swimming anyway.My
hubbie won't swim there because of the dangerous conditions,and he is a very strong
swimmer (rescue swimmer for the US Navy/diver for Metropolitan police department).I
rarely even see anyone else SWimming there.And we have so many beautiful walking trails
in RPV ...we do not need another,and due to steep terrain,many of our more senior
residents can't use it for walking anyway.Also,the more socialized and well-exercised
dogs are,the less likely they are to be aggressive,as many dogs are that are pent up in the
yard all day,with the only exercise being 3 mile per hour walks around the neighborhood.
Or does it make more sense to have more emotionally sound animals in our community
who get great exercise because they can run around and get more and more socialized at a
great location?If dogs are not allowed,that beach will be as empty as it used to be in '98,
before the secret got out!If dogs were not allowed,people would rarely use it,and it
would be a huge waste of a great location and opportunity to mingle with residents while
your dog gets great exercise.
Please vote to make it an official dog beach!Also,please see attached.
Thank you!
Tim and Kathie McCarthy
28030 Santona Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
310/619-6792
'2012
Page 1
ATTACHMENT F-265
ATTACHMENT F-266
Page 1 of3
Peter Sun
From:EZStevens (ezstevens@cox.net]
Sent:Saturday,January 28,20126:19 PM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:Greg Pfost;Asst.City Manager Carolynn Petru:;RPV Planning;emiliob@rpv.com
SUbject:No Dog Park Beach in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Subject:No Dog Park Beach in RPV
Parks and Recreation and RPV City Council,
I am writing to convey my strong disapproval of the dog park (on the beach)being considered
adjacent to the Trump National Golf Course.
1.I am concerned not only for the safety and wellbeing for those that would visit the dog park,
but for those that pay dues at the nearby PBC beach where little children play and often walk
beyond that private beach to the soft sand area just below the rocks.The soft sand area is where
the dog park is being considered.It is a rare stretch ofland in RPV where the public and RPV
residents can enjoy putting their toes in the water and not having to contend with big rocks.I do
not want RPV residents and visitors to have to worry about being in such a beautiful setting and
having to side-step and risk stepping into dog defecation.Time and time again,I see dog poo
even though the Trump National walking paths are so nicely equipped with doggie bags for
poop.Why would one think the beach just below,will be different?
Who is responsible?Who cleans up and at whose expense if owners do
not pick up their dog's waste?Who is monitoring the owners and at
whose expense?
2.I am concerned for the public and the city with regards to legal rights and upholding their
obligations should someone be bitten or injured by a dog.
3.There is a dog park with a spectacular view up by the Museum at Friendship park in San
Pedro,less than three miles away.I do not feel it is necessary to have another dog park when one
is nearby.Additionally,the following list are dog parks locally,not taking into account the many
dog parks in Los Angeles.
Huntington Beach Dog Beach
On Pacific Coast Highway between 21st St.and Seapoint St.;100 Goldenwest St.,92648.Open
5 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily.Dogs may be off-leash in the water and on the wet sand --three quarters of
a mile long.
Malibu·Leo Carrillo State Beach
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-267
Page 2 of3
This state beach allows leashed dogs.The only restriction is that they are not allowed between towers
two and three (the busiest part of the beach).Go North on PCR towards Oxnard until you get to EI
Matador and Leo Carillo State Beaches.818/706-1310
Huntington Beach -Best Friend Dog Park
At Central Park;Edwards @ Inlet;92648;714/536-5672;1.5 acres.Separate small dog area for pooches
under 25 lbs.and for older or handicapped dogs.Dawn to dusk.
Long Beach -Downtown Dog Park
Broadway @ Pacific Ave.within Lincoln Park.The park opened in September and has been serving the
needs of downtown residents and their dogs and re-energizing a historic open space in our downtown
civic center.The park has spaces for both large and small dogs,benches for owners,free doggie waste
bags and double entrance and exit gates.
Long Beach -K-9 Comer
At the comet of 9th &Pacific.Solar powered and completely offthe grid,native plants,sloped
irrigation,faux grass and recycled materials all wrapped into a contemporary design.Includes doggie
water fountain.Very small "pocket park"lot on the comer,in a neighborhood.
Long Beach -Recreation Dog Park
5201 E.7th St.@ Park Ave.inside Recreation Park.Almost two acres of off-leash play space,including
a fenced area just for small dogs.The park is well-lit and open until 10 p.m.daily.
Long Beach -Uptown Dog Park
On the Long Beach Blvd.side of Scherer Park,4600 Long Beach Blvd.The dog area is near picnic
tables and a nearby parking lot.More dog parks may be planned as residents see the benefits of creating
safe,fun areas for dogs to run and play in City parks.The Uptown Dog Park also provides separate areas
for small and large dogs to playoff leash.The fenced area is located near picnic areas and a parking lot.
Long Beach -Wrigley Heights Dog Park
3401 Golden Ave,1.9 acres,6am -10pm,daily,
Park may be closed Mondays before noon for maintenance.The dog park accommodates dogs with an
entry/vesti'bule area for unleashing or holding dogs when entering or leaving the dog park section.
Existing mulch will make up the surface material,the perimeter and division of the site will be identified
by painted chain link fencing,and existing trees will provide shade.Dog pick-up bags,separate trash
receptacles,benches and a water fountain will be made available.
Redondo Beach Dog Park
200 Flagler Lane;within the 23 acre Dominguez Park,at the comer of 190th Street and Flagler Lane.
Fenced,benches,tables,handicap access,pickup bags,trees,parking,telephones,lights,restrooms,
water,trashcans,shelter;separate fenced area for little dogs.
4.Our city is small and what population we have,most residents live in homes with yards.Those that
don't have a yard,there are beautiful parks where they can walk and have fun with their dogs when
leashed or if they wish to run with their dogs they can take their dogs to the parks listed above.
Please do not make that beautiful beach a dog playground,
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-268
Page 3 of3
let's keep it pristine for the PEOPLE who live in and visit
RPV.
Edward Z Stevens
Conqueror Dr..
I
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-269
..
Page 1 of3
Peter Sun
From:Elizabeth Sax [saxhouse1@gmail.com]
Sent:Friday,January 27,2012 7:47 PM
To:parks@rpv.com;CC@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Park in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Parks and Recreation and RPV City Council,
I am writing to convey my strong disapproval of the dog park (on the beach)being considered
adjacent to the Trump National Golf Course.
1.I am concerned not only for the safety and well being for those that would visit the dog park,
but for those that pay dues at the nearby PBC beach where little children play and often walk
beyond that private beach to the soft sand area just below the rocks.The soft sand area is where
the dog park is being considered.It is a rare stretch ofland in RPV where the public and RPV
residents can enjoy putting their toes in the water and not having to contend with big rocks.I do
not want RPV residents and visitors to have to worry about being in such a beautiful setting and
having to side-step and risk stepping into dog defication.Time and time again,I see dog poo
even though the Trump National walking paths are so nicely equipped with doggie bags for
poop.Why would one think the beach just below,will be different?
