CC SR 20170801 04 - Ladera Linda Park Master PlanRANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: 08/01/2017
AGENDA REPORT AGENDA HEADING: Regular Business
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to review and approve the Ladera Linda Park Master
Plan.
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
(1) Review and approve the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan and direct Staff to
proceed with developing an RFP for detailed construction drawings for the
project.
FISCAL IMPACT: None.
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Matt Waters, Senior Administrative Analyst
REVIEWED BY: Cory Linder, Director of Recreation & Parks
APPROVED BY: Doug Willmore, City Manager :`'3...
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
A. April 26, 2017, Public Workshop Minutes (page A-1)
B. April 26, 2017, Workshop PowerPoint presentation (page B-1)
C. Ladera Linda Master Plan Summary of Community Comments (page C-1)
D. Correspondence received during Public Workshop comment period (April
26 — May 10, 2017) (page D-1)
E. Ladera Linda Correspondence received after comment period (page E-1)
F. October 18, 2016 City Council Ladera Linda Update Staff report (page F-
1)
G. Estimate of Probable Construction Costs (page G-1)
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
Ladera Linda Park has served the residents of Rancho Palos Verdes well since its
opening in 1983, following a long tenure as an elementary school. Generations of
residents and visitors enjoyed the site both as a school and as a park and community
center. However, the pre -fabricated buildings and infrastructure of this community jewel
are currently in poor condition. A 2013 Infrastructure Report Card prepared by SA
Associates, an engineering firm hired to assess the current condition of existing public
structures in the City, noted that the Ladera Linda Community Center received an
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overall infrastructure score of "F" (FAIL). The report notes that Ladera Linda buildings
are prefabricated, assembled -on-site interlocking metallic panel construction structures
built in the 1960s. The report notes that "maintenance is no longer effective", the
buildings are "seismically questionable", "not ADA compliant", with "no ventilation and
no operating heating/cooling system", "no sprinkler system", and notes the buildings are
not energy efficient based on thermal infrared testing. The report also references
concerns about lead-based paint and the presence of asbestos in floor and ceiling tiles
and other building materials. The report includes the following recommendation for four
of the five buildings:
Recommendation: (1) Given the potential costs associated with
renovation, the cost of maintenance, and the fact that the building is an
energy hog, a new facility might be a better investment. (2) The
remediation of the building is unreasonable for the overall Return on
Investment. (3) For the time being, at a minimum, seismic retrofitting
should be considered.
For the fifth building, which consists of a classroom, two restrooms, and a janitors'
closet, the report recommends a seismic retrofitting along with renovation of the existing
restrooms "at a minimum." Based on that analysis, Staff recommended that the
buildings be demolished and rebuilt in the Parks Master Plan Update that the City
Council approved in 2015.
On September 1, 2015, the City Council directed Staff to issue a Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Demolition of the existing buildings and
the building of a new community center at Ladera Linda were part of the scope of the
Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council on October 6, 2015. On
October 19, 2015, Staff issued RFPs to design firms for the creation of a Ladera Linda
Parks Master Plan. Richard Fisher Associates (RFA), a firm that has completed well
over a hundred park master plan and development projects, was selected by the City
Council on June 6, 2016.
Following formal approval of the project, RFA began work on the Master Plan in early
September 2016. Since that time, RFA has met with Staff, conducted preliminary site
and document research, held several site visits, met with a variety of interested parties
and other users of the facility, and co -hosted a community workshop at Ladera Linda on
September 22, 2016, which was attended by over 80 people. A number of concerns
about the process and the Master Plan project were raised, both at that workshop and
in subsequent emails.
Due to these concerns, Staff presented a status update to the City Council on October
18, 2016 (Attachment F). After hearing a number of resident comments on issues
ranging from the size of the new building, storage, traffic, safety concerns and a support
for a "less is more" philosophy in park planning, the City Council unanimously voted to
receive and file the update report. Based on feedback from residents and City Council,
RFA and Staff proceeded with creating two alternative designs for Ladera Linda Park.
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These two designs were presented to the public at a public workshop held on April 26,
2017, at the Ladera Linda Community Center (Attachments A & B). At that workshop,
Staff and RFA presented a detailed comparison of the two designs and solicited public
comments, questions, and concerns. Approximately 60 people attended the workshop.
Both designs embraced community and City Council feedback in the following ways:
• Reduced building square footage/footprint
• Maintain existing elements
• Low-key, neighborhood feel
• No gymnasium, pool, or dog park
• New community center, trails, nature room
• Constraints on usage
• Modest/restrained design scope
• Traffic/parking Impact
• Emphasis on crime and security
Concept A
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Concept B
Both Concept A and B contain the same components. No recreation components were
added that do not currently exist at Ladera Linda Community Center. Both plans also
included grading to make the current separated three -tiered layout to the park flow more
seamlessly.
The main differences between the two plans were the location of the Community Center
building, the configuration of the parking lot, and the park entrance location. Plan A
maintained the existing entrance drive way, featured a more central building location,
and divided the parking lot into two main sections, one section located on the paddle
tennis level and the other between the building and playground/turf area. Plan B shifted
the park entrance driveway to Pirate Drive, located the building in the Northeast corner
of the park on the paddle tennis level, and had one central parking lot.
The Recommended Concept: Concept A-1
Extensive public feedback and City Council direction informed the creation of the
recommended concept below (Concept A-1). Many of the ideas and comments from
the April 26th workshop and subsequent emails were incorporated into the final
recommended design (Attachments C, D & E). The general feedback received from
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Both Concept A and B contain the same components. No recreation components were
added that do not currently exist at Ladera Linda Community Center. Both plans also
included grading to make the current separated three -tiered layout to the park flow more
seamlessly.
The main differences between the two plans were the location of the Community Center
building, the configuration of the parking lot, and the park entrance location. Plan A
maintained the existing entrance drive way, featured a more central building location,
and divided the parking lot into two main sections, one section located on the paddle
tennis level and the other between the building and playground/turf area. Plan B shifted
the park entrance driveway to Pirate Drive, located the building in the Northeast corner
of the park on the paddle tennis level, and had one central parking lot.
The Recommended Concept: Concept A-1
Extensive public feedback and City Council direction informed the creation of the
recommended concept below (Concept A-1). Many of the ideas and comments from
the April 26th workshop and subsequent emails were incorporated into the final
recommended design (Attachments C, D & E). The general feedback received from
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Attachment C combines the responses received both at the April 26th workshop and in
the subsequent two-week comment period. Concept A was the clearly -preferred option,
with 22 favorable responses compared to five in favor of Concept B. Additionally, the
Ladera Linda Homeowners Association met on April 27th and voted to support Concept
A. The only other issues that registered over ten responses were: a) moving one or
both basketball courts from the proposed paddle tennis level to the lower level of the
park next to the playground equipment; and b) expanding parking to include spaces
along Forrestal Drive.
The re -positioning of the basketball courts addressed potential noise impacts on
residents to the west of the park while also accommodating families who want to use
the courts and the playgrounds at the same time. Based on this feedback, Concept A
was modified to accommodate the relocation of the basketball courts. This is not only a
standard park design configuration, but it also helped minimize the impact on the
adjacent turf area. The shift of the basketball courts necessitated a re -positioning of the
butterfly garden and the addition of some additional landscaping to the west of the
paddle tennis courts.
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Forrestal Drive parking was not included in either Concept A or B, but due to the strong
community response, a basic layout was included in the recommended design. While
viewpoints were mixed, most speakers and respondents were in favor of having parking
on Forrestal Drive to accommodate people accessing the Forrestal Reserve. Concerns
were expressed that if parking is not allowed, Forrestal Reserve users will either take up
parking spaces intended for park visitors, or simply park in neighborhoods adjacent to
the park. The recommended design (A-1) includes 28 parking spaces located at the
end of Forrestal Drive. A turn -around area for equestrian trailers is included. A gate is
proposed at the end of Forrestal Drive to stop vehicular access into the Forrestal
Reserve. Staff would be able to secure both the existing Forrestal Drive gate and the
proposed gate at dusk to minimize possibility of un -permitted nighttime access.
Dozens of other comments and suggestions were made including community center
views (pro and con), security cameras, shaded areas, lighting, and privacy concerns.
Many of these concerns will be accommodated and addressed during the construction
design phase of the project, if approved.
Below is a list of the recommended design's main components. The existing park has
all of the same components; no additional recreation elements have been added.
• Community Center (same size and design in both layouts, approximately 9,100
Square Feet)
• Outdoor basketball courts (1 full court/1 half court)
• Children playground areas (Ages 2-5 and 5-12)
• Parking
• Outdoor Butterfly garden
• Turf areas
• Extensive Landscaping
• Walking trails
• Paddle Tennis Courts (existing)
• Separate storage building
• Drinking fountains, benches, picnic tables and other park amenities
• Trees for shade
• Perimeter fencing
• Two parking areas (65 total parking spaces)
• Walkways
• Park sign
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Communitv Center Buildina: Recommended Desian
As mentioned previously, the proposed community center was the same size (9,137
square feet) and same layout in both Concept A and Concept B. Based on community
feedback, the building was significantly reduced in size from the current combined
13,500 square footage of the 5 buildings at Ladera Linda Park. The proposed building
includes the following components:
• A 1,748 -square -foot multi-purpose room which can be divided in half.
• Two classrooms, one 883 square feet and the other 798 square feet
• A 1,026 -square -foot Discovery/Nature Room
• A drop-in office for Sheriff and Open Space personnel, and City Council
• Staff office
• Storage
• Restrooms
• Kitchen/staging area adjacent to multi-purpose room
• Lobby area and corridor space
The classrooms, multi-purpose room, and Discovery Room are approximately the same
size as similar components at the current Ladera Linda Park layout. The building size is
700 square feet smaller than the Hesse Park Community Building, which is
approximately 9,880 square feet.
The April 2611 workshop included a lively discussion about views, with some residents
wanting to maximize the building's views while others expressed concerns that
impressive views might attract too much rental activity. The current building design
takes a conservative approach to views, emphasizing the activities that will take place in
the building, e.g. classes, HOA meetings, summer programs, etc. The exterior areas of
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the park will feature greatly improved views, especially with the building moved to the
east against the natural slope.
The overlay diagram below shows the size of the proposed building (in gray) compared
to the size of the current size of the Ladera Linda set of buildings (in blue). Please note
that this diagram does not show the new building's proposed location. The proposed
new building is shown over the location of the site's current buildings.
Cost Estimate/Financial Information
The Ladera Linda Park and Community Center project was included in the 2015 Capital
Improvement Plan (CIP) as an estimated $7.2 million project. This estimate was
created before the Ladera Linda Master Plan process commenced.
RFA's scope of work included generating a preliminary construction cost estimate
(Attachment G). The estimate details 59 line items, including mobilization, demolition,
building a community center, landscaping, grading, parking, fencing, playground and
basketball courts construction, park amenities, lighting and signage. The construction
project total is estimated at $7,657,800. This does not include any contingency, nor
does it include the cost of the construction drawings and community input stage
($350,000), because that is already budgeted. The arch itect/engineers used to develop
the construction ready documents would be chosen through an RFP. The largest single
item is the construction of the community center which is estimated at $4,222,500.
These figures are preliminary estimates and there are many variables which impact
them. A more specific budget would be developed after construction drawings are
completed and released for bid.
After speaking with several construction estimators and construction engineers, Staff
believes that value engineering efforts can significantly lower the estimated cost during
the construction document and bidding phase. In addition, there are a wide range of
financing possibilities and opportunities to possibly minimize the City's financial impact.
• Staff believes that a number of grant funding opportunities from a variety of
sources, including State and County grant programs, might be obtained. These
could be grants from anything from playground equipment, to drought tolerant
landscaping and pervious paving. We would recommend turning over every
stone to research and apply for any grants that might apply to any aspect of this
project.
• Staff recommends that the City Council should consider developing this project
with a Public/Private Partnership model (P3). P3s are projects that are financed
and developed by private development companies. The private company owns
and maintains the building for a specific period of time during which time the
building is leased back to the public agency for a lease period of 25-30 years. At
the end of the lease period, ownership of the project is turned over to the public
agency, and the City would own the asset outright for the rest of its useable life,
typically another 20-30 years. A P3 is a viable option for a project even of this
small size. Advantages of a P3 can mean a quicker construction and
development schedule; a lower project cost (possibly by as much as 20%); and
much lower upfront costs to the public agency. A lease payment for a project of
this size could be as low as $200,000/year for a 30 year lease term.
• Unencumbered Quimby funds of $800,000 are also available and are restricted
for use to Parks and Recreation facilities. Staff recommends that $750,000 of
those funds be applied to the construction costs of this project.
Phasing is sometimes considered in park projects. Staff has looked at phasing as an
option but it doesn't appear to benefit this project and thus, Staff does not recommend
phasing. The two natural phases of this project are (1) the Community Center building
and (2) the exterior landscaping and park components. To build a building and have it
surrounded by an undeveloped or non -landscaped park doesn't seem to give the
community what it wants. Alternatively, to demolish the current dilapidated buildings and
complete the exterior landscaping and park while leaving the Community Center to a
later date also doesn't seem to give the community what it desires. Moreover, under this
last scenario, constructing the Community Center after the exterior park improvements
ends up turning much of the site into a construction zone and exterior improvements
would need to be repaired or redone after the construction of the Community Center is
complete. Doing the necessary grading and site prep to reshape the whole park into a
unified, organic whole would be problematic in a phased construction approach. So,
phasing doesn't appear to be a viable option for this project. In addition, as construction
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costs continue to rise (The Turner Building Cost Index increased by 4.96% from the 2nd
quarter of 2016 to the 2nd quarter of 2017), phasing this project would also likely
translate to the City paying for increased construction costs down the road.
Subsequent to City Council approval of the Master Plan or at the City Council's
direction, Staff can bring back a more detailed budget for Ladera Linda, along with
alternative and recommended financing approaches.
An additional $61,000 for Forrestal Road parking improvements is listed as a separate
item in Attachment G. This potential element is located outside of the park boundaries,
but it is included for City Council consideration because of the potential impact on the
adjacent park property. This project could be constructed using existing funds in the
Public Works Department budget.
ADDITIONAL MASTER PLAN RELATED ISSUES:
City Council's "Less is More" Philosophy
The recommended design is intended to follow the City Council's emphasis on a "less is
more" approach to park planning, which was established during the Parks Master Plan
Update process which was approved in October 2015. The interior and exterior
components closely mirror current uses on site. Large-scale recreation elements such
as a pool, gym, dog park and skate park are not included. No elements that were
opposed by the community during the Parks Master Plan process are included.
Below are the Parks Master Plan recommendations for Ladera Linda Park that helped
guide this process.
2015 PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE RECOMMENDATIONS
Development of New Community Center
• Develop facilitated Master Plan and public outreach process for
development of new Ladera Linda Park Community Center.
• Incorporate expanded Nature Center/Preserve Annex and
Sheriff/Ranger drop-in office into Master Plan Process
• Upon completion of Master Plan Process, proceed with demolition of
existing buildings and construction of new Community Center
Additional Enhancements: Recommendations below should be
done in conjunction with Community Center development
• Pave access road between lower and middle parking lots
• Improve landscaping on existing multi -use playing field
• Upgrade surfacing of current asphalt play area:; Keep two basketball
courts
• Transition to drought -tolerant landscaping where feasible
• Install interior paddle tennis fencing separating the two courts
• Replace current railroad tie stairs with concrete stairs
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Staffina Levels
Ladera Linda Park is currently staffed by one part-time Staff member per shift who is
overseen by a full-time Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase
staffing to two part-time Staff per shift with one full-time Supervisor. This is comparable
to staffing levels at Hesse Park and the Point Vicente Interpretive Center (PVIC). A mix
of Sheriff's personnel and 4 Open Space Management Staff would only use their office
for periodic drop-in use, since the vast majority of their time will be spent performing
public safety monitoring in the Nature Preserve. Open Space Staff and the Sheriff's
Preserve deputies are already using existing office space for a drop-in office. The drop-
in office could also be used by City Council members to meet with constituents. Several
docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour of the Discovery/Nature Center room
or work on artifacts, just as they do now.
Alternative Storage Locations
Because of its large foot print and numerous rooms, Ladera Linda Park has been used
as an informal storage and workplace area for many years by groups such as Las
Candalistas and the Los Serenos Docents. The proposed new building does not
include storage space for non -profits or community organizations. It is anticipated that
appropriate storage for the Docents' artifacts and supplies will be established at PVIC.
This location is much better suited for this purpose, since the Docent's activities are
largely centered at PVIC. Las Candalistas has been notified and has graciously
accepted that storage will not be available for their organization once the
demolition/construction process begins.
Level of Activity
Many residents expressed a desire to keep the types of use and the levels of activities
similar to current levels. Ladera Linda Park has been a community park since 1983 and
will continue to be so. Below are some steps being taken to ensure that the Master Plan
process is in line with Council's direction to be respectful of park impacts on adjacent
neighbors while maintaining a low-key, community feel.
First, as mentioned before, the Master Plan will have no significant added elements: no
pool, gym, skate park, or dog park. Second, there will be a significantly smaller
community center footprint than currently exists, which will allow for more green space
and safe areas for children to play outside. A nature center and Sheriff's and Open
Space Management drop-in office are already on site and are being considered for the
new site. There will still be classes, HOA meetings, summer camps and paddle tennis
at Ladera Linda Park.
Third, park policies will be established during this process that will effectively manage
the type and number of events that are allowed, as well as hours and noise levels.
These policies will be created with extensive feedback from local residents who are both
most knowledgeable of and most affected by park usage. Staff will coordinate usage
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with AYSO and the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District to mitigate parking
and traffic impact during their busiest times.
Next Steps
Pending City Council approval of the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan, Staff would
develop an RFP process for City Council review to identify and select a consultant to
create construction -ready documents for this important community project. RFA
estimates that the total project process, including the creation and approval of
construction documents, pre -constructions, demolition and construction would take at
least 18-24 months.
ALTERNATIVES:
In addition to the Staff recommendation, the following alternative actions are available
for the City Council's consideration:
1. Choose not to approve the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan.
2. Provide direction to Staff regarding particular aspects of the Plan.
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City of Rancho Palos Verdes — Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Public Workshop
Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2017
Time: 6:OOpm — 8:30pm
Location: Ladera Linda Park — 32201 Forrestal Dr., Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
City Staff: Recreation: Cory Linder, Dan Trautner, Matt Waters, Mona Dill, Nancie Silver &
Mary Hirsch
Consultant: Richard Fisher Associates: Dick Fisher, Taylor Smith
Meyer and Associates: Randy Meyer
Topic: Requesting the input of the community members utilizing Ladera Linda Park
regarding Concept A and Concept B
Summary: City staff began with an overview of events leading up to this point, including
initial direction received from City Council and RFA's data gathering process, as
well as last September's Public Workshop. Staff also did a quick overview of key
design elements that are included (or excluded), as requested by the community
and City Council. City Staff concluded by giving an outline of the next steps in
the process once all input has been received from the community in regards to
the two alternate concept plans. Dick Fisher presented both concept plans.
Community Comments / Questions / Concerns:
• Want to make sure new trees will be planted to replace those taken down.
• Really like that the two playgrounds are near each other. Possible to move basketball
near play equipment?
• Will there be lighting in the park and, if so, how late will they be on? There will be low-
level security lights on timers. Important for safety but not be disruptive to residents.
• Would like more picnic tables or a pad area for larger groups.
• What is kept in Storage Buildings? Is this enough space for emergency preparedness
or will they need more? Storage can house emergency facility needs.
• What is the difference on Plans for # of parking spaces? Plan A — 65 / Plan B - 64
• Why does there have to be an additional ADA path separate from driveway?
• How much more driveway on Plan B than Plan A?
• Plan B crowds Paddle Tennis area
• Address parking on Forrestal — like the idea of parallel parking for trails — it should be
included on the Plan
• Stairs will stay in tact but improve park accessibility
• Basketball courts adjacent to play areas would make more sense
• Better site distance to turn onto Forrestal
• ADA — Restroom has to be within 200 feet of play area???
• Geological impact — move as little dirt as possible
• Plan B Safety Issue - cars making 360 at Forrestal & Pirate
• ADA pedestrian access — will there be parking on Forrestal designated as Handicap?
• Will they be closing the ADA access at night? Overall security for the park when the
building is at the back of the site. Who locks restroom at night? Secured perimeter?
• Parking — Not enough for events (Easter Egg hunt, movie nights, etc.) Hess Park has
110 parking spaces. Need to include parking on Forrestal in the Plan.
• Discovery room: planned field trips — where will buses park?
• City should open gates on Forrestal for special events & buses
• Opportunity to move gate to allow better parking on Forrestal
• Butterfly Garden should not be a priority. Is it caged? No.
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Public Workshop
• Parking — move gate up Forrestal with steps going up to access that area
• Building orientation is not taking advantage of views
• Lights on parking and walking paths — can be programmed to turn off at a set time
• Are costs similar? Cost projection will be done on final concept.
• Cost out renovating buildings? Did not receive request from Council to do so.
• Is there a cap? No.
• Building is too big and too much is being spent on amenities not needed.
• Building layout needs to be changed so that there are no alcoves for people to hide
from security/patrol
• Butterfly garden a waste of space — replace with picnic tables with large paved area
• Do not want large groups convening here
• 1 like butterfly gardens — native plants that attract butterflies with bench to enjoy
peacefulness and be able to sit & read or chat with a friend
• Security — Will the entire park be locked down? Is there a curfew? Security cameras?
• Mediterranea HOA - likes parking options and appreciates LL issues with AYSO. But
we feel there are a lot of people that have compromised desires for pool, gyms, etc.
Need usable community space (cub scouts) for ALL HOA's to use
• Seaview HOA — don't do anything at all! Construction for a year is not needed. Nobody
uses this facility.
• Scale of interior to building compared to current — classrooms
• Great improvement! Really listened to what we said we wanted.
• Like Plan A — due to entrance; not maximizing traffic at Pirate; building location better;
less driveway eating up spaces
• Keep access to upper LL fields
• Will port -a -potty remain for accessible from both sides of park? No.
• Plan B — may increase traffic onto Pirate and parking in Pirate neighborhood
• Great job! Up -scaling building and park is needed. Agree with Concept A
• Extend comment period by a week? Make it 2 weeks from today 5/10
• Concerns of -view from building. Would like to see coastline from inside of building or
put in more windows on ocean side.
• Plan B — is building at higher elevation? Yes but no windows facing ocean.
• Consolidating play equipment nice but basketball court near so it's not spread out.
• Appreciate that RFA heard us and got a good consensus of community. Doesn't make
sense to move basketball courts. Parking!!!!
• Too many corners on building — save money by straightening walls.
• Rotate building on Concept A by 90 degrees
• Wouldn't mind views of ocean but don't want to look into lower neighborhood and
respect privacy of homes. Hence meandering sidewalk is pushed back near equipment
• Add address on comment cards to put weight on comments from residents.
• Mayor Campbell - include neighborhood on comment cards
• Would like high resolution online
• Butterfly garden — plants that will draw in butterflies. Programatic — kids can help plant.
Can be formalized as well
• Acoustics of basketball courts to Seaview at current Plan A/B location. Maybe only do
one court. Not currently a lot of noise. No cheering just hear ball bouncing.
• Will multipurpose room still be available to groups that currently use it? Yes.
• Possible to put large soil berm south of basketball court to block noise?
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Date Prepared: 4/26/2017
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Introductions:
• Cory Linder: Director
• Dan Trautner: Deputy Director
• Matt Waters: Senior Administrative Analyst
• Mona Dill: Recreation Program Supervisor
• Nancie Silver: Recreation Program Supervisor
• Mary Hirsch: Admin Staff Assistant
• Ron Dragoo: Principal Engineer
• Richard Fisher: Principal & Project Manager
• Jim Collison: Associate/Senior Designer
• Randy Meyer: Architect, Meyer & Associates
• Taylor Smith: Executive Assistant
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From: Danielle <danielle.thom@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:58 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: In favor of park
Hello
My name is Danielle Thom and I am a resident of Rancho Palos Verdes and am in support of the City's plan to redevelop
Ladera Linda park with new equipment and trails!
Thank you so much for the consideration to families with kids that enjoy heading to the park with the kids but would
really love to enjoy more of the views and a safe waking area
Thank you
Danielle Thom
26 Avenida de Azalea RPV
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Matt Waters
From: Susan Wilcox <swilcox@pvplc.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:46 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda - Master Plan
Hi Matt,
I think the two plans look really good. I like the way the landscaping has been taken into consideration and that
there are setbacks so that our neighbors in Seaview won't feel overlooked or invaded. Really nicely done.
I'm one of the proponents to have the building provide something NEW that it doesn't yet do.
With that in mind, the two smaller rooms would be ideal to use regularly for (1) a day-care nursery on one side,
and (2) for a senior drop-off center on the other side. Our community is starting to really need both services,
and there are many residents who are overwhelmed with a spouse with Alzheimer's and don't have the resources
to provide daily, in-home care but need some relief. This kind of service, though, would likely need to have a
larger number of handicapped restrooms in order to accommodate a group of 20 or so seniors, most of whom
would be in wheelchairs. I don't know if there's still any way to take this into consideration, but I think it would
provide a much-needed benefit, stay within the guidelines of SUPER QUIET and community -service (people
are not going to come 20 miles for this type of thing), so it seems worth re-iterrating. I also think the nursery
day-care center would benefit from smaller -scale restrooms.
In case you are able to take into consideration, I wanted to share the ideas with you directly.
Susan Wilcox
3670 Vigilance Drive
D2
Matt Waters
From:
Minas Yerelian <yerelian@gmail.com>
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:54 AM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
Ladera Linda
Good presentation
KEEP RURAL SEMI RURAL ATMOSPHERE. Be mindful of keeping all parks RURAL
1- Noise effect on the neighbors.
2- Basket court and all sport activity must be moved to the rt side away from the residential area closer to forestall and
move the building to the left to make sure of no noise impact.
3- Plan B is better use of real estate (Wilson park).
4- (Trees) replace all trees and more.
5 -Minimum lightning.
6- The lowest maintenance possible ( less $) NATURAL (let the grass and wild plants grow and die seasonally that is
RURAL.
Good job.
Thank you
Minas Yerelian
Sent from my iPad
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Matt Waters
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:15 AM
To: Matt Waters; Doug Willmore; Michael Throne; Cory Linder; Ara Mihranian
Cc: CC
Subject: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
April 30, 2017
MEMO
FROM: SUNSHINE, the Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project Archivist
TO: Matt Waters, Analyst, RPV City Manager, Director of Public Works, Director of
Rec. & Parks, Director of Community Development
RE: How the Ladera Linda Community Center/Park is not an island
Ladera Linda Park is both a destination and a trail head. It is also a
"pit stop" along the Palos Verdes Loop Trail. As such, the changes in the infrastructure should accommodate
all three types of visitors.
In RPV's currently adopted TRAILS NETWORK PLAN (TNP) (1984), implementation programs are listed
along with assignment of "Responsible Parties". (Pages 49 and 50.) The Leisure Services Dept. (now called
the Recreation and Parks Dept.) was given the task of drafting an update of the TNP. City Council approved
"Phase One" in 1990 which did not include an update of the Implementation Programs/Responsible Parties list.
It is still the responsibility of the Public Works Dept. to supply and maintain "sufficient support facilities". It is
still the responsibility of the City Manager to incorporate the appropriate funding in the City's Budget.
Both of the Ladera Linda Concepts as currently presented do not provide a clearly designated "trail head"
facility. I am envisioning a "comfort station" a lot like the one which is in between the parking lot at the end of
La Rotunda Drive and the trail across the Trump Golf Course to the California Coastal Trail.
As a Facilities Designer, my suggestion for a CONCEPT C is the two parking lot version of CONCEPT A with
the entrance aligned at Pirate Drive as shown in CONCEPT B. Keep the storage facility per Concept A and
make the storage facility in Concept B the trail head "comfort station".
The Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project's Mission is to preserve and enhance a 26 mile off-road and unpaved
pathway around the Palos Verdes Peninsula and the Peninsula Wheel Trails Network which connects
destinations by large and small loops for as many different trail users as is feasible. Consider the trail
connection from Forrestal Drive to the "comfort station" at Ladera Linda Park. Given that the Palos Verdes
Loop Trail is TYPE 1 along Forrestal Drive and is TYPE 4 up to the "quarry bowl", some Lawyer gets to
decide which "TYPE" the connecting trail should be.
Other than the site specific comments, all of the above should be considered in conjunction with any
improvement plans for any of the other parks which are trail accessible.
M
Matt Waters
From: Madeline Ryan <pvpasofino@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 9:47 AM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
Hello Matt
As an equestrian who has enjoyed riding and hiking in Forrestal over the years, I
have the following requests:
A parking area that would accommodate horse trailers for the loading and unloading of
horses.
Shaded picnic tables, some that could accommodate a wheel chair would be nice.
Trash receptacles.
A tie rail for horses in the parking lot area, but not too close to picnic tables.
A water trough/fountain for horses, dogs and hikers.
Access to restrooms.
Signs that would say, "Pick up after your dog/horse"
A bike rack.
At present, to trailer horses into Forrestal, one must make arrangements with the City of
RPV so that an employee will have the gate unlocked on a specific date and at a specific
time. That has worked in the past, but not without glitches, so what would work better
is if the trailer could pull into a second parking area north of the Ladera Linda
Center, unload and ride from there; eliminating the need to make special arrangements,
be out of the way of other trail users and unload on dirt/decomposed granite instead of
asphalt.
The improved area would also be inviting to the equestrians who ride in from Portuguese
Bend and Rolling Hills.
Thank you for considering equestrians needs and reminding the populace that
equestrians were a part of the development of RPV, RH and RHE and their presence
remain today with the CC's designation of 'Q' Districts, of which there are four in RPV.
Appreciatively,
Madeline Ryan
28328 Palos Verdes Drive East
RPV (Q District)
"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
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Matt Waters
From: Benoit Hochedez <hochedez@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 10:35 AM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Master Plan
Hi Matt,
First things first, thank you for all the hard work you guys have put into this project. It's very much appreciated.
I attended the workshop last week and I think overall your team and the architects have done a good job. As a
matter of fact, we went from a relatively large number of neighbors wanting no change at all to only 2-3 of them
with that opinion after the 2 options were presented (note, we were always in favor of a complete redo).
Here are my wife and I comments (note that we have a 5yo kid, and in Mediterrania so this will be our go -to
park for years to come) :
• we like plan A, mostly because it seems to offer more usable space of the park grounds. Moreover I
understand and agree with the concerns of the LL residents who don't want the park entrance in front of
Pirate Drive
• Parking : I think the 30-40 spots along Forrestal that were mentioned during the workshop should be
included in the scope of the current project. My main concern here is that hikers and AYSO users will
park at the LL park making the parking situation an issue all over again.
• Staircase from LL park to lower soccer field : it should be eliminated (in Plan A) to alleviate the
potential issue of the LL park parking lot being used for hours at time by soccer fields users.
• Basket ball courts : I do think both basketball courts should be build next to the playground area so that
kids around 8-12 can play there while their younger siblings play on the playgrounds. I like the idea of
having a half court and a full court.
• Kids Playground : make sure it's extensive enough (with interesting equipment) to be "competitive"
with what San Pedro has done at the Bogdanovich rec center. People are mostly moving and buying
houses in PV to raise their kids here. A nice playground is a HUGE asset.
• Shaded area around the park, especially next to the playground
• Building : I'm okay with the size, and think it should at the very least be visually appealing,
architecturally speaking. Moreover, as discussed during the workshop, I do agree we should try to
maximize the ocean views from the multi purpose room of the building. If turning the building 90
degrees counter clockwise is not an option, I'd agree that maybe it can be redesigned so try to create at
least a large view room.
I hope we can get the ball moving on the park ASAP.
Thank you,
Benoit Hochedez
3505 Coolheights Dr
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
Matt Waters
From: Charles Agnew <cvagnew@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:44 PM
To: Matt Waters
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; Brian Campbell;
Jerry Duhovic@hotmail.com; Ken Dyda; Anthony Misetich
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
LA LA
LADERA LINDA PARK MASTER PLAN
PUBLIC WORKSHOP
April 26, 2017
COMMENT CARD
Please write down and submit your comments regarding the proposed
Ladera Linda Park designs.
If you wish more time for submitting comments this evening, please
indicate your thoughts and forward them to the City prior to the end of the
day on May 511. You may also share this opportunity with your neighbors
who were not able to attend this evening's meeting.
Comments can be sent by email to Mattw r vca. ov
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Thank you for the work you have done. It's starting to come together
My name is Charles Agnew. I live at 32261 Phantom Dr. I am a 46 year resident of Ladera Linda.
Plan - My choice between the two plans is plan A because:
• Minimizes confusion at Pirate and takes the traffic away from our neighborhood.
• Less park space taken up by concrete roadway.
• Allows parking at paddle tennis courts and has a better location for Community Center
Building.
Parking
• Include Parking along Forrestal in plan.
• Move gate up Forrestal beyond the parking.
• Provide right angle parking along Forrestal.
• Provide stairway from parking down to park.
• Parking is for access to trails and for major events at the Park when onsite parking is not
enough.
Security
• Have security cameras that record most of the park area.
• Have signs that point out the use of security camera.
• Consider not having the park gated.
o Gates don't look good.
o Who is going to lock up every night?
o Is the park empty when you lock up?
Views & Building
• Rotate building 90 degrees and have plenty of windows to capture the view (the storage for
tables/chairs needs to be elsewhere).
• Don't move building next to Seaview bluff area where people can look into back yards.
• Increase the size of the multipurpose room to be at least at big as the existing multipurpose
room.
• Kitchen. The staging area looks very small. There should be at least two sinks, at least two
stove for warming, multiple tables for food, etc.
• What happened to a Sheriff drop by room?
• This is the neighborhood emergency preparedness center. What facilities are required for such
a purpose?
Basketball Courts
• Consider moving them to lower the lower field where they are now.
• This provides access to jungle gyms where brothers and sisters are playing.
• Reduces the noise to Seaview residents.
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• You can reduce the soccer area.
Benches
• Be sure to provide benches near Jungle gyms for parents to sit.
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 11:21 AM
To:
SunshineRPV@aol.com
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
contact info
Hi Sunshine,
Just left you a vm, but here's my contact information if your friends and neighbors want to contact me regarding the
Ladera Linda Park Master Plan.
By email: mattw@rpvca.gov
By phone: 310-544-5218
In Person: Best to call or email me to arrange for a time -happy to meet with anyone and I have blow-ups of the park
design proposals.
Website: Go to http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan to see the park design proposal, building
configuration and other documents.
You can also go the City's main webpage then go to City Departments> Recreation and Parks>Park Projects>Ladera Linda
Park Master Plan.
Hope this is helpful.
Please remember that all comments must be received by May 10!
Thanks,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw .rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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Matt Waters
From: Cory Linder
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:20 AM
To: Matt Waters; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; Nancie Silver; Katie Lozano; Mary Hirsch
Subject: FW: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
FYI
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:15 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>; Michael Throne
<MichaelT@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
April 30, 2017
MEMO
FROM: SUNSHINE, the Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project Archivist
TO: Matt Waters, Analyst, RPV City Manager, Director of Public Works, Director of
Rec. & Parks, Director of Community Development
RE: How the Ladera Linda Community Center/Park is not an island
Ladera Linda Park is both a destination and a trail head. It is also a
"pit stop" along the Palos Verdes Loop Trail. As such, the changes in the infrastructure should accommodate
all three types of visitors.
In RPV's currently adopted TRAILS NETWORK PLAN (TNP) (1984), implementation programs are listed
along with assignment of "Responsible Parties". (Pages 49 and 50.) The Leisure Services Dept. (now called
the Recreation and Parks Dept.) was given the task of drafting an update of the TNP. City Council approved
"Phase One" in 1990 which did not include an update of the Implementation Programs/Responsible Parties
list. It is still the responsibility of the Public Works Dept. to supply and maintain "sufficient support
facilities". It is still the responsibility of the City Manager to incorporate the appropriate funding in the City's
Budget.
Both of the Ladera Linda Concepts as currently presented do not provide a clearly designated "trail head"
facility. I am envisioning a "comfort station" a lot like the one which is in between the parking lot at the end of
La Rotunda Drive and the trail across the Trump Golf Course to the California Coastal Trail.
As a Facilities Designer, my suggestion for a CONCEPT C is the two parking lot version of CONCEPT A with
the entrance aligned at Pirate Drive as shown in CONCEPT B. Keep the storage facility per Concept A and
make the storage facility in Concept B the trail head "comfort station".
The Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project's Mission is to preserve and enhance a 26 mile off-road and unpaved
pathway around the Palos Verdes Peninsula and the Peninsula Wheel Trails Network which connects
destinations by large and small loops for as many different trail users as is feasible. Consider the trail
connection from Forrestal Drive to the "comfort station" at Ladera Linda Park. Given that the Palos Verdes
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Loop Trail is TYPE 1 along Forrestal Drive and is TYPE 4 up to the "quarry bowl", some Lawyer gets to
decide which "TYPE" the connecting trail should be.
Other than the site specific comments, all of the above should be considered in conjunction with any
improvement plans for any of the other parks which are trail accessible.
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Matt Waters
From:
Erika Barber <nbarber310@cox.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
To:
Matt Waters
Cc:
Duhovic, Jerry
Subject:
Good job
Hi and kudos to all the city staff who made the LL Master Plan presentation tonight. I live at 4004 Stalwart in the Seaview
area. My 2 children went to Ladera Linda through their elementary education. It was such a wonderful little school. Now
I take my grandchildren to the playgrounds and they love it but it is definitely time for some "over hauling" of the
premises.
I actually like both plans but my big concern is the parking. It was mentioned that the gate on Forrestal beyond the
present entrance should be opened for special events so people could park there. I agree with that. I would hate to live
on Pirate and have people park in front of my house constantly.
I am on the Board of our Seaview Residents Association and our Emergency Preparedness chairmen are looking for a
place to put a fairly large container for emergency supplies for our neighborhood.
'Is there a possibility for something like that in the upper triangular storage area?
I know this meeting was about the LL master plan but don't the "contaminated" soccer fields fall under Ladera Linda as
well? I'm actually glad it was not brought up as it would have opened a new "can of worms" but can you tell me what is
happening with that?
Anyway .... good and productive meeting but there is a lot more work to be done. I certainly appreciate all the time city
staff put into this. Thank you.
Jerry .... good to see you and congratulations on becoming mayor.
