Appendix D - PT 1Parks Master Plan:
Comprehensive Public Outreach
The following documents is a raw summary of all the public outreach data connected to
the 2015 Parks Master Plan Update. It includes information from the public workshops,
online survey, and emails received from the public.
Public Workshops
EASTVIEW
November 5, 2014 and January 14, 2015 Workshops
Tape Dot Exercise Results ---January 14, 2015 Workshop
Eastview Park
Public Workshop Exercise Results
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Shade Structures Fitness Stations Picnic Areas Dog Park BBQs
■ Great Idea It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Soso No
Wider Walking
Paths
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Great Idea it's OK
Shade Structures
1
Fitness Stations
a
Picnic Areas
2
Dog Park
0
BBQs
0
Wider Walking Paths
0
Soso No
Wider Walking
Paths
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Eastview Comment Card Question Results
Anninval Rankinoi S I a I 3 1 7 1 1
it Responses Weighted Total Overall Ranking
Temporary Dog Park 2 5 7 4 1.29
Fitnessstations 1 1 0 1 3 6 14 2.33
Improved Picnic Area 2 1 1 1 2 7 21 3.00
Eastview Park
Comment Card Rating Results
Impreved Picnic Area
Fitness Stations
Temporary Dog Park
000 0-50 100 1.50 2.00 250 3.00 3.50 400 4.50 5 OD
Rating 0.00-5,00
Summary of Comment Card Suggestions:
Eastview Park Comment Card SUMMARY
1. Additional Amenities
2. Increase maintenance
3. Keep as is.
4. Misc.
# of
comments
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Individual Eastivew Public Workshop Comment Card Suggestions
PMPU Eastview Park Comment Cards FINAL SUMMARY
1. Additional Amenities
fence at east bounda
mall benches under trees
wider jogging path
maybe a fenced in children's
Drinking Stations
are
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Picnic Tables _
More Drinking Fountains
Get rid for Feral Cats
more shade over tables ands Benches
special events one in a while not every week end.
more trash containers
more benches
add 2 more swings
add another larger slide
install a sand pit _
install an area to ride a scooter or tricycle
add some trees
2. Increase maintenance
more bark/chips on path for joggers so that joggers are not joggng on mud
after the lawn is watered.
Daily Maintenance to keep park clean.
Better maintenance
clean up the periphery... bushes and shrubs to eliminate snakes.
3. Keep as is.
no additional Structures, I prefer a more open space park.
No Dog Park
No Barbecues
don't think dog park would be beneficial to residents/neighborhood
No dog park
No loss of open space
Play equipment kids don't want to play on too / boring
adding a dog park is not desirable
Additional Comments:
if east view becomes dog park, design c is the best since it's farthest
away from the townhomes and it does not cut through the jogging
path
Summary of Public Comments from Eastview Public Workshops
• Discussion focused on Proposal for Dog Park. Many reports of dogs off leash. Generally
favorable at 12-10 meeting; very opposed at 2-11 workshop. Funds currently in 14-15 budget
• Positive response to shade structures, fitness stations, park amenities, improved walking paths
• Negative response to BBQs and moon bounces
• Concerns raised about maintenance, feral cats, graffiti, and vandalism
• General desire to maintain low-key neighborhood feel
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Notes from Pubic Workshop — Eastview Park — November 5. 2014
■ Sloped walking area from parking lot — suggested: should be wider, an official
path, less incline, proper grading
• There is junk collecting in the area next to the parking lot, i.e. an old T.V. — needs
to be cleaned up.
• '/ mile walking path — nice grade — it's good that it's not paved. Concern: Dog
Park would eliminate path? No.
• Feral cats are an issue — Cory outlined some measures which could be taken to
eliminate this issue.
• Drought resistant plants suggested.
• Is there a need for a dog park since it is used as a dog park already?
• Experience shows that dog parks become dirt, instead of grass!
• This community is quite serene and we do not want noise, traffic, smells, etc. —
NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!
• BBQs result in more people/noise mess! No.
• One tree on the path — good spot for a bench.
• Is there already a dog park in San Pedro?
• Barking — if dogs are concentrated in a small area, the resulting barking will be
intrusive.
• Dog Park should be located well away from "The Gardens".
• More shade needed, and benches where there is shade.
• Favorable: Fitness stations — do not need to be high-tech!
• Graffiti resistant equipment.
• Unauthorized picnics — trucks driving to picnic table area.
• City will post number to call when a patron seen unauthorized activity!
• Fitness stations should be located throughout the park — not concentrated in one
area.
• Avoid commotion!
Notes from Eastview Park Workshor) — January 14th. 2015
• Would the installation of a "dog park" impact the present walking paths?
• There is insufficient parking at Eastview, as it is, a dog park would result in even
more people coming there
• There should be a separate entrance for dogs
• What material would be used to cover the ground in a dog park — grass, chips,
dirt?
• Dogs barking — one starts then every dog in the neighborhood chimes in
• If there is a dog park there, the preference would be for the west side of the park,
and a much smaller area designated
• There has recently been an increase in crime in the neighborhood and
encouraging even more people to come there is not desirable.
• Too many dogs make the park unsafe for children — Dogs and children don't mix!
• Would the residents have a "vote" on creating of a dog park or not? Will our
feedback really count?
• Other problems in this area identified: garbage, picnickers leaving their trash
around, dog litter, etc.
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• Some residents want to defend to dog owners — not everyone is irresponsible —
those who are should be held accountable.
• Sectioning off part of the park for a dog park essentially results in reducing the
availability of the park for general use by families.
• BBQ's — NO — too much of a fire hazard and with the winds which come up there,
smoke and smells would be directed at the homes near the park.
• The fence on the east side — it's a fire hazard with rubbish (which is hidden from
view when one is in the park) — the fence has fallen over — Resident spoke to
someone in our Maintenance department — no response; wrote a letter to the
Mayor — no response.
• NO skate park!
• The area needs to be cleaned up.
• There are folks feeding Feral cats in the park — the food left for the cats results in
raccoons, skunks, coyotes increasing in number — they come for the food.
• Leftover food scattered by people having picnics also encourages rodents and
cockroaches. There have even been cat houses constructed in the bushes.
• Maintenance and sanitation issues must be addressed.
• Is there any possibility of installing a security camera in the parking lot in an effort
to reduce crime?
• We like the park the way it is — no changes, please!
• There is already a dog park in San Pedro — do we really need another?
• NO moon bouncers should be allowed.
• There is a homeless element cropping up in the park lately — they come in with
hibachis and leave a trail behind-- residents asked to contact the City when they
obseve this.
• This park is very busy on holidays — i.e. Following an Easter Egg Hunt, there
were real eggs left all over the park.
• The playground equipment is not fun! Aimed more for small children — we need
something that would attract older children like adequate swings, rocket slides —
what kids want!
• What about liability issues - playground equipment is constantly under scrutiny
for safety.
• Any chance of delegating separate times for various groups to use the park i.e.
10:00 a.m. — 3:00 p.m. for children; 3:00 p.m. — 7:00 p.m. for dogs? Explanation
was provided by Cory and Matt that there is a Municipal Code in the City that
dogs must be on a leash on public property. Also, how can you control/stop
families with children from coming to the park during the "dog" hours.
• A dog park would result in an influx of people coming to the park.
• Wood chips are not good ground cover for a dog park — they discourage people
from bringing their dogs there.
• A dirt dog park is not the answer — when the wind comes up the dirt flies into the
neighborhood properties.
• More recreation activities would be welcome — i.e. the Movie In the Park was well
received.
• One resident's perception: Those who want a dog park there probably don't live
next to the park!
• One resident, who is not a dog owner, went to check out the one at City Hall
• Something should be done to handle the trash in the park and on Westmount
Avenue — every Monday morning it's disastrous. The residents pick up as much
as possible — any chance of entering into an agreement with G.S. Brothers who
keep the other side of Westmont clean? What about a volunteer clean-up crew?
• Cameras would reduce some issues — dogs off leash; dropping trash, etc.
• Separate entrance for dogs and children — if the dogs are on a leash as they
should be, that would not be necessary.
• Dogs scare children — what about a fence around the playground area instead of
a fenced dog park?
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• Consideration must be given to people who live by the park — they didn't buy
homes there expecting to be across the street from a dog park.
• If there is to be a dog park, Design C (smaller footprint and located on the west
side of the park) should be the only consideration.
• Residents prefer an open park — no dog park!
• More picnic tables are needed.
• What about those people who want to come to the park to read, enjoy the
outdoors, relax, etc. they don't want a dog park there.
• What does the City expect when the Ponte Vista project is completed? They are
already advertising the nearby park (Eastview) as a selling point — more people
using the park, more dogs, etc.
GATEWAY PARK
GATEWAY PARK: December 3, 2014 and February 4, 2015 Public Workshops
Tape Dot Exercise Results ---Combined Workshop Results
Gateway Park
Public Workshop Exercise Results
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Picnic/ Sitting Areas Educational Kiosks Staff/ Ranger Portable Emergency Response
Trailer Access
■ Great Idea It's OK ■ So So N No
Great Idea It s OK Soso No
Picnic/ Sitting Areas 1
Educational Kiosks 1
Staff/ Ranger Portable Trailer 2
Emergency Response Access 3
Parking Lot 0
1
Parking Lot
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Gateway Comment Card Results
Approval Rankinjyj 5 1 4 1 3 1 2 1 1
Gateway Park
Comment Card Rating Results
Equestrian/Emergency Vehicle Access
Interpretive Kiosks and Signage
City Employee Presence & Office
Parking for the Portuguese Bend Reserve
Sitting and Picnic Areas
0.00 050 1 DO 1.50 2.0D 2.50 3.00 3.50 4.00 450 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
Gateway Comment Cards: Open-ended Comments
PMPU Gateway Park Comment Cards FINAL SUMMARY
1. Additional rules and regulation enforcement:
Enforcement of rules/regulations
Keep out signage posted all over.
Police or sheriff substation
Need more big signage; No changes
More flowers in future; strict on 6am sunrise to sunset time; bigger sign or board saying not to loiter
& observe do and don't
We need people parking on Crenshaw to not leave doors open, litter, clean up dog/horse poop.
People are not respectful to people who live here. We want to share but need your help & support -
too many visitors that are rude & disrespectful of our homes. Seems to threaten our safety. Need
more trash cans and poop bags. We feel put upon. When we bought our home no conservancy. We
were promised help but not getting it.
Limited access and enforcement
Problems: landslide area, trespassing, maintenance
Rangers need to get out of vehicles and walk the area
2. Restroom and more garbage cans.
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It Responses Weighted Total overall Ranking
Sitting and Picnic Areas
8
6
8
10
50
82 158 1.93
Parking for the Portuguese Bend Reserve
16
1
7
2
52
78 161 2.06
City Employee Presence & Office
1 12
4
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7
42
76 165 2.17
12
Interpretive Kiosks and Signage
7 8 9 40
76 170 2.24
Equestrian/Emergency Vehicle Access
24
9
8
7
37
85 231 2.72
Gateway Park
Comment Card Rating Results
Equestrian/Emergency Vehicle Access
Interpretive Kiosks and Signage
City Employee Presence & Office
Parking for the Portuguese Bend Reserve
Sitting and Picnic Areas
0.00 050 1 DO 1.50 2.0D 2.50 3.00 3.50 4.00 450 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
Gateway Comment Cards: Open-ended Comments
PMPU Gateway Park Comment Cards FINAL SUMMARY
1. Additional rules and regulation enforcement:
Enforcement of rules/regulations
Keep out signage posted all over.
Police or sheriff substation
Need more big signage; No changes
More flowers in future; strict on 6am sunrise to sunset time; bigger sign or board saying not to loiter
& observe do and don't
We need people parking on Crenshaw to not leave doors open, litter, clean up dog/horse poop.
People are not respectful to people who live here. We want to share but need your help & support -
too many visitors that are rude & disrespectful of our homes. Seems to threaten our safety. Need
more trash cans and poop bags. We feel put upon. When we bought our home no conservancy. We
were promised help but not getting it.
Limited access and enforcement
Problems: landslide area, trespassing, maintenance
Rangers need to get out of vehicles and walk the area
2. Restroom and more garbage cans.
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More restroom and trash cans
Keep it as natural & vegetated as possible; restroom
Based on input tonight, need parking limits at Del Cerro("lot full") also trash cans and porta potties.
3. Keep as is. No new parking.
Keep it as natural & vegetated as possible; restroom
Stop advertising the park
I would like the site to be left as is
None. I absolutely love it the way it is
Leave it just the way it has been & take the Abalone parking lot away or charge more money
No changes from current -Keep as undeveloped open space
Leave it alone
None.
No additional parking
Stop advertising of Preserve to people outside RPV
Control increase in informal trails; preserve undeveloped land
Leave the precious open space pristine and untouched
More trees, grave parking, keep it as rural as possible, keep it simple, keep it open
No crime increase
No increase in advertising attracting more people
No parking, trailers, information kiosks
No parking near Gateway Park
I wouldn't like to see it turned into a park. Massive building and Kiosks
No to the Gateway Park plans coastal vision plan concept
No to all the Gateway Park plans
No changes
No need for more parking
No Gateway; It will be just like Del Cerro problem
No more parking
Additional parking for non-residents
No parking at Gateway
No additional parking
No new parking lots; no new preserve opened; keep open land
No Gateway park; additional parking
Leave it alone; no more people on traffic
No additional parking in Gateway Park
No parking lots, people who will disrespect the area, trash
No interior parking and any structures
Not opening Gateway Park immediately
No parking, picnic tables, etc
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No development
No parking lot; leave nature preserve for nature
I feel the preserve area is just that, a preserve for nature.
No parking- landslide area, land management not wise
You are catering to a very small percentage of the population(both local & public)
4. Equestrian Center
Emergency Large Animal Stable & Barn; Keep connections to loop trail; Horse water trough and tie up
stand; Ranger site/sheriff site; Equestrain Center; Emergency Center/Coast Guard site
Horse/Rider Rest Areas near picnic area; keep loop trail connection, beach access, horse stables,
emergency vehicles, ranger/coast guard/ emergency center park
S. Add Additional parking and create alternative access
Create alternative access to conservancy area or close the area until resolved
I am a Del Cerro resident and the parking the trails has hugely impacted our neighborhood and grows
worse by the week; adding additional parking the lower entrance has to happen.
Gateway Park is critical to allow another access point
6. Del Cerro: Fix parking problem
I would like to see a plan for alleviating the parking and trash problem at Del Cerro before City Council
approval of parks master plan update. Consider Del Cerro Permit Parking, Gate controls, fees, or a
shuttle service(possibly operated by a private operator) Also, public information campaign to "pack
out" your own trash
Del Cerro parking and residential area is really unindated. Fix that. Help us.
Reduction of cars parked near Del Cerro
Reinstate pay parking concept; if people are willing to pay they will be more responsible
Parking along the street -cars facing in -Exterior of the park only
The future for the Gateway Park is Del Cerro. Avoid a forseen disaster
7. Misc:
has quadrupled. Lost people ask directions & don't want to walk back uphill.
Park should open sunrise to sunset
No more bikes especially aggressive,fast impact riding
Rethink the equestrian use. Why do they get preferential treatment?
Those who want to hike the preserve should be able to handle a hike to get there.
Summary of Public Comments from Gateway Public Workshops
• Discussed proposed components
• Strong reaction against Gateway Park
• Concern for impact on Del Cerro neighborhood. Many Del Cerro residents spoke in favor.
Majority of attendees spoke against project.
• Concerns raised about
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➢ safety
➢ access and traffic
➢ neighborhood impact
➢ social media
➢ effectiveness in relieving Del Cerro congestion
➢ availability of other parking lots
➢ enforcement
Comments from the public at the Gateway Park — Master Plan Update
Workshop — Wednesday, December 3, 2015
➢ What are the constraints of this park project? Cory responded, "We are a public
facility and everything at Gateway will be portable."
➢ Are we building this for outside communities? Has any research been done on
the percentage of RPV resident use versus outside attendance?" Cory
responded, "The design will dictate use of the park. We're building this for the
public and with resident input."