Who is responsible?Who cleans up and at whose expense if owners do not pick up their dog's
waste?Who is monitoring the owners and at whose expense?
2.I am concerned for the public and the city with regards to legal rights and upholding their
obligations should someone be bitten or injured by a dog.
3.There is a dog park with a spectacular view up by the Museum at Friendship park in San
Pedro,less than three miles away.I do not feel it is necessary to have another dog park when one
is nearby.Additionally,the following list are dog parks locally,not taking into account the many
dog parks in Los Angeles.
Huntington Beach Dog Beach
On Pacific Coast Highway between 21st S1.and Seapoint S1.;100 Goldenwest S1.,92648.Open
5 a.m.to 8 p.m.daily.Dogs may be off-leash in the water and on the wet sand --three quarters of
a mile long.
Malibu·Leo Carrillo State Beach
This state beach allows leashed dogs.The only restriction is that they are not allowed between
towers two and three (the busiest part of the b~ach).Go North on PCH towards Oxnard until you
get to EI Matador and Leo Carillo State Beaches.818/706-1310
Huntington Beach·Best Friend Dog Park
At Central Park;Edwards @ Inlet;92648;714/536-5672;1.5 acres.Separate small dog area for
pooches under 25 lbs.and for older or handicapped dogs.Dawn to dusk.
i
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-270
Page 2 of3
Long Beach·Downtown Dog Park
Broadway @ Pacific Ave.within Lincoln Park.The park opened in September and has been serving the
needs of downtown residents and their dogs and re-energizing a historic open space in our downtown
civic center.The park has spaces for both large and small dogs,benches for owners,free doggie waste
bags and double entrance and exit gates.
L~ng Beach -K·9 Corner
At the comer of 9th &Pacific.Solar powered and completely off the grid,native plants,sloped
irrigation,faux grass and recycled materials all wrapped into a contemporary design.Includes doggie
water fountain.Very small "pocket park"lot on the comer,in a neighborhood.
Long Beach·Recreation Dog Park
5201 E.7th St.@ Park Ave.inside Recreation Park.Almost two acres of off-leash play space,including
a fenced area just for small dogs.The park is well-lit and open until 10 p.m.daily...
Long Beach·Uptown Dog Park
On the Long Beach Blvd.side of Scherer Park,4600 Long Beach Blvd.The dog area is near picnic
tables and a nearby parking lot.More dog parks may be planned as residents see the benefits of creating
safe,fun areas for dogs to run and play in City parks.The Uptown Dog Park also provides separate areas
for small and large dogs to play off leash.The fenced area is located near picnic areas and a parking lot.
Long Beach·Wrigley Heights Dog Park
3401 Golden Ave,1.9 acres,6am -lOpm,daily,
Park may be closed Mondays before noon for maintenance.The dog park accommodates dogs with an
entry/vestibule area for unleashing or holding dogs when entering or leaving the dog park section.
Existing mulch will make up the surface material,the perimeter and division of the site will be identified
by painted chain link fencing,and existing trees will provide shade.Dog pick-up bags,separate trash
receptacles,benches and a water fountain will be made available.
Redondo Beach Dog Park
200 Flagler Lane;within the 23 acre Dominguez Park,at the comer of I 90th Street and Flagler Lane.
Fenced,benches,tables,handicap access,pickup bags,trees,parking,telephones,lights,restrooms,
water,trashcans,shelter;separate fenced area for little dogs.
4.Our city is small and what population we have,most residents live in homes with yards.Those that
don't have a yard,there are beautiful parks where they can walk and have fun with their dogs when
leashed or if they wish to run with their dogs they can take their dogs to the parks listed above.
Please do not make that beautiful beach a dog play ground,let's keep it pristine for the PEOPLE who
live in and visit RPV.
Elizabeth Sax
Admirable Dr.
R.P.V.
2/6/2012 ATTACHMENT F-271
I
2/6/2012
Page 3 of3
ATTACHMENT F-272
Page 1 of3
Marcella Lemke
From:Tracy Farman [tfarman@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,201210:13 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:"Dog Beach"
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf course.
Unfortunately since the city has taken over this part of the
coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void of rules or
regulations,the beach is no longer safe for visitors,native
species or dogs.With word spreading quickly through out
Southern California and visitors coming from up to 100
miles away,the days of a few people/dogs upon the beach is
being swept away by thousands of people and hundreds of
dogs rotating through this sensitive habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city
ordinances and therefore illegal,this de facto dog park is
adversely effecting the local community's safety,it's also
directly impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,
Cactus Wren,Live Forever succulent as well as native sea
life that call these shores home.I do not understand why the
city of Rancho Palos Verdes would want to open one of the
few natural-occurring sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos
Verdes,to an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of
Los Angeles County where ten million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the
December 20,2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly
does not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-273
Page 2 of3
guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog
parks in California.Every dog beach and dog park has rules and
regulations in place to protect the people,dog owners and their
dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and
regulations for a Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where
will funding come from?This area is no longer safe for anyone
group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I have to
walk by an off leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or German
Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I have found that
the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide
here.
As an unintentional trial rUD,the current situation shows us how
the beach would work,currently this trial gets an "F"for
negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds great,but the
reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,
enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an
appropriate place for a dog beach.Please respect the local
community and environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog
beach.
Sincerely,
Tracy Farman
4187 Maritime Rd.
Rancho Palo Verdes,CA 90275
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-274
Page 3 of3
Help Save R.P.V Beach from becoming LA County's only official"Dog
Beach"
Help our community oppose the possibility of this becoming a sanctioned dog beach by making your
voice heard.
R.P.V council is currently gathering feedback from local community to make a ruling Feb-March/2012 .•.
PLEASE ACT NOW!!!
E1~f/fl/lnli1n
Team Leader
310·560·6001
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-275
Page 1 of3
i Marcella Lemke
~.From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,201210:58 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:"Dog Beach"
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
From:Tracy Farman [mailto:tfarman@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,2012 10:15 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:FW:"Dog Beach"
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf course.
Dnfortunately since the city has taken over this part of the
coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void of rules or
regulations,the beach is no longer safe for visitors,native
species or dogs.With word spreading quickly through out
Southern California and visitors coming from up to 100
miles away,the days of a few people/dogs upon the beach is
being swept away by thousands of people and hundreds of
dogs rotating through this sensitive habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city
ordinances and therefore illegal,this de facto dog park is
adversely effecting the local community's safety,it's also
directly impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,
Cactus Wren,Live Forever succulent as well as native sea
life that call these shores home.I do not understand why the
city of Rancho Palos Verdes would want to open one of the
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-276
Page 2 of3
few natural-occurring sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos
Verdes,to an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los
Angeles County where ten million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the
December 20,2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly does
not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your guidelines
nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog parks in
California.Every dog beach and dog park has rules and
regulations in place to protect the people,dog owners and their
dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and
regulations for a Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where
will funding come from?This area is no longer safe for anyone
group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I have to
walk by an off leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or German
Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I have found that
the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide
here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows us how
the beach would work,currently this trial gets an "F"for
negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds great,but the
reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,
enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an
appropriate place for a dog beach.Please respect the local
community and environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog
beach.
