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Approved 6/27/17_
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 13, 2017
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman James at 7:05 p.m.at the Fred Hesse
Community Room, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Director Mihranian led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.
ATTENDANCE
Present: Commissioners Bradley, Emenhiser, Leon, Nelson, Tomblin, and Vice
Chairman James.
Absent: Chairman Cruikshank was excused.
Also present were Community Development Director Mihranian, Deputy Director Kim,
Senior Planner Alvarez, and Assistant City Attorney Gerli.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was unanimously approved as presented.
COMMUNICATIONS
Director Mihranian reported that the City Council is in the process of considering initiating
various Staff-proposed code amendment proceedings to amend certain sections of the
Development Code to correct inconsistencies and to provide further clarification. The
Planning Commission will be reviewing the proposed amended language this summer in
order to forward a recommendation for the Council's consideration late this year. He
reported that the Planning Commission will be considering later this summer an
amendment to the Land Use Map and the Zoning Map as part of the City's consideration
to annex three properties on Rue La Charlene. The Director also reported that at the
June 6th meeting, the City Council continued to a date uncertain, the introduction of an
Ordinance that would amend the City's Fire Code, due to concerns on how the amended
Fire Code would impact property owners. Lastly, Director Mihranian reported that the
City Council will consider an appeal of the Commission's approval of a new single-family
residence on Rolling Ridge Road at its June 20th meeting. He noted the appeal pertains
to a condition related to view protection.
Director Mihranian noted that late correspondence was distributed for Agenda Item Nos.
2 and 3, and reminded the Commission that a mandatory sexual harassment training
course will be held at Hesse Park on August 29th at 7:00 p.m.
Commissioner Emenhiser announced his and Chairman Cruikshank's candidacy for City
Council in November.
Commissioner Tomblin noted that he has received several inquiries regarding the
Commission's review of Wireless Telecommunication Facilities in the public right-of-way,
and would discuss this later in the meeting under Future Agenda Items.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (regarding non-agenda item):
Gene Steiger expressed his opposition to a proposed cell site at 28809 Crestridge Road.
He described the mock-up that is directly opposite his driveway indicating that the facility
will be visible from many rooms in his home. He explained that this neighborhood has
underground utilities, so there are no wires or poles in the view frame. He felt that the
cell site tower and large equipment box violates neighborhood compatibility guidelines
and will impact the property values in the neighborhood. He felt a more suitable site can
be found, and invited the Commissioners to come by his home to see how it will impact
his home.
Jeff Calvagna stated he is an electrical frequency engineer, and has spoken before the
City Council and the Palos Verdes Estates Planning Commission many times in regards
to the cell sites. He stated the proposal that will be before the Commission does not meet
the requirements of the City Ordinances. He asked the Commission to review Sections
under Title 12 of the City's codes in regards to cell sites.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approval of the May 9, 2017 Minutes
Commissioners Emenhiser, Leon, and Tomblin noted they were not in attendance at this
meeting and would have to recuse themselves from the vote.
Commissioner James noted a clarification on page 1 of the minutes.
Director Mihranian noted that there was not a quorum to vote on the minutes, and that
the corrected May 9th minutes will be brought back for the Commission's approval at the
June 27th meeting.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Height Variation, Grading Permit and Site Plan Review (Case No ZON2016-
00162): 30717 Rue Langlois
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Director Mihranian presented a brief staff report, explaining that at the May 9th Planning
Commission meeting, the Commission moved to approve the project as modified by the
applicant and directed Staff to return with a Resolution for adoption this evening. He
stated the Commission closed the public hearing at the May 9th meeting, and he noted
there is one speaker present who would like to speak on this item tonight. He explained
it is at the Commission's pleasure as to whether or not they want to open the public
hearing to hear public testimony.
Commissioner Nelson stated that the public hearing has been closed, and he would prefer
that it remain closed.
Vice Chairman James agreed that was procedurally the correct way to go about this,
however he also noted the Commission is here to serve the public and a member of the
public is requesting to speak.
Commissioner Leon felt that the Commission should remain transparent, and if there is a
request to speak, the request should be granted.
