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MARCH 21, 1996
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
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REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 7, 1996
The meeting was called to order by Chair R. Green at 7:05 pm at Hesse Park
Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. The Pledge of Allegiance followed
led by Commissioner Gee.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Black, Boudreau, Gee, Goern, A. Green,
Karmelich, Long, Marshall, Vice Chair Sweetnam and Chair R. Green
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Planning Administrator Petru, Senior Planner Rojas and Recording
Secretary Kennerson
COMMUNICATION
Commissioner Goern distributed a recent newspaper article from the "Montecito
Journal" regarding the need to trim large trees regularly for safety purposes. She also
distributed a flyer from the Los Angeles County Fire Department regarding the proper
distances for brush clearance around single family residences.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
1. MINUTES OF MAY 18, 1995
In reviewing the draft Minutes of May 18, 1995, on page 3, Vice Chair Sweetnam stated
that the Commission had decided to allow the Chair to sign the position letter to be sent
to the City Council regarding Covenants. He asked that a statement to that effect be
included in the Minutes.
Commissioner Gee asked if the position letter had ever been sent to the Council.
Ms. Petru answered that, to her knowledge, it had not been sent.
Chair R. Green asked Ms. Petru, on page 5, if the City Council was going to review the
Request for Proposals (RFP) to seek a consultant to assist the City in processing View
Restoration Permits.
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Ms. Petru said that at the meeting on February 6, 1996, the City Council authorized
Staff to proceed with the RFP. She went on to say that the City Attorney had provided
her with comments on the document that day and that, once revised, Staff would be
sending the RFP to various firms for responses.
Commissioner Goern asked, if the City Council did not intend to approve the
Development Code until June 1996, did that mean the Commission could not hear View
Restoration cases until that time.
Ms. Petru answered that the direction Staff had received was not to accept or process
new applications until after the Development Code and the revised View Restoration
Permit Guidelines had been approved by the City Council .
Chair R. Green stated that he thought that the Development Code would not be
adopted until after June, and more likely in July, based on the Council's current
schedule. He also confirmed that the direction to the Commission was to wait until the
Code was adopted before processing any new permit applications.
2. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 1, 1996
Vice Chair Sweetnam asked for clarification in the last paragraph of page 3, where
there seemed to be a verb missing.
Ms. Petru stated that the sentence would be modified to indicated that the Commission
and Staff had made an effort to inform the public about the importance of documenting
their existing views by submitting photographs to the City.
3. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 15, 1996
On page 2, Vice Chair Sweetnam noted some minor errors. In the second paragraph,
in the next to the last line, the word "on" should be changed to "one." Also, in the next
paragraph the word "delude," should be "dilute."
On page 3, Vice Chair Sweetnam noted that in the second paragraph from the bottom
the correct phrase should be "to it's."
On page 4, Vice Chair Sweetnam stated that he was not sure if the first sentence in the
second paragraph was accurate. Mr. Sweetnam recalled that he had asked if the 1993
Height Variation Guidelines were still current, but could not remember what the
reference to "16 feet" was related to.
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After some discussion with Vice Chair Sweetnam, Planning Administrator Petru
concluded that Staff would change the sentence to read "inquired if the Height Variation
Guidelines from August 1993 were still a current version being used by the City and
asked if Staff would consider views from the lot as protected viewing areas".
Vice Chair Sweetnam moved to approve all three sets of minutes, as amended,
seconded by Commissioner Boudreau. The motion passed without objection,
(10-0).
CONTINUED BUSINESS
4. PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS, SECTION 17.02.040
Planning Administrator Petru stated that Staff had not prepared a Staff Report on this
item, but indicated that on February 20, 1996, the City Council had discussed this
Section of the proposed Development Code Revisions. Staff had placed this item on
the agenda since, at the last meeting, the Commission had expressed a desire to
discuss the outcome of the Council's review of this Code Section.
Vice Chair Sweetnam asked what was Staffs understanding of the Council's direction
at the February 20, 1996 meeting.
Senior Planner Rojas responded that it was Staffs understanding that the City Council
wanted the Planning Commission's recommendations to be incorporated into Section
17.02.040. He went on to say that the "final" draft version of Section 17.02.040 would
be brought back to the City Council at the conclusion of their initial review of the
Development Code revisions, which was anticipated to be June 1996.