➢ Why do we need this? Cory responded, "Preserve parking is limited in and no
formal entry to Gateway Park is currently available."
➢ Comments: This will increase traffic. Maybe we don't want this. Trash is left at
Del Cerro area and there is traffic congestion. Cory responded, "We are looking
at the future of this area and the bigger picture."
➢ Comments: The equestrians feel this is not a good area.
➢ How much is in the future budgets to care for the parks? The City needs to
prove to residents that we can take care of the current parks. The Trump area is
a mess. In the Del Cerro Park area there are lots of people and it is messy.
Cory responded, "Social media is not controlled by RPV."
➢ Comments: The Survey isn't balanced. Marymount College grounds are filled
with cigarette trash.
➢ What is the definition of public?
➢ Eric Johnson said he wants to see comments consolidated that are heard at the
Park meetings. He noted that Gateway has concerns such as; it is a bad location
and it was dangerous when used for overflow parking of Abalone Cove this past
summer.
➢ Comments: Several people made comments about the drowning this past
summer and that Gateway is a land slide area.
➢ Why is the City of RPV putting money from the city into this?
➢ The environment needs to be considered.
➢ Why are we placing people in areas that are unsafe?
➢ Cory responded to the above questions and comments, "We have been
addressing the area's concerns with this plan and he works closely with
emergency personnel."
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➢ Denise Wilkinson: Said she had concerns about the number of coyotes near the
proposed area, that swimming is dangerous in the caves, this area attracts the
young, and this is a careless place for a parking lot in a slide area." Matt: "safety
is a huge issue as is access". He discussed the Gateway plan.
➢ What about bathrooms?
➢ Comments: The whole area is active. 20-30' of horizontal movement takes
place. The area is dangerous. The parking lot will need extensive maintenance.
This area is best left in a natural state, maybe some picnic tables would be ok.
Let's have a show of hands of those in favor of this. (The group didn't respond)
➢ Will zoning change? Cory responded: "This is part of the general plan." Matt
responded: "This is not about structures as we are not proposing any permanent
structures."
➢ Comments: We feel for the Del Cerro residents because of the disrespect of the
area near their homes. People will walk in dangerous areas and are already
there.
➢ Kathy Edgerton: PV Drive South parking is needed to balance Del Cerro
parking. She supported the acquisition of Del Cerro and the City needs to
support this Gateway issue.
➢ Comments: RPV City must have public access to parks. Safety must be the
paramount concern. A concern of residents has been of bikers in this area and
the Rangers have discouraged the bikers. The park is moving terrain and will be
high maintenance for the City. The City needs to restrict parking at Del Cerro
Park to alleviate congestion. Building on an active slide is not a good idea. Put
the park in a solid area.
➢ Cory responded: "Geologists agree that this is a very active area. We will keep
this area portable and this plan will get parking off the road and out of sight."
Cory discussed possibly using volunteer residents.
➢ Don Schmidt of Sea View area stated that Del Cerro parking is bad. He feels we
have an abundance of parking with Abalone Cove Park. How many people can
be in that parking lot? There are problems with bikers in (Portuguese Bend
Reserve) and we are now making this area more available to the public.
Gateway is a dangerous spot. He questioned the overflow parking set up this
past summer. He stated that this new area should not have porta potties.
➢ What will be there? Matt responded: "Possibly a trailer, porta potty, and a
parking lot."
➢ Was our mission to get ideas from the public? Cory responded: "We are hearing
all input." Matt stated: "We will be taking a draft of the Master Plan to City
Council for their consideration"
➢ Comments: One reason I came here to live was the reserve. I want to see the
City taking the trash out and removing graffiti. I don't want outsiders (clapping
from audience).
➢ Matt stated: "The active landslide is unique and comes with issues and is a large
area."
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➢ Cory mentioned the Volunteer Trail Watch group and responded to a question
about the Rangers. He said the Rangers area based out of Santa Monica and
RPV has one Ranger for 50 hours a week.
➢ Comments: Trails are where they shouldn't be. Spur trails aren't being
addressed. Would love to see parking for equestrian trailers at Gateway. The
presence of enforcement has taken care of the bikers.
➢ Is this a forgone conclusion that this park is going to be done? Matt responded:
"We're presenting this plan to explain it to the residents then the plan will be
taken to City Council. All opinions will be considered. Safety is a necessity."
A Comments: RPV must do something about safety. Obtain statistics and facts
first. I've seen a steady shift of moving forward with this plan.
➢ Cory: "In this area we've heard comments that the need is there for additional
parking and there are constraints."
➢ Comments: We keep telling RPV this area is dangerous but feel like the parking
is happening anyway. Cory responded: "We need to balance the people coming
in with adequate parking."
➢ Comments: Others should join the volunteer trail watch. Public funds did
acquire these lands. Gateway Park has a history of being tagged as parking is
needed there. We don't need to expand the Gateway area. When you live near a
park you get a burden. Would Ladera Linda Residents consider parking in their
area instead? Cory responded: "This was addressed at the Ladera Linda Parks
meeting."
➢ How many parking slots are being considered? Cory: 45
➢ Comment: Then put the parking at Ladera Linda.
➢ Who owns beyond LL gate? Cory: "The road is RPV City."
➢ Why don't you have parking at LL or City Hall and shuttle people to the reserve?
The curve at Gateway is very dangerous. Traffic on that road will be a major
issue. LL soccer parking on weekends is a problem.
➢ Where will be the access points be from the parking lot? How many trails can be
accessed? Are there any other point for access to the preserve? Cory
answered: "The idea is to get people on the trail after they park safely."
➢ Will this area be treated as other places with signage? Cory: "yes"
➢ RPV is not enforcing areas now. A woman stated that she called the Rangers
about a glider and the rangers never arrived. She said there are no signs and no
tickets are given out. Cory responded: "The Rangers need to prioritize and after
their shift is a problem for them. Rangers will work at night if needed. Matt
stated that people may contact him to help improve problems like this.
➢ Comments: There is a ton of parking at Abalone Cove. There are other parking
options already. Cory: "There are less than 200 parking spots at Abalone Cove.
This has been a long project and voices have been heard. We are trying to
assess whether Residents want this."
➢ Comment: What will happen is that online media will promote the area. There
are concerns with our economy so will parking be free? Cory responded: "We
could charge."
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➢ What will the maintenance be in the future? Cory responded: "Costs could be
assisted with parking charges."
➢ How objective can Recreation and Parks be wanting more parks? Would an
objective firm be useful to hire? The City describes and landslide as the largest.
Is it?
➢ Comment to staff: Thank you for taking "bullets" tonight. "Clapping from crowd."
➢ Cory: "Del Cerro has 10+ parking spots. I see 100+ cars parking. We need
parking somewhere. If not here then it must be near the trails and off the street."
➢ Will there be a pedestrian walkway to the beach from Gateway? Could Abalone
Cove parking be kept open and/or expanded for additional parking? We don't
need additional parking at LL. What other options have been looked at? Why
does the City keep coming back to Gateway? "Cory responded: "There is not a
whole lot of areas for parking available."
➢ What strings are attached to grants received?
➢ Bring a microphone to the next meetings.
➢ Comments: The City does not have to provide parking. He feels this is being
thrown down their throats.
➢ Jerry Duhovic: "I keep hearing why do we keep coming back to this plan and
why? This is only fact finding. Nothing is fait accompli. The City Council is
ultimately the decision makers.
➢ How many equestrian spaces will be available? Cory responded: "2-3 at one
time."
➢ Why not park at Forrestal area?
➢ We need a corral area for emergency situations.
➢ Meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Minutes by Mary Hirsch
Comments -from -the -public at the Gateway Park — Master Plan Update Worksho —
Wednesday, February 4th, 2015
• What happened with the 2004 Survey that was done — at that time a pool was
included in the offerings and the residents did want a pool _ residents daughters
were on the committee.
• The Master Plan that you present to City Council — will that be available to the
public before it is presented?
• Regarding the extensive movement of the ground — a very active landslide area —
any permanent buildings would not be appropriate. Are you seriously
considering putting parking spots in a landslide area?
• How many current parking spots are there in the landslide area?
• Have you been there during or immediately following a rainfall — if so, you need
big=!
• This area is needed for an animal shelter in case of a major disaster.
• One resident interjected that these workshops are designed as fact finding
missions — not a fait accompli.
■ Is the $200,000 allocated just to build a park? (Cory — no to design and build)
What about ongoing maintenance — Because it is in a landslide area there will be
lots of maintenance. Cory: Temporary/portable buildings and a dirt packed lot —
not paved)
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• Since this is the most active landslide area in North America, and considering we
can't even maintain the road, would the City nor consider that in creating a
parking lot?
• We have an abundance of parking in the 7.2 mile stretch from PVIC to San
Pedro — why create more? At PVIC there are more than 100 spots, cardiac Hill
approx.. 100; Terranea over 200; Trump National 100, with the road leading to
the Club House (Trump National Drive) etc. etc. In total there are over 1400
spots available to the public — for a 7.2 stretch of road, that is more than
sufficient.
• Have you walked from LL to Gateway? Del Cerro is the spot that provides the
best vista — people go there for the view.
• There have never, never been parking problems before.
• The residents of Del Cerro are the ones suffering the pain, the hikers (those
using the trails) have been thrust into our neighborhoods — what about parking
stickers similar to what they have in other coastal neighborhoods?
• Is the City thinking about eliminating street parking in the area around Del Cerro?
We never had the parking problem on our streets until the trail was opened —
they park on both sides of the street. The resulting trash, traffic, and safety
concerns — this as a result of opening the trails, plus the impact of Social Media.
• Issuing parking stickers is not as simple a solution as it seems — the City only
issues two stickers per household — and requests for additional stickers for
visitors necessitates a trip to City Hall — the City would need to issue visitor's
stickers to residents as well.
■ The opening of this trail has resulted in a tremendous impact on our
neighborhood — we need to step this plan in general!
• The reason Gateway Parking is critical — a lot of people have invested a lot of
time into ensuring open land is preserved — parking is critical. We want people to
come in to use the trails/open land
• The City must be proactive./ Do we want people to come? Then we all have to
share the pain. Cory: we need to respect the efforts of those in the past. We
are looking to find ways to control the pain!
• Those trails have been carved out of a preserve — aren't those crevices
dangerous for hikers? Has the City considered the risk. Staff: Yes the City has
considered the risk and are aiming to do all possible to reduce the risk.
• The City/PVPLC has been doing a great job of advertising. With social media —
once it's out you can't draw it back.
• The primary focus is to preserve nature — not to make it available to the public.
Cory's response — the aim is to protect the habitat, with public access.
• We're playing with fire here — Del Cerro residents want relief — those at Gateway
don't want to end up like Del Cerro.
• If a parking lot is established, will there be a fee to park? That issue has not yet
been addressed/resolved.
• A lot of us live here because we enjoy open space. We have to share not only
the beauty, but also the pain. We need to keep an open mind.
• 1 have followed this process — but I'm questioning the need for additional parking.
We must look at the demand — are we going to plow over this land to meet a
need that is not clearly defined? I know Del Cerro's problems, but that is a
separate issue. People will continue to come — those who know about the trails
will come and find a place to park regardless.
• Is there any hard data to prove that creating a parking lot at gateway will relieve
the parking problem at Del Cerro? No
• There are a lot of unknown issues — a parking could be put in and not have any
effect on Del Cerro.
• Has a shuttle been considered from ABC or CH? There would be ongoing costs
associated with maintenance of a parking lot as well as running a shuttle.
Appendix D-14
• Do you know the current cost of repairs on PVDS? What would it cost to
maintain a lot. There are a lot of sinkholes, etc. that result in dangerous
conditions and would have to be constantly maintained.
• Recap: the Del Cerro issue. The land was acquired with no plan for parking for
those who want to use it. The park maintenance crew come in on Mondays and
do a sterling jab of cleaning up after the weekend, however, no one cleans up
Crenshaw — there are no trash cans — so poop bags are left lying around. The
area at Gateway does have advantages —would not result in street parking, is
not in a neighborhood. Del Cerro is heavily visited on weekends — one porta
potty for approximately 1,000 people. The trash receptacles around Del Cerro
are deplorable, and there are none in the preserve. Residents are continually
complaining about rash. Gateway does not have the same issues.
• Parking at Gateway needs to be advertised as an option — after hours use is also
a problem. Need for more trash cans, more bags — there is lots of noise at 9:30
at night — it's unfair! We want fewer people in our neighborhood — not more!
• A bigger sign is needed to indicate the "dos and don't s" when using the
preserve. There is a sign there now, but it is too small.
• If a parking lot is established at gateway, would an environmental study be
required?
• I'm shocked that there is opposition to creating a parking lot at Gateway — the
location is ideal — not butting up to private homes. Safe access to the preserve is
needed.
• Some very distressing events took place over the July 411 weekend when
Gateway Park was open for parking. This is a dangerous area, and the resulting
death and numerous rescues need to be considered. (Traffic Safety Committee
in place and involved in this issue). That weekend was the "perfect storm" so to
speak — with a combination of warm weather, high waves, a iot of social media
attention contributed — hence the Traffic Safety Committee.
• With all due respect to those who want to attract outsiders, those of us who
bought homes here did so because we enjoy the serenity and want to keep it that
way, not attract more outsiders. With Trump National and Terranea, the south
side of hill already has enough traffic — let's not attract more - we should keep it
as it is.
• Using the map to indicate where major crevices run across the trail, one resident
highlighted the risk involved to children as well as adults in this area. There is a
legitimate risk here. Considering that there were deaths when this park was
open for a period of just two weeks, imagine the results of having it open all year
long. This land was identified as open space by those who recognized the
danger — we should listen to them. Open landslide area should stay as it is!
• Resident: one quick question. Those who said there were no homes around the
suggested parking area are wrong! There are problems with graffiti (a huge
Batman symbol) — the Sheriff has been called several times — when walking
home recently a resident was practically assaulted by a group of about 15 people
— more will come — we want to avoid those issues. Have the PVPLC people
been consulted? What will happen to the protected wildlife and native plants in
the preserve?
• Some people here are making it sound as if this piece of land is going to slide
into the ocean tomorrow! Lots of people live in landslide areas — you make it
work! (Do you surf at Lunada Bay? No) The City will not take on more risk — the
dilemma is to let people enjoy the open space without destroying it.
• One neighbor lost his home about 4 years ago and has been unable to rebuild on
account of the landslide — so a threat has been identified. It would be ideal to
have parking in the area but at what cost?
• What percentage of the population responded to surveys?
Staff: We received about 400 responses, of which approx. 90% were residents.
What you're showing us here tonight, is that a result of the survey responses?
Appendix D-15
Answer: Yes both general, and specific to this park. The results will eventually
include what is said here tonight as well as your input on the response cards.
* Why don't we cross the bridge when we get there? If a firm decision will be
made based on public response, we should wait and see.
1 haven't hears anyone talk about the hazard of having ,people cross the street
from gateway to get to the ocean — this is a legitimate concern! (Cane resident
reported having nearly hit several young people running across the street in the
dark -- disaster just avoided).
* Safety concern — you build a park, you have people coming in for picnics, etc.
After picnics, some people light up cigarettes creating a high fire danger. Some
residents are already worried about hikers inadvertently causing fires, and now
we would bring in more people. Our family has been evacuated twice already.
Speaking of fire danger, one resident reminded those present that the two fires in
recent years were both caused by Edison, not hikers!
* Are you aware that in RPV parks it is not illegal to drink alcohol? If I call the
Sherriff, they cannot do anything because the law is not being broken. This
creates another concern. (Disorderly conduct is punishable under the law)
Regarding traffic at Del Cerro — we would be interested to know how many
people park at Del Cerro who are not there to use the trails in the preserve, but
are coming for the view, not to hike.
• If you go to Del Cerro on the weekends, cars are parked along Crenshaw almost
to Crest Road. Lots of people are hiking — the turnover is about one hour. Has
an environmental study been done to indicate what would happen if these areas
were opened to the public? How did Del Cerro get to this point? How could this
area be opened to the public with no consideration given to the impact of no
available parking?