Commissioner James reopened the public hearing.
Yantien Wong stated she was seeking clarification on the Commission's explanation of
appropriate neighborhood scale. She stated that at the first public hearing the
Commission seemed to agree that the design was not in scale with the neighborhood, yet
at the second public hearing the house was approved even though it is proposed as a
two-story house at 4,500 square feet. She stated that she did not feel this redesigned
project is to scale with the rest of the neighborhood. She asked that the Commission
state, for the record, that a 4,500 square foot two-story house is compatible with the
neighborhood. She stated that if the Commission cannot make that statement, the project
should be appealed, and she should not have to pay for that appeal. She stated that she
may eventually remodel her home and wanted to know what the parameters to do so
would be in terms of the size and height of the proposed home.
Commissioner James asked Staff if it was appropriate for the Commission to attempt to
respond to the speaker.
Director Mihranian stated that he felt the Commission has responded to the speaker's
concerns as reflected in the Resolution. He stated the Resolution findings discusses the
project's compatibility with the neighborhood in terms of size and bulk and mass.
Commissioner Emenhiser explained that a quantifiable window or envelope has not been
established through a ratio process. Therefore, what the speaker is asking for under the
current rules, is not something the Commission can give.
Vice Chairman James stated the process is subjective, which is why there is a Planning
Commission to make these decisions based on the City's Code.
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Vice Chairman James closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Nelson moved to approve and adopt Staff's recommendation.
Assistant City Attorney Gerli explained there are three Commissioners present who were
not present at the May 9th meeting when the decision was made. However, she stated
that if the Commissioners read the staff report and watched the video and are familiar
with the entirety of the record they may vote on the passage of the Resolution.
Commissioner Tomblin stated that he had not watched the video, and would therefore
recuse himself from the vote.
Commissioner Emenhiser stated that the standard in the past was whether or not the
Commissioner had read the minutes from the meeting in question. He asked if that does
not apply anymore.
Assistant City Attorney Gerli answered that if the subject has to do with property
entitlements, then watching the meeting video and reading the staff report are the
standard.
Commissioner Emenhiser noted the previous standard was to review the minutes, and
asked if the Commissioners are now being asked to either read the staff report, view the
video, or do both.
Assistant City Attorney Gerli stated that if the current standard is to review the minutes,
then for now that is what should be required. Therefore, if a Commissioner has read the
meeting minutes, they may participate in the vote.
Commissioner Emenhiser stated he has reviewed the minutes, but not watched the video,
but felt he could participate in the vote.
Commissioner Tomblin stated he had also reviewed the minutes, but not watched the
video, but felt he could participate in the vote. He noted that he was at the meeting in
March when this project was first heard by the Commission.
Commissioner Leon stated he has read the minutes but not watched the video, but was
going to recuse himself from the vote.
Director Mihranian noted there was a quorum to vote on the motion and that there is a
motion on the floor, but no second to the motion.
Commissioner Emenhiser seconded the motion.
Commissioner Bradley stated he was the dissenting vote at the previous meeting, and
still strongly opposes the project based on bulk and mass. He felt this project is beyond
the bulk and mass found in the neighborhood, and relies on the corner lot which he stated
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was an outlier in terms of numbers. He stated that he would still encourage his fellow
Commissioners not to support the project.
Vice Chairman James asked Staff if the Commission had any authority to waive the
appeal fee, or if this was something the speaker should request from the City Council.
Director Mihranian answered that pursuant to the Council-adopted Fee Schedule and the
Municipal Code, there is an appeal fee to file an appeal to the City Council, however the
fee is refundable if the City Council overturns the Planning Commission's decision, and
is partially refundable if the Council makes certain modifications to the project.
The motion to accept Staff's recommendation to adopt P.C. Resolution 2017-16
thereby conditionally approving a Height Variation, Grading Permit and Site Plan
Review was approved, (4-1-1) with Commissioner Bradley dissenting and
Commissioner Leon abstaining.
Commissioner Emenhiser moved that the Planning Commission recommend to the
City Council that the filing fee for an appeal of this project be waived, seconded by
Commissioner Bradley.