Sincerely,
Tracy Farman
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-277
Peter Sun
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Tuesday,January 31,201212:41 PM
'Katie Howe'
'Tracy Bonano'
FW:RPV Dog Beach Feedback
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:Cindy_Sattler@Toyota.com [mailto:Cindy_Sattler@Toyota.com]
Sent:Saturday,January'28,2012 9:37 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:RPV Dog Beach Feedback
Hello!My name is Cindy Sattler and I reside in PVE.I have two dogs and
have walked them several times on the Trump Beach.I endorse the use of
this beach for off-leash canines.Each of the roughly half-dozen times we
have walked it,there were many other people and children likewise enjoying
the area with their pets.Each visit was a positive experience.
This is the only local spot that is canine permitted.Aside from a very
short dog beach in the Belmont Shores area of Long Beach,one has to go to
Huntington Beach in order to enjoy such a walk with one's dog by the sea.
My feeling is that this beach be kept as-is for off-leash dog walking.I
would suggest that it's permitted use,if it's accepted as such,be
advertised only locally,to residents of neighboring communities,to avoid
over-crowding (parking,trash,etc.)by outsiders.
Thank you!
1
ATTACHMENT F-278
Page 1 of3
Marcella Lemke
From:Oliver Hazard [perryhappy@hotmail.com]
S-:tnt:Tuesday,February 07,201210:51 AM
T~:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:No dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the.
proposed dog beach below Trump National golf course.
Unfortunately since the city has taken over this part of the
coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void of rules or
regulations,the beach is no longer safe for visitors,native
species or dogs.With word spreading quickly through out
Southern California and visitors coming from up to 100
miles away,the days of a few people/dogs upon the beach is
being swept away by thousands of people and hundreds of
dogs rotating through this sensitive habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city
ordinances and therefore illegal,this de facto dog park is
adversely effecting the local community's safety,it's also
directly impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,
Cactus Wren,Live Forever succulent as well as native sea
life that call these shores home.I do not understand why the
city of Rancho Palos Verdes would want to open one of the
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-279
Page 2 of3
few natural-occurring sandy beaches in all of Rancho Palos
V·erdes,to an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of Los
·Angeles County where ten million people live?
.After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the
December 20,2011 council meetings,this beach area clearly does
not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in your guidelines
nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog parks in.
California.Every dog beach and dog park has rules and
regulations in place to protect the people,dog owners and their
dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and
regulations for a Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where
will funding come from?This area is no longer safe for anyone
group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I have
to walk by an off leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or German
Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I have found that
the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide
here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows us
how the beach would work,currently this trial gets an "F"for
negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds great,but the
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-280
Page 3 of3
reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,
enforcement,lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an
appropriate place for a dog beach.Please respect the local
community and environment by saying NO to the.R.P.V dog
beach.
Sincerely,Oliver Hazard
2/9/2012 ATTACHMENT F-281
Katie Howe
From:Tom Jacobsen [tomj@jacobsenpilot.com]
Sent:Monday,February 06,20128:47 AM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Cc:Michele Jacobsen
Subject:SUPPORT DOG BEACH IN RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Dear RPV City Council,
Our family SUPPORTS the Dog Beach below Trump National Golf Course.We use this beach regularly
and like the fact that we can have our dog off leash.Every time we have been there we see families
with their dogs all having fun.This is a great thing to have in RPV!
We live in RPV at 28953 ~restridge Rd.
Thank you
Tom and Michele Jacobsen
Dog Beach Notice:http://www.palosverdes.com/rpv/recreationparks/dog-skate-parks/dog-beach.cfm
2/9/2012
Page 1 of1
ATTACHMENT F-282
T!1r'G~ty of Rancho Palos Verdes,California
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THE CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
NEWS &
fNfORMA'nON CONTACT
RECREATION &PARKS
POTENTIAL DOG BEACH IN
RANCHO PALOS VERDES?
WE NEED YOUR INPUT
The City of Rancho Palos Verdes is engaging in a public outreach effort to gather
community input on changing the existing City ordinance to allow dogs off-leash on
the newly acquired 5-acre Rancho Palos Verdes Beach located below Trump
National Golf Course and Founders Park.
RANCHO PALOS VERDES BEACH-THE SITE
In May 2011,Trump National Golf Club transferred ownership of a 24.4-acre
coastal parcel to the City as required through the project entitlements.
Approximately five acres of the parcel is accessible beach area.The parcel
extends north to the private beach owned by the Portuguese Bend Club,and south
to approximately the mid-point of the Trump National Golf Course (the most
southerly 10.67 acres of coastal bluff was accepted by the City in 2006).See map
below.Now that ownership has been transferred to the City,the City is responsible
for providing appropriate services and enforcing City rules and regulations on the
property.
Current uses of the beach include limited swimming and surfing,which typically occur in the area of the beach belonging to the Portuguese Bend Club that does not
contain rocks or prolific kelp growth.However,there is a known surfing spot typically not accessible to beginners,just off of the point near the southern portion of the
beach.For many years,while the property was under private ownership,the beach accessible from Founders Park via the Sunset Trail has been used as an informal
dog beach.
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http://www.palosverdes.com/rpv/recreationparks/dog-skate-parks/dog-beach.cfin?a=lATTACHMENT F-283
I~9£Y~Y of Rancho Palos Verdes,California Page 2 of4
RELATED LINKS
Click here to view the August 16,2011 Staff Report
HOW TO STAY INVOLVED
Please send feedback,ideas,and concerns to the City by ernailing the City Council at cc@rpv.com and the Recreation and Parks Department at parks@rpv.com.
Please include your name and city of residence.
To be emailed updates on the project,please join the project listserv at rpvalert.com and check this project webpage.
For more information on the project,please contact Recreation and Parks Department Administrative Analyst Katie Howe at katieh@rpv.com or 310-544-5260.
NEXT STEPS
On August 16,2011,the City Council directed staff to conduct public outreach on future uses of the beach and to bring back research on the pros and cons of
establishing an off-leash dog beach at Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.City staff is currently meeting with and gathering input from surrounding neighborhoods and
adjacent business interests.S~aff expects to bring the matter back to City Council in February or March 2012.
http://www.palosverdes.com/rpv/recreationparks/dog-skate-parks/dog-beach.cfin?a=1 2/9/2012ATTACHMENT F-284
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
bill foster [bfos@cox.net]
Sunday,February 12,2012 11 :29 AM
cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
dog beach,dog park
Follow up
Yellow
i am writing to express my opposition to the plan for a dog beach off Sunset Trail below
Trump golf course and a planned dog park potentially at Ladera Linda Community Center.
Many in our community have worked for years to save our coast line as well as the green
spaces in our city.
The primary purpose for those efforts was for the enjoyment of people not necessarily
their pets.Please scrap both of these plans
Thank you
Bill Foster
1
ATTACHMENT F-285
Katie Howe
From:Si Arkoff [bobbieandsi@cox.net]
Sent:Saturday,February 11,201211 :07 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Cc:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach.doc
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Attachments:Dog Beach.doc
Please read attached document.