Erika Barber
4004 Stalwart Drive
RPV
310-377-7291
Nbarber310@cox.net
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Matt Waters
From: jessica <jessboop@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Matt Waters; CC
Subject: Ladera Linda
I'm sort of coming in late on this, however, I'm wondering who the City is doing this for; the neighbors, the public???
Since Terrenea and the Trump Development have moved into the neighborhood, and, more housing, we who live here
have had definitely more traffic, more break-ins, more traffic accidents, more vandalism..and more trash. Palos Verdes
used to be open space land with a small number of housing communities, and beautiful. One could see over the land
forever to the ocean, Catalina, and scrub and wildflowers.
There was wildlife, there was very little traffic.
So, I ask, who is this Ladera Linda Development for????
If you must have some form of Recreational Development, then I suppose, it should be small! Who will manager this
facility? Who will care for the grounds, etc. Who will care for the security of this park and the neighbors and the
neighborhoods that adjoin the park? Who is paying for this? Who will monitor this area. Are there lights that will bother
the neighborhood (our beautiful stars at night that we can no longer see due to development!)? Will there be security
guards? Who will manage the flow of traffic into and out of these streets.
One very important point: Palos Verdes Drive South is the only main one lane in each direction artery into and out of this
now much more crowded area. Emergency vehicles have to push to the side (where are the sides?) any vehicles,
bicycles, etc. to get in and around for an emergency, slowing down their travel!. Traffic in and out of communities is
already difficult. People get lost, do not know where they are going and make u turns at entrances to communities,
thereby causing backups and sometimes accidents. Who will monitor the traffic safety??? We are already
stretch ed..there is no room for road expansion, yet we seem to be encouraging more growth!!!
I suppose you will do what you must, however, why don't you just maintain what is at Ladera Linda (which I understand
is in need) and build your Recreational site at City Hall!!!!!
Discouraged,
Jessica Meyer
PBC
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Matt Waters
From:
SW J <swjaquez@gmail.com>
Sent:
Monday, May 01, 2017 10:52 AM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
Ladera Linda Master Plan Comment
Dear Mr. Waters,
After attending the latest Ladera Linda Master Plan Workshop on April 26th and viewing both concept designs,
I believe Concept A better maximize the use of the property while taking into consideration the various
community comments to date. I do, however, have a few comments/changes to Concept A that I feel would
better enhance the use of the property. These are:
1. Ensure Existing Privacy Of Seaview Homes. I live in the Seaview Community in a home directly below
the Ladera Linda Park. As such, maintaining our existing privacy is crucial and we want to ensure that
the design creates a wide and high enough landscape buffer along the Park's property line so that
individuals enjoying the Park are not provided an easy opportunity to look down into our backyard and
bedrooms.
2. Move Basketball Courts Closer to Play Areas. As a number of community members mentioned at the
Workshop, moving the basketball courts closer to the Play Areas will allow parents/guardians to better
watch both younger and older children at play. There is plenty of open green space surrounding the Play
Areas in Concept A to relocate the basketball courts. Indeed, the basketball courts might sit nicely at the
Southeastern point of the park (so long as both the courts and Play Areas are within eyesight of each
other). The current design location of the basketball courts in Concept A could then be used for a
peaceful and shaded sitting area. Possibly even with a small water feature? This could be conducive to
attracting butterflies to the nearby proposed Butterfly Garden.
3. Remove or Restrict Access To AYSO Fields To Conserve Limited Parking. Given the limited
parking, we should remove or restrict direct access to the nearby AYSO fields (i.e., via the two existing
staircases). Direct access will only encourage visitors to the AYSO fields to park in the limited spaces
leaving those who have come to enjoy the park with little to no parking. If AYSO (or hikers for the
nearby trails) need additional parking, the City should consider adding designated parking at the top of
Forrestal Drive.
Thank you for your consideration and a big "Thank You" to all at the City and the design team for helping
revive our local community park.
Best,
Sean Jaquez
32214 Valor Place
Matt Waters
From: Melody Colbert <melcolbert@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Matt Waters; Matt Waters
Cc: cmoneil@aol.com
Subject: Ladera Linda Master Plan
Attachments: Lad Linda PVPHA.pdf
Please see attached Comment from Palos Verdes Peninsula Horsemen's Association.
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Matt Waters
From:
Chris Lyndquist <clyndl2@gmail.com>
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:07 PM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
Ladera Linda Park comments
Hello Matt,
I apologize for not being able to attend the planning meeting regarding Ladera Linda. I would like to express a
strong interest on behalf of not only myself, but on my many friends and fellow parents from the LL area in
building a quality, modern, FUN playground on the site. I believe a new playground is not only desperately
needed at LL, but is also part of the plan. I really hope whoever is in charge of deciding on the play structures
to be put in to take a look at some of the more popular parks in the area before purchasing equipment. Take a
look at the new park going up at Ernie Howlett. It is exactly what we need at LL. It is modern/exciting/high-
end looking, and has tons of play value. It is a park with play structures that will be useful for not only 3-5 year
olds (think:Ryan Park or Hesse Park) but for kids up to tweens to have fun and get exercise on. Another local
park that is popular with a larger age range of kids is Rocketship park. The kids love the new tightline
equipment and the very large merry-go-round that can actually spin!! (think: Hesse park's sad, broken spinner -
for -one.)
There are some great options out there to build playgrounds that appeal to kids of all ages. Please don't build
another typical RPV park with equipment that is essentially stairs leading to a bridge that leads to a
slide. Boring!!!!!
Thanks for your time,
Chris Lyndquist
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Matt Waters
From: City of Rancho Palos Verdes <listsery@civicplus.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:44 AM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Webpage Update
View this in your browser
Click here to go to the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Webpage, to access the 2 proposed draft park
designs, and the proposed building layout. You can also view the PowerPoint and related documents from
April 26th's Workshop.
For more information contact Matt Waters at mattw(@_rpvca.gov or 310.544.5218
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From: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:46 PM
To: Matt Waters
Cc: Jerry Duhovic <CouncilmanDuhovic@hotmail.com>; Brian Campbell (Gmail); Ann
Weinland; Bill Gussman; Gene Dewey; Georgette Jenkins:; Judy Youssef:; Kate Nash;
Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Terri Shary ; Tom Karen Smith
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Thanks Matt, Corry and P & R Staff !
Most people I talked to after the meeting were as pleased as I am about the concepts you presented for the Ladera
Linda Park.
I have a couple of comments:
The upper playground next to the paddle tennis courts gets plenty of use. It is fairly new, ADA compliant, I am sure it
would cost in excess of $ 500 K to replace it.
The Basketball courts need to stay where they are so families can watch children of all ages at the same time. The court
does not get a lot of use now. The space west of the paddle tennis courts could be space for a volley ball court, double
as a bocce ball court or accommodate some old fashion horseshoes pits.
I prefer concept A as it minimizes the disturbance with respect to access and keeps the low key profile.
The lower playground area and basketball court need rest rooms closer to that area. Often grandparents are watching
their grandchildren and that would be a long walk for them or a child in distress.
Parking on Forrestal should be considered as part of the project. Not only to handle large occasional events at the park,
but somewhere for people who are walking the trails in the preserve to park on the weekends .
Finally a security camera in the area would be a great addition.
Thanks again for taking a course of action that will please most in our community of Ladera Linda.
Gene Dewey
Vigilance Dr, RPV
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Matt Waters
From: Sharon Gross <sharongross@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:26 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda Park
We have viewed the plans for the park and definitely prefer Plan B. We'd like to see more play area space for families with
children, with equipment like swings, slides, climbing equipment, etc. as well as tables with benches for picnics. These
may already be included, but are not shown on the plan. It looks like a great plan!
Sharon & Morrie Gross
31059 Hawksmoor Dr.
RPV
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Madeline Ryan; Ara Mihranian
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: A coupla things....
Hi Madeline,
Thank you for your email regarding the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. While the emphasis of the design work so far has
been on design work for a new community center and for the surrounding parkland, the City does want to hear and
consider the concerns from Forrestal Reserve visitors including the EQ community. Your comments will be considered
by the project team and consultant during the creation of a recommended design option for Council's
consideration. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any
additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Madeline Ryan [ma iIto: pvpasofino@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:05 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Subject: A coupla things....
Hello Ara and Matt
Ara, just wondering if there has been any discussion re Martingale Trail's rehabilitation.
And, pardon my ignorance, Ara and Matt, but I did not know that the Ladera Linda
restoration would be so extensive as to offer opportunities to trail users and I didn't pay
attention early on (shame on me!); thus, so many of us equestrians coming in late.
I sincerely hope it won't be too late to incorporate equestrian/bike amenities and keep
the 'openness' of the northern area, where soccer fields are, for some of that. Just
another opportunity to expand equestrian and biking recreation in this area.
Thank you,
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"May the Trails be with you..." Madeline
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 11:12 AM
To:
Benoit Hochedez
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Comments on Ladera Linda Master Plan
Hi Benoit,
Thank you for attending last week's Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Wokshop and for your kind words -much
appreciated. Thanks also for offering your comments on a range of subjects including your preference for Concept A,
parking/Forrestal concerns, building views, shade structures, basketball court/playground issues, and the staircase to
the upper soccer fields. Your opinions will be considered by our design team and consultant as we put together a final
recommended option for Council's consideration. Your email will be attached to that final report.
Please let me know if you have any additional comments, questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cbrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Beit"er.
From: Benoit Hochedez [mailto:hochedez@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 10:35 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Master Plan
Hi Matt,
First things first, thank you for all the hard work you guys have put into this project. It's very much appreciated.
I attended the workshop last week and I think overall your team and the architects have done a good job. As a
matter of fact, we went from a relatively large number of neighbors wanting no change at all to only 2-3 of them
with that opinion after the 2 options were presented (note, we were always in favor of a complete redo).
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Here are my wife and I comments (note that we have a 5yo kid, and in Mediterrania so this will be our go -to
park for years to come) :
• we like plan A, mostly because it seems to offer more usable space of the park grounds. Moreover I
understand and agree with the concerns of the LL residents who don't want the park entrance in front of
Pirate Drive
• Parking : I think the 30-40 spots along Forrestal that were mentioned during the workshop should be
included in the scope of the current project. My main concern here is that hikers and AYSO users will
park at the LL park making the parking situation an issue all over again.
• Staircase from LL park to lower soccer field : it should be eliminated (in Plan A) to alleviate the
potential issue of the LL park parking lot being used for hours at time by soccer fields users.
• Basket ball courts : I do think both basketball courts should be build next to the playground area so that
kids around 8-12 can play there while their younger siblings play on the playgrounds. I like the idea of
having a half court and a full court.
• Kids Playground : make sure it's extensive enough (with interesting equipment) to be "competitive"
with what San Pedro has done at the Bogdanovich rec center. People are mostly moving and buying
houses in PV to raise their kids here. A nice playground is a HUGE asset.
• Shaded area around the park, especially next to the playground
• Building : I'm okay with the size, and think it should at the very least be visually appealing,
architecturally speaking. Moreover, as discussed during the workshop, I do agree we should try to
maximize the ocean views from the multi purpose room of the building. If turning the building 90
degrees counter clockwise is not an option, I'd agree that maybe it can be redesigned so try to create at
least a large view room.
I hope we can get the ball moving on the park ASAP.
Thank you,
Benoit Hochedez
3505 Coolheights Dr
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 5:11 PM
To:
cicoriae@aol.com
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Eva,
Thanks for your email and for your comments about the plans. The storage building was described as the size of a 3 -car
garage to convey its general size, but it's not intended to house vehicles. It's supposed to take the place of the various
storage containers that are scattered around Ladera Linda. The emergency confusion may lie in the fact that one of the
containers currently stores City emergency supplies. The other containers are Public Works supplies I believe. One
container holds an Open Space Management Polaris I believe but that will likely be shifted over to City Hall at some
point.
Your other comments and concerns about Forrestal parking and Reserve access, views, hardscape square footage,
outdoor seating and your preference for Proposal B will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a
recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(a,Kpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: cicoriae@aol.com [mailto:cicoriae@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:40 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Matt,
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Generally, the plans look pretty good.
My biggest concern with both plans is what is the purpose of the large storage building. At the meeting April 26, the
storage building was described as "the size of a 3 -car garage". A member of the public asked about emergency service
vehicles and was told that this building would be used for that. What type of vehicles? Why isn't the building described as
a garage if it is going to garage vehicles? At a City Council meeting to discuss vehicular access across Klondike Canyon
in Forrestal Reserve, staff was asked if the City planned to garage their Polaris at Ladera Linda and Doug Wilmore said
that's not in the plans. Did he just mean the plans don't show it or it's not the intent/desire of staff? Let's be fully
transparent, please.
A related concern is that the City staff may have their eye on Forrestal being the new gateway to the PV Nature Preserve
without disclosing that to the public. Residents have a right to know and staff has a responsibility to residents to be fully
transparent --I know you agree. The Ladera Linda Park planning process is the time for staff to express their interests in
that sort of transition and for the residents to express their support and/or concerns. I agree with members of the public
who, at the April meeting, expressed an interest in having the parking along Forrestal Drive included in this project, so that
issues related to that can be vetted concurrently with the park proper.
I prefer the location of the Community Center in Plan B over Plan A, elevated somewhat over the other park facilities and
affording a more open feel to the park. It would be nice to incorporate views into the building design, particularly from the
multi-purpose and/or discovery rooms. The multi-purpose room should be no smaller than it is currently and possibly a bit
larger.
It would be nice for the outdoor seating areas along the southwest edge of the park to afford coastline views, since people
enjoy the sunset views from this area. It's not clear to me from the design plans whether that is the intent.
It would also be nice to have some information on how sound will carry either upslope into the Preserve or downslope to
homes for the noisier elements of the park plan when it comes before City Council and the public.
Last, I would be interested to know which plan has more hardscape, including asphalt. It appears to me that Plan A does,
but I can't be sure. Can you provide square footage for the various features --parking, driveways, turf area, etc.?
Eva Cicoria
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:33 AM
To: Charles Agnew
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; Brian Campbell;
Jerry Duhovic@hotmail.com; Ken Dyda; Anthony Misetich
Subject: RE: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Charles,
Thanks for continuing to be a part of this process and thanks for the kind words. Your comments about a number of
issues and concerns including your preference for proposal A, parking, security, views, basketball court location, and
building amenities have all been noted and will be considered by the design team as we put together a recommended
design for Council consideration. Your comment card will be included as part of that report.
You also asked about the Sheriff drop-in office and Emergency Prep Center. The building diagram does include office
space just to the right of the main entrance which is intended for Sheriff/Open Space Management drop-in
use. Emergency Prep requires a large room for providing temporary shelter in case of an emergency and a small room
for administrative and medical purposes. The Multi-purpose room and one of the classrooms in the proposed diagram
would serve that purpose. The bulk supplies would be brought in by the Red Cross. Some limited emergency supplies
are currently stored on site in a storage container. That storage need could either be accommodated in the proposed
separate storage building or possibly in a designated storage area inside the main building.
Thanks again for your comments and please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:44 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Daniel Trautner <DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>;
susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; Brian Campbell <briancampbell@gmail.com>; Jerry Duhovic@hotmail.com
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LADERA LINDA PARK MASTER PLAN
PUBLIC WORKSHOP
April 26, 2017
COMMENT CARD
Please write down and submit your comments regarding the proposed
Ladera Linda Park designs.
If you wish more time for submitting comments this evening, please
indicate your thoughts and forward them to the City prior to the end of the
day on May 5th. You may also share this opportunity with your neighbors
who were not able to attend this evening's meeting.
Comments can be sent by email to Mattw@rpvca.gov
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
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From: cicoriae@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:43 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Re: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Thanks for the info, Matt.
Eva
-----Original Message -----
From: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
To: cicoriae <cicoriae@aol.com>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Sent: Wed, May 10, 2017 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Eva,
Thanks for your email and for your comments about the plans. The storage building was described as the size of a 3 -car
garage to convey its general size, but it's not intended to house vehicles. It's supposed to take the place of the various
storage containers that are scattered around Ladera Linda. The emergency confusion may lie in the fact that one of the
containers currently stores City emergency supplies. The other containers are Public Works supplies I believe. One
container holds an Open Space Management Polaris I believe but that will likely be shifted over to City Hall at some
point.
Your other comments and concerns about Forrestal parking and Reserve access, views, hardscape square footage,
outdoor seating and your preference for Proposal B will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a
recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: cicoriae@aol.com [mailto:cicoriae@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:40 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
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Hi Matt,
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Generally, the plans look pretty good.
My biggest concern with both plans is what is the purpose of the large storage building. At the meeting April 26, the
storage building was described as "the size of a 3 -car garage". A member of the public asked about emergency service
vehicles and was told that this building would be used for that. What type of vehicles? Why isn't the building described as
a garage if it is going to garage vehicles? At a City Council meeting to discuss vehicular access across Klondike Canyon
in Forrestal Reserve, staff was asked if the City planned to garage their Polaris at Ladera Linda and Doug Wilmore said
that's not in the plans. Did he just mean the plans don't show it or it's not the intent/desire of staff? Let's be fully
transparent, please.
A related concern is that the City staff may have their eye on Forrestal being the new gateway to the PV Nature Preserve
without disclosing that to the public. Residents have a right to know and staff has a responsibility to residents to be fully
transparent --I know you agree. The Ladera Linda Park planning process is the time for staff to express their interests in
that sort of transition and for the residents to express their support and/or concerns. I agree with members of the public
who, at the April meeting, expressed an interest in having the parking along Forrestal Drive included in this project, so that
issues related to that can be vetted concurrently with the park proper.
I prefer the location of the Community Center in Plan B over Plan A, elevated somewhat over the other park facilities and
affording a more open feel to the park. It would be nice to incorporate views into the building design, particularly from the
multi-purpose and/or discovery rooms. The multi-purpose room should be no smaller than it is currently and possibly a bit
larger.
It would be nice for the outdoor seating areas along the southwest edge of the park to afford coastline views, since people
enjoy the sunset views from this area. It's not clear to me from the design plans whether that is the intent.
It would also be nice to have some information on how sound will carry either upslope into the Preserve or downslope to
homes for the noisier elements of the park plan when it comes before City Council and the public.
Last, I would be interested to know which plan has more hardscape, including asphalt. It appears to me that Plan A does,
but I can't be sure. Can you provide square footage for the various features --parking, driveways, turf area, etc.?
Eva Cicoria
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:19 PM
To:
Ela
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Feedback
Dear E.T. Heyn,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns will all
be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your
email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and
concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Ela [mailto:elhe@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 3:41 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Feedback
It came back, I did not notice the mistake in the address given and clicked on it...."
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Ela <elhe(a,cox.net>
Date: May 4, 2017 at 6:10:34 PM PDT
To: mattw(krovca.gov
Subject: Feedback
Hi,
Yes , I attended the last workshop. I am happy to see the progress. I like to see what you want to
do for children and of course adults. PLan A appeals to me more than the other. I also see value
in the idea a lady at the end of the workshop expressed: move the building into the upper left
corner, that would be south-west by my estimate. IF that happens, I would also turn the building
90 degrees counter clockwise, entrance facing north/east .... and eliminate some of the many
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corners!
This way you could move the play area for smaller children, ball courts for the older close
enough together for parents of siblings in different age groups to keep an eye on them.
The butterfly 'garden' could be some what larger, yes with a secure gate. I have no idea what
maintenance would be required, but have seen lovely featured like that before. Maybe a
volunteer group would like to get involved here?!
Thanks for listening and good luck!
E.T. HEyn
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Matt Waters
From: Erika Barber <nbarber310@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:36 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Good job
Hi Matt,
Thank you very much for your response. I will look at the plans when they are more readable and comment further if
needed. I had forgotten the fields are owned by the school district. Erika Barber
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW@rpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:40 PM
To: Erika Barber
Cc: Duhovic, Jerry; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Good job
Dear Ms. Barber,
Thank you for your comments and for attending last night -appreciate the involvement of so many residents like
yourself. Your comments about parking, the use of the Forrestal Gate, and the possibility of an HOA storage container
are all noted and will be discussed as we put together a final recommended plan for Council's consideration.
Regarding the soccer fields, those are not part of the Master Plan discussion since they are owned by the School District,
not the City, and there is no direct access to the fields from Ladera Linda park. We have had discussions with School
District personnel about coordinating their scheduling with activities at the park to minimize impact on nearby residents.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw .rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Parks
Eje'tter7
From: Erika Barber [mailto:nbarber310@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Duhovic, Jerry <jduhovic@hotmail.com>
Subject: Good job
i
Hi and kudos to all the city staff who made the LL Master Plan presentation tonight. I live at 4004 Stalwart in the Seaview
area. My 2 children went to Ladera Linda through their elementary education. It was such a wonderful little school. Now
I take my grandchildren to the playgrounds and they love it but it is definitely time for some "over hauling" of the
premises.
I actually like both plans but my big concern is the parking. It was mentioned that the gate on Forrestal beyond the
present entrance should be opened for special events so people could park there. I agree with that. I would hate to live
on Pirate and have people park in front of my house constantly.
I am on the Board of our Seaview Residents Association and our Emergency Preparedness chairmen are looking for a
place to put a fairly large container for emergency supplies for our neighborhood.
'Is there a possibility for something like that in the upper triangular storage area?
I know this meeting was about the LL master plan but don't the "contaminated" soccer fields fall under Ladera Linda as
well? I'm actually glad it was not brought up as it would have opened a new "can of worms" but can you tell me what is
happening with that?
Anyway .... good and productive meeting but there is a lot more work to be done. I certainly appreciate all the time city
staff put into this. Thank you.
Jerry .... good to see you and congratulations on becoming mayor.
Erika Barber
4004 Stalwart Drive
RPV
310-377-7291
Nbarber310@cox.net
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:40 PM
To:
Erika Barber
Cc:
Duhovic, Jerry; Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Good job
Dear Ms. Barber,
Thank you for your comments and for attending last night -appreciate the involvement of so many residents like
yourself. Your comments about parking, the use of the Forrestal Gate, and the possibility of an HOA storage container
are all noted and will be discussed as we put together a final recommended plan for Council's consideration.
Regarding the soccer fields, those are not part of the Master Plan discussion since they are owned by the School District,
not the City, and there is no direct access to the fields from Ladera Linda park. We have had discussions with School
District personnel about coordinating their scheduling with activities at the park to minimize impact on nearby residents.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cbrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
lett"erj
From: Erika Barber [mailto:nbarber310@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Duhovic, Jerry <jduhovic@hotmail.com>
Subject: Good job
Hi and kudos to all the city staff who made the LL Master Plan presentation tonight. I live at 4004 Stalwart in the Seaview
area. My 2 children went to Ladera Linda through their elementary education. It was such a wonderful little school. Now
I take my grandchildren to the playgrounds and they love it but it is definitely time for some "over hauling" of the
premises.
I actually like both plans but my big concern is the parking. It was mentioned that the gate on Forrestal beyond the
present entrance should be opened for special events so people could park there. I agree with that. I would hate to live
on Pirate and have people park in front of my house constantly.
I am on the Board of our Seaview Residents Association and our Emergency Preparedness chairmen are looking for a
place to put a fairly large container for emergency supplies for our neighborhood.
'Is there a possibility for something like that in the upper triangular storage area?
I know this meeting was about the LL master plan but don't the "contaminated" soccer fields fall under Ladera Linda as
well? I'm actually glad it was not brought up as it would have opened a new "can of worms" but can you tell me what is
happening with that?
Anyway .... good and productive meeting but there is a lot more work to be done. I certainly appreciate all the time city
staff put into this. Thank you.
Jerry .... good to see you and congratulations on becoming mayor.
Erika Barber
4004 Stalwart Drive
RPV
310-377-7291
Nbarber310@cox.net
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 9:52 AM
To:
Erika Barber
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Good job
Hi Erika,
No problem, happy to clarify that point. Please feel free to send me any additional comments or concerns.
Matt
From: Erika Barber [mailto:nbarber310@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:36 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Good job
Hi Matt,
Thank you very much for your response. I will look at the plans when they are more readable and comment further if
needed. I had forgotten the fields are owned by the school district. Erika Barber
From: Matt Waters [mai Ito: MattW(abrpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:40 PM
To: Erika Barber
Cc: Duhovic, Jerry; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Good job
Dear Ms. Barber,
Thank you for your comments and for attending last night -appreciate the involvement of so many residents like
yourself. Your comments about parking, the use of the Forrestal Gate, and the possibility of an HOA storage container
are all noted and will be discussed as we put together a final recommended plan for Council's consideration.
Regarding the soccer fields, those are not part of the Master Plan discussion since they are owned by the School District,
not the City, and there is no direct access to the fields from Ladera Linda park. We have had discussions with School
District personnel about coordinating their scheduling with activities at the park to minimize impact on nearby residents.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rev
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From: Erika Barber [mailto:nbarber310@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:38 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Duhovic, Jerry <iduhovic@hotmail.com>
Subject: Good job
Hi and kudos to all the city staff who made the LL Master Plan presentation tonight. I live at 4004 Stalwart in the Seaview
area. My 2 children went to Ladera Linda through their elementary education. It was such a wonderful little school. Now
I take my grandchildren to the playgrounds and they love it but it is definitely time for some "over hauling" of the
premises.
I actually like both plans but my big concern is the parking. It was mentioned that the gate on Forrestal beyond the
present entrance should be opened for special events so people could park there. I agree with that. I would hate to live
on Pirate and have people park in front of my house constantly.
I am on the Board of our Seaview Residents Association and our Emergency Preparedness chairmen are looking for a
place to put a fairly large container for emergency supplies for our neighborhood.
'Is there a possibility for something like that in the upper triangular storage area?
I know this meeting was about the LL master plan but don't the "contaminated" soccer fields fall under Ladera Linda as
well? I'm actually glad it was not brought up as it would have opened a new "can of worms" but can you tell me what is
happening with that?
Anyway .... good and productive meeting but there is a lot more work to be done. I certainly appreciate all the time city
staff put into this. Thank you.
Jerry .... good to see you and congratulations on becoming mayor.
Erika Barber
4004 Stalwart Drive
RPV
310-377-7291
Nbarber310@cox.net
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:48 AM
To:
Danielle
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: In favor of park
Dear Ms. Thom,
Thank you for your email and for your comments on the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan regarding views, walkways, trails
and new equipment. Your email will be shared with our design team and consultant as we put together a final
recommended design for Council's consideration. Please feel free to contact me with any additional comments or
questions.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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-----Original Message -----
From: Danielle [mailto:danielle.thom@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:58 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: In favor of park
Hello
My name is Danielle Thom and I am a resident of Rancho Palos Verdes and am in support of the City's plan to redevelop
Ladera Linda park with new equipment and trails!
Thank you so much for the consideration to families with kids that enjoy heading to the park with the kids but would
really love to enjoy more of the views and a safe waking area
Thank you
Danielle Thom
26 Avenida de Azalea RPV
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:10 PM
To:
Minas Yerelian
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Minas,
Thanks for coming last night and for being an active participant and thanks for the compliment -glad you thought we did
a good job.
Thanks also for emailing all of your thoughtful comments below about trees, basketball, maintenance, noise, lighting,
and rural atmosphere; I assure you that your comments and concerns will definitely be considered in the formation of a
recommended design for Council's consideration, and your email will be attached to that report. Please let me know if
you have any additional questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Matt
-----Original Message -----
From: Minas Yerelian [mailto:yerelian@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:54 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
Good presentation
KEEP RURAL SEMI RURAL ATMOSPHERE. Be mindful of keeping all parks RURAL
1- Noise effect on the neighbors.
2- Basket court and all sport activity must be moved to the rt side away from the residential area closer to forestall and
move the building to the left to make sure of no noise impact.
3- Plan B is better use of real estate (Wilson park).
4- (Trees) replace all trees and more.
5 -Minimum lightning.
6- The lowest maintenance possible ( less $) NATURAL (let the grass and wild plants grow and die seasonally that is
RURAL.
Good job.
Thank you
Minas Yerelian
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From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Dear Ms. Wilcox,
Matt Waters
Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:05 PM
Susan Wilcox
Matt Waters
RE: Ladera Linda - Master Plan
Thanks you for your interest in the Ladera Linda Master Plan project and for your comments on nursery school and
senior drop-off service elements. Your comments will be considered as we create a final recommended design for City
Council's consideration. Your email will be included as part of that staff report to City Council. Please feel free to
contact me with any additional questions or concerns and again, thank you for being a part of this process.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Susan Wilcox [mailto:swilcox@pvplc.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:46 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda - Master Plan
Hi Matt,
I think the two plans look really good. I like the way the landscaping has been taken into consideration and that
there are setbacks so that our neighbors in Seaview won't feel overlooked or invaded. Really nicely done.
I'm one of the proponents to have the building provide something NEW that it doesn't yet do.
With that in mind, the two smaller rooms would be ideal to use regularly for (1) a day-care nursery on one side,
and (2) for a senior drop-off center on the other side. Our community is starting to really need both services,
and there are many residents who are overwhelmed with a spouse with Alzheimer's and don't have the resources
to provide daily, in-home care but need some relief. This kind of service, though, would likely need to have a
larger number of handicapped restrooms in order to accommodate a group of 20 or so seniors, most of whom
would be in wheelchairs. I don't know if there's still any way to take this into consideration, but I think it would
provide a much-needed benefit, stay within the guidelines of SUPER QUIET and community -service (people
are not going to come 20 miles for this type of thing), so it seems worth re-iterrating. I also think the nursery
day-care center would benefit from smaller -scale restrooms.
In case you are able to take into consideration, I wanted to share the ideas with you directly.
Susan Wilcox
3670 Vigilance Drive
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:43 PM
To: Diane Stewart
Cc: Stephen Stewart; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park
Dear Ms. Stewart,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
traffic, security, crime, trash, and financial implications will all be considered by the project team and consultant during
the creation of a recommended design option for Council's consideration. Your email will also be attached to that
Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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-----Original Message -----
From: Diane Stewart [mailto:direnel@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:12 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Stephen Stewart <sr.stew@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda Park
> On May 10, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Diane Stewart <direnel@aol.com> wrote:
> I strongly object to enlarging the scope of RPV services to enhance the use of the Ladera Linda park. The traffic on the
south side of the hill has become untenable, and now you want to add more cars, pollution, trash, etc. Who will monitor
the park? Who will secure the park EVERY EVENING? Who will pick up the trash on a very regular basis? Who will do all
the things that cost taxpayer's money, when the taxpayers don't want the park turned into a "recreational facility." We
have enough parks in Rancho Palos Verdes now!
Diane Rene Stewart
4164 Maritime Road
Rancho Palos Verdes
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:54 PM
To:
Joe Cruz
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Dear Mr. Cruz,
Thank you for your email and for your interest in this important community project. Your comments and concerns
about favoring Proposal A, views, and trash can locations will I be considered by the Project team as it prepares a
recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Joe Cruz [mailto:jocruzl@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 9:51 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
Hello
I'm an RPV resident living in Seaview. I vote for option A because the playground is offset from the
stairs. Having our steep stairs adjacent to the kids playground would be a huge liability and accident waiting to
happen. I also noticed that both options place trash receptacles on the view side of the park right above the
homes. Why lose the view or risk having Santa Ana winds blow trash onto the homes below? Can't the trash
bin be placed on the other side of the lot against the hillside? It would be better sheltered from the wind and not
block a view.
Thanks,
Joe Cruz
Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:52 PM
To:
Larry Paul
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your comments, suggestions and for being so involved in the process. Your email will be considered by the
project team as we prepare the design for Council's consideration.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Larry Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 4:16 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Matt,
Thank you for considering my comments submitted the day after the last meeting. My wife and I walked the entire
property after the meeting and we are now more convinced than we were that the comments and items that I
presented below are valid and more optimal (with one exception). In addition:
Please add a handball wall or two in the back area. This is one of the hottest sports activities in elementary schools and
there appears to be plenty of room if my suggestion to swap the parking and basketball courts and paddle tennis court
locations. Our kids (now middle school and high school still go to play yards just to play handball. It would be great if
they were available at our community center.
Swapping the parking and "court" areas. This keeps the guests near the 2/10th of a mile long panoramic views from
when they arrive for likely most of their stay.
The paddle tennis court should become part of the parking lot. No need to demolish it... just remove the fencing poles
and fill the holes. Please don't limit a more optimized design just to keep the paddle tennis courts where they are. In the
big picture this is a very insignificant cost.
Please keep a butterfly compatible garden in the plan along the stroll path.
Please make sure that when new lower fencing is installed it is the coated black type (it does not refer to color in the
illustrations). Black is most invisible.
One item to retract: Other than the handball area that should be added, there would be no need for additional
"blacktop play area."
Thank you for considering my suggestions. If I can be of assistance at any point in the future, please let me know.
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Good luck and thank you.
Best regards,
Larry Paul
On Apr 28, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your thoughtful opinions and ideas on issues ranging from potentially shifting the paddle
tennis court and parking lot, adding picnic tables, keeping the butterfly garden, adding a handball wall,
etc... All of your ideas (and designs) will be shared and considered by the consultant and staff as we put
together the recommended design for Council's consideration.
Thanks again for your involvement and please feel free to continue to send in additional comments and
ideas.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattwCcDrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:58 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Matt,
I sincerely want to thank you and the entire team for working hard and listening to all of the different
opinions that have been voiced over the past couple of years. No small task and I have great respect for
getting it to this point.
My home is located at 4320 Dauntless for reference (since it was requested we state where we are
from).
With that said, my reactions are:
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Option A was far better of the two items presented, but both designs had a flaw in that I think limited
the creativity of the team. The item that I think limited the creativity was the direction to not alter the
the paddle tennis court that are in "good condition". This project will cost millions of dollars. The cost
to replace the paddle tennis courts is an incredibly small fraction of the cost of this project. It is mostly a
slab. Yes it is one of the newest things on the land ... but hardly worth compromising the design of the
park for that.
With that comment in mind I did some quick and dirty photoshop work to plan A with my PRELIMINARY
suggestion. Here is a list of changes I have proposed.
Relocate the paddle tennis courts and basketball courts as shown on both designs and locate them in
the north west corner of the property (below Forrestal. This will (ho pefuI1y)isolate a majority of the
sound away from both the Seaview and Ladera Linda neighborhoods. I have also included two full
basketball courts, not one and one half courts. I think that it is important to have a small play area co -
located with the basketball/paddle tennis courts so adults can play and their kids could be close by. I
think that was lost in both concepts.
This enables a larger parking area located where the proposed basketball courts and paddle tennis court
is shown on both options. I believe this could address many of the concerns voiced last night as I think
that there could be around 80 parking spaces.
I also moved the "storage building" to the approximate location as shown on option B.
Other comments that I have are:
This rework should include repairing the stairs between Seaview and the community center.
It would be good to have more picnic tables near the views.
The majority of the open views should be over the eastern end of the park (the existing field) since one
does not look directly into back yards of Seaview.
It would be great to have some shade trees.
I like the "Butterfly" garden a great deal. I don't understand why what is proposed was so hard to
understand (my wife also agrees).
My wife was not able to attend last night but her reaction was in general similar to mine, but added:
Both designs (including my artwork) did not have enough blacktop area
She would love to have a handball court. We still go back to Point Vicente with our kids to play
handball. There used to be one at Ladera Linda, but it was removed long ago. It would be nice if
this could be addressed on a future revision.
And I have also done some satellite overlay comparing... and have attached one screen shot.
I will continue thinking about this, but would appreciate if you would share this concept with the team.
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There were some very convincing arguments made about why the project should be done ... it was
designed as a school (I know I attended that school), but it is not now, nor will it will be again. I know
there are issues with the existing structures, asbestos, main drain replacement and electrical just to
name the majority of the big ticket items, however, of those items, asbestos needs to be abated to
demolish the buildings and the main drain needs to be replaced either way ... so... even though it has
been asked many times ... the only item that has not been satisfactorily addressed that has nothing to do
with either of the designs ... but a real understanding of the costs to make what is there more
acceptable... at least as a point of comparison. Is this a $1M investment vs a $4M investment or is it $2M
vs 10M or 15M?? All I (and others have heard) is it is not worth it and we need to do this project. I
know many of us would like to see what the relative investment costs are. There may be aspects of
these improvements that can be done to improve some of the existing buildings and the play areas. I
would like to see a completely transparent analysis on the entire costs of all options ... one of them being
the repair and upgrade of some of the existing buildings.
After I think about this more ... I will try to have a more formal response in the coming days (as time
permits).
Thank you and to the entire team.
Best regards,
Larry
On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply
appreciate you taking the time to participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on
the two park design alternatives and the building diagram. You may have already
received Listsery messages this morning, but in case not, the link below will take you to
the Ladera Linda Master Plan website where you can find last night's powerpoint as well
as links to the two alternatives and other documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All
correspondence received by May 10 will be included in the report to City Council which
will included the recommended design. Email comments to mattw@rpvca.gov Please
feel free to forward this email to your neighbors and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in
the Recreation and Parks Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange
to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your
participation.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
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Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(o)rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
<image001.png>
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:08 PM
To:
Ara Mihranian; sharon yarber
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Sharon,
The two Ladera Linda Park Master Plan proposals that were discussed at the April 26th workshop do not address the
Forrestal Reserve and access beyond the gate. The two proposals focus on designs for a new Community Center
building and Ladera Linda Park itself. There was significant discussion about Forrestal access and parking at the
workshop although there was no discussion about EQ issues. As the plans stand right now, neither proposes any
changes to the current Forrestal Reserve plan. Proposal B has the building located on the dirt (paddle tennis level) while
Proposal A has the building on the main level with paved parking located in front of the building and on the paddle
tennis level. See link below.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
I will share your email with the LL Master Plan project team as we prepare a final recommended design for Council's
consideration. Your email will be included with that Council Staff Report. Please let me know if you have any other
questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw .rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Matt
From: Ara Mihranian
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 9:40 PM
To: sharon yarber <momofyago@gmail.com>; Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
I will talk to Matt tomorrow about your concerns.
And yes, I am talking about the paved roadway along Forrestal drive.
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Ara Michael Mihranian
Community Development Director
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30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
310-544-5228 (telephone)
310-544-5293 (fax)
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From: Sharon yarber [mailto:momofyago@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 7:02 PM
To: Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Ara,
I never heard further from Matt. The two proposed designs both completely cut off access to the dirt parking
area behind the facility. What use is proposed for that property? Does the City in it? When you refer to Forrestal
trail do you mean the paved street? Why should access to the lot be cut off? It is the only good, safe place to
offload a horse?
On May 8, 2017 1:32 PM, "Ara Mihranian" <AraMk!pvca.gov> wrote:
I actually don't know if the large dirt lot behind the building will be used for horse trailer parking as part of the
park plan. I will defer to Matt.
