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VIEW RESTORATION COMMITTEE MEETING
OCTOBER 18, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7: 08pm by Chair Clark at
Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Burrage, Boudreau, Eastwood, Lorenzen, Weisz ,
Murphy, Quatrochi, Cartwright, Clark
ABSENT Sweetnam
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Senior Planner Carolynn Petru, and Assistant City
Attorney Deborah Hakman.
COMMUNICATIONS
Senior Planner Petru noted that the Resolutions to be
approved under the Consent Calendar had been amended in
Exhibit "A" to cover certain fee refund situations.
It was also noted that a letter had been received from the
applicants on View Restoration Permit No. 5 stating that they
would be willing to exclude the Monterey Pines from the
application.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. V.R.C. Resolution No. 90-2, View Restoration Permit
No. 2 (3931 PVDS) -- Member Quatrochi moved, seconded by
Member Murphy and carried, to approve the Resolution
including the amendments which were previously read into
the record and contained in Exhibit "A" .
B. V.R.C. Resolution No. 90-3, View Restoration Permit
No. 3) 4112, 4116, 4124 Lorraine Road) -- Senior Planner
Petru stated that she had received calls from both the
applicant and property owners at 4112 and 4116 Lorraine
Road expressing disagreement with the conditions of the
permit. Attorney Hakman reminded the Committee that it
was at their discretion whether or not to reconsider and
re-notice the item. After some discussion, the Committee
decided that there was little merit to reconsider the
item, and expressed disappointment that the applicant
didn't feel their original actions were sufficient to
achieve the objective.
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Member Weisz moved to reject the request for
reconsideration, Member Quatrochi seconded, and the
motion passed on a unanimous roll call vote.
Member Burrage then moved to accept View Restoration
Permit No. 2 as amended in Exhibit "A", Member Murphy
seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were no public hearings scheduled on the agenda.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. VIEW RESTORATION Chairman Clark acknowledged
PERMIT NO. 5 correspondence from the
30341 Camino Porvenir foliage owner requesting a
continuance on this item, and
the staff suggestion that it be continued to the November 1
meeting.
Member Murphy inquired about the CEQA issue raised by the
potential removal of unusual trees, and Mr. Benard stated
that because the applicant had removed the Monterey Pines
from the application, it was no longer an issue.
Member Boudreau disclosed that the foliage owner in this case
had called her and that she had told him she could not
discuss the item, and requested that he instead send a
letter.
Member Cartwright moved to accept the staff recommendation to
continue the item, Member Weisz seconded, and the motion
passed without objection.
RECESS AND RECONVENE A 10-minute recess was called
at 8:00pm.
B. TREE REPLACEMENT POLICY Director Benard presented the
staff memo of October 12
summarizing the main issues of the original committee
discussion on the tree replacement policy.
Attorney Hakman stated that even though these were
guidelines, there could be a problem if the foliage owner was
required to replace trees and they were not in consent with
the process. The following is a point-by-point summary of
the committee discussion:
1.& 2. Whether or not guidelines should be established
Seven committee members agreed there should be a policy,
and two members thought there was no need for one, but
all agreed it should be a flexible policy with plenty of
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room for case-by-case discretionary judgement.
3. Whether or not there should be a cap on the number
of replacement trees (staff recommends ten)
Chair Clark stated he did not see the need for an
artificial cap if each case was heard on its own merits,
and that language could indicate caution against
excessive replacement. Cartwright and Quatrochi both
felt there were too many variables to be able to specify
a number, but the general consensus was that there should
be some sort of limit on the number of replacement trees
required.
4. Specification of size of replacement trees
(Staff recommends minimum replacement size of
15 gallons with 24 inches as an alternative)
Member Quatrochi pointed out that the size of the trees
affects their survival , and suggested that an information
handout be made available to the foliage owners that
could also include more types of trees suitable as
replacements than just ornamentals. Member Lorenzen
stated she felt there should be no minimum size stated so
that foliage owners could purchase more drought-resistant
1-gallon bushes instead if desired. The general consensus
was that there should be a replacement size specified.