Thanks,
Simon Arkoff
4020 Exultant Dr.
RPV,90275
bobbieandsi@cox.net .
2/13/2012
Page 1 ofl
ATTACHMENT F-286
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Cindy Blindbury [cblindbury@cox.net]
Friday,February 10,2012 10:42 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach in R.P.V.
Follow up
Yellow
>Dear Parks and Recreation,
>
>As a 32 year resident of the peninsula I have been taking my German Shorthair Pointer
dogs to the beach below the Trump National Golf Club for at least 25 of those years (well
before the development of the property).In all that time I have not encountered an
aggressive dog or a dog fight or any complaints from other beach goers about my dogs being
off leash.Most of the people I meet there are other responsible dog owners who mind
their dogs and pick up after them.Dogs need socialization and exercise and a place where
they can expend some energy leash free.Spend some time down there to see for yourselves
how much the dogs enjoy running,romping,swimming and playing together.I think the dog
owners,myself included,have as much fun at the beach as the dogs.Since there is no dog
park on the Hill and the closest leash free beach is The Cone Zone in south Long Beach,I
would very much like to see this area remain "dog friendly".
>
>In closing,I would like to add that frequently after our play time at the beach,we
stop for a bite to eat at the outdoor grill at Trump or other eatery in the Golden Cove
Center.It's a win win -the dogs have their off leash romp,I have a great time watching
their exuberance,and I patronize a local establishment that I may otherwise skip.
>
>Thank you for time and consideration with this matter.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Cindy Blindbury
2866 Via Victoria
P.V.E.
>310-541-7514
>cblindbury@cox
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ATTACHMENT F-287
Katie Howe
From:Chris Del Mora [collectic@gmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday,February 07,20124:48 PM
To:Katie Howe
Subject:Dog Beach meeting dates?
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
Love to know as soon as possible when the issue is coming to council meeting.The issue needs
to be dealt with as soon as possible,please infonn us ASAP on when we are looking to gather as
many people are concerned with the illegal situation,dangerous beach conditions and need for
action.
Thank you for your attention.
Chris 111
2/13/2012
Page 1 of1
ATTACHMENT F-288
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
William Mernin [mernin@earthlink.net]
Sunday,February 12,2012 12:25 PM
parks@rpv.com
Dog Beach Project
Follow up
Yellow
You asked for input,here it is.
We don't need any more regulations on the beach next to Ocean Trails.
We sure don't need a "Dog Beach Project Manager"
PLEASE don't make any changes at the beach.
It is just fine as it is.
Please don't "consider future uses"of the beach.It is being utilized well right now.
The RPV city council should leave it ALONE.
I'll be glad to provide you with my name when you provide me with yours.
I'd love to know who the "Dog Beach Project Manager"is and if he is being paid with our
tax dollars.
The beach belongs to everyone.
1
ATTACHMENT F-289
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Bob Blindbury [bblindbury@cox.net]
Saturday,February 11,2012 10:23 AM
parks@rpv.com
Dog park
Follow up
Yellow
To Whom It May Concern,
As seen in the Daily Breeze,you requested inputs on the use of "Trump Beach"as a
possible dog friendly beach.We have lived in PVE for 32 years and have always taken our
dogs there to the beach.Never have we encountered any problems with other dogs or
disgruntled people.The beach is not a family beach because of the changing sand
conditions and the fact there are few if any safe places to swim.It is a place to relax
and enjoy the sea breeze and to watch the dogs play and romp.Majority of dog owners are
very self conscience about cleaning up after their dogs.With the development of the golf
course and club house,we oft-en take the dogs to the beach and stop to have a hamburger at
the Trump property.What a fun afternoon.
Please give serious consideration to allowing dogs on the beach in front of Trump.The
beach is isolated and perfect for dog lovers and any others who enjoy a walk on the beach
seeing how much fun everyone is having.
Bob Blindbury
310-567-6933
bblindbury@cox.net
1
ATTACHMENT F-290
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
jimzupke@cox.net
Friday,February 10,20125:17 PM
parks@rpv.com
DOG PARK AT TRUMP
Follow up
Yellow
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the proposed dog beach below Trump
National golf course. Unfortunately since the city has taken over this part of the
coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void of rules or regulations,the beach is no
longer safe for visitors,native species or dogs.With word spreading quickly through out
Southern California and visitors coming from up to 100 miles away,the days of a few
people/dogs upon the beach is being swept away by thousands of people and hundreds of dogs
rotating through this sensitive habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city ordinances and therefore
illegal,this de facto dog park is adversely effecting the local community'S safety,it's
also directly impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,Live Forever
succulent as well as native sea life that call these shores home.I do not understand why
the city of Rancho Palos Verdes would want to open one of the few natural-occurring sandy
beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of
Los Angeles County where ten million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the December 20,2011 council
meetings,this beach area clearly does not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in
your guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog parks in California.
Every dog beach and dog park has rules and regulations in place to protect the people,dog
owners and their dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and regulations for a
Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where will funding come from?This area is no longer
safe for anyone group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I have to walk by an off
leash pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or German Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I
have found that the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows us how the beach would
work,currently this trial gets an "F"for negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds
great,but the reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,enforcement,
lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an appropriate place for a dog beach.
Please respect the local community and environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog beach.
Has the California Coastal Commission been informed of this proposal?
Sincerely,
Jim Zupke
1
ATTACHMENT F-291
Katie Howe
---------------..-._---------_..__..
From:Reception [Reception@rpv.com]
Sent:Friday,February 10,20121:08 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Dog Park Phone Call
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hello Katie,
Lisa Levine is a RPV citizen and she is in favor of the dog park.
2/13/2012
Page 1 of1
ATTACHMENT F-292
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:00 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:dog beach (10)
-----Original Message-----
From:Carla Morreale [mailto:carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 10:15 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:dog beach
-----Original Message-----
From:Lisa Lev~ne [mailto:levinekids@cox.net]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 8:50 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:dog beach
Hi,
Please let the dog beach by Trump remain open.I take my dog about once a
month and we love it!Visitors are very responsible in picking up after
their pets and keeping an eye on their dogs.It is a great,fun day and the
dogs get to run and exercise.
Thank you,
Lisa Levine
Palos Verdes Estates
310/541-4258
1
ATTACHMENT F-293
Katie Howe
---------------
From:Sheri Stachowski [stachis99@gmail.com]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,20128:45 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dogs on Rancho Palos Verdes Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
To the Rancho Palos Verdes City Council:
-_._---
Page 1 of1
I am writing this letter in response to a sign posted about allowing off-leash dogs on Rancho
Palos Verdes Beach.My husband and I are very much in favor of allowing dogs off-leash at the
beach and encourage the city council to consider,at the very least,an off-leash section of the
beach.Responsible dog owners like ourselves really appreciate the opportunity to allow our
Golden Retriever to stretch her legs,chase tennis balls and swim in the ocean,which she loves to
do.And if you're looking for an example of a successful off-leash dog beach to emulate,just take
a look Rosie's Dog Beach in Long Beach which has been open for over 10 years now.