In the past, the equestrian community requested to park horse trailers along the road on forrestal drive behind
the gates and that was eventually included in the preserve trails plan. Don't you think better access to the trails
would exist if horse trailers parked on the road rather than the dirt lot?
I agree having a trailhead with benches should be included in the plan. There's already a drinking fountain next
to the PV stone wall near the gate. However, I am not sure if it's still working.
Sent from my iPhone
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On May 8, 2017, at 4:22 PM, sharon yarber <momo . ajzo&gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ara, but I don't fully understand this email. Is the large dirt parking lot behind the
center going to remain available for horse trailer parking? And my email also included
consideration of tie rails and maybe some water and benches for resting.
On May 8, 2017 12:51 PM, "Ara Mihranian" <AraMkp2vcq. ov> wrote:
Sharon,
Currently, the city's preserve trails plan allows trailers for hitching purposes along the forrestal
trail, behind the yellow gate, up to the crystal trail.
Ara
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 7, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Sharon yarber <momofyagokgmail.com> wrote:
> I have been too swamped with work and personal affairs to study this closely. Suffice to say
that whatever your plans ultimately include, it is important to be certain that they include
facilities that will accommodate equestrians. We need places where a trailer can get in and out,
water, horse tie ups and places for equestrians to rest themselves and their mounts. This is a
trailhead for all users and as you consider the needs of all, please remember to include
equestrians and persons in the ALL group.
> Thank you.
> Sharon Yarber
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:51 PM
To:
lynda_sakamaki_shepard@ahm.honda.com
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Dear Lynda,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns will all
be considered by the project team and consultant during the creation of a recommended design option for
consideration by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report.
FYI: Ladera Linda has hosted a YMCA -run Summer Camp the last two years and plans to do so again this year. Both of
the current designs includes a community center with large and small meeting spaces, kid play areas, and casual field
areas for drop-in use.
Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: lynda_sakamaki_shepard@ahm.honda.com[ma iIto: lynda_sakamaki_shepard@ahm.honda.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:25 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
Hi Matt!
My husband & I are in favor of the redevelopment at Ladera Linda although we were disappointed no pool is in the
forecast. I'm a working mom and after work, I shuttle my kids around to their various activities. It would be nice to have
a park and recreation center like Hess Park. It would be nice if entities such as the AYSO/UK summer camps could hold a
summer day camp on THIS side of the hill.
We appreciate any and all parks especially those with both a place to meet (community building -- perhaps one large
enough to hold birthday parties or retirement dinners) as well as play areas for kids and green space for field sports.
Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information.
Thanks for allowing me to submit comments!
--Lynda
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:48 PM
To:
Valanca English
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Dear Ms. English,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
favoring Proposal A, the butterfly garden, building security design, and playground location will all be considered by the
project team and consultant during the creation of a recommended design option for consideration by the City
Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional
questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Valanca English [mailto:valenglish@icloud.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:03 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Hi Matt,
As a resident of Ladera Linda, I deeply appreciate the thought and preparation that went into the options you presented
for the park plan. It was presented with great attention to detail and it was obvious the residents' concerns had been
taken into consideration. Thank you!
I prefer plan A. I love the butterfly garden! Please don't eliminate that. My one small concern is removing any play
equipment from the paddle tennis area. I like the play ground area separated, as presented, but ... if parents or
grandparents want to play paddle tennis and still be able to keep an eye on their kids, it would be nice for them to have
a little something for the kids to play on nearby.
I do think the resident that expressed concerns about all the nooks and crannies between the buildings where
miscreants could hide had a valid point, so you might do some rethinking about how to secure that area. But overall, I
love it.
Thank you for all the time and thought that you and the others put into this.
Sincerely,
Val English
On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply appreciate you
taking the time to participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on the two park design alternatives
and the building diagram. You may have already received Listsery messages this morning, but in case
not, the link below will take you to the Ladera Linda Master Plan website where you can find last night's
powerpoint as well as links to the two alternatives and other documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All correspondence
received by May 10 will be included in the report to City Council which will included the recommended
design. Email comments to mattw@rpvca.gov Please feel free to forward this email to your neighbors
and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in the Recreation
and Parks Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your participation.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
<image001.png>
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:19 PM
To:
jessica; CC
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Dear Ms. Meyer,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
traffic, security, crime, financing, lighting, and size of the facility will all be considered by the project team and
consultant during the creation of a recommended design option for Council's consideration. Your email will also be
attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: jessica [mailto:jessboop@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
I'm sort of coming in late on this, however, I'm wondering who the City is doing this for; the neighbors, the public???
Since Terrenea and the Trump Development have moved into the neighborhood, and, more housing, we who live here
have had definitely more traffic, more break-ins, more traffic accidents, more vandalism..and more trash. Palos Verdes
used to be open space land with a small number of housing communities, and beautiful. One could see over the land
forever to the ocean, Catalina, and scrub and wildflowers.
There was wildlife, there was very little traffic.
So, I ask, who is this Ladera Linda Development for????
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If you must have some form of Recreational Development, then I suppose, it should be small! Who will manager this
facility? Who will care for the grounds, etc. Who will care for the security of this park and the neighbors and the
neighborhoods that adjoin the park? Who is paying for this? Who will monitor this area. Are there lights that will bother
the neighborhood (our beautiful stars at night that we can no longer see due to development!)? Will there be security
guards? Who will manage the flow of traffic into and out of these streets.
One very important point: Palos Verdes Drive South is the only main one lane in each direction artery into and out of this
now much more crowded area. Emergency vehicles have to push to the side (where are the sides?) any vehicles,
bicycles, etc. to get in and around for an emergency, slowing down their travel!. Traffic in and out of communities is
already difficult. People get lost, do not know where they are going and make u turns at entrances to communities,
thereby causing backups and sometimes accidents. Who will monitor the traffic safety??? We are already
stretched -there is no room for road expansion, yet we seem to be encouraging more growthM
I suppose you will do what you must, however, why don't you just maintain what is at Ladera Linda (which I understand
is in need) and build your Recreational site at City Hall!!!!!
Discouraged,
Jessica Meyer
PBC
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 9:50 AM
To:
Lawrence Paul
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your thoughtful opinions and ideas on issues ranging from potentially shifting the paddle tennis court and
parking lot, adding picnic tables, keeping the butterfly garden, adding a handball wall, etc... All of your ideas (and
designs) will be shared and considered by the consultant and staff as we put together the recommended design for
Council's consideration.
Thanks again for your involvement and please feel free to continue to send in additional comments and ideas.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(a)rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:58 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Matt,
I sincerely want to thank you and the entire team for working hard and listening to all of the different opinions that have
been voiced over the past couple of years. No small task and I have great respect for getting it to this point.
My home is located at 4320 Dauntless for reference (since it was requested we state where we are from).
With that said, my reactions are:
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Option A was far better of the two items presented, but both designs had a flaw in that I think limited the creativity of
the team. The item that I think limited the creativity was the direction to not alter the the paddle tennis court that are
in "good condition". This project will cost millions of dollars. The cost to replace the paddle tennis courts is an
incredibly small fraction of the cost of this project. It is mostly a slab. Yes it is one of the newest things on the land ... but
hardly worth compromising the design of the park for that.
With that comment in mind I did some quick and dirty photoshop work to plan A with my PRELIMINARY
suggestion. Here is a list of changes I have proposed.
Relocate the paddle tennis courts and basketball courts as shown on both designs and locate them in the north west
corner of the property (below Forrestal. This will (hopefully)isolate a majority of the sound away from both the Seaview
and Ladera Linda neighborhoods. I have also included two full basketball courts, not one and one half courts. I think
that it is important to have a small play area co -located with the basketball/paddle tennis courts so adults can play and
their kids could be close by. I think that was lost in both concepts.
This enables a larger parking area located where the proposed basketball courts and paddle tennis court is shown on
both options. I believe this could address many of the concerns voiced last night as I think that there could be around 80
parking spaces.
I also moved the "storage building" to the approximate location as shown on option B.
Other comments that I have are:
This rework should include repairing the stairs between Seaview and the community center.
It would be good to have more picnic tables near the views.
The majority of the open views should be over the eastern end of the park (the existing field) since one does not look
directly into back yards of Seaview.
It would be great to have some shade trees.
I like the "Butterfly" garden a great deal. I don't understand why what is proposed was so hard to understand (my wife
also agrees).
My wife was not able to attend last night but her reaction was in general similar to mine, but added:
Both designs (including my artwork) did not have enough blacktop area
She would love to have a handball court. We still go back to Point Vicente with our kids to play handball. There
used to be one at Ladera Linda, but it was removed long ago. It would be nice if this could be addressed on a
future revision.
And I have also done some satellite overlay comparing... and have attached one screen shot.
I will continue thinking about this, but would appreciate if you would share this concept with the team.
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Ladera Lin -da Community Park
City of Rancho Palos Verdes April 27, 2017
Concept "C" (by Larry Paul) First Draft
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There were some very convincing arguments made about why the project should be done ... It was designed as a school (I
know I attended that school), but it is not now, nor will it will be again. I know there are issues with the existing
structures, asbestos, main drain replacement and electrical just to name the majority of the big ticket items, however, of
those items, asbestos needs to be abated to demolish the buildings and the main drain needs to be replaced either
way ... so... even though it has been asked many times ... the only item that has not been satisfactorily addressed that has
nothing to do with either of the designs... but a real understanding of the costs to make what is there more
acceptable... at least as a point of comparison. Is this a $1M investment vs a $4M investment or is it $2M vs 10M or
15M?? All I (and others have heard) is it is not worth it and we need to do this project. I know many of us would like to
see what the relative investment costs are. There may be aspects of these improvements that can be done to improve
some of the existing buildings and the play areas. I would like to see a completely transparent analysis on the entire
costs of all options ... one of them being the repair and upgrade of some of the existing buildings.
After I think about this more ... I will try to have a more formal response in the coming days (as time permits).
Thank you and to the entire team.
Best regards,
Larry
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On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply appreciate you
taking the time to participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on the two park design alternatives
and the building diagram. You may have already received Listsery messages this morning, but in case
not, the link below will take you to the Ladera Linda Master Plan website where you can find last night's
powerpoint as well as links to the two alternatives and other documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All correspondence
received by May 10 will be included in the report to City Council which will included the recommended
design. Email comments to mattw@rpvca.gov Please feel free to forward this email to your neighbors
and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in the Recreation
and Parks Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your participation.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply appreciate you
taking the time to participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on the two park design alternatives
and the building diagram. You may have already received Listsery messages this morning, but in case
not, the link below will take you to the Ladera Linda Master Plan website where you can find last night's
powerpoint as well as links to the two alternatives and other documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All correspondence
received by May 10 will be included in the report to City Council which will included the recommended
design. Email comments to mattw@rpvca.gov Please feel free to forward this email to your neighbors
and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in the Recreation
and Parks Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your participation.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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Matt Waters
From:
Andrea Vona <avona@pvplc.org>
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:51 PM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Thank you Matt
Sincerely,
Andrea
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Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy
916 Silver Spur Road, #207
Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
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From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW rpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:56 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply appreciate you taking the time to
participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on the two park design alternatives and the building diagram. You may
have already received Listsery messages this morning, but in case not, the link below will take you to the Ladera Linda
Master Plan website where you can find last night's powerpoint as well as links to the two alternatives and other
documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All correspondence received by May 10
will be included in the report to City Council which will included the recommended design. Email comments to
mattw@rpvca.gov Please feel free to forward this email to your neighbors and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in the Recreation and Parks
Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your participation.
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Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rev
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 1:42 PM
To: Gary Randall
Cc: Cory Linder; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Gary,
Thanks for attending last week's meeting and for your email. RFA and all the Staff who have worked on this project
appreciate the feedback we have received from the local community and have done our best to be responsive.
Your comments about preferring Proposal A and your concern about the proposed pedestrian access point and its effect
on street parking will be shared with the project design team as we prepare a recommended alternative for Council's
consideration. Preliminary cost -estimates will be included with this issue is brought to Council. Your email will be
included as part of that meeting's report. Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 7:31 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
Matt:
First, I would like to say thanks to you and Cory for the presentation on Wednesday. It was obvious from the
presentation that you have been listening to the input from the local residents and have tried to incorporate many of
our wishes into this project. That is very much appreciated.
As you know, there was no indication of actual cost for either of the proposed concepts, so any comments I make here
are preliminary and subject to an understanding of the cost.
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I strongly prefer Concept A, as I would like to keep the main entrance to the park approximately where it currently is
located, with one major exception. I do NOT believe a pedestrian entrance located directly across from Pirate Drive is
desirable. Such an entrance will only serve to encourage and exacerbate street parking on Pirate and Sea Raven. I do
understand that ADA laws require wheelchair access from the sidewalk on Forrestal, and believe that such access can be
accommodated at the current entrance location by lengthening the ramp going down into the parking
area. Lengthening the ramp will reduce the slope, and I believe it should not be difficult to achieve the ADA required
12:1 slope in such fashion. If I am mistaken, then perhaps a "switched back" wheelchair ramp can be considered
(although I think that is not necessary).
Please seriously consider this option and remove the pedestrian entrance directly opposite of Pirate Drive.
Regards
Gary Randall
Ladera Linda Resident
From: Matt Waters [mai Ito: MattWC@rpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:56 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda
Thank you for attending last night's Ladera Linda Master Plan workshop. We deeply appreciate you taking the time to
participate and offer your thoughts and opinions on the two park design alternatives and the building diagram. You may
have already received Listsery messages this morning, but in case not, the link below will take you to the Ladera Linda
Master Plan website where you can find last night's powerpoint as well as links to the two alternatives and other
documents.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
As a reminder, comments on the alternative plans must be received by May 10. All correspondence received by May 10
will be included in the report to City Council which will included the recommended design. Email comments to
mattw@rpvca.gov Please feel free to forward this email to your neighbors and friends.
If anyone needs to see the full scale mock-ups that were on display last night, they are in the Recreation and Parks
Department. Please email me at mattw@rpvca.gov to arrange to see them.
Feel free to call me or email with any questions, and again thank you for your participation.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 10:02 AM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com; Doug Willmore; Michael Throne; Cory Linder; Ara Mihranian
Cc: CC
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
Hi Sunshine,
Thank you for your email regarding the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and ideas about the Palos
Verdes Loop Trail, including a comfort station, and a hybrid Proposal C will all be shared with the project team and
consultant as we prepare a final recommended option for the City Council's consideration. Your email will be attached
to that Staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or comments.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cDrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Better,
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:15 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWiIImore@rpvca.gov>; Michael Throne
<MichaelT@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda and other proposed park improvements
April 30, 2017
MEMO
FROM: SUNSHINE, the Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project Archivist
TO: Matt Waters, Analyst, RPV City Manager, Director of Public Works, Director of
Rec. & Parks, Director of Community Development
RE: How the Ladera Linda Community Center/Park is not an island
Ladera Linda Park is both a destination and a trail head. It is also a
"pit stop" along the Palos Verdes Loop Trail. As such, the changes in the infrastructure should accommodate
all three types of visitors.
In RPV's currently adopted TRAILS NETWORK PLAN (TNP) (1984), implementation programs are listed
along with assignment of "Responsible Parties". (Pages 49 and 50.) The Leisure Services Dept. (now called
the Recreation and Parks Dept.) was given the task of drafting an update of the TNP. City Council approved
"Phase One" in 1990 which did not include an update of the Implementation Programs/Responsible Parties
list. It is still the responsibility of the Public Works Dept. to supply and maintain "sufficient support
facilities". It is still the responsibility of the City Manager to incorporate the appropriate funding in the City's
Budget.
Both of the Ladera Linda Concepts as currently presented do not provide a clearly designated "trail head"
facility. I am envisioning a "comfort station" a lot like the one which is in between the parking lot at the end of
La Rotunda Drive and the trail across the Trump Golf Course to the California Coastal Trail.
As a Facilities Designer, my suggestion for a CONCEPT C is the two parking lot version of CONCEPT A with
the entrance aligned at Pirate Drive as shown in CONCEPT B. Keep the storage facility per Concept A and
make the storage facility in Concept B the trail head "comfort station".
The Palos Verdes Loop Trail Project's Mission is to preserve and enhance a 26 mile off-road and unpaved
pathway around the Palos Verdes Peninsula and the Peninsula Wheel Trails Network which connects
destinations by large and small loops for as many different trail users as is feasible. Consider the trail
connection from Forrestal Drive to the "comfort station" at Ladera Linda Park. Given that the Palos Verdes
Loop Trail is TYPE 1 along Forrestal Drive and is TYPE 4 up to the "quarry bowl", some Lawyer gets to
decide which "TYPE" the connecting trail should be.
Other than the site specific comments, all of the above should be considered in conjunction with any
improvement plans for any of the other parks which are trail accessible.
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 10:00 AM
To:
Donald Bell
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Comment Card
Dear Mr. Bell,
Thank you for taking the time to send in your comments regarding the proposed Ladera Linda Master Plan draft
designs. Your concerns and ideas about security, views, building design, access paths, basketball court location, storage,
and kid -friendly design elements, construction impact, and parking will be shared with project staff and our consultant
as we prepare a final recommended design for Council's consideration.
Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Donald Bell [mailto:dwbrpv@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:29 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Home Bell <dwbrpv@gmail.com>
Subject: Ladera Linda Comment Card
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Matt Waters
From:
Diane Smith <radlsmith@cox.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:24 PM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
Re: Ladera Linda grafitti gangs
Great - thanks Matt
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Diane,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and
concerns including graffiti, trash, crime, building design ideas will all be considered by the Project team
as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be
attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and
concerns.
Thanks,
Matt
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Diane Smith [mailto:radlsmith@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 3:59 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: 'Barry Hildebrand' <bihilde@aol.com>; cynthia.washicko@langnews.com;'edmundo hummel'
<ecarloshum@gmail.com>; megan.barnes@langnews.com
Subject: Ladera Linda grafitti gangs
Dear Matt,
I still see faded useless signs in the preserve at Ocean Trails so, again, I ask why you (the city) would
build more when you cannot take care of what you have.
I've taken photos and now COX CABLE is not available to send. I will follow up with photos asap.
I started walking at the Ladera Linda soccer fields and now see graffiti on the picnic bench with glass
beer bottles, junk food wrappers strewn around — I'm tired of picking up the crap everywhere I go so it is
still there — every day this past week. Walking down the steps from the parking lot there is gouged
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graffiti on the metal railing and opposite that on the cement culvert is more graffiti —that has been
growing. There are pieces of clothing strewn around along the steps — underwear, socks and other stuff
under the pine — looks like someone's been living in there. I hope I'm mistaken.
I have not looked at the plans for new Ladera Linda building but understand there are far too many
expensive corners — wasted money and alcoves for the "bad apples." I do not know if you have built in
money for security cameras but you must. Security cameras and sheriffs to patrol and people to clean
up.
EI Prado and San Ramon have had recent robberies — not even a week ago some thieves ditched their
stolen car after crashing it into residents property and then hid in Friendship Park.
It is all very nice to build new — but build modest — build for the residents because it is the residents that
have to put up with the mobs that come to destroy it — unless you promise to keep it safe and clean.
I have said this over and over and over again but for some reason there's a missing link.
People are sick and tired of watching their hard earned money wasted.
Speaking of waste, it was 30 years ago today that the McAuley family and Smith family filed their lawsuit
against the Governing Board of the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School District, Superintendent Jack
Price and Assistant Superintendent David Capelouto. Sure we stopped the unauthorized waivers of
developer fees, stopped the giveaway land deals and were able to save Dapplegray and other properties
but we are old now and tired and getting sick.
Still the crooks move in with dumping of toxics and junk on our precious fields, graffiti, gouging precious
greens at Trump National —just evil mean rotten apples.
I'm literally sick of it all.
Simply prove to me you can maintain and protect what we residents have fought so hard to preserve
before spending one more penny or hire architects that just don't understand.
Diane Smith
P.S. Barry and Ed, please forward this to our master mailing list — I'm too tired to look it up. All the best
to everyone — Diane
Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:58 PM
To:
Russell Greenwood
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Horse Accommdations
Dear Sheree and Russ Greenwood,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments will all be
considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your
email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and
concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattwk!pvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Russell Greenwood [mailto:beachjake@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:06 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Horse Accommdations
We are in favor of equestrian and other accommodations. As equestrians who has enjoyed riding in
Forrestal over the years, we have the following requests:
A parking area that would accommodate horse trailers for the loading and unloading of horses.
Shaded picnic tables, some that could accommodate a wheel chair would be nice.
Trash receptacles.
A tie rail for horses in the parking lot area, but not too close to picnic tables.
A water trough/fountain for horses, dogs and hikers.
Access to restrooms.
Signs that would say, "Pick up after your dog/horse"
A bike rack
Sherree and Russ Greenwood.
2543 Sunnyside Ridge Road
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:37 PM
To:
Melody Colbert
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Master Plan
Dear Ms. Colbert,
Thank you for sending me the comments about EQ issues and amenities related to the Ladera Linda Park Master
Plan. Your ideas will and suggestions will be considered by the project team and consultant during the creation of a
recommended design option for Council's consideration. Your comments will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Melody Colbert [ma iIto: melcolbert@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: cmoneil@aol.com
Subject: Ladera Linda Master Plan
Please see attached Comment from Palos Verdes Peninsula Horsemen's Association.
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:54 AM
To:
SW J
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Master Plan Comment
Dear Mr. Jaquez,
Thank you for attending last week's Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Wokshop and for offering your comments on a range
of subjects including your preference for Concept A, the privacy of Seaview homes/need for landscaping buffer,
relocation of basketball courts, and restricting/removing access to the School -District owned soccer fields. Your
opinions will be considered by our design team and consultant as we put together a final recommended option for
Council's consideration. Your email will be attached to that final report.
Please let me know if you have any additional comments, questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cbrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Kett"er.
From: SW J [mailto:swjaquez@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:52 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Master Plan Comment
Dear Mr. Waters,
After attending the latest Ladera Linda Master Plan Workshop on April 26th and viewing both concept designs,
I believe Concept A better maximize the use of the property while taking into consideration the various
community comments to date. I do, however, have a few comments/changes to Concept A that I feel would
better enhance the use of the property. These are:
Ensure Existing Privacy Of Seaview Homes. I live in the Seaview Community in a home directly below
the Ladera Linda Park. As such, maintaining our existing privacy is crucial and we want to ensure that
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the design creates a wide and high enough landscape buffer along the Park's property line so that
individuals enjoying the Park are not provided an easy opportunity to look down into our backyard and
bedrooms.
2. Move Basketball Courts Closer to Play Areas. As a number of community members mentioned at the
Workshop, moving the basketball courts closer to the Play Areas will allow parents/guardians to better
watch both younger and older children at play. There is plenty of open green space surrounding the Play
Areas in Concept A to relocate the basketball courts. Indeed, the basketball courts might sit nicely at the
Southeastern point of the park (so long as both the courts and Play Areas are within eyesight of each
other). The current design location of the basketball courts in Concept A could then be used for a
peaceful and shaded sitting area. Possibly even with a small water feature? This could be conducive to
attracting butterflies to the nearby proposed Butterfly Garden.
3. Remove or Restrict Access To AYSO Fields To Conserve Limited Parking. Given the limited
parking, we should remove or restrict direct access to the nearby AYSO fields (i.e., via the two existing
staircases). Direct access will only encourage visitors to the AYSO fields to park in the limited spaces
leaving those who have come to enjoy the park with little to no parking. If AYSO (or hikers for the
nearby trails) need additional parking, the City should consider adding designated parking at the top of
Forrestal Drive.
Thank you for your consideration and a big "Thank You" to all at the City and the design team for helping
revive our local community park.
Best,
Sean Jaquez
32214 Valor Place
Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:08 PM
To:
Herb Stark
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Meeting
Hi Herb,
Thanks for coming last night and for being an active participant. Thanks also for emailing all of your thoughtful
comments below; I assure you that they will definitely be considered in the formation of a recommended design for
Council's consideration and your email will be attached to that report. Please let me know if you have any additional
questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Herb Stark [mailto:herbertstark@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:49 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Meeting
Hi Matt,
First let me say that Parks and Recreation and the contractor did a great job in following the requests of the
residents.
Here are some of my suggestions.
1. I would recommend option A for the Park configuration for the following reasons.
a. Retains the present entrance
b. The maintenance and storage building is not located in the main area of the park
c. Less hardscape (driveway)
2. Parking is not adequate
a. Suggest including 40 more parking spaces along Forrestal behind the gate with a stairway into
the park as part of the plan.
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b. I would leave the gate where it is for now and just open it up for major events
c. The Forrestal area could also be used for bus parking
3. I agree with those present that the basketball court should be located with the children's play area.
a. One court should be adequate. We walk the area and do not see a lot of use.
b. The location of the basketball court and the play area should take into consideration any noise
into the residential areas.
4. There should be an area where families or groups (under 20) can have a picnic.
5. Native plants should be used in the park where possible.
a. As long as the butterfly garden is just plantings that attract butterflies I have no problem.
b. Remember we still have a water problem
6. I agree in keeping the lower field small to preclude the use as a league soccer field
7. The building is fine
a. I have a problem with a potential security issue. The outside of the building, as shown, has a
lot of hiding places. You might want to square it up.
b. View is not an issue with me. The rooms are for community meetings/classes and not public
social events where views might be important.
In all I thought it was a good meeting.
Herb Stark
Ladera Linda
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:13 PM
To:
Hans H. Kuehl
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park
Dear Mr. Kuehl,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your preference for Proposal A will
all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council.
Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions
and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Hans H. Kuehl [mailto:kuehl@usc.edu]
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 5:28 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park
I am a resident of Ladera Linda and attended the recent workshop. Thank you for your thorough presentation and for
taking our concerns into account.
Of the two plans presented, my wife and I believe that plan A is the preferable option.
Hans Kuehl
3527 Vigilance Dr.
RPV
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 04, 2017 1:33 PM
To:
Ayren Dreyer
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park
Dear Aryen Dreyer,
Thank you for your comments about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your message about having safe areas for
children to play will be shared with our design team as they prepare a recommended design for the City Council's
consideration.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cDrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Ayren Dreyer [mailto:ayreno@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park
Dear Mathew,
My husband and I are in favor of the redevelopment of the Ladera Linda park so that there will be
more recreational opportunities in our neighborhood. We recently visited the park for Family Fun
Day with Portuguese Bend Nursery School and we were so happy to have a nearby park to visit for
the occasion. It brought back many childhood memories and it would be wonderful to see my
children have an equally wonderful place to play as I did as a child. Please develop this area so
there are more opportunities for kids to have a safe play area.
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Thank you,
Ayren and Eric Dreyer
6343 Villa Rosa Drive
Wherever you go, there you are—
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 04, 2017 11:54 AM
To:
Sharon Gross
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park
Dear Sharon and Morrie Gross,
Thank you for reviewing the Ladera Linda Park plans and for sharing your opinions about your preference for Plan B,
more play areas, and table and benches. Your comments will be shared with the entire design team as we prepare a
recommended proposal for City Council consideration. Your email will also be included as part of that eventual City
Council Staff Report.
Feel free to contact me with any additional comments or questions.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Sharon Gross [mailto:sharongross@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:26 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park
We have viewed the plans for the park and definitely prefer Plan B. We'd like to see more play area space for families with
children, with equipment like swings, slides, climbing equipment, etc. as well as tables with benches for picnics. These
may already be included, but are not shown on the plan. It looks like a great plan!
Sharon & Morrie Gross
31059 Hawksmoor Dr.
RPV
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:48 PM
To:
edmundo hummel
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Comments
Dear Mr. Hummel,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
views, parking, landscaping, and bathroom design will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a
recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw( !pvca.goy - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: edmundo hummel [mailto:ecarloshum@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:01 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Deweys Deweys <rgdewey@cox.net>; Tom Smith <Thomas.Smith@gmail.com>; Jenkins, Georgette
<georgette.jenkins@boeing.com>; Terri Shary <terri@sharyhospitality.com>; Mickey Rodich
<mickeyrodich@yahoo.com>; Judy Youssef <julysa@aol.com>; Kate Nash <kate.nash@me.com>; tom.smith@gmail.com
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Comments
Hi Matt. I couldnt make the recent meeting on Ladera Linda, but I have three big concerns.
The first is that we would be going from the current 17 parking spots (plus the dirt lot near the courts) to 65
spots. I think this is excessive and will encourage increasing numbers of non-residents to visit the park. I
understand the Ladera Linda Board is asking for an additional 40 spots on Forrestal. Obviously I dont
agree. We should be limiting capacity, not increasing it.
Secondly, it may seem like a good idea and an improvement, but removing the trees and shrubs outside the
southern fence line to improve views will, without a doubt, draw more people to the park (think Del Cerro) and
we'll be dealing the same problems Del Cerro residents are dealing with.
Lastly, the enclosed bathrooms are an outdated design and could be a lure for illegal activity. Several cities
have installed single -stall, access from the outside bathrooms.
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Thanks!
Ed
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:25 PM
To:
Jim Hevener
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park comments
Yes, thank Jim!
Matt
From: Jim Hevener [mailto:jhevener@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 4:20 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park comments
I assume you received these, Matt.
Jim Hevener
From: Jim Hevener [mailto:jhevener0)cox.net]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:43 AM
To: 'Matt Waters'
Subject: Ladera Linda Park comments
Matt
The presentation at the April Community Outreach Meeting was excellent and I thought the plans presented by
Dick Fisher and his firm are outstanding.
I am writing on behalf of myself as well as the Board of the Mediterrania HOA (WHOX).
Comments of MHOA Board:
1. MHOA supports the redevelopment of Ladera Linda Park, to include the construction of a reasonably
sized community center as well as recreation areas and equipment for youth. The Fisher plans A&B
meet these goals.
2. MHOA acknowledges the concerns of residents who live adjacent to the Park, and will support efforts to
mitigate the impact of the Park, but the Park is a resource for all the neighborhoods in the
Southern/Eastern side of the City.
3. To the extent there is consensus with the residents who live adjacent to the Park, MHOA supports
expanding the scope of the project to include developing parking along Forrestal above the current
entrance.
4. To the extent there is consensus with the residents who live adjacent to the Park, MHOA supports
keeping the entrance to the Park above the intersection of Forrestal and Pirate (Fisher Plan A).
Comments of Jim Hevener personally:
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Community Center should be larger; not smaller. I am concerned that the size of the community
center (less than 10,000 sq. feet) is not sufficient for the next 40 years. The same is true with
respect to the limited storage capacity. If the City is going to spend substantial dollars on the
project, a true long-term vision should prevail. That said, I am a big fan of compromise and, if City
Staff honestly concludes the Fisher plans are sufficient, I will support implementation. Under no
circumstances, however, should the City agree to build an even smaller facility (or less storage) to
appease a small group.
2. Need for other amenities including community pool and gymnasium. Myself (and many people I
have spoken to in the area with children) still support redevelopment including a community pool,
gymnasium, and BBQ areas for families/small groups like Cub Scouts. This seems to have been
forgotten. When I went back and looked at the internet survey results (vs. community meetings),
there was substantial support for these amenities. I acknowledge there also was substantial
opposition. It appears a compromise has been reached with respect to Ladera Linda, but I hope
there is not further backsliding. I also hope the City will pursue a community pool and gymnasium
and other similar amenities as it moves forward with the redevelopment of the area around the
current City Hall.
3. 1 prefer Plan A over Plan B, with the following changes:
a. Basketball courts should be kept in the same general area as the children's playground and
equipment. I have kids of different ages and would like to have them play in the same
general area. Some of this space should be "general purpose hardscape that kids can use
to ride scooters or learn to ride bike. Not anything remotely like a skate park, just some
general purpose hardscape (if the basketball courts are off limits for general use).
b. The "dead space" adjacent to the paddle tennis courts would make a wonderful area for a
family/small group picnic meeting area. I would enjoy having Cub Scout Den meetings in
such a space. The space also has a wonderful view of the Coast.
c. I think the "butterfly garden" is a great idea but there seemed to be some
confusion. Perhaps "native flower garden" is a better name with explanation that the
flowering plants are both beautiful and also attract butterflies and humming birds. It is my
understanding this is not a butterfly aviary with a screened -in enclosure.
d. I think the approx. 70 parking spots are not adequate and the project scope should be
expanded now to include diagonal parking above on Forrestal.
e. Consider rotating building by 90 degrees to take advantage of the views.
f. Add Fitness Stations to plan. This was the number 1 most popular in the original internet
survey and is consistent with the plan for the walking paths.
g. Eliminate the stairs to the "upper" LL fields. While convenient, there already is a problem
with AYSO people taking over all available parking. Keeping these stairs will continue this
trend, especially with Plan A having the upper parking area. Blocking off this staircase will
tend to keep a least some of the parking for the LL Park vs. the upper fields.
Thank you again for all of your hard work in moving this process forward.
Jim Hevener
Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:02 PM
To:
Jim Hevener
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park comments
Hi Jim,
Glad you liked the April 26`" presentation. Appreciate your involvement and feedback as well as that of the MHOA
Board. Both your personal comments and those of the Board will be shared with the Project team as we move
forward. This email will be included as part of the City Council Staff Report when they consider the recommended
design option.
Thanks again.
Matt
From: Jim Hevener [mailto:jhevener@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:43 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park comments
Matt
The presentation at the April Community Outreach Meeting was excellent and I thought the plans presented by
Dick Fisher and his firm are outstanding.
I am writing on behalf of myself as well as the Board of the Mediterrania HOA ("MHOA").
Comments of MHOA Board:
1. MHOA supports the redevelopment of Ladera Linda Park, to include the construction of a reasonably
sized community center as well as recreation areas and equipment for youth. The Fisher plans A&B
meet these goals.
2. MHOA acknowledges the concerns of residents who live adjacent to the Park, and will support efforts to
mitigate the impact of the Park, but the Park is a resource for all the neighborhoods in the
Southern/Eastern side of the City.
3. To the extent there is consensus with the residents who live adjacent to the Park, MHOA supports
expanding the scope of the project to include developing parking along Forrestal above the current
entrance.
4. To the extent there is consensus with the residents who live adjacent to the Park, MHOA supports
keeping the entrance to the Park above the intersection of Forrestal and Pirate (Fisher Plan A).
Comments of Jim Hevener personally:
1. Community Center should be larger; not smaller. I am concerned that the size of the community
center (less than 10,000 sq. feet) is not sufficient for the next 40 years. The same is true with
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respect to the limited storage capacity. If the City is going to spend substantial dollars on the
project, a true long-term vision should prevail. That said, I am a big fan of compromise and, if City
Staff honestly concludes the Fisher plans are sufficient, I will support implementation. Under no
circumstances, however, should the City agree to build an even smaller facility (or less storage) to
appease a small group.
2. Need for other amenities including community pool and gymnasium. Myself (and many people I
have spoken to in the area with children) still support redevelopment including a community pool,
gymnasium, and BBQ areas for families/small groups like Cub Scouts. This seems to have been
forgotten. When I went back and looked at the internet survey results (vs. community meetings),
there was substantial support for these amenities. I acknowledge there also was substantial
opposition. It appears a compromise has been reached with respect to Ladera Linda, but I hope
there is not further backsliding. I also hope the City will pursue a community pool and gymnasium
and other similar amenities as it moves forward with the redevelopment of the area around the
current City Hall.
3. (prefer Plan A over Plan B, with the following changes:
a. Basketball courts should be kept in the same general area as the children's playground and
equipment. I have kids of different ages and would like to have them play in the same
general area. Some of this space should be "general purpose hardscape that kids can use
to ride scooters or learn to ride bike. Not anything remotely like a skate park, just some
general purpose hardscape (if the basketball courts are off limits for general use).
b. The "dead space" adjacent to the paddle tennis courts would make a wonderful area for a
family/small group picnic meeting area. I would enjoy having Cub Scout Den meetings in
such a space. The space also has a wonderful view of the Coast.
c. I think the "butterfly garden" is a great idea but there seemed to be some
confusion. Perhaps "native flower garden" is a better name with explanation that the
flowering plants are both beautiful and also attract butterflies and humming birds. It is my
understanding this is not a butterfly aviary with a screened -in enclosure.
d. I think the approx. 70 parking spots are not adequate and the project scope should be
expanded now to include diagonal parking above on Forrestal.
e. Consider rotating building by 90 degrees to take advantage of the views.
Add Fitness Stations to plan. This was the number 1 most popular in the original internet
survey and is consistent with the plan for the walking paths.
g. Eliminate the stairs to the "upper" LL fields. While convenient, there already is a problem
with AYSO people taking over all available parking. Keeping these stairs will continue this
trend, especially with Plan A having the upper parking area. Blocking off this staircase will
tend to keep a least some of the parking for the LL Park vs. the upper fields.
Thank you again for all of your hard work in moving this process forward.
Jim Hevener
� �i
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Joanne Hageman
Cc: gjhageman@cox.net; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda park feedback
Dear Joanne and Greg Hagerman,
Thank you for attending the April 26th workshop and for sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan.
Your comments and concerns the basketball courts location, brush clearance and privacy concerns will all be considered
by the project team and consultant during the creation of a recommended design option for Council's consideration.
Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions
and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Joanne Hageman [mailto:j.hageman@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:03 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: gjhageman@cox.net
Subject: Ladera Linda park feedback
Hello.
We live on 32200 Valor place in the Seaview neighborhood. I was at the public forum on the future of the park. I voiced
a concern on where the basketball courts are situated as it will be directly above our house. I would ask that you
consider moving them to the back part of the park. Also it was mentioned that you will be clearing brush away from the
sides of the park. I would like to make sure that there is still privacy so that park goers are not looking directly into my
back yard.
Thank you.
Joanne and Greg Hageman
Sent from my iPhone
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:51 PM
To: Jerry
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Master Plan Concepts
Dear Mr. Hashimoto,
Thank you for your email and interest in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan process. Your comments about the stairs,
driveway, appropriateness for multiple age groups, children's playground equipment, building sightlines and your
preference for Proposal B will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be
considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you
have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Jerry [mailto:jhashimoto3@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Master Plan Concepts
Hi Matt,
I like Concept B with the community center building at the rear of the site.
• Any noise originating from the center would be located further away from the residential
neighborhood.
• The building located at the rear of the site provides more open sightlines of the park. Locating the
building as in Concept A seems to break up the site.
• The driveway entrance opposite Pirate Drive makes a lot of sense providing a more gentle sloping
driveway with parking down to the community center.
• Parking along the driveway also places it closer to playground and turf areas.
