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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
VIEW RESTORATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 21, 1996
The meeting was called to order by Chair R. Green at 7:03 P.M. at Hesse Park
Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. The Pledge of Allegiance followed,
led by Commissioner Long
PRESENT: Commissioners Black, Gee, Goern, Karmelich, Long,
Marshall, Vice Chair Sweetnam, Chair R. Green
ABSENT: Commissioners Boudreau (excused) and A. Green
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement Bernard,
Planning Administrator Petru, Senior Planner Rojas, and Recording Secretary Peterson
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice Chair Sweetnam moved to accept the agenda as presented, seconded by
Commissioner Black. Approved, (8-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Commissioner Marshall distributed a recent newspaper article from the "Los Angeles
Times" regarding neighbors trying to resolve tree and view disputes without going to
court. Commissioner Black distributed copies of the Proposition M original ballot
measure.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of March 7, 1996
In reviewing the draft Minutes of March 7, 1996, on Page 1, Commissioner Gee noted
that he was the Commissioner who had asked about the position letter, rather than
Commissioner Long.
Commissioner Goern stated that on Page 2, paragraph 2, she had asked the question,
rather than Commissioner Boudreau.
Vice Chair Sweetnam suggested that on Page 3, last paragraph, the word
"Commissioner" be changed to "Commissioners".
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Vice Chair Sweetnam also felt that on Page 4, the sixth paragraph should be slightly
reworded to state the Subcommittee should consist of more than three Commissioners
so that the meetings would be public hearings.
Commissioner Long noted on Page 5, paragraph 3, the sentence should be corrected
to read: "the owner of foliage existing prior to 1989."
Commissioner Long pointed out that on Page 5, paragraph 4, the name of one of the
dissenting votes was missing. Chair R. Green indicated that he had dissented on the
vote.
Commissioner Gee moved to approve the minutes, as amended, seconded by
Vice Chair Sweetnam. The motion passed without objection, (8-0).
CONTINUED BUSINESS
2. PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS, SECTION 17.02.040
Planning Administrator Petru presented the Staff Report on this item to the
Commission.
Chair R. Green asked Staff if a letter of explanation or a Resolution would be the more
appropriate way to communicate to City Council their feelings on the Development
Code Revisions. Chair R. Green felt that a Resolution may be redundant, since the
Commission had already forwarded its recommendations on the Development Code in
the form of a Resolution.
Director Bernard stated that, after discussion with the City Manager, he felt the more
appropriate avenue for the Commission to take would be a letter, as opposed to a
Resolution.
Vice Chair Sweetnam stated that the original Proposition M had no provision for appeal
of the View Restoration Commission decisions. A change made by City Council would
allow View Restoration Commission decisions to be appealable to the City Council, but
only on a procedural basis. The final decisions would still come from the View
Restoration Commission.
Commissioner Marshall noted that the Development Code language stated that any
interested party had a right to appeal and the appeal didn't have to be based on a
procedural error.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that the Code language Commissioner
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Marshall was referring to related to Height Variation Permits, and not View Restoration
Permits, which had its own appeal procedure.
Director Bernard pointed out that the appeal procedure that applies to View Restoration
Permits is located at the bottom of page 40 of the draft Development Code, Section
17.02.040, sub-section ii.
Chair R. Green asked Staff for confirmation that prior to final adoption of the proposed
Development Code, the City Attorney would check the language to make sure it was
consistent with Proposition M.
Director Bernard indicated that the City Attorney had already reviewed the Planning
Commission's recommendations and has not indicated that they are contrary to the
intent of Proposition M. Therefore, it would be appropriate for the View Restoration
Commission to express their concern in a letter that a written opinion should be
rendered from the City Attorney prior to City Council adoption of the Development
Code.
A discussion followed between the Commission and Staff, where the Staff explained
the past practices and the Planning Commission's recommendations regarding
protected views and the establishment of viewing area. Staff also explained that only
views from a residence that is under 16 feet in height is protected, while views from
second stories are generally not protected.
Chair R. Green agreed with Vice Chair Sweetnam's earlier suggestion that a Sub-
committee be formed to draft a position letter to the City Council.
Vice Chair Sweetnam reiterated his feelings that the Sub-committee should have more
than three members, so that it be an open meeting where the public can attend and
provide input. He suggested that the next meeting or two would be just Sub-committee
meetings.