* One resident who has been on the "PUMP" committee for years spoke about this
issue being considered 'ad infinitum'. The committee was railroaded by some
people who wanted the preserve opened up. As a result, some areas of the
preserve are not a pretty sight today — suffering from over use, waste, trash,
vandalism — all to the detriment of the land!
* Is there a reason why equestrian coupled with emergency vehicles?
* If the City Council were to make a "for" decision, what happens to the people who
don't want parking at Del Cerro? The issue at Del Cerro needs to be addressed
-- separate from the Master Park Plan Update.
A rather casual attitude on the part of the City is perceived regarding the problem
of Del Cerro residents. Are the Del Cerro problems being used to offset the
gateway issue?
* Regarding a compromise — parking by permit as they do at Seaview. Some
residents do have horses, are bikers, etc. One lady spoke about the "Archery
Club (a private club) — what if we were to use this land for an equestrian club
(RPVEC) where fees would be collected to join. Abalone Cove has
approximately 200 parking spaces — bikers can park there and bike up into the
preserve.
* We clearly don't want this! We moved here to enjoy the peaceful atmosphere..
With regard to parking, we already have about 1400 parking spaces along the
coast — one solution, open ABC at 8:00 a.m. then we don't need more parking.
The residents of Seaview would agree.
* Last year when Gateway was opened up for parking, most use was by people
going to the beach. not hikers. When it was open, was there any significant
impact on the parking situation at Del Cerro? Crory explained that it was
temporarily opened because of the construction at ABC — no study was done.
* A large part of the issue: impose limited access — rather than fix the problem at
Del Cerro. Does the City have any means of limiting use of the open space?
Cory: this area was purchased using tax payers money so is open to the public,
however, use could possibly be restricted based on ecological issues.
* Is it reasonable to reduce demand? Social media is not controllable.
Appendix D-16
• Since the weekends are the time it is most heavily used (one resident: NO it's all
the time) what about a shuttle on the weekends?
• If 2/3 of the population are in opposition, did you come here intending to do this
anyway, despite our comments? We feel we are not being listened to. Listen to
what people are saying. Even parking placards (restricted parking) result in a
hassle — only 2 placards per household, some need more!
• Seaview residents seem to cope!
• We think the City Already knows about the disaster at Del Cerro — why create
another problem — the Del Cerro issue has to be addressed!
• Let's suppose you listen to those people and issue parking placards to Del Cerro
residents — restrict use by reducing parking (restrict parking on Crenshaw by red
lining) — how is the council going to resolve this issue.
• There is plenty of parking already. Eventually people will find a parking spot.
• The solution — restrict Crenshaw parking and issue placards to Del Cerro
residents.
• As the City is not obliged to provide parking, don't. If people are fit enough to go
into the preserve to hike, they are most likely fit enough to walk to the trail head.
We do not need to create more parking!
• There are other access points to get into the preserve.
• If you limit parking at Del Cerro and do not build another parking place at
Gateway, people will find alternate parking.
• What about the gate that is locked at Ladera Linda? For safety reasons, the
person who is responsible for closing that gate would not dare approach groups
who have set up camp there at night. Resident used to hike there at night — no
more — what about our safety? Unsavory people are already coming in there, we
don't need more!
• Response time from the Sherriff's department is approx. 20 minutes — that's too
long. Reply: Call 911 for immediate attention. That too takes too long.
• Shift some of the CIP money for more law enforcement.
• People do not want more buildings, parking lots, etc, so why not give them what
they do want? Is there only 1 Sherriff's Deputy serving all of RPV? The money
could be better spent on more police presence instead of cameras.
• It's a two mile hike from Ladera Linda to the preserve — if you're hiking you must
watch out for people walking along the road, bikers, cars, etc. in the landslide
area. Now you want to add another place where people can come to congregate
— we in RPV have done enough!
• A unanimous thought — FIX the Dell Cerro problem, - I'm sure the residents of
Del Cerro would not want to create another problem down here.
• What wrong with using the Soccer Fields at LL for parking — Reply: that is
PVPUSD property.
• More parking results in more visitors — there is already sufficient parking. If they
come and find the parking spaces are full, too bad, they will come earlier next
time.
• A lot of people here are forgetting that taxpayers funds were used to purchase
this land — there is a balance to be found. I too don't want more people, but it is
public land and if you buy a home next to vacant land, you run the risk of what
might eventually end up there. A balance is needed — as an equestrian, I use
Del Cerro entrance. We have to allow public access. People come at their own
risk, if they drown because of carelessness, they drown.
• I'm in agreement — people will find a place to park. I don't believe Del Cerro's
parking problems will be alleviated by putting a parking lot at Gateway. Is that a
problem for Del Cerro residents? Reduced parking on Crenshaw (red curb on
wider part of the street) and either a gate or restricted parking (permit parking
only) is the only way to address the problem.
• It's amazing that I as a resident in an active landslide cannot even plant a tree
(not allowed to water) and the City could be allowed to establish a parking lot.
Appendix D-17
• When we contributed to the Conservancy, we were told there would be relief for
Del Cerro residents — where is the relief
• What about increased crime? How much crime is actually happening in the
preserve? Let's patrol it ourselves!
• The Ranger Program was adopted to address patrol in the preserve.
The City has to manage the people — we need to have the City manage Del
Cerro parking — FIX IT!
• 1 live in the Klondike Canyon area — I can't even plant a tree; I can't put a
swimming pool in my backyard — why can the City build a huge parking lot in the
landslide area?
• Has the City thought about the impact of cars leaking oil, fluids, etc. in such a
parking lot? What impact would that have on the environment?
• Can we count on you guys to LISTEN and NOT build a parking lot at gateway?
HESSE PARK
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Hesse Park Comment Card Question Results
Approval Rankin 5 4 3 2 1
Hesse Park
Comment Card Ranking Results
Improved Vievrpoints/Vievring Nodes
Landscaping/Drought Resistant Plants
Improved Amenities
Replacement of Storage Containers
Fitness Stations
Expansion of McTaggart Hall Patio
Trirycle Park
Bocce Ball Court
0.06 0.50 1.00 1.50 2.00 2.50 3.00 3.50 4.00 4.50 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
Summary of Comment Card Open-ended Responses (combined results):
Hesse Park Comment Card SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Add amenities and/or activities
28
2. Maintenance Requested
7
N Res rises Weighted
Total overall Ranking
Bocce Ball Court
5
4
9
2
15
35
87 2.49
Tricycle Park
7
4
11
3
10
35
100 2.86
Expansion of McTaggart Hall Patio
9
4
8
5
9
35
104 2.97
Fitness Stations
10
3
8
6
8
35
106 3.03
Replacement oStorage Containers
7
5
14
4
5
35
110 3.14
Improved Amenities
24
5
0
3
3
35
149 4.26
tandscapin Drought Resistant Plants
22
6
6
0
1
35
153 4.37
Improve Viewpoints/Viewing Nodes
23
5
5 1
2
0
35
154 4.40
Hesse Park
Comment Card Ranking Results
Improved Vievrpoints/Vievring Nodes
Landscaping/Drought Resistant Plants
Improved Amenities
Replacement of Storage Containers
Fitness Stations
Expansion of McTaggart Hall Patio
Trirycle Park
Bocce Ball Court
0.06 0.50 1.00 1.50 2.00 2.50 3.00 3.50 4.00 4.50 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
Summary of Comment Card Open-ended Responses (combined results):
Hesse Park Comment Card SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Add amenities and/or activities
28
2. Maintenance Requested
7
3. Keep as is.
18
Misc.
1
PMPU Hesse Park Comment Cards FINAL SUMMARY
1. Add amenities and/or activities
need wi-fi capability especially for ipad users/better irrigation control.
Flooding in some areas
more picnic tables etc./ Like the park as is -it serves my needs without increase
of outside visitors/ improve lower Hesse trail and plants. Need some water for
plants
Appendix D-19
some shade areas in lower/ trim remove or replace in appropriate trees to
restore neighbors view
xeriscapes north barrier strip more benches to enjoy, ocean views west of
paved
walk -way, improved parking lot lighting at night/ lower Hesse park -small scale
mixed
tennis courts (2) and swim pool (4-6) lanes in corner/ hoa may be interested in
this idea?
new fence along residence on Verde Ridge and Hesse park border/ greenery
at lower
plants and drinking sitting benches/ more sitting benches on upper park to
enjoy view
better landscaping/ trimming of trees, put tricycle park in lower hesse park
game room, bbq pavillion/ better median landscaping
sustainable landscape keep views and bench areas maintained
indoor gym, more things for young people to do/ indoor gym, game room
ADDING STAIRS ALONG FAR RIGHT SIDE AS AN EXCERSING OPTION
BETTER/BIGGER PLAY GROUNDS
SHADE OVER PICNIC AREAS IN LOWER HESSE
MORE SHADE AND EXERCISE AREAS
NEEDS OF TEENS
UPGRADE & ENHACE CLASSES
LOWER END OF HESSE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT SPACE FOR A SKATE PARK
USEFUL CHILDRENS PLAYGROUND W/ CLIMBING STRUCTURES
(SEE LEATHERS ASSOCIATES ONLINE FOR EXAMPLES OF PLAYGROUNDS)
http://Ieathersassociates.com/
BIRD SANCTUARY
REPLACE/ IMPROVE VOLLEYBALL COURT
PLAYGROUND
OCEAN VIEWS
LANDSCAPE/ WATER CONSERVATION/ VIEW RESTORATION/ MORE BENCHES
LANDSCAPE ALONG HAWTHORNE BLVD
BIRD SANCTUARY LOWER HESSE
OPEN SPACES, DRINKING FOUNTAINS
2. Maintenance Requested
need wi-fi capability especially for ipad users/better irrigation control.
Flooding in some areas
more picnic tables etc./ Like the park as is -it serves my needs without increase
of outside visitors/ improve lower Hesse trail and plants. Need some water for
plants
some shade areas in lower/ trim remove or replace in appropriate trees to
restore neighbors view
Appendix D-20
Better maintenance on lower park/ sustainable irrigation and atmospheric
water generation (AWG)
Removal of vegetation blocking ocean views
Landscaping adjacent Locklenna
Improvements to lower Hesse
Trim trees for views
3. Leave as is.
more picnic tables etc./ Like the park as is -it serves my needs without increase
of outside visitors/ improve lower Hesse trail and plants. Need some water for
plants
no skateboard park/doggie park/ any changes/ any changes to upper Hesse
to lower Hesse should protect homeowner views -low shrubs instead of trees
not to intrude on the existing developed trails and landscape
No tennis courts/ anything that blocks ocean view, basketball courts
No active lower Hesse park/ active facilities in lower Hesse
no basketball courts/ no weddings/ no enlarged patio
No trail
No more storage structures
No disregard of teens
No planting view blocking vegetation
No overdevelopment/paving of paradise
No lower park changes -keep as passive use
No new restrooms
No tennis courts, paddle tennis or basketball
No more baseball/basketball courts
No construction no concrete
No Tennis/Volleyball
Misc.
NEXT MEETING DURING THE DAY SO MORE MOMS CAN ATTEND OR OFFER
A KIDS CLUB AT THE NIGHT MEETINGS
Summary of Public Comments from Hesse Park Public_ Workshops
• Discussion of possible future uses and current CIP projects
• Most positive about shade structures, fitness stations, viewpoints, drought -resistant
landscaping, and enhanced amenities
• Concerns raised about financing, maintenance, traffic, views, and recreation activities for youth,
teens and adults
General consensus that no significant changes were need
Appendix D-21
Notes from Hesse Park Workshop — December 10th, 2014
• Presumably money has been designated for park improvements/enhancements
— if one park (i.e. Hesse Park) is not identified as one of the parks in need of
improvements/additions, etc. does the money go to other parks which have
identified needs.
Discussion followed regarding acquisition of Grants, donations, Community
partnerships, Fundraising Campaigns, etc.
• What happened to the recommendations/input collected several years ago by the
Open Space Planning and Recreation & Parks Task Force?
That information is still available, however at the time the recommendations were
not adopted by Council (were not rejected either, just not acted upon). The
current undertaking is a streamlined approach which will include plans that have
been implemented, plans that are in process, will integrate what's been done
and what is recommended — the plan is to take it to Council in April 2015.
• Keep Hesse Park as it is — improve the landscaping, irrigation, more picnic
tables, but NO MAJOR changes. Maintenance issues need to be addressed —
not additional structures.
• WiFi Access — how far out does it extend — are there plans to improve access?
• Fitness Stations — limited support — how many would be installed and where? —
no one expressed any grave concerns
• Bocce Ball court — no comments
• Tricycle Park — suggestion to identify a small area near the picnic area which
would make it convenient for parents to take tricycles out of the car and brought
to the tricycle park. Some concern expressed that it would impact the walking
path. One resident suggested the area north of the Flagpole.
• Enhancements to present facilities — i.e. upgrade benches, picnic tables, provide
some shade areas, etc. — No objections raised.
• CONCERNS:
- Slope of Locklenna — speed is an issue. People exiting the park do not see
a need to stop before entering onto Locklenna — need a visible STOP sign
there. Traffic studies would have to be conducted, which would include
impact of slope and access to Lower Hesse Park.
Buffer area — there must ALWAYS be a buffer area between the park and the
private homes on the north side. The present buffer area is home to birds,
snares, etc. and the fence is in deplorable condition, completely rotten — has
been there for over 30 years — is there some plan to improve/replace the
fence? A fence is needed to keep people out and dogs in. — what about
considering drought resistant plants instead of a fence?
Cory will interface with Public Works regarding the fence/buffer — residents
will have input into whatever is decided.
- Walking Path — the walking ,path needs to have identification markers as to
where it begins and where it ends — a better 'ob needs to be done of
integrating the path. Also, a surface material similar to what has been used at
Ocean Front Estates should be explored.
- Views — must be maintained —residents bought their homes here because of
tie views of the ocean. Anything constructed at Lower Hesse Park would
impact ocean views.
Appendix D-22
The City must review it's own ordinances regarding View Restoration — there
are some huge trees which are now 4 times as high as they should be. What
can be done to trim/replace the tall trees to restore the resident's views. The
park is great, but impact of the trees is definitely an issue.
City: Are we out of compliance? What is the height limitation?
One resident pointed out that there are three very nice benches facing out
toward the ocean, however, when you sit there, you can see at least 50 pine
trees between the benches and the ocean.
Trees tend to result in children's play areas being very cold. Any shade
structures in the upper area, must be lower than the tree line.
The tree roots along Locklenna Drive are creating "speed bumps".
Maintenance trucks need to use established paths, not create new ones to
save a few minutes.
- BBQs — need upgrading — there is no place for user's to dispose of hot coals.
Storage Containers in the middle of the parking lot — perhaps they could be
relocated to the area behind the kitchen patio; a more permanent storage
solution should be looked into.
- Expansion of patio off McTaggert Hall — City will look into pushing it out
approximately 10 feet — Residents strongly apposed to use of this area for
wedding ceremonies, as they believe that would result in limited use of the
park by residents. City staff explained that we already have weddings there
and they do not impact public use of the park facifities — expansion of the
patio would just provide more space for wedding patrons.
Landscaping — use of drought resistant plants, recirculation of water, look into
AWG (Atmospheric Water Generation) capturing water/dew that is on the
ground in the morning. Does Lower Hesse Park have an irrigation system? It
seems sprinklers are always leaking and water being wasted.
Safety/Security Concerns: The 47 steps down to Locklenna Drive (railroad
ties) are consistently full of mud and dirt — resulting in slippery conditions,
especially during wet weather. (One resident sprained her ankle on those
steps last year). Some security measures should be taken to keep gangs/bad
elements from coming into the park during the night -- electronic surveillance
cameras, more police patrols, elimination of dark obscured areas where they
can congregate? What about park perimeter surveillance? Residents
reminded that the Sherriff's office should be notified first when trouble is
suspected/known, and secondly, please notify the City as well.
Basketball courts tend to bring in more of the unwanted element.
