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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 14, 2017
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Tomblin at 7:08 p.m. at the Fred Hesse
Community Room, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Leon led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.
ATTENDANCE
Present: Commissioners Bradley, Emenhiser, James, Leon, Nelson, Vice Chairman
Cruikshank, and Chairman Tomblin.
Absent: None
Also present were Community Development Director Mihranian, Associate Planner Silva,
Assistant Planner Anaya, and Assistant City Attorney Burrows.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was unanimously approved as presented.
COMMUNICATIONS
Director Mihranian reported to the Commission that the City and the Vista Verde
Condominium Association continue to discuss negotiating a Settlement Agreement. He
also reported that the City Council, as part of their consideration to adopt a citywide noise
ordinance, will consider noise impacts associated with barking dogs at their March 21st
meeting.
Director Mihranian noted late correspondence had been distributed for Agenda Item No.
3.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank reported that he visited the Ride-To-Fly property and attended
the recent IMAC meeting.
Commissioner Emenhiser stated he attended the CHOA Expo on February 15th
Commissioner Nelson reported he attended the City hosted meeting on Homeowner's
Associations surveillance cameras.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (regarding non-agenda item):
Noel Weiss thanked the Commission for their past diligence and thoroughness in regards
to Green Hills matters. He felt the City Council acted unlawfully when they took away
from the Commission the compliance review. He gave a brief overview of where the
discussions currently stand between the City and the Vista Verde HOA in regards to a
Settlement Agreement.
Sharon Loveys stated she filed her appeal of Inspiration Slope over five months ago, and
she felt it was being stalled by the Green Hills staff. She hoped that Green Hills provides
the requested information for the March 28th meeting and hoped the Planning
Commission will hold Green Hills accountable.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Approval of the February 28, 2017 Minutes
Vice Chairman Cruikshank moved to approve the minutes as presented, seconded
by Commissioner Nelson. Approved, (6-0) with Commissioner James abstaining
since he was absent from that meeting.
NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Conditional Large Domestic Animal Permit No. 2 — Time extension and revision
(Case No. ZON2016-00465): Ride-To-Fly / 50 Narcissa Drive
Assistant Planner Anaya presented the staff report, giving a brief background of the site
and the Ride-To-Fly program. He explained the applicant's request to extend the Permit
for an additional five years and to revise the Permit to extend the existing operating hours
in the morning from 10am to 9am. He stated that that to ensure the requested
modification does not adversely affect the surrounding neighborhood, staff added
condition No. 14 to require a six-month review to determine if any conditions of approval
need to be added, deleted, or modified. He stated that Staff is recommending that the
Planning Commission adopt the Resolution, thereby recommending that the City Council
approve the requested revision to the Conditional Large Domestic Animal Permit, thereby
extending the permit an additional five years and extending the operating hours during
the week from 10am to 9am.
Commissioner James questioned if a six-month review is necessary, as there have never
been any problems or complaints regarding the Ride-To-Fly program.
Director Mihranian answered that the suggested condition of approval is at the
Commission's discretion. He added that the condition was added because in the past
there have been some neighborhood concerns, and because the request includes
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expanding the operating hours in the morning, Staff wanted to ensure the modified hours
did not have an adverse effect on the neighbors.
Commissioner Bradley asked Staff if the Commission could only recommend an
extension of five years, of if the extension of the permit could be for a different amount of
time.
Director Mihranian answered that the Commission can recommend any amount of time
for the permit extension. He felt a five-year extension was good because it gives Staff
the opportunity to address any issues and it gives the applicant an opportunity to make
any changes to their application.
Commissioner Bradley understood, but noted that if there are problems at the site they
can be addressed by Staff at the time, and the applicant can apply for changes to the
Permit at any time.
Commissioner Leon disclosed that he did a poll of the Board of Directors of the
Portuguese Bend Community Association with regards to the Ride-To-Fly request. He
stated that they were all very supportive of the program and applauded the good work
they are doing. He also stated he felt these reviews are somewhat burdensome to Ride-
To-Fly, and asked Staff if these reviews could be triggered by complaints as opposed to
being triggered by years.