Thank you in advance for considering an off-leash section of Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.
Regards,
Sheri &George Stachowski
with Delilah our Golden Retriever,age 9 who loves the RPV dog beach
Rancho Palos Verdes
(703)347-2329
2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-294
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:01 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:dog beach (11)
-----Original Message-----
From:Lisa Levine [mailto:levinekids@cox.netJ
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 8:52 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:dog beach
Hi,
I vote to please let the dog beach near Trump remain open.I was there today with my dogs
and there were about a dozen other dogs there.A great time was had by all!Pet owners
were very resP9nsible in keeping an eye on their pets and picking up after them.It is a
wonderful opportunity for dogs to run free and get some exercise.
Thank you!
Lisa Levine
310/541-4258
1
ATTACHMENT F-295
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:05 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach (13)
-----Original Message-----
From:Sandra Mardesich [mailto:sandra.mardesich@cox.net]
Sent:Saturday,February 11,2012 9:52 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
Yes,I believe the best use of the beach below Trump should continue to be an off-leash
dog beach.I do not have a dog at the present time but enjoy watching the dogs and their
owners enjoy the beach.It is an appropriate use of the beach especially since it is
rocky and dang~rous for swimming purposes.I have never seen a problem with the dogs and
their owners.I hope RPV will continue to let the beach be used for this purpose.
Sandra Mardesich
South Shores,San Pedro
1
ATTACHMENT F-296
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:06 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach (14)
-----Original Message-----
From:Lorrie Dewitt [mailto:lorrie@harrismgmt.com]
Sent:Friday,February 10,2012 3:29 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach
I am so in favor in having a dog beach in PV.
Lorrie Dewitt
310-915-9595 Ext.21
1
ATTACHMENT F-297
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sunday,February 12,2012 1:19 PM
parks@rpv.com
FW:Dog Beach at Trumps
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:Teresa Volman [mailto:tree.ray@sbcglobal.net]
Sent:Saturday,February 11,2012 8:21 AM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach at Trumps
Dear R.P.V City Council Person,
I have to say when dogs and people first started coming to the Beach down at Trumps
it was nice to see a few dogs running around having a great time fetching sticks in the
water.Lately it has become out of control.On the weekends and nice weather days we
have so much traffic on the Beach.
Dogs off leash,trash left behind,dog feces left behind.With all the dogs walking
through founders park I always see dog feces left in the grass on the trails.I bring my
kids to the park to play and I always have to pick up a dog feces so that my kids don't
step in it.I am a total dog lover but IM also a nature lover and I love this stretch of
beach before Trumps was ever there and now.I hate to see this beautiful place being
negatively impacted and trashed because of the all the dog/people foot traffic.I feel
like if the dogs didn't come that it would cut down on the foot traffic and the biggest
problem people that don't clean up after their dogs.However I would like to be fair to
everyone and I really like the idea of having an allocated "Doggie Day"maybe Thursdays
and Fridays are Dog Days.This may keep the out-of-towners from coming and keep it more
of a local thing.I would hate to see this beautiful Beach Sanctioned by the city and the
next thing you know we have signage everywhere with out houses and trash cans this would
take away from the beauty and feeling of a remote Beach in L.A.
Love dogs just not at this pristine beach.
Thank you,
Teresa Volman
1280 W.16th street San Pedro,CA
90731
310-833-0487
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ATTACHMENT F-298
Katie Howe
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Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sunday,February 12,2012 10:23 PM
parks@rpv.com
FW:Dog Beach would be awesome!
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:Flora Lee [mailto:kleeflee@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 4:17 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach would be awesome!
Hello City Council,
We have recently discovered this beach and my dog loves it!She is able to run around
with all the other dogs and play in the water.We love going there and find ourselves
visiting this beach at least once a week.It would be great if you turned this into a
formal dog beach!
Thanks!
Flora Lee
Rancho Palos Verdes
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ATTACHMENT F-299
Katie Howe
From:
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Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:06 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Dog Beach would be awesome!(3)
-----Original Message-----
From:Carolynn Petru [mailto:carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 4:23 PM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tracy Bonano'
Subject:FW:Dog Beach would be awesome!
-----Original ~essage-----
From:Flora Lee [mailto:kleeflee@cox.net]
Sent:Thursday,February 09,2012 4:17 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog Beach would be awesome!
Hello City Council,
We have recently discovered this beach and my dog loves it!She is able
to run around with all the other dogs and play in the water.We love
going there and find ourselves visiting this beach at least once a
week.It would be great if you turned this into a formal dog beach!
Thanks!
Flora Lee
Rancho Palos Verdes
1
ATTACHMENT F-300
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
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Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:00 AM
'Katie Howe'
FW:Trump National Golf Course:Dog park beach (2)
-----Original Message-----
From:Carla Morreale [mailto:carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 10:15 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:Trump National Golf Course:Dog park beach
-----Original Message-----
From:Valerie ~axwell [mailto:addsoi@aol.com]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 9:27 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Trump National Golf Course:Dog park beach
We treasure the access for our dogs to run on the beach south of the Trump
Golf course.Please keep access for the off-leash dogs in the city of RPV.
Sincerely,
Valerie Maxwell and Scott Wilson
dog owners
Valerie Maxwell,Ph.D.
2007 Cedar Ave.
Manhattan Beach,Ca.90266
ADDSOI.com
310-546-6500#1
fax:310-546-9068
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ATTACHMENT F-301
Katie Howe
From:Katie Howe [katieh@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,February 13,2012 7:44 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Subject:Kozynsky -Supports
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Paula Kozynsky called February 13,2012 to voice her support of a dog beach.She is a resident of
Torrance.
2/13/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-302
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Katie Howe
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From:john.sattler.1@juno.com
Sent:Saturday,February 11,2012 2:39 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Ocean Trails Dog Beach Feedback
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Attachments:puppies Feb 2012 046.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 050.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 052.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 053.JPG
Recommending Ocean Trails for Off-Leash Dog Use
I just returned from this beach with my wife and two dogs.We had a wonderful time letting
them run in and out of the surf and getting great exercise.We always pickup after our dogs and
take the trash back up the trail to receptic1es at the top of the bluffs.Today is Saturday,Feb.
11 th and we were on the beach about 3 - 4 hours ...we saw maybe a dozen people and perhaps a
half-dozen off-leash dogs.I have attached photos.
We ran into a friend heading down the trail as we were leaving ...he attended a cocktail party
last night and was distraught about a woman spouting anti-canine propaganda about this beach.
She did not have a dog and admitted that she had not been to the beach,but nevertheless was
very opinionated.Stating that "hundreds"of off-leash dogs were running uncontrolled,"killing
wildlife","fighting"and "deficating"everywhere.Nothing could be further from the truth!
I have been to this beach many times and had never seen these described conditions.Any trash
that I have seen on this beach was washed-up from the ocean,not deposited by hikers using the
Trump access trail.
Please keep this beach open and friendly to Off-Leash Dog Use!