• Eliminating the existing stairway up to the soccer fields at the rear of the community center preserves
the parking for patrons of the park, especially on weekends. Soccer field patrons still have access to
the fields from the preserved stairway connected to the street.
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The plan provides nice amenities for all ages.
Jerry Hashimoto
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:26 PM
To: Patricia Stenehjem
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Master Plan
Dear Ms. Stenehjem,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns noise,
views, plantings and your preference for Proposal A will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a
recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p – (310) 544-5291 f -----Original Message -----
From: Patricia Stenehjem [mailto:patsyanntoo@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 8:19 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Master Plan
Hi Matt, I live directly across Forrestal from Ladera Linda Park. My kitchen/family room, master bedroom, and backyard
patio face west toward the park. My preference is for plan A, with no move of the entrance. Also, please keep noise
and view -blocking plants from interfering with myself and other neighbors' enjoyment of our property. I have had an
ongoing struggle with public works to keep plants on the East and South side of the park from obstructing my views, so
keep in mind the maintenance of any plantings in those areas. Privacy is also an issue for me, as park visitors can see into
my yard—and home windows-- from the current lower field if plantings are cut back too much, so I'd prefer some
moderate height planting in the new design.
Sincerely,
Patricia Stenehjem
32215 Searaven Drive
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:56 PM
To: erstevens@cox.net
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan "A"
Hi Ed,
Thanks for the email and for the kind words. Your preference for Proposal A and your comments about basketball
location will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the
City Council. We'll certainly do our utmost to allow as much access as possible to the paddle tennis courts during
construction.
Your email will also be attached to the Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and
concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: erstevens@cox.net [mailto:erstevens@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:54 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan "A"
Dear Matt,
You & your crew did an excellent job on listening to the Neighborhoods need with regards to the New Ladera Linda
Master Plan.
I think Plan A is the way to go & maybe a better LOCATION for the Basketball courts would be in the other corner
AWAY from the paddle Tennis courts.
A lot of people including myself enjoy the courts a few times a week & you need to find
away with the Building contractor to let the Public have access to the courts during
construction.
Keep up the good work.
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Ed Stevens
SeaView Resident for over 40 years
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:55 PM
To:
Craig German
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda park master plan
Dear Mr. German,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
traffic/parking, basketball location/number of courts, and the park entrance location will all be considered by the Project
team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to
that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Craig German [mailto:craig_german@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:20 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda park master plan
Dear Sir,
As a resident of the Ladera Linda community, I feel obligated to voice my opinion on the proposed master plans. Neither
are acceptable to in their current state. My objections and recommendations are as follows:
1) The entrance to the park needs to remain where it is. Moving it to the Pirate -Forrestal intersection will only increase
traffic and congestion at this intersection and cause further angst for residents trying to enter and leave their
community which is the only entrance and exit from this community. Putting it at the Pirate -Forrestal intersection will
widen this area increasing u -turns and dangerous maneuvers that already occur here. If it were to be placed at the
Pirate -Forrestal intersection there would need to be installed a mandatory 4 way stop sign so as to slow traffic, help
residents leave there only exit from their community in a safe and efficient manner and to prevent pedestrian accidents.
The current location is in a place that is out of sight of the community which is preferred. Plus the proposed change to
the intersection of Pirate -Forrestal places the driveway to the center so it actually takes away land from the activity
areas whereas where it currently is that land is to the side and above the activity area thereby maximizing area for
activity.
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2) The proposed placement of the basketball courts is utterly ridiculous in both plans. This area should be located next
to/near the play structure as they are now so that parents can watch different age group of kids or the adults can get a
little activity in while their young kids play on the structures. It makes no sense to separate these areas as they are on
the 2 plans. I also suggest that at least 2 full size basketball courts are created as this is a popular activity and will get a
lot of use. These really are essential changes that need to be highly considered and if not implemented will be a failure
for the community...
3) My understanding is the parking is going from 17 to 64 spots. This seems to be an enormous expansion of parking
and is, in my opinion, too much. Expanding the parking by this much is just going to increase the crowd sizes so much
more... We are a small community with only one way in and one way out. Bringing in crowds is NOT what the
community wants. We already have difficulty exiting on to PV drive from Forrestal because of lines of cars coming from
both directions. I do NOT support the expansion of parking by this much or anything more than this as some have
suggested by moving the current gates further up to provide more parking along Forrestal... It probably should be cut in
half to no more than 32 spots but even that is a lot if extra parking. If you provide the spots then that will just bring
more and more people as they will know the spots are there whereas now the parking is limited so people are likely
weary of coming here because they may not get a spot to park... I'd rather there be limited parking to prevent the
crowds. Please reconsider reconfiguring the number of parking spots to less.
These are my thoughts at this time. I really hope the City is true to their word and want what is best for the local
community and listens to the local residents.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Craig German, MD
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 09, 2017 4:15 PM
To:
Richard Stark
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Richard,
Thanks for sending in your preference for concept A. Your email and noting of potential intersection problems will be
considered by our design team as we prepare a final recommendation for the City Council's consideration. Your email
will be attached to that Council Staff report.
Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or comments.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Richard Stark [mailto:dimarstarl<@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 3:32 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
I vote for Concept A to avoid four-way intersection problems at Forrestal & Pirate.
Richard Stark
dimarstark@cox.net
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 9:40 AM
To:
Brian Campbell (Gmail)
Cc:
Cory Linder; Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Brian,
Good to hear! Thanks for the feedback and thanks for attending the workshop on Wednesday.
Matt
From: campbell.rpv [mailto:campbell.rpv@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:49 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Matt, I spoke to their annual meeting at Ladera Linda tonight and everybody was very happy with the direction
that you and your team have taken the design of the project.
Brian
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Waters <MattWkKpvca.gov>
Date: 4/27/17 5:24 PM (GMT -08:00)
To: "R. Gene Dewey" <rgdeweykcox.net>
Cc: "Jerry Duhovic<CouncilmanDuhovickhotmail.com>"<CouncilmanDuhovickhotmail.com>, 'Brian
Campbell (Gmail)" <campbell.rpvkgmail.com>, Ann Weinland <annweinlandkgmail.com>, Bill Gussman
<wgusscox.net>, "Georgette Jenkins:" <origamigkgmail.com>, "Judy Yousse£" <julysaaol.com>, Kate
Nash <kate.nashkme.com>, "Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodichkgmail.com>" <mickeyrodichkgmail.com>,
Terri Shary <terriksharLhospitality.com>, Tom Karen Smith <thomash.smithngmail.com>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Gene,
Thanks for coming to the meeting last night and for being an active participant -wouldn't have expected
anything less. Glad to hear that you and other attendees were pleased with the concepts we presented.
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Thanks also for emailing all of your thoughtful comments about basketball location, playgrounds, concept A
preference, parking, restrooms, and other issues. I assure you that your comments and concerns will definitely
be considered in the formation of a recommended design for Council's consideration, and your email will be
attached to that report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Matt
From: R. Gene Dewey [mailto:r d�ygcox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:46 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW(& vca.gov>
Cc: Jerry Duhovic <CouncilmanDuhovickhotmail.com><CouncilmanDuhovic&hotmail.com>; Brian
Campbell (Gmail) <campbell.rpvkgmail.com>; Ann Weinland <annweinlandkgmail.com>; Bill Gussman
<wguss(&ox.net>; Gene Dewey <rgdeweygcox.net>; Georgette Jenkins: <origamiq@ mail.com>; Judy
Youssef: <julysagaol.com>; Kate Nash <kate.nash@,me.com>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodichggmail.com>
<mickeyrodichgamail.com>; Terri Shary <terrinsharyhospitality.com>; Tom Karen Smith
<thomash. smithk email. com>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Thanks Matt, Corry and P & R Staff !
Most people I talked to after the meeting were as pleased as I am about the concepts you presented for the
Ladera Linda Park.
I have a couple of comments:
The upper playground next to the paddle tennis courts gets plenty of use. It is fairly new, ADA compliant, I am
sure it would cost in excess of $ 500 K to replace it.
The Basketball courts need to stay where they are so families can watch children of all ages at the same time.
The court does not get a lot of use now. The space west of the paddle tennis courts could be space for a volley
ball court, double as a bocce ball court or accommodate some old fashion horseshoes pits.
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I prefer concept A as it minimizes the disturbance with respect to access and keeps the low key profile.
The lower playground area and basketball court need rest rooms closer to that area. Often grandparents are
watching their grandchildren and that would be a long walk for them or a child in distress.
Parking on Forrestal should be considered as part of the project. Not only to handle large occasional events at
the park, but somewhere for people who are walking the trails in the preserve to park on the weekends .
Finally a security camera in the area would be a great addition.
Thanks again for taking a course of action that will please most in our community of Ladera Linda.
Gene Dewey
Vigilance Dr, RPV
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Matt Waters
From:
campbell.rpv <campbell.rpv@gmail.com>
Sent:
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:49 PM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Matt, I spoke to their annual meeting at Ladera Linda tonight and everybody was very happy with the direction
that you and your team have taken the design of the project.
Brian
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Date: 4/27/17 5:24 PM (GMT -08:00)
To: "R. Gene Dewey" <rgdewey@cox.net>
Cc: "Jerry Duhovic <CouncilmanDuhovic@hotmail.com>" <CouncilmanDuhovic@hotmail.com>, "Brian
Campbell (Gmail)" <campbell.rpv@gmail.com>, Ann Weinland <annweinland@gmail.com>, Bill Gussman
<wguss@cox.net>, "Georgette Jenkins:" <origamiq@gmail.com>, "Judy Youssef:" <julysa@aol.com>, Kate
Nash <kate.nash@me.com>, "Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>" <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>,
Terri Shary <terri@sharyhospitality.com>, Tom Karen Smith <thomash.smith@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Hi Gene,
Thanks for coming to the meeting last night and for being an active participant -wouldn't have expected
anything less. Glad to hear that you and other attendees were pleased with the concepts we presented.
Thanks also for emailing all of your thoughtful comments about basketball location, playgrounds, concept A
preference, parking, restrooms, and other issues. I assure you that your comments and concerns will definitely
be considered in the formation of a recommended design for Council's consideration, and your email will be
attached to that report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Matt
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From: R. Gene Dewey [mailto:rgdewey@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:46 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Jerry Duhovic <CouncilmanDuhovic@hotmail.com> <CouncilmanDuhovic@hotmail.com>; Brian
Campbell (Gmail) <campbell.rpv@gmail.com>; Ann Weinland <annweinland@gmail.com>; Bill Gussman
<wguss@cox.net>; Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>; Georgette Jenkins: <origamiq@gmail.com>; Judy
Yousse£ <julysa@aol.com>; Kate Nash <kate.nash@me.com>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>
<mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Terri Shary <terri@sharyhospitality.com>; Tom Karen Smith
<thomash. smith@gmail.com>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Thanks Matt, Corry and P & R Staff !
Most people I talked to after the meeting were as pleased as I am about the concepts you presented for the
Ladera Linda Park.
I have a couple of comments:
The upper playground next to the paddle tennis courts gets plenty of use. It is fairly new, ADA compliant, I am
sure it would cost in excess of $ 500 K to replace it.
The Basketball courts need to stay where they are so families can watch children of all ages at the same time.
The court does not get a lot of use now. The space west of the paddle tennis courts could be space for a volley
ball court, double as a bocce ball court or accommodate some old fashion horseshoes pits.
I prefer concept A as it minimizes the disturbance with respect to access and keeps the low key profile.
The lower playground area and basketball court need rest rooms closer to that area. Often grandparents are
watching their grandchildren and that would be a long walk for them or a child in distress.
Parking on Forrestal should be considered as part of the project. Not only to handle large occasional events at
the park, but somewhere for people who are walking the trails in the preserve to park on the weekends .
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Finally a security camera in the area would be a great addition.
Thanks again for taking a course of action that will please most in our community of Ladera Linda.
Gene Dewey
Vigilance Dr, RPV
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 1:36 PM
To: R. Lauck
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Comments
Dear Bob and Donna Lauck,
Thank you for your email and for your kind words. Thank you also for sharing your opinions about a number of issues
including your preference for Plan A, the lower field play area (asphalt and grass), ADA access, and noise and
lighting. Your email will be shared with the design team and will be attached to the eventual report/recommendation to
City Council.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cDrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: R. Lauck [mailto:rlauck@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:57 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Comments
First of all thanks for the good work you all have put into developing this plan. I believe Plan A is the best of the two
options. Also, I relooked at the east side of the park from the basketball/volley ball/tetherball and play areas, and the
ball field to Forrestal Dr. Over the forty five years I have been in or traversed the park, my experience has been that that
area has probably been the most used of the areas in the park and accommodates the most activities of any area in the
park. The open area of the field is used regularly for a number of activities including group picnicking and numerous
field sports activities. I don't think that it matters much to the picnicking groups using the area that it isn't a regulation
size soccer field. And I think keeping the grass field (including the backstop) is more important than adding shrubbery.
would recommend that you save some money and keep that area as is. I do not think it is important to put the child
play areas together, but if that is important to you maybe it could be accommodated within the area opened up with the
removal of the classroom/bathroom building. Also, maybe there is another area you can put the ADA access that
wouldn't require changing the east end of the field. A walkway through the field breaks it up for sports and limits its
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use. If it must be there maybe the walkway could be along the north side of the field as close to the berm as possible or
on the south side close to the fence. Most walkers probably would be ok with walking in the grass.
And, as a general guideline in reworking the park, I would suggest that areas where there is the probability of more
noise or nighttime lighting should be set back from the Seaview side of the park and light poles, structures and buildings
should be limited in height so that they are not visible from the Seaview or Ladera Linda neighborhoods to the extent
possible.
Thanks again for your efforts.
Bob and Donna Lauck
4122 Dauntless Dr., Seaview
310-5412-4416
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:21 PM
To:
Jon Jenkins
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park master plan workshop feedback
Dear Mr. Jenkins,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
Proposal A, security, basketball courts, renovation options, and other issues will all be considered by the Project team as
it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that
Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattwgrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Jon Jenkins [mailto:jbjenkinsus@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 1:01 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park master plan workshop feedback
Hello,
If the city is dead set on doing a project to completely tear down and rebuild the LL park then plan A is the least
offensive.
Having the baskeball courts moved so much closer to a dozen, or more, homes in SeaView is really not a good
idea. They should be as close to Forrestal drive as possible. I feel that saving the existing paddle tennis courts
and having to work around them is false economy, considering how much money will be spent on this.
I know that the Homeowner's Association in Ladera Linda has asked the city in writing for and estimate
renovation cost of the existing park facilities. Talking with the LL HOA President on the night of the workshop
he told me that he hadn't received a response, nor a document with refurb costs.
That is really the only way we can make a conscientious decision if the cost of a complete rebuild is justified.
I would still like to see the infrastructure redone to whatever extent necessary and the existing buildings
renovated. The expense, time, and noise involved in tear down/rebuild will cause problems for a year or more.
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Additionally the lack of thought given to physical security, beyond some extra lighting, snakes me think we're
not fully focused on what matters the most.
I know that the HOA from Mediterania has stated they will "rally" their membership to try and force a
gymnasium and pool. The do NOT live near enough to the site to have to deal with the problems this will
cause. They are closer to Miraleste Middle School, but apparently don't want to use those facilities.
SeaView and Ladera Linda residents are wholly opposed to anything more than what the two plans presented in
the workshop show. Even less would be great.
I hike the trails around the LL Community center 3-5 days a week and there is constant evidence of people
drinking and doing drugs during the night - both at the park, on Forrestal, and in the Nature Preserve. Much
greater security will be required.
Thank you for your time.
Jon Jenkins
4121 Admirable Dr.
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:24 PM
To:
leila
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Dear Mike
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comment about leaving Ladera
Linda as it will be considered by the Project team as it moves forward. Your email will also be attached to that Council
staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: leila [mailto:lrev4@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:39 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Please leave Ladera Linda as it is. We like the way it is now. Do not waste money on it.
This will only attract crowds, parties, crime, burglaries, etc.
Thanks
mike
Virus -free. www.avast.com
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:07 AM
To: Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>
Cc: Cory Linder; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Meeting of April 26,2017
Hi Mickey,
First, congratulations on being the newly elected LL HOA President. Secondly, thanks for your continued involvement in
this important undertaking. The detailed responses and recommendations you provided below, including the overall
preference for Proposal A, are extremely helpful to us as we prepare a recommended design for Council's review and
consideration. As the group most directly affected by any changes to the park site, feedback from your HOA is
vital. Thanks again and I'll share your email with Cory, RFA and other project staff.
Please feel free to reach out with any additional questions, comments and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cbrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Kett"er.
From: Mickey Rodich [mailto:mickeyrodich@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:52 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Meeting of April 26,2017
Matt, I am the newly elected President of the Ladera Linda HOA. As a result of your Ladera Linda Park
meeting held on April 26,2017, during which you asked for a response as to preference of Concepts "A" or `B"
by all residents.The two options were presented to the membership at our annual meeting the next day. We
surveyed all those present at our Annual HOA meeting on April 27,2017 and also drafted the following email
and sent it to all of our residents not attending our Annual meeting:
"The residents of the Ladera Linda Homeowners Association would like to compliment the Parks and
Recreation Department and the Richard Fisher Associates for listening to the homeowner's concerns in
developing the two Concepts for the Park building locations.
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1. We would recommend Concept A for the Park configuration for the following reasons.
a. Retains the present entrance
b. The maintenance and storage building is not located in the main area of the park
c. Less hardscape (driveway)
2. Parking is not adequate
a. Suggest including 40 more perpendicular parking spaces along Forrestal Drive behind the existing gate
with a stairway into the park as part of the plan.
b. We would also add a second gate at the end of the new 40 parking places, so that the people using the
trails would park there leaving the main parking near the building for those using the park. It could also
be used for Ladera Linda overflow parking.
c. The Forrestal area could also be used for bus parking.
3. Basketball Courts
a. We agree that one court should be adequate,
b. Some residents would like the court to be with the children's play area so that families with different age
children can be together.
c. The location of the basketball court and the play area should take into consideration any noise into the
adjacent residential areas.
4. There should be an area where families or groups (under 15) can have a picnic.
5. Native plants should be used in the park where possible. Remember we still have a water problem.
6. As long as the butterfly garden is just plantings that attract butterflies we have no problem.
7. We agree in keeping the lower field small to preclude the use by sport leagues.
8. The facilities and layout of the building are fine.
a. We are concerned about the security of the building with all the potential hiding places, as presented, out
of view of any security inspection.
b. Views from inside of the meeting rooms are not a problem as the rooms are for community
meetings/classes and not public social events where views might be important."
As a result we have the following recommendation. We received numerous responses and all but one of them
preferred Concept "A". We also realize that further decisions will have to be made as the Plan progresses. Our
Mayor, Brian Campbell, was correct when he said that the input from the adjacent residents should carry much
more weight than other residents because they live next to the Park. We do not wish Linda Linda Park to be a
destination shown all over Social Media. Therefore Ladera Linda, as a community, has voted in favor of the
new Park project Concept "A" with the minor changes shown above.
Respectfully Submitted
Mickey Rodich
President: Ladera Linda Homeowners Association
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:08 PM
To:
Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>
Cc:
Matt Waters; Cory Linder
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Plan
Hi Mickey,
Thanks for the attending the workshop and for your involvement in this important project. Appreciated the kind words
and the "A" rating. We certainly appreciate the local community feedback; it was crucial to shaping the process and our
current proposed designs. I thought a lot of good comments came up at the workshop and I've received a steady stream
of emails since. Your comments on parking, Forrestal, views, security, and storage will all be considered as the process
moves forward and your email will be attached to the eventual report that goes to the City Council.
Thanks Again,
Matt
From: Mickey Rodich [mailto:mickeyrodich@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 5:40 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda Park Plan
I want to thank you, Corey, Dave, Staff and the Consultant for putting together a well thought out plan for the
new Ladera Linda Park. You deserve an "A" on your report cards. You have listened to our residents and the
City Council and have come up with 2 acceptable Concepts. Your proposed choice for a 9000 square foot
building is the same size our HOA proposed in the past. In my mind, this meeting was more or less an approval
of the Site Plan. There were questions asked that could not be answered because we are not yet in the final
phases of the overall Plan.
As I mentioned to you at the meeting, the Concepts allowed us to have discussions on various points of your
design. I would say that around 85% of the attendees were in favor of Concept A while 99% were in favor of
one of the two plans submitted. Once both Concept's were presented, the rest of the meeting was what I call knit
picking. Do they want a Butterfly Garden? Do they know what a butterfly garden really is? Where do they want
to locate the basketball courts? How many picnic tables do they want? Should they be located so that coastal
views are maximized? The building has too many nooks and crannies? Should the building be rotated 90* for
coastal views? Is there adequate parking? Are the restrooms located properly with regard to the playgrounds?
These are questions that will be answered as progress continues in the design stage
I think an important point that came up by the Consultant, at this meeting, was the potential for an additional
40 perpendicular parking spaces along the City Park property along Forrestal and behind the existing gate. This
would solve a number of problems. It would allow 40 parking spaces for Trail users, who would not take up
spaces at the Park site, while at the same time provide additional parking spaces when needed for the Ladera
Linda Park or buses bringing children to the Trails or the Learning Center. I would suggest adding a second
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identical gate, at the end of the 40 parking spaces, which will then still maintain the security of the soccer fields
and not allow autos, or trucks dropping debris to travel to the soccer fields.
I made a list of additional concerns expressed by attendees that can be addressed in your continuing design
process and they are as follows:
1) Will the new Park be completely fenced and locked up at night?
2) Will there be security cameras around the Park site?
3) Will the pedestrian access off Pirate be designed to provide security for pedestrians as well as control
traffic?
4) Will there be adequate storage, on site, for all Park activities as well as groups such as First Responders,
CERT, etc.?
5) Satisfy view concerns by rotating the building 90*, counterclockwise.
Again, I think the presentation you made at the meeting was well thought out and was received favorably by
just about every attendee. An important point brought up by our Mayor Brian Campbell, and I agree with him,
was that you should give much more weight to responses made by the residents adjacent to the Park; namely
Ladera Linda and Sea View than to those that are further away.
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:55 AM
To:
Anne Cruz
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Park Plan
Dear Ms. Cruz,
Thank you for your email and interest in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan process. Your comments about the Seaview
stairs, children's playground equipment and your preference for Proposal A will all be considered by the Project team as
it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that
Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Anne Cruz [mailto:cruzsanne@gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:43 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Plan
I am a resident of Seaview. I believe Plan A is acceptable. With both plans, I am pleased to see the stairs to Seaview will
be protected. We use those stairs to access the park all the time with our small children. Members of our
neighborhood with small children use the stairs regularly as do adults for walking and access to the park. The play
equipment looks great. Thanks.
i
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:29 PM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Cc: CC; Doug Willmore; Jon Spain; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park v. the greater community
Hi Sunshine,
Thanks for your email and comments. I'll share these with the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan project team as we put
together a recommended plan for Council's consideration. Your email will be included with the Council Staff report.
Thanks,
Matt
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:03 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWiIImore@rpvca.gov>; Jon Spain <Jon.Spain@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park v. the greater community
About horse trailer access to Ladera Linda Park
Hi Matt,
I have read some of the comments from the equestrian community. Given that Intrepid Drive and Forrestal
Drive "beyond the gate" are essentially level, I'm thinking that it should be a whole lot simpler to resolve the
"when is the gate open and when is it closed" issue than to design and build special accommodations on the
park site. Is this a Parks management challenge or a public roadways access challenge? Who is causing the "by
appointment only" glitches?
The Ladera Linda Park Site is not an island. Plans for the future need to address the use of
the adjacent roadways and the trail head amenities for the Forrestal Nature Reserve visitors. Is it going to take a
City Council decision on a Change Order of the Consultant's Contract? Or, is Staff going to acquire an
understanding of what "enhancements" mean to everyone.
RPV's somewhat recent tradition is that thoughtful work doesn't get done because it is not "in the
Budget". Now is the time of year for Staff to "brush up" on the City's Master Plans and get the neglected items
into the Budget and the Capital Improvements Plan.
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:57 PM
To:
Tracy Lin
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda park
Dear Tracy Lin,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments will all be
considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your
email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions and
concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Tracy Lin [mailto:tryamamo@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda park
Hi,
My name is Tracy Lin. I am an RPV resident and mother of three. I recently learned about the plans to redevelop ladera
Linda park and wanted you to know I am in support of either of the proposed plans. Our children are in need of open
outdoor places and with the recent influx of younger families in RPV, we need to be meeting our residents' needs. Thank
you for all your work for our city.
Sincerely,
Tracy Lin
5640 Whitecliff Dr
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:22 PM
To:
Amanda Wong
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Plan comments
Dear Ms. Wong,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. The project team made a concerted
effort to listen to the local community. Your comments and concerns about traffic, the entry location, and playground
equipment will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended alternative to be considered by the
City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let me know if you have any additional
questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Amanda Wong [mailto:kiwi_esq@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 11:12 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Plan comments
Matt,
Thanks for the community input. It sounds like you have really heard and attempted to address the community's
concerns and we appreciate that.
As I've mentioned at a couple of meetings, and at a city council meeting, as the parents of two young children, safety is
our primary concern.
TRAFFIC
We live on the corner of Pirate & Forrestal, and the things we see most often are: (1) speeding up and down Forrestal,
(2) 360 degree turns (and three-point turns) by cars going up or down Forrestal and coming out of Pirate, (3) people
stopping in the middle of the road at Pirate to use the mailbox, causing others to get frustrated and go around them, (4)
kids racing bikes down Pirate and straight across the road at the crossing.
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Plan B which calls for the driveway entrance to Ladera Linda to be situated directly across from Pirate Dr. would
dangerously increase the amount of traffic at this one point. It would create a wider turnaround point for drivers to
attempt their 360 degree turns and three point turns. We believe the driveway should remain where it is. What would
help is a couple of stop signs on Forrestal above and below Pirate. Plan B also results in a waste of usable space that is
taken up with a grassy knoll in the middle of the car park.
PLAYGROUND
Both plans situate a play structure at the south end and basketball courts at the north end. This makes it impossible for
parents with kids of different ages or interests who want to play on the structure and/or play basketball to watch them
at the same time. There is enough room on the grassy south end to situate one or two basketball courts near the play -
structure. It would really make the park more usable and practical for parents and kids if you could accommodate this.
Thanks,
Amanda Wong
Sent from my iPhone
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:41 PM
To:
stjude5@cox.net
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Plan
Dear Pam and Steve Geraghty,
Thank you for your sending in your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Your comments and concerns about
noise, basketball, and appropriate park usage will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended
alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let
me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f -----Original Message -----
From: stjude5@cox.net [mailto:stjude5@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Plan
Hi Matt,
My husband and I have lived in RPV for 36 years. It is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. We live in the Seaview
area and are frequent visitors/users of the Ladera Linda property. We enjoy the paddle tennis courts many times per
week and walk our dog on the trails and soccer fields. We have taken many classes at Ladera Linda over the years and
am very happy we have this facility in our city.
While we were unable to attend the meeting last week, my husband and I have reviewed the Ladera Linda Park Master
Plan and have a few concerns.
(1) Placing basketball courts next to the paddle tennis courts is very disruptive to the paddle tennis players inasmuch as
basketball games can be very loud (and rightfully so) and the constant bouncing of the ball right next to the courts is a
very big distraction. We have personally experienced people playing soccer on the paddle tennis courts (when the fields
were too wet to play on) right next to us and it was basically impossible for us to play paddle tennis. If there weren't so
many of the soccer players, we would have approached them but they outnumbered my husband and 1 (10 of them and
2 of us) and they were all men. Needless to say, our game was cut very short as we were very distracted by all of the
noise. They were also "abusing" the net and they obviously had no concern that it was not made for a soccer game.
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(2) Another concern is the fact that, even with the soccer crowd, there are times when I feel extra security is necessary.
Another instance involved soccer players sitting in a car with the engine running and the air conditioning running while
parked under a tree directly adjacent to the paddle tennis courts. One of our players asked the driver if he could
possibly move his car because it was very loud and we couldn't hear one another across the court. The man was rude
and said he was thinking about playing soccer and wasn't ready to move. It was quite bizarre and disheartening as we
were just trying to finish our game. With basketball courts there will be even more "out-of-town guests" that don't
show the same courtesy as do RPV and neighboring residents.
We have witnessed the crowds of people that flock to the Trump property on the weekends as we walk the trails and
are disgusted by the trash and items left on the grounds. There are also a lot of dog "droppings" that are regrettably
left behind. I have corrected visitors when they try to walk across the golf course instead of staying on the public trails
to no avail. Again, non-residents don't have the same concerns about our city.
In closing, we can't be everything to everyone and shouldn't try to be. There are many parks around town where one
can play basketball. Ladera Linda already has the soccer fields and from our front door we look at the back of a sign
(picture attached) that is covered with graffiti. We don't need to invite more of the same and we believe more paddle
tennis courts or even open space is a much better idea than basketball courts. Thank you for your time.
Pam & Steve Geraghty
4244 Dauntless Drive
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
(310) 377-9418
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 3:34 PM
To:
Yvetta Williams
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is
it not there?
Hi Yvetta,
The designs are more at the conceptual level at this point so they are not at that level of detail, yet. That said, I will
bring up the idea of a sink in the Discovery Room or adjacent storeroom with the design team. A restroom is located
just down the main hall from the Discovery Room.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Yvetta Williams [mailto:yvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is it not there?
Is there a sink with running water in the discovery room? Toilet facilities in that area??? Thanks Matt
Sent from my iPad
On May 2, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Matt Waters <MattWkn2vca.gov> wrote:
Hi Yvetta,
Thanks for your question. Happy to reply that yes, the Discovery Room is included in both
proposals. Please click on the link below and then click on "Floor Plan Study Draft 2017" to show the
building diagram which is the same for both proposals. Use your zoom buttons to enlarge the
image. The Discovery Room is in the upper right. The room is currently configured at 1026 SF which is
slightly larger than the existing room's 961 sf. Additionally, there is an adjacent 275 SF work space as
well. Below is a map of the diagram for your convenience.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
<image002.jpg>
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Matt
From: COX [mailto:vvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:11 AM
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To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is it not
there?
I didn't see an answer about the discovery room at LL. ?
Begin forwarded message:
From: COX <yvettawillkcox.net>
Date: April 27, 2017 at 4:51:31 PM PDT
To: mattwkEpvca.gov
Subject: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan.
Did I miss it or is it not there?
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Matt Waters
From: Yvetta Williams <yvettawill@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:48 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is
it not there?
Thanks. I can't read the writing of where it is it what is around it. I missed the room lay outs. Thanks for your
email. Yvetta
Sent from my iPad
On May 2, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Matt Waters <MattWkp2vca.gov> wrote:
Hi Yvetta,
Thanks for your question. Happy to reply that yes, the Discovery Room is included in both
proposals. Please click on the link below and then click on "Floor Plan Study Draft 2017" to show the
building diagram which is the same for both proposals. Use your zoom buttons to enlarge the
image. The Discovery Room is in the upper right. The room is currently configured at 1026 SF which is
slightly larger than the existing room's 961 sf. Additionally, there is an adjacent 275 SF work space as
well. Below is a map of the diagram for your convenience.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
<image002.jpg>
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Matt
From: COX [mailto:vvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:11 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is it not
there?
I didn't see an answer about the discovery room at LL. ?
Begin forwarded message:
From: COX <yvettawillkcox.net>
Date: April 27, 2017 at 4:51:31 PM PDT
To: mattw rrpvca.gov
Subject: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan.
Did I miss it or is it not there?
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:40 AM
To:
COX
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is
it not there?
Hi Yvetta,
Thanks for your question. Happy to reply that yes, the Discovery Room is included in both proposals. Please click on the
link below and then click on "Floor Plan Study Draft 2017" to show the building diagram which is the same for both
proposals. Use your zoom buttons to enlarge the image. The Discovery Room is in the upper right. The room is
currently configured at 1026 SF which is slightly larger than the existing room's 961 sf. Additionally, there is an adjacent
275 SF work space as well. Below is a map of the diagram for your convenience.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Matt
From: COX [mailto:yvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:11 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is it not there?
I didn't see an answer about the discovery room at LL. ?
Begin forwarded message:
i
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From: COX <yvettawillkcox.net>
Date: April 27, 2017 at 4:51:31 PM PDT
To: mattes e,rpvca.gov
Subject: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or
is it not there?
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Matt Waters
From: COX <yvettawill@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:25 AM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is
it not there?
Thanks for your answer Matt. Yvetta
On May 2, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Matt Waters <MattW( p2vca.gov> wrote:
Hi Yvetta,
The designs are more at the conceptual level at this point so they are not at that level of detail,
yet. That said, I will bring up the idea of a sink in the Discovery Room or adjacent storeroom with the
design team. A restroom is located just down the main hall from the Discovery Room.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Yvetta Williams [mailto:yvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I miss it or is it not
there?
Is there a sink with running water in the discovery room? Toilet facilities in that area??? Thanks
Matt
Sent from my iPad
On May 2, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Matt Waters <MattW(appvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Yvetta,
Thanks for your question. Happy to reply that yes, the Discovery Room is included in
both proposals. Please click on the link below and then click on "Floor Plan Study Draft
2017" to show the building diagram which is the same for both proposals. Use your
zoom buttons to enlarge the image. The Discovery Room is in the upper right. The
room is currently configured at 1026 SF which is slightly larger than the existing room's
961 sf. Additionally, there is an adjacent 275 SF work space as well. Below is a map of
the diagram for your convenience.
http://www.rpvca.gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
<image002.jpg>
Let me know if you have any questions.
i
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Thanks,
Matt
From: COX [mailto:vvettawill@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 8:11 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in either plan. Did I
miss it or is it not there?
I didn't see an answer about the discovery room at LL. ?
Begin forwarded message:
From: COX <yvettawillgcox.net>
Date: April 27, 2017 at 4:51:31 PM PDT
To: mattwgrpvca.gov
Subject: Ladera Linda plans. I didn't see the discovery room in
either plan. Did I miss it or is it not there?
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:41 PM
To: Vlaco, Jessica @ EI Segundo
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Plans
Hi Jessica,
Thanks for your email. I appreciate your involvement in this process and I certainly understand your concerns about
potential impact. While I don't believe it is feasible to arrange for a meeting with the designer at this stage, rest assured
that the issues you've raised at meetings, in your emails and during our phone call before the first workshop will all be
considered in depth by the team as we move forward to put together a plan for the Council's consideration.
Sincerely,
matt
From: Vlaco, Jessica @ EI Segundo [mailto:Jessica.Vlaco@cbre.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 5:28 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Plans
Matt,
First of all I must say that I am disappointed that I was not given the opportunity to meet with the designer either
before the first meeting in September or before they produced these two draft plans. My family and I will
undoubtedly be among the most impacted persons by the proposed changes at the Ladera Linda school site and yet
we were not identified as important stakeholders. At the September meeting I asked to be considered a stakeholder
and been given the opportunity to express my concerns with the designer before plans moved forward. I was never
given that opportunity. If there is a desire to meet now, I will certainly make myself available.
At this time I cannot support either plan. To propose any changes to the Ladera Linda school site (yes it is a school
site) without formulating a comprehensive plan to address and mitigate the ongoing traffic, parking and noise issues
we already face because of the increased use of the soccer fields by AYSO and the increased use of the trails is
unacceptable. My quality of life and privacy have already been diminished and without a comprehensive plan to
mitigate these problems, I believe the quality will only further deteriorate.
View should not be a feature of the community rooms. We don't need to add any features that will create a
demand for the use of these rooms for parties and social events. The only view that is of concern should be the
view that staff has of the park so that staff adequately oversee the use of the site. I feel that the location of the
building in both plans will not allow for any oversight of the playground and grass area. That is a similar problem to
what we currently face. Staff cannot see what is going on. And they don't really appear to get out enough to
observe who is present at the site.
Security was not addressed in either layout. That is a detail that is supposed to be worked out later but this should
be an integral part of any plan not something to be decided later. The safety and security of the users of the facility
as well as the surrounding neighborhoods are of paramount concern.
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Finally, I most strongly object to the creation of a second entrance at the park. This is supposedly an ADA
requirement but apparently there is no corresponding requirement to set aside any handicapped parking near this
proposed entrance. There was also no plan mentioned at the meeting to provide any parking for handicapped
persons. I guarantee you that if a handicapped person ever does visit the park, there will be no parking for them to
use near this new entrance. What the addition of this new entrance will do is encourage other visitors to park along
Forrestal and Pirate and Searaven. They will not have any reason to use the parking lot to access the proposed
walking path. This will be viewed as a nice shortcut. I request that the designers explore altering the grade at the
existing entrance in order to satisfy ADA requirements instead of creating a new entrance across the street from my
home. I feel strongly that the addition of a new entrance across the street from my home, in fact directly across
from my bedroom, will have a severely negative impact on my peace and privacy and potentially even my personal
security.
Thank you.
Jessica Vlaco
Ladera Linda resident
Jessica Vlaco I Consultant
CBRE Group, Inc. I Global Financial Reporting
100 N. Sepulveda Blvd Suite 1100 1 EI Segundo, CA 90245
T 310 606 5046
Jessica.Vlaco(o)cbre.com
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 11:13 AM
To:
Bill Gussman
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda Presentation
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Gussman,
Thank you both for attending Wednesday's workshop and thank you also for your kind words. I fully agree with you that
the current proposals reflect guidance and input from local residents, which is crucial to the success of any community
project such as this one. Your comments about the butterfly garden, shade trees, picnic table grouping, basketball court
re -location, parking and your general preference for proposal A are greatly appreciated and will be shared with the staff
design team and consultant as we work towards creating a recommended design for Council consideration. Thanks also
for your insights in the general feelings of the LL HOA following your meeting last night. Who is the new President, by
the way?
Please let me know if you have additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(c-)rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Bill Gussman [mailto:wguss@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:26 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Presentation
Hi Matt,
Myself and my wife attended the presentation given by you and your associates Wednesday night
for the new park. We have lived in Ladera Linda for 38 years and I am currently on the
homeowners board. I just wanted to say thank you for the thoughtful and patient discussion your
group presented. Also, for the way you took our suggestions from the previous meetings about the
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size of the structure and its intended use for the community as a whole. I for one am not worried
about the butterfly garden or how many corners are on the building. We are very pleased with the
addition of more shade trees to the park, giving a place for more of nature to join in with the
humans. The fact that the building is tucked back on the property and is not there for party use is
exactly what the community asked for. There were some concerns from the attendees about the
noise from the basketball court and distance from the children's playground. A possible thought
would be to move the half court down to the playground giving more room away from the edge of
the hill for Seaview residents and giving kids a court closer to the playground. The area where the
half court was could then have a grouping of picnic tables on "cobblestones" and be provided with
broken shade by a pergola structure. A few attendees mentioned that in regards to having a place
for things like cub scout functions.