Commissioner Nelson stated that he understood the reasoning behind the motion,
however it was setting a bad precedence for future cases. He stated that he could not
support the motion.
Commissioner Emenhiser recalled that the Planning Commission has made this type of
recommendation in the past on particularly controversial issues that may be appealed to
the City Council.
Director Mihranian explained that the Municipal Code is very clear as to what applications
the City Council can waive fees for and under what circumstances. He pointed out that
any change to a decision made by the Planning Commission that is before the City
Council on appeal would qualify for some type of refund if the Council modifies the
Commission's decision.
Commissioner James stated that he agreed with Commissioner Nelson that this was not
the correct process, also pointing out that the motion to approve the project passed. He
stated that he has sympathy for the neighbors, however there are rules the Planning
Commission must apply to each project and certain findings that must be made.
The motion failed, (2-4) with Commissioners Nelson, Tomblin, Leon, and Vice
Chairman James dissenting.
3. Appeal of View Preservation Notice of Decision (Case No. ZON2016-00015): RPV
Estates HOA
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Senior Planner Alvarez presented the staff report, giving a brief background of the project
and appeal. He reported that since the December 13, 2016 meeting, the Applicants and
the Appellant agreed to remove two Pine trees, Tree Nos. 1 and 6, where the removal of
Tree No. 1 restored the view of the city basin and the removal of Tree No. 6 partially
restored the view of the ocean and shoreline. In addition, two trees, Tree No. 2 and 3,
were trimmed in such a way where the applicants were satisfied, and Tree Nos. 4 and 5
were left as is as the Applicants and the Appellant had agreed that these trees provide
meaningful privacy. Therefore, the only remaining issues is whether Tree No. 7 should
be removed or trimmed and the Association Board had yet to meet to discuss the matter.
He explained that the Association has a board meeting scheduled for June 15th where
they plan to discuss Tree No. 7, therefore the Appellant is requesting that tonight's
Planning Commission agenda item be continued to the June 27th meeting to allow the
Association's Board the opportunity to discuss the issue. However, he explained the
Applicants do not wish to continue the public hearing, as they are not confident the
Association's Board will decide to either trim or remove Tree No. 7. Senior Planner
Alvarez explained that Staff recently visited the Applicants' property to assess the views
after the tree removal and trimming. He stated that Staff determined the tree removal
and trimming eliminated the significant view impairment that Tree Nos. 1 through 6
caused, and therefore Staff reached the conclusion that Finding No. 2 of the mandatory
permit findings cannot be made, as the trees no longer significantly impairs the view.
However, Staff determined that Tree No. 7 continues to impair the ocean and shoreline
view, and Staff recommends that Tree No. 7 be trimmed to a height of 16 feet, which is
the maximum height reduction allowed by the City Guidelines. Staff also recommends
that the tree be trimmed during the dormant season and maintained. He stated this
recommendation is in close agreement with the Appellant's initial request to the
Commission. He noted additional recommended tree maintenance conditions are
contained in the draft Resolution.
Commissioner Bradley referred to a photo of Tree No. 7 and pointed out a nearby palm
tree. He asked Staff if the palm tree caused more of a view impairment than Tree No. 7.
Senior Planner Alvarez explained that since the December public hearing, a neighboring
palm tree has grown up into the view. The Applicants have spoken to the palm tree
property owner to have the tree trimmed.
Commissioner Leon referred to the photo in the Staff Report, and felt that the trees still
cause a view impairment of the ocean. He stated his recollection of discussions regarding
the removal of the trees rather than trimming them down a few feet. He asked if the
Applicants support the recommendation that Tree No. 7 be trimmed rather than removed.
Senior Planner Alvarez answered that the maximum height the City can recommend
trimming is to 16 feet. He stated the Applicants support that recommendation, as they
feel they would regain their shoreline and ocean views.