Director Mihranian agreed that was an option, but cautioned going down that path of
complaint-based reviews. He explained that if the condition is written in that way it could
then be possible for one person who has concerns with the operation to make several
complaints in a certain period of time. He explained that currently anyone can lodge a
complaint with the City regarding the operation, at which time Staff would investigate and
see how the complaint relates to the Conditions of Approval, and try to work with the
applicant to resolve the issue. He felt these compliance reviews, no matter how often
they are held, affords the opportunity to relook at the conditions and the site and to make
sure the program is operating properly.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank asked Staff what some of the previous complaints have been
in the past.
Director Mihranian recalled complaints and problems with parking, traffic, hours of
operations, and some noise impacts.
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
Gail Grove (Applicant) stated that, in regards to the parking, they are working on alternate
parking areas. They have secured one area and are currently working on another. She
noted that the third Saturday of the month is really the only time there is a problem with
parking, explaining that is the day orientation takes place at the site. She stated she was
available to answer any questions.
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Commissioner Leon asked Ms. Grove what she would like to have on site in terms of
parking.
Ms. Grove responded that she has been working with Staff regarding parking on site.
However, Staff felt that some trees would have to be removed in order to accommodate
the parking, and she did not feel the HOA would be happy with that.
Director Mihranian added that Staff has been working closely with Ms. Grove to try to
accommodate their request for additional parking, however Staff determined the
additional parking that Ride-To-Fly would like to have wouldn't fit in the current
configuration and modifications would have to be made to the site to meet the
Development Code standards for parking.
Commissioner Leon noted that the extra parking was only needed for short, specific
times, and questioned if pasture areas could be used for this limited parking. He noted
Las Candalistas does exactly that when they hold their annual event.
Director Mihranian agreed, but noted Las Canadalistas applies for a Special Use Permit
where there are conditions for the particular special event. This is more of an on-going
operation and Staff is working with the applicant to come up with an alternative plan where
they don't have to apply for a parking lot permit from the Planning Division. He explained
that Staff and the applicant are trying to identify other properties in the area that could be
used for this parking and they can enter into an agreement with that property owner and
the City would not have to get involved.
Commissioner Emenhiser congratulated Ms. Grove and her staff on the work they do at
Ride-To-Fly.
Chairman Tomblin closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Leon moved staff's recommendation, seconded by Commissioner
Emenhiser.
Commissioner Emenhiser moved to amend the motion to recommend a seven year
extension rather than a five year extension. The amendment was accepted by
Commissioner Leon.
Commissioner James moved to amend the motion to delete Condition No. 14
regarding the six-month review. The amendment was accepted by Commissioner
Leon and Commissioner Emenhiser.
The motion to approve Staff's recommendation as modified to delete condition No.
14 and to extend the permit for an additional seven years rather than five years,
was approved (7-0), thereby adopting P.C. Resolution 2017-10.
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NEW BUSINESS
3. General Plan Annual Status Report
Associate Planner Silva presented the staff report, explaining this is the annual status
report on the City's progress and actions on the implementation of the General Plan and
this report is separate from the City's ongoing efforts to complete an update to the General
Plan. He explained that each year the State requires the City to provide an annual report
on the City's status and the progress on its implementation of the General Plan. The State
requires the report be reviewed by the Planning Commission as well as the City Council
before being forwarded to the State for filing. He stated that Staff believes the goals and
policies of the City's General Plan continue to be implemented through the recent
developments and actions taken by the City, while ensuring the needs and best interests
of the community members continue to be met. Therefore, Staff was recommending the
Planning Commission direct Staff, via Minute Order, to forward the City's 2016 General
Plan Annual Status Report to the City Council for review at its Match 21, 2017 meeting.
Commissioner Emenhiser asked Staff what would happen if the Commission votes
against this plan.
Director Mihranian replied that Staff would forward that recommendation to the City
Council for their consideration. He stated Staff would recommend to the City Council that
they authorize Staff to submit the annual status report to the State. He explained that this
report is a status report mandated by the State on the implementation of the City's current
General Plan. He stated there is currently a General Plan in place and those goals and
policies are currently being implemented by the City. This report is what the City is doing
during in 2016 to implement its current General Plan and is not related to the update to
the General Plan.