The problem with parking can be considerably alleviated by making sure the gate on Forrestal is
opened on days with soccer and other large functions going on in the area. I often see cars parked
on Searaven, Pirate and down both sides of Forrestal and the gate is locked. Maybe with the new
hours and staffing that problem will greatly disappear.
I personally prefer Plan A because of the centrally located structure and restrooms, and the two
separate parking areas for functions. From my discussions with other homeowners both that night
and in our general membership meeting on Thursday night, that was the prevalent feeling of the
group. Many of the other small worries can be addressed even after the building has been erected
and the community gets a chance to use the facilities. Bench seating, etc..
Again, thanks for the productive meeting and taking our concerns into the design. I look forward to
further discussions.
Bill & Peggy Gussman
32487 Sea Raven Dr.
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Matt Waters
From:
Bill Gussman <wguss@cox.net>
Sent:
Friday, April 28, 2017 11:31 AM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
Re: Ladera Linda Presentation
Hi Matt,
I felt acknowledging all the groups hard work was the least I could do to say thanks.
The new president will be elected at the board meeting next month. I'll be out of town but left
strict instructions to keep my position as inconspicuous as possible!
Bill
From•. Matt Waters
Sent:Friday, April 28, 2017 11:12 AM
To: Bill Gussman
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Presentation
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Gussman,
Thank you both for attending Wednesday's workshop and thank you also for your kind words. I fully agree with you that
the current proposals reflect guidance and input from local residents, which is crucial to the success of any community
project such as this one. Your comments about the butterfly garden, shade trees, picnic table grouping, basketball court
re -location, parking and your general preference for proposal A are greatly appreciated and will be shared with the staff
design team and consultant as we work towards creating a recommended design for Council consideration. Thanks also
for your insights in the general feelings of the LL HOA following your meeting last night. Who is the new President, by
the way?
Please let me know if you have additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cDrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Bill Gussman [mailto:wguss@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:26 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Presentation
Hi Matt,
Myself and my wife attended the presentation given by you and your associates Wednesday night
for the new park. We have lived in Ladera Linda for 38 years and I am currently on the
homeowners board. I just wanted to say thank you for the thoughtful and patient discussion your
group presented. Also, for the way you took our suggestions from the previous meetings about the
size of the structure and its intended use for the community as a whole. I for one am not worried
about the butterfly garden or how many corners are on the building. We are very pleased with the
addition of more shade trees to the park, giving a place for more of nature to join in with the
humans. The fact that the building is tucked back on the property and is not there for party use is
exactly what the community asked for. There were some concerns from the attendees about the
noise from the basketball court and distance from the children's playground. A possible thought
would be to move the half court down to the playground giving more room away from the edge of
the hill for Seaview residents and giving kids a court closer to the playground. The area where the
half court was could then have a grouping of picnic tables on "cobblestones" and be provided with
broken shade by a pergola structure. A few attendees mentioned that in regards to having a place
for things like cub scout functions.
The problem with parking can be considerably alleviated by making sure the gate on Forrestal is
opened on days with soccer and other large functions going on in the area. I often see cars parked
on Searaven, Pirate and down both sides of Forrestal and the gate is locked. Maybe with the new
hours and staffing that problem will greatly disappear.
I personally prefer Plan A because of the centrally located structure and restrooms, and the two
separate parking areas for functions. From my discussions with other homeowners both that night
and in our general membership meeting on Thursday night, that was the prevalent feeling of the
group. Many of the other small worries can be addressed even after the building has been erected
and the community gets a chance to use the facilities. Bench seating, etc..
Again, thanks for the productive meeting and taking our concerns into the design. I look forward to
further discussions.
Bill & Peggy Gussman
32487 Sea Raven Dr.
2
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:52 PM
To:
Pam Andresen
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda project feedback
Dear Ms. Andresen,
Thank you for your email and interest in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan process. Your comments and concerns,
including your preference for Proposal B will all be considered by the Project team as it prepares a recommended
alternative to be considered by the City Council. Your email will also be attached to that Council staff report. Please let
me know if you have any additional questions and concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Pam Andresen [mailto:andresen.pam@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 5:05 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda project feedback
Thank you for giving the opportunity to provide feedback.
I believe it is important to maintain a functional and visually appealing park to support the neighborhoods on this area of
the hill. Prior to moving here, a local realtor told us this area doesn't always get the love like other areas in RPV. I am
also excited to have a nicer park close by. When my nine year old niece was here visiting on spring break, our neighbor
recommended the new park in San Pedro to take her. That disappointed me and made me sad as I have valuable home
with no valuable amenities nearby, this park will change that.
If I was forced to pick a plan, I would pick plan B however I do have a lot of concerns and recommendations with both.
-incorporate overflow parking on for a stall into this plan. For those in frequent events, like Easter, that additional
parking can be used as Ladera Linda park overflow. In addition it will also make parking better for the neighbors. If we
don't solve the parking problem while we are making the park better and inviting more people to use the park, that
would give neighbors near forestall more reason to complain and make an issue. Solve the problem once and for all and
incorporate as Ladera Linda overflow.
-having the two playground areas separated makes it difficult for families who need to watch over multiple age children.
I recommend having all the children play areas and one common area -to solve the concerns from neighbors about noise
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from basketball area, move the walking path to the perimeter. People walking, jogging and biking don't make a lot of
noise and those that want to walk for exercise won't have to go around the path 15 times to get a good distance in.
-ensure the walking path is wide enough and marked appropriately for bikers and walkers. Left and right lanes -ensure
that the buildings windows take advantage of the view. I understand that direction was given to attempt to minimize
usage of the building by purposely not making a good view from inside, however that could be done through policy.
Don't make a permanent decision by removing the view. We can always limit the number of people that use the facility
by the rules we set and enforce.
-1 like having one parking area versus two, if there are days where parking is challenged you may encourage more traffic
driving between the two lots.
Thank you
Pam Andresen
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:49 AM
To:
Cassie Jones
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Cassie,
No problem, I'll go ahead and share your email with the project team. Thanks for sending it in.
Matt
From: Cassie Jones [mailto:cassiej@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:17 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
I am sorry if this is late. With respect to the floor plans for the building, it doesn't seem to me that you are getting a very
useful building for the cost. The rooms are small and there is no kitchen facility. Not sure my tax dollars want to go to
build a few small meeting rooms when you have the opportunity to serve a larger segment of the neighborhood and the
community. That being said, it will be a step up from what is there currently!
Cassie Jones
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:32 PM
To: martycrna@cox.net
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Please forward to Councilman Misetich personal email
Hi Marty,
Absolutely, your email will be attached to the report that will be sent to Council for their review. Also, our project team
will consider your suggestions as we put together a recommended option for Council.
Thanks,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw anrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:53 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Please forward to Councilman Misetich personal email
Matt
I guess this mail should be included in your report.
Thanks
Marty
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Marty Foster <martycrnakcox.net>
Date: May 9, 2017 at 11:43:10 AM PDT
To: briancampbellkgmail.com, iduhovickhotmail.com, susanbrooksOlkyahoo.com,
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kenneth. dydak gmail. c om
Subject: Please forward to Councilman Misetich personal email
Mayor and City Council Members:
The most important function of government is providing for citizen safety.
In considering our city's wants vs needs, a major portion of that provision of safety must apply to
our roads. You all know this better than most. Any observer with any time spent in our city over
the last many years must conclude that PVDS has not improved and in fact has worsened.
(Actually, at this writing a major repair has been done but look for that to deteriorate in a few
weeks.)
Apparently, nothing can be done to stabilize the Portuguese Bend landslide. The road through the
slide area poses danger to pedestrian, cyclist and motorist.
The cost of maintenance of PVDS is a never ending drain on the taxpayer.
The cost of a more permanent solution might ultimately save money along with providing for
safer transit through the city.
The current projects for city hall and parks are wants rather than needs.
In particular, the plan for Ladera Linda is expensive, apparently unfunded and has no budget cap.
Some tables, benches, resurfaced basketball courts would provide nicely for what most need
from their local park. The city staff, who are a very talented group of people, have tried with
some success to respond to resident wants and the newest plans have a much lower profile than
what was originally proposed.
Much discussion of the LL plan concerned parking. The number of needed parking spaces is
infinite. As one resident said'if you build it, they will come'. The loss of home value for Del
Cerro residents is unrecoverable due to the onslaught of visitors, most of whom are not from
RPV, accessing PVLC trails.
Please prioritize city resources in a way that is responsive to safety needs ahead of expensive
projects that will change the character of our city forever.
Share this mail if you deem appropriate with staff.
All my best wishes to each of you.
With gratitude for your service
Marty Foster
Sent from my iPad
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:24 PM
To:
Jessica Vlaco
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Questions
Hi Jessica,
Thanks for your email. The use of this banner was not authorized. There was a public docent -led hike that was
permitted by the City and I believe that the Docents put up this banner as a means of letting attendees know where to
turn to join the hike. The City approves standard size banners that are attached at allowed locations such as the fence
near the entrance to Ladera Linda Park or at City Hall. I presume you've seen some of those regular rectangular banners
at Ladera Linda.
Directional/location signage for a special event is permitted during the time of the event, but it must be located at the
actual site of the event, not in the public right of way as indicated in your picture, and they must be standard approved
size. We will follow-up on this matter. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Regarding the group using the lower field at Ladera Linda on April 30th, I checked with LL Supervisor Mona Dill and this
was not a reserved or permitted use. From your description, it sounds more like a drop-in group using the park on a
casual basis. They would not have exclusive right to the park or to a section of the park. I understand your frustration in
not being able to use the park grounds. If a group is dominating the area, please bring it to Park staff's attention. As
promised, we will be looking at park usage policies as part of the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan process.
This email will be considered by the City's Master Plan team and will be attached to the eventual Staff report that will be
presented to City Council.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
From: vlacoS [mailto:vlacoS@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 1:42 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Questions
Hi Matt,
On Saturday April 29th I saw this large banner displayed at the bottom of Forrestal around 8:30am. When I
arrived home at 11:30 the banner had been removed. I inquired of my neighbors and they told me the banner
was there because of a scheduled docent -led hike. Naturally I object to the placement of this type of
commercial -sized banner announcing activites in or near our community. This is more appropriate at a
commercial location like a car dealership. Did you authorize the use of this banner? If not, did you have a
conversation with the group who placed it there and will you have similar conversations with other groups who
do similar activites? I don't believe it should be allowed.
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My second set of questions concerns the group that occupied the Ladera Linda park for the entire day on
Sunday, April 30th. While this was somewhat of a reprieve from the normal adult soccer games that take place
every Sunday from 10-12, their presence there all day prevented my son and his friends from using the park that
day. They had planned on playing some volleyball on the grass using a portable volleyball net. Were you aware
of the use of the park that Sunday? Had they reserved the park for the entire day? If so, how can we residents
find out in advance that the facilities have been reserved so that we can make alternate plans? If not, how will
you try and control or limit the length of drop-in use so that the park can be shared by more people?
Thanks,
Jessica Vlaco
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Matt Waters
From: Lawrence Paul <Ipaul@mac.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:14 PM
To: Matt Waters
Cc: R. Gene Dewey
Subject: Re: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Matt,
Thank you very much for these. I am currently in Toronto and heading to Washington DC very early tomorrow
morning.
I did send you a couple other comments yesterday... (did you get them)?
I will review these as soon as I can. I am back on Friday afternoon.
Best regards,
Larry
On May 10, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Matt Waters <MattWk!pvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Gene and Larry,
Sorry about the delay in getting you these documents. Even though the comment period ends today,
feel free to send me any additional comments by early next week and I will include them with the rest of
the comments.
Attached are the 2011 Wildan Report, the Thermographic Report, and a May 3, 2011 report. I did not
find any Staff Report dated 2-22-11. The May report was the nearest one that addressed LL. I also sent
a revised 2014 Infrastructure Report Card -not sure if you have this one. Still looking for the 1966-67
docs your requested.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:24 AM
To: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewev@cox.net>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Thank you very much I appreciate receiving this. If you can, please also include the:
i
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"Certified Thermography Reports for Planning Department Building and Ladera Linda Community
Center, 3/2010, California IR"
Best regards,
Larry
On May 5, 2017, at 9:51 AM, R. Gene Dewey <rgdeweykcox.net> wrote:
Thanks Matt,
Ladera Linda is summarized on page 11 of this report. I think and earlier study outlines
the estimated cost of repairing the infrastructure of Ladera Linda. Would it be in the
studies below?
"Ladera Linda Facility Inspection Report, 6/29/2011, Willdan •Ladera Linda Facility Pr
eliminary Inspection Report, 2/22/2011, City Staff Report •Ladera Linda Architectural/
MEP/Landscape Plans, 1966-1967, Kistner, Wright & Wright"
Gene
From: Matt Waters [mai Ito:MattW@rpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:19 PM
To: Lawrence Paul; R. Gene Dewey
Subject: RE: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Hi Gene and Lawrence.
Below is a link to the 2013 Infrastructure Report Card. The report gives
preliminary cost estimates for replacing the existing building. The estimates are
4 years old and are for the existing building square footage, not for the reduced
size of the current two proposals. I hope this was the document you were
looking for.
Matt
Click here to see the City of RPV Infrastructure Report Card 2013. The Ladera
Linda Analysis is in the "Public Buildings" Section of the Report, pages 53-58.
From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:07 PM
To: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewev@cox.net>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Thank you.
For the record, there was a typo below.
it is:
1paul e,mac.com
Much appreciated.
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Best regards,
Larry
On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:05 PM, R. Gene Dewey
<rgdeweYkcox.net> wrote:
Hi Matt,
I can't find the cost study for refurbishing the old buildings a LL that was
done several years ago. I have seen it. If you could have someone dig it
out or send the link to Ipauil@mac.com, I would appreciate it. He was
concerned that this study wasn't updated as part of the master plan.
Gene
<RPV IR Report Final
(2).pdf5<RPVCCA_SR_2011_05_03_11_ Lease _Ladera_Linda.pdf><willdan LL
report.pdf><Report Card Revised MT 20140514 with Eval Costs.pdf>
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:57 PM
To: R. Gene Dewey
Cc: Lawrence Paul; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Hi Gene,
Thanks for your perspective and thoughts on how the community at Ladera Linda views the project. Not surprised that
there are differences of opinions on various aspects, even on the whole nature of the project, but the amount of
feedback and involvement from local residents like yourself has been extraordinary. There's a great deal of work still to
be done, but it is truly helpful and vital to the success of the project to have such a high level of civic interest.
Matt
From: R. Gene Dewey [ma iIto: rgdewey@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:39 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Lawrence Paul <Ipaul@mac.com>
Subject: RE: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Thanks Matt,
I remember seeing all of these reports. While there are a few people that have been outspoken in our neighborhood
about keeping and refurbishing the present facilities, the overwhelming majority of those who have expressed an
opinion are in favor of a new structure along the lines of Alternative A. There are differences of opinions as to the
relocation of playgrounds and basketball courts. These facilities have been in place for years and the neighborhood has
grown to accept them as they are. The playgrounds are in excellent shape . Rearranging everything may cause more
problems down the road with respect to new locations for noise, etc.
Gene
From: Matt Waters [mai Ito: MattWOrpvca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:52 PM
To: Lawrence Paul; R. Gene Dewey
Subject: RE: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Hi Gene and Larry,
Sorry about the delay in getting you these documents. Even though the comment period ends today, feel free to send
me any additional comments by early next week and I will include them with the rest of the comments.
Attached are the 2011 Wildan Report, the Thermographic Report, and a May 3, 2011 report. I did not find any Staff
Report dated 2-22-11. The May report was the nearest one that addressed LL. I also sent a revised 2014 Infrastructure
Report Card -not sure if you have this one. Still looking for the 1966-67 docs your requested.
Thanks,
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Matt
From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:24 AM
To: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Thank you very much I appreciate receiving this. If you can, please also include the:
"Certified Thermography Reports for Planning Department Building and Ladera Linda Community Center, 3/2010,
California IR"
Best regards,
Larry
On May 5, 2017, at 9:51 AM, R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey_kcox.net> wrote:
Thanks Matt,
Ladera Linda is summarized on page 11 of this report. I think and earlier study outlines the estimated
cost of repairing the infrastructure of Ladera Linda. Would it be in the studies below?
"Ladera Linda Facility Inspection Report, 6/29/2011, Willdan •
Ladera Linda Facility Preliminary Inspection Report, 2/22/2011, City Staff Report •
Ladera Linda Architectural/MEP/Landscape Plans, 1966-1967, Kistner, Wright & Wright"
Gene
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW@rpvca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:19 PM
To: Lawrence Paul; R. Gene Dewey
Subject: RE: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Hi Gene and Lawrence.
Below is a link to the 2013 Infrastructure Report Card. The report gives preliminary cost
estimates for replacing the existing building. The estimates are 4 years old and are for the
existing building square footage, not for the reduced size of the current two proposals. I hope
this was the document you were looking for.
Matt
Click here to see the City of RPV Infrastructure Report Card 2013. The Ladera Linda An
is in the "Public Buildings" Section of the Report, pages 53-58.
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From: Lawrence Paul [mailto:lpaul@mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:07 PM
To: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Study to rehab old LL buildings
Thank you.
For the record, there was a typo below.
it is:
1paulgmac.com
Much appreciated.
Best regards,
Larry
On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:05 PM, R. Gene Dewey <radeweyg ox.net> wrote:
Hi Matt,
I can't find the cost study for refurbishing the old buildings a LL that was done several
years ago. I have seen it. If you could have someone dig it out or send the link
to Ipauil@mac.com, I would appreciate it. He was concerned that this study wasn't
updated as part of the master plan.
Gene
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:24 PM
To: Cassie Jones
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Cassie,
Thanks for your emails and thoughts about the Ladera Linda building floor plan and overall size. The building square
footage was one of the most discussed aspects of the projects from the very start and the proposed size reflects
significant input from the community and City Council. I agree with you that either proposed plan would be an
enhancement compared to the buildings that are currently on site. I'll certainly share your email with our consultant and
project team.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Cassie Jones [mailto:cassiej@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:00 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
I am sorry if this is late. With respect to the floor plans for the building, it doesn't seem to me that you are getting a very
useful building for the cost. The rooms are small and there is no kitchen facility. Not sure my tax dollars want to go to
build a few small meeting rooms when you have the opportunity to serve a larger segment of the neighborhood and the
community. That being said, it will be a step up from what is there currently!
Cassie Jones
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:15 PM
To:
sharon yarber
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for your email about horse trailer turning radius. I'll forward your email to our consultant and other members of
the project team for discussion.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(aD-rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291
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From: sharon yarber [mailto:momofyago@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:05 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
Hi Matt,
I think you asked Mel Colbert about what turning radius is necessary for a truck pulling a horse trailer. I am no
math whiz so cannot respond in radius terms, but can tell you that it depends on the size of trailer and whether it
is a bumper pull or gooseneck. If you want to get an idea of a size that would be a minimum I would
recommend you go visit Peninsula Riding Club in the gated community off Highridge and see if you can
measure their driveway. It is not great but can work with a very experienced driver of trailers. A three point turn
has to be utilized there for a larger rig so it is certainly less than optimal. The dirt parking area behind the
existing buildings works really well. I hope the City will incorporate trailer parking facilities in the design of the
new community center.
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:18 PM
To: Mona Dill; Cory Linder
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: FW: Pirate & Forrestal intersection
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This time with the photos --
-----Original Message -----
From: Amanda Wong [mailto:kiwi_esq@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:05 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Pirate & Forrestal intersection
> Hi Matt,
> Here are a few of the more than a dozen cars I saw making u -turns on Forrestal, stopping in the middle of the street to
unload hikers (resulting in traffic backing up and other cars driving into the oncoming traffic lane to pass), and cars
driving BACKWARDS down Forrestal for who knows what reason, in just 3 hours working on my front yard on Monday
(Memorial Day). I wish I was quicker with my camera, but I think you get the idea.
> Amanda Wong
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:15 PM
To:
Amanda Wong
Cc:
Mona Dill; Cory Linder; Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Pirate & Forrestal intersection
Dear Ms. Wong,
Thank you for sharing these photos and I'm sorry for any inconvenience you experienced. I am well aware that Preserve
access and parking is an ongoing issue and challenge for local residents. I will certainly share your email and photos with
Ladera Linda Supervisor Mona DITI and will discuss this with the entire Ladera Linda Park Master Plan team.
Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt
-----Original Message -----
From: Amanda Wong [mailto:kiwi_esq@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:05 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Pirate & Forrestal intersection
> Hi Matt,
> Here are a few of the more than a dozen cars I saw making u -turns on Forrestal, stopping in the middle of the street to
unload hikers (resulting in traffic backing up and other cars driving into the oncoming traffic lane to pass), and cars
driving BACKWARDS down Forrestal for who knows what reason, in just 3 hours working on my front yard on Monday
(Memorial Day). I wish I was quicker with my camera, but I think you get the idea.
> Amanda Wong
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Monday, May 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To:
Minas Yerelian; CC
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
HI Minas,
Thanks for your email. The two proposed plans for Ladera Linda are both conceptual, so they don't drill down to the
level of detail you're asking about regarding the "definite status" of trees. Our consultant's arborist did note that the
majority of trees on the park property are in poor condition. Details about tree removal, number and species of
additional trees to be planted, will be addressed when and if Council approves moving this project forward.
I'll share your email with the project team and our consultant.
Thanks,
Matt
From: Minas Yerelian [mailto:yerelian@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:22 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Ladera Linda
Hello Matt
In regards to lower Hess Park what is the definite status in regards to the trees that are there (Bird sanctuary
Hope) and how many new new trees will be planted, the money per square foot of improvement on this
project is enormous (hope not all the money will be spent saving some for maintenance) let alone the
maintenance that is needed for the upkeep. In regards to Native Plants let say if native plants are native to a
location Hess Park or not they grow on their own you do not need to plant them, if you plant native plants that
do not belong you Will need to maintain thein that is extra cost planting a plant that grows on its own with
minimum upkeep will be a better choice.
Thank You
Minas
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Matt Waters <MattW(a,rpvca. gov> wrote:
Hi Minas,
Thanks for coming last night and for being an active participant and thanks for the compliment -glad you
thought we did a good job.
Thanks also for emailing all of your thoughtful comments below about trees, basketball, maintenance, noise,
lighting, and rural atmosphere; I assure you that your comments and concerns will definitely be considered in
the formation of a recommended design for Council's consideration, and your email will be attached to that
report. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Thanks,
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-----Original Message-----
rrorri: Minas Yerelian [mailtowerelianmgmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:54 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@jpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
Good presentation
KEEP RURAL SEMI RURAL ATMOSPHERE. Be mindful of keeping all parks RURAL
1- Noise effect on the neighbors.
2- Basket court and all sport activity must be moved to the rt side away from the residential area closer to
forestall and move the building to the left to make sure of no noise impact.
3- Plan B is better use of real estate (Wilson park).
4- (Trees) replace all trees and more.
5 -Minimum lightning.
6- The lowest maintenance possible ( less $) NATURAL (let the grass and wild plants grow and die seasonally
that is RURAL.
Good job.
Thank you
Minas Yerelian
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From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:19 AM
To:
Barbara Scherba
Cc:
Matt Waters
Subject:
RE: Lasers Linda renovation
Dear Mark and Barbara Scherba,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the Ladera Linda Master Plan. Your support for playground equipment,
which was a significant component of each of the two alternative designs, will be considered by the project team as we
move forward toward a recommended final design. That design will be made available to the public and will be
considered by the City Council at a future meeting, date to be determined.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
-----Original Message -----
From: Barbara Scherba [mailto:bscherba@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:09 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Lasers Linda renovation
We are in favor of the plan to redesign Ladera Linda. Playground equipment is absolutely necessary!
Mark and Barbara Scherba
3716 Coolheights Drive
RPV
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From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 2:42 PM
To: cprotem73@cox.net; mizie@cox.net; Matt Waters; Charles Eder; Katie Lozano
Subject: Fwd: Merging trails, parks and Preserve Plans
Apparently what we need is a vocabulary lesson. "Criteria" is something very different from
"standards". In the interest of planning, the Ladera Linda Consultant should identify a TYPE of trail
he is designing for any unpaved pathways shown on the "concept" plans.
And, anyone proposing any work on the trails in the PV Nature Preserve should do the same. Public
Works missed this for the second project at Sunnyside Ridge Road. Poor communications makes for
poor work products. ....S
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com
To: b.camp@cox.net
Sent: 2/6/2016 3:47:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: Merging trails, parks and Preserve Plans
Hi Brian,
This note from Katie is the closest I have been able to get to an admission that the PV Nature
Preserve is both separate and above the plans which apply to the rest of the City. Have you
any thoughts about that? ...S 310-377-8761
-----Original Message----- .
From: Katie Lozano <KatieL@rpvca.gov>
To: "SunshineRPV@aol.com" <SunshineRPV@aol.com>
Subject: RE: Merging trails, parks and Preserve Plans
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:39:02 +0000
Hello Sunshine,
Thank you for this information. I am continuing to look into your question. My understanding is that there are
no trail standards for trails within the Nature Preserve, but I am continuing to look into your question. Mary also
forwarded me your question, and I will be contacting you soon with more info.
Thank you,
Katie
From: SunshineRPV@aol.com [mailto:SunshineRPV@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 7:28 PM
To: Katie Lozano <KatieL@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Merging trails, parks and Preserve Plans
Hi Katie,
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Attached is the TRAILS DEVELOPMENT / MAINTENANCE CRITERIA of July 4, 2012 which the
RPV City Council approved to be integrated into the RPV Trails Network Plan "update". Also attached
is the Western States Trail Foundation's Position Statement in support of CA Senator Boxer's 560. The
opening paragraph of the CRITERIA explains what it is hoped to be used for. Trails are linear
parks. There are trails in parks, forests, preserves and monuments. My hope is that RPV's Public
Works Department, Rec & Parks Department and Community Development Department can all use this
same "Bible". Step by step, for the benefit of this community and volunteers all over the world.
My question to you is which trail TYPE does everyone want to have when the work on the Toyon Trail
is completed? My point is that if nobody has described "The Work" as specifically as the CRITERIA,
we are likely to get something which vaguely resembles the last work which the new work is supposed
to repair. What we really need is the CRITERIA to be established for what is desired in the future, trail
connection by trail segment.
Please tell me what you think. SUNSHINE 310-377-8761
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:33 AM
To: SunshineRPV@aol.com
Cc: judyfrankel@gmail.com; Matt Waters
Subject: LL Master plan link
Hi Sunshine and Ms. Frankel,
My apologies, but I just heard Sunshine's voice mail from Wednesday asking for the link to the Ladera Linda Master plan
web page. This page includes links to the two park proposals and building diagrams. Because I didn't get back to you by
the Wed. submission deadline, please feel free to submit any comments by Monday, May 15.
http://www.rpvca-gov/982/Ladera-Linda-Park-Master-Plan
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cD-rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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Matt Waters
From: Lrev <Irev4@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:47 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Ladera Linda
We like Ladera Linda as it is right now.
We don't want traffic, noise, attract crime and unwanted crowd.
Thank you.
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Matt Waters
From: Doug Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:53 PM
To: sharon yarber; Matt Waters
Cc: CC; Michael Throne; Ara Mihranian
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
This is a great point, Sharon, and we will take a look at the plans and look for possible ways to incorporate.
From: sharon yarber [mailto:momofyago@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:20 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Michael Throne <MichaelT@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda
Thanks, Matt, but this is pretty far down the road and one of the two designs is likely to be approved. Neither
accommodates horses so I don't know where consideration will result in any incorporation. Frankly I have only
trailered there once .because I have great access to trails where I board my horses. We parked in the dirt lot at
LL and it was great. Easy in and out because there was adequate turn around area. Now where are equestrians
supposed to park their trailers? On Forrestal past the property nearer to the trailhead?
On May 10, 2017 4:11 PM, "Matt Waters" <MattWnao,rpvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Sharon,
Your comments and concerns about equestrian accommodation as part of the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan will be
considered closely as the process moves forward. As I mentioned in a previous email, the focus of the two proposals is
on the proposed new community center building and the parklands. There was considerable public comment on
Forrestal Reserve access and parking at the public workshop and during the comment period.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
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30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@rpvca.pov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: sharon yarber [mailto:momofvago@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Ara Mihranian <AraM@rpvca.gov>; Michael Throne <MichaelT@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda
All,
I have been too swamped with work and personal affairs to study this closely. Suffice to say that whatever your
plans ultimately include, it is important to be certain that they include facilities that will accommodate
equestrians. We need places where a trailer can get in and out, water, horse tie ups and places for equestrians to
rest themselves and their mounts. This is a trailhead for all users and as you consider the needs of all, please
remember to include equestrians and persons in the ALL group.
Thank you.
Sharon Yarber
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:04 AM
To:
Matt Waters
Subject:
FW: City Manager Comment on Ladera Linda Item:
From: Doug Willmore
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:02 PM
To: Mickey Rodich <mickevrodich@gmail.com> <mickevrodich@gmail.com>; Gabriella Yap <gvap@rpvca.gov>; Cory
Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: City Manager Comment on Ladera Linda Item:
Mickey:
Your emails bring to mind the famous quote from Mark Twain: ""It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
I apologize that we have apparently been unable to adequately answer your questions so that you are clear. But, I have
to say that this is compounded with assertions that you make that just aren't true. Your very first email in this string
starts with assumptions that are untrue. As my Dad always told me, "everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not
to their own set of facts." You can believe that I am deliberately misrepresenting things to the Council and to the public
(for what purpose??), but that doesn't make it so. It just means you believe something that has no basis in fact.
Moreover, there is not a single instance that someone can point to where I have done so.
First, let me try and be very clear: As my staff and I have stated, the $350,000 proposed budget item for Ladera Linda is
for detailed architectural/construction drawings. It is for nothing else. I know you don't believe that, but that is what
the budgeted number is for. The drawings will include not only the architectural and construction drawings for the
proposed community center building but for the entire park. This includes grading, utility, and landscape (etc.) plans for
the entire site. RFA was never contracted to provide these detailed construction drawwings. Typically, in my experience
(having overseen more than $113 worth of new construction of public buildings), these types of architectural drawings
are approximately 6% to 10% of the estimated cost of construction for public buildings like this. It appears that you
think it should be something different and that you "know" something about designing and constructing public
buildings. Yet, I would speculate that your knowledge or belief about the architectural services profession appears to be
out of date or in some other industry. For example, even in the residential field, I know of 4500 square foot homes being
built now with $300,000+ in architectural fees. If an RFP is ever issued (based on Council direction), the staff will share
all of the bid amounts that we receive from the RFP with the Council and the public as we always do. The $350,000
budget number is simply a budget estimate and placeholder in the budget to enable the City to proceed with a Request
for Proposal (RFP) where a more detailed cost of the drawings will be bid. The City Council subcommittee will review
any RFP before it goes out. And any eventual contract for services will, of course, have to be approved by the City
Council.
Second, you reference the contract and it does call for RFA to prepare a "Master Plan -level Estimate of Probable
Construction Costs for the overall park improvements." And, "Costs for new architectural improvements (community
bldg.) will be a part of this Cost Estimate work.". RFA continues to finalize its work with the City by finalizing the overall
master plan design concept approved by Council. This will include a general construction budget estimate. This is a
general budget estimate, not a detailed construction -ready cost estimate. In quoting my verbal response at the Council
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meeting, I don't know the question I was responding to, but I took it to mean "detailed construction costs". I also took it
to mean that RFA are not the ones providing a budget estimate for the City. We prepare our budget. And that is why I
specifically stated that in my comment. Whether I misunderstood the question or not, I am not sure. But, more precise
construction cost estimates can only be generated during the construction/architectural document phase.
Third, the proposal from RFA is different than what is in the contract due to negotiations to reduce the fees. You should
go by the contract (which we have sent you) and not the proposal.
Fourth, you also reference the RFA proposal that states "The Project Architect will also prepare a refined Floor Plan
exhibit and develop Conceptual Exterior Elevation Drawings to communicate the preliminary design concept for the
Community building. The final master pian documents will include notes that will indicate proposed finishes and
materials for the exterior of the building". RFA has prepared preliminary design concepts for the building and will
provide some information on materials and finishes for the building and the overall park design. There is nothing that
RFA has done, nor that I have stated, or that my staff has stated, that us different than what their scope of work states in
their contract. The above quote that you have cited is what RFA has done and is finalizing and it is what you and the
Council have reviewed.
Doug
From: Mickey Rodich [mailto:mickeyrodich@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:22 PM
To: Gabriella Yap <Ryap@rpvca.gov>
Cc: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: City Manager Comment on Ladera Linda Item:
Thank you for your response. I was responding to comments the City Manager made at the June 6th CC
meeting to which I was not allowed to comment.
Your response to my email contains some differences with the actual facts. I attended the Parks Dept.
meetings, held in May of 2016, to review the Final Proposals submitted by the two competing architectural
firms, Richard Fisher Associates and Gonzalez Goodale Architects. The Parks Dept. chose Richard Fisher
Associates proposal for the Ladera Linda Community Park Master Plan Project. I have a copy of their Proposal
in my possession and it does not agree with the comments made by our City Manager's email comments as to
what is included in their Proposal. Richard Fisher Architects proposal clearly states their responsibilities in Task
4-D; Finalize Preferred Preliminary Master Plan Alternative. It states "The Project Architect will also prepare a
refined Floor Plan exhibit and develop Conceptual Exterior Elevation Drawings to communicate the
preliminary design concept for the Community building. Notes on these exhibits will indicate proposed finishes
and materials for the exterior of the building". It further states " Prepare a Master Plan -level Estimate of
Probable Construction Costs for the overall park improvements, and break up improvements into two phasing
packages, as determined to be appropriate in a discussion with City staff'.
This does not agree with the City Managers comment about Task 4 "Master Plan Development all of which
they have fulfilled. In addition, it was never in their scope of work to provide a budgeted estimate for
construction". There are big differences of opinion here.
Which gets us back to my original comments at the June 6th City Council meeting. What is the Draft budget
of $350,000 for Ladera Linda? It certainly cannot be for what the City Manager calls Architectural Blueprints
for a 3,000 sq foot building. As I said, we are not building a shopping mall.
This now leads to the same logic and mind set for the $250,000 for the Civic Center Site Master Plan. What
the City Manager says and reality are two different things.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Gabriella Yap <g_yap(a,rpvca.gov> wrote:
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Hi Mickey,
Thank you for your email. Your assumption that the $100,000 approved by the Council on June 6, 2016, only yielded a
site survey at Ladera Linda is incorrect. The agreement with Richard Fisher
(http://documents.rpvca.gov/WebLink/0/doc/52783/Pagel.aspx) was for Pre -Design Meetings, Site
Analysis/Assessment, Community Outreach and Public Participation workshops (which I believe you attended), and
Master Plan Development, all of which they have fulfilled. In addition, it was never in their scope of work to provide a
budgeted estimate for construction.
The $350,000 in funds are indeed for the creation of architectural/construction ready documents for the Ladera Linda
Master Plan improvements, both for the new community center and adjacent parklands. As you know, we are going to
bring a recommended Ladera Linda design alternative for Council's consideration in the near future. That
recommendation will include a conceptual building and park design, as well as general cost estimates. If approved by
Council, those cost estimates will be used to create a future RFP and eventual construction documents.
Since we do not have cost estimates yet, the $350,000 is simply a placeholder estimate in the budget at this time. The
$250,000 is also a placeholder for the Civic Center Site Master Plan, not only for a site survey. Cost is a hugely
important factor, and it would be great if the consultants come out being a lot less. However, we have to remember
that being a good steward not only means looking at cost, but also ensuring consultants are qualified, experienced, and
able to meet the standards of this community. For example, I would not recommend an architect who has only done
residential developments in their past or does not have a good track record for these types of larger, non-residential
projects.
Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information.
Gabi
Gabriella Yap
Deputy City Manager
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
(310) 544-5203 (office)
(310) 544-5291 (fax)
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On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodichggmail.com> wrote:
At the previous CC meeting on June 6th, I questioned the $350,000 budgeted item for Ladera
Linda Park for FY 17-18. What does this budget item include? Is it for a construction project?
All of my Ladera Linda neighbors were under the impression that the initial $100,000 project you
approved, was ofr a complete sLU-d-y' that would come up With a design concept for the Park
building and a budgeted estimate for construction of the Park building. Obviously that is not true.
Instead I guess it was only for a Site Survey.
When the City Council then asked the City Manager what the $350,000 was to provide, his
answer was Architectural Drawings. I do not believe this answer. We are talking about a 9,000 sq.
ft. building and not a shopping mall. On this basis, I could only imagine what the building
estimates will be.
This leads me to another subject. The $250,000 item approved by you for the Civic Center Site
must, by definition, be also only for a Site Survey. If that is the case, one would assume that the
Architectural Drawings cost for the Civic Center Site would be proportional or around $875,000.
This is another ridiculous number. I think it's about time we look for consultants that are a lot less
expensive. In the past, I have mentioned that the Staff were the Stewards of OUR money and they
should spend it as if it is their own.
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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: 10/18/2016
AGENDA REPORT AGENDA HEADING: Regular Business
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to receive and file an update on the status of Master
Plan process for Ladera Linda Park.
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
(1) Receive and file the report.
FISCAL IMPACT: None.
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Matt Waters, Senior Administrative Analyst
REVIEWED BY: Cory Linder, Director of Recreation & Parks r (for Cory Linder)
APPROVED BY: Doug Willmore, City Manager".-"/:"_'
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
A. September 22, 2016, Ladera Linda Public Workshop Powerpoint (page
A-1)
B. Public Emails regarding Ladera Linda Park Master Plan September 20 -
October 7, 2016 (page B-1)
C. September 22, 2016, Ladera Linda Public Workshop Agenda
http://ca-ranchopalosverdes.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/View/8939
D. Ladera Linda Usage 2015 Spreadsheet
http://ca-ranchopalosverdes.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/View/9025
E. Professional Service Agreement with Richard Fisher Associates (RFA)
http://ca-ranchopalosverdes.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/View/8902
F. June 6, 2016, Ladera Linda Master Plan Professional Services Agreement
Staff Report
http://ca-ranchopalosverdes.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/View/8703
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
Ladera Linda Park has served the residents of Rancho Palos Verdes well since its
opening in 1983, following a long tenure as an elementary school. Generations of
residents and visitors enjoyed the site both as a school and as a park and community
center. However, the pre -fabricated buildings and infrastructure of this community jewel
have fallen into poor condition over the years. A 2013 Infrastructure Report Card
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prepared by SA Associates, an engineering firm hired to assess the current condition of
existing public structures in the City, noted that the Ladera Linda Community Center
received an overall infrastructure score of "F" (FAIL). Attendees at two Ladera Linda
public workshops in 2014 and 2015 (part of the Parks Master Plan Update process),
expressed strong support for a new community center at Ladera Linda.
