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From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO <jdegirolamo@me.com>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 8:14 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: patpoddatoori@yahoo.com; Chuck Stephan; Ron Dragoo; Alan Braatvedt
Subject: Re: Discussion
Please let the update show the continued wrought Iron on both the Poddatoori's side and our side as well. And a
confirmation that the complaint to the city about "Dumped Debris on the Easement" is all taken care of and that
the complaint closed.
Thank You, John J DeGirolamo
On May 1, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@Wya.g_ov> wrote:
Good morning,
Johnny- I just wanted to give you a heads up that Chuck Stephan from KOA will reach out
shortly to you to talk about the design drawings of the easement area between you and the
Poddatoori's.
Mr. Poddatoori- in the past Johnny has communicated with you on the City's design progress
affecting your two properties in the City easement. Please let me know if you would like any
other information.
Tx
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
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310-544-5245
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Lauren Ramezani
From:
JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO <jdegirolamo@me.com>
Sent:
Friday, May 01, 2015 9:29 AM
To:
Lauren Ramezani
Subject:
Re: Discussion
The last time Chuck was there We agreed that I was going to clean up the palm tree in the canyon to try and
save it and he told me to go ahead and pile the palm fronds at the bottom of the canyon that they would remove
it if whether they decided to save the palm tree or not and the City sent the Podddatoori's a letter for dumping
debris.
Sent by Siri, the personal assistant of John J. DeGirolamo
CEO, Johnny's Auto Clinic
On May 1, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR(o-)rpvca.gov> wrote:
Johnny -
What is the complaint regarding Debris? Did you make that or someone else?
Was that to code enforcement?
Tx
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
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From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO [mailto:idegirolamo@me.com]
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 8:14 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: patpoddatoori@vahoo.com; Chuck Stephan; Ron Dragoo; Alan Braatvedt
Subject: Re: Discussion
Please let the update show the continued wrought Iron on both the Poddatoori's side and our side
as well. And a confirmation that the complaint to the city about "Dumped Debris on the
Easement" is all taken care of and that the complaint closed.
Thank You, John J DeGirolamo
On May 1, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR(a Myga.gov> wrote:
Good morning,
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Johnny- I just wanted to give you a heads up that Chuck Stephan from KOA will
reach out shortly to you to talk about the design drawings of the easement area
between you and the Poddatoori's.
Mr. Poddatoori- in the past Johnny has communicated with you on the City's
design progress affecting your two properties in the City easement. Please let
me know if you would like any other information.
Tx
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
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310-544-5245
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Lauren Ramezani
From:
CMOneil@aol.com
Sent:
Tuesday, March 24, 2015 6AS PM
To:
Lauren Ramezani
Subject:
Re: Meeting #3- Sunnyside Ridge Trail
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ckotowski@sbcglobal.net, winton4jesus@juno.com, j1000@cox.net, jeanlongacre@aol.com,
Bojay@dslextreme.com, jdegirolamo@me.com, Irne@sbcglobal.net, PVpasofino@yahoo.com,
patpoddatoori@yahoo.com, pvpra.president@gmail.com, momofyago@gmail.com, beachjake@sbcglobal.net,
sunshinerpv@aol.com
Sent: 3/24/2015 1:49:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Meeting #3- Sunnyside Ridge Trail
Good afternoon,
Staff received a question regarding the nature of the 3rd and final outreach meeting regarding the Sunnyside
Ridge Trail Improvement project. The 3rd outreach meeting will be at Miraleste Intermediate. The meeting will
be more of a presentation than a workshop, with its purpose to go over and continue the discussion related to
the design criteria before preparing the final project construction plans and specifications. At this time the
tentative date is April 22nd at 6:30 pm. I am working with the District to complete the room request. Once
finalized, I will send out an email confirming the time, date and room number.
Staff anticipates taking the project to the City Council meeting a month or so after that. The purpose of the CC
meeting is to ask the Council to approve the final project plans and specifications before the project goes out
for competitive bid.
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Thanks.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-524.5
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Lauren Ramezani
From: Lorraine Kirk <Irne@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:40 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Fw: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project Meeting Summary
Hello Lauren,
I take issue with misleading statements made in the e-mail sent to you recently from Sharon
Yarber. Saying that "the trail has been used all these years", is blatantly untrue. No traffic has
been there in well over forty years. There is no discernible trail. Where is the "existing trail
head" that she cited ? Who are these "people using the trail now who are invading Johnny's
privacy"? I daresay it is the trail backers themselves !
It is NOT for the horse people to decide whether or not to have a bridge, or, the grading
necessary, or, how to accommodate the De Girolamo family's privacy. These logistics are for
the EXPERTS, yet to be hired by the city, to determine.
The cost of the project has been of great concern from the start. I continue to see this as a very
costly pipe dream of a "trail to no where" with an unreasonable attitude, and determined pressure
from the horse people.
Respectfully,
Lorraine B. Kirk
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:23 PM, sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail. com> wrote:
HI Lauren,
I have reviewed these notes, and I take issue with the conclusion you reached that there was, in fact,
consensus on all the items listed. I do not believe there was consensus, though there certainly was a
good deal of discussion. The equestrians, by and large, did NOT support grading down the first 100'
(at a 20% grade) to achieve the trail being level with Mr. Di Girolamo's driveway. This is excessive
grading that is only being considered to accommodate the stated "privacy" concerns of Mr. Di
Girolamo. Indeed, the ironic thing is that people using the trail now can "invade" this privacy, and the
neighbor's windows (those of Mr. Poddatoori) look directly into the window about which Mr. Di
Girolamo expresses concern.
I do not recall there being consensus reached as to the width of the entire trail over segment 1. 10
feet would be great, but it is not necessary. The existing trail tread is about 2-3 feet which is perfectly
fine given that the ground on either side of the trail is virtually level and one can easily step out of the
way of a horse should it become necessary for a safe passing of two users. The biggest concern
several people had, myself included, is what the cost of these design elements will run. If the entire
project can be brought in within budget, fine, but I have grave reservations about that. Thus, I think it
is essential that KOA and staff work to develop two or even three proposals with varying degrees of
modifications to the existing trail so that bids for alternate projects can be obtained at the same time
to eliminate risk of further delay in getting this project actually built.
e
The bridge, while suitable, is not necessary (the trail has been used all these years without a bridge
so obviously there is no "necessity" for one). I will agree that the majority felt the 15% grade for the
trail over segment 1 was acceptable. As far as the trail surface, my recollection was that dirt was the
overwhelmingly preferred surface as opposed to DG or anything else.
I will tape record the next session to be sure there are no inaccuracies in my recollection.
Sharon Yarber
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR(a)-rpvca.gov> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find a summary of the discussions and design direction regarding the Sunnyside
Ridge Trail Improvement Project from the Community meeting held on 2/18/15.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Lauren r ,rpv.corn
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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Lauren Ramezani
From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO <jdegirolamo@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:34 PM
To: Chuck Stephan
Cc: Lauren Ramezani; Ron Dragoo; Alan Braatvedt
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project - Geotech
Thank You all,
This is better than perfect. I'm headed to cut my strings and drive a stake in the ground...
Sent by Siri, the personal assistant of John J. DeGirolamo
CEO, Johnny's Auto Clinic
On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Chuck Stephan <cstephangkoacorp.com> wrote:
This might be helpful (attached). This is the topo map provided by the City. I placed 3 dimensions from
the existing concrete outfall structure to the property corner.
If you measure from the drainage structure as shown, you should get very close to the actual property
corner (within 2 inches or so)
Also, per the topo, the center of the large palm tree is about 6'-10" from the property line
From: Lauren Ramezani [mailto:LaurenR(c)rpvca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:28 AM
To: Chuck Stephan
Cc: Ron Dragoo; John DeGirolamo
Subject: FW: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project - Geotech
Plz see request from Johnny. Tx
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
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From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO [mailto:idegirolamo@me.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:01 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project - Geotech
Thank you for the heads up, I have been in touch with KOA and am doing some hillside clearing
on my side along with the terracing. Can you please forward a few arial photos from different
angles with the property lines I want to feel confident about the markers that I've found.
RM
Sent from the iPad3 of
John J. DeGirolamo, CEO
Johnny's Auto Clinic, San Pedro
On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR(cr Myca.gov> wrote:
Good morning Johnny,
Just a heads up to you that the City's Geotech Engineer will be around your and the
Poddatoori's property and easement site for the remainder of this week.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
<image001.jpg>City of Rancho Palos Verdes
3,10-.544-5245
Laurenr@rpyca.�o_v_
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Lauren Ramezani
From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO <jdegirolamo@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:01 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project - Geotech
Thank you for the heads up, I have been in touch with KOA and am doing some hillside clearing on my side
along with the terracing. Can you please forward a few arial photos from different angles with the property lines
I want to feel confident about the markers that I've found.