5. Number of replacement trees per specified square
foot area (Staff recommends one per 400 sq.ft. )
Based on the theory that trees only allowed to reach 16'
would grow wider than usual , Member Lorenzen suggested
that the guidelines specify one replacement tree per 1000
sq.ft. instead. Director Benard pointed out that with
the average rear yard being 1800-2500 sq.ft. , increasing
the limit to 1000 sq.ft. could potentially only allow for
replacement of one tree. Member Murphy suggested a
compromise of 600 sq.ft. , and for the information of the
committee, Mr. Benard also outlined the exact circular
diameters of the suggested square foot areas. Chair
Clark stated he felt this question should also be judged
on a case-by-case basis, but the general consensus (with
Members Cartwright and Burrage dissenting) was that the
number of replacement trees should be specified as
limited to one per 1000 sq.ft. , with written latitude to
increase the density if the committee so desired.
6. Costs for replacement trees (Committee had suggested
foliage owner pay for first five, applicant for
second five; staff recommends alternating costs with
first tree responsibility of foliage owner, second
tree responsibility of applicant, and alternating up
to ten.
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Attorney Hakman cautioned against requiring the foliage
owner to pay for replacement trees and possible risk of
challenge. Lorenzen expressed concern that an applicant
might have to pay for tree replacement on more than one
property and supported the committee recommendation, as
did Quatrochi and Burrage. Cartwright, Boudreau and
Eastwood agreed that although both applicant and owners
were facing big expenses, it was an especially unfair
burden for the foliage owners, and that the applicant
should bear the major cost burden. Murphy agreed with
the Attorney's assessment; Clark agreed with the staff
recommendation, Weisz pointed out that the original
concept had been that the applicant had already sustained
application expenses, and that the committee
recommendation might encourage both parties to resolve
the issue privately. The final consensus was that the
sharing of expenses was appropriate, although some did
feel it should be borne strictly by the applicant.
Chair Clark moved, seconded by Member Quatrochi and carried
unanimously, to establish a written tree replacement policy
to be contained in the Committee guidelines.
Chair Clark moved to adopt the guidelines as follows,
seconded by Member Quatrochi and carried on an 8-1 vote, with
Member Cartwright dissenting on the basis of the assignation
of financial responsibility for replacement:
(Based on the October 12 staff memo, attached) To adopt the
essence of the Paragraph #1 concept as discussed; to adopt
Paragraph #2;
For Paragraph #3, that there would be an identification of no
more than ten ( 10) trees as eligible for replacement but that
the number could be altered on a case-by-case basis at the
discretion of the committee;
In Paragraph #4, that the policy identify replacement trees
and other types of foliage without specifically limiting size
parameters to allow multiples of smaller sizes to a standard
based on 15 gallons;
That Paragraph #5 use a basis of 1000 sq.ft. as a replacement
guideline, with case-by-case flexibility at the discretion of
the committee; and that Paragraph #6 balancing the costs of
replacement between the applicant and foliage owner(s) follow
the committee recommendation that the first five 15-gallon
trees or the equivalent thereof be the responsibility of the
foliage owner, and the next five or equivalent be the
responsibility of the applicant. The motion also included
staff recommendations that a) dead foliage is not included;
b) drought-tolerant foliage be encouraged; c) to define a
tree as having a 3" or larger trunk diameter, and d) that no
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penalty will be assessed to the applicant if the foliage
owner does not wish to replace the foliage.
Director Benard expressed the staff's disagreement with the
1000 sq. ft. minimum.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business on the agenda.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
There were no questions from the audience.
STAFF REPORTS
1 . Status of View Restoration Permit Applications --
Senior Planner Petru stated that there are now 21
applications.
2. Visitation of Foliage Owner' s Property by Committee
Members -- After a discussion, it was suggested that the
Chair, not the staff, determine when it would be appropriate
for the Committee to visit a foliage owner's site. It was
also noted that although this could double the number of site
visits, it might make for less staff work and continuances in
the end. Attorney Hakman expressed concern that not visiting
the foliage owner could create a due process question.
Member Cartwright moved to revise the current procedures, but
withdrew his motion so that staff could bring the item back
at a later date for further discussion.
3. Stump Removal Policy -- Member Quatrochi moved, seconded
by Member Miesz and carried, to adopt the policy as written.
4. December 20 meeting -- Ms. Petru suggested cancelling
the second December meeting, and the Committee agreed.
5. Director Benard stated that the City Council had
scheduled a budget workshop on November 30, and he encouraged
the Committee to attend and bring up the subject of expenses
reimbursement. Chair Clark stated his intent to draft
correspondence regarding the issue to the City Manager on
behalf of the entire Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11 : 25pm.
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