On September 1, 2015, the City Council directed Staff to issue a Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. Demolition of the existing buildings and
the building of a new community center at Ladera Linda were part of the scope of the
Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council on October 6, 2015. On
October 19, 2015, Staff issued RFPs to design firms for the creation of a Ladera Linda
Parks Master Plan. Richard Fisher Associates (RFA), a firm that has completed well
over a hundred park master plan and development projects, was selected by the City
Council on June 6, 2016.
The project schedule to develop the Master Plan is slated for completion within thirty-
four (34) weeks. Following formal approval of the project, RFA began work on the
Master Plan in early September 2016. Since that time, RFA has met with Staff,
conducted preliminary site and document research, held several site visits, met with a
variety of interested parties and other users of the facility, and co -hosted a community
workshop at Ladera Linda on September 22, 2016, which was attended by over 80
people. A number of concerns about the process and the Master Plan project have
been raised, both at that workshop and especially in subsequent emails. The City
Council requested that this item be brought back at a subsequent meeting to receive an
update on its status.
Adherence to City Council's "Less is More" Guidance
The City Council emphasized the importance of a "less is more" approach to Park
Planning during the Parks Master Plan Update process which was approved in October
2015. Thus, the recommendations in the Parks Master Plan for a new Ladera Linda
Community Center mirrors current uses on site. Large-scale recreation elements such
as a pool, gym, dog park and skate park were not included, and are certainly not being
considered by Staff or RFA. This was emphasized by Staff and RFA at the public
workshop. No designs have been created yet as RFA is still in an information gathering
phase, but Staff has emphasized the "less is more" philosophy with RFA from the very
start of the process. No elements that were opposed by the community during the
Parks Master Plan process were proposed to RFA to be included in the draft plans and
the project's scope has not increased in any way.
Below are the Parks Master Plan recommendations for Ladera Linda that Staff is
adhering to:
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2015 PARK MASTER PLAN UPDATE RECOMMENDATIONS
Development of New Community Center
• Develop facilitated Master Plan and public outreach process for development of new
Ladera Linda Park Community Center.
• Incorporate expanded Nature Center/Preserve Annex and Sheriff/Ranger drop-in
office into Master Plan Process
• Upon completion of Master Plan Process, proceed with demolition of existing
buildings and construction of new Community Center
Additional Enhancements: Recommendations below should be done in
conjunction with Community Center development
• Pave access road between lower and middle parking lots
• Improve landscaping on existing multi -use playing field
• Upgrade surfacing of current asphalt play area: keep two basketball courts
• Transition to drought -tolerant landscaping where feasible
• Install interior paddle tennis fencing separating the two courts
• Replace current railroad tie stairs with concrete stairs
Staff is currently following up on City Council's approved recommendations, which were
the product of extensive community outreach during the Parks Master Plan. The
recommendations on what to include (and what not to include) were strongly influenced
by resident feedback received via survey, emails and workshops. RFA is following the
terms and project benchmarks and deliverables that are included in the Professional
Service Agreement that was approved by the City Council in June 2016.
Rebuilding is the Preferred Option
As previously mentioned, the 2013 Infrastructure Assessment gave all five buildings at
Ladera Linda Community Center an F grade, the lowest score possible. Only two other
City -owned buildings received an F grade, both maintenance outbuildings at City Hall.
The report notes that Ladera Linda buildings are prefabricated, assembled on-site,
interlocking metallic panel construction structures built in the 1960s. The report notes
that "maintenance is no longer effective", the buildings are "seismically questionable",
"not ADA compliant", with "no ventilation and no operating heating/cooling system", "no
sprinkler system", and notes the buildings are not energy efficient based on thermal
infrared testing. The report also references concerns about lead-based paint and the
presence of asbestos in floor and ceiling tiles and other building materials. The report
includes the following recommendation for four of the five buildings:
Recommendation: (1) Given the potential costs associated with
renovation, the cost of maintenance, and the fact that the building is an
energy hog, a new facility might be a better investment. (2) The
remediation of the building is unreasonable for the overall Return on
Investment. (3) For the time being, at a minimum, seismic retrofitting
should be considered.
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For the fifth building, which consists of a classroom, two restrooms, and a janitors'
closet, the report recommends a seismic retrofitting along with renovation of the existing
restrooms "at a minimum." Based on that analysis, Staff recommended that the
buildings be demolished and rebuilt in the Parks Master Plan Update that Council
approved in 2015.
Project Size
Establishing the current and desired uses is the key first step in determining square
footage. Thanks to extensive public involvement, key park elements have already been
recommended. In more information gathering just last week, which included a review of
the original construction blueprints, Staff discovered that Ladera Linda's current five -
building footprint is approximately 13,500 square feet (SF), not 18,000 SF as was
originally thought. Including the square footage from a number of storage sheds and
storage containers on-site raises the total current square footage up to approximately
15,000 SF. It is also important to note that the design of the current buildings is for an
elementary school layout, not a community center. Most community centers are one or
two buildings at the most, which greatly reduces the overall footprint and allows for
greater security and controlled access. Since RFA has not yet created their two design
alternatives, precise square footage totals are not available, but they should be
significantly less than the existing square footage. Reducing the number of rooms and
consolidating/reducing the storage will help reduce the overall footprint of the project.
It is not within Staff's authority to arbitrarily set a limit on the square footage of the new
building(s) at this stage, as has been suggested by a few. While the new designs will
likely come in far under the existing square footage, it is not within Staff's authority to
direct the designer to an arbitrary size specified by Staff. The size will be determined by
the uses that the community has said that they wanted, and that the Council ultimately
approves. When the design alternatives come back, the community will have an
opportunity to once again weigh in, and the City Council ultimately approves whatever
moves forward.
Staffing Levels
Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time Staff member per shift who is
overseen by a full-time Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase
staffing to two part-time Staff per shift with one full-time Supervisor. This is comparable
to staffing levels at Hesse Park and PVIC. A mix of 2-3 Sheriff's personnel and 6-7
Open Space Management Staff would only use their office for periodic drop-in use,
since the vast majority of their time will be spent performing public safety monitoring in
the Preserve. Open Space Staff and the Sheriff's Preserve deputies are already using
existing office space for a drop-in office. Several docents might stop by occasionally to
lead a tour of the Discovery/Nature Center room or work on artifacts, just as they do
now.
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Project Funding
The 2015-16 Capital Improvement Plan estimated $7.2 million for design, demolition,
and construction. This was based on a 12,000 square foot building size. This estimate
includes many of the elements being discussed currently: restrooms, multi-purpose
room, classrooms, landscaping, irrigation, a Discovery/Nature Center room, and an
Open Space Staff/Sheriff drop-in office. However, it is a very generous estimate of a
building sized larger than will likely be designed, proposed, and ultimately approved.
Updated cost estimates will be developed and presented to the community and Council
as part of the Master Plan process.
Examining Alternative Storage Locations
Because of its many classrooms, Ladera Linda has been used as an informal storage
and workplace area for many years by groups such as Las Candalistas and the Los
Serenos Docents. While it does make sense to store PVIC-related artifacts at PVIC,
there is no available storage in the existing PVIC building, and expanding that building
for additional storage would be an expensive, multi-year process, particularly given the
fact that PVIC is located within the Coastal Zone. The Docents have requested
continued use of storage space at Ladera Linda, but building expensive new space for
storage would be just as expensive at Ladera Linda as it would be at PVIC. Staff is
exploring other storage options. It doesn't makes sense to build new space at Ladera
Linda to store items from other sites. The Upper Point Vicente Park/Civic Center is in
the early stages of its own Master Plan process. Large-scale elements that have been
eliminated from consideration at Ladera Linda (gym, pool, etc.) could be considered for
that location if residents and the Council wish.
Outreach Efforts to Interested Groups
Several workshop attendees and subsequent emails questioned why staff and RFA
would take the time to meet with other stakeholders, noting that the only "stakeholders"
who should have input are HOAs that are adjacent or near to Ladera Linda. Staff
regrets that the word "stakeholder" was taken to mean that these groups had a vote on
what is eventually built at Ladera Linda.
The only group with a vote on the Ladera Linda Master Plan is the City Council. That
said, Staff and RFA want to hear from as many community voices as possible,
particularly local residents. The input and involvement of HOA's, local residents and the
RPV community is of the utmost importance in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan.
Reaching out to interested and involved parties is an accepted best practice in park
planning and design projects as part of the information gathering phase. This allows
Staff and RFA to ascertain and verify what the current use levels are at the site and to
identify any particular issues and concerns that should be taken into account early in the
planning process. For example, if the community and Council chooses to continue
YMCA programs for our youth at Ladera Linda, we would want to know the space
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requirements for doing so. And, certainly, given the concerns raised by residents about
vandalism, traffic, graffiti and crime, we felt it was of vital importance to reach out to the
Lomita Sheriff's Department as early as possible in the process for input on how to
ensure that the future park was designed in the safest manner possible and to get their
input on possible space needs and/requests that could improve our ability to provide
public safety.
Level of Activity
While no one has a crystal ball to predict exact usage levels many years down the road,
steps have been taken to keep the types of use and the amounts very similar to current
levels. Ladera Linda has been a community park since 1983 and will continue to be so.
Below are some steps being taken to ensure that the Master Plan process is in line with
Council's direction to be respectful of park impacts on adjacent neighbors while
maintaining a low-key, community feel.
First, as mentioned before, the Master Plan will have no significant added elements: no
pool, gym, skate park, or dog park. Second, there will be a smaller community center
footprint than currently exists, which will allow for more green space and safe areas for
children to play outside. A nature center and Sheriff and Open Space Management
drop-in office are already on site and are being considered for the new site. Pending
Council approval, there will likely still be classes, HOA meetings, summer camps and
paddle tennis at Ladera Linda.
Third, park policies will be created as part of this process to effectively manage the type
and number of events that are allowed, as well as hours and noise levels. These
policies will be created with extensive feedback from local residents who are both most
knowledgeable of and most affected by park usage.
September 22nd Workshop PowerPoint
RFA's PowerPoint listed only existing elements at the park site. One slide listed "review
of current uses" while two other slides had columns for elements that are "currently on
site" and for "new master plan." The New Master Plan sections did not list any new
elements. It was intentionally left blank because those uses had not been decided.
(Attachment A, slides 17-21)
Timeline
Staff and RFA are following a 34 -week Master Plan time frame that was approved by
City Council.
Site Dimensions/Layout
No determinations have been made about the dimensions, footprint or number of
stories. This process will result in alternatives regarding those specifics that residents
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and the City Council will be able to consider. RFA is still in an information -gathering
phase and there are no conceptual designs at this time. RFA did discuss the possibility
of a two-story concept during several stakeholder meetings, but, again, no design
decisions have been made. If a two-story building is put forward as an option, it would
not mean a doubling of the square footage, but would actually reduce the building's
overall footprint, e.g., a 10,000 SF facility would potentially only have a 5,000 SF
footprint if it were two stories.
Parking, Preserve, Traffic, the Forrestal gate and Upper Soccer fields
Numerous excellent points were raised both during the September 22nd workshop and
the user meetings about the design challenges caused by the proximity to the Palos
Verdes Nature Preserve, traffic patterns, and the impact of the adjacent upper soccer
fields. RFA and Staff are well aware of these concerns and will be working on creative
and effective design solutions. Staff has promised to coordinate usage with AYSO and
the School District to mitigate parking and traffic impact during their busiest times.
Role of the Consultant
RFA was selected by the City Council on June 6, 2016, at a cost of $93,700 with an
additional not -to -exceed amount of $10,000 for reimbursable expenses. The services of
a professional design consultant is crucial in a project of this magnitude and community
importance. This is a design project, which necessitated that a professional designer be
hired. The level of attention and involvement from the community, combined with the
proximity of residences and the Forrestal Reserve, the grade differentials of the site's
multiple levels, and the complexity and number of elements on the site combine to
make the hiring of a consultant with over 40 years of experience a prudent investment.
It is important to note that RFA is facilitating, not directing the project. The final
decisions regarding RFA's design options will be up to City Council.
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'erstevens@cox.net'; Mona Dill; Ken Dyda; Jerry Duhovic
Cc: R. Gene Dewey; Emeric Rodich (mickeyrodich ; sharon yarber; Sharon and Bill Schurmer;
Gary and Shirley Kinnett; George Fink; Joyce; Tom Karen Smith; 'Ruthann Rodich'; Erika
Barber; Cory Linder; Doug Willmore; Gabriella Yap; Daniel Trautner
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
Dear Mr. Stevens,
Thank you for your email about the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan and Thursday's Public Workshop. The Parks Master
Plan Update approved by the City Council on October 6, 2015 did not recommend either a gymnasium or swimming pool
for Ladera Linda. This decision followed two Ladera Linda workshops in 2014-2015 where there was significant
opposition to either a gym or pool. Staff and our consultant, Richard Fisher Associates are looking to the community for
site specific direction and input on a new community center and its size, location, landscaping and aesthetics, we are not
recommending either a gymnasium or a pool at Ladera Linda. This falls in line with resident feedback received to date
and the Council's "less is more" philosophy on park projects.
I welcome and encourage you to attend Thursday's meeting at Ladera Linda from 6-8pm. Please feel free to contact me
with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: erstevens@cox.net [mailto:erstevens@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Ken Dyda <Ken.Dyda@rpvca.gov>; Jerry
Duhovic <JerryD@rpvca.gov>
Cc: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>; Emeric Rodich (mickeyrodich <mickeyrodich@yahoo.com>; sharon yarber
<momofyago@gmail.com>; Sharon and Bill Schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>; Gary and Shirley Kinnett
<gandskinnett@cox.net>; George Fink <gfinkll@cox.net>; Joyce <jfinkcentral@cox.net>; Tom Karen Smith
<thomash.smith@gmail.com>; 'Ruthann Rodich' <ruthannrodich@cox.net>; Erika Barber <nbarber310@cox.net>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
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Attention Matt Waters & Mona Dill,
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan meeting 09/22/16
It has been brought to my attention that the City of RVP is resurrecting the idea of having a full service gymnasium
facility and pool on the old Ladera Linda Elementary site. This is a very expensive proposition that should be evaluated
from every angle and needs to not only have the support of the local community but the on-going financial support of
City of RPV including capital funds, maintenance funds, and staffing to make this kind of project a reality; while
realistically looking at all the shortcomings to determine if this project should even be considered.
First, this property is owned by the PVUSD and unless it has been shifted to the City of RPV it would require some form
of a joint use agreement and would mean that both parties would have to agree on the use and maintenance of said
facility as well as who would take on the full liability if someone was injured on the property. Furthermore, there is the
question of the tear -down and construction and who would have priority of use... ie the public, the school district, the
city, and or its residents. Then there is the issue of all the other PVUSD sites with gyms and recreation facilities are these
under or over utilized and would it make sense to have another site so close to the Miraleste Intermediate campus
which already has a gymnasium and pool. Is our population growing on the hill or is it in a steady state. Some research
would have to demonstrate demand for the project and would need to out way some of the more negative factors ( ie
cost, insurance, staffing, maintenance, etc). As it stands now just making observations at the many school sites and
parks throughout the city we are not at capacity nor do we need any other facility to create more financial burdens for
the city.
Second, there is the question regarding staffing. As it is the city of RPV's role to hire and manage the parks and
recreation staff that would be true of this proposed facility. This site would require more full-time staff than any other
location throughout the recreation and parks sites. This means this site would require additional funding and new
positions that do not already exist such as life guard, security guard, grounds supervisor. In addition, because this
construction would come under the new "green building" requirements required by California the city would need to
hire someone in maintenance who was privy to the regulations and cleaning requirements to maintain the "green"
building properly. Can the city take on additional staff to perform these important functions?
Finally, this undertaking requires a new set of policies and procedures, joint -use agreement between the City and
Unified School District, and security to make sure that the residents have priority of use rather than those from
surrounding areas who might become users. Will there be a fee for use to maintain the facility? How will the facility be
paid for in the first place? Will there be enough parking? What about night use? Will this mean there will be security to
protect the facility from vandals, non-residents, and those not using it correctly?
This is a very complicated project that requires more than a vote of interest here. We deserve to know:
F 33
How much it will initial cost to tear down, to build, and to maintain? Who will oversee the use of the facility and who has
priority of use? Will this site have lights that will disrupt the surrounding neighborhoods with added traffic, noise, and
lights beyond the normal daylight hours? How much use do our current parks get and do we need a facility like this with
our current high schools all having gyms and pools including Miraleste Intermediate School. There are so many
questions here that need answers and the first and foremost is what is the utilization rate of our current parks and how
can we update Ladera Linda to make it more serviceable then to create a giant focal point without investigating its
impacts.
F 34
I would also like to bring to your attention at the present time the City does not have funds to pave the parking
area next to the paddle tennis courts or the staff to clean the courts a few time a week from all the dust, sand,
Pebbles & leaves. I have also requested more fuel modification be done to protect the neighborhoods of Ladera
Linda & Seaview from the possible fire danger to both neighborhoods & again the City is over budget. Yet the
staff has the funds to hire a consultant & to waste their time & the resident's time, when this was put to rest last
year @a the City Council meeting that the residents were not interested.
Sincerely
Edward Stevens
32418 Conqueror Dr.
F 35
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:56 PM
To: Cory Linder
Cc: Daniel Trautner
Subject: FW: FYI - : Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
Attachments: Ladera Linda 09.22.16 jpg
FYI
From: erstevens@cox.net [mailto:erstevens@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:54 PM
To: Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: FYI - : Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
Dear Doug,
Approximately 65 — 75% of the local neighbors that I have spoken to are happy with the existing facilities that could last
another 25 — 50 years with some cosmetic repair. (The money spent on the consultant would have been better spent on
the cosmetic repairs.) The asbestos in the buildings could be encapsulated & not be any danger to anyone.
The Neighbors do not think or want a new community center that eventually leads to the upgrade in the future of the
gymnasium and pool. We live in a nice quiet neighborhood & do not need to attract more outside visitors. A new
community center would be better at Hesse park or the large Ryan park. We already attract a lot of outside visitors to
the soccer fields that are now causing a lot of problems for the City & the School district & we do not need more
problems with a community center. This problem will eventually cost the City & the School District a ton of money that
they do not have the extra funds to take care of. The Soccer fields will be a huge drain for everyone- what a total waste
of time & money that may now drag on for years.
There is very limited parking or space to enlarge the parking area as you will see at the meeting when all the Neighbors
try to find a place to park.
As I stated in my original email.
I would also like to bring to your attention at the present time the City does not have funds to pave the parking
area next to the paddle tennis courts or the staff to clean the courts a few time a week from all the dust, sand,
Pebbles & leaves. I have also requested more fuel modification be done to protect the neighborhoods of Ladera
Linda & Seaview from the possible fire danger to both neighborhoods & again the City is over budget. Yet the
staff has the funds to hire a consultant & to waste their time & the resident's time, when this was put to rest last
year @ the City Council meeting that the residents were not interested.
Hope to see you at the meeting
Edward Stevens
From: Doug Willmore fmailto:DWillmore(?i)rpvca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:05 PM
To: erstevensC«@cox.net
Cc: CC
Subject: Re: FYI - : Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
Mr. Stevens,
F 36
Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, you have been misinformed or are mistaken. There is no discussion or effort by
anyone employed or contracted by the City to construct a gymnasium and/or pool at Ladera Linda. The planning process
is directly in line with the input that residents have given to staff and Council in the past.
Please continue to stay involved - we value your input.
Doug
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 20, 2016, at 5:36 PM, "erstevens@cox.net" <erstevens@cox.net> wrote:
From: erstevensC@cox.net [mailto:erstevens(a)cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: mattw@rpvca.gov; monadC@rpvca.gov; ken.dyda(&rpvca.gov; jerry.duhovic@rpvca.gov
Cc: R. Gene Dewey; Emeric Rodich (mickeyrodich ; sharon yarber; Sharon and Bill Schurmer; Gary and
Shirley Kinnett; George Fink; Joyce; Tom Karen Smith; 'Ruthann Rodich'; Erika Barber
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master plan 09/22/16
Attention Matt Waters & Mona Dill,
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan meeting 09/22/16
It has been brought to my attention that the City of RVP is resurrecting the idea of having a full service
gymnasium facility and pool on the old Ladera Linda Elementary site. This is a very expensive proposition
that should be evaluated from every angle and needs to not only have the support of the local
community but the on-going financial support of City of RPV including capital funds, maintenance funds,
and staffing to make this kind of project a reality; while realistically looking at all the shortcomings to
determine if this project should even be considered.
First, this property is owned by the PVUSD and unless it has been shifted to the City of RPV it would
require some form of a joint use agreement and would mean that both parties would have to agree on
the use and maintenance of said facility as well as who would take on the full liability if someone was
injured on the property. Furthermore, there is the question of the tear -down and construction and who
would have priority of use... ie the public, the school district, the city, and or its residents. Then there is
the issue of all the other PVUSD sites with gyms and recreation facilities are these under or over utilized
and would it make sense to have another site so close to the Miraleste Intermediate campus which
already has a gymnasium and pool. Is our population growing on the hill or is it in a steady state. Some
research would have to demonstrate demand for the project and would need to out way some of the
more negative factors ( ie cost, insurance, staffing, maintenance, etc). As it stands now just making
observations at the many school sites and parks throughout the city we are not at capacity nor do we
need any other facility to create more financial burdens for the city.
Second, there is the question regarding staffing. As it is the city of RPV's role to hire and manage the
parks and recreation staff that would be true of this proposed facility. This site would require more full-
time staff than any other location throughout the recreation and parks sites. This means this site would
require additional funding and new positions that do not already exist such as life guard, security guard,
grounds supervisor. In addition, because this construction would come under the new "green building"
requirements required by California the city would need to hire someone in maintenance who was privy
F 37
to the regulations and cleaning requirements to maintain the "green" building properly. Can the city
take on additional staff to perform these important functions?
Finally, this undertaking requires a new set of policies and procedures, joint -use agreement between the
City and Unified School District, and security to make sure that the residents have priority of use rather
than those from surrounding areas who might become users. Will there be a fee for use to maintain the
facility? How will the facility be paid for in the first place? Will there be enough parking? What about
night use? Will this mean there will be security to protect the facility from vandals, non-residents, and
those not using it correctly?
This is a very complicated project that requires more than a vote of interest here. We deserve to know:
F 38
How much it will initial cost to tear down, to build, and to maintain? Who will oversee the use of the
facility and who has priority of use? Will this site have lights that will disrupt the surrounding
neighborhoods with added traffic, noise, and lights beyond the normal daylight hours? How much use
do our current parks get and do we need a facility like this with our current high schools all having gyms
and pools including Miraleste Intermediate School. There are so many questions here that need answers
and the first and foremost is what is the utilization rate of our current parks and how can we update
Ladera Linda to make it more serviceable then to create a giant focal point without investigating its
impacts.
F 39
I would also like to bring to your attention at the present time the City does not have funds to
pave the parking area next to the paddle tennis courts or the staff to clean the courts a few time a
week from all the dust, sand, Pebbles & leaves. I have also requested more fuel modification be
done to protect the neighborhoods of Ladera Linda & Seaview from the possible fire danger to
both neighborhoods & again the City is over budget. Yet the staff has the funds to hire a
consultant & to waste their time & the resident's time, when this was put to rest last year @ the
City Council meeting that the residents were not interested.
Sincerely
Edward Stevens
32418 Conqueror Dr.
<Ladera Linda (3).pdf>
F 40
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:21 PM
To: 'Gary Randall'
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan; Mona Dill
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Public Workshop 9/22/2016
Hi Gary,
I thought a lot of good questions and issues were raised last night and I really appreciate so many members of the
community getting involved; it makes for a better process.
Enjoy the weekend,
Matt
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.netj
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:31 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Daniel Trautner <DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>; James
Flannigan <JamesF@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Public Workshop 9/22/2016
Thanks, Matt. These are always tough meetings, any time you get 100 people in a room there will be 100 different
opinions, you get the lucky job of trying to sort all that out O There are some big challenges to work on here, but I look
forward to continuing to be involved in the discussions toward a successful outcome.
I will certainly pass along your response to my wife's comments.
Have a great weekend!
From: Matt Waters [ma iIto: MattWO)rpvca.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:54 AM
To: Gary Randall
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan; Mona Dill
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Public Workshop 9/22/2016
Hi Gary,
Thanks for coming to last night's meeting and for voicing your concerns and opinions both personally and to the whole
group. Thanks also for your follow-up emails sent this morning. I'll be reviewing the issue you raised including parking,
input from stakeholders and HOAs, storage, and the timing of the project with our team next week. We will certainly
follow up on our pledge to post detailed information about current usage at LL on the City's website within a week or
two at the latest.
Also, I appreciate you sharing the information about the large hike that took place this morning. That is a perfect
example of the type of large, unapproved usage that we are trying to address throughout the City's parks and nature
areas
F41
Finally, below is a response to your wife's email:
Hi Teresa,
Thank you for contacting us with your thoughts on the appropriateness on contacting stakeholders during the early
stages of the Master Plan process. Several attendees at last night's meeting raised similar concerns. I absolutely agree
that the voice and opinions of residents and Ladera Linda neighbors are of primary importance in this process. That was
a point that staff and our consultant repeatedly emphasized last night. Resident opinions about elements such as a
gymnasium, pool, and dog park were heard loud and clear during the 2014 and 2015 public workshops and those
elements have been removed from consideration. The Council -approved Parks Master Plan spells out that impact on
park -adjacent residents and maintaining a low-key community feel is vital to any future park projects.
I respectfully share our consultant's belief that it is important to receive information early on from a wide range of
interested parties and groups who are currently using the facility or will likely be using the eventual new facility. It
would be a planning failure to at least not reach out to groups such as the Sheriff, YMCA, Park instructors, Docents and
the Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy to ascertain what their potential needs and concerns might be early on in
their process. This is a standard best practice in park planning projects.
That said, I would like to reiterate that the thoughts, feelings, and opinions of local residents is essential to the success
and viability of this project. I encourage you and other residents in the area to stay involved in this project and continue
to offer your input. Thank you again for your comments.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:35 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
Subject: FW: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan Public Workshop 9/22/2016
I am forwarding this note from my wife.....
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Dear Gentleman,
I was just given a brief summary on tonight's meeting by my husband. I was extremely surprised to hear that
you are giving "stakeholders" input on Ladera Linda Park's Master Plan. The YMCA, the PVPUSD, nor any
LL Community Center Instructors (to name a few), should not have any say on what goes on here. They have
no stake in our community they come work then leave. We, the LL residents should be the only ones you
should be seeking input from, we live here and will have to put up with the increased traffic, parking issues, and
noise impacts on a daily basis (something we already deal with, but will increase). That being said I hope that
you give the residents that live in LL the highest weight in making decisions.
Thank you for your consideration,
Teresa R.
Sent from my personal secretary
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:56 AM
To: Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan
Cc: Cory Linder; Mary Hirsch
Subject: FW: Hike this morning
Attachments: IMG_4598.JPG; IMG_4596.JPG; IMG_4603.JPG
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:00 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Vlaco Jessica <jvlaco@yahoo.com>; ed hummel <ecarloshum@gmail.com>; Mickey
Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; 'Herb Stark' <herbertstark@cox.net>
Subject: Hike this morning
Hi Matt:
Attached is a good example of a large, organized group that came and completely filled the LL Community Center
Parking lot this morning at 7:15 a.m. (and parked a fair way down Forrestal). I estimated 50-60 hikers when they finally
all assembled and headed out, and it's not even Saturday morning! I think it will be extremely important for you,
working with the consultant, to come up with good, creative solutions to ensure parking at any new facility is reserved
for actual users of the facility, not for large groups going on hikes in the preserve. I also trust that, in this process, you
will be thinking about solutions to overflow parking onto Forrestal and onto Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven Drives.
I have suggested in the past that Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven should be considered for "parking by permit only"
restrictions, and that perhaps parking along Forrestal be limited to one side only (and perhaps have time limits on it, say
2 hours maximum). I think this discussion should be occurring now, regardless of any longer term project earmarked for
the community center and park. My views and ideas for a solution may not be exactly the same as other Ladera Linda
residents, but I think the majority of residents feel something needs to be done to improve the current situation.
I am not against the general public utilizing our beautiful parks and hiking trails — after all, these are public areas. I do
not think, however, that the city has any obligation to provide unlimited, or even large amounts, of parking, nor
encourage use of these areas thru social media. It's time to get this situation under control, and also develop some very
good plans for the future community center.
Thank you for your consideration. I do have some additional comments on last night's meeting, but will include those in
a separate email.
Gary
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:58 AM
To: Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan
Cc: Cory Linder; 'Richard Fisher'; Mary Hirsch
Subject: FW: Comments on Ladera Linda Master plan meeting 9/23
FYI
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>; Jerry
Duhovic <JerryD@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Comments on Ladera Linda Master plan meeting 9/23
Cory, Matt:
Thank you for a very informative meeting last night. I wrote a few comments on a comment card, but after thinking
about things last night, wanted to make a few more. My comments here are as a local individual resident, I do not
represent the LLHOA in general:
Primary input should come from the 4 local HOAs. Any input from groups who rent the facilities (YMCA,
classroom instructors, etc.) should carry very low weight. The goal of this facility should not be to generate
income from renting it out. Clearly defined rules about rental of the property should be spelled out in writing
and agreed upon by the city council, with resident input in the form of a public hearing, BEFORE any finalization
of plans for a community center
2. 1 am hoping in any proposal, clear definition, consideration, and solid solutions to parking will be considered,
taking into account:
a. Proximity to the reserves and hiking trails
b. Spillover parking into residential areas
Any staff report to the city council should devote a section to this topic. It is a big concern for residents.
3. Any areas designated for storage need to be clearly identified (for whom, for what purpose), and, should be
maintained as storage areas. Any change in usage in the future should be decided by the City Council in a duly
noticed public hearing.
4. As discussed, I am looking forward to some specific detail about current usage of the facilities, including days,
times, what groups, and amount of square feet, whether these groups pay rent or not, etc. It is very important
that the 4 local HOAs and residents know exactly what the current usage is. This critical information will help
the HOAs render informed feedback. I believe ultimately this will also be very important information to include
in a staff report going to the City Council, when it gets to that stage.
5. There seemed to be some eagerness on the part of the Parks Department to move relatively quickly on this
project.... conceptual work completed by next spring and "ribbon cutting" in about 2 years. I say there is no need
to rush .... if it takes a few months longer, with some additional community meetings showing interim or
preliminary concepts and thinking, then it is worth it. Going to the City Council with no additional community
meetings is, in my mind, a recipe for a disastrous and contentious City Council meeting.
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6. Speaking of ribbon cutting, when we get to that point, please please please don't have some big deal event with
food trucks, beer and wine garden, social media publications, etc. etc. The residents do NOT want that! Keep
everything low key, including the opening of the park. If, after a couple of years of construction the park gate
simply starts getting unlocked for usage with no announcement at all, I would be completely happy with
that. Believe me, local residents will know about it without the city saying a word....
Regards
Gary Randall
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:44 PM
To: 'Gary Randall'
Cc: Cory Linder; Doug Willmore; 'Herb Stark'; Gene Dewey; Ron Dragoo; Mona Dill; Daniel
Trautner; Leslie Williamson; Mary Hirsch; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
Hi Gary,
Good to hear from you and thanks for your email. You raise a number of good points that will certainly be discussed
tonight. I also anticipate significant input from the audience, so our intent is to move quickly through our presentations,
so there'll be ample time for public discussion and questions.
The Powerpoint does broadly outline current uses at Hesse Park during the RFA section of the report (slides 20 and 21).
Ladera Linda currently hosts a wide range of ongoing classes, seasonal camps, a YMCA summer camp, community
meetings, workshops as well as drop in -sports and casual use. Besides classrooms of varying sizes and an MPR, Ladera
Linda also hosts a Discovery Room, and Sheriff/Open Space Management (Preserve Ranger) drop-in offices. Typically,
new community centers are not built with sufficient storage (e.g. Hesse and PVIC) which is an issue to consider early on
in this process. LL is also a designated American Red Cross Evacuation and General Shelter location as well.
Now you are certainly correct that all 18,000 sq feet of LL is likely not ever used at the same time. Based on community
input that has already been received, along with input from tonight's workshop and the professional expertise of our
consultant, it is likely that the two alternative designs will be less than the current 18,000 square feet. That size (and
layout) was intended for an elementary school, not a park and community center. 18,000 is listed as a maximum, not as
a target size. The identified elements of the site, along with topography and other factors, should drive the square
footage, not the other way around.
We will certainly discuss current usage in general terms tonight as you suggested and follow-up with more detail going
forward. Current usage may not be the best barometer given the condition of the facility, but it certainly is a factor
worth considering.
Hope that was helpful and I look forward to seeing you at tonight's meeting.
Take Care,
Matt
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 11:13 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>; 'Herb Stark' <herbertstark@cox.net>;
Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Subject: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
Hi Matt:
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I am looking forward to tonight's meeting regarding the master plan for the Ladera Linda Community Center. Thank
you, also, for publishing the Powerpoint presentation ahead of that meeting.
In looking thru the Powerpoint presentation, I did not see any information about current actual usage of the 18,000
square foot community center in its current state. Perhaps I missed it — it I did, please let me know where that
information is in the reports.
Specifically, I am interested in knowing how much of, and how often, the current 18,000 square foot is being
utilized. Do YMCA day camps use all of the classrooms? Do Fall/Spring rec classes use all of the 18,000 square feet? If
the entire 18,000 square feet is not currently being utilized, or only utilized on very rare occasions, I would think that
would be important information to present so that those in attendance can make informed comments about their
wishes and input for the size of any new community center. For instance, if only 5000 square feet is being utilized, I
would likely be in favor of a community center that has similar square footage to what is currently being utilized (i.e.
5000 square feet), and likely not in favor of an 18,000 square foot facility. Of course, this is just an example, but I think
you can appreciate how current usage information is very important to the residents making informed comments.
I realize this is late input, and that it might be difficult to present specific numbers at tonight's meeting. If you cannot
present specific numbers and statistics, could you at least do the following:
1. Perhaps generally comment on current usage, and commit to getting specific numbers put together in a specific
timeframe to help in the decision process
2. Commit to, once you have those details, provide the detail to at least everyone who signed in at the meeting
and gave an email address, and solicit their feedback based on that information when it is published?
Thank you for your consideration of this aspect.
I would anticipate a LOT of input from the audience tonight. I am very hopeful that you, Cory, and the consultant will be
given a chance by the audience to get through your presentations first, without interruption, and then that you would
allow a generous amount of time for audience comments. You might even start your presentations by asking the
audience to hold all questions and comments until the end of the presentation and that there will be ample time for
discussion after the presentations.
Again, I look forward to seeing you at tonight's meeting.
Regards
Gary Randall
•
Matt Waters
From: edmundo hummel <ecarloshum@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 1:44 PM
To: Matt Waters
Subject: Re: Hike this morning
Thanks Matt!
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Matt Waters <MattW e rpvca.gov> wrote:
Hi Ed,
Thanks for your email and for attending last Thursday's meeting. Very productive meeting with a lot of good insights
and ideas. Appreciate your comments on parking and square footage which are both of tremendous importance. I will
definitely share your email with our consultant and keep them in mind as the process moves forward.
Much appreciated.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(d-)rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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From: edmundo hummel [mailto:ecarloshum@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 5:39 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CorvL@rpvca.gov>; Vlaco Jessica <ivlaco@vahoo.com>; Herb Stark <herbertstark@cox.net>; Gary
Randall <grapecon@cox.net>; Amanda Wong <kiwi esq@hotmail.com>; Tom Smith <thomas.smith2@gmail.com>; Jim
Lehman <iimlehman@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Hike this morning
Hi Matt. I was at the mtg. on Thurs. also. Thank you (and Cory) for being so gracious acting as human
punching bags for the various gripes. The new community center is shaping up to be a VERY contentious
project with some in the neighborhood pushing for a refurbishment of the current center instead of a
replacement (I'm not in that group). As you saw from the turnout, there's a LOT of concern about the project.
Gary is absolutely right about the parking. The immediate and intuitive thought is to provide enough parking
for the largest gatherings/events, but this is exactly what we don't want. I'm currently involved in a large
project for the County (replacement of Men's Central Jail) and parking (4000-5000 spaces) is a costly and
problematic issue. There is a philosophy that says limiting or reducing parking capacity forces car pooling,
public tranportation etc. Basically, if you build it, ....you know the rest.
I would suggest REDUCING the square footage of the new center (achieved, in part, through multi-purpose
spaces) if that is the driving force behind the required number of parking spots. If the number is 18,000 sq. ft.
(as I think I heard), it's WAY to big. We should be looking at 10,000 or smaller, instead. The current center
is seldom used and then, only a small portion at a time. There should not be an INCREASE in the current
number of parking spots. If you increase the number, you will increase the number of people visiting.... period.
Using Gary's suggestions to deal with the overflow into Ladera Linda and on Forrestal, we could restrict
parking there also. Parking here IS the limiting factor and should remain so.
Like our National Parks, which are currently experiencing an increasing crush of visitors, the Ladera Linda
area is being "loved" to death. Trails are overrun, there's increasing trash and crime and our neighborhood is
bearing the brunt of it.
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Thanks,
Ed Hummel
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Gary Randall <grapecon(&cox.net> wrote:
Hi Matt:
Attached is a good example of a large, organized group that came and completely filled the LL Community
Center Parking lot this morning at 7:15 a.m. (and parked a fair way down Forrestal). I estimated 50-60 hikers
when they finally all assembled and headed out, and it's not even Saturday morning! I think it will be
extremely important for you, working with the consultant, to come up with good, creative solutions to ensure
parking at any new facility is reserved for actual users of the facility, not for large groups going on hikes in
the preserve. I also trust that, in this process, you will be thinking about solutions to overflow parking onto
Forrestal and onto Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven Drives.