Sent from the iPad3 of
John J. DeGirolamo, CEO
Johnny's Auto Clinic, San Pedro
On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenRgrpvca.gov> wrote:
Good morning Johnny,
Just a heads up to you that the City's Geotech Engineer will be around your and the Poddatoori's
property and easement site for the remainder of this week.
Tx
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
<image001Jpg>City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr@rpvca.gov
www.rpvca.gov
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Lauren Ramezani
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:10 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani; pvpasofino@yahoo.com
Cc: amcdougalll@yahoo.com; momofyago@gmail.com
Subject: Re: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Lauren,
To whom, exactly, are you forwarding Madeline's concerns? ...SUNSHINE
In a message dated 3/23/2015 9:28:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LaurenR@rpvca.gov writes:
Madeline,
I'll forward your email and concern.
Thanks
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr@rpvca.gov
www.rpvca.gov
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Thanks*****
From: Madeline Ryan [mailto:pvpasofino@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:16 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
i
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Cc: Anna McDougall; Sunshine Grimes; Sharon Yarber
Subject: Re: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Hello Lauren
Thank you for addressing some of the questions we concerned trail users have.
I want to give City Staff and the consultant a chance to rethink the most critical
area, Area 2, and I shall save any additional concerns for the upcoming third
meeting.
Are we really going to have this stepped down wall with railing on the east side
which matches existing wall, and yet, another style of wall and railing on the west
side? Is there not any consideration for aesthetics?
In my view, if I understand your design features, trail users will be walking
through a corridor of two different styles of walls and iron work! How uninviting
and unappealing.
Please consider the negative impact this will have on the trail users.
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
From: Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@rpvca.gov>
To: Anna McDougall <Amcdougall1 @yahoo.com>; "SunshineRPV@aol.com"
<SunshineRPW( aol.com>; Madeline Ryan <PVpasofino(@yahoo.com>
Cc: Ara Mihranian <AraM(d,)rpvca.gov>; "cstephans(@)-koa.com" <cstephans(dkoa.com>;
"pvpasofino(dahoo.com" <pvpasofino(@)yahoo.com>; CC <CC(d)-rpvca.gov>; "momofyago(@)-gmail.com"
<momofyago(o)-gmail. com>; "ieanlongacre _aol.com" <ieanlongacre -)aol.com>;
z
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"russ(a cheapvintage.com" <russ(�cheapvintage.com>; "j1000 ,cox.net" <i1000(a cox.net>;
"radismith(a)-cox.net" <radlsmithCo�cox.net>; Ron Dragoo <RonD(Drpvca.gov_>; Michael Throne
<MichaelT(d,)rpvca.gov>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Madeline, Anna and Sunshine,
Thank you for your emails. I apologize for this lengthy email. Several items were mentioned
in your emails that are addressed here.
The plans and renderings presented at the last community meeting were intended to present
preliminary concept design ideas to foster discussion and progress on the trail design. They
were not intended to represent the final design.
There is no intention to "delay" this project or to come up with "convoluted designs". Please
keep in mind that it is the responsibility of the City and the engineers to have a project that is
properly designed and constructed to allow for safe passage of both pedestrians and
equestrians. Therefore, some design details may appear, to a layman, to be unnecessary or
excessive or too costly, when in reality they are necessary and needed due to the site's
topography and/or geology. We have been and will continue to be cognizant of the project
costs.
Based on feedback and comments since that meeting, we have been able to answer some
important design questions and narrow down the final plan elements. The following
clarifications provide some additional insight to the current trail design features:
0 With the current plan retaining wall design strategy on the east side of the trail at the 2443
property, the large tree at Sunnyside Ridge Road will be removed.
® The 2443 retaining wall and railing will be constructed on the private property side of the
easement line. The new retaining wall on the east side of the trail will begin at about 8' north of
the garage wall, where it will tie into an existing retaining wall that is within the private property
boundary, and extend south towards Sunnyside Ridge Road. The new wall construction will
remove the existing wall where it angles towards and encroaches into the trail easement. The
existing wall within private property will remain in place.
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• The full 10' easement width will be utilized for trail construction, which may include some
retaining wall support on the west side, with greening features likely on one or both sides of
the trail.
« The existing pilaster at the end of the 2443 fence will be removed, and a new column
constructed on the private property side of the easement line, connecting to the new wall
construction.
• The new wall will not have pilasters or columns at changes in grade. The wall and railing
will be stepped similar to the existing railing at the frontage of the 2443 property.
• Due to the proposed trail grading, railings will be required where soil retaining features
create a 30 differential between the trail and the adjacent ground for fall protection. The railing
will be similar to existing railing at the frontage of the 2477 property.
Finally, the concept renderings will be updated to show the proposed design features at the
next project meeting.
You all will be notified of the 3rd and last outreach meeting which we expect to have in mid-
April.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
LCity of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr crpvca.gov
www.rpvca.gov
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From: Anna McDougall[mailto:Amcdougalll(a�yahoo.com)
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:46 AM
To: SunshineRPVP—aol.com
Cc: Ara Mihranian; cstephansQkoa.com; pvpasofino(c,yahoo.com; CC; Lauren Ramezani;
momofyagoP.gmail.com; jeanlongacre(a7aol.com; russPcheapvintage.com; i1000(q-),cox.net;
radlsmith(cD.cox.net
Subject: Re: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Considering everyone's efforts at communication and collaboration, how does this
"stone" keep getting kicked down the trail?
Historically it appeared "we" had a simple solution for a gross error. This should not be
our burden to bare. There does not seem any reason to delay this correction with
convoluted designs. What can we do to just get this corrected? Does it become a
press issue? Do we bring to light the errors and inconsideration?
Sunshine thank you for all you do. You have provided so much advocacy and
direction. I know many from the east side also share your ambition to get this
corrected.
Anna
Sent from my Phone
On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:19 AM, SunshineRPV(c_aol.com wrote:
To whom it many concern:
Have another look at KOA's page 14 then scroll on down.
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What a photoshopped bunch of misrepresentation.
Starting in the distance near Sunnyside Ridge Road, what I recall as
being stated and no objection was heard, is that the Brazilian pepper tree
is to be removed. But, there it is. See 2004 Section A. In 2004, Mr.
DeGirolamo objected to the removal of the tree.
Even worse, the retaining wall and fence is shown on the west side of
the tree. That will leave less than six feet for the horizontal trail prism
and one branch encroaching in the vertical prism.
The pilaster at the west end of the 2443 roadside fence is encroaching
on the City's easement. If the City is proposing to provide a trailside
fence, it should start at this pilaster. No retaining wall is needed at this
location.
The retaining wall is not needed until north of Section E. The retaining
wall should replace the existing garden wall only where the garden wall
is in the City's easement. Mr. DeGirolamo offered to provide the fence
on top of the retaining wall so that it matches his front fence. I have no
problem with that.
The front fence does not have pilasters in between the changes in
elevation. I have no idea why the Designer is proposing the additional
expense along the trail. If the top of the retaining wall is stair stepped
down from Section E to Section Z (the 2443 side gate), in the same
increment as the front fence, the "aesthetics" will be consistent all around
the southwest corner of the 2443 property.
The City's easement north of Section Z (the 2443 side gate) needs no
work at all. Should the extensive grading (as show on page 14) be done,
a balcony railing on the 2477 wall will be required. Notice the child
reaching to a very high wall. This is another aesthetic detriment which
has been requested by all parties to be avoided and an unnecessary
expense.
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Like I said, the rendering on page 14 is misleading. It does not represent
what Ara has been stating will be done. Speaking only about "Area 2",
more "transparency" is needed before the Public Works Department can
say that a consensus has been reached and "agreements" have been
made. ...S 310-377-8761.
PS: Trail use etiquette indicates that when a pedestrian is this close to
an equestrian, the woman in this case should have stepped to the side of
the trail, have close control of the child (or dog) and should be verbally
communicating with the rider. The rider has the right of way.
<2015 Section P-0637.pdf>
<Sections Key-0635.pdf>
[the e-mail below was sent by Madeline Ryan on 3/3/2015 at 10:58 am]
Hello Sunshine and Chuck
I believe you should've received my public comments on February 26
when I sent them via e-mail CC'g City Staff and as many of the audience
as I had contacts for.
If you did not receive that, Chuck, please let me know.
City Staff Lauren followed up, the very next day, with several design
statements that were never agreed upon by the public audience at the
second meeting. I left that meeting as I walked in, totally unsure as to
what to expect, but, hopeful, that the trail users (the public) design
suggestions would be considered. I have, however, resigned myself to
the fact that there will be a bridge (if funding permits). Maybe this is
where the public audience agreed.
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Also, please know that this trail has been closed to us equestrians for
several years now for varying different reasons. We are anxious to
restore it and boast of another trail link in the Peninsula Trails Network.
What we don't want is a design that takes away the ambience, the views,
the aesthetics of being in nature; keeping the trails, Area 1 and Area 2,
as close to natural as possible, along with natural footing. Sorry, but
didn't get a sense of any of that from what the City sent out on February
27. 2015.
