PC MINS 19990713CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 13, 1999
CALL TO ORDER
Approv d 07/27/99
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Cartwright at 7.00 P.M. at the
Hesse Park Community Room, 29310 Hawthorne Boulevard
FLAG SALUTE
Commissioner Alberio led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag
ROLL CALL
Present- Commissioners Alberio, Clark, Paris, Slayden, Vice Chairman
Lyon, and Chairman Cartwright
Absent. Commissioner Vannorsdall was excused
Also present were Director/Secretary Rous, Associate Planner Mihranian,
Assistant Planner Schonborn, and Recording Secretary Atuatasi
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve the agenda as presented,
seconded by Commissioner Slayden and approved without objection, (6-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Council Policy Items
Director/Secretary Rotas updated the Commission on the City Council Meeting of
July 6, 1999 The topics discussed at the meeting included 1) an appeal of the
Planning Commission's approval of Tentative Parcel Map No 24679, which was
overturned by the City Council and direction to Staff to come back with the
resolution of denial at an Adjourned Meeting on July 15, 1999, and, 2) Revision
'J' to the Ocean Trails protect to Conditional Use Permit No 163 for the Ocean
Trails project.
Staff
None
Commission
Chairman Cartwright reported on his attendance at the Mayor's Monthly
Breakfast and informed the Commission that discussion focused on the Ocean
Trails project.
Commissioner Paris briefly updated the Commission on the status of the
renovation of the Ralphs Supermarket located on Hawthorne Boulevard and
Crest Road.
Commissioner Alberio informed the commission that he received an item of
correspondence pertaining to the Kispal project.
Commissioner Clark informed the Commission of an article published in the Los
Angeles Times regarding a vandalism incident that occurred at the Ocean Trails
site
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. MINUTES OF JUNE 22, 1999
Commissioner Paris requested an insertion be made on page 2, paragraph 2,
line 5, to read as, `....make that adjustment. He stated that Vice Chairman
Lyon had asked that same question....', a modification to paragraph 8, page 9
since there were two separate sentences not relative to one another and
requested insertion of a new paragraph after the words, `... and structure
problems.' and begin paragraph 9 with the words `He felt that it was not right to
give this property special considerations....'; page 13, paragraph 6, line 1 the
modification to read as, `....did not believe that it was appropriate to ,give Mrs.
Kispal.... , page 14, paragraph 1, line 2 be modified to read as, `....did not feel
an exchange of opinion between the Commission and speakers was...';
and, a paragraph insertion be made after paragraph 4 to read as,
`....Commissioner Paris answered that the Commission should ask for
clarification....'
Commissioner Albeno requested a that modification be made on page 2,
paragraph 2, to read as, ....asked Mr. Florance....' and on page 5, paragraph
5, line 2 to read as, '....to do it if he could....'
Commissioner Clark requested a paragraph insertion be made at the bottom of
page 13 to read as, `....Commissioner Clark agreed that everyone has the
right to express their point of view. However, he felt it was....'
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Chairman Cartwright requested a modification be made on page 14, paragraph 2
to read as, `....he often asks them what their key....' and paragraph 4 to read
as, `if he felt the Commission should not ask the speakers for any
clarification....'.
Commissioner Slayden moved to approve the minutes as amended. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Clark, (5-0-1) with Commissioner
Slayden abstaining since he was not present at that meeting.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
2. Conditional Use Permit No. 23 — Revision " FFF". Variance No. 454
and Gradina Permit No. 2089: Hani Nassif. (owner). 3412 Palo Vist
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#100 Manhattan Beach.