I have suggested in the past that Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven should be considered for "parking by permit
only" restrictions, and that perhaps parking along Forrestal be limited to one side only (and perhaps have time
limits on it, say 2 hours maximum). I think this discussion should be occurring now, regardless of any longer
term project earmarked for the community center and park. My views and ideas for a solution may not be
exactly the same as other Ladera Linda residents, but I think the majority of residents feel something needs to
be done to improve the current situation.
I am not against the general public utilizing our beautiful parks and hiking trails — after all, these are public
areas. I do not think, however, that the city has any obligation to provide unlimited, or even large amounts, of
parking, nor encourage use of these areas thru social media. It's time to get this situation under control, and
also develop some very good plans for the future community center.
Thank you for your consideration. I do have some additional comments on last night's meeting, but will
include those in a separate email.
Gary
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Matt Waters
From: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:28 PM
To: Herb Stark
Cc: Matt Waters
Subject: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Attachments: P & R Meeting LL Community Center 9-26-16.docx
Herb,
Would you send the attached document out to all of our residents. Thanks Gene
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Meeting with P & R Mon 1:30 to 3 PM
LL Community Center
For LL Gene Dewey/Mickey Rodich For Seaview Ali Derek President
For P & R Matt Watters, Mona Dill, Dan Trauner and David For the contractor, Dick Fisher
Matt opened the meeting by saying they wanted our input. Dick said they wanted ideas on parking.
Mickey open for LL and said that after the Sept 22, 2016 P & R workshop, the Ladera Linda residents had
a change in our community feelings about the Community Center after several outspoken members of LL
spoke to keep things the same with upgrades as necessary to the existing facilities.
Gene read the questioner he sent out by e-mail on Sunday 9-26, 2016
Ladera Linda Residents:
A number of our residents were in attendance at the P & R workshop on Thursday Oct 22, 2016. Nearly
everyone who spoke wanted to keep whatever was done to a minimum. They were concerned about the
negative impacts of a new center, traffic, noise, etc. Several years ago we were told by the city that the
buildings were unsafe and the utilities needed to be replaced or upgraded. The city however continues
to use these facilities as is with little or no maintenance being done while at the same time spending over
$ 90 K to develop a Master Plan and a design concept study for a new facility. This amount of money
would have gone a long way to improve some of the conditions needing repair. We were told a new
center was the preferred choice as opposed to repairing the existing facilities.
There were several people who spoke out against the new facility and preferred to keep the Ladera Linda
complex as it is with necessary repairs, rather than tear up the entire park, build new structures, spending
millions of dollars on something most of the residents don't want. Concerns were expressed that creating
a new facility will attract a whole new level of use and additional traffic to our neighborhood. Homeowner
Marty Foster points out in an e-mail to CC that the 50 year old homes in our neighborhood have been
repaired rebuilt, etc by the home owners. They dealt with the asbestos, up graded the plumbing,
electrical, etc. It may be possible to raze half of the structures, keep a couple of walls up and rebuild
about 10,000 sq feet of the current complex that is being used.
I would ask you to respond to two questions and I will publish the results.
Would you like to see a new facility, with walking trails, relocated
buildings, roads, trees removed to improve views, etc. or if you had
you say rebuild the existing necessary structures with upgrades and
minimize the disturbance to the park as it now is?
Even though the train is out of the station, this neighborhood has been instrumental in getting our
neighbors elected to the council in the past and we have had some success in helping to get some of the
current council members elected. If we prefer to keep things as they are with necessary improvements,
perhaps we can convince the council to rethink this project.
Please respond to me as soon as possible. r9dewey(a)-cox.net
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At the time of the meeting on Monday there were 29 responses so far; 25 to keep existing buildings and
upgrade as necessary, 3 responses for New and one response that didn't have enough information to
make a decision. We discussed keeping the building on the present foot print with only the necessary
square footage, etc.
Dan said they need room for as many as 15 employees using various offices in the new building, 2
Sheriff Park Rangers, 2-3 Direct Staff for management, 6 to 7 open space management employees, 2 to 3
museum and interpretive center personal. They have identified the "Stake Holders" as The Land
Conservancy/Docents/Enforcement staff/Mommy and me classes/yoga/ YMCA/ Los Serranos and all
four surrounding HOA's. The Sheriff Park rangers need space to store and charge their electric vehicles.
They need space for the ranger's pickups, etc. There is a need for considerable storage for the
Interpretive Center and other organizations that currently store material and artifacts in the existing
buildings. Mickey suggested storage be relocated to other sites closer to the user.
We spent considerable time talking about parking. The staff wants a control point where they can
monitor all the traffic in and out. This will all result in a major increase in P & R staff, expenses, etc. One
idea was to open the Forrestal Gate and allow parking on the City right of way for the reserve as well as
AYSO at the same time. That will generate more traffic, but it would separate Community Center Traffic
from Reserve Traffic. Under this scenario the P & R Staff would open and close the gate.
Matt Waters said that as a result of input from the Sept 22, 2016 Workshop they will bring the final
suggested designs back to the community to review before they take it to the city council
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Matt Waters
From: Gabriella Yap
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:05 AM
To: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Matt Waters
Cc: Kit Fox; Doug Willmore
Subject: Fwd: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
Sent from my Samsung device
-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>
Date: 10/1/2016 8:55 AM (GMT -08:00)
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Edmundo Hummel <ecarloshum@gmail.com>, Gary Randall <grapecon@cox.net>, Lisa Lehman
<lisadoll@mac.com>, EZStevens <erstevens@cox.net>, "R. Gene Dewey" <rgdewey@cox.net>,
martycrna@cox.net, "Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>" <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>, Bill Foster
<bfos@cox.net>, Herb Stark <herbertstark@cox.net>, Joe Tetherow <j.tetherow@cox.net>, Barry Hildebrand
<bjhilde@aol.com>, Richard Stark <dimarstark@cox.net>, Jack Fleming <Jfleming2000@yahoo.com>,
Thomas Smith <thomash.smith@gmail.com>, Donald Bell <dwbrpv@gmail.com>, Jessica Vlaco
<vlaco5@cox.net>, Mike Hansen <cfink@cfid.net>, "Judy Youssef:" <julysa@aol.com>, Charles Agnew
<cvagnew@cox.net>, Erika Barber <nbarber310@cox.net>, Paul Barrett <revpaullyb@gmail.com>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan
City Council Members,
Its been a long time since I have written the City Council and I rarely do, but in the case of the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan, I will make an
exception. I'll keep it brief as I have learned to do after sitting for a number of years on a city committee/commission.
In my 45 years of living in the Ladera Linda neighborhood, I have never seen a reaction such as this. Call it an attitude centered around the concern
that our community center will expand into an attraction that will draw unnecessary and unwanted attention to our neighborhood.
Citizens we never hear from have come out of the woodwork to express their strong opinions, this is something rarely witnessed. No matter where
you go, this is a hot topic of conversation .Our neighbor Seaview is also involved in this effort.
This correspondence is not about the details, you have already been hit from all sides. It's about the strong human reaction that decidedly reflects that
what they are hearing and what appears to be reality aren't matching.
Please step back and take a look at what is taking place. Ask yourselves questions such as, Why is the threat (or even just the thought) of extending
the community center receiving the negative reaction that it has? Where is the breakdown in communications between staff and the citizens? Lastly,
what in earth is wrong with this picture?
This is of great importance to our neighborhood, so please handle it with great care.
Regards,
Bill Schurmer
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Matt Waters
From: R. Gene Dewey <rgdewey@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:18 PM
To: Matt Waters
Cc: herbertstark@cox.net; Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; James Flannigan; Mona Dill; CC;
Mary Hirsch
Subject: RE: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Hi Matt,
I have been out of town for a couple of days and will be leaving again later this week. As I mentioned in the meeting
we had with you and staff on Monday, September 26, 2016. That during the work shop on September 22, several
residents spoke out against anything other than an upgrade to the existing buildings, regardless of what the results of
the previous workshop's indicated. Several of the outspoken residents have been active in our community since its
inception and have served many terms on the LLHOA board and volunteer on several committees, such as
Neighborhood Watch, Emergency Preparedness, etc. The residents of the community respect their input.
I sent out a survey after getting numerous e-mails shortly after the Sept 22 workshop. Of the many residents that have
weighed in on this issue all except three are for rebuilding the existing facilities. , are two who responded in favor of a
new small community center and one with not enough information to make a decision.
I suggested at the meeting with you on Monday, Sept 26 that a third alternative be considered, a building with a
footprint equal to what is being utilized now, located close to the existing buildings, but taking advantage of the view of
the ocean and Catalina. I had a call the next day and was told when you and your staff were meeting with another "
Stake Holder" on Tuesday a two story building was mentioned. I am sure you will hear from more Ladera Linda Stake
holders on this matter.
In an e-mail you sent out, in response to one of our residents, you stated there would be one to two part time
employees. At the meeting on Monday Sept 26, the staff was talking about storage for Electric ATV vehicles that could
be recharged, parking for enforcement pickups, offices for several others that will drop in from time to time to do
paperwork. Staff also mentioned that they were considering a gate keeper to monitor traffic in and out of the
complex. That doesn't sound like part time help. I think this has taken on a new complexion after the February 22, work
shop and it may be a good idea to hold another work shop before going much further with the study to see if you can
get some sort of consensus on what our residents desire.
Thanks,
Gene
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW@rpvca.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 5:35 PM
To: R. Gene Dewey
Cc: herbertstark@cox.net; Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; James Flannigan; Mona Dill; CC; Mary Hirsch
Subject: RE: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Hi Gene,
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Hope you're doing well. I think you were cc'd on recent responses to emails from Eric Stevens and Marty Foster. I
believe my responses touched on many of the points you raised in your email so I won't bother repeating them here. I
understand there are significant concerns about the project and I want to assure you that we are committed to working
with the adjacent HOAs and local residents to ensure that this process moves forward efficiently and with maximum
transparency. From the early workshops in 2014 and 2015, staff has done its best to be up front about the details and
timeline of this project. We are as dedicated as you are to bringing Council's directives to reality, namely to see Ladera
Linda be a low-key, neighborhood friendly park that the community can be justly proud of. I worked at Ladera Linda for
over 10 years as a part-time staff and supervisor, so I know just how cherished and wonderful a park it is. Staff is ready
and willing to meet with you to discuss this project in more detail.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattwCab-rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
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e teer!
From: R. Gene Dewey [mailto:rgdewev@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:28 PM
To: Herb Stark <stearman@iuno.com>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Herb,
Would you send the attached document out to all of our residents. Thanks Gene
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Matt Waters
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Dear Mr. Stevens.
Matt Waters
Monday, October 03, 2016 5:22 PM
erstevens@cox.net; cprotem73@cox.ne; tjduhovic@hotmail.com; mizie@cox.net;
briancampbell@gmail.com; susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; CC; Mona Dill
martycrna@cox.net; ': "R. Gene Dewey'; 'edmundo hummel'; 'Jim Lehman'; 'Gary
Randall'; 'barry hildebrand'; 'Bill Foster'; 'Richard Stark'; 'Donald Bell'; 'George Fink';
Jessica Vlaco; 'bill schurmer'; 'Sam Rubino'; j.tetherow@cox.net; 'Tom Smith'; 'Angelows
Angelow'; 'Mike Hansen'; 'Judy Youssef:'; 'Youseff Aelony'; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com;
'Paul Henrikson'; 'Bob Klatt'; 'Herb Stark'; latterpeg@cox.net; 'Chuck Agnew'; 'Amanda
Wong'; Erika Barber; Emeric Rodich (mickeyrodich ; Lenee Bilski; George Fink; Joyce;
jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; Emily McKean; Cory Linder; Mona Dill; James Flannigan; Ron
Dragoo; Mary Hirsch; Daniel Trautner
RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
I am responding to your email about the Ladera Linda Park project. This project has been conducted in an inclusive
manner involving significant and ongoing input from the adjacent HOAs and local residents. Public workshops were
conducted in 2014 and 2015 regarding Ladera Linda as part of the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by the
City Council in October 2015. That plan included the demolition and redesign of Ladera Linda. Because of the strength
and clarity of community involvement and feedback, a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park are not being
considered. The improvements you refer to in your email mirror the community response and Council direction to
maintain a "less is more" approach and keep a low -ley community feel.
In advance of the September 22, 2016 Parks Master Plan workshop, we contacted all adjacent HOAs and mailed flyers to
every resident within a 1000 foot radius of the park, in addition to banners, listsery messages etc... We have also met
with representatives from Seaview and LL HOAs to discuss their concerns in depth. We want to receive community
input at every stage of this process. Staff and RFA did meet with a number of stakeholders, which is a best practice in
any Master Plan effort, but by no means do those stakeholders hold sway over the outcome. We'd rather hear their
opinions early rather than later in the process.
The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which included a recommendation to
demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor condition which earned an "F"
rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty years old with significant
infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
No designs have been created yet for this project. I hope that the local community likes what RFA Consultant comes up
with for this beautiful part of Palos Verdes, but I certainly encourage you to stay involved in the process and voice your
opinions at the upcoming public workshop where residents will be welcome to weigh in on the merits of the two
alternate designs. Your comments will be forwarded to staff and to RFA.
Thank you and please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
To Whom it May Concern:
I am disgusted with the way the City of RPV is going about the Ladera Linda Park Project. Our park is not Hess Park off
the main thoroughfare; which is a central focal point for the hill. The city has gone about the entire process in a long and
convoluted way that is "catawampus" to the community's original purpose of bringing the park into health and safety
conformity. It is a project of divide and conqueror. Instead of bringing leaders together from the adjoining neighborhoods
for the community park and making them the spokespersons for the renewal project by forming a small neighborhood
committee of the true stakeholders the City with their consultant has convened a series of "stakeholders" meetings with
users and undermined the very purpose of the park to serve the community in which the park rests. These groups have
tailor made a list of improvements along with others classified as "stakeholders" to upgrade the park to something the
neighbors DO NOT WANT or NEED. Adding insult to injury the Parks Department with the blessing of the City Council
have approved a $90,000 park improvement plan by an outside consultant from of all places ...Orange County ... a
microcosm of planned communities. What in the world do we need a consultant to tell us what the community wants and
needs. In addition, why would we spend $90,000 for a plan when we do NOT want one! The funds we are giving the
consultant we could use to make the updates and modifications.
In closing, we all moved to this part of the south bay to retreat from urbanization and to make sure we were not invaded
by outsiders. There is no way in our right minds we would have envisioned any building on the park site that would attract
anyone but us locals. We are satisfied with our small local facility and would appreciate some updates to keep it cozy and
hidden like it is now.
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We must solidify to bringing the City to the realization we DO NOT want to move forward with this consultant and want
instead and RFP for a contractor to make bids on repairs and modifications. If we give an inch here we will lose our
community to outsiders.
Sincerely
Edward Stevens
Seaview
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:35 PM
To: R. Gene Dewey
Cc: herbertstark@cox.net; Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; James Flannigan; Mona Dill; CC;
Mary Hirsch
Subject: RE: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Hi Gene,
Hope you're doing well. I think you were cc'd on recent responses to emails from Eric Stevens and Marty Foster. I
believe my responses touched on many of the points you raised in your email so I won't bother repeating them here. I
understand there are significant concerns about the project and I want to assure you that we are committed to working
with the adjacent HOAs and local residents to ensure that this process moves forward efficiently and with maximum
transparency. From the early workshops in 2014 and 2015, staff has done its best to be up front about the details and
timeline of this project. We are as dedicated as you are to bringing Council's directives to reality, namely to see Ladera
Linda be a low-key, neighborhood friendly park that the community can be justly proud of. I worked at Ladera Linda for
over 10 years as a part-time staff and supervisor, so I know just how cherished and wonderful a park it is. Staff is ready
and willing to meet with you to discuss this project in more detail.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(cD_rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: R. Gene Dewey [mailto:rgdewey@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:28 PM
To: Herb Stark <stearman@juno.com>
Cc: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Monday Sept 26, 2016 Meeting with P & R Staff Minutes
Herb,
Would you send the attached document out to all of our residents. Thanks Gene
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Matt Waters
From: Doug Willmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:23 AM
To: martycrna@cox.net; Matt Waters
Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand; bill schurmer;
ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica Vlaco; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino;
j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks@hotmail.com;jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; CC; Ron Dragoo;
James Flannigan; Mona Dill; Daniel Trautner; Mickey Rodich
<mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch; Cory Linder
Subject: RE: Plan for Ladera Linda
Thanks a lot for your commitment to your neighborhood and for communicating your thoughts, Marty. Just so that I can
fully understand what your concerns are - what are you "agreeing to disagree" with in Matt's email?
Regarding why Matt is replying to your email: when an email is sent to cc@rpvca.gov, various staff members (City
Manager, Deputy City Manager, City Attorney, City Clerk, etc.) are also copied on the email, so that staff can respond to
any specific issues, problems, questions, or complaints that may be brought up in the email. A Councilmember cannot
reply to everyone on the email while also copying other Council members, because to do so would be a Brown Act
violation.
-----Original Message -----
From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:25 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster <bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill
schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>; ecarloshum@gmaii.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
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Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>; James Flannigan <JamesF@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Daniel
Trautner <DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch
<MaryH@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
Thanks, Matt
We will just have to agree to disagree.
Matt, I don't think I sent my post to you but rather CC. May I ask how it is that you are replying?
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
> Dear Marty,
> Thank you for your email about the Ladera Linda Community Center Master Plan. I'd like to respond to some of the
points and concerns you have raised about this project.
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> *"More rather than less." Staff and the consultant RFA have taken the Council's "less is more" philosophy to heart.
Even though no designs have been made yet (it is important to note that the project is at an information -gathering
phase), the two designs that will be shown at another public workshop before going to Council will show a community
center that is smaller than the existing buildings. Additionally, a number of major recreation elements have been
purposefully excluded from consideration, including a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park. No elements that
were opposed by the community will be included and the scope of the project has not increased.
> **Survey: You note that a survey has made the rounds showing strong community resistance to this project. Public
workshops and a survey conducted in 2014 and 2015 showed strong community support for this project. The project is
included in the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council in October 2015. The September 22
workshop generated many constructive comments, suggestions, and strong opinions but there was no consensus
expressed there to end the project. It's difficult to be completely for or against this project until the conceptual designs
are complete and made public. No designs have even been created yet for this project, but all comments received,
including the one -question survey, will be forwarded to RFA. Ladera Linda -adjacent residents will have the opportunity
to see and comment on the designs at a subsequent public workshop and again in front of Council.
> **Renovating the buildings: The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which
included a recommendation to demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor
condition which earned an "F" rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty
years old with significant infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
> **City Hall instead of Ladera Linda: City Hall is going through its own Master Plan process, but it is at a very early
stage. Some of the recreation elements that are excluded from the Ladera Linda site may be considered at City Hall
including a gym, pool, and Public Safety components. The site already has a dog park.
> **$7.2million: This design, demolition, and construction estimate was taken from the 2015-16 Capital Improvement
Plan, and was based on a 12,000 sq foot footprint to be funded by Capital Improvement Plan Reserves. The CIP cost
calculation is admittedly just an estimate but it does include many of the elements being discussed currently:
restrooms, multi-purpose rooms, activity rooms, landscaping, irrigation, discovery rooms, and a ranger/Sheriff drop-in
office. A new cost estimate will be developed by RFA as part of the LL Park Master Plan process.
> **15 employees: This total, which was the result of a meeting with Ladera Linda Homeowner representatives and City
staff is misleading. Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time staff at a time who is overseen by a full-time
Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase staffing to two part-time staff at a time with one full-time
Supervisor. This is comparable to staff levels at Hesse Park and PVIC. The fifteen is a mix of Sheriff personnel and Open
Space Management Staff who would only use their office for drop-in use since the vast majority of their time will be
spent enforcing rules and monitoring the Preserve. Several volunteer docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour
of the Discovery/Nature room or work on artifacts as they do now. This adds up to 15, but actual staffing levels would
only increase from 2 to 3.
> **"LL will be a very busy place" Staff and RFA, following the lead of Council and the community, are not proposing
additional uses. The building footprint and square footage will be smaller. Parking will be improved. There will still be
"green space and a safe place for children to play." There's already a nature center and a Sheriff and Open Space
Management crew drop in office there now. There will still be classes, HOA meetings, summer camps, and paddle
tennis. City staff will work closely with residents to create clear policies to set limits on hours, noise, and usage to help
maintain the low-key neighborhood feel.
> I encourage you to continue to be a part of the process as it moves forward because local resident input is crucial to
the success of this project. I personally appreciate your obvious pride in this wonderful part of the RPV community. Feel
free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
> Sincerely,
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> Matt Waters
> Senior Administrative Analyst
> City of Rancho Palos Verdes
> Recreation and Parks Department
> 30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
> Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
> www.palosverdes.com/rpv
> mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p - (310) 544-5291 f
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:01 PM
> To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
> Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Bill Foster
<bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>;
ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net; herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica
Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino <IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net;
tsks@hotmail.com; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com
> Subject: Plan for Ladera Linda
> Some facts have come to light this week.
> Again, homeowners surrounding LL thought the message was received that'less is more'.
> Apparently not, since LLHOA members learned ' more rather than less' at Monday's meeting with Parks and
Recreation personnel.The scope of the plan is far greater than previously realized.
> A survey has been sent to homeowners in the last few days. Results thus far show 86 % in favor of retaining the
buildings present and refurbishing them.
> At this time, is it possible to get estimates for such repairs and remodeling deemed necessary at LL? Those buildings
have served well for many years. To update them will be a fraction of the cost discussed this far.
> Can the idea be entertained by CC to expand/rebuild city hall and add some park like amenities at that site, diverting
the $7.2 million (gasp) meant for LL?
> The plan at LL includes parking and office space for 15 city employees, parking and space for sheriff park rangers,
interpretive center personnel and open space management employees totaling at least 15 more folks that will inhabit
the center, some 24/7 and at least Monday through Friday. This does not sound like a park or a community center. It
seems more like an extension of City Hall.
F 64
> There are many wonderful groups that would like some permanence at LL. Their work is admirable. However, with all
we have mentioned LL will be a very busy place. The surrounding communities' desire for green space and a safe place
for children to play is usurped by these plans.
> In the current climate of 'green' concerns, let us follow the three R's ... reduce, reuse, and recycle.
> Thank you all as always for the significant work you do for our city.
> Marty Foster
> Sent from my Wad
4 F 65
Matt Waters
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Thanks, Matt.
I do appreciate your outreach.
Marty Foster <martycrna@cox.net>
Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:52 AM
Matt Waters
Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
There is a disconnect unfortunately between what the community vs the city entertains
Best
Marty
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
> Hi Marty,
> Thanks for your response. You are correct, the email was not sent to me directly. Since I am the Recreation point
person on this project, it was forwarded to me for my review. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
> Sincerely,
> Matt
> -----Original Message-----
• From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:25 PM
> To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
> Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster <bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill
schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>; ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino
<IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks@hotmail.com; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>;
Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>; James Flannigan <JamesF@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Daniel
Trautner <DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch
<MaryH@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
> Subject: Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
> Thanks, Matt
> We will just have to agree to disagree.
> Matt, I don't think I sent my post to you but rather CC. May I ask how it is that you are replying?
1 F 66
> Sent from my iPad
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
>> Dear Marty,
>> Thank you for your email about the Ladera Linda Community Center Master Plan. I'd like to respond to some of the
points and concerns you have raised about this project.
>> *"More rather than less." Staff and the consultant RFA have taken the Council's "less is more" philosophy to heart.
Even though no designs have been made yet (it is important to note that the project is at an information -gathering
phase), the two designs that will be shown at another public workshop before going to Council will show a community
center that is smaller than the existing buildings. Additionally, a number of major recreation elements have been
purposefully excluded from consideration, including a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park. No elements that
were opposed by the community will be included and the scope of the project has not increased.
>> **Survey: You note that a survey has made the rounds showing strong community resistance to this project. Public
workshops and a survey conducted in 2014 and 2015 showed strong community support for this project. The project is
included in the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council in October 2015. The September 22
workshop generated many constructive comments, suggestions, and strong opinions but there was no consensus
expressed there to end the project. It's difficult to be completely for or against this project until the conceptual designs
are complete and made public. No designs have even been created yet for this project, but all comments received,
including the one -question survey, will be forwarded to RFA. Ladera Linda -adjacent residents will have the opportunity
to see and comment on the designs at a subsequent public workshop and again in front of Council.
>> **Renovating the buildings: The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which
included a recommendation to demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor
condition which earned an "F" rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty
years old with significant infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
>> **City Hall instead of Ladera Linda: City Hall is going through its own Master Plan process, but it is at a very early
stage. Some of the recreation elements that are excluded from the Ladera Linda site may be considered at City Hall
including a gym, pool, and Public Safety components. The site already has a dog park.
>> **$7.2million: This design, demolition, and construction estimate was taken from the 2015-16 Capital Improvement
Plan, and was based on a 12,000 sq foot footprint to be funded by Capital Improvement Plan Reserves. The CIP cost
calculation is admittedly just an estimate but it does include many of the elements being discussed currently:
restrooms, multi-purpose rooms, activity rooms, landscaping, irrigation, discovery rooms, and a ranger/Sheriff drop-in
office. A new cost estimate will be developed by RFA as part of the LL Park Master Plan process.
>> **15 employees: This total, which was the result of a meeting with Ladera Linda Homeowner representatives and
City staff is misleading. Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time staff at a time who is overseen by a full-time
Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase staffing to two part-time staff at a time with one full-time
Supervisor. This is comparable to staff levels at Hesse Park and PVIC. The fifteen is a mix of Sheriff personnel and Open
Space Management Staff who would only use their office for drop-in use since the vast majority of their time will be
spent enforcing rules and monitoring the Preserve. Several volunteer docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour
of the Discovery/Nature room or work on artifacts as they do now. This adds up to 15, but actual staffing levels would
only increase from 2 to 3.
a>
>> **"LL will be a very busy place" Staff and RFA, following the lead of Council and the community, are not proposing
additional uses. The building footprint and square footage will be smaller. Parking will be improved. There will still be
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"green space and a safe place for children to play." There's already a nature center and a Sheriff and Open Space
Management crew drop in office there now. There will still be classes, HOA meetings, summer camps, and paddle
tennis. City staff will work closely with residents to create clear policies to set limits on hours, noise, and usage to help
maintain the low-key neighborhood feel.
>> I encourage you to continue to be a part of the process as it moves forward because local resident input is crucial to
the success of this project. I personally appreciate your obvious pride in this wonderful part of the RPV community. Feel
free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
>> Sincerely,
>> Matt Waters
>> Senior Administrative Analyst
>> City of Rancho Palos Verdes
>> Recreation and Parks Department
>> 30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
>> Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
>> www.palosverdes.com/rpv
>> mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p - (310) 544-5291 f
>> -----Original Message-----
» From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:01 PM
>> To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
>> Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Bill Foster
<bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill schurmer<sbschurm@yahoo.com>;
ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net; herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica
Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino <IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net;
tsks@hotmail.com; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Plan for Ladera Linda
>> Some facts have come to light this week.
>> Again, homeowners surrounding LL thought the message was received that 'less is more'.
>> Apparently not, since LLHOA members learned ' more rather than less' at Monday's meeting with Parks and
Recreation personnel.The scope of the plan is far greater than previously realized.
>> A survey has been sent to homeowners in the last few days. Results thus far show 86 % in favor of retaining the
buildings present and refurbishing them.
>> At this time, is it possible to get estimates for such repairs and remodeling deemed necessary at LL? Those buildings
have served well for many years. To update them will be a fraction of the cost discussed this far.
3 F 68
>> Can the idea be entertained by CC to expand/rebuild city hall and add some park like amenities at that site, diverting
the $7.2 million (gasp) meant for LL?
>> The plan at LL includes parking and office space for 15 city employees, parking and space for sheriff park rangers,
interpretive center personnel and open space management employees totaling at least 15 more folks that will inhabit
the center, some 24/7 and at least Monday through Friday. This does not sound like a park or a community center. It
seems more like an extension of City Hall.
>> There are many wonderful groups that would like some permanence at LL. Their work is admirable. However, with all
we have mentioned LL will be a very busy place. The surrounding communities' desire for green space and a safe place
for children to play is usurped by these plans.
>> In the current climate of 'green' concerns, let us follow the three R's ... reduce, reuse, and recycle.
>> Thank you all as always for the significant work you do for our city.
>> Marty Foster
>> Sent from my Wad
F 69
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:33 AM
To: 'Marty Foster'
Cc: Cory Linder, Daniel Trautner; James Flannigan; Mona Dill; Mary Hirsch; Ron Dragoo
Subject: RE: Plan for Ladera Linda
Hi Marty,
Happy to discuss any of the disagreements you have with my email to hopefully bridge that disconnect. The elements
for the site are based on feedback from the community. Thanks again for your involvement and I look forward to
working with you.
Matt
-----Original Message -----
From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:52 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
Thanks, Matt.
I do appreciate your outreach.
There is a disconnect unfortunately between what the community vs the city entertains
Best
Marty
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
> Hi Marty,
> Thanks for your response. You are correct, the email was not sent to me directly. Since I am the Recreation point
person on this project, it was forwarded to me for my review. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
> Sincerely,
> Matt
> -----Original Message-----
* From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:25 PM
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> To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
> Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster <bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill
schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>; ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino
<IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks@hotmail.com; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>;
Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>; James Flannigan <JamesF@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Daniel
Trautner <DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch
<MaryH@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
> Subject: Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
> Thanks, Matt
> We will just have to agree to disagree.
> Matt, I don't think I sent my post to you but rather CC. May I ask how it is that you are replying?
> Sent from my iPad
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov> wrote:
>> Dear Marty,
>> Thank you for your email about the Ladera Linda Community Center Master Plan. I'd like to respond to some of the
points and concerns you have raised about this project.
>> *"More rather than less." Staff and the consultant RFA have taken the Council's "less is more" philosophy to heart.
Even though no designs have been made yet (it is important to note that the project is at an information -gathering
phase), the two designs that will be shown at another public workshop before going to Council will show a community
center that is smaller than the existing buildings. Additionally, a number of major recreation elements have been
purposefully excluded from consideration, including a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park. No elements that
were opposed by the community will be included and the scope of the project has not increased.
>> **Survey: You note that a survey has made the rounds showing strong community resistance to this project. Public
workshops and a survey conducted in 2014 and 2015 showed strong community support for this project. The project is
included in the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council in October 2015. The September 22
workshop generated many constructive comments, suggestions, and strong opinions but there was no consensus
expressed there to end the project. It's difficult to be completely for or against this project until the conceptual designs
are complete and made public. No designs have even been created yet for this project, but all comments received,
including the one -question survey, will be forwarded to RFA. Ladera Linda -adjacent residents will have the opportunity
to see and comment on the designs at a subsequent public workshop and again in front of Council.
>> **Renovating the buildings: The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which
included a recommendation to demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor
condition which earned an "F" rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty
years old with significant infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
>> **City Hall instead of Ladera Linda: City Hall is going through its own Master Plan process, but it is at a very early
stage. Some of the recreation elements that are excluded from the Ladera Linda site may be considered at City Hall
including a gym, pool, and Public Safety components. The site already has a dog park.
>> **$7.2million: This design, demolition, and construction estimate was taken from the 2015-16 Capital Improvement
Plan, and was based on a 12,000 sq foot footprint to be funded by Capital Improvement Plan Reserves. The CIP cost
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calculation is admittedly just an estimate but it does include many of the elements being discussed currently:
restrooms, multi-purpose rooms, activity rooms, landscaping, irrigation, discovery rooms, and a ranger/Sheriff drop-in
office. A new cost estimate will be developed by RFA as part of the LL Park Master Plan process.
>> **15 employees: This total, which was the result of a meeting with Ladera Linda Homeowner representatives and
City staff is misleading. Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time staff at a time who is overseen by a full-time
Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase staffing to two part-time staff at a time with one full-time
Supervisor. This is comparable to staff levels at Hesse Park and PVIC. The fifteen is a mix of Sheriff personnel and Open
Space Management Staff who would only use their office for drop-in use since the vast majority of their time will be
spent enforcing rules and monitoring the Preserve. Several volunteer docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour
of the Discovery/Nature room or work on artifacts as they do now. This adds up to 15, but actual staffing levels would
only increase from 2 to 3.
>> **"LL will be a very busy place" Staff and RFA, following the lead of Council and the community, are not proposing
additional uses. The building footprint and square footage will be smaller. Parking will be improved. There will still be
"green space and a safe place for children to play." There's already a nature center and a Sheriff and Open Space
Management crew drop in office there now. There will still be classes, HOA meetings, summer camps, and paddle
tennis. City staff will work closely with residents to create clear policies to set limits on hours, noise, and usage to help
maintain the low-key neighborhood feel.
>> I encourage you to continue to be a part of the process as it moves forward because local resident input is crucial to
the success of this project. I personally appreciate your obvious pride in this wonderful part of the RPV community. Feel
free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
>> Sincerely,
>> Matt Waters
>> Senior Administrative Analyst
>> City of Rancho Palos Verdes
>> Recreation and Parks Department
>> 30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
>> Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
>> www.palosverdes.com/rpv
>> mattw@rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p - (310) 544-5291 f
>> -----Original Message-----
» From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrna@cox.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:01 PM
>> To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>
>> Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Bill Foster
<bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>;
ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net; herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica
Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino <IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net;
tsks@hotmaii.com; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com
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>> Subject: Plan for Ladera Linda
>> Some facts have come to light this week.
>> Again, homeowners surrounding LL thought the message was received that'less is more'.
>> Apparently not, since LLHOA members learned ' more rather than less' at Monday's meeting with Parks and
Recreation personnel.The scope of the plan is far greater than previously realized.
>> A survey has been sent to homeowners in the last few days. Results thus far show 86 % in favor of retaining the
buildings present and refurbishing them.
>> At this time, is it possible to get estimates for such repairs and remodeling deemed necessary at LL? Those buildings
have served well for many years. To update them will be a fraction of the cost discussed this far.
>> Can the idea be entertained by CC to expand/rebuild city hall and add some park like amenities at that site, diverting
the $7.2 million (gasp) meant for LL?
>> The plan at LL includes parking and office space for 15 city employees, parking and space for sheriff park rangers,
interpretive center personnel and open space management employees totaling at least 15 more folks that will inhabit
the center, some 24/7 and at least Monday through Friday. This does not sound like a park or a community center. It
seems more like an extension of City Hall.
>> There are many wonderful groups that would like some permanence at LL. Their work is admirable. However, with all
we have mentioned LL will be a very busy place. The surrounding communities' desire for green space and a safe place
for children to play is usurped by these plans.
>> In the current climate of 'green' concerns, let us follow the three R's ... reduce, reuse, and recycle.
>> Thank you all as always for the significant work you do for our city.
>> Marty Foster
>> Sent from my Wad
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:49 AM
To:
jack fleming; martycrna@cox.net
Cc:
rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand; bill schurmer;
ecarloshum@gmail.com;jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica Vlaco; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino;
j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks@hotmail.com; CC; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan; Mona Dill;
Daniel Trautner; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch; Cory Linder
Subject:
RE: Plan for Ladera Linda
Hi Jack,
Thanks for your follow-up question. The input and involvement of HOA's, local residents and the RPV community is of
the utmost importance in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan importance. The Council emphasized this during the Parks
Master Plan process with their "less is more" philosophy of park projects, maintaining a community/neighborhood feel,
and being respectful and cognizant of park neighbors. That is why we had a public workshop at Ladera Linda which was
mainly attended by local residents and why we have scheduled meetings with HOA representatives. A second public
workshop will be scheduled at Ladera Linda to solicit additional feedback from attendees, the majority of whom I
anticipate will be residents as well.
Regarding stakeholder meetings, it is a best practice in park planning and design to reach out to park users and adjacent
neighbors to ascertain what the current use levels are at the site and to identify any particular issues. That is why we
reached out to the Docents, YMCA, park instructors, PVPLC, Las Candalistas, PVPUSD, Lomita Sheriff, and LA County
Fire. They don't have a vote in the process; that is reserved for the City Council, but we do want to hear from them as
part of the process.
I hope this addresses your question. Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: jack fleming[mailto:jjfleming2000@yahoo.comj
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:26 PM
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To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>; martycrna@cox.net
Cc: rgdewey@cox.net; Bill Foster <bfos@cox.net>; grapecon@cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde@aol.com>; bill
schurmer <sbschurm@yahoo.com>; ecarloshum@gmail.com; jimlehman@mac.com; dimarstark@cox.net;
herbertstark@cox.net; gfinkll@cox.net; Jessica Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpv@gmail.com; sam rubino
<IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks@hotmail.com; CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo
<RonD@rpvca.gov>; lames Flannigan <JamesF@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Daniel Trautner
<DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch
<MaryH@rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Re: Plan for Ladera Linda
Hi Matt,
Thank you for your response. Would you please address the stakeholder issue? The only stakeholders in the
project are the residents of the four homeowner associations; the YMCA, Red Cross, Sheriff and other groups
are tenants and should not have a voice or vote in the design of the project.
Best,
Jack Fleming
REALTOR and CPA
310-748-5206
License # 01946212
RE/MAX Estate Properties
oh by the way .... I'm never too busy for your referrals!
From: Matt Waters <MattW(o.rpvca.gov>
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Cc: "rgdewey(a)cox.net" <rgdewey(@cox.net>; Bill Foster <bfos(a)_cox.net>; "grapecon(a),cox.net" <grapecon cox.net>;
barry hildebrand <bjhilde(a.aol.com>; bill schurmer <sbschurm(ayahoo.com>; "ecarloshum(o-)_gmail. com"
<ecarloshum(5_)gmail. com>; "jimlehman�a mac.com" <iimlehman(a mac.com>; "dimarstark a.cox.net"
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<jjfleming2000(acr�jc yahoo.com>; CC <CC(a-rpvca.gov>; Ron Dragoo <RonD(q-)_rpvca.gov>; James Flannigan
<JamesF(a rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD a(�.rpvca.gov>; Daniel Trautner <DanielT(�i_)rpvca.gov>; "Mickey Rodich
<mickeyrodich(@gmail.com>" <mickeyrodich(b_gmail.com>; Mary Hirsch <MaryH(a.rpvca.gov>; Cory Linder
<CorvL(a_rpvca_gov>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 4:58 PM
Subject: FW: Plan for Ladera Linda
Dear Marty,
Thank you for your email about the Ladera Linda Community Center Master Plan. I'd like to respond to some
of the points and concerns you have raised about this project.