Is there a Neighborhood Blog where residents can be kept up to date on
activity in their neighborhood? Yes Nextdoor.com. Neighborhood Watch is
also a highly successful organization.
Appendix D-23
Recreational Activities — Hesse Park needs a game room, ping pong tables
for youth activities.
Group picnics- groups tend to amass tables in one area making it difficult for
individuals to find picnic tables. Is it possible to make some clusters of tables,
as well as scattered tables for those who are not in large groups?
Adult groups? is there anything underway to develop adult groups — i.e. card
playing, bingo, book reading clubs, etc.
Erosion — Where the benches looking out toward the ocean are loc ated, the
edge of the field is constantly creeping back to the sidewalk — perhaps a
retaining wall is needed.
One resident expressed his thanks to John Freeman, Noel Park, Les Chapin,
and Jim Moore for representing the community on the Hesse Park Plan.
Meeting notes from HP 2/11/15 Parks Master Plan Update:
• Comment: Nothing has changed with the park in 30 years. Disappointed that
HOA's come to meetings and "own" the park. Feels nothing is happening with
change to park. No teen activities are available.
• Cory — comment cards are used to assist decisions.
• Matt — these meetings are being used to solicit idea from residents.
• Comment: Hundreds of people were given information in the past and the
answers are consistent. Decisions are made by those that come to meetings.
• Is the plan still to build tennis courts at Lower Hesse Park?
• Matt — the majority of the area is in a planning design phase.
• Comment: Lower Hesse Park looks beautiful now. Mowing looks great.
• Is this (HP) facility going to be used for City Council? Matt — the long term plan
may be to use city Hall for City Council chambers. At this time Hesse Park is
being used for the meetings.
• Is fiber optic coming into the Hesse Park building? A resident was told that
Verizon won't use fiber optics for area homes.
• Why do we have WIFI at Hesse Park? Nancie — computers aren't available and
are slow. Would enhance staff accessibility. Carolynn Petru — the fiber
connection will be used to connect Ryan Park and Hesse Park with City Hall.
This will assist staff to log into city Hall systems.
• Is it worth $260,000? Cory — yes, for emergency evacuation site if needed.
• Have you looked into microwave? Yes, this is available now but is not very
strong.
• What's the yearly electric bill at Hesse Park?
• Are these flat panels, as we're concerned about views in the area?
• Can the city get solar panels? This is free, why doesn't the city use this?
• Have you looked into battery solar storage?
• Cory — said that they will talk to DPW about parking lighting.
• Can you get rid of some trees in the parking lot? Other comment was that they
like the trees.
Appendix D-24
• Is it ok within the city to have active and passive in a park? Yes — per Matt and
Cory.
• Comment: she is involved with a moms group in the area and supports the
tricycle idea.
• What's the difference between Bocce courts? Matt described lower and
elaborate courts.
• Comment: Like the idea of shade. Public brings poles to set up when picnicking.
• Have other parks shown desire for changes at these meetings? Matt discussed
the responses at each park.
• What's in the storage containers? Emergency supplies and storage of sports
equipment. Nancie — this room is our largest room. Tiny patio though. Fireside
room small and has larger patio.
• We have to store soccer items? Nancie — we allow girls softball and AYSO to
use storage. Matt — this is common. Nancie — they brought the container in.
They pay for rental of fields.
• Comment: other cities don't allow storage containers.
• Matt — suggestions have been to make them more attractive or conceal them.
• Comment: He does lots of exercising in the park. Will you create dog free area?
Concerns with dog poop getting on feet and stroller wheels.
• Matt — the dog park at city hall site is available. Nancie — a dog park at Lower
Hesse Park was rejected previously.
• Comments: Very nice dog park at city hall.
• Do dogs have to be on a leash in parks? Yes.
• What do we do when we see a dog off leash? Tell staff.
• Any plants added in the parks need to be drought tolerant.
• Consider a lot of the activities are covered by other facilities. Cory — we're
looking at patterns and trends.
• Comment: road biking popular here. Having bike lanes is good.
• Is there a number to have surveys be relevant? Matt — using as a tool but isn't
perfect. Will submit to city council as just that.
• Comment: this type of survey is non-scientific and doesn't show the majority of
feedback.
• What's the city population? #42,000 — matt
• Do fitness stations increase liability to the city? Matt — we need to manage the
equipment properly and ensure the design is appropriate.
• Comment: the trees weren't thoughtfully planted. Do roots in the parking lot
create problems with the asphalt? Yes — Matt said the parking lot issues will be
addressed soon by DPW>
• Comment: Trees are planted hodge podge. Someone with more knowledge of
trees should be looking into this. Cory- he can ask DPW to address this.
• Comment: trees were a mistake in RPV>
• If a homeowner has a problem with their view they can contact John Alvarez at
City Hall. There is a process.
• Comment: they have worked with John Alvarez and he's very responsive and
professional.
Appendix D-25
• Comment: if you have a file with the City to prove your view the city will take
care of removal but with no file you pay for it.
• What is the maximum height of trees? 16' per Matt
• Carolynn Petru — the parcel tax was in the 1990's. She is not aware of any other
tax. There is an environmental excise tax.
• Comment: thanks for hosing these meetings. Doing it ourselves is great instead
of outsourcing it.
• Request: as the city to expand its classes. Especially teen activities. Would like
to see online sign up for classes.
• Comment: if we get more rain we need to get in there and mow earlier before
seeds develop in lower hesse park. Suggest 2, 3 or 4 times a year.
• Cory — has talked to DPW to have a schedule for mowing.
• Suggestion: bird or butterfly area in Lower Hesse Park. Should we add this to
our enhancements?
• Comment: is City Hall looking at view restoration? The process is overwhelming.
Cory — he would like to phase in trees and not cut all of them down.
• Comment: He has contacted the city about trees and views and the city has
been very responsive.
• Comment — a great idea is to create a bird sanctuary.
Appendix D-26
LADERA LINDA
Ladera Linda November 12, 2014 and January 21, 2015 Workshops
Tape Dot Exercise Results ---Combined Workshop
Ladera Linda Community Center
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
40
3s
30
25
20
15
10
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■ Great Idea It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Great Idea It's OK 5050 N0
Multi -Use Playing Field 7
Fitness Stations on Walking Path =7 13
Bocce Courts 10i 14
Sheriff/Ranger Drop in Office 2A 6
Paddle/T!e�jnic Courts 11
Pool 4- 1
Ambulance Center a _ O
Ladera Linda Community Center
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
40
35
?0
25
20
is
Q I■ ■ IIS 1 1 _
Park Amenities New Community Dog Park Nature Center Gym Tricycle Course
Center
■ Great Idea It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Great
Idea It's OK So Sa No
Shade/tables/BBQ 9
New Community Center N 5
Dag Park 3
Nature Center 6
Gym 2
Tricycle Course 10
Appendix D-27
Ladera Linda Comment Card Question Results
Ladera Linda Comment Card SUMMARY
# of
comments
13
1. Additional Activities
2. enforcement/maintenance
3. Keep as is
10
19
Aooroval Rankine 5 1 4 1 3 1 2 1 1
New Comm unity Ce mar
N atur a Ce ntef fere ie Ne Ne NIL
Park Ranger,rSheriff prop -In Office
Walkinr Paths with Ftness5t ations
Multi-Ux Field,
Improved Amenities
Paddle Tennis Courts. -Tenni. Court.
T rK}cie Pa rY.
Bocce Ball Courts
IS y
Pool
0o6 Park
Ladera Linda Forrestal
Comment Card Rating Responses
000 050 100 1 50 200 280 3.00 350 400 450 500
Rating 0 00-5.00
Appendix D-28
NResponses
Weighted Total
Overall Ranking
Dag Park
3
1
1 4
1
24
33
57
L73
Pool
5
0
8
2
20
35
73
L09
Gym
5
2
6
2
19
34
74
2.18
Bocce Ball Courts
4
3
11
5
8
31
83
2,68
Tricycle Park
7
4
8
2
11
32
90
Lai
Paddle Tennis Courts/Tennis Courts
5
6
10
7
4
32
97
3.03
Improved Amenities
7
7
7
5
5
31 1
99
3.19
Multi -Use Fields
11
7
8
5
2
33
119
3.61
Walking Pathswith FitnessStations
17
4
8
3
2
34
133
3.91
ParkRangerjSheriffDrop-In Office
19
3
6
2
4
34
133
3.91
Nature Center/PreserveNexus
14
9
S
2
1
34
135
3,97
New Community Center
21 1
5
4
1
3
34
142 1
4.18
New Comm unity Ce mar
N atur a Ce ntef fere ie Ne Ne NIL
Park Ranger,rSheriff prop -In Office
Walkinr Paths with Ftness5t ations
Multi-Ux Field,
Improved Amenities
Paddle Tennis Courts. -Tenni. Court.
T rK}cie Pa rY.
Bocce Ball Courts
IS y
Pool
0o6 Park
Ladera Linda Forrestal
Comment Card Rating Responses
000 050 100 1 50 200 280 3.00 350 400 450 500
Rating 0 00-5.00
Appendix D-28
PMPU Ladera Linda Comment Cards FINAL Summary
1. Additional Activities
Evening lectures daytime senior services Friday popcorn movies
Enlarge discovery room, trycicle park, walking paths w/par course, playground
Soccer fields
Community Center w/ kitchen & audio visual equip
bring back the tall big backboard on the paved area (near the sandbox)
skatepark, balance beams, bars for calisthetics
senior exercises senior classes in general
Running track would probably be popular
more activities for youth and seniors. Increased sheriff and ranger patrol
community center events
pathway lighting on staircase leading to seaview. Many community members use
it for exercise in early morning/evening playground equipment for children is very
important. Older kid/younger kid sections. Improved picnic areas shade
the "placeholder" list plus Forrestal Preserve is a pretty good starting point
structures and view points keep low key
2. Enforcement/maintenance
Speed bumps on forrestal. Left turn lane from forrestal to san pedro
Better lighting. More red zone no parking in front of neighboring homes
Stop sign at Forrestal and Pirate Drive
better maintenance of buildings & landscaping.
Consistently close and lock gate to parking lot at night
more activities for youth and seniors. Increased sheriff and ranger patrol
pathway lighting on staircase leading to seaview. Many community members use
Too many people from outside the community coming in and causing traffic problems
headlights -safety for young children and elderly
bright lights at night windows lighting that impinges on neighbors privacy
and enjoyment of property.
3. Keep as is.
Keep it as it is
No changes
keep it simple modest don't attract a lot of people
open space low key park, to limit outside city use
keep it modest, no big draw facilities
Good point Ladera Linda having only one route/access in and out on Forrestal.
anything that will attract more traffic, crime, noise, etc
No more fields added No Dog Park No Wild Parties, loud music
definitely no skateboard park prefer ambulance station located at cityhall
less parking, no littering leashless dogs, loud vehicles
No bringing more people into area
Appendix D-29
No food trucks
Homeowners will be extremely affected by any increase in traffic -noise -
No loud sports with yelling yelling and whistles on lower field
No skate park or dog park. Overt crowding security concern
Don't want cityhall to move to ladera.
don't want any major change of the parks
no changes
No pool.....small library..... no dog park ... no gym No skate park
Summary of Public Comments From Ladera Linda Public Workshops
Discussion of possible future uses.
Strong response to new community center, nature center, multi -use field, fitness station, Sheriff/Ranger
drop-in office
Strong opposition to pool, gym, dog park, BBQs
Concerns
➢ Keep low-key neighborhood feel
➢ Pro Community Center
➢ Traffic, crime, litter, vandalism
➢ Use of fields/facilities by outside groups
Meeting notes from LL Public Workshop November 12, 2014
• Traffic — with possible upgrades to the park, has the impact of increased traffic
been considered
• Maintenance — upgrades would result in more maintenance
• Gate? — how about a gate at the entrance to Forrestal (making it a "gated
community".)
• Soccer field groups attract a lot of people — is there any plan to "control" the
school district's use of the fields?
• How about integrating park activities with school district activities — better
communication.
• Any traffic studies should be done in conjunction with soccer game ending times
— that is when the community is most affected by increased traffic.
• Walking to/from the Trump National presents a hazardous condition when
crossing PV Drive South -- how about considering flashing lights similar to what
they have in San Pedro on 25th street.
• Exiting from Seaview onto eastbound PV Drive South, there is an extra lane for
traffic to await a break in traffic — why not at Forrestal?
• Does the MasterPlan Update have anything to do with the traffic flow?
• Ladera Linda is falling apart — we need to do something NOW — the sky is falling
— we need a major upgraded Community Center.
• What about the Lomita Sheriff's Department providing police presence to direct
traffic at the end of soccer games?
Appendix D-30
• No upgrade to the fields should be considered — would just result in more sports
groups using the fields.
• Do we wait until there is a fatality at the corner of Forrestal and PV Drive South
before the situation is addressed?
• Has Solar Energy been considered when improvements are planned?
• We need a Community Center with: Decent restrooms, paddle tennis courts, 3rd
court?, picnic area, kids playground, no gym — that attracts too many people,
Fitness stations — yes, we have enough Soccer fields as it is and definitely not on
the lower field; Yes to Sheriff's drop in center; no to Dog Park.
• Research Orange County parks — they have lots of associations and great plans
for community involvement. Use rental fees, revenue from Food Trucks to
alleviate improvement costs. Consider charging a fee for membership like they
do at the Portuguese Bend Club. City should focus on providing something for
the community where they live — versus going to Terrranea, the YMCA for
exercise classes. How about Bingo night/card game night/movie night/smores to
encourage community participation? Consider artificial grass and WiFi — make it
a Hub for the community!
• Soccer (from an Argentinian point of view) shouldn't be only AYSO — families
should not have to pay for their children to play soccer — sponsors could be found
to cover the costs — i.e. form Soccer Clubs, local tournaments, etc.
• How about a Teen Center?
• What is the timeline? Will the current facilities be demolished and if so, when?
• More than 50% of the Ladera Linda residents are over 50 years old — how about
senior programs, lectures, etc.?
• There should be an active playground with staff presence to lend out balls, bats,
tennis balls, etc. Never see anyone around.
• If the improved facilities are going to be open to the public that will attract more
people coming in to the area. There should be Sherriff's presence 24/7 as the
location will be discovered! On the flip side - more facilities will also result in
more eyes and ears to improve security.
• Law enforcement — how about a sign along Forrestal indicating that the Sherriff's
Department is just around the corner?
• BBQ's should not be allowed — residents have their own BBQs in their yards and
providing them would just attract outsiders. Should consider a Multi Purpose
Center for children, teens and seniors — Simpler the better
• Supervised Teen Center.
• High Priority: The consensus of the residents will be for a Community Center, no
dog park, no gym.
• Build community — keep it modest, control traffic, improve landscaping.
• Center should be inter -generational — children, teens, seniors.
• Many of the things discussed here already exist, but this resident stated he never
sees anyone using the facilities!
• Condition of the park contributes to the lack of use.
• Keep it low key — modest
• Active programming — there needs to be more publicity about programs that are
offered — how about HOA newsletters, Nextdoor.com, flyers, etc.
• Get the word out about those Master Plan workshops — how about using the
BackPack system?
• Maintenance is definitely an issue!
Meeting notes from LL Public Workshop January 21, 2015
• Will the residents of Ladera Linda have a chance to see the presentation before it
is presented to Council?
• The Cost Estimate — how does that fit in with the placeholders identified? Matt:
The buildings are in bad shape and in need of repair/replacement — for additional
Appendix D-31
upgrades/improvements i.e. a Gym, additional funds would have to be identified.
The CIP funds would basically cover the list of items identified, however,
additional funds would be need if more ideas come forward. Cory: Here's what
we want — then start from there.
• Are there square footage limits, height restrictions on what can be built here?
• We have to abide by existing restrictions.
• Square footage — why are we limited to a certain square footage going forward?
• Risk to City — if Fitness Stations are installed what would the City's responsibility
be as far as anyone getting injured? — Potential Law suits
• Dog Park at Eastview — not a lot of positive feedback — however, dogs are off
leash there. What does the City to do if a dog park is not established there to
enforce the leach law?