June Kobayashi (Applicant) stated she and her husband have had numerous meetings
with the Association in regards to the trees, and several trees have been removed or
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trimmed. She stated Tree Nos. 2 and 3 have been shaped and she can see the view
through them, however they have grown quite a bit since trimmed and there is already
quite a bit of new growth on them. In regards to Tree No. 7, she stated she would prefer
to have the tree removed rather than trimmed. She stated that she and her husband
would like to see a resolution to this tree matter as soon as possible. She stated that she
and her husband have read the Staff Report and Staffs recommendations, and though it
is not ideal, she stated they could live with it.
Kathy Campbell, property owner at 12 Paseo De Pino, stated she wanted to ask the
Commission to continue the hearing until after the HOA Board meeting, since it is the
HOA Board who has legal authority over the common area. She stated it is the Board
who has the legal authority to make decisions regarding this property, and therefore she
stated that it would be most prudent to allow the Board the time to meet and make their
decision. However, in regards to Tree No. 7 she stated that she understood the
Kobayashis' said they would be willing to live with the tree being trimmed. She questioned
if the Staff or the Planning Commission has the legal authority to ignore the express
statutory language of the Ordinance, which she stated has been ignored in this case. She
stated the Ordinance requires that residents initiate the process and the Kobayashis are
not residents. She stated the view should be taken from the viewing area and the
documentation submitted be compliant. She stated the documentation is non-compliant.
She also stated that everyone is under the assumption that the Kobayashis had a view
from their home, however she stated the Kobayashis paid $174,000 less for their property
than the property two doors up with the exact same floor plan. She asked why this would
happen, noting she felt it was because there was not an ocean view from their property.
She asked the Commission to either continue the public hearing to allow the HOA to meet
or deny the application.
Commissioner Nelson asked Mrs. Campbell when the Association Board last met.
Mrs. Campbell answered that the Board met on March 9th, at which time the Board voted
unanimously to require the Kobayashis to fulfill their terms of the agreement.
Commissioner Nelson asked what the tree work recommendation is for the Association
Board meeting that will be held on June 15th.
Mrs. Campbell answered that Tree No. 7 is an agenda item for discussion by the Board.
She explained that there is a new Board in place, and not all members of the new Board
were members of the old Board. She added that their agendas don't include a
recommendation, as they allow the meetings to evolve.
Commissioner Emenhiser asked Mrs. Campbell if she was a member of the Board.
Mrs. Campbell answered that she is not a Board member.
Vice Chairman James asked Staff to address Mrs. Campbell's comments regarding the
City's failure to follow the language of the Ordinance.
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Director Mihranian explained that this issue was addressed at the December 13th
meeting, and Staff looked up the definition of a resident and past practices of the City,
and it was determined that the Kobayashis are tax paying property owners in Rancho
Palos Verdes and they are protected by the View Ordinance, whether they reside in the
City or not.
Vice Chairman James closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Nelson stated that part of the HOAs charter is to be a good neighbor, and
he did not feel this HOA was being a good HOA. He stated it appears the HOA has put
this issue on the back burner and there has been excuse-after-excuse as to why they
couldn't do anything. He stated it appeared the HOA was an obstructive force for a
reasonable homeowner's request. He stated this issue has been going on for quite some
time, and did not think the HOA will find a resolution on June 15th .
Commissioner Bradley commented that in reading the City Ordinance the only section
subject to interpretation is that of significant view impairment. He stated that the view
impairment in the latest picture submitted to the Commission is significant. He stated that
if the Kobayashis are willing to accept this degree of view impairment, he would be willing
to have an open mind about it.
Vice Chairman James stated that, if all possible, he would like to see this issue resolved
tonight. He noted that there are no representatives from the HOA Board at this meeting,
nor has the Board submitted any correspondence to Staff.
Vice Chairman James re-opened the public hearing to allow Commissioner Tomblin the
opportunity to ask Mrs. Campbell questions.
Commissioner Tomblin asked Mrs. Campbell what she would like to see as an end result
of the Board discussions.