I appreciate your waiting for further public comments and trust that you
will incorporate those comments/suggestions in the final design.
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
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Lauren Ramezani
From: momofyago <momofyago@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: RE: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project Meeting Summary
Lauren,
To whom will they be forwarded? I note that your last email certainly suggests that a lot of final decisions have
been made about all the various components and how they WILL be constructed. This suggests to me that the
third and final meeting will not be a workshop; rather a presentation for the purpose of persuasion. Please let me
know if I am misinterpreting your email.
Thanks,
Sharon
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-------- Original message --------
From: Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@rpvca.gov>
Date:03/23/2015 9:29 AM (GMT -08:00)
To: sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project Meeting Summary
Thank you Sharon. I will forward your email and comments.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
3.10-544-5245
Laurenr@rpvca.gov
www.rpvca. ov
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From: sharon yarber [mailto:momofyago@gmail.comj
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:24 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: (Sunnyside HOA president) (ckmeisterheim@gmail.com); Anna McDougall; Bob Laman; Charlene O'Neil; Clarinda
Kotowski; Hal Winton; Jay Jones; Jean Longacre; Jeanne Laman; John DeGirolamo; Lorraine Kirk; Madeline Ryan;
patpoddatoori@yahoo.com; Sandra Sandoval; Sherree Greenwood; Sunshine
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project Meeting Summary
HI Lauren,
I have reviewed these notes, and I take issue with the conclusion you reached that there was, in fact, consensus
on all the items listed. I do not believe there was consensus, though there certainly was a good deal of
discussion. The equestrians, by and large, did NOT support grading down the first 100' (at a 20% grade) to
achieve the trail being level with Mr. Di Girolamo's driveway. This is excessive grading that is only being
considered to accommodate the stated "privacy" concerns of Mr. Di Girolamo. Indeed, the ironic thing is that
people using the trail now can "invade" this privacy, and the neighbor's windows (those of Mr. Poddatoori) look
directly into the window about which Mr. Di Girolamo expresses concern.
I do not recall there being consensus reached as to the width of the entire trail over segment 1. 10 feet would be
great, but it is not necessary. The existing trail tread is about 2-3 feet which is perfectly fine given that the
ground on either side of the trail is virtually level and one can easily step out of the way of a horse should it
become necessary for a safe passing of two users. The biggest concern several people had, myself included, is
what the cost of these design elements will run. If the entire project can be brought in within budget, fine, but I
have grave reservations about that. Thus, I think it is essential that KOA and staff work to develop two or even
three proposals with varying degrees of modifications to the existing trail so that bids for alternate projects can
be obtained at the same time to eliminate risk of further delay in getting this project actually built.
The bridge, while suitable, is not necessary (the trail has been used all these years without a bridge so obviously
there is no "necessity" for one). I will agree that the majority felt the 15% grade for the trail over segment 1 was
acceptable. As far as the trail surface, my recollection was that dirt was the overwhelmingly preferred surface as
opposed to DG or anything else.
I will tape record the next session to be sure there are no inaccuracies in my recollection.
Sharon Yarber
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR( Myrp a. ov> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find a summary of the discussions and design direction regarding the Sunnyside
Ridge Trail Improvement Project from the Community meeting held on 2/18/15.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr a,rpv.com
www.palosverdes.com/mv
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Lauren Ramezani
From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO <jdegirolamo@me.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:49 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: bridge area
VERY GOOD... THANK YOU
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@rpvca.gov> wrote:
> BTW- I send letters and pictures to the neighbors adjacent to the trail on PVDE.
> Lauren Ramezani
> Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works City of Rancho Palos Verdes
> 310-544-5245
> Laurenr@rpvca.gov
> www.rpvca.gov
> ****The City has a new web and email domain. I have a new email
> address. Please update your records. Thanks *****
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOHN J. DEGIROLAMO [mailto:jdegirolamo@me.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 7:43 AM
> To: Lauren Ramezani
> Subject: Re: bridge area
> Hi Lauren, I just found this email while searching for another in my junk, strange because I always get all your emails.
> I also read the reply to your email from that one equestrian, it's totally obvious that they care about no one but
themselves, we have embraced the fact they were getting a trail here and we're just trying to make the best of it for
everyone involved and so that we can get the best use possible from it. To spend almost a half a million for a 2 foot wide
tried trail nor to take in consideration the people that are directly affected is totally unfair and ridiculous.
> Can you please email me a few more photos with different angles and property line overlays of mine and my
neighbors properties. I found survey stakes in the canyon and would like to be reassured at where my property ends for
the clean up and work that I'm doing down there. As well as the preparations that I'm making for the fence work to be
done.
> Thank You and I hope to see you at the third meeting, let me know when that will be.
> Sent from the iPad3 of
> John J. DeGirolamo, CEO
> Johnny's Auto Clinic, San Pedro
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@rpvca.gov> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> I will be reaching out the neighbors. But I was wondering which property you were referring to? I don't see a patio
close to the inlet structure in the ravine area. Is it the 27804 property?
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>> Tx
>> Lauren Ramezani
>> Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works City of Rancho Palos Verdes
>> 310-544-5245
>> Laurenr@rpv.com
>> www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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Lauren Ramezani
From: sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:24 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: (Sunnyside HOA president) (ckmeisterheim@gmail.com); Anna McDougall; Bob Laman;
Charlene O'Neil; Clarinda Kotowski; Hal Winton; Jay Jones; Jean Longacre; Jeanne
Laman; John DeGirolamo; Lorraine Kirk; Madeline Ryan; patpoddatoori@yahoo.com;
Sandra Sandoval; Sherree Greenwood; Sunshine
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project Meeting Summary
HI Lauren,
I have reviewed these notes, and I take issue with the conclusion you reached that there was, in fact, consensus
on all the items listed. I do not believe there was consensus, though there certainly was a good deal of
discussion. The equestrians, by and large, did NOT support grading down the first 100' (at a 20% grade) to
achieve the trail being level with Mr. Di Girolamo's driveway. This is excessive grading that is only being
considered to accommodate the stated "privacy" concerns of Mr. Di Girolamo. Indeed, the ironic thing is that
people using the trail now can "invade" this privacy, and the neighbor's windows (those of Mr. Poddatoori) look
directly into the window about which Mr. Di Girolamo expresses concern.
I do not recall there being consensus reached as to the width of the entire trail over segment 1. 10 feet would be
great, but it is not necessary. The existing trail tread is about 2-3 feet which is perfectly fine given that the
ground on either side of the trail is virtually level and one can easily step out of the way of a horse should it
become necessary for a safe passing of two users. The biggest concern several people had, myself included, is
what the cost of these design elements will run. If the entire project can be brought in within budget, fine, but I
have grave reservations about that. Thus, I think it is essential that KOA and staff work to develop two or even
three proposals with varying degrees of modifications to the existing trail so that bids for alternate projects can
be obtained at the same time to eliminate risk of further delay in getting this project actually built.
The bridge, while suitable, is not necessary (the trail has been used all these years without a bridge so obviously
there is no "necessity" for one). I will agree that the majority felt the 15% grade for the trail over segment 1 was
acceptable. As far as the trail surface, my recollection was that dirt was the overwhelmingly preferred surface as
opposed to DG or anything else.
I will tape record the next session to be sure there are no inaccuracies in my recollection.
Sharon Yarber
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR n My a.gov> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find a summary of the discussions and design direction regarding the Sunnyside
Ridge Trail Improvement Project from the Community meeting held on 2/18/15.
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Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr(a rpv.com
www.palosverdes..com/rpv
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Lauren Ramezani
From: momofyago <momofyago@gmaH.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 11:00 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Sunnyside
Lauren,
Is the third meeting, expected in April, going to be an outreach meeting at Miraleste, or the Council meeting
where the proposed plans will be presented for further public comments and possible action by the council?
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Lauren Ramezani
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:43 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: cstephan@koacorp.com; Michael Throne; Doug Willmore
Subject: Sunnyside Area 2
Attachments: 2015 Section A-0641.pdf, 2015 Section P-0639.pdf; 2015 Section Z-0640.pdf
MEMO from SUNSHINE
TO: RPV Staff, KOA and interested parties
RE: Area 2 of the Sunnyside Ridge Trail Restoration Project
Attached are three SECTION drawings. The information provided by Staff to date does not illustrate what Staff
claims to have received a "consensus" and "agreement" upon to this detail. The public deserves to see it before
our Consultant starts coming up with cost estimates.
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From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:16 AM
To: CC; Doug Willmore; Carolynn Petru; Michael Throne; Lauren Ramezani; Ara Mihranian;
Cory Linder
Subject: Sunnyside. Save the date. Help me lose this bet.
Subject: Whos on first
Date: 11/19/2014 8:32:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: SUnshineRPVOvaol.com
To: ccLwrpv.com
MEMO from SUNSHINE
TO: RPV City Council
RE: Council "oversight" of Staff
A very peculiar thing happened this morning. I watched the tape of your discussion/decision of Item I last night
and it led into my old tape of your meeting last June about Council "oversight" of the City Manager's Staff
utilization.