For the benefit of the Commissioners who did not attend the Council meeting or watch it
on television, Vice Chair Sweetnam noted that the City Council discussed the
modifications to this Section of the Code and asked Staff some questions regarding the
differences between the View Restoration Commission's recommendations and the
Planning Commission's recommendations. Mr. Sweetnam reported that, at that point in
the hearing, the City Council asked Chair R. Green and Vice Chair Sweetnam to
explain their opinion regarding the definition of"viewing area." Vice Chair Sweetnam
felt that the View Restoration Commission's opinion on this point was not well received
by some of the Councilmembers. Some Councilmembers expressed the opinion that a
view could only be taken from anywhere on a property, if the property was a vacant lot.
Once a structures was built on a lot, then views could only be taken from inside the
structure.
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Chair R. Green noted, however, that the City Council had modified its previous position
on this point, since the Council had agreed to allow the viewing area to include several
rooms or zones within the structure, rather than a single fixed point. He went on to say
that, regarding the issue of"vacant lot" versus just the term "lot," Councilman
McTaggart had clearly articulated his opinion that once a structure was built on the lot,
then the location and orientation of the rooms in that structure were the guidepost to
use to define the "viewing area."
Commissioner Boudreau asked Staff if the City Council could amend Section
17.02.040, without placing it on the ballot.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that this Section of the Development Code was
adopted by voter referendum (Proposition M). However, the City Council has the ability
to amend it, as long as the Council and the City Attorney find that the amendments act
to clarify or further the original intent of the Ordinance.
Commissioner Boudreau expressed her opinion that the changes the City Council
wanted to make to Section 17.02.040 did not further the original intent of the Ordinance,
and, in fact, weakened the Code considerably.
After a discussion among the Commissioners regarding the City Council's position on
the proposed amendments to Section 17.02.040, Commissioner Long suggested that
the Commission adopt a Resolution to the City Council containing their position on the
Council's proposed changed to the Ordinance.
Vice Chair Sweetnam suggested a subcommittee of more than three Commissioners
should be appointed to hold public hearings and draft the Resolution.
Senior Planner Joel Rojas clarified that this Section would not be considered again by
the Council until at least June 1996. Therefore, the Commission had ample time to
prepare a Resolution.
Commissioner Gee made a motion to continue the item to the March 21, 1996
meeting, and to direct Staff to provide the Commission with a "clean copy"
version of the Planning Commission's recommendations on Section 17.02.040.
Commissioner Sweetnam seconded the motion, which was passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
5. VIEW RESTORATION COMMISSION LETTER TO CITY
COUNCIL REGARDING COVENANTS TO PROTECT
VIEWS
Chair R. Green explained the history of the position letter, the three points raised in the
letter and the most important point, which was the lack of due process afforded the
foliage owner by the use of the Covenant. He then asked Staff to explain, for the
benefit of the newer members on the Commission, how the use of the "Covenants to
Protect Views" came about.
Planning Administrator Petru explained that there were two primary reasons why the
City Council favored the use of this Covenant: 1) the Covenant avoided the need for a
property owner to submit photographs to the City documenting their view; and, 2) the
Covenant was recorded onto the deed of the property, which provided legal notice of
the Code requirements to the property owner and made the Covenant a very useful
enforcement tool for Staff. However, Ms. Petru noted that the Commission had
objected to the use of Covenants in the past, since it denied the foliage owner the
ability to have their case heard by the View Restoration Commission.
Commissioner Long stated that he agreed with Staff that the Covenant was an effective
enforcement tool. However, he also understood how the Commission would object to
the lack of due process afforded to the owner of foliage existing prior to 1989.
Commissioner Long made a motion not to send the View Restoration
Commission's position letter on Covenants to Protect Views to the City Council,
seconded by Commissioner A. Green. The motion passed (7-3), with
Commissioner Goern, Vice Chair Sweetnam and Chair R. Green dissenting.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Commission
Commissioner Boudreau noted that she would be absent from the meeting on March
21, 1996.
Chair R. Green requested that its Rules and Procedure be placed on the March 21,
1996 meeting agenda.
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ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Sweetnam moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Commissioner
Boudreau. The meeting was duly adjourned at 8:13 p.m. to March 21, 1996.
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