• Is there a dog park at Friendship Park?
• Security in the neighborhood — a Sherriff sub station — has there been any
dialogue with the Sherriff's Department on this manner? What about improved
lighting at the park to reduce crime? - Interim City Manager Carolynn Petru
explained the different requirements of a "sub station" as opposed to a "drop in" —
round the clock staffing.
• Obviously crime rate is increasing so "drop in" is not effective.
• Expanded Community Center would result in expanded staff hours.
• Could involve Sherriff's Department in design (i.e. pointing out areas where bad
element could hide behind bushes, unlit areas, etc.
• Residents very adamant about the effect of increased traffic in the area results in
more crime in the area.
• If a Gym were built here — would residency be a requirement?
• Neighborhood security — crime rate in the Ladera Linda area is major — Ladera
Linda is the gateway to the city (an attractive nuisance) — any expansion would
result in more crime — improved park results in "undesirables" coming in.
• Portuguese Bend — one resident described his experience while surfing there —
two men were in the bushes bloodied and beat up. When asked if they needed
help, they turned on him and started mouthing off. The people coming in to the
Portuguese Bend area is a major concern — largely due to local media — result:
more trash, more crime.
• We do have children here in the area who need something to do.
• Most parks have little staff presence.
• To say parks have a negative impact is just not true — parks improve property
values. There will always be issues which need to be faced and taken on. If
improvements are made, newer buildings, etc. they will need to be maintained.
• WHAT is the problem here? What has changed that has resulted in increased
crime. Resident not aware of any changes, also not aware of any increased
crime.
• The increase in crime has nothing to do with the Ladera Linda Community
Center.
• Ambulance Station — Why not use Fire Station 53? — Too small. Response:
time is too long if Ambulances have to come from Crenshaw. Roaming
Ambulances have not been effective. There are not a lot of places available to
locate an ambulance station in the city. If they are located in a residential area
there are two items to consider: they would not be leaving to respond to an
emergency with flashing lights and sirens on, and they would not be bringing
patients back there
• Is this the only location being considered? — Response: No, Golden Cove has
been looked at — there are restrictions there regarding a 24 hour per day station;
Fire Station 53 —too small; Wayfarer's Chapel — not sufficient room; City Hall —
adds valuable minutes to get to the area.
Appendix D-32
• The survey that was done — was it only residents of Ladera Linda and Seaview
who had input? No — the online survey was available to all.
• Of the 41,000+ residents only 395 responded? Isn't that rather limited?
Response: the survey is Just one tool being used to get feedback. Survey
results are usually taken from a limited amount of people.
• Keep it simple! It's a good starting point — stay within the budget!!!!
• Continued feedback:
• Looking at survey results — it's obvious everyone likes open space
• Re staffing — there is a problem with the way the park is staffed. The issue of a
recent wedding where loud noise, alcohol being consumed, cooking outdoors,
impacted on the neighborhood. Policing of the upper fields is need as well.
More activity at the park will impact residents even more!
• Staff training is an issue — inconsistent answers to the same question. 1,.e. are
BBQs allowed? One says yes another no.
• Is there a City Ordinance re consumption of alcohol on park grounds — Alcohol is
allowed on public park grounds, but not at the beach — this is a State ordinance.
• Children's playground — should it be kept or should it go? If there is a desire to
keep them and they are in good/safe condition, then definitely they would be
kept. Most residents have an expectation that there will be playground
equipment at a public park.
• Will restrooms be kept? Yes
• Is overnight camping in tents permitted/authorized? Only on the ground at City
Hall for organized groups, i.e. girl scouts and only with a permit. It's not
permitted but probably does happen — if residents see them, they should contact
City Hall (or the Sherriff's Dept.) after hours.
• A nature center is a good idea — what is the difference between having a Gym
and a Community Center with activity rooms?
• If a new Community Center is built will there be a height restriction? Limited
height would limit construction of a Gym!
• Where did this "informal" survey get started? Herb Stark sent it out to those
residents he has e-mail addresses for.
• Thank you for the presentation! We who live here choose this location for its
peaceful atmosphere and everything you are proposing presents a threat —
increased crime, more trash, more traffic. We like it as it is! We seek solitude,
serenity, bucolic atmosphere.
• This is a multi -generation community — we need to look down the road for the
children — we hear requests for everything from a "Disneyland like" park to
nothing!
• Keep the park the way it is, but do some maintenance before the roof falls in.
• We need to keep a balance here — the input from the younger generation would
most likely be different from what we are hearing here. Most importantly we
need a safe place for the resident to enjoy!
• Ladera Linda is unique in that there is one road in and one road out — which
means traffic concerns.
• Survey related questions — can one person vote more than once? Yes vote
again if you wish — the survey is not a scientific tool, it's a way to get an idea of
what the residents want/don't want. Use the Dot Points — which all those who
don't wish to speak up to also have a say.
• One resident who has small children commented that "yes" a modest Community
Center would be a welcome addition. Keep the area low key in order to maintain
the community atmosphere enjoyed now.
• Will the present footprint be the same? Response: Will not be a mega complex
— but perhaps take advantage of the view.
• Resident: very disappointed the Montessori School closed.
• Re Upper fields? Does the school have any plans for change? They are on a
year-to-year agreement, and nothing has been mentioned in this regard.
Appendix D-33
14
12
10
8
6
4
2
0
■ The gate above the paddle tennis courts — who controls this gate? It appears it is
only open during AYSO practices/games. The PVPUSD own those fields and
therefore control the gate.
There are some concerns about increased traffic, however, it is a known fact that
proximity to a park increases property values, not decrease them. Some
residents do not want anything to change, however, our youth need positive
things, like recreation facilities and activities.
• If something is built here, it will attract outsiders not necessarily locals.
• Most of us bought homes here for the peaceful atmosphere — we did not want to
live in Hermosa Beach.
• 1 feel everyone here is objecting to improvement. Park improvement will result in
• improved property values, not the other way around.
• WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A QUIET ENVIRONMENT — no outsiders, no traffic,
no trash!!!!
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center November 19, 2014 and January 28, 2015 Workshops
Tape Dot Exercise Results ---Combined results
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
Walking Paths with Bocce Ball Courts Village Green w/ Tennis/Paddle
Fitness Sations Amphitheatre Tennis Courts
,III
i
III
r -
i
Pool Multi-purpose
playing fields
Great Idea It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Appendix D-34
25
20
15
10
5
0
Soso No
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Community Center
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
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o
■ �� lam
Skate Shade /BBQsArts/Cultural Dog Park
Park/Skate / Picnic Center
Plaza Tables
i77 Great Idea
Skate Park/Skate Plaza
Shade /BBQs / Picnic Tables
Arts/Cultural Center
Dog Park
Children's Playground
Gym
Tricycle Course for Tots
Children's Gym Tricycle
Playground Course for
Tots
It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Great
Idea
ZI'
It's OK
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4
1
6
5
2
3
Soso No
Appendix D-35
Great
Idea It's OK
Walking Paths w/ Fitness Stations
i
Bocce Ball Courts
2
Village Green w/ Amphitheatre
3
Tennis/Paddle Tennis Courts
3
Pool
4
Multi-purpose playing fields
S
Soso No
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Community Center
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
.0 iu
o
■ �� lam
Skate Shade /BBQsArts/Cultural Dog Park
Park/Skate / Picnic Center
Plaza Tables
i77 Great Idea
Skate Park/Skate Plaza
Shade /BBQs / Picnic Tables
Arts/Cultural Center
Dog Park
Children's Playground
Gym
Tricycle Course for Tots
Children's Gym Tricycle
Playground Course for
Tots
It's OK ■ So So ■ No
Great
Idea
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It's OK
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1
6
5
2
3
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Appendix D-35
Summary of Point Vicente Comment Card Suggestions:
Pt Vicente Comment Cards SUMMARY
1. Keep as is
# of
comments
13
10
_
2. Skateboard park/Basketball Court/Other Activities
3. Maintenance/Increased Safety
3
4
Misc.
Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Comment Card Question Results
Approval Ranking 3 1 4 1 3 1 2 1 1
5kate Park & Plaza
Improved Amenities
Fitness stations
Multiuse Field
Dog park
Chikirens Playground
Pool
Tennis Courts
Gymnasium
Bocce Bab Courts
New Art & Cultural Center
Paddle Tennis Courts
Tricycl a Park
Point Vicente
Comment Card Rating Results
0.00 0.50 1.GG 130 2.00 2.50 3.00 350 4.00
Racing 0.00-5.00
4.50 5.00
Appendix D-36
#I Responses
Weighted Total Overall Ranking
Tricycle Park
1
0
4
3
16
24
39 1.53
Paddle Tennis Courts
1
0
4
4
15
24
40 1.57
New Art & Cultu:raI Center
1
1
3
1 4
15
24
41 1.71
Bocce Ball Courts
1
2
4
4
14
25
47 1.138
Gymnasium
2
3
0
5
14
24
46 192
Tennis Courts
0
1
6
7
10
24
46 192
Pool
2
3
3
3
12
23
49 2.13
Childrens Playground
1
3
6
4
10
24
53 2.21
Dog park
0
2
8
6
7
23
51 2.22
Multi -Use Field
2
3
8
4
$
j 25
62 2.48
Fitness Stations
5
5
6
4
3
23
74 3.22
Improved Amenities
10
2
6
2
2
22
82 3.73
Skate Park & Plaza
14
3
3
1
3
24
96 4.00
5kate Park & Plaza
Improved Amenities
Fitness stations
Multiuse Field
Dog park
Chikirens Playground
Pool
Tennis Courts
Gymnasium
Bocce Bab Courts
New Art & Cultural Center
Paddle Tennis Courts
Tricycl a Park
Point Vicente
Comment Card Rating Results
0.00 0.50 1.GG 130 2.00 2.50 3.00 350 4.00
Racing 0.00-5.00
4.50 5.00
Appendix D-36
Individual Comment Card Suggestions
PMPU Pt Vicente Comment Cards FINAL Summary
1. Keep as is.
Low maint. Small upkeep
BBQ area
KEEP OPEN SPACE, USE NATIVE PLANTS
enhance, maintain open space, restore native habitat
ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITES LISTED ALREADY EXIST IN OTHER PARKS- NOT NEEDED
Open spaces, more trees, less concrete (structures)
No Construction of expensive and maintenance intensive facilities
No Park with crowded activites and traffic problems
No ambulance station
NO BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES
NO FITNESS STATIONS
NO STRUCTURES, CEMENT, CONSTRUCTION
NO FOOTBALL FIELD
2. Skateboard Park/Basketball Court/Other Activities
skatepark pv
skate park necessity, few cities don't have one, always busy
RPV NEEDS A SKATEPARK
SKATEPARK
BEAUTIFUL SKATEABLE MULTI USE PLAZA
OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS
AMBULANCE STATION WOULD BE POSITIVE- MCCORMICK DONATIONS(?)
ADD WING TO PVIC FOR HISTORICAL SOCIETY
ITEMS THAT APPEAL TO ALL AGES LIKE BOCCE AND HUGE CHESS
& tennis court (east west facing)
3. Maintenance/Increased Safety
ENHANCED SAFETY, AND VISABILITY TO PARK ENTRANCE
Safer parking lot lighting, better after hours control to avoid lovers lane activities
LOW UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE
Misc.
more share use agreements to avoid duplication of facilities that already exist in the city
do away with not -so active facilities such as beach volley court
PLANT TREES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Add exhibit that shows current use planned, exhibits as overlay on existing use
Appendix D-37
Summary of Public Comments From Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Public Workshops
➢ Discussion of possible future uses and current CIP projects
➢ Most positive about shade structures, fitness stations, viewpoints, drought -resistant
landscaping, and enhanced amenities
➢ Concerns raised about financing, maintenance, traffic, views, and recreation activities for youth,
teens and adults
➢ General consensus that no significant changes were need
Meeting notes from Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Public Workshop November 19, 2014
• Concern: Security at new facilities
• Complaint: City not abiding by its own lighting restrictions imposed on residents. Lights
too bright at the site.
• Concern: Entryway at city hall, better signage, possible new location for driveway
entrance for easier more clear access.
• Concern: If the tax payers would be paying for the Skate Park.
o Response: Skate Park PV would financially back the building of the Skate Park,
and maintenance for the first ten years. After ten years the City would be
financially responsible for maintaining the facility.
• Comment: Is the age demographic of RPV being factored into the decision of possible
future uses?
• Support: Cultural center/ Amphitheater
o Having a facility for multi -use that could be also utilized for City events.
• Support: Sports field for multi -use. For ex: city events and sports.
o Concern: city leasing fields for revenue. Tax payer's funds being used, but
residents not being able to utilize the field if it's leased.
• Concern: Pool/Gymnasium, expensive to build, maintenance, and uncertain funding.
• Support: Pool
o Better use per square footage then other facilities.
o Only other pool facility is heavily used and patron is concerned overtime about
the longevity of that facility, they would like a City pool.
o All generations can actively use a pool from children to seniors.
• Support: Pool, it has been in previous plans, would like to see it move forward.
o Patron doesn't feel they should need to visit other cities to enjoy a pool.
o Look for cost matching in order to complete the facility.
• Comment: City put $80,000 towards Peninsula High School Pool.
• Support: for a facility that could support a mix of activities in order to please more
patrons.
• Concern: City hall line of sight, dangerous crossing from city hall onto Hawthorne Blvd.
• Concern: Skate Park, focusing primarily on trick skaters rather than free ride.
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o Response: Skateboarding is illegal in PV, riders are ticketed if they do so. The
facility Skate PV imagines is one that would target younger kids to High School
students. Where they could skate freely.
o Question/ Concern: Will there be certain time slots for older/younger skaters,
what type of monitoring is there?
o Response: It would be open free skate. Patron states most riders are courteous
of others and share the parks.
• Support: Skate Park, they are heavily used and very popular. Most cities are integrating
this into their park systems.
• Support: New Civic Center building (City Hall), feels this is a priority before building
recreational facilities.
o Once a new civic center is built, that should be the hub and all other facilities
planned around that facility as the anchor.
• Support: Skate Park, one of the only groups that have been actively working and looking
for support to back their ideas. Have financial backing.
o The skate park would serve all of the Palos Verdes Peninsula cities not just RPV.
• Comment: The Civic Center/ Pt Vicente Park is a prime location to showcase the City.
Would like that to be taken into consideration.
■Question: How often is the tennis courts utilized?
Response: not often.
Meeting notes from Point Vicente Park/Civic Center Public Workshop January 28, 2015
Attendance: 16 (adults 12 children 4)
City Staff: Cory Linder, Matt Waters, Carolynn Petru, Daniel Trautner, Sean Robinson
• Comment: Ken Dyda- Adaptable changes section should include educational aspect (such as
PVIC), make sure we keep that in the plan.
• Concern: Jim w/ Skate Park PV- Ambulance Station -An ambulance doesn't belong at a park
concerned about the sound of the vehicle when driving off. The dogs won't enjoy the sirens,
the people and city hall staff as well.
• Response: Patron- good to have a station, especially if a large emergency happens.
• Comment: Ken Dyda- What is the concern in response time. Instead of being at park site they
should be stationed at the fire station locations which were "strategically placed around the
hill".
• Concern: helipad, in a state of an emergency a helicopter can land anywhere, whether it be
a deemed helipad, parking lot, open field, etc.
• Comment: expansion of emergency response area if so, would the City be able to justify a
quicker response time by adding an ambulance station.
• Concern: Village green and pool is very high maintenance and a lot of expenses.
• Comment: Ken Dyda- people are making decisions based on emotional feelings, they should
be given more details by presenters about what it would cost to implement and maintain
such facilities to help patrons make a more informed decision. For ex: What are the expected
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operational costs?
• Concern: Too many structures being built takes away from the park itself. If adding
structures/facilities, there is a need to add more trees to make it look like a park.
• Comment: take in consideration that we have a beautiful walking path at PVIC, which is close
distance to civic center. (Against additional walking paths at Civic Center site)
• Comment: PVIC could be called a "cultural center" (against additional cultural center)
• Concern: adding more lights for safer parking would take away from night view of residents
and attracts more people.