That was "serendipity". What surprised me was that the Council voted, unanimously, to let Staff run amok with
a Council approved project. This was your opportunity to direct Staff to direct a consultant to expedite what the
community has been asking for, restore the trail sensibly and soonest. You did not do that.
Has Staff run out of things to do so badly that they have to destroy what we have and then apply for a grant to
pay for putting it back? Have they nothing better to do than hold workshops about how to fix what Staff broke?
This trail connection was both adequate and historic when a previous City Council approved the RPV General
Plan and when another City Council approved an update to the RPV Trails Network Plan.
I could explain to my neighbors that only the majority of the current City Council does not have the long term
citizen's best interests in mind. But, this vote was unanimous.
I am willing to bet serious money that this trail connection will be "obstructed" come the May 2, 2015 Palos
Verdes Loop Trail Relay. (Horseback riders used the new 2477 Sunnyside Ridge Road driveway and jumped
over the wall to carry the olive branch across Greenwood canyon in 2010. Now, the trail on the north side of
the canyon has "gone missing".) The relay "happens" only every five years.
I invite you to agendize and publish a public notice so that you five can carry the olive branch across Segment
18 of the "ideal" Palos Verdes Loop Trail at around 3:00 pm and then join us at Howlett Park for the "finish
celebration" at around 5:00 pm.
Scroll on down. Not all of these people have died. Or, given up. May 2, 2015 may be the first time that the
Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project has had the necessity and the opportunity to celebrate the recovery of a
segment which used to be just fine.
Please do something so that I lose this bet. SUNSHINE 310-377-8761
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From: Madeline Ryan <pvpasofino@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:58 AM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com; cstephan@koacorp.com
Cc: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail
Hello Sunshine and Chuck
I believe you should've received my public comments on February 26 when I sent them
via e-mail CC'g City Staff and as many of the audience as I had contacts for.
If you did not receive that, Chuck, please let me know.
City Staff Lauren followed up, the very next day, with several design statements that
were never agreed upon by the public audience at the second meeting. I left that
meeting as I walked in, totally unsure as to what to expect, but, hopeful, that the trail
users (the public) design suggestions would be considered. I have, however, resigned
myself to the fact that there will be a bridge (if funding permits). Maybe this is where
the public audience agreed.
Also, please know that this trail has been closed to us equestrians for several years now
for varying different reasons. We are anxious to restore it and boast of another trail link
in the Peninsula Trails Network.
What we don't want is a design that takes away the ambience, the views, the aesthetics
of being in nature; keeping the trails, Area 1 and Area 2, as close to natural as possible,
along with natural footing. Sorry, but I didn't get a sense of any of that from what the
City sent out on February 27, 2015.
I appreciate your waiting for further public comments and trust that you will incorporate
those comments/suggestions in the final design.
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
From: "SunshineRPV@aol.com" <SunshineRPV@aol.com>
To: cstephan@koacorp.com
Cc: michaelt@rpv.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail
Hi Chuck,
RPV has sent out a list of 17 statements which they call "agreements" and "a consensus". My
question to you is who gets to interpret the most recent comments into your "final design
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work"? A 10 foot wide trail tread at a 15% slope all the way across the canyon is
absurd. That is certainly not a TYPE 5 trail prism (6 foot wide, 10% average
grade.) ...SUNSHINE
In a message dated 2/25/2015 1:29:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cstephan@koacorp.com
writes:
Fyi the City will be sending out a short summary of the project status soon. You can submit comments
and responses to the City. As for design, I am waiting to receive public comments and then will start
with the final design work.
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:04 PM
To: Chuck Stephan
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail
Hi Chuck,
Please give me a call. 310-377-8761. Have you been given any directions for the
Final Design Plans? Or, are we all just waiting for Ara and Loren to reveal their
"consensus"? (Neither of them are Engineers.)
The trail across Greenwood Canyon prior to the City's vacation of a portion of the
easement and the storm drain work was perfectly "practical". You appear to have
taken on the job of "sewing the Emperor's new clothes".
RE: Area 1:
Restore the trail connection "on time and within budget". Unfortunately, that is Staff's
job. I still have no clue as to the parameters or your work. I suspect that the
"community" will not be able to "enjoy" this trail come the PV Loop Trail Relay on
March 2, 2015. Would you care to walk across Greenwood Canyon that afternoon?
RE: Area 2:
I prefer your illustration on page 14. On the east side, it is essentially the same as
what was proposed to the City in 2004. (And, agreed to by Johnny Degirolamo.)
On the west side, the change in elevation is not addressed. Ye of Section P creates a
"pinch point" in the trail tread so that the slope is on the easement and a balcony
railing will not be required on the Pooddatoorie's existing wall.
The line of sight is adequate for the pedestrians to yield to the equestrian. The same
user modes yield to those going up hill.
See your page 13. The relatively new, news is that the east side garden wall is in the
City's easement. Mr. Degirolamo has every right to apply to the City and replace the
aesthetics of that garden wall on his own property. The City's responsibility is to
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restore and support the trail. Chuck, if your white lines represent the tops of potential
retaining walls, they are too high.
Where do we go from here? ... S 310-377-8761
In a message dated 2/6/2015 8:46:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cstephan(d-)koacorp.com writes:
Hi Sunshine. Officially, all correspondence needs to go to the City, since I am just a hired
advisory consultant and not a spokesperson or representative.
However, they said that I could respond if I do so unofficially and on my own time at no cost
to the City or the public.
So in answer to your question, I have been proceeding on my own merit as an engineer
without any interference or specific direction from the City as to analyzing the project site for
practical development of the proposed trail. As a basis of design, I have started with the
original concept, grant application, public input (from the last meeting), the trail design
guidelines, our proposal, and existing infrastructure and topographical limitations. The first
that 1 have actually spoken to the City directly during the design process was to request a
second public meeting to discuss our findings and recommendations.
My initial design work has focused on fitting a practical trail into the site within existing
limitations and budgetary constraints. I will not be making the actual decisions at this point,
but rather recommending alternatives that will work within the project limitations. The public
meeting will be to discuss alternatives and recommendations. Some items are restrictive,
such as the boundary limits of the trail easement, which we cannot do anything about. Some
items are geometric, such as fitting a practical trail into the slopes present, which provides
limited options. Some items are aesthetic, such as the look of the bridge, which don't make
much of a difference from an engineering viewpoint so long as it functions, and these are
open to various ideas.
At the meeting I will be presenting an overview of the project, and a progression of design
analysis leading up to the preliminary design stage at this point. We will specifically discuss
the trail alignment and slope, retaining walls, railings, and bridge. I hope to have significant
public input and consensus after discussion of each item. If all goes well, 1 will be able to
proceed and complete the design for bidding by late Spring.
For official inquiries, please contact the City directly. Thanks Sunshine.
Chuck
From: SunshineRPV(c0aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:02 PM
To: Chuck Stephan
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge Trail
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Hey Chuck,
Have you received any specific design instructions from the City of RPV? If
yes, may you share them with me? ...S 310-377-8761
In a message dated 12/12/2014 11:14:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cste Phan CcDkoacorp. com
writes:
Hi Sunshine:
You may send information regarding the trail to myself at this email address, or to the
City. Please note that comments submitted to KOA will become a written record as a
part of our contract with the city. You may also submit written comments at the public
meetings
Sent from my iPhone=
Lauren Ramezani
From: Anna McDougall <Amcdougalll@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:46 AM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Cc: Ara Mihranian; cstephans@koa.com; pvpasofino@yahoo.com; CC; Lauren Ramezani;
momofyago@gmail.com; jeanlongacre@aol.com; russ@cheapvintage.com; j1000
@cox.net; radlsmith@cox.net
Subject: Re: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Considering everyone's efforts at communication and collaboration, how does this "stone" keep getting kicked
down the trail?
Historically it appeared "we" had a simple solution for a gross error. This should not be our burden to bare.
There does not seem any reason to delay this correction with convoluted designs. What can we do to just get
this corrected? Does it become a press issue? Do we bring to light the errors and inconsideration?
Sunshine thank you for all you do. You have provided so much advocacy and direction. I know many from the
east side also share your ambition to get this corrected.
Anna
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:19 AM, SunshineRPV@aot.com wrote:
To whom it many concern:
Have another look at KOA's page 14 then scroll on down.
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What a photoshopped bunch of misrepresentation.
Starting in the distance near Sunnyside Ridge Road, what I recall as being stated and no
objection was heard, is that the Brazilian pepper tree is to be removed. But, there it is. See
2004 Section A. In 2004, Mr. DeGirolamo objected to the removal of the tree.
Even worse, the retaining wall and fence is shown on the west side of the tree. That will leave
less than six feet for the horizontal trail prism and one branch encroaching in the vertical prism.