ThankYou
John Sattler,Palos Verdes Estates
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2/13/2012 ATTACHMENT F-303
Katie Howe
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msjanetz@cox.net
Friday,February 10,20125:15 PM
parks@rpv.com
PROPOSED DOG PARK AT TRUMP
Follow up
Yellow
Dear R.P.V City Council
I am writing to you with great concern regarding the proposed dog beach below Trump
National golf course. Unfortunately since the city has taken over this part of the
coastline and deemed it a trial "Dog Beach"void of rules or regulations,the beach is no
longer safe for visitors,native species or dogs.With word spreading quickly through out
Southern California and visitors coming from up to 100 miles away,the days of a few
people/dogs upon the beach is being swept away by thousands of people and hundreds of dogs
rotating through this sensitive habitat.
Not only is this use of city property in violation of city ordinances and therefore
illegal,this de facto dog park is adversely effecting the local community's safety,it's
also directly impacting the endangered Gnat Catchers habitat,Cactus Wren,Live Forever
succulent as well as native sea life that call these shores home.I do not understand why
the city of Rancho Palos Verdes would want to open one of the few natural-occurring sandy
beaches in all of Rancho Palos Verdes,to an unregulated dog beach (only 1 of 2)in all of
Los Angeles County where ten million people live?
After reading the minutes from the August 16,2011 and the December 20,2011 council
meetings,this beach area clearly does not meet the Dog Park Site Criteria as set forth in
your guidelines nor any other guidelines at other dog beaches or dog parks in California.
Every dog beach and dog park has rules and regulations in place to protect the people,dog
owners and their dogs.If the City does develop and implement rules and regulations for a
Dog Beach,who will enforce them and where will funding come from?This area is no longer
safe for anyone group,including dogs;it is out of control on must days with good
weather and is routinely left trashed.
I would like to have a choice as to whether my family or I have to walk by an off
leash Pit Bull,Doberman Pincher or German Shepherd,dog/human feces and I no longer do.I
have found that the cons far outweigh any pros that a dog beach would provide here.
As an unintentional trial run,the current situation shows us how the beach would
work,currently this trial gets an "F"for negligence.The idea of a dog beach here sounds
great,but the reality of it is a nightmare.With no emergency access,enforcement,
lifeguards,fences,signage or rules this is not an appropriate place for a dog beach.
Please respect the local community and environment by saying NO to the R.P.V dog beach.
Sincerely,
Janet Zupke
1 ATTACHMENT F-304
Katie Howe
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Jimolsen D3golsen@aol.com]
Saturday,February 11,2012 9:29 PM
parks@rpv.com
RPV dog beach?
Follow up
Yellow
Gina Olsen
Hermosa Beach,CA
We love the dog beach in RPV,and would do whatever needed to have the option for a dog
beach close.It is a great place!Great Place,Great People!
Sent from my iPad
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ATTACHMENT F-305
Katie Howe
From:
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To:
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Flag Status:
Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Tuesday,February 14,2012 1:09 PM
'Katie Howe'
'Tracy B'
FW:Trump and Dogs
Follow up
Completed
-----Original Message-----
From:Jim Lehman [mailto:jimlehman@mac.coml
Sent:Tuesday,February 14,2012 9:17 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Trump and Dogs
Dear Council Members,
I am glad to hear that the matter of dogs using the beach is soon to be discussed by the
RPV city council.Just as something had to be done by the council some years back about
cleaning up the "nude beach"
below Portuguese Bend,something soon needs to be done about cleaning up the "dog beach"
below the Trump golf course.
What made the situation untenable regarding the "nude beach"was not
that an occasional sunbather might remove a part of their attire.
What made it bad was that once the information had spread that there were no rules there
and that it was the "wild west"and that one could pretty much do as one pleased,the
number of people behaving badly expanded greatly over several years.And this was before
the internet and social networking had really taken hold and become ubiquitous.
Fast forward twenty years or so and in the technological age of the present we have a
situation where it has only taken a few months for
the word to spread that there is a "dog beach"with no rules in RPV.
The number of non-residents on any given weekend is overwhelming and not healthy for the
beach or our community and it will only get worse.
My recommendation is that the council get hold of this issue sooner rather than later and
that it make some rules and guidelines regarding the "dog beach"quickly.My
recommendation would include that if dogs are to be allowed there,that a permit be
required and that the number be limited.The funds from the permits could be used to pay
for several "doggie waste stations"as well as trash containers and a removal service.I
don't know if that will help but something needs to done soon.
Good luck with this issue.
Best Regards,
Jim Lehman (Vigilance Drive)
1 ATTACHMENT F-306
Katie Howe
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john blandford Orblandford@earthlink.net]
Tuesday,February 14,201212:10 PM
cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Dog beach at Trump's
Follow up
Completed
Dear Sir,
I e-mail you today to protest the proposed dog beach at Trump's.I live nearby in
PBC.
We have had increasing dogs,with owners,transiting through our neighborhood and beach
unleashed.
The owners show little respect for signs posted,and are unaware of the county and RPV's
laws against dogs at beaches,or off leashes in the community.
The laws are presently "on the books"for a reason.Dogs are a safety and
sanitation problem.
Who can predict which dogs,off leash,may become a threat to small children,or toddlers?
The owners have been seen ignoring clean-up behind their pets,using the beach as a
bathroom.We enter the water in this area,and support the County and City laws
prohibiting their presence.
These arguments have already been addressed over the years.Dog owners have a
responsibility to the community that does not include their unfettered wanderings and
unhealthy dumping in public places.
Thank you for your time John Blandford,134 Seawall Rd,RPV
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310-415-0696
ATTACHMENT F-307
Katie Howe
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Stephen Taus [drtaus@cox.net]
Monday,February 13,20128:19 PM
parks@rpv.com
Against a sanctioned dog beach at RPV>
Follow up
Yellow
Dear Sirs:
I am definitely against a sanctioned dog beach at RPV Beach.
Stephen Taus
3335 Palo Vista Dr.
RPV,Ca
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ATTACHMENT F-308
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Katie Howe
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From:Gary Randall [grapecon@cox.net]
Sent:Tuesday,February 14,20126:16 AM
To:cc@rpv.com;parks@rpv.com
Subject:Proposed "Dog Beach"in RPV
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Dear R.P.V City Council and Parks Department:
It has recently come to my attention that the City of
Rancho Palos Verdes is considering a proposal for a official
"dog beach"below Trump Golf Course.I strongly urge that
you NOT ALLOW this proposal to move forward.
I have been a resident of Rancho Palos Verdes for nearly 40
years (only moving to nearby Lomita in my early 20's for 6
years).I have lived in Ladera Linda for the past 15 years.I
chose Ladera Linda for many reasons,but one of them is to
be close to the pristine beach just south of the Portuguese
Bend Club.I have enjoyed the remoteness and peacefulness
of this beach my entire life,dating back to well before the
Trump Golf Course ever existed.
My specific concerns with allowing this area to become a dog
beach are as follows:
1.Increased traffic and crime,as this would attract people
and their dogs from all over the LA region
2.Increased pollution!disease in an environmentally
sensitive area (both on land and in the water/tidepools)
3.Increased danger to families and other dogs through
"attacks"by other unleashed dogs
4.Overall destruction of the area due to overuse
5.Inevitable use of taxpayer dollars for cleanup,sign age,
enforcement,defense of lawsuits,etc.