■ Response: Without proper lighting it is dangerous to park you vehicle and come visit the
locations. Hard for elderly to see.
• Comment: Skate Park concept does not have lighting.
• Complaint: online survey comment -It is a Disservice that Skate Park is being called only a
skate park when it will include multiple opportunities; band shell, stage, etc. How would
public know that their plan includes other ideas then just a skate park.
• Comment: The power point should include how many people participated in the survey.
•Question: Jim Skate Park PV- what has more weight in decisions attending city council
meetings or coming to workshops?
•Question: Is everything going to be shown to council, all of the surveys, workshop comments,
etc.? Additional Comment: There are too many choices for people to choose from.
• Comment. In support of Skate Park PV -there are plenty of existing walking areas, pools, parks
that are close by but rarely used.
• Support: Skate Park PV -Mother spends her weekend driving kids to skate parks and facility
that are miles away. Would like one on this side of the Hill.
• Comment: In support of Skate Park PV- the public needs to know they are planning on funding
the initial expenses to build facility. Additional Comment: Peck Park Skate Park being crowded
and too far.
• Comment: In support for encompassing the history that we already have, bunkers, etc. We
shouldn't lose the history. If there is a way to enhance the experience for visitors
• Support: t for options that are low maintenance, minimal construction, lots of shade, lots of
tree, keep it simple, with minimal lighting.
• uestion: will staff be analyzing to determine what opportunities fit best where and not
duplicating similar type facilities in different locations. Will the public have input on the
overall/master layout location once we move forward?
• Comment: The project/plan should recap the 1989 Parks Master Plan and indicate how much
progress was made in that master plan since then.
• Comment: the voting slides should include how many people attended the meeting.
• Comment: It would be a great idea to include a ballpark estimate of what different facilities
would cost. To give perspective.
• Complement: City staff has done a great job putting this information together thus far.
Appendix D-40
GENERAL WORKSHOPS
General Workshops February 18 and February 25, 2015
Tape Dot Exercise Results ---Combined Workshop
General Master Plan
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
30
25
20
15
10
Great
idea
Outdoor Basketball Courts
Preserve: Adjacent Nature Center
New Community Center: koftA Linda
Preserving Undeveloped Land
Building Athletic Recreation Facilities
Additional Paddle Tennis/Basketball Courts
Preserve -access Parking at Gateway park
1 .
1 In
Preserving
Building Athletic
undeveloped Land
Outdoor Basketball
Preserve: Adjacent
New Community
Courts
Nature Center
CenterLadera
Linda
■ Great
Idea
Great
idea
Outdoor Basketball Courts
Preserve: Adjacent Nature Center
New Community Center: koftA Linda
Preserving Undeveloped Land
Building Athletic Recreation Facilities
Additional Paddle Tennis/Basketball Courts
Preserve -access Parking at Gateway park
011 ri
Additional Paddle Preserve -Access
Tennis/Basketball Parking at Gateway
Courts park
It's OK ■ So So ■ No
It's OK
12
3
2
0
13
4
1
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1 .
1 In
Preserving
Building Athletic
undeveloped Land
Recreation
Facilities
011 ri
Additional Paddle Preserve -Access
Tennis/Basketball Parking at Gateway
Courts park
It's OK ■ So So ■ No
It's OK
12
3
2
0
13
4
1
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30
25
20
15
to
5
0
General Master Plan
Public Workshop Tape Dot Exercise Results
0. E Elm Ell 11.11. 111
Park Amenities Fitness Sations Gymnasium Pool Skate Park: Point Dog Park at Children's Community
Vicente/Civic Eastview Playground Center (Point
Center Vicente/Civic
center}
■ Great Idea It's OK ■ So So ■ No
General Workshops Comment Card Question Results
General Parks Comment Card SUMMARY
Great
1. Skate Park request
1
Idea
It's OK sou No
Park Amenities
16
6
Fitness stations
8
12
Gymnasium
2
5
Pool
2
2
Skate park: Point Vicente/Civic Center
7
8
Dog Park at kajyjeK
7
4
Children's Playground
9
9
Community Center 1pa:rt vm t jcivk omml
13
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General Workshops Comment Card Question Results
General Parks Comment Card SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Skate Park request
1
2. Equestrian
3
3. Keep as is.
1
4. Skeet Shooting
1
5. Plant trees/wildlife sanctuary
3
Misc.
1
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General Workshop Comment Card Rankings
Annrnval Ranking 5 I d I 3 1 2 1 1
General Parks
Comment Card Rating Responses
.p—d Amenities tCity Parks
PL.blic Community Center
P- n-,Adj ax rR ti atu re Center
Senior5wices
Fit— Statins at Gt'f PaH,c:
Skate Park at Pcint Vicente ParktZ is Center
Teenfnased Programs
Children's Play Eq ripment
"_ r.'a ,....... _, a,
Leave Parks As Th ey Are
Pr6lic Gymnasium
Public Pod
Individual Comment Card Suggestions
What is your favorite recreation activity
Walking
Bird Walking
Hiking
Skating
Picnicing
Horseback riding
U.00 0 50 L W 1 SO L 00 2 50 100 3 50 4.00 4.50 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
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MeWmses
WeitOiitedTotal OwwatiftWaig
Public Pool
0
0
0
4
9
13
17
131
Public Gymnasium
0
0
2
5
6
13
22
1.69
Leave Parks As Thep Are
2
2
2
2
4
12
32
2.67
Dog Park at Eastview Pa rk
3
0
3
3
3
12
33
L75
Chi ldren'sPlay Equi pment
2
2
4
2
3
13
37
2.85
Te a n 4oc used Progra ms
2
2
5
3
1
13
40
3.08
Skate Pa rk at Poi nt Vi cente Pa r k/C iv ic Ce ntep4
1
3
2
3
13
40
3.00
Fitness Stations at City Parks
2
3
5
2
1
13
42
3.23
Senior Services
2
5
5
1
1
14
48
3.43
Preserve -Adjacent Nature Center
4
2
5
3
0
14
49
3.50
Public Community Center
6
2
5
1
0
14
55
3.93
Improved Amenities at City Parks
6
3
2
1
0
12
50
0.17
General Parks
Comment Card Rating Responses
.p—d Amenities tCity Parks
PL.blic Community Center
P- n-,Adj ax rR ti atu re Center
Senior5wices
Fit— Statins at Gt'f PaH,c:
Skate Park at Pcint Vicente ParktZ is Center
Teenfnased Programs
Children's Play Eq ripment
"_ r.'a ,....... _, a,
Leave Parks As Th ey Are
Pr6lic Gymnasium
Public Pod
Individual Comment Card Suggestions
What is your favorite recreation activity
Walking
Bird Walking
Hiking
Skating
Picnicing
Horseback riding
U.00 0 50 L W 1 SO L 00 2 50 100 3 50 4.00 4.50 5.00
Rating 0.00-5.00
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Hiking
Nature watching
Walking
Walking
Horseback riding
running
walking
hiking
Golf, water aerobics
walking
walking/hiking with my dog
Any recreation change(s) you would like to see?
More skate parks are necessary to truly serve the community.
Every
park that has a good skate park finds it is the most used asset of the
park. More connected trails. More shade and BBQ structures.
There
are a very significant numbers of skater on the hill that are not
represented in the RPV system.
Public large animal emergency center in Ladera Linda area
Maintain as is. Preserve views
Trees for shade. Skeet shooting
Additional Comments
Planting trees
Wildlife bird sanctuary
Emergency for livestock at several locations
Some of us are unable to use horse trails as we cannot connect or
are "land locked".
Coordinate with Emergency Preparedness Committee to establish
equipment & supplies at all parks adjacent to residents and set
up meeting/shelter area
Please keep a tighter schedule. You're too nice in allowing people
to talk. Perhaps you might answer questions after each parks
presentation. Too many interruptions.
Summary of Public Comments From General Public Workshops
➢ Discussion of Lower Hesse Park Plan and Involvement of HOA
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➢ Discussion of Equestiran involvement
➢ Discussion of shifting demographics at parks such as Ladera Linda
➢ Multi-use/multi-generational programming and park planning
➢ Discussion of online survey
➢ Concern expressed about Del Cerro Parking/Gateway
➢ Questions about funding options
➢ Misc Park Questions
➢ Questions about Senior Programming
➢ Concerns and Questions about Gateway Park
➢ Questions about resident vs non-resident access to public parks and facilities
➢ Emergency planning questions
Master Plan Update — General Plan — Comments from February 18th meeting at Ladera Linda
Is today's meeting a complete recap of what we heard before or is there something
new? - It's an update of current happenings, a recap of input received to date and is
general in nature (applies to all parks in the City) — not just LL.
• Is there anyone in the Recreation & Parks Department specializing in activities for
seniors? Response: No not specifically, but there are a lot of senior activities taking
place at Hesse Park and at the Peninsula Seniors Center (located next to City Hall).
• Is there anyone on staff who coordinates activities with the Peninsula Seniors group?
We work closely with the Peninsula Seniors but do not have a designated staff person —
will look into that.
What about a Senior Center at Ladera Linda?
Please fix the lights at the Ladera Linda stairs from the neighborhood up to the park —
they are poorly illuminated and dangerous after dark.
Nothing should be done in the Landslide area until the landslide issues are addressed.
The City already has a cost of $3,000,000 for relining the road — there must be a plan in
place to slow the slide. It takes money and it appears there is money available. That
should be done first.
The City has done a great job with established parks. A new park in the Ishibashi area
would create a new issue — with more public coming in. Opening Gateway Park will
REALLY be an issue — who will pay for lawsuits? I.E. at the Beach — a lot of people come
in who want to go to the Beach — will a lien be placed on residents as a result of City
liability? Cory's response: We would not build something that doesn't meet Municipal
Code.
They (the public) are already going there — I have grave concerns about safety issues
(especially for women), vandalism, crime, lewd acts, etc. Out of town people have
already discovered the beach at Trump National. Who is going to pay for maintenance,
vandalism, etc.? You're opening up our neighborhood to strangers. Who is policing
those public areas and at what cost? Matt's response: we're not advocating any
particular plan at this point — all input will be considered.
Is the City prepared to spend $700,000 per year in the slip and slide area?
f There have recently been three burglaries on Phantom Drive — doors have been broken
and residents robbed.
• 1 live in the Portuguese Bend Club —we have grave concerns about outsiders being
invited in.
Gateway Park—thumbs down! The most ridiculous plan I've ever heard of.
0 Lynn Swank pointed out that all coastal areas are open to public access! Beach access is
a reality—there will always be public access.
• Herb Stark posed the following question: if there is a conflict between what the local
residents want as opposed to what the general public as a whole want — what
recommendation will you make to Council? Matt suggested that perhaps the City will
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look at community partnerships, i.e. if most of the residents wanted a pool for example,
it might be possible to form a partnership with a local school to use their facilities.
• I would like to see a Senior Center here — I am not interested in senior activities at Hesse
Park — I don't see anything in this presentation for a senior center.
• We need to be aware that as a Master Plan —we are looking at possibly 10 —15 years
out before implementation —the population at that time may be different and they may
want, for example, a pool.
• Has any systematic data been developed to compare local input versus City-wide input?
• Regarding Lower Point Vicente Park and the suggestion to have outside exhibits — I'm
concerned about vandalism - what is the plan for security?
• Regarding the Traffic Safety Committee's recommendation to disallow left hand turns
onto PV Drive South coming out of PVIC, that is a terrible idea. People would have to go
to Terranea to turn —this would also impact the Church and the Pet Clinic patrons as
well.
• Who on City staff is responsible for determining the feasibility of these plans as they
pertain to hazardous waste? (PW/Geologists at the appropriate time). The
presentations being made here are ideas only — not conceptual designs.
• Carolynn Petru pointed out that at Lower Point Vicente we are aware that there was
contamination so anytime we go out to do something, site testing would be mandatory.
• Re Grandview Park — wasn't the community around Grandview very active in
maintaining that as an undeveloped park? (Yes and the city is working closely with local
HOAs).
• With regard to the online survey, is there a way to determine the priorities of residents
as opposed to outsiders who may very much want to be able to come into the preserve
for biking, equestrian trails, etc.?
• Are you able to distinguish between mountain biking from regular road biking?
• Didn't the PUMP Committee spend years on defining trails for mountain bikers as well
as trails for road bikers?
• I'm not convinced that the City's survey is valid. The largest equestrian group is located
in Rolling Hills Estates, therefore the results would be biased. Most residents of RPV
don't mountain bike or ride horses. CP responded that we did reach out to those
groups outside RPV, i.e. horse riders, bikers, etc.
• During the PUMP meetings I was very much aware of the pressure put on by those
groups, - equestrians, bikers, etc. We need to respect the work that has already been
done.
• RPV is the City spending the money —those groups represent other Peninsula cities.
(Response: our main purpose here is to get RPV residents input)
• What is the city's position on hand gliding? CP: not allowed on public property, but
gliders know the loopholes (they lift off from private property).
• Is Vista Catalina Perk identified as a City Park? Yes
• Passive vs. Active parks have not been addressed — most of the public are not aware of
those designations. Cory responded that there are certain parks (i.e. Vanderlip) where
the City would not be able to designate those parks as "active" —there are restrictions
on some City parkland.
• How many city staff members are involved in the Parks Master Plan update? Who will
have the final sign -off on what is presented to City Council?
All city departments as well as the City Manager will be involved — this is not a "voting"
situation, i.e. zoning regulations, funding, etc. will have to be taken into consideration as
well as alternatives. The input will be heavily analyzed by staff, then a recommendation
will be made to Council.
• Will there be Plan A and Plan B as well as some alternatives?
• At a recent Seaview HOA Meeting, Emergency Preparation Equipment storage was
discussed — where would such equipment be stored? Does the City coordinate with
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other agencies? Absolutely! Cory responded that the City definitely does attend to
those needs and that all park sites could possibly become shelter sites in case of an
emergency. Cory suggested to the resident that they may wish to consider having the
Emergency Preparedness committee come to one of their meetings to answer
concerns/address issues.
• Does the City of RPV have an emergency planning budget? Not Recreation & Parks
specifically, but a City-wide budget, yes.
Notes for the 2/25/15 Parks General Plan Meeting at Hesse Park:
• Question: Are the statistics you are showing per park? Matt — these are general
park questions plus site specific questions we are addressing tonight.
• Is there money for an Equestrian Center at Gateway? Matt — the 2004 Taskforce
had this originally in the park plan. Access is included but not an Equestrian
Center.
• How do we know if Equestrians respond to these surveys? Matt — it would show
up by their comments.
• The Peninsula Seniors have been asked to vacate. Is that true? Matt — I'm not
sure about their current timetable to vacate.
• Was there a question about horses on the survey? Matt — this was an informal
survey. Some questions couldn't be included.
• The survey was all pleasure related. We need emergency personnel and
evacuation sites. Matt — several people have brought this topic up. Cory — the
overall emergency plan will include this. The park survey is more general. City
Hall would like this plan for evacuation areas.
• All cities should work together to care for the large animals during an emergency.
• Ken — described that Ladera Linda was a land swap.
• Comment on the athletic field. Most support was for this but (this resident) does
not want soccer. Soccer brings in lots of noise.
• If you look at the general neighborhood of Ladera Linda we need to look to the
future. The neighborhood is currently older. In the future it will probably be
younger. Cory — this will work as we stay flexible. The facilities are here and
we'd like to accommodate what we already have.
• There are not a lot of activities included. We can add to the survey but (he) felt if
it wasn't there it wasn't important. He gave dancing as an example.
• Cory — there is a programmatic issue. Multi -use functionality is what they're
looking for. Example: Landera Linda — how can we get the most use? A
kitchen, yes, for various events and activities.
• If we are designing a kitchen, you need to call a caterer not an architect. Cory —
if we have a building that's where we'll have specific uses. We'll look at "are we
covering everyone's needs" or can we partner with businesses and other
communities.