The pilaster at the west end of the 2443 roadside fence is encroaching on the City's easement. If
the City is proposing to provide a trailside fence, it should start at this pilaster. No retaining wall
is needed at this location.
The retaining wall is not needed until north of Section E. The retaining wall should replace the
existing garden wall only where the garden wall is in the City's easement. Mr. DeGirolamo
offered to provide the fence on top of the retaining wall so that it matches his front fence. I have
no problem with that.
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The front fence does not have pilasters in between the changes in elevation. I have no idea why
the Designer is proposing the additional expense along the trail. If the top of the retaining wall is
stair stepped down from Section E to Section Z (the 2443 side gate), in the same increment as
the front fence, the "aesthetics" will be consistent all around the southwest corner of the 2443
property.
The City's easement north of Section Z (the 2443 side gate) needs no work at all. Should the
extensive grading (as show on page 14) be done, a balcony railing on the 2477 wall will be
required. Notice the child reaching to a very high wall. This is another aesthetic detriment
which has been requested by all parties to be avoided and an unnecessary expense.
Like I said, the rendering on page 14 is misleading. It does not represent what Ara has been
stating will be done. Speaking only about "Area 2", more "transparency" is needed before the
Public Works Department can say that a consensus has been reached and "agreements" have
been made. ...S 310-377-8761.
PS: Trail use etiquette indicates that when a pedestrian is this close to an equestrian, the woman
in this case should have stepped to the side of the trail, have close control of the child (or dog)
and should be verbally communicating with the rider. The rider has the right of way.
<2015 Section P-0637.pdf>
<Sections Key-0635.pdf>
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From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:20 AM
To: Ara Mihranian
Cc: cstephans@koa.com; pvpasofino@yahoo.com; CC; Lauren Ramezani;
momofyago@gmail.com;jeanlongacre@aol.com; amcdougalll@yahoo.com;
russ@cheapvintage.com;j1000@cox.net; radlsmith@cox.net
Subject: More thoughts on Sunnyside Trail Project "workshop"
Attachments: 2015 Section P-0637.pdf; Sections Key-0635.pdf
To whom it many concern:
Have another look at KOA's page 14 then scroll on down.
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What a photoshopped bunch of misrepresentation.
Starting in the distance near Sunnyside Ridge Road, what I recall as being stated and no objection was heard, is
that the Brazilian pepper tree is to be removed. But, there it is. See 2004 Section A. In 2004, Mr. DeGirolamo
objected to the removal of the tree.
Even worse, the retaining wall and fence is shown on the west side of the tree. That will leave less than six feet
for the horizontal trail prism and one branch encroaching in the vertical prism.
The pilaster at the west end of the 2443 roadside fence is encroaching on the City's easement. If the City is
proposing to provide a trailside fence, it should start at this pilaster. No retaining wall is needed at this location.
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The retaining wall is not needed until north of Section E. The retaining wall should replace the existing garden
wall only where the garden wall is in the City's easement. Mr. DeGirolamo offered to provide the fence on top
of the retaining wall so that it matches his front fence. I have no problem with that.
The front fence does not have pilasters in between the changes in elevation. I have no idea why the Designer is
proposing the additional expense along the trail. If the top of the retaining wall is stair stepped down from
Section E to Section Z (the 2443 side gate), in the same increment as the front fence, the "aesthetics" will be
consistent all around the southwest corner of the 2443 property.
The City's easement north of Section Z (the 2443 side gate) needs no work at all. Should the extensive grading
(as show on page 14) be done, a balcony railing on the 2477 wall will be required. Notice the child reaching to
a very high wall. This is another aesthetic detriment which has been requested by all parties to be avoided and
an unnecessary expense.
Like I said, the rendering on page 14 is misleading. It does not represent what Ara has been stating will be
done. Speaking only about "Area 2", more "transparency" is needed before the Public Works Department can
say that a consensus has been reached and "agreements" have been made. ...S 310-377-8761.
PS: Trail use etiquette indicates that when a pedestrian is this close to an equestrian, the woman in this case
should have stepped to the side of the trail, have close control of the child (or dog) and should be verbally
communicating with the rider. The rider has the right of way.
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:22 AM
To: Lauren Ramezani; Ara Mihranian; cstephan@koacorp.com; alanb@koa.com
Cc: Sunshine Grimes; Russ Greenwood; Jean Longacre; Ray Van Dinther; Sharon Yarber;
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Subject: Sunnyside Ridge Trail Rehabilitation
Attachments: Scan0001jpg; SCAN BLOCK WALLS TR #2 jpg
Hello All
Since the second meeting of the Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement Project, I have
come to the conclusion that there are, in my opinion, many aspects of this trail design
that have been over -designed and over -engineered. It appeared that many in
attendance, pro and con, user and non -user, questioned elevations, bridge placement,
width, types of walls, etc.
This trail easement, once located on the westside of Mr. Padatoori's property, 2477
Sunnyside Ridge Road, and historically used for decades, was relocated to the eastside
of the property, to accommodate the construction, and is why we are facing the
engineering challenges and financial burden today. Nonetheless, this challenging trail
easement still remains a public easement and a public benefit, once restored.
That one homeowner should dictate certain design specifics, which require more
engineering, and, therefore, considerable more expense, because he "doesn't want to
look at a 15' wall" is ludicrous, because as he walks out his front door he is looking at a
20 foot slope, albeit planted, but still a slope! I believe the same could be achieved, on
the public easement, with the many appealing wall options offered today. (see
attachment)
After listening and reviewing the power point presentation by KOA, which was
informative and well done, I have compiled the following concerns, which I believe were
concerns of the equestrian/pedestrain trail users at the meeting and I will start with
Area 2, the trailhead entrance:
Area 2 - Trailhead - Presently, a perilous section to traverse on horseback due to
narrowness, loss of width, sloping of trail and mature tree impeding passage.
KOA's Design of Area 2: To excavate (grade down) the trail for 100' to garage level of
Homeowner #1 (Mr. John DeGeralamo) resulting in a gradual 20 or 21 degree slope
from Sunnyside Ridge Road.
This excavation involves removing Homeowner #1's non -permitted, non-bearing existing
wall and replacing it with a retaining wall of similar style and material to match the
elevation of the newly graded trail and adding the same decorative ornamental iron
railing that fronts 2443 Sunnyside Ridge Road. Because of the uphill return to
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Sunnyside Ridge Road, it was suggested a horse barrier be erected at trailhead to
prevent horse/rider from stepping out into traffic lane.
Opinion: Keep the trail at existing grade for the duration of 100'. Remove Homeowner
#1's non -permitted, non-bearing wall and build a modular wall (keystone, crib, etc) and
give maximum width to the trail of the required 8' to 10'. This wall could then
accommodate the decorative ornamental iron railing that fronts 2443 Sunnyside
Ridge. Line of sight is superior on trails when elevations remain the same; therefore,
the aforementioned barrier is unnecessary.
There was mention by Chuck that the juncture at the SW corner of both existing walls
would then pose another problem. He did not elaborate or offer any other
solutions/suggestions.
I still believe it would be less expensive to build a modular wall at garage level than the
engineer's plan of excavating and digging down exposing the wall at 2477 Sunnyside
Ridge Road, Mr. Padatoori (Homeowner #2).
In fact, I wholeheartedly disagree with the tampering of Homeowner #2's wall, as KOA
suggested, as it would require even further engineering, a retaining wall to support the
existing retaining wall and, thus, additional expense.
Why would the City excavate this area of trail, risking damage to Homeowner #1's
section of permitted wall, foundation, existing structures or Homeowner #2's wall,
driveway, hardscape, foundation or structure? I could see the City being held liable for
any and all damages, however minor.
If Homeowner #1 objects to a 15' wall outside his home, which will eventually be
'greened' over and obscured, then I, as the trail user object to being boxed in by 5'
or greater walls on both sides, which will never give me the tranquil experience,
ambience and sounds once experienced traversing this trail in years past. Stimulation of
the mind, senses and spirit have all been lost.
The rendering depicted in the Power Point (Retaining Wall) is a perfect example of my
opinion. There isn't anything inviting or appealing about this trailhead with 5' to 6' walls
and iron on both sides for 100'! Any aesthetic considerations in restoring this
public easement have not been extended to the public, but entirely extended to
one homeowner.
Area 1 - Canyon - KOA's design is to grade and make cuts to accommodate 3 or 4 10'
wide switchbacks leading to a bridge at the west boundary. Of course, these cuts will
require some type of retaining wall along with handrails on the sloped side of the
switchbacks.
KOA's design to place a bridge at the westerly easement boundary was met with
opposition. It appears to be too close to a resident's yard and could cause problems
with noise and privacy.
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Opinion: Keep switchbacks to a minimum and reduce the 10' wide width and eliminate
railings. Martingale Trailhead Park is a perfect example of steep trails without handrails
and retaining walls. A minimal disturbance of earth would be preferable to avoid
retaining walls.