2/14/2012 ATTACHMENT F-309
Page 2 of2
I have noticed that,on the internet,this area is already being touted as a
"dog beach"by overzealous dog-owners,who are promoting this as an area
to take dogs and allow them to frolic on the beach.This is not right.I urge
the City Council to NOT ALLOW this to become an official dog beach.
Moreover,I ask that the City Council take appropriate steps working with
local law enforcement to ensure that ALL current city,county,state,and
federal rules and laws are being followed by ALL users of not only this
beach,but all beaches within our beautiful city.
Thank you for your time and consideration in this important matter.
Sincerely
Gary Randall
3512 Heroic Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes
2/14/2012 ATTACHMENT F-310
Katie Howe
From:Skriden,Mona [MSkriden@lockton.com]
Sent:Monday,February 13,2012 12:10 PM
To:'parks@rpv.com'
Subject:Rancho Palos Verdes Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Please allow dogs off leash on this great site.
Thanks.
Mona Skriden
Vice President
Lockton Insurance Brokers,LLC
Named Best Place To Work by Business Insurance
725 S.Figueroa St.,35th Floor
Los Angeles,CA 90017
License #OF15767
Tel:213.689.4264
Fax:213.873.4264
E-mail:mskriden@lockton.com
2/14/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-311
Katie Howe
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From:Jennifer Griswold-McBee [jgrizzy@msn.com]
Sent:Monday,February 13,2012 11 :58 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
My name is Jennifer McBee
I live in San Pedro
I think it's a great idea to have a dog beach at RPV.
We just moved from Orange County and there is a dog beach there.
The South Bay could definetely use one.
I'm all for it.
2/14/2012 ATTACHMENT F-312
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
SUbject:
Follow Up Flag:
Flag Status:
Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Monday,February 13,2012 10:11 AM
parks@rpv.com
FW:Dog beach
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:Fran Smith [mailto:fran.smith@cox.net]
Sent:Monday,February 13,2012 9:23 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
I am baffled wpy anyone would want to close that beach to dogs.I have been down there
many times,with and without my dog,and I have always been amazed at what a great place
it is.There are so few places we are allowed to take our dogs,even on a leash,and it
is such a joy to see dogs playing with each other freely.
I have never seen any problems between dogs or owners.People really appreciate what they
have down there and they treat it with respect.
Please don't take this wonderful place away from our dogs.
Fran Smith
Sent from my iPad
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ATTACHMENT F-313
Katie Howe
From:
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To:
Cc:
Subject:
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Flag Status:
Sent from my iPhone
Kathryn Jennings [kjennings@lbcc.edu]
Monday,February 13,2012 8:26 AM
parks@rpv.com
Kathryn Jennings
Dogs should be allowed at rpv beach
Follow up
Yellow
1
ATTACHMENT F-314
Katie Howe_..,-_._--_.----------_.~-------
From:Conover Deborah [dconover@elcamino.edu]
Sent:Monday,February 13,2012 3:18 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Palos Verdes Beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Palos Verdes Beach should continue as a dog off leash beach.The dogs there are well behaved,
appreciative,and no trouble.Their owners are the same.
Debbie Conover
Manhattan Beach,CA
2/14/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-315
Katie Howe
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Monday,February 13,20124:47 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:dog park proposal
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
From:Epete2@aol.com [mailto:Epete2@aol.com]
sent:Monday,February 13,2012 4:40 PM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:dog park proposal
I am very much in favor,of a dog park at Rancho Palos Verdes Beach.
Sincerely
Eileen Peterson
Rancho Palos Verdes
2/14/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-316
Katie Howe
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
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Flag Status:
Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Tuesday,February 14,2012 3:42 PM
parks@rpv.com
FW:Trump and Dogs
Follow up
Yellow
-----Original Message-----
From:Jim Lehman [mailto:jimlehman@mac.coml
Sent:Tuesday,February 14,2012 9:17 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:Trump and Dogs
Dear Council Members,
I am glad to hear that the matter of dogs using the beach is soon to be discussed by the
RPV city council.Just as something had to be done by the council some years back about
cleaning up the "nude beach"
below Portuguese Bend,something soon needs to be done about cleaning up the "dog beach"
below the Trump golf course.
What made the situation untenable regarding the "nude beach"was not
that an occasional sunbather might remove a part of their attire.
What made it bad was that once the information had spread that there were no rules there
and that it was the "wild west"and that one could pretty much do as one pleased,the
number of people behaving badly expanded greatly over several years.And this was before
the internet and social networking had really taken hold and become ubiquitous.
Fast forward twenty years or so and in the technological age of the present we have a
situation where it has only taken a few months for
the word to spread that there is a "dog beach"with no rules in RPV.
The number of non-residents on any given weekend is overwhelming and not healthy for the
beach or our community and it will only get worse.
My recommendation is that the council get hold of this issue sooner rather than later and
that it make some rules and guidelines regarding the "dog beach"quickly.My
recommendation would include that if dogs are to be allowed there,that a permit be
required and that the number be limited.The funds from the permits could be used to pay
for several "doggie waste stations"as well as trash containers and a removal service.I
don't know if that will help but something needs to done soon.
Good luck with this issue.
Best Regards,
Jim Lehman (Vigilance Drive)
1
ATTACHMENT F-317
Katie Howe
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From:Carolynn Petru [carolynn@rpv.com]
Sent:Wednesday,February 15,20129:03 AM
To:'Katie Howe'
Cc:'Tracy B'
Subject:FW:dog park below donald Trump Golf Course
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Completed
From:Mary A.Toth [mailto:matyi-v-toth@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,February 15,2012 9:00 AM
To:cc@rpv.com
Subject:dog park below donald Trump Golf Course
Please DO NOT allow this beautiful stretch of beach to become a dog park.Do NOT permit dogs close to
the beach.Feces should not be allowed to wash into the ocean
Concerned RPV resident Mary Toth 32316 Phantom Dr.RPV
Thank you,
Mary
2/15/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-318
Katie Howe
Page 1 of1
From:Mary A.Toth [matyi-v-toth@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,February 15,20129:03 AM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Dog beach
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Please DO NOT allow the stretch of beach below the D.Trump golf course to becaome a dog park.please
enforce dog owners to pick up feces from anywhere in RPV.
Excreta should not be allowed to be washed into the ocean
Concerned RPV resident Mary Toth at 32316 Phantom Dr.,RPV
Thank you,
Mary
2/15/2012 ATTACHMENT F-319
From:
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Charles Agnew [cvagnew@cox.net]
Wednesday,February 15,2012 12:08 PM
Anthony Misetich;Brian Campbell;Jerry Duhovic;Jim Knight;Office of the City Manager;Susan Brooks;Parks &
Recreation
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Attachments:Memo from saveRVPshores.com.pdf
I fully concur with the attached memo.Please oppose an RPV dog beach.