Chair R. Green volunteered to be on the Sub-committee, as well as Commissioners
Long, Gee and Vice Chair Sweetnam.
Director Bernard indicated that a Staff member and Recording Secretary will be made
available for the meetings.
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NEW BUSINESS
3. VIEW RESTORATION COMMISSION RULES AND PROCEDURES (V.R.C.
RESOLUTION NO. 94-1).
In reviewing V.R.C. Resolution 94-1, Commissioner Black noted that throughout the
document 'View Restoration Committee" should be 'View Restoration Commission".
Vice Chair Sweetnam pointed out that the last paragraph on Page 1 clarified what
constitutes a quorum.
Commissioner Gee was unclear on the procedure of alternate members and how they
are chosen if a Commissioner is absent while hearing a view restoration case.
Planning Administrator Petru explained it is on a rotating basis as each case arises.
Staff will keep tract of the rotation.
Chair R. Green asked Staff to explain the procedure for site visits.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that a Staff Report, which would be delivered
to the commission 30 days in advance of the hearing, would include the name,
address, and phone number of all foliage owners and applicants. A notice would be
sent to applicants and foliage owners informing them when the meeting is scheduled
and that members of the View Restoration Commission would be visiting and when to
expect them. Ms. Petru explained that the Commissioners could go independently or in
groups of two or three to visit the properties involved in the case.
Commissioner Long asked if there were any guidelines as to the appropriate time of
day for site visits.
Vice Chair Sweetnam noted that daylight hours were best, even if the case involved a
city light view, since it was easy to imagine what the lights would look like at night.
Commissioner Karmelich asked if weekends were the best time to conduct site visits.
Planning Administrator Petru answered that weekends were the time when most people
were home.
Commissioner Marshall asked if the Commissioners visited the applicant's property.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that, in each case, all Commissioners voting
on the case will need to visit the applicant's property. There are also provisions to visit
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the foliage owner's property, if the foliage owner specifically requests that their property
be visited by the Commission.
In response to a question from Commissioner Karmelich, Planning Administrator Petru
explained the existing fee schedule for View Restoration Permits and the proposed
modified flat fee/trust deposit system recommended by the Commission, that will be
presented to the City Council shortly after the Development Code Revisions are
adopted.
Commissioner Long asked what the time table was looking like for applications to be
presented to the Commission.
Planning Administrator Petru felt that once the City Council adopted the Development
Code and the new View Restoration Permit Guidelines, cases could be heard almost
immediately, because of the backlog of cases that were put into suspension in 1991.
Once the backlog is completed, then the Commission would begin hearing new cases.
Ms. Petru also noted that there are approximately 27 old cases on hold, and that no
new cases had been accepted since 1991. However, she noted that there was a very
extensive interested parties list.
Vice Chair Sweetnam felt that no changes were needed to Resolution 94-1 other than
changing "Committee" to "Commission".
By acclamation of the Commission, the item is continued to May 2, 1996 to allow
Staff time to revise the Resolution.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Planning Administrator Petru explained the City Tree Review Permit policy in regards to
trees in the public right-of-way or trees on City property. City Council has directed Staff
to use the proposed Development Code language as a policy in the interim period until
the Development Code is adopted. She explained that under the new policy, Staff
decisions are appealable to the View Restoration Commission. She went on to indicate
that a recent Staff decision was likely to be appealed and would be scheduled for a
future agenda.
Director Bernard indicated that if there is an appeal, Staff will prepare a Staff Report to
the View Restoration Commission.
Vice Chair Sweetnam requested that the Staff Report be provided to the Commission
30 days in advance of the hearing to allow ample time for site visits.
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Chair R. Green requested a copy of the City Tree Review Policy, as soon as it was
available.
Director Bernard provided his farewell comments to the Commission and expressed his
esteem for the work of the View Restoration Commission, and his gratitude for the
support of his Staff during the last three years.
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Sweetnam moved to adjourn the meeting, which was seconded by
Commissioner Gee. The Regular meeting was duly adjourned at 8:40 P.M. to May
2, 1996. The Sub-committee meeting was adjourned toThursday, April 4, 1996 at
Hesse Park, 7:00 P.M.
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