Commissioner Emenhiser understood, and understood his vote would be largely
symbolic, but felt the two were related.
Commissioner James asked if the City Council has ever not approved one of these
General Plan Updates or if the State has ever wanted something different from the City.
Director Mihranian answered that the City Council has made changes and clarifications
to the document, however they have never given the directive not to file the annual report.
Commissioner Leon asked Staff if the State has ever complained that our General Plan
has not been updated.
Director Mihranian answered that, to his knowledge, they have not.
Commissioner Nelson read from a document from the Governor's office of Planning and
Research dated 2015, notifying the City their General Plan had not been updated. He
also read from a 2016 City Council document stating that in 2016 the City Attorney
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completed their preliminary review and additional work was needed to make the
document legally defensible. He also noted the City Attorney's comments that the
General Plan should be ready in six months, which was February 2016. He asked
Assistant City Attorney Burrows if her office was currently looking at the draft General
Plan or if it was still with the Environmental Consultants.
Assistant City Attorney Burrows answered that the Environmental Consultants are
preparing studies for the General Plan.
Commissioner Nelson stated he distributed to the Commissioners a document in which
he expresses his concerns about the length of the General Plan, what is required to be in
the General Plan. He stated he is going to forward this correspondence to all of the City
Council members, as they have the right to know what the State is requiring of the City
and they need to be reminded where the City was in 2015 from the Governor's office, and
that they have the right to know that in February 2017 this was to be complete.
Commissioner James agreed with Commissioners Emenhiser and Nelson, however what
is before the Commission has nothing to do with that. This is a separate requirement by
the State. The only issue before the Commission is the implementation and whether this
report adequately does that.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank asked Staff if the State mandates any type of format for this
report.
Assistant City Attorney Burrows responded that there is no State mandated format for a
General Plan Annual Review, and the only Guideline she is aware of is that a letter is
insufficient.
Chairman Tomblin noted there have been discussions and actions taken regarding
motorcycle noise, and did not see this discussion in the document.
Director Mihranian agreed that in 2016 the City took the initiative to address motorcycle
noise along the Palos Verdes Drive East Switchbacks and if this is something the
Commission would like to include it can be added as a bullet point in the Noise Element
section of the document.
Commissioner Leon understood the State's requirement for the document, but felt the
City should be minimally compliant with the document and not spend too much time and
effort in its preparation.
Commissioner Bradley moved to approve the report with the one addition
regarding motorcycle noise in the Noise Element, and to forward the annual status
report to the City Council, seconded by Commissioner Leon. Approved (6-1) with
Commissioner Emenhiser dissenting.
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Commissioner Emenhiser commented that he was voting against this motion in the hope
that the lone nay vote may cause the City Manager, the City Council, and Staff to get
serious about completing the update to the General Plan before this item comes before
the Planning Commission again next year.
4. Housing Element Annual Update
Associate Planner Silva presented the staff report, explaining this is a separate annual
report regarding the status of the Housing Element and the progress on its
implementation during the 2016 calendar year. He gave a brief background on the
Housing Element and what a Housing Element should do. He explained how the City has
strived to meet the requirements of the Housing Element over the past year, as detailed
in the staff report. He stated that Staff feels the goals and policies of the City's Housing
Element have been implemented by the actions taken by the City and Staff and was
recommending the Planning Commission direct Staff, via Minute Order, to forward the
City's Housing Element Annual Report to the City Council for review.
Commissioner Leon noted that in the staff report it states the City is providing these low
income houses. He asked if that is an accurate way to portray this, questioning if the City
is actually subsidizing these homes. He asked Staff to clarify.
Director Mihranian stated that in certain circumstances the City has provided these
affordable housing units by buying some units and putting them for sale as affordable
units. Additionally, as part of certain development projects, the developer had to set aside
a certain number of units for affordable housing.
Commissioner Nelson referred to Table C in the staff report and the statement that in
2017 the City will amend the Zoning Ordinance to permit employee housing for at least
six or fewer employees in the Single Family Residential District, by right. He asked Staff
to explain why the City would provide housing to City employees.
