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VRC MINS 20021205 • Approved by: VIEW RESTORATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING DECEMBER 5, 2002 Chairman Alberio called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M. at Fred Hesse Community Park, 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard. The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Commissioner Drages. Present: Chairman Alberio, Commissioners Dyda, Drages, Franklin and Weber. Absent: Commissioner Iseda was absent. Commissioner De Moraes and Vice Chairman Slayden were absent/excused. Also present were Project Coordinator John Alvarez and Recording Secretary !vette Munoz. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Chairman Alberio called for a motion to approve the agenda. Commissioner Franklin moved to approve the agenda as presented, seconded by Commissioner Dyda. Motion carried (5-0). COMMUNICATIONS Staff: Project Coordinator Alvarez stated that the City Council would be meeting on 12/17/02 to hear the revised guidelines and officially disband the VRC. Commission: Chairman Alberio announced that Doug Stern was the new Mayor of RPV and Barbara Ferrero was the new Mayor Pro Tem. CONSENT CALENDAR: 1. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 3, 2002 Commissioner Franklin provided a handout with corrections and deletions made to pages 11,12 and 13 of the October 3, 2002, minutes. The following corrections to the 10/3/02 minutes show additions as shaded and deletions struck out. They are as follows: Y" • a.) Page 11 of 14: Atillottonitgolopopooplaploftwogolgtolttig . .:....::... .::.......... .................................................... .................................................... .................................................... Commissioner Franklinproposed an illustrated figure 0. ...... ... ....................... ...... taktilefifieht tot li page1119 in theguidelines. hkgto „„„ti:,,100,10000,:,,tyl.,00:11.10:,:,,01..........................................H...........................i.....s........................ uidelin revision memo includes this figure illustrating '` A trees less than 16 feet in height and/or below the ridgeline of the primary structure.,T40111§00 OhOil#1100001.1.1.1.1f1.01109001,tholpootillotitott!!Ipokitialthe,. 0000:060i#iithOtolroll!tont!,17401.1161#0100:olgootolg‘a tvokpilseir.;:matibasigrovoifrobovotheiscenela,00:::::. •s: :::.: ave Commissioner :„:„ thelf0.1001!"OF r. Franklin explained that the ��:�� A tree an ca:::: :::::::.::::::::::::::: :not subject to the Ordinance :.: .. ............................................ o not exceed 16 feet and/or the because :�: ��:.:::::�:::��: :.. ridgeline of therima structure ::::::.: :. : :::.::.:::: :: .. l.lo :::::.::.:::t: p rY . : .................................. ........................................................................................................ because the . h ab ve he::::rid:.. ne:d ::.. t:.:::block:::::a ioiew defined ntworconancei The of the is to pointfigureclarify acceptable foliage in reference to the 16-foot height minimum and the ridgeline of the primary structure or above the view as defined in the Ordinance. fes::::::: ::: : ............................ . ...... b.) Page 2 of 14: FOLIAGE OWNER RIGHTS WITH REGARD TO TRIMMING FOLIAGE BELOW 16 FEET OR THE RIDGELINE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. Commissioner Franklin proposed that the Commission have at its' discretion the authority to order trimming below 16 feet or ridgeline th o iteoitdetitolbalafidtiattteeiandiOtdViddian::.::.::.:................................ aestetipallyipleasinglappeagangel This refers to Page1 D ( ) in his guideline revision memo, which contains the text that would allow trimming portions of a tree that are below 16 feet or the ridgeline for aesthetic reasons. This additional trimming below the 16-foot level would balance trimming done above ........................ the 16-foot level. A:.. �.:.:n :�....d......................: .:� thg ::t Commissioner oner Franklin alsoadded + text that givesth the foliage owner the right t I w I: O 7 <-110 N COMMISSION MUTE S S� )) 2.002 Zvi!c„n�.re �b aw/f ,. .....::...:: 000116#trimming below the 16-foot level. Senior Coordinator Nelson gave an example of a case in the Portuguese Bend area involving the lacing of a pine tree. Lacing was recommended and the foliage owner only wanted the portion above 16 feet laced instead of having the entire tree laced for aesthetic reasons. In this case, the discretion to lace below 16 feet was left to the foliage owner. Senior Coordinator Nelson went on to say that this is implied in the guidelines and really has not been a problem. ..:...................................................................... ......................................................................... ......................................................................... Commissioner Franklin moved to accept thit M::::: :::::::::: ......................................................... ......................................................... ......................................................... nCommissionerW r. ��`�� `�`i��"�� as letter D, seconded byWeber. Motion carried (5-1) with Commissioner Dyda dissenting. c.) Insert on page 13: ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... `IE ' FRME DO `ENT ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................... Thtiotiosoologisiot potootrparoologlipm!ossoneqpit0,1,11pagplIROMMI..2.:::whit. 1!1104101041,011yierlframeoppfxplissioneFlipmpl noigssigot h `` :e :.correct:but.. he `:df ht:` : : :::.::::::.::.::::.::r v: :.: .: ........................... ......................................................................................................................................................................................................... bottom of he fig•. :.::::::..:..::s t:::: :.: :::::: ::::: ._:: ::.... appropriate....... .....pdelr Th rd0...::::: resent •:...:. te,ORIoert0.0f1otObqlOtvfgore!0000fkOpi*senwOoetsttNdtNd. :<:::>:::<:::::»> j! M*104001.110.1t00100fttiti 0101511000 QP\1346 )le also requested that the last 2 paragraphs before New Business not be indented. COMMISSIONER WEBER MOVED TO ACCEPT THE OCTOBER 3, 2002, MINUTES AS AMENDED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN. MOTION CARRIED (5-0). 2. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 7, 2002 Commissioner Franklin suggested rewording the first sentence of the fourth paragraph on page 6. The sentence read: "Commissioner Weber stated that the dotted line was there because above that point the view is not preserved. " He felt it would read better if changed to: "Commissioner Weber stated that the dotted line was there because above that point there is no view to be preserved." t�� ¢�..ki c S �{+,,,!£..V��..y�...lt;x.+.4,3 i ..£/:.�� .��♦3{S�`< {;�'+°��4� l..y k ? i F,.xt { 2 4.E.:..5 3 3*,,:3 E`.f"'c.` #aa„ N .3'�,,�`Ssif€€;zrt£a/•,,.1 .,,,,s 1110 • COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN MOVED TO ACCEPT THE NOVEMBER 7, 2002, MINUTES AS AMENDED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WEBER. MOTION CARRIED (3-0) WITH COMMISSIONERS DYDA ABSTAINING BECAUSE HE WAS RECUSED AT THIS MEETING AND COMMISSIONER DRAGES ABSTAINING BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE 11/7/02 MEETING. 3. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 21, 2002 Commissioner Franklin stated that there was an error on page 10 of 13 on the November 21, 2002, minutes. The last sentence of paragraph 3 reads, "His second item suggested that the wording of the paragraph from Section D (2), page 8 be changed to read:" He wanted this changed to read, "His second item suggested that the wording of the paragraph from Section D (2), page 9 and 4A of page 26 be changed to read:" COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN MOVED TO ACCEPT THE NOVEMBER 21, 2002, MINUTES AS AMENDED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WEBER. MOTION CARRIED (5-0). CONTINUED BUSINESS: NONE. PUBLIC HEARINGS: NONE. NEW BUSINESS: Commissioner Weber suggested that although the VRC is being disbanded that a View Committee be formed to advise the Planning Commission on view issues they may encounter. Commissioner Dyda stated the difference between a commission and a committee. A commission has decision-making power. A committee can only make recommendations. He also stated that Commissioner Franklin and he would be sitting in as view advisors for the Planning Commission in case they had any questions. Therefore, there was no need for a view committee since they would have no decision making power. ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS: NONE. t •:r� ..._y �-�y F�:%'',,.�'f�,.. p.5 �.\�"`,.�X t,�# ti t�^. � t, y£}y, r y r r n• •f�• ,,� 3 t# 2 r # .t rr ? ..<<�Tj'< 'r�.�� 'tj ; s��t 'x t}>•v ?•., t $ t i,,.. . ... .. P • COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (regarding non-agenda items): NONE. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was duly adjourned at 7:30 P.M. V OHADONCOMMiSSIONMINUTES Decem b r S of