Mrs. Campbell responded that the whole Board has not had a chance to view the post-
trimming. She stated that she would like the entire Board to view this photo and make a
decision. She stated that one of the mandatory required findings the City is required to
make is evidence of early neighborhood consultation and resolution. The Board went
through the correspondence and found a 2011 letter to the owners of this property
advising them there is a request the trees be trimmed and the HOA has a process and
procedure. She explained nothing was done by the Kobayashis and the trees were
allowed to grow another six years before the Kobayashis made their complaint.
Commissioner Tomblin asked if there was a reason there was not a Board member or
representative present to speak on behalf of the Board.
Mrs. Campbell answered that Board members are out of town and the only day they are
all available is June 15th.
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Mrs. Kobayashi explained that the Board required that she plant replacement foliage at
her expense, which she has done, before they would consider removing Tree No. 7.
Commissioner Leon asked Mrs. Kobayashi if she was really willing to live with the two-
foot reduction in the crown height of Tree No. 7 or if she really wanted the tree to be
removed.
Mrs. Kobayashi explained that the reason that tree was not cut in the beginning was
because a representative of the Association asked that Tree No. 6 be removed first and
then re-evaluate the impairment of Tree No. 7, as it was behind Tree No. 6. However,
after Tree No. 6 was removed, she did not think it made any difference to the view. She
stated she was also told by Bennett Landscaping that trimming any portion of Tree No. 7
would most likely kill the tree.
Commissioner James closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Nelson asked Staff who makes the final decision on these types of issues,
the HOA or the Planning Commission.
Senior Planner Alvarez answered the Planning Commission makes the final decision.
Commissioner Emenhiser stated the City of Rancho Palos Verdes has a View Ordinance.
He stated he was not interested in re-litigating what the Commission heard at the last
hearing. He stated he was ready to vote on this issue.
Commissioner Tomblin asked Staff if the Association could appeal the Planning
Commission's decision to the City Council if they chose to do so.
Director Mihranian answered that was correct.
Commissioner Nelson moved Staff's recommendation as modified to memorialize
the removal of Tree Nos. 1 and 6 and to remove Tree No. 7. Seconded by
Commissioner Bradley.
Commissioner Tomblin asked Staff if trimming Tree No. 7 down by two feet came about
through negotiations or was that a Staff recommendation.
Director Mihranian answered that the recommendation to Tree No. 7 by two feet is a Staff
recommendation.
The motion to approve Staff's recommendations as modified to memorialize the
removal of Tree No. 1 and 6, to remove Tree No. 7, and to maintain Tree Nos. 2
through 5 was approved and P. C. Resolution 2017-17 was adopted, (5-1) with
Commissioner Tomblin dissenting.
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NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. After-the-fact Grading Permit and Coastal Permit (Case No. ZON2017-00115):
5500 Palos Verdes Drive South
Deputy Director Kim presented the Staff Report, giving a brief description of the work
done on the property and the need for the applications. She stated that applications were
submitted by the Applicant, however Staff determined this project cannot be exempt from
CEQA because of the habitat removal, and therefore Staff is recommending the Planning
Commission continue the public hearing to a date uncertain to allow the Applicant to
submit the reports and information necessary for Staff to prepare a Mitigated Negative
Declaration pursuant to CEQA.
Director Mihranian noted there were no speakers for this item.
Vice Chairman James stated that he would prefer not to continue an item to a date
uncertain, but rather suggested that the item be continued to the September 26, 2017
meeting, and if necessary, Staff can request a further continuance at that time.
Vice Chairman James moved to continue the public hearing to the September 26,
2017 Planning Commission meeting, seconded by Commissioner Nelson.
Approved, (7-0).
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
5. Pre-Agenda for the meeting on June 27, 2017
Director Mihranian gave a brief explanation of what the orientation meeting will consist of
in regards to the Wireless Telecommunication Facilities Ordinance at the June 27th
meeting.
Commissioner Tomblin noted he had received several communications from residents
that cell sites may have already been installed.
Director Mihranian explained that the new Wireless Telecommunication Facilities
Ordinance requires that mock-ups be installed prior to the public hearing. He also noted
that there were approvals given by the Public Works Department prior to this new
Ordinance to allow new cables or conduits to be installed, and that none of the mock-ups
are functioning.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 p.m.
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