Director Mihranian clarified that it is not City employees, but rather it is employee housing
that would accommodate employees of any organization or business located in the City.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank commented that at the recent League of Planning
Commissioners Academy there was quite a bit of discussion regarding these different
laws that will be coming into effect. He felt there were many things that Planning
Commissioners could reference as an update on what is happening in Sacramento. He
felt there were many things coming up that Planning Commissioners should be ready for
and to be proactive on to help Staff and the City Council do their jobs. He felt it would be
helpful to have a Staff presentation on what Staff knows about this and suggested
someone from the League of Cities might come and give the Commission a presentation.
Commissioner Nelson moved to accept Staff's recommendation and forward the
recommendation, via Minute Order, to the City Council, seconded by
Commissioner Bradley. Approved, (7-0).
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ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
5. Pre-Agenda for the meeting on March 28, 2017
Director Mihranian gave a brief update on item No. 2, the View Preservation item on the
Pre-Agenda, noting that Staff was recently informed that both parties are going to request
a continuance of this item in order to come to a final resolution on one remaining tree.
Director Mihranian noted the applicant, Green Hills, for agenda item No. 3 may request a
continuance, however given what the Commission discussed earlier in the evening, that
message will be conveyed to the applicant. He noted that when there is a request for a
continuance, the Commission does not necessarily have to continue the item and can
take public testimony and take action on the item.
Commissioner Nelson stated he is very frustrated with the View Preservation item, and
was ready to tell the applicant what tree should be removed.
As discussed earlier, Vice Chairman Cruikshank stated there are a number of State
housing mandates coming up that will affect the City from a Planning Commission's
perspective. He suggested having a representative from the League of Cities give the
Commission a presentation.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank suggested a status report on the Western Avenue Vision Plan.
Director Mihranian pointed out how to access this information on the City's website. He
noted that to his knowledge there has been no activity on the Vision Plan since 2015.
Vice Chairman Cruikshank stated it would be nice for the Planning Commission to
understand more about the City's infrastructure priority list before it comes before the
Planning Commission so that the Commission can do a bit more research and
investigation prior to this item coming to the Commission.
Commissioner Emenhiser was very supportive of the Vice Chairman's suggestions.
In regards to the Western Avenue Vision Plan, Commissioner Leon noted that most of
these come to the Commission as individual projects. He asked, because the Strategic
Plan has been approved by the City Council, is the Commission going to be required to
make findings that are consistent with the Strategic Plan.
Director Mihranian answered that when a request comes before the Commission to
amend the Zoning Code or the Zoning Map, the Commission does need to make certain
findings. Just because a project may be stated a Strategic Plan that does not necessarily
mean it warrants a Land Use Map, Zoning Map, or General Plan amendment.
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Assistant City Attorney Burrows suggested that if there are questions about the Western
Avenue Specific Plan, it can be agendized to a future meeting.
Commissioner Leon asked Staff if a closed session might be needed to update the
Commission on what is happening with the Green Hills item.
Assistant City Attorney Burrows answered that she will discuss this with the City Attorney,
as he will want to be at the closed session meeting.
Director Mihranian clarified that the Commission was requesting an update on State
housing mandates, which he will agendize for an upcoming meeting. He asked if the
Commission wants to have an update on the Western Avenue Strategic Plan agendized
for a future meeting.
The Commission agreed they would like to have both items scheduled at a future meeting.
In regards to the infrastructure, Director Mihranian noted that when this item comes before
the Commission it is tied into the Capital Improvement Plan. The Commission's role in
the Public Works Infrastructure Improvement is to find that the projects that are being
considered by Public Works are consistent with the General Plan. He stated he will talk
to the Public Works Director to find out what can be done to address the Commission's
request and report back to the Commission.
Commissioner Emenhiser noted that at past meetings when this item was before the
Commission there was no Public Works Staff member in attendance to answer any of the
Commission's questions. He felt that having a Public Works Staff member in attendance
at that meeting would be very helpful.
Commissioner Bradley asked that there be a brief General Plan status update agendized
for every Commission meeting just to keep the Commission informed on what is
happening.
Director Mihranian stated that can be done under Staff's oral presentations.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:11 p.m.
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