Suggestions to move the bridge more to the center of the canyon easement to alleviate
any neighbors' concerns of noise and privacy should also be considered in the
design. Maybe the bridge expansion becomes longer as the ravine widens mid -center
and this is why the westerly boundary area is preferable? This was not addressed.
Thank you for taking the time to review my lengthy interpretation and opinions of the
last meeting.
Madeline Ryan
28328 Palos Verdes Drive
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
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Lauren Ramezani
From: Chrissy K Meisterheim <ckmeisterheim@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:07 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Cc: Bob Laman; Clarinda Kotowski
Subject: Re: Notification to HOA
Hi
Thank you Lauren.
Yes our secretary is Clarinda Kotowski. (cc'd)
I forward her the emails and she either forwards info and/or we include summaries in our monthly minutes.
Thank you!
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR(u My a.gov> wrote:
Hello Chrissy,
I just wanted to confirm that the emails I send you regarding the SSR trail project are being
distributed to your HOA members. I know at your MOA meeting Bob told me that he was sending it
out via email. But I guess he is not the secretary any more. So I wanted to double ck.
Please let me know. tx.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Laurenr@ov.com
www.palosverdes.com/n?v
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Lauren Ramezani
From: momofyago <momofyago@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:01 PM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com; Lauren Ramezani; ckmeisterheim@gmail.com; Amcdougalll
@yahoo.com; robert.laman@dslextreme.com; CMOneil@aol.com;
winton4jesus@juno.com; j1000@cox.net; jeanlongacre@aol.com;
Bojay@dslextreme.com; Irne@sbcglobal.net; PVpasofino@yahoo.com;
patpoddatoori@yahoo.com; beachjake@sbcglobal.net; russ@cheapvintage.com;
radismith@cox.net
Cc: cstephan@koacorp.com
Subject: RE: Sunnyside trail segment restoration. Community Outreach Meeting #2
I look forward to Lauren's response.
Sent Som my Verizon AVird ss 4G 1, D-1 smw--phone
-------- Original message --------
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Date:02/05/2015 7:18 PM (GMT -08:00)
To: LaurenR@rpv.com, ckmeisterheim@gmail.com, Amcdougalll @yahoo.com,
robert.laman@dslextreme.com, CMOneil@aol.com, winton4jesus@juno.com, j 1000@cox.net,
jeanlongacre@aol.com, Bojay@dslextreme.com, lrne@sbeglobal.net, PVpasofino@yahoo.com,
patpoddatoori@yahoo.com, momofyago@gmail.com, beachjake@sbeglobal.net, russ@cheapvintage.com,
radlsmith@cox.net
Cc: cstephan@koacorp.com
Subject: Sunnyside trail segment restoration. Community Outreach Meeting #2
Dear Lauren,
You are an Analyst. Ara is a City Planner. I am a Facilities Designer. When is "the public" going to get to
know what "The City" has told our hired Engineers to design? Trail criteria TYPE 1 through 7 is not KOA's
decision to make. A retaining wall with or without a balcony railing is not KOA's decision to make. How big a
bridge across a little dry creekbed is not KOA's decision to make.
I do not design anything without the Client's signature on a "Systematic Planning Document". We are the
Client. What are your instructions to KOA? ... SUNSHINE 310-377-8761
In a message dated 2/3/2015 7:44:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, LaurenR@rpv.com writes:
The second community outreach meeting regarding the Sunnyside Ridge Trail Improvement
Project is scheduled for:
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Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 6 pm at Miraleste Intermediate School, Room #306
(same room as the previous meeting).
The meeting should take approximately 1-1.5 hours. During the meeting, the City's consultant
will present the preliminary trail design, and discuss the project elements in more detail. After
the consultant's presentation, we seek and welcome your feedback and comments on the
preliminary design and project elements. This will be your opportunity to comment on the
concepts, ask for clarifications, and make recommendations that could lead to modifications of
the design for this project.
Feel free to share the meeting date and information with your friends, neighbors, and other
interested parties.
We look forward to seeing you.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public ffork.5
Lk City, qfRaneho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Lauren,r(&rpv.coi-n
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Lauren Ramezani
From: jlOOO@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Sunnyside Trail
Lauren,
I put in my "vote" for a Type 4 trail to be put in when the Sunnyside Trail is reconstructed. If horses can use a trail then
anything else on foot can.
Best,
Jay Jones
32646 Coastsite Drive, Unit H
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275-6912
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Lauren Ramezani
From: Madeline Ryan <pvpasofino@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:09 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Follow up on the 12/11/14 Community Outreach Meeting
Hello Lauren
Maybe others were able to view the attachments, but I was not.
Hopefully, these documents will be available at the next meeting with KOA. Do we have
a date for that?
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
From: Lauren Ramezani <LaurenR@rpv.com>
To: "(Sunnyside HOA president) (ckmeisterheim@gmail. com)" <ckmeisterheim@gmail. com>; Anna McDougall
<Amcdougall1 @yahoo.com>; Bob Laman <robert.lama n@ds[extreme.com>; Charlene O'Neil
<CMOneil@aol.com>; Hal Winton <winton4jesus@juno.com>; Jay Jones <j1000@cox.net>; Jean Longacre
<jeanlongacre@aol.com>; Jeanne Laman <Bojay@dslextreme.com>; John DeGirolamo
<jdegirolamo@me,com>; Lorraine Kirk <Irne@sbcglobal.net>; Madeline Ryan <PVpasofino@yahoo.com>;
"patpoddatoori@yahoo.com" <patpoddatoori@yahoo.com>; Sandra Sandoval <pvpra.president@gmail.com>;
Sharon Yarber <momofyago@gmail.com>; Sherree Greenwood <russ@cheapvintage.com>; Sunshine
<sunshinerpv@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 12:56 PM
Subject: Follow up on the 12/11/14 Community Outreach Meeting
Happy New year to you!
Attached please find the following follow-up regarding the presentation made at the December
11, 2014 community outreach meeting for the Sunnyside Ridge Road Trail Improvement
project:
• Meeting PowerPoint presentation, and
® Community Discussion Summary
You will receive notification of the next, 2nd community outreach meeting later in the month.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
Sr. Administrative Analyst- Public Works
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
310-544-5245
Lauren r ,rpv.com
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
Lauren Ramezani
From: Ara Mihranian
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:45 PM
To: sharon yarber
Cc: Alan Braatvedt; Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Hi Sharon.
I will watch the video within the next few days. In the interim you are correct that the council did not make a
final decision on the trail but did agree to accommodate the concerns raised by Johnny (I don't know the exact
spelling of his last name). I apologize if I gave that impression. What I was trying to convey to the group was
that prior to the July city council meeting a site meeting was held with handful of interested parties including
Hal, sunshine, Madeline, and Johnny to name a few. At the site meeting we discussed the grade and the
concerns Johnny raised about privacy. Using the neighbor's driveway as an example of the potential trail grade
the equestrians present that day agreed that comparable grade would be acceptable (for approximately 80 -feet)
so that the trail meets the grade of the side yard at the gate at the back of johnnys garage. The group also
discussed the grade of the trail at the roadway and it was agreed that a few feet should remain relatively flat
before the trail begins to descend. According to my recollection (which these days isn't spot on) these items
were briefly reported to the council with direction that we work with him and other interested parties.
To that end, no decisions were approved by the council in July. Agreed. And again I apologize if I gave that
impression and will correct the record at the next neighborhood meeting.
I will circle back after watching the video.
Until then be well and happy holidays! ! !
Ara
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2014, at 10:03 PM, sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail.com> wrote:
Ara,
I watched the video and read the staff report. You know I love you and all that you do for the
City and I think you are one of the bright lights at City Hall; that said, you are mistaken, my
dear, in thinking that a decision was made by the Council to lower the trail to the level of
"Johnny's" driveway. There was no such decision. There was discussion and some support by
Council of wanting to accommodate "Johnny's" concerns, but the upshot was that a plan would
be developed with input from the interested stakeholders, taking into consideration the property
owners' concerns, and it would all come back to Council. No approval of your suggestion was
given and Sunshine was correct at the last meeting (as I thought she was).
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I think it will be very inportant for the Council to understand that (i) "Johnny" as you call him is
NOT the property owner, and the real property owner has remained silent; (ii) interestingly
enough, the owner of the property on which the easement is located has not had a whole heck of
a lot to say; (iii) the fact that people who move next door to a trail should not complain about
public use thereof, (iv) the fact that "Johnny" lives in a horse overlay area and I could buy the
house next door to his and keep my horses on it and they could leave poop all over my property
with the attendant flies associated therewith and he wouldn't have a right to complain about horse
poop (except to the extent it rose to the level of an unhealthy condition or nuisance) because to
my knowledge there is no ordinance mandating the number of times a day horse poop needs to
be picked up from properties lying within the horse overlay zone, etc. You get my drift.
So bottom line is, I think you need to watch the video again and make it clear to everyone at the
next meeting that NO decision was made about the grading of the trail and I think you owe
Sunshine an apology.