*"More rather than less." Staff and the consultant RFA have taken the Council's "less is more" philosophy to
heart. Even though no designs have been made yet (it is important to note that the project is at an information -
gathering phase), the two designs that will be shown at another public workshop before going to Council will
show a community center that is smaller than the existing buildings. Additionally, a number of major recreation
elements have been purposefully excluded from consideration, including a gymnasium, pool, dog park and
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skate park. No elements that were opposed by the community will be included and the scope of the project has
not increased.
**Survey: You note that a survey has made the rounds showing strong community resistance to this
project. Public workshops and a survey conducted in 2014 and 2015 showed strong community support for this
project. The project is included in the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by City Council in October
2015. The September 22 workshop generated many constructive comments, suggestions, and strong opinions
but there was no consensus expressed there to end the project. It's difficult to be completely for or against this
project until the conceptual designs are complete and made public. No designs have even been created yet for
this project, but all comments received, including the one -question survey, will be forwarded to RFA. Ladera
Linda -adjacent residents will have the opportunity to see and comment on the designs at a subsequent public
workshop and again in front of Council.
**Renovating the buildings: The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda
which included a recommendation to demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the
building's poor condition which earned an "F" rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary
buildings that are now fifty years old with significant infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
**City Hall instead of Ladera Linda: City Hall is going through its own Master Plan process, but it is at a very
early stage. Some of the recreation elements that are excluded from the Ladera Linda site may be considered at
City Hall including a gym, pool, and Public Safety components. The site already has a dog park.
**$7.2million: This design, demolition, and construction estimate was taken from the 2015-16 Capital
Improvement Plan, and was based on a 12,000 sq foot footprint to be funded by Capital Improvement Plan
Reserves. The CIP cost calculation is admittedly just an estimate but it does include many of the elements
being discussed currently: restrooms, multi-purpose rooms, activity rooms, landscaping, irrigation, discovery
rooms, and a ranger/Sheriff drop-in office. A new cost estimate will be developed by RFA as part of the LL
Park Master Plan process.
* * 15 employees: This total, which was the result of a meeting with Ladera Linda Homeowner representatives
and City staff is misleading. Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time staff at a time who is overseen
by a full-time Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase staffing to two part-time staff at a
time with one full-time Supervisor. This is comparable to staff levels at Hesse Park and PVIC. The fifteen is a
mix of Sheriff personnel and Open Space Management Staff who would only use their office for drop-in use
since the vast majority of their time will be spent enforcing rules and monitoring the Preserve.. Several
volunteer docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour of the Discovery/Nature room or work on artifacts
as they do now. This adds up to 15, but actual staffing levels would only increase from 2 to 3.
**"LL will be a very busy place" Staff and RFA, following the lead of Council and the community, are not
proposing additional uses. The building footprint and square footage will be smaller. Parking will be
improved. There will still be "green space and a safe place for children to play." There's already a nature center
and a Sheriff and Open Space Management crew drop in office there now. There will still be classes, HOA
meetings, summer camps, and paddle tennis. City staff will work closely with residents to create clear policies
to set limits on hours, noise, and usage to help maintain the low-key neighborhood feel.
I encourage you to continue to be a part of the process as it moves forward because local resident input is
crucial to the success of this project. I personally appreciate your obvious pride in this wonderful part of the
RPV community. Feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
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Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw@Mvca. ov - (310) 544-5218 p - (310) 544-5291
-----Original Message -----
From: Marty Foster [mailto:martycrnaQcox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:01 PM
To: CC <CCnrpvca. gov>
Cc: r dg ewey&cox.net; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich 2gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; Bill Foster
<bfos@cox.net>; grapecon(a,cox.net; barry hildebrand <bjhilde °,aol.com>; bill schurmer
<sbschunn&yahoo.com>; ecarloshum&gmail.com; jimlehman&mac.com; dimarstark(2cox.net;
herbertstarkoa,cox.net;fg mkl I &cox.net; Jessica Vlaco <vlaco5@cox.net>; dwbrpy@gmail.com; sam rubino
<IAMSAMBINO@aol.com>; j.tetherow@cox.net; tsks e hotmail.com; jjflemin 2g 000&yahoo.com
Subject: Plan for Ladera Linda
Some facts have come to light this week.
Again, homeowners surrounding LL thought the message was received that'less is more'.
Apparently not, since LLHOA members learned ' more rather than less' at Monday's meeting with Parks and
Recreation personnel.The scope of the plan is far greater than previously realized.
A survey has been sent to homeowners in the last few days. Results thus far show 86 % in favor of retaining the
buildings present and refurbishing them.
At this time, is it possible to get estimates for such repairs and remodeling deemed necessary at LL? Those
buildings have served well for many years. To update them will be a fraction of the cost discussed this far.
Can the idea be entertained by CC to expand/rebuild city hall and add some park like amenities at that site,
diverting the $7.2 million (gasp) meant for LL?
The plan at LL includes parking and office space for 15 city employees, parking and space for sheriff park
rangers, interpretive center personnel and open space management employees totaling at least 15 more folks
that will inhabit the center, some 24/7 and at least Monday through Friday. This does not sound like a park or a
community center. It seems more like an extension of City Hall.
There are many wonderful groups that would like some permanence at LL. Their work is admirable. However,
with all we have mentioned LL will be a very busy place. The surrounding communities' desire for green space
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and a safe place for children to play is usurped by these plans.
In the current climate of 'green' concerns, let us follow the three R's ... reduce, reuse, and recycle.
Thank you all as always for the significant work you do for our city.
Marty Foster
Sent from my Wad
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 10:07 AM
To: erstevens@cox.net; cprotem73@cox.ne; tjduhovic@hotmail.com; mizie@cox.net;
briancampbell@gmail.com; susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; CC; Mona Dill
Cc: martycrna@cox.net; ': "R. Gene Dewey'; 'edmundo hummel'; 'Jim Lehman'; 'Gary
Randall'; 'barry hildebrand'; 'Bill Foster'; 'Richard Stark'; 'Donald Bell'; 'George Fink';
Jessica Vlaco; 'bill schurmer'; 'Sam Rubino'; j.tetherow@cox.net; 'Tom Smith'; 'Angelows
Angelow'; 'Mike Hansen'; 'Judy Youssef:'; 'Youseff Aelony'; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com;
'Paul Henrikson'; 'Bob Klatt'; 'Herb Stark'; latterpeg@cox.net; 'Chuck Agnew'; 'Amanda
Wong'; 'Erika Barber'; 'Emeric Rodich (mickeyrodich '; 'Lenee Bilski'; 'George Fink';
'Joyce'; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; 'Emily McKean'; Cory Linder; Mona Dill; James
Flannigan; Ron Dragoo; Mary Hirsch; Daniel Trautner; aliderek@gmail.com; Margaret
Moilov; Liz
Subject: RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Hi Ed,
Thanks for the follow-up email. The current building at Ladera Linda total 18,000 sq ft, but the City
and RFA have not created any specific plans for the site or determined square footage. At the 9-22
public workshop and subsequent meetings with LL and Seaview HOAs, RFA opined that the square
footage would likely be less than the current size which was designed for an elementary site not a
community center. Possible elements for Ladera Linda that Hesse Park does not have include a
nature room, sheriff/Open space drop in office, and additional storage. Actual meeting room space
could be similar to Hesse Park with one larger room and several smaller spaces for meetings and
classes. But again, RFA and staff are in an information gathering phase right now, there is no design
in place. The two alternative designs will be available for community review at a public workshop and
again at a Council meeting.
The intent is to maintain a low-key community feeling at the site, not a County -wide attraction. That is
why a gym, pool, dog park, and skate park are not included. That is why there will be clear policies
limiting the number and type of activities and the hours. That is also why the elements and activities
being considered match current uses at the park.
Regarding staffing, there is some confusion about this issue that I'd like to address. The "15" total,
which was the result of a meeting with Ladera Linda Homeowner representatives and City staff is
misleading. Ladera Linda is currently staffed by one part-time staff at a time who is overseen by a
full-time Recreation Supervisor. The new building would likely increase staffing to two part-time staff
at a time with one full-time Supervisor. This is comparable to staff levels at Hesse Park and
PVIC. The fifteen is a mix of Sheriff personnel and Open Space Management Staff who would only
use their office for drop-in use since the vast majority of their time will be spent enforcing rules and
monitoring the Preserve. Several volunteer docents might stop by occasionally to lead a tour of the
Discovery/Nature room or work on artifacts as they do now. This adds up to 15, but actual staffing
levels would only increase from 2 to 3.
Happy to address any follow-up questions or concerns.
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www. palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(Qrpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
Subject: RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Dear Mr. Waters,
I was just thinking that if the P&R decide to build a 2 story 18,000 sq. ft. Community Center it will almost be double the
size of the Hess Park Center.
Is this what we want for our quiet secluded neighborhood?
TOO OPEN IT UP to all of LA County?
Do we really want all this going on at Ladera Linda Park?
This should be going on at City Hall or at Hess Park.
Wow
Dan said they need room for as many as 15 employees using various offices in the new building, 2 Sheriff Park Rangers,
2-3 Direct Staff for management, 6 to 7 open space management employees, 2 to 3 museum and interpretive center
personal. They have identified the "Stake Holders" as The Land Conservancy/Docents/Enforcement staff/Mommy and
me classes/yoga/ YMCA/ Los Serranos and all four surrounding HOA's. The Sheriff Park rangers need space to store and
charge their electric vehicles. They need space for the ranger's pickups, etc. There is a need for considerable storage for
the Interpretive Center and other organizations that currently store material and artifacts in the existing
buildings. Mickey suggested storage be relocated to other sites closer to the user.
Ed Stevens
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW0)rpvca.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:22 PM
To: erstevens(acox.net; cprotem73@cox.ne; Uduhovic@hotmail.com; mizie(aacox.net; briancampbell(a)gmail.com;
susanbrooks0l(a)yahoo.com; CC; Mona Dill
Cc: martycrna(&cox.net; ': "R. Gene Dewey'; 'edmundo hummel'; 'Jim Lehman'; 'Gary Randall'; 'barry hildebrand'; 'Bill
Foster'; 'Richard Stark'; 'Donald Bell'; 'George Fink'; Jessica Vlaco; 'bill schurmer'; 'Sam Rubino'; jAetherow@cox.net;
'Tom Smith'; 'Angelows Angelow'; 'Mike Hansen'; 'Judy Youssef:'; 'Youseff Aelony'; jjfleming200Wbyahoo.com; 'Paul
Henrikson'; 'Bob Klatt'; 'Herb Stark'; latterpeg@cox.net; 'Chuck Agnew'; 'Amanda Wong'; Erika Barber; Emeric Rodich
(mickeyrodich ; Lenee Bilski; George Fink; Joyce; jjfleming20000yahoo.com; Emily McKean; Cory Linder; Mona Dill;
James Flannigan; Ron Dragoo; Mary Hirsch; Daniel Trautner
Subject: RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Dear Mr. Stevens.
•
I am responding to your email about the Ladera Linda Park project. This project has been conducted in an inclusive
manner involving significant and ongoing input from the adjacent HOAs and local residents. Public workshops were
conducted in 2014 and 2015 regarding Ladera Linda as part of the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by the
City Council in October 2015. That plan included the demolition and redesign of Ladera Linda. Because of the strength
and clarity of community involvement and feedback, a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park are not being
considered. The improvements you refer to in your email mirror the community response and Council direction to
maintain a "less is more" approach and keep a low -ley community feel.
In advance of the September 22, 2016 Parks Master Plan workshop, we contacted all adjacent HOAs and mailed flyers to
every resident within a 1000 foot radius of the park, in addition to banners, listsery messages etc... We have also met
with representatives from Seaview and LL HOAs to discuss their concerns in depth. We want to receive community
input at every stage of this process. Staff and RFA did meet with a number of stakeholders, which is a best practice in
any Master Plan effort, but by no means do those stakeholders hold sway over the outcome. We'd rather hear their
opinions early rather than later in the process.
The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which included a recommendation to
demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor condition which earned an "F"
rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty years old with significant
infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
No designs have been created yet for this project. I hope that the local community likes what RFA Consultant comes up
with for this beautiful part of Palos Verdes, but I certainly encourage you to stay involved in the process and voice your
opinions at the upcoming public workshop where residents will be welcome to weigh in on the merits of the two
alternate designs. Your comments will be forwarded to staff and to RFA.
Thank you and please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rp
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Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
To Whom it May Concern
I am disgusted with the way the City of RPV is going about the Ladera Linda Park Project. Our park is not Hess Park off
the main thoroughfare; which is a central focal point for the hill. The city has gone about the entire process in a long and
convoluted way that is "catawampus" to the community's original purpose of bringing the park into health and safety
conformity. It is a project of divide and conqueror. Instead of bringing leaders together from the adjoining neighborhoods
for the community park and making them the spokespersons for the renewal project by forming a small neighborhood
committee of the true stakeholders the City with their consultant has convened a series of "stakeholders" meetings with
users and undermined the very purpose of the park to serve the community in which the park rests. These groups have
tailor made a list of improvements along with others classified as "stakeholders" to upgrade the park to something the
neighbors DO NOT WANT or NEED. Adding insult to injury the Parks Department with the blessing of the City Council
have approved a $90,000 park improvement plan by an outside consultant from of all places ...Orange County... a
microcosm of planned communities. What in the world do we need a consultant to tell us what the community wants and
needs. In addition, why would we spend $90,000 for a plan when we do NOT want one! The funds we are giving the
consultant we could use to make the updates and modifications.
In closing, we all moved to this part of the south bay to retreat from urbanization and to make sure we were not invaded
by outsiders. There is no way in our right minds we would have envisioned any building on the park site that would attract
anyone but us locals. We are satisfied with our small local facility and would appreciate some updates to keep it cozy and
hidden like it is now.
We must solidify to bringing the City to the realization we DO NOT want to move forward with this consultant and want
instead and RFP for a contractor to make bids on repairs and modifications. If we give an inch here we will lose our
community to outsiders.
Sincerely
Edward Stevens
Seaview
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 10:12 AM
To: Charles Agnew; erstevens@cox.net; cprotem73@cox.ne; tjduhovic@hotmail.com;
mizie@cox.net; briancampbell@gmail.com; susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; CC; Mona Dill
Cc: martycrna@cox.net; ': "R. Gene Dewey'; 'edmundo hummel'; 'Jim Lehman'; 'Gary
Randall'; 'barry hildebrand'; 'Bill Foster'; 'Richard Stark'; 'Donald Bell'; 'George Fink';
Jessica Vlaco; 'bill schurmer'; 'Sam Rubino'; j.tetherow@cox.net; 'Tom Smith'; 'Angelows
Angelow'; 'Mike Hansen'; 'Judy Youssef:'; 'Youseff Aelony'; jjfleming2000@yahoo.com;
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jjfleming2000@yahoo.com; 'Emily McKean'; Cory Linder; Mona Dill; James Flannigan;
Ron Dragoo; Mary Hirsch; Daniel Trautner
Subject: RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Dear Mr. Agnew,
Thank you for your email and for your interest in Ladera Linda Community Center. Based on community feedback and
City Council direction, significant added recreation elements such as a gym, pool, skate park, and dog park are not being
considered for the LL Master Plan process. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns and I
encourage you to stay involved in this process as it moves forward.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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Better,
Dear Mr. Waters.
I am a resident of Ladera Linda.
I want a new building, not a repair of the existing buildings.
The present park is a ghost town, inviting unwanted behavior.
A new community center would be a great addition to the neighborhood.
Having a continual presents with some personnel is strongly desired.
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However, I do not want attractions that would bring in unwanted youth
from outside the neighborhood such as gymnasiums or pools.
Thank You,
Charles Agnew
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattWCa>rpvca.gov]
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susanbrooks0l@yahoo.com; CC; Mona Dill
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Foster'; 'Richard Stark'; 'Donald Bell'; 'George Fink'; Jessica Vlaco; 'bill schurmer'; 'Sam Rubino'; j.tetherow@cox.net;
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Henrikson'; 'Bob Klatt'; 'Herb Stark'; latterpeg@cox.net; 'Chuck Agnew'; 'Amanda Wong'; Erika Barber; Emeric Rodich
(mickeyrodich ; Lenee Bilski; George Fink; Joyce; jifleming2000@yahoo.com; Emily McKean; Cory Linder; Mona Dill;
James Flannigan; Ron Dragoo; Mary Hirsch; Daniel Trautner
Subject: RE: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Dear Mr. Stevens.
I am responding to your email about the Ladera Linda Park project. This project has been conducted in an inclusive
manner involving significant and ongoing input from the adjacent HOAs and local residents. Public workshops were
conducted in 2014 and 2015 regarding Ladera Linda as part of the Parks Master Plan Update that was approved by the
City Council in October 2015. That plan included the demolition and redesign of Ladera Linda. Because of the strength
and clarity of community involvement and feedback, a gymnasium, pool, dog park and skate park are not being
considered. The improvements you refer to in your email mirror the community response and Council direction to
maintain a "less is more" approach and keep a low -ley community feel.
In advance of the September 22, 2016 Parks Master Plan workshop, we contacted all adjacent HOAs and mailed flyers to
every resident within a 1000 foot radius of the park, in addition to banners, listsery messages etc... We have also met
with representatives from Seaview and LL HOAs to discuss their concerns in depth. We want to receive community
input at every stage of this process. Staff and RFA did meet with a number of stakeholders, which is a best practice in
any Master Plan effort, but by no means do those stakeholders hold sway over the outcome. We'd rather hear their
opinions early rather than later in the process.
The City Council approved the current Master Plan process for Ladera Linda which included a recommendation to
demolish the existing buildings and replace them. This was based on the building's poor condition which earned an "F"
rating in a 2013 study. Spending funds to renovate temporary buildings that are now fifty years old with significant
infrastructure problems would not be a solid investment.
No designs have been created yet for this project. I hope that the local community likes what RFA Consultant comes up
with for this beautiful part of Palos Verdes, but I certainly encourage you to stay involved in the process and voice your
opinions at the upcoming public workshop where residents will be welcome to weigh in on the merits of the two
alternate designs. Your comments will be forwarded to staff and to RFA.
Thank you and please feel free to contact me with any additional questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
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Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
Subject: New Ladera Linda Community Center
To Whom it May Concern:
I am disgusted with the way the City of RPV is going about the Ladera Linda Park Project. Our park is not Hess Park off
the main thoroughfare; which is a central focal point for the hill. The city has gone about the entire process in a long and
convoluted way that is "catawampus" to the community's original purpose of bringing the park into health and safety
conformity. It is a project of divide and conqueror. Instead of bringing leaders together from the adjoining neighborhoods
for the community park and making them the spokespersons for the renewal project by forming a small neighborhood
committee of the true stakeholders the City with their consultant has convened a series of "stakeholders" meetings with
users and undermined the very purpose of the park to serve the community in which the park rests. These groups have
tailor made a list of improvements along with others classified as "stakeholders" to upgrade the park to something the
neighbors DO NOT WANT or NEED. Adding insult to injury the Parks Department with the blessing of the City Council
have approved a $90,000 park improvement plan by an outside consultant from of all places ...Orange County... a
microcosm of planned communities. What in the world do we need a consultant to tell us what the community wants and
needs. In addition, why would we spend $90,000 for a plan when we do NOT want one! The funds we are giving the
consultant we could use to make the updates and modifications.
In closing, we all moved to this part of the south bay to retreat from urbanization and to make sure we were not invaded
by outsiders. There is no way in our right minds we would have envisioned any building on the park site that would attract
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anyone but us locals. We are satisfied with our small local facility and would appreciate some updates to keep it cozy and
hidden like it is now.
We must solidify to bringing the City to the realization we DO NOT want to move forward with this consultant and want
instead and RFP for a contractor to make bids on repairs and modifications. If we give an inch here we will lose our
community to outsiders.
Sincerely
Edward Stevens
Seaview
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From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 9:59 AM
To: 'Carol Dygean'
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; Mary Hirsch; Ron Dragoo; James Flannigan
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan - suggest to consider an acquatic center
Dear Ms. Dygean,
Thank you for your interest in the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. My apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I'm
glad to hear that you and your family have used the facilities there in the past.
Unfortunately, the City's Parks Master Plan which was adopted in 2015 does not include a gymnasium or pool at that
site, so those elements are not being considered during the Ladera Linda Park process. Those elements are considered
as possible components at the Point Vicente Park/Civic Center complex which is in the early stages of a Master Plan
process currently. Thank you again for your interest and I encourage you to stay involved in both Master Plan projects
as they move forward.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Carol Dygean [mailto:mcdygean@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:33 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Park Master Plan - suggest to consider an acquatic center
My husband and I reside in the City of Palos Verdes Estates. We have been at the
Ladera Linda sight over the years for various things, like soccer, scout meetings, hiking,
etc.
My husband mentioned last year what a perfect site for an acquatic center. We have a 13
year old daugther that is a competitive swimmer, so we've visited lots of acquatic centers,
including the Rose Bowl acquatic Center, the Acquatic Center in Irvine, Alondra Acquatic
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Center and many college and high school pools. An acquatic center can provide swim
lessons, recreation for all ages (including seniors) and also have an agreement with a
local swim team to train and hold meets. It would be a great thing for the site. It isn't
cheap and requires fundraising and/or grants, though likely there would be interest. EI
Segundo is in the process of partnering with the School Districts for one currently, along
with private donors.
Please consider this possibility as you make plans. It is a facility lacking on the hill right
now.
Carol Dygean
mcdygeancox.net
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 10:01 AM
To: 'Richard Fisher'
Subject: FW: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
FYI
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:58 PM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>; 'Herb Stark' <herbertstark@cox.net>;
'Gene Dewey' <rgdewey@cox.net>; Ron Dragoo <RonD@rpvca.gov>; Mona Dill <MonaD@rpvca.gov>; Daniel Trautner
<DanielT@rpvca.gov>; Leslie Williamson <LeslieW@rpvca.gov>; Mary Hirsch <MaryH@rpvca.gov>
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
Thank you , Matt, for the additional insight. I do think such things as "American Red Cross Evacuation and General
Shelter Location" are probably not known to all the residents (or maybe I just haven't been paying close attention). I
would think that would be an important item to mention. As that type of facility, I would imagine some supplies would
need to be stored there, which would occupy some building "square footage," but realistically that would not be square
footage for any sort of active use other than in the event of a disaster. I think that is an important distinction that might
be helpful for residents to hear.
From: Matt Waters [mailto:MattW(-0rpvca.govI
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:44 PM
To: Gary Randall
Cc: Cory Linder; Doug Willmore; 'Herb Stark'; Gene Dewey; Ron Dragoo; Mona Dill; Daniel Trautner; Leslie Williamson;
Mary Hirsch; Matt Waters
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
Hi Gary,
Good to hear from you and thanks for your email. You raise a number of good points that will certainly be discussed
tonight. I also anticipate significant input from the audience, so our intent is to move quickly through our presentations,
so there'll be ample time for public discussion and questions.
The Powerpoint does broadly outline current uses at Hesse Park during the RFA section of the report (slides 20 and 21).
Ladera Linda currently hosts a wide range of ongoing classes, seasonal camps, a YMCA summer camp, community
meetings, workshops as well as drop in -sports and casual use. Besides classrooms of varying sizes and an MPR, Ladera
Linda also hosts a Discovery Room, and Sheriff/Open Space Management (Preserve Ranger) drop-in offices. Typically,
new community centers are not built with sufficient storage (e.g. Hesse and PVIC) which is an issue to consider early on
in this process. LL is also a designated American Red Cross Evacuation and General Shelter location as well.
Now you are certainly correct that all 18,000 sq feet of LL is likely not ever used at the same time. Based on community
input that has already been received, along with input from tonight's workshop and the professional expertise of our
consultant, it is likely that the two alternative designs will be less than the current 18,000 square feet. That size (and
layout) was intended for an elementary school, not a park and community center. 18,000 is listed as a maximum, not as
a target size. The identified elements of the site, along with topography and other factors, should drive the square
footage, not the other way around.
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We will certainly discuss current usage in general terms tonight as you suggested and follow-up with more detail going
forward. Current usage may not be the best barometer given the condition of the facility, but it certainly is a factor
worth considering.
Hope that was helpful and I look forward to seeing you at tonight's meeting.
Take Care,
Matt
From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 11:13 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder<CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Doug Willmore <DWillmore@rpvca.gov>;'Herb Stark' <herbertstark@cox.net>;
Gene Dewey <rgdewev@cox.net>
Subject: Ladera Linda meeting tonight
Hi Matt
I am looking forward to tonight's meeting regarding the master plan for the Ladera Linda Community Center. Thank
you, also, for publishing the Powerpoint presentation ahead of that meeting.
In looking thru the Powerpoint presentation, I did not see any information about current actual usage of the 18,000
square foot community center in its current state. Perhaps I missed it — it I did, please let me know where that
information is in the reports.
Specifically, I am interested in knowing how much of, and how often, the current 18,000 square foot is being
utilized. Do YMCA day camps use all of the classrooms? Do Fall/Spring rec classes use all of the 18,000 square feet? If
the entire 18,000 square feet is not currently being utilized, or only utilized on very rare occasions, I would think that
would be important information to present so that those in attendance can make informed comments about their
wishes and input for the size of any new community center. For instance, if only 5000 square feet is being utilized, I
would likely be in favor of a community center that has similar square footage to what is currently being utilized (i.e.
5000 square feet), and likely not in favor of an 18,000 square foot facility. Of course, this is just an example, but I think
you can appreciate how current usage information is very important to the residents making informed comments.
I realize this is late input, and that it might be difficult to present specific numbers at tonight's meeting. If you cannot
present specific numbers and statistics, could you at least do the following:
Perhaps generally comment on current usage, and commit to getting specific numbers put together in a
specific timeframe to help in the decision process
2. Commit to, once you have those details, provide the detail to at least everyone who signed in at the meeting
and gave an email address, and solicit their feedback based on that information when it is published?
Thank you for your consideration of this aspect.
I would anticipate a LOT of input from the audience tonight. I am very hopeful that you, Cory, and the consultant will be
given a chance by the audience to get through your presentations first, without interruption, and then that you would
allow a generous amount of time for audience comments. You might even start your presentations by asking the
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Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 10:05 AM
To: 'Gary Randall'
Cc: Cory Linder; Vlaco Jessica; ed hummel; Mickey Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>;
'Herb Stark'; Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; James Flannigan; Ron Dragoo; Mona Dill
Subject: RE: Hike this morning
Hi Gary,
Thank you for these comments about and for your involvement. My apologies for the delay in responding. I will
certainly share your concerns with the other staff who are working on this project as well as RFA.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
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From: Gary Randall [mailto:grapecon@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:00 AM
To: Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Cc: Cory Linder <CoryL@rpvca.gov>; Vlaco Jessica <jvlaco@yahoo.com>; ed hummel <ecarloshum@gmail.com>; Mickey
Rodich <mickeyrodich@gmail.com> <mickeyrodich@gmail.com>; 'Herb Stark' <herbertstark@cox.net>
Subject: Hike this morning
Hi Matt:
Attached is a good example of a large, organized group that came and completely filled the LL Community Center
Parking lot this morning at 7:15 a.m. (and parked a fair way down Forrestal). I estimated 50-60 hikers when they finally
all assembled and headed out, and it's not even Saturday morning! I think it will be extremely important for you,
working with the consultant, to come up with good, creative solutions to ensure parking at any new facility is reserved
for actual users of the facility, not for large groups going on hikes in the preserve. I also trust that, in this process, you
will be thinking about solutions to overflow parking onto Forrestal and onto Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven Drives.
I have suggested in the past that Pirate, Phantom, and Sea Raven should be considered for "parking by permit only"
restrictions, and that perhaps parking along Forrestal be limited to one side only (and perhaps have time limits on it, say
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2 hours maximum). I think this discussion should be occurring now, regardless of any longer term project earmarked for
the community center and park. My views and ideas for a solution may not be exactly the same as other Ladera Linda
residents, but I think the majority of residents feel something needs to be done to improve the current situation.
I am not against the general public utilizing our beautiful parks and hiking trails — after all, these are public areas. I do
not think, however, that the city has any obligation to provide unlimited, or even large amounts, of parking, nor
encourage use of these areas thru social media. It's time to get this situation under control, and also develop some very
good plans for the future community center.
Thank you for your consideration. I do have some additional comments on last night's meeting, but will include those in
a separate email.
Gary
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audience to hold all questions and comments until the end of the presentation and that there will be ample time for
discussion after the presentations.
Again, I look forward to seeing you at tonight's meeting.
Regards
Gary Randall
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Matt Waters
From:
Matt Waters
Sent:
Friday, October 07, 2016 10:15 AM
To:
'Donald Bell'
Cc:
Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; James Flannigan; Ron Dragoo
Subject:
RE: Ladera Linda
Dear Mr. Bell,
Thank you for your email and opinions on the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. I will share your email with other City staff
involved in the project as well as the Design consultant firm, RFA.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpv
mattw(a-)rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Donald Bell [mailto:dwbrpv@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 2:21 PM
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Subject: Ladera Linda
F 95
Dear Council Members,
With respect, we believe a Master Plan for Parks at Ladera Linda is a distorted view of what our city should be
considering. Rancho Palos Verdes has an opportunity to create a City Center at Upper Point Vicente, not some isolated site
for "stakeholder needs" at Ladera Linda.
Many neighborhood meetings held years ago by the Recreation & Parks group encouraged citizens to add to a wish list of
recreational facilities they would use. Swimming pools, basketball courts, skate parks, and other recreation facilities plus
Sheriff Offices were universally supported and were to be centralized. We know ideas have floated for years to modernize and
expand the outdated and cramped facilities of our city government. All this should be done within one expenditure of millions
at the logical Upper Pointe Vicente site.
You must stop the Ladera Linda project now before more money ($7 million?) is wasted. We do not know who made the
decision that the Ladera Linda Buildings got an "F" and needed to be razed. At least instruct R&PD to get real costs for modest
repairs to the existing site to make it safe and useful for current needs. It is not hard to include earthquake upgrade, become
ADA compliant, upgrade HVAC and replace roofing and T -bar ceilings. There is an industry called "Commercial Tennant
Improvement" where you can obtain competitive proposals to save millions that should be used for a new City Center for
Rancho Palos Verdes.
The Recreation and Parks Department is consuming time and money needlessly. As a PUMP Committee member years ago, I
heard city staff considered Non -Reserve public lands as having minimal development except at Upper Point Vicente. We
neither want nor need anything more than exists now at Ladera Linda. We do not want tree removal, more parking, more
structure, more attractions, more storage or more self serving money wasted on consultants or planners. We believe the
statistics used by R&PD to justify the design and plan are skewed and do not represent the true opinions of more than 500
affected voters.
Very Concerned Citizens,
Donald and Carolyn Bell
3571 Vigilance Drive
Ladera Linda
F 96
Matt Waters
From: Matt Waters
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 10:18 AM
To: 'Lenee Bilski'
Cc: Cory Linder; Daniel Trautner; Mona Dill; James Flannigan; Ron Dragoo
Subject: RE: Ladera Linda Parksite
Dear Ms. Bilski,
Thank you for your email and opinions on the Ladera Linda Park Master Plan. I will share your email with other City staff
involved in the project as well as the Design consultant firm, RFA.
Sincerely,
Matt Waters
Senior Administrative Analyst
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Recreation and Parks Department
30940 Hawthorne Blvd.
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
www.palosverdes.com/rpy
mattes rpvca.gov - (310) 544-5218 p — (310) 544-5291 f
From: Lenee Bilski [mailto:leneebilski@hotmail.comj
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: CC <CC@rpvca.gov>; Matt Waters <MattW@rpvca.gov>
Subject: Ladera Linda Parksite
Oct. 4, 2016
Dear Mayor Dida , Councilmembers and city staff,
I attended the Sept. 22nd Ladera Linda Workshop mtg. which was well publicized.
I did not receive notice of a Sept. 26th mtg. for SeaView.
The city staff listed renters (yoga instruction, Mommy & Me classes, YMCA, etc.) among the "stakeholders"
which I believe is unfair! The residents, especially those in the surrounding neighborhoods, are the
"stakeholders". The needs of the Red Cross, Sheriff Dept. at LL are understandable and should be included in
the plans.
F 97
I do not believe that organizations/individuals renting the current site are "stakeholders" to be consulted
about future plans for the parksite. Did the City consider the Montesorri school located on the site a
"stakeholder" ? I don't think so.
Is the city staff trying to use our parks to raise money through rentals??? It appears that way.
Another question I heard was why does the city use social media to publicize our parks to the general public
in southern California area???
I believe the residents of SeaView, especially on Dauntless Dr., will be impacted by development plans for
Ladera Linda as well as the Ladera Linda area residents. It could be a very negative impact.
I would suggest that the City change it's slogan from"less is more" to
"LESS is BETTER".
Thank you for your consideration of my comments and questions.
Ever vigilant,
Lenee Bilski
SeaView resident
2 F 98
Job 090-001
Acres:
Estimate Jim Collison / Dick Fisher
Estimate Of Probable
Construction Costs Worksheet
Project: Ladera Linda Community Park Concept'A'
Client: City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Date: 7/18/2017
ITEM
NO #
ITEM DESCRIPTION
QUANTITY
UNIT
UNIT
PRICE
TOTAL
1
Mobilization
1
LS
$350,000.00
$350,000
2
Demolition
1
LS
$120,000.00
$120,000
3
Hazzardous Material Removal Allowance
1
LS
$150,000.00
$150,000
4
Tree & Shrub Removal (perimeter)
27,000
SF
$0.25
$6,750
5
Clearing & Grubbing
1
LS
$8,000.00
$8,000
6
Grading
6,844
CY
$30.00
$205,320
7
Drainage
1
LS
$60,000.00
$60,000
8
Retaining Walls at Basketball Courts
130
LF
$200.00
$26,000
9
Rock Retaining Walls at Playground Area
100
LF
$120.00
$12,000
10
New Driveway Apron
191
SF
$7.00
$1,337
11
AC Paving 3"
1,126
Tons
$100.00
$112,600
12
Aggregate Base 4"
677
CY
$65.00
$44,005
13
Concrete Curb
1,181
LF
$25.00
$29,525
14
Concrete Curb & Gutter
1,049
LF
$40.00
$41,960
15
Concrete Mow Strip
424
LF
$12.00
$5,088
16
Security Lighting
23
EA
$8,000.00
$184,000
17
Parking Lot Lighting
22
EA
$7,000.00
$154,000
18
Parking Lot Striping
1
LS
$14,000.00
$14,000
19
Concrete Walkway (6")
42,626
SF
$8.00
$341,008
20
Concrete Parkway Walkway (4")
6,383
SF
$6.50
$41,490
21
Concrete Full Basketball Court
1
LS
$55,000.00
$55,000
22
Concrete Half Basketball Court
1
LS
$30,000.00
$30,000
23
Handicap Access Ramp
2
EA
$5,000.00
$10,000
24
Handicap Signage
4
EA
$300.00
$1,200
25
Enhanced Paving
6,505
SF
$15.00
$97,575
26
Play Area Curb
687
LF
$30.00
$20,610
27
Playground Equipment
1
LS
$200,000.00
$200,000
28
Playground Resilient Surfacing
8,470
SF
$15.00
$127,050
29
Group Picnic Shelter
1
LS
$55,000.00
$55,000
30
Butterfly Garden
2,510
SF
$1.50
$3,765
31
Bridge (261 sf)
1
LS
$6,000.00
$6,000
32
Stairs (185 sf)
1
LS
$15,000.00
$15,000
33
Dry Stream
698
SF
$10.00
$6,980
34
Large Boulders Placement (Boulders Provided by City)
39
EA
$200.00
$7,800
35
Medium Boulders Placement (Boulders Provided by
34
EA
$150.00
$5,100
36
Community Center Building
1
LS
$4,222,500.00
$4,222,500
37
Storage Building
1
LS
$250,000.00
$250,000
38
Trash Enclosure
1
LS
$16,000.00
$16,000
39
Utilities
1
LS
$65,000.00
$65,000
40
New Park Sign
1
LS
$12,000.00
$12,000
41
Boulders Relocation
1
LS
$3,000.00
$3,000
42
Drinking Fountain
2
EA
$9,000.00
$18,000
43
1 Picnic Table
13
EA
$2,500.00
$32,500
SUB TOTAL (Items 1-43)
$7,167,163
G1
Job
No.: 090-001
Acres: _
Estimate
Jim Collison / Dick Fisher
(cont)
Estimate Of Probable
Construction Costs Worksheet
Project: Ladera Linda Community Park Concept'A'
Client: City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Date: 7/18/2017
ITEM
NO #
ITEM DESCRIPTION
QUANTITY
UNIT
UNIT PRICE
TOTAL
44
6' Bench
31
EA $1,500.00
$46,500
45
4' Bench
8
EA $1,300.00
$10,400
46
Chair
16
EA $1,000.00
$16,000
47
Chainlink Fence
1,407
LF $80.00
$112,560
48
Wood Post & Metal Fencing
1,383
LF $20.00
$27,660
49
Removable Bollards
2
EA $800.00
$1,600
50
Automatic (Overhead) Irrigation System
185,072
SF $1.50
$277,608
51
Weed Abatement
185,072
SF $0.10
$18,507
52
Soil Prep / Fine Grading
185,072
SF $0.25
$46,268
53
Shrub Planting
133,194
SF $0.85
$113,215
54
Slope Shrub Replacement
26,695
SF $0.85
$22,691
55
3" Layer Wood Mulch
1,237
CY $50.00
$61,850
56
Hydroseeded Turf
51,878
SF $1.00
$51,878
57
24" Box Tree
105
EA $275.00
$28,875
58
1120 -Day Maintenance
1
LS $5,000.00
$5,000
SUB TOTAL (Items 44-58)
$840,612
SUB TOTAL (Items 1-43)
$7,167,163
TOTAL
$8,007,774
10% CONTIGENCY
$800,777
TOTAL
$8,808,552
IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FUNDED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS
ITEM
NO #
ITEM DESCRIPTION
QUANTITY
UNIT
UNIT PRICE
TOTAL
59
AC Paving 3"
109
Tons $100.00
$10,900
60
Aggregate Base 4"
65
CY $65.00
$4,225
61
Concrete Curb & Gutter
422
LF $40.00
$16,880
62
Parking Lot Striping
1
LS $6,000.00
$6,000
63
Concrete Parkway Walkway (4")
1,841
SF $6.50
$11,967
64
1 Irrigation System and Planting
1,362
1 SF 1 $3.85
$5,244
SUB TOTAL (Items 59-64)
$55,215
10% CONTIGENCY
$5,525
TOTAL
$60,740
G2