• Matt — the survey is just one tool. We'll provide all information we receive to City
Council. If something is unfunded when would it be funded? Cory — EIR's help
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plan ahead. Matt — if City Council approved a plan that needed an EIR then an
EIR will be done.
• Will local HOA's be involved in the procedure? Matt — absolutely.
• Are there plans for Lower Hesse Park? Matt — some elements have been
discussed.
• Who are the participants in this discussions? Cory explained what has been
happening with the Lower Hesse Park project.
• John Freeman explained the group that meets and that four of them represent
HOA's in the area. Cory stated that there is a consultant working with the Lower
Hesse Park group.
• Will we still have input into Lower Hesse Park even if we don't participate in an
HOA? Matt — there will be extensive outreach.
• When does this project go to City Council? Matt 4/21/15
• Are there professionals who will address these issues? Cory — yes, and listed
other city departments that will assist. Ex. Public Works
• Del Cerro Park residents have a serious problem. They need another access
point. What about the end of Crenshaw for extra parking? Cory — we can't build
on the preserve.
• We need to solve Del Cerro problem. Matt — Gateway is part of this discussion.
• Is it possible to build a parking lot at City Hall? Matt — yes, that is a possibility.
• How are you going to take all this to City Council? Matt — we want to make
recommendations that make sense. Some sites are complicated.
• Is part of the goal priorities? Matt — there will be a funding issue of course and
prioritization.
• There has been an impression that there is no reason why Lower Hesse Park
hasn't been developed. When will we see when the activities will be added?
Can we see the report for City Council prior to the City Council meeting with
plenty of time to read the information? Please make an attempt to get this
accumulated data out to the public one month prior to the City Council meeting
so the public has time to read it.
• Is part of Matt's job to find funding? Matt — some funding is there but other
recommendations may be a small expense and low maintenance.
• Do you research possible sources? Matt — this is a large plan.
• A priority should be to get something done. Matt — this is a plan to make it up to
date.
• Matt — we want this to be a living document and not one placed on a shelf.
• When is City Council changing? Matt — there will be three new councilmembers
in 2015.
• Matt — commented that these meetings have brought up issues that were not
Master Plan issues and that is also good.
• Put a bathroom at the top of the list for Del Cerro Park.
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Emaiis Received By Staff:
Staff received numerous emails on all of the studied sites as well as general
correspondence and miscellaneous. Below is a summary followed by a listing of all
emails separated by category.
Point Vicente Survey Open Ended SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Pro -Skateboard park
24
2. No skateboard park
4
3. Pro -Pool
9
4. Pro -Dog park
7
5. Sports Related
25
6. Open Spaces/Trails Hiking/Nature/Gardens
29
7. Equestrian
2
8. Community Center/Youth Activities/Facility Rentals
15
9. Seniors
4
10. Youth
4
11. General Facility/Maintenance
11
12. Miscellaneous
11
Ladera Linda Survey Open Ended SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Pro -Skateboard park
38
2. No skateboard park
2
3. Pro -Pool
16
4. No pool
4
5. Pro -Dog park
14
6. Sports Related
27
7. Open Spaces/Trails/Hiking/Nature/Gardens
22
8. Equestrian
7
9. Community Center
5
10. Youth
11
11. Security Concerns
6
12. General Facility/Maintenance
15
13. Miscellaneous
6
Single Most Important Issue SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Pro -Skateboard park
60
2. No skateboard park
1
3. Pro -Pool
42
4. No pool
2
5. Pro -Dog park
16
6. Sports Related
32
7. Open Spaces/Trails/Hiking/Nature/Gardens
149
8. Equestrian
5
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9. Community Center/Facility Rentals
35
10. Seniors
15
11. Youth
14
12. General Facility/Maintenance
25
13. Parking Issues
26
14. Security Concerns
20
15. Miscellaneous
55
Other Activities you Participate in SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Pro -Skateboard park
28
2. No skateboard park
6
3. Pro -Pool
18
4. No pool
1
5. Pro -Dog Park
18
6. Sports Related
11
7. Open Spaces/Trails/Hiking/Nature/Gardens
27
8. Equestrian
4
9. Community Center/Facility Rentals
21
10. Youth
4
11. Seniors
2
12. General Facility/Maintenance
21
13. Parking Issues
22
14. Security Concerns
6
15. Miscellaneous
32
Other Activities you Participate in SUMMARY
# of
comments
1. Sports Related
31
2. Basketball
15
3. Yoga/Dancing
13
4. Skateboard
4
5. Kayaking
4
6. Open spaces/trails/hiking/nature/gardens
16
7. Youth
9
8. Miscellaneous
23
GATEWAY
PARK/DEL
CERRO EMAILS
SUBJECT
Del Cerro Park
Parking Issues
DATE FROM
5/3/2015 Dottie Hashizumi
EMAIL
dottiehash@cox.net
*some responses may be
repeated if they address
multiple subjects.
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Pro parking meters at Del
Cerro Park.
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Pro Gateway
Park
Pro Gateway. Requests the
City honor terms of grant and
include equestrian activity
2/22/2015 Jean Longacre ieanlon acre aol.com and trails.
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Request that City give Del
Cerro area alternative
12/1/2014
Bharathi Singh
bsingh@manhattan.k12.ca.us parking for public.
Supports opening another
access and parking area to
11/29/2014
Kevin Tourman
spldeen@gmail.com Portuguese Bend Reserve.
Upset about increase in
public and traffic on
Crenshaw Blvd. near Del
3/16/2015
Alan Weissman
alanweis@mcn.com Cerro park.
Congestion at Del Cerro park
area must be addressed.
Create a turn about at end of
Crenshaw and install no U-
2/5/2015
Mark Schoettler
mwscho@aol.com turn signs.
Anti annual parking pass.
Anti -metered parking. Pro -
4/20/2015
Troy Braswell
troy@eworld-media.com extend the lot on park Place.
Pro parking restrictions in Del
Cerro area. Anti -parking in
Gateway Park as it will
provide dangerous ocean
access and the land is
12/4/2014
Andrew Ely
andrew@elvusa.onmicrosoft.com unstable.
Shared concern with parking
and use of trails at Del Cerro
12/4/2014
Dottie Hashizumi
dottiehash@cox.net area after sundown.
Requested city do something
about traffic congestion on
Crenshaw at Del Cerro Park.
Request signs on Crenshaw to
instruct public to walk on
2/11/2015
Dottie Hashizumi
dottiehash@cox.net sidewalks not the street.
Parking is a problem on
Crenshaw Blvd. It is currently
dangerous. Concerned about
crime increase in the area
with increase in public in that
2/25/2015
Pamela Adrain
pvmomdad@cox.net area.
Pro Gateway. Requests the
City honor terms of grant and
include equestrian activity
2/22/2015 Jean Longacre ieanlon acre aol.com and trails.
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No Gateway
Park
Appendix D-52
Pro Gateway parking as it
would distribute hikers and
would change the usage of
1/26/2015
Gary McCray
garymccray@cox.net the hiking trails positively.
It's a good design, well -
situated and much needed.
Pro -additional reserve access
development. Matt
requested information about
history of the landslide area
2/2/2015
Al Edgerton
ainkathve@msn.com from Mr. Edgerton.
Anti Gateway Park due to
1/28/2015
Marty Vincent
mart31@cox.net area is unsafe.
Anti Gateway Park due to
12/15/2014
Stevens
erstevens@cox.net land shifting.
Anti -Gateway park as is
concerned with increase of
trash, partying at gathering
spots after dark and potential
2/5/2015
Elizabeth Sax
saxhousel@gmajl.com increase of crime.
Anti parking in Gateway Park.
Suggests a different location
2/24/2015
Vicki Pinkham
pinkhamd@aol.com and City Hall or Ladera Linda.
Anti Gateway Park becaue it
will crease traffic and trash.
Security concerns with home
break ins since use of trails
2/8/2015
Ann Muscat
amuscat@cox.net and fields have increased.
Anti Gateway Park parking lot
as the walk from there to the
12/6/2014
Kristina Mirich
juxpraetor@aol.com beaches is dangerous.
Anti -Gateway parking lot.
Concerned the geography of
the land is dangerous.
Increased traffic creates risks
3/8/2015
Steven Carlsen
surfs upsteve@gmaitcom for bicyclists and walkers.
Anti -Gateway Park. (no
reason given) Also opposed
to Lower Point Vicente
enhancements. Leave it the
2/21/2015
Sean Kelly
notworthkeeping@hotmail.com way it is.
Anti Gateway Park project.
Parking is ample already.
2/2/2015
Chris Del Moro
collectic(@gmail.com This project will create unsafe
Appendix D-52
Gateway Park
General
2/24/2015
12/12/2014
1/15/2015
12/8/2014
12/8/2014
1/27/2015
12/4/2014
12/1/2014
1/22/2015
Edmundo Hummel ecarloshum(@izmail.com
Lucianna
Madeleine Mdones
Charles Agnew
Troy Braswell
Lori daniels
Cathy Gardner
Robert Mucha
Gary Randall
lucianna@cox.net
homecoding@gmail.com
cvagnew@cox.net
trov@eworld-media.com
Idaniels@cox.net
gardner4@earthlink.net
patnbobl@cox.net
grapecon@cox.net
pedestrian crossing to
beaches.
Anti -Gateway park as it will
bring more trash, graffiti, and
crime into neighborhood.
Requested trash and graffiti
be cleaned up.
Anti -Gateway Parking lot due
to shifting land and traffic
hazards crossing PV Drive.
Requests focus on area safety
and enjoyment.
Anti -Gateway parking as
maintenance of slide area will
be a burden to the City. Anti
equestrian additions. Pro -
community pool.
Anti Gateway Park parking
lot. It will provide unsafe area
for horses and unsafe access
to beaches. Pro charging
money for parking for this
proposed lot.
Review Gateway Parking by
look at the number of
reported accidents in the last
4-5 years. Increase signage at
entry points to trails.
Reduce equestrian trailer use
and keep parking lot small.
Consider youth group
overnight camping and bike
areas.
Requested information about
Gateway Park meeting and
plans.
Anti -equestrian additions as
Ernie Howlett is enough. She
asks that the City consider
horse trailer parking off of PV
Drive South.
Shared Gateway Park aerial
photos.
Questions the grant
agreement.
Appendix D-53
Dog Park
Appendix D-54
Concerned about litter on
1/22/2015
Diane Smith
radlsmith@cox.net
Trump property.
Concerned with inviting
outsiders to use city trails and
then city cleaning up after
1/13/2015
Diane Smith
radlsmith@cox.net
them.
Anti -making city into a big
2/9/2015
Diane Smith
radlsmith@cox.net
resort by developing parks.
Has a petition with
4/9/2015 Diane Stewart
signatures.
Shared CORBA PV history
11/24/2014
Troy
troy@eworid-media.com
information.
Requested information on
Parks Master Plan document
and workshop at Ladera
Linda. Katie emailed
1/27/2015
Ms. Lovrich
pbclub@cox.net
information to her 1/27/15.
Requested information.Has
the new boundary to
Gateway park been recorded
with LA County? What are
specific deed restrictions to
that land? Joel Rojas
responded with specific
11/26/2014
Sunshine
sunshinerpv@aol.com
historical information.
Requested equestrian groups
be invited to Gateway Master
Plan meeting. Katie
responded with list of groups
sent the flyer for the meeting
11/25/2014
Cory Linder
coryl@rpvca.gov
11/25/14.
Requested information about
the Gateway Park meeting
for the following week. Katie
responded that she had
alreadymailed him a letter
11/25/2014
Al Edgerton
alnkathye@msn.com
inviting him to workshop.
Upper Point
*some responses may be
Vicente/Civic
repeated if they address
Center emails
multiple subjects.
SUBJECT
DATE
FROM
EMAIL
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Anti-NCCP
_
Active Recreation area
should be removed from
3/10/2015
Sunshine
SunshineRPV@aol.com
NCCP.
Dog Park
Appendix D-54
Art Center
LPV (PVIC)
emails
SUBJECT
Park Access
Security
Concerns
LPV Concept
Plan
Leave as is
Miscellaneous
Recommends charging for
dog park use or building
2/3/2015 Mr. Weiner more as it's overcrowded.
Requested information on
10/23/2014 S. Mackenzie cocomack@hotmail.com PV Art Center.
*some responses may be
repeated if they address
multiple subjects.
DATE FROM EMAIL SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Requests earlier accesss to PVIC
for non-profit groups, especially
12/9/2014 Jean Rodgers shorteezl@aol.com whale watchers.
1/27/2015 Herb Stark
ptl7stearman@gmail.com Anti left turn out of the PVIC
Appendix D-55
Valerie and Murray
Anti proposed LPV "Concept
2/18/2015
Blitz
verikon@cox.net
Plan"
2/10/2015
Diane Smith
radlsmith@cox.net
No more development.
Pro-PVIC Expansion (museum)
1/26/2015
Ken Dyda
Historical Society exhibits.
Pro a Community Garden at
8/15/2014
Judy Frankel
iudyfrankel@gmail.com
PVIC
Pro wildlife corridor between
Bluffs Preserve and Alta Vicente
Preserve. Pro succession
planting. Anti -parking lot plan
2/6/2015
David A. Sundstrom
dasundstrcm@gmail.com
addition.
Pro Wall of Honor. Anti -more
educational exhibits. Pro -
phased -in approach to future
2/23/2015
Lynn Swank
lynn.swank@cox.net
use of PVIC.
Request to have RPV amend the
RPV Coast Vision Plan and to
3/16/2015
Sunshine
sunshinerpv@aol.com
incorporate the RPV NCCP.
Appendix D-55
EASTVIEW
PARK
SUBJECT
Anti -Dogs Off
Leash
No Dog Park
Pro Dog Park
Feral Cats
General
Facility/
Maintenance
Requesting a fence around the playground equipment at
Tiffany jandtholland03 Eastview Park. Concerned about her child's safety. Dogs
1/13/2015 Holland @hotmail.com running freely in the park complaint.
Kim@deforestse Concerned about her child's safety. Dogs running freely
4/6/2015 Kim Vilicich arch.com in the park complaint
Augie augiebez@aol.c
3/9/2015 Bezmalinovich om
Clarinda ckotowski@sbcg
11/5/2014 Kotowski lobal.net
11/13/2014 Brian Haig bhaig@lawa.or
Augie augiebez@aol.c
3/9/2015 Bezmalinovich om
hvybags@cox.ne
1/9/2015 April Sandell t
Saundra
10/17/2014 Saumay
10/27/2014 Ruthe Meyer
saundrasaumay
@gmail.com
ruthe mever@o
utlook.com
Raised concerns about coyote sighting and posting signs,
feral cat problem, anti -dog park, adding more shade
structures, including BBQ stations, car break-ins are a
major problem, water line breaks needed contact
information on a weekend, increase in the homeless,
poor walking path conditions, more lighting and parties
that leave overflowing trash.
Pro dog park.
Pro dog park.
Raised concerns about coyote sighting and posting signs,
feral cat problem, anti -dog park, adding more shade
structures, including BBQ stations, car break-ins are a
major problem, water line breaks needed contact
information on a weekend, increase in the homeless,
poor walking path conditions, more lighting and parties
that leave overflowing trash.
Concern with feral cats and people feeding them
Requesting exercise equipment and par course.
Suggested park landscaping and benches under tree
shade.
Appendix D-56
*some responses may be repeated if they address
multiple subjects.
DATE FROM EMAIL
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
eesanchez2003
11/14/2014 Ed Sanchez @yahoo.com
Negative experience with dogs off leash and owners.
James iames.mckenna
Concerned with dogs off leash and wants a fence around
12/26/2014 McKenna @live.com
the play ground
Requesting a fence around the playground equipment at
Tiffany jandtholland03 Eastview Park. Concerned about her child's safety. Dogs
1/13/2015 Holland @hotmail.com running freely in the park complaint.