I also believe you need to focus first on the criteria to be met in the development of the trail. If
you do not know where you are going you cannot get there. We need to determine what type of
trail is to be built and THEN design one that meets the criteria.
Alan - I do not actually have an opinion at the moment about whether grading the trail down to
"Johnny's" driveway level would or would not be a good thing. That is not my area of expertise.
But if that does become a part of the proposed plan I would like a detailed explanation as to why
it is preferable to leaving it at the level it is at currently, and why any additional cost associated
therewith is warranted and justified because of the superiority of that grading plan. If the sole
reason is to accommodate "Johnny", and there are additional costs that are required then I think
those costs need to be borne by him not the residents, and a plan that best suits the needs of the
residents should take precedence.
Sharon Yarber
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Ara Mihranian <AraM e,rpv.com> wrote:
No worries... whenever you have a chance.
I just want to make sure the trail is designed to meet most everyone's requests (which isn't
always possible), is cost effective and sustainable.
Have a great holiday!
Ara
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:39 PM, momofyago <momofyagokgmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ara. I will read and watch when I have some time. It is crazy busy now
at the office. Heading home now.
Sent th m Jnr Verizon lktvdess 46 i l U smaitphone
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From: Ara Mihranian <AraM p2v com>
Me
Date:12/18/2014 5:11 PM (GMT -08:00)
To: momofyago <momofyago(r�mail.com>
Subject: RE: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Hi Sharon,
Attached is the staff report from the July 15th City Council meeting on the
Sunnyside Ridge Trail.
I also suggest watching the video from the meeting because that is where
I mentioned some of the details that would be included in the design
based on discussions between the neighbors and the equestrian
community.
As for the property ownership, according to the assessor's information
the property owner is indeed someone different than Johnny. With that
said, I still think his concerns should be considered because he resides
next to the trail and is also considered an interested party.
Ara
Ara Michael Mihranian
Deputy Director of Community Development
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30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
310-544-5228 (telephone)
310-544-5293 (fax)
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From: momofyago [mailto:momofvago@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Ara Mihranian
Subject: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Hi Ara,
When you have a minute can you please point me to the meeting and staff report
where it was presented to council and council agreed that the trail would be
lowered to the level of the driveway at the property John D. claims to own? I do
not recall that at any meeting or in any staff report or presentation I saw or read.
Also, fyi, John is not the record owner of the property adjacent to the trail. Isn't
that something you guys should check out before listening to what he has to say?
Did you know he was not the owner of record?
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Lauren Ramezani
From: Sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:04 PM
To: Ara Mihranian; Alan Braatvedt; Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Fwd: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Ara,
I watched the video and read the staff report. You know I love you and all that you do for the City and I think
you are one of the bright lights at City Hall; that said, you are mistaken, my dear, in thinking that a decision
was made by the Council to lower the trail to the level of "Johnny's" driveway. There was no such decision.
There was discussion and some support by Council of wanting to accommodate "Johnny's" concerns, but the
upshot was that a plan would be developed with input from the interested stakeholders, taking into
consideration the property owners' concerns, and it would all come back to Council. No approval of your
suggestion was given and Sunshine was correct at the last meeting (as I thought she was).
I think it will be very inportant for the Council to understand that (i) "Johnny" as you call him is NOT the
property owner, and the real property owner has remained silent; (ii) interestingly enough, the owner of the
property on which the easement is located has not had a whole heck of a lot to say; (iii) the fact that people who
move next door to a trail should not complain about public use thereof, (iv) the fact that "Johnny" lives in a
horse overlay area and I could buy the house next door to his and keep my horses on it and they could leave
poop all over my property with the attendant flies associated therewith and he wouldn't have a right to complain
about horse poop (except to the extent it rose to the level of an unhealthy condition or nuisance) because to my
knowledge there is no ordinance mandating the number of times a day horse poop needs to be picked up from
properties lying within the horse overlay zone, etc. You get my drift.
So bottom line is, I think you need to watch the video again and make it clear to everyone at the next meeting
that NO decision was made about the grading of the trail and I think you owe Sunshine an apology.
I also believe you need to focus first on the criteria to be met in the development of the trail. If you do not know
where you are going you cannot get there. We need to determine what type of trail is to be built and THEN
design one that meets the criteria.
Alan - I do not actually have an opinion at the moment about whether grading the trail down to "Johnny's"
driveway level would or would not be a good thing. That is not my area of expertise. But if that does become a
part of the proposed plan I would like a detailed explanation as to why it is preferable to leaving it at the level it
is at currently, and why any additional cost associated therewith is warranted and justified because of the
superiority of that grading plan. If the sole reason is to accommodate "Johnny", and there are additional costs
that are required then I think those costs need to be borne by him not the residents, and a plan that best suits the
needs of the residents should take precedence.
Sharon Yarber
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Ara Mihranian <AraMkKpv.com> wrote:
No worries... whenever you have a chance.
I just want to make sure the trail is designed to meet most everyone's requests (which isn't always possible), is
cost effective and sustainable.
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Have a great holiday!
Ara
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:39 PM, momofyago <momofyag_ong_mail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ara. I will read and watch when I have some time. It is crazy busy now at the office.
Heading home now.
SQw from my Wiizon Wireless 46 LFL smartpho;c
-------- Original message --------
From: Ara Mihranian <AraM e,rpv.com>
Date: 12/18/2014 5:11 PM (GMT -08:00)
To: momofyago <momofyago(cr gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Hi Sharon,
Attached is the staff report from the July 15th City Council meeting on the Sunnyside
Ridge Trail.
I also suggest watching the video from the meeting because that is where 1 mentioned
some of the details that would be included in the design based on discussions between
the neighbors and the equestrian community.
As for the property ownership, according to the assessor's information the property
owner is indeed someone different than Johnny. With that said, I still think his
concerns should be considered because he resides next to the trail and is also
considered an interested party.
Ara
Ara Michael Mihranian
Deputy Director of Community Development
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From: momofyago [mailto:momofvago@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Ara Mihranian
Subject: Sunnyside Ridge trail
Hi Ara,
When you have a minute can you please point me to the meeting and staff report where it was
presented to council and council agreed that the trail would be lowered to the level of the
driveway at the property John D. claims to own? I do not recall that at any meeting or in any
staff report or presentation I saw or read. Also, fyi, John is not the record owner of the property
adjacent to the trail. Isn't that something you guys should check out before listening to what he
has to say? Did you know he was not the owner of record?
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Lauren Ramezani
From: Madeline Ryan <pvpasofino@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:55 PM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com; Carolynn Petru; Lauren Ramezani; Ara Mihranian;
alanb@koa.com; cstephan@koacorp.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Sunnyside "workshop".
Hi Sunshine
I don't think that's fair to say us..."trail users don't care much about the design
details..." Of course, we care.
Presently, pedestrians can traverse the trailhead now and into the canyon and cross the
ravine, and even make it to the other side to PVDEast! Can't say that for the
equestrian; so, of course the trailhead/entrance is the most crucial restoration for
equestrians and needs to be made safer for all trail users.
This was a very informal meeting and I don't know which Staff you are referring to, but I
did not at all find that Staff was indifferent to any of the suggestions or directions aimed
at them during the public comments.
On a more positive note and looking forward to the May 2, 2015 PV Loop Trail Relay,
let's make this segment, for the Loop Trail Relay only, a 'pedestrian only' on this day
and have a work party sometime prior to that date restore the switchback at the
northside of Greenwood Canyon to accommodate our 'walkers'.
Looking forward to the next Sunnyside Ridge Trail work shop where more definitive
plans can be discussed and what our expectations are, whether a resident, equestrian or
pedestrian/hiker with regards to this very much overdue and needed connection to the
PV Loop Trail.
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
From: "SunshineRPV@aol.com" <SunshineRPV@aol.com>
To: carolynn@rpv.com; laurenr@rpv.com; aram@rpv.com; alanb@koa.com; cstephan@koacorp.com
Cc: cc@rpv.com; pc@rpv.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 12:29 PM
Subject: Thoughts on the Sunnyside "workshop".
Hi trail users,
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The consensus appears to be that trail users don't care much about the design details. Just
restore the trail connection.
Staff does not seem to care whether or not it comes in under budget, is low maintenance or
not and if it gets done sooner rather than later.
It is clear to me that the trail will not be restored before the May 2, 2015 PV Loop Trail
Relay. Give some thought about how to celebrate having a 26 mile long trail around The Hill
when the City of RPV has obliterated one portion which used to be just fine.
I recall that the City Council approved hiring the recommended design/engineering consultant
firm and delays in the process to acquire more "public input". Last night, Ara stated that the
City Council had also approved his design solution for the 10 foot wide portion of our
easement. No public input needed.
KOA, Alan Braatvedt and company, have their "marching orders" which are totally different
from the solution which the community submitted in 2004.