Charles Agnew
32261 Phantom Dr.
Rancho Palos Verdes,CA 90275
(310)377-0290
cvagnew@cox.net
2/15/2012 ATTACHMENT F-320
Help Save R.P.V Beach from becoming
LA Coun 's second only llDog Beach"
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Dear Neighbors,our local environment needs your help.Unfortunately this
amazing natural preserve is being destroyed daily and is no longer safe for
children,beacl1...goers,native animals or dogs!
With numbers now reaching the thousands and dogs in the hundreds on any
given day,the solitude this area once prOVided is soon to be gone.The local
environment is being disrespected with human/animal feces/dead dogs and
is left trashed daily.There are many local alternatives for dog lovers,such as
500 acres of nature walks and plans for a regulated dog park in Palos Verdes.
Please consider the impact that thousands of people will have upon this
stretch of coast if word continues to spread throughout Southern California
via Internet reviews,word of mouth,etc ....
Help our community oppose the possibility of this becoming a sanctioned
dog beach by making your voice heard.
R.P.V council is currently gathering feedback from local community to
make a ruling Feb-March,2012...PLEASE ACT NOW!!!
By writing council members at cc@rpy.com
Parks and rec -parks@rpv.com or Katie 310 544-5260
Or write RPV City Hall-30940 Hawthorne Blvd.90275
And please come to city hall meetings when scheduled.
For more info on the issue visit www.saveRPVshores.com
ATTACHMENT F-321
Con's to Proposed R.P.V-Dog Beach
-No longer safe for children,beach-goers,native environment or dogs.
-Heavy impact on local sea life and surrounding hillside environment.
Including the Endangered Gnatcatcher habitat,Endangered Palos Verdes Blue
Butterfly,Live Forever succulent,protected Cactus Wren,Sea Lions,Pelicans,
Hawks,and a slew of other native plants and animals that call these tide pools and
hills home.
-Concern for health issues &possible spread of disease.
-Dlegal-all dogs must be on a 6 ft leash according to R.P.V municipal code
6.20.010 as well as LA County Ordinance,also meets little to none of the Dog
Park Site Selection Criteria defined by city council on 8/16/2011 meetings.
-Greater Los Angeles County also prohibits dogs on any beach,why should this
be an exception?
Currently Rancho Palos Verdes beach has none of the following
No Lifeguard =possible drowning
No vehicular access =slow first response in case of emergency
No trash cans =trashed preserve
No regulations =chaotic setting
No bathrooms =human/dog feces =disease
No signage =do as you please attitude
No dog beach =A safe enjoyable place for residents,visitors and local
environment.
Please visit www.saveRPVshores.com for more info on effected environment,
dog park info,city hall meetings,and help share your stories.
-Click upon the "Get Involved"tab.Copy and paste the sample letter to city
council,add your name 1 address,comments and send directly to City Council.
These letters make a big difference,thank you for helping support our shores.
ATTACHMENT F-322
dt:Janelle Cunningham [caredhead@hotmail.com]
/$ent:Wednesday,February 15,2012 2:08 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
SUbject:Dog Park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
Hello,
My name is Janelle Cunningham and I live at 8 Cherryhill Lane in Rancho Palos Verdes.Actually I live in
the slide area side of Portuguese Bend.My mother bought the house in 1959 and unfortunately she
passed away November of 2010.I still live at her house and have one dog at this time.
I think a dog park at Rancho Palos Verdes Beach is a great idea.Many of us here in Rancho Palos Verdes
have dogs as well as horses.I would also like to see horses down there because I road on that beach on
my horses many years ago.I know the horses would not work as easily as the dogs but I really
believe dogs enjoy the beach and behave very well when in a neutral situation.Another reason is the
beach is a bit difficult to get down to and dogs travel well under these conditions and dog lovers are
more than willing to make the trek.Plus it's an opportunity to open a new business in Rancho Palos
Verdes,a self service or full service dog wash.I worked at one for a friend and it's a great idea.It
would be good for the people hiking in the Preserve too.
I hope this letter helps the beach become an official dog beach.Thank you for reading my email.
Janelle Cunningham
2/15/2012
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ATTACHMENT F-323
Page 1 of 1
Katie Howe
From:Carla Morreale [carlam@rpv.com]
Sent:Sunday,February 12,2012 1:19 PM
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:FW:Ocean Trails Dog Beach Feedback
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Purple
Attachments:puppies Feb 2012 046.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 050.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 052.JPG;puppies Feb 2012 053.JPG
From:john.sattler.1@juno.com [mailto:john.sattler.1@juno.com]
Sent:Saturday,February 11,2012 2:42 PM
To:CC@rpv.com
Subject:Fw:Ocean Trails Dog Beach Feedback
Please note:forwarded message attached
From:"j ohn.sattler.1@juno.com"<john.sattler.1@juno.com>
To:parks@rpv.com
Subject:Ocean Trails Dog Beach Feedback
Date:Sat,11 Feb 2012 22:38:55 GMT
Recommending Ocean Trails for Off-Leash Dog Use
I just returned from this beach with my wife and two dogs.We had a wonderful time letting
them run in and out of the surf and getting great exercise.We always pickup after our dogs and
take the trash back up the trail to recepticles at the top of the bluffs.Today is Saturday,Feb.
11th and we were on the beach about 3 -4 hours ...we saw maybe a dozen people and perhaps a
half-dozen off-leash dogs.I have attached photos.
We ran into a friend heading down the trail as we were leaving ...he attended a cocktail party
last night and was distraught about a woman spouting anti -canine propaganda about this beach.
She did not have a dog and admitted that she had not been to the beach,but nevertheless was
very opinionated.Stating that "hundreds"of off-leash dogs were running uncontrolled,"killing
wildlife","fighting"and "deficating"everywhere.Nothing could be further from the truth!
I have been to this beach many times and had never seen these described conditions.Any trash
that I have seen on this beach was washed-up from the ocean,not deposited by hikers using the
Trump access trail.
Please keep this beach open and friendly to Off-Leash Dog Use!
Thank You
John Sattler,Palos Verdes Estates
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ATTACHMENT F-326
Off leash dog park
Katie Howe
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From:Marianne Hunter [2hunter@cox.net]
Sent:Wednesday,February 15,20126:48 PM
To:parks@rpv.com;City Council
Subject:Off leash dog park
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Yellow
We take our dog down the the beach at Trumps along with a friend and their 2
dogs.So far,we have only seen happy,well exercised and socialized dogs.We
think it is a great way for dog owners to have a fun day with their pets and for dogs
to learn how to get along with other dogs.It's just great to see them all running
around together.GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY!Thank you,Bill and
Marianne Hunter
2/15/2012 ATTACHMENT F-327
Katie Howe
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Jacqueline Ruiz [jacquiruiz@cox.net]
Wednesday,February 15,20127:43 PM
parks@rpv.com
off-leash dog beach
Follow up
Yellow
I have been a resident of Rancho PV for 27 years and dog owner even longer.I strongly
support having a section of beach where dogs can run on the beach off leash.Thank you,
City Council,for considering this matter at your meeting on Tuesday,February 21,2012.
Jacqui
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