Kim@deforestse Concerned about her child's safety. Dogs running freely
4/6/2015 Kim Vilicich arch.com in the park complaint
Augie augiebez@aol.c
3/9/2015 Bezmalinovich om
Clarinda ckotowski@sbcg
11/5/2014 Kotowski lobal.net
11/13/2014 Brian Haig bhaig@lawa.or
Augie augiebez@aol.c
3/9/2015 Bezmalinovich om
hvybags@cox.ne
1/9/2015 April Sandell t
Saundra
10/17/2014 Saumay
10/27/2014 Ruthe Meyer
saundrasaumay
@gmail.com
ruthe mever@o
utlook.com
Raised concerns about coyote sighting and posting signs,
feral cat problem, anti -dog park, adding more shade
structures, including BBQ stations, car break-ins are a
major problem, water line breaks needed contact
information on a weekend, increase in the homeless,
poor walking path conditions, more lighting and parties
that leave overflowing trash.
Pro dog park.
Pro dog park.
Raised concerns about coyote sighting and posting signs,
feral cat problem, anti -dog park, adding more shade
structures, including BBQ stations, car break-ins are a
major problem, water line breaks needed contact
information on a weekend, increase in the homeless,
poor walking path conditions, more lighting and parties
that leave overflowing trash.
Concern with feral cats and people feeding them
Requesting exercise equipment and par course.
Suggested park landscaping and benches under tree
shade.
Appendix D-56
LADERA
LINDA
SUBJECT
General
Facility/
Maintenance
Security
Concerns
Miscellaneous
Requesting a fence around the playground equipment at
Tiffany jandtholland03 Eastview Park. Concerned about her child's safety. Dogs
1/13/2015 Holland @hotmail.com running freely in the park complaint.
Augie aggiebez@aol.c
3/9/2015 Bezmalinovich om
twosharars@cox
1/27/2015 Joe net
Raised concerns about coyote sighting and posting signs,
feral cat problem, anti -dog park, adding more shade
structures, including BBQ stations, car break-ins are a
major problem, water line breaks needed contact
information on a weekend, increase in the homeless,
poor walking path conditions, more lighting and parties
that leave overflowing trash.
Requested park improvements on the Eastside
Cynthia cindy.venning@ Raised concerns about broken water sprinklers, trash not
3/9/2015 Venning gmail.com picked up and mutt mitts not available.
*some responses may be repeated if they
address multiple subjects.
DATE FROM EMAIL SUMMARY(BRIEF)
10/9/2014
4/12/2015
2/17/2015
10/9/2014
Edward
Stevens erstevens@cox.net
Charles Agnew cvagnew@cox.net
Marty Foster bfos@cox.net
Edward
Stevens erstevens@cox.net
2/17/2015 Marty Foster bfos@cox.net
11/23/2014 Herb Stark ptl7stearman@gmail.com
Add signs to slow cars down through dirt
parking lot. Regularly maintain dirt
parking lot to reduce debris on courts.
Anti -asphalt chunks placed in parking lot
near paddle tennis courts. Melissa
Countryman responded 4/13/15.
Leave Ladera Linda as is. Replace wall for
hitting balls. Remove poster forbidding
bicycling. Add ping pong table. Add a
traffic light to PV Drive and Forrestal
intersection.
Requests new paddle tennis nets. Mona
ordered them 10/9/14. Request to re-
align courts.
Leave Ladera Linda as is. Replace wall for
hitting balls. Remove poster forbidding
bicycling. Add ping pong table. Add a
traffic light to PV Drive and Forrestal
intersection.
Concerned with crime and speeding
traffic. Anti -development of LL.
Appendix D-57
Florence
10/18/2014 Fenton flofentonl@cox.net
11/24/2014 Jack Fleming ijfleming2000@yahoo.com
2/19/2015 Susan Wilcox swiicox@pvplc.org
11/13/2014
Marty Foster
2/17/2015 Marty Foster
Parking Issue
Hesse Park emails
SUBJECT
Lower Hesse Park
Project
rgdewey@cox.net
barbailor@emaii.com
Pro ping pong table at LL against pool
table.
Concerned with traffic and speeding on
Forrestal and wants to see improvement
to exisiting LL facilities.
Complemented RPV Staff on Parks
Presentation at LL.
Requests new paddle tennis nets. Mona
ordered them 10/9/14. Anti Gateway
project. Wants to reorient paddle tennis
courts to face east and west.
Pro -Comment on Nature Center at LL
lainini@ILLii-nptiational.com Request for recap of second LL workshop.
Reported on results of LL Community
Center questionnaire organized by
residents. Note: Survey results are
bfos@cox.net included in Master Plan appendices.
Seeking information for 11/12/14
rnartycrna@cox.net meeting at LL. Matt responded 11/13/14.
Leave Ladera Linda as is. Replace wall for
hitting balls. Remove poster forbidding
bicycling. Add ping pong table. Add a
traffic light to PV Drive and Forrestal
bfos@cox.net intersection.
1/26/2015 Jessica Vlaco vlaco5@cox.net
DATE FROM EMAIL
3/10/2015 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
2/25/2015 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
2/13/2015 Les Chapin les.alice@cox.net
Open gates during the day. Cars are
parked in her neighborhood.
*some responses may be repeated if
they address multiple subjects.
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Sports related: suggested alternate
flooring for Basketball Court to
minimize noise.
Requested meeting to discuss Lower
Hesse park. Concerned with cost and
amenities of scaled down project.
Concerned with open
space/trails/view/landscaping of
Lower Hesse Park.
Appendix D-58
R. Gene
12/16/2014
Dewey
Bill and
1/20/2015
Andrea Ailor
1/27/2015
Lili Amini
2/4/2015
Marty Foster
11/13/2014
Marty Foster
2/17/2015 Marty Foster
Parking Issue
Hesse Park emails
SUBJECT
Lower Hesse Park
Project
rgdewey@cox.net
barbailor@emaii.com
Pro ping pong table at LL against pool
table.
Concerned with traffic and speeding on
Forrestal and wants to see improvement
to exisiting LL facilities.
Complemented RPV Staff on Parks
Presentation at LL.
Requests new paddle tennis nets. Mona
ordered them 10/9/14. Anti Gateway
project. Wants to reorient paddle tennis
courts to face east and west.
Pro -Comment on Nature Center at LL
lainini@ILLii-nptiational.com Request for recap of second LL workshop.
Reported on results of LL Community
Center questionnaire organized by
residents. Note: Survey results are
bfos@cox.net included in Master Plan appendices.
Seeking information for 11/12/14
rnartycrna@cox.net meeting at LL. Matt responded 11/13/14.
Leave Ladera Linda as is. Replace wall for
hitting balls. Remove poster forbidding
bicycling. Add ping pong table. Add a
traffic light to PV Drive and Forrestal
bfos@cox.net intersection.
1/26/2015 Jessica Vlaco vlaco5@cox.net
DATE FROM EMAIL
3/10/2015 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
2/25/2015 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
2/13/2015 Les Chapin les.alice@cox.net
Open gates during the day. Cars are
parked in her neighborhood.
*some responses may be repeated if
they address multiple subjects.
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Sports related: suggested alternate
flooring for Basketball Court to
minimize noise.
Requested meeting to discuss Lower
Hesse park. Concerned with cost and
amenities of scaled down project.
Concerned with open
space/trails/view/landscaping of
Lower Hesse Park.
Appendix D-58
2/12/2015 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
2/5/2015 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
1/19/2015 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
1/9/2015 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
12/19/2014 Les Chapin les.alice@cox.net
12/16/2014 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
12/16/2014 Les Chapin les.alice@cox.net
12/16/2014 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
12/10/2014 John Freeman irfree@cox.net
12/4/2014 John Freeman Irfree@cox.net
Skate Park emails
SUBJECT DATE FROM
Pro Skate Board
Park
12/8/2014
Jim Parker
2/3/2015
Chuck Hunt
12/28/2014
Jim Parker
3/24/2015 Clara Duran Reed
3/24/2015 Alex Gray
3/5/2015 Jim Parker
3/2/2015 Danny Phillips
2/27/2015 Tamar Gillotti
EMAIL
ip@iimparker.us
chuck@spbts.org
ip@iimparker.us
pv realtor@yahoo,
com
agrav86@aol.com
skate@iimparker.0
View preservation/open space/no
tennis courts due to little public
support.
Requested Parks Master Plan
presentation on webpage.
Shared results from 2010 outreach
survey.
Requested information from City
Clerk RE:Public Records request.
Requested thistle be removed from
Lower Hesse Park.
Requested trail maintenance,
landscaping and clogged storm drain
at Lower Hesse Park.
Requested trail maintenance, tree
removal and view restoration.
Requested trail maintenance, tree
removal and view restoration.
Discussed December Hesse Park
meeting with Katie.
Forwarding Park Plan to HOA.
*some responses may be
repeated if they address
multiple subjects.
SUMMARY(BRIEF)
Pro -Skate Park.
Support a skate board park.
Pro -Skate Park.
Pro -skate park.
Asked Susan Brooks when
next meeting is about skate
park. Carolynn Petru
responded 3/25/15.
s
Pro -skate park information.
Vendor that requested city
dannv@americanra
consider an all -wheel sports
mpcompany.com
park and skate park updates.
tamar@easvreader
Requests information on skate
news.com
park for media.
Appendix D-59
General *some responses may be
Correspondence repeated if they address
emails multiple subjects.
SUBJECT DATE FROM EMAIL SUMMARY(BRIEF)
MISCELLANEOUS
Responding to Sunshine's
discussion RE: open space,
trail access and Portuguese
5/24/2015 Ken Garland Rarlandk77@email.com Bend Reserve.
Have staff finalized Master
5/12/2015 Al and Kathy Edgerton alnkathve@msn.com Plan recommendations?
Requested pre-release copy
of recommendation for LL
5/12/2015 Herb Stark ptl7stearman@gmal.com and Gateway Parks.
Appendix D-60
Pro -skate park. Anxious to
10/4/2014
Jim Parker
ip@iimparker.us
start fund raising .
suzyseamans@cox.
Requested information on
9/13/2014
Suzy Seamans
net
Quimby funds.
Wants to discuss using a rally
at the Peninsla Library in Oct.
or Nov 2014 for skate park
9/3/2014
Jim Parker
ip@iimparker.us
outreach.
ptl7stearman@gm
7/30/2014
Herb Stark
ail.com
Anti -skate park.
Cory Linder responded to him
8/12/2014
Jim Parker
jP@iimparker.us
RE: Master Plans beginning.
Requested information on the
sunshinerpv@aol.c
skate plaza item at a prior City
7/30/2014
Sunshine
om
Council meeting.
dlfriedson@gmail.c
7/28/2014
Dena Friedson
om
Pro -skate park.
ablood @chadwicks
4/28/2015
Aiden Blood
chooLore
Pro -skate park.
ellen.november@�
11/6/2014
Ellen November
mail.com
Pro -skate park.
MISCELLANEOUS
Shared Informaiton on skate
park and the Quitclaim Deed
granting a major portion of
dlfriedson@gmail.c
UPV to RPV free of charge.
7/28/2014
Dena Friedson
om
Discussed passive open space.
General *some responses may be
Correspondence repeated if they address
emails multiple subjects.
SUBJECT DATE FROM EMAIL SUMMARY(BRIEF)
MISCELLANEOUS
Responding to Sunshine's
discussion RE: open space,
trail access and Portuguese
5/24/2015 Ken Garland Rarlandk77@email.com Bend Reserve.
Have staff finalized Master
5/12/2015 Al and Kathy Edgerton alnkathve@msn.com Plan recommendations?
Requested pre-release copy
of recommendation for LL
5/12/2015 Herb Stark ptl7stearman@gmal.com and Gateway Parks.
Appendix D-60
outandabout@yahoo.co Request to be kept aware of
4/30/2015
John Small
m
Master Plan.
Mary Hirsch responded to
his request for the RPV parks
5/6/2015
Bruce McGowan
_
survey 5/6/15.
Concerned about Abalone
4/27/2015
Diane Smith
radlsmith@cox.net
Cove dangers to people.
Requested that residents be
informed about grant money
that City and Conservancy
4/16/2015
Diane Smith
radismith@cox.net
request.
Requested information on
3/23/2015
Marty Foster
martycrna@cox.net
survey monkey.
georginaandtony@aol.co
Requested biking and roller
2/16/2015
Georgina
m
skating in RPV parks.
Anti private and permanent
2/15/2015
Carolyn Cahill
carriecahillasher@me.com
memorials on public land.
Received letter from
resident disappointed in City
2/13/2015
Jim Knight
knightiim33@gmail.com
Hall tennis court condition.
Two workshops scheduled
2/12/2015
Sunshine
sunshinerpv@aol.cm
on the same night.
Promotes farming on the hill
and old farming machinery
available for children of all
2/3/2015
Sunshine
sunshinerov@aol.cm
ages to play with.
2/2/2015
Sunshine
sunshinerpv@aol.cm
Pro -signage on RPV trails.
Information on grants for
historic restoration and the
Nike missile base in Marin
1/29/2015
David Sundstrom
dasundstrom@gmail.com
County.
Interested in receiving
updates for the Parks Master
11/7/2014
Florence Fenton
flofentonl@cox.net
Plan.
Requested synopsis of the
12/2/2014
Anke Raue
ankeraue@verizon.net
Park planning sessions.
Requested copy of Master
12/5/2014
Diane Smith
dasundstrom@gmail.com
Plan Survey.
Offered high resolution 3D
11/6/2014
Austin Logie
alogie@cybercity3d.com
data.
10/30/2014
Lawrence Liang
runliang@gmail.com
Pro pool in RPV.
How much of the 1600 acre
PV Nature Preserve is in
11/3/2014
Mary Scott
mscott@Avnews.com
RPV?
Pro -golf course and aquatic
10/22/2014
Elaine conovaloff
econova55@gmail.com
center.
10/19/2014
Enne
flutterlillv@email.com
Support aquatic center.
Appendix D-61
Appendix D-62
mark.schoettIer.eawd@st
Request for par course at
10/2/2014
Mark Schoettler
atefarm.com
Del Cerro Park.
Questions why no public
workshops for Grandview
10/20/2014
John Freeman
irfree@cox.net
and Ryan Parks?
Questioned an error on a
10/20/2014
John Freeman
Irfree@cox.net
flyer for Master Plan.
Asked for details on Parks
11/22/2014
Lawrence Liang
runliang_@gmail.com
Plan.
Comments, questions, and
Eva
suggestions regarding the
11/14/2014
Cicoria
cicoriae@aol.com
PMP Survey.
Technical issue completing
the survey. Feedback
petra.schneider@netzero,
concerning one of the
12/1/2014
Petra Schneider
net
questions.
Is Parks plan survey for LL
11/28/2014
Linda Loconte
Iloconte@cox.net
only?
Response to planning
commission Bob Nelson.
Support for Palos Verdes
Loop Trail Project. Expressed
concern that public use of
trails in RPV is being
10/3/2014
Sunshine
SunshineRPV@aol.com
reduced.
Her concern in Emergency
2/3/2015
Sunshine
SunshineRPV@aol.com
circulation and civil defense
Can't attend the meetings.
2/12/2015
Anna Avelino
annabere@gmail.com
Requested online survey.
Requested that wheelchair
susandouglas._md@cox.ne
access be incorporated in all
2/12/2015
Susan Douglas
t
projects the City considers.
Missed LL and Gateway Park
meetings. Wants to review
2/17/2015
Lynn Swank
lynn.swank@cox.net
materials.
Appendix D-62
Online Survey
The City conducted an online survey from November 2014 to March 15, 2015, collecting 743
responses. Questions ranged from general attitudes about recreation to how often
respondents engaged in particular recreation activities. There were also a number of detailed
questions about attitudes towards recreation elements at both Ladera Linda Park and Point
Vicente Park/Civic Center. Respondents were also able to provide individualized short form
responses as well.
Beginning on the next page are charts showing survey responses:
Appendix D-63
The City of Rancho Palos Verdes Parks Master Plan Update Survey
Q1 Do you live in the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes?
Yes
No
Answered: 736 Skipped:7
0% 10% 20% 30% 40°% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100%
Answer Choices Responses
Yes 86.82%
No 13.18%
Total
Appendix D-64
639
97
736