I started composing the following to KOA when I realized that they are not the appropriate
contact persons. Epiphany. There are no appropriate contact persons. The RPV Public
Works Department, the Community Development Department, the IT Department and the
Finance Department each have their own ways of interpreting the RPV General Plan.
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease." For 10 years, the people who have been deprived of
this trail connection have not "squeaked" effectively. It all comes down to whether or not our
elected representatives have any control over the future of Rancho Palos Verdes .
Check out this coming Tuesday evening's Council Agenda. Changing the name of a trail is
purported to meet the Council's goal of enhancing the City's trails network. I beg to differ.
hope you do, too. ...S 310-377-8761
Subject: Apology and questions
Hi Alan,
Please accept my apology for not recognizing you. Given my broken arm, I got a ride to the
meeting and left home without my glasses. I could see that your Section sketch was very
similar to the following.
As I recall, Section P is at the worst case. Mr. Motahari was given the full set of
drawings. Plan. Elevation from Mr. D's side. And several Sections. Everybody was satisfied
with this solution. Even Mr. D. The City received a quote of $8,000.00 to install the wall
pending how deeply the I beams needed to go. Hence my somewhat annual note to the RPV
City Manager.
Is KOA going to provide the soils Engineering or are you going to have to wait for the City to
hire somebody to do that?
Bottom line. Have you been hired to kick the can down the road or is there some hope that
this trail connection will be restored in our lifetimes?
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Lauren Ramezanii
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Hello Lauren,
Lorraine Kirk <Irne@sbcglobal.net>
Saturday, December 13, 2014 7:28 PM
Lauren Ramezani
John DeGirolamo; Chrissy Meisterheim
Sunnyside Trail Segment
I don't know that our SSRR concerns were ever really addressed. As a community, we
expressed our feelings against the project for many reasons, as you know. The horse people have
been adamant and very demanding in their desire to have the trail segment completed. The grant
was approved, the city council provided additional funding, and, the project is in the works. The
DeGirolamo property is in the crosshairs, and, they have been more than cooperative in trying to
resolve issues that affect their privacy, in spite of some derogatory comments expressed at the recent
meeting (12-11-2014), and, in the past.
Our community is still very much against this trail development, as you know. The expense, the
logistics, the viability, and, the safety issues are still of concern to us. The train may have left the
station, but, we are concerned about where it is taking us.
With due respect,
Lorraine B. Kirk
SSRR resident
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Lauren Ramezani
From:
SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent:
Saturday, December 13, 2014 12:30 PM
To:
Carolynn Petru; Lauren Ramezani; Ara Mihranian; alanb@koa.com;
cstephan@koacorp.com
Cc:
CC; PC
Subject:
Thoughts on the Sunnyside "workshop".
Hi trail users,
The consensus appears to be that trail users don't care much about the design details. Just restore the trail
connection.
Staff does not seem to care whether or not it comes in under budget, is low maintenance or not and if it gets
done sooner rather than later.
It is clear to me that the trail will not be restored before the May 2, 2015 PV Loop Trail Relay. Give some
thought about how to celebrate having a 26 mile long trail around The Hill when the City of RPV has
obliterated one portion which used to be just fine.
I recall that the City Council approved hiring the recommended design/engineering consultant firm and delays
in the process to acquire more "public input". Last night, Ara stated that the City Council had also approved his
design solution for the 10 foot wide portion of our easement. No public input needed.
KOA, Alan Braatvedt and company, have their "marching orders" which are totally different from the solution
which the community submitted in 2004.
I started composing the following to KOA when I realized that they are not the appropriate contact persons.
Epiphany. There are no appropriate contact persons. The RPV Public Works Department, the Community
Development Department, the IT Department and the Finance Department each have their own ways of
interpreting the RPV General Plan.
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease." For 10 years, the people who have been deprived of this trail connection
have not "squeaked" effectively. It all comes down to whether or not our elected representatives have any
control over the future of Rancho Palos Verdes.
Check out this coming Tuesday evening's Council Agenda. Changing the name of a trail is purported to meet
the Council's goal of enhancing the City's trails network. I beg to differ. I hope you do, too. ...5 310-377-
8761
Subject: Apology and questions
Hi Alan,
Please accept my apology for not recognizing you. Given my broken arm, I got a ride to the meeting and left
home without my glasses. I could see that your Section sketch was very similar to the following.
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As I recall, Section P is at the worst case. Mr. Motahari was given the full set of drawings. Plan. Elevation
from Mr. D's side. And several Sections. Everybody was satisfied with this solution. Even Mr. D. The City
received a quote of $8,000.00 to install the wall pending how deeply the I beams needed to go. Hence my
somewhat annual note to the RPV City Manager.
Is KOA going to provide the soils Engineering or are you going to have to wait for the City to hire somebody to
do that?
Bottom line. Have you been hired to kick the can down the road or is there some hope that this trail connection
will be restored in our lifetimes?
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Lauren Ramezani
From: CMOneil@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:20 PM
To: Lauren Ramezani
Subject: Re: Reminder- Meeting on 12/11/14 regarding Sunnyside Ridge Trail- Room # 306
I have Re/Max Christmas dinne party on the 11th. I will see who can come for the horse community. Charlene Charlene
O'Neil - Re/Max Estate Properties
(310) 548-3663, (310) 422-1212
Re/Max Hall of Fame
Re/Max International Lifetime Achievement Award
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From: LaurenR@rpv.com
To: ckmeisterheim@gmail.com, Amcdougall1@yahoo.com, robert.laman@dslextreme.com, CMOneil@aol.com,
winton4jesus@juno.com, j1000@cox.net, jeanlongacre@aol.com, jdegirolamo@me.com, Irne@sbcglobal.net,
PVpasofino@yahoo.com, patpoddatoori@yahoo.com, momofyago@gmail.com, russ@cheapvintage.com,
sunshinerpv@aol.com
Sent: 12/8/2014 4:45:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
Subj: Reminder- Meeting on 12/11/14 regarding Sunnyside Ridge Trail- Room # 306
Good Afternoon,
A friendly reminder about the upcoming meeting this Thursday at Miraleste Intermediate School,
Room # 306 at 6:30 pm. The school has plenty of parking spaces.
We look forward to seeing you and other interested parties and receiving input.
Thank you.
Lauren Ramezani
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From: Lauren Ramezani
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:22 AM
To: (Sunnyside HOA president) (ckmeisterheim@gmail.com); Anna McDougall; Bob Laman;
Charlene O'Neil; Hal Winton; Jay Jones; Jean Longacre; John DeGirolamo; Lorraine Kirk; Madeline
Ryan; patpoddatoori@yahoo.com; Sharon Yarber; Sherree Greenwood; Sunshine
Subject: RE: Meeting on 12/11/14 regarding Sunnyside Ridge Trail- Room # 306
Good morning,
The December l Vh meeting location will be the Miraleste Intermediate School, Room # 306 at 6:30
Pm.
Looking forward to seeing you there.
Thanks.
Lauren Rainezani
From: Lauren Ramezani
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:26 PM
To: (Sunnyside HOA president) (ckmeisterheimkgmail.com); Anna McDougall; Bob Laman;
Charlene O'Neil; Hal Winton; Jay Jones; Jean Longacre; John DeGirolamo; Lorraine Kirk; Madeline
Ryan; patpoddatoori@yahoo.com; Sharon Yarber; Sherree Greenwood; Sunshine
Subject: Meeting on 12/11/14 regarding Sunnyside Ridge Trail
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Good afternoon,
With the award of the design and project management of the Sunnyside Ridge Road Trail
Improvement Project to KOA Corporation on Tuesday, November 18th, the City Council has
effectively given the green light to the start of the design effort. Public Works is keen to begin
work on the design as soon as possible and so is inviting you and other interested parties to
the first of three public outreach meetings for this project.
The First exploratory meeting will be held at:
iraleste Intermediate School
Thursday, December 1 1th
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The objective of the first meeting is for Public Works and the KOA design team to:
Listen to what all stakeholders including the neighbors, residents, trail users (both pedestrian and equestrian)
and any other interested parties have to say
We want to hear about the needs, concerns, ideas, "must -haves", "nice to haves" that the stakeholders have
Ideas will include the alignment of the trail, types of materials, width of trail, privacy screening, appearance,
signage and anything else you wish to share
Although KOA will have boards, pictures and images, these will be used to assist in
understanding the concerns and ideas. KOA may offer some suggestions, but the primary
goal of the meeting is to listen to ideas from stakeholders.
Additionally, there will be a Second meeting in mid/late January to show you the schematic,
or conceptual design idea(s) based on the comments received from the first meeting and
applying the necessary engineering standards. Additional comments will be collected from this
meeting and used in the development of the final design.
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A Third and final meeting will be held in February, where the final draft project design will
be presented. Comments from that meeting will be incorporated into the final design and the
generation of bid documents.
If you cannot make it to the meeting, a short summary of the items discussed will be sent to
you.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Lauren Ramezani
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