Assistant Planner Schonborn gave a summation of the proposed project The
applicant requested approval for a revised footprint and development different
from that previously approved under Conditional Use Permit No 23 and the
Seacliff Hills Development Guidelines. This would allow the construction of a
5,570 square foot single-family residence with an attached garage, associated
grading of 421 cubic yards, and approval of a portion of the new residence to
contain a roof deck
Assistant Planner Schonborn noted that the proposed project met all of the
requirements within the Seacliff Hills Development Guidelines, with the exception
of the 'open space' requirement. Therefore Staff recommended denial of
Conditional Use Permit No 23 — Revision 'FFF Although the findings for the
Grading and Variance were made, the applications were an integral part of the
proposed project that were contingent upon approval of the Conditional Use
Permit, and Staff also recommended that these applications be denied
Chairman Cartwright asked if there were any speakers for this item and Staff
replied that there two speaker request submitted
Commissioner Slayden moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Alberio and passed.
Mr Louie Tomaro: (applicant's architect) 10016 th Street, #100, Manhattan
Beach, CA, stated that in working with the proposed plans for the project he tried
to abide by the guidelines Mr Tomaro pointed out that the percentage of open
space increased, but worked within the envelope that was established from a
previous proposed project on this site. Mr. Tomaro reiterated the applicant's
request as explained by Assistant Planner Schonborn and noted that the
residents located on the same side of the street as the proposed project included
roof decks, similar to that proposed. Regarding the architectural style of the
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proposed home, Mr Tomaro stated that it was compatible with the surrounding
homes in the area and concluded his testimony with a request to the Commission
for approval of the proposed project.
Commissioner Albeno inquired about the geology analysis for the subject area
and Mr. Tomaro replied that the geology analysis and grading plans were
reviewed and preliminarily approved
Commissioner Paris asked Mr. Tomaro why the request for extra square footage
to the walkway of the home was so critical and Mr. Tomaro replied that a large
amount of steps leading to the home were needed due to the hillside.
Commissioner Pans asked Mr. Tomaro if it was possible to relocate the garage
closer toward the entryway in order to cut back on the square footage for
hardscape and the building mass. Mr. Tomaro replied that he was trying to
minimize the height of the wall from the entryway of the proposed home.
Ms. Dara Nassif, (applicant) 27789 Palos Verdes Drive East, stated that her
architect designed the proposed home to fulfill the needs of her and her husband
and requested that the Commission approve the proposed project.
Commissioner Alberio moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Vice Chairman Lyon and passed.
Chairman Cartwright asked for Commission discussion and comments on this
item
Commissioner Clark felt that the issue for the `open space' requirement was
relatively minor. There was no discussion amongst or reasoning for the
Commission to request the architect/applicant for modifications of the proposed
home to allow for the required open space/lot coverage as established in the
guidelines and suggested that perhaps the Commission may want to discuss this
concern.
Commissioner Slayden noted that there were approximately four homes in the
surrounding area that exceeded the `open space' requirement and believed that
the proposed home and roof deck was acceptable to him Commissioner
Slayden felt that the proposed project would enhance the community
appearance.
Commissioner Paris agreed with comments of Commissioner Clark. He
suggested the applicant relocate the garage closer to the entrance of the home
Commissioner Paris felt that the modification could be accomplished, the
adjustment would be minor, and the open space/lot coverage requirement would
be closer to that required by the guidelines
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Vice Chairman Lyon stated that the proposed project was not highly visible and
was compatible with the homes in the surrounding area. Vice Chairman Lyon
favored the proposed project and supported the request of the applicant
Commissioner Albeno concurred with the comments of Commissioner Slayden
and Vice Chairman Lyon and favored the approval for the proposed protect
Chairman Cartwright stated that the applicant adhered to the provisions within
the guidelines for the proposed project and noted that the Commission approved
similar projects in the past He also stated that the roof deck was not a problem
and supported the applicant's request.
Commissioner Alberio moved to accept the applicant's request and
approved Conditional Use Permit No. 23 — Revision `FFF' and Grading
Permit No. 2089 via minute order, subject to conditions and adopted P.C.
Resolution No. 99-22; thereby approving Variance No. 454. The motion was
seconded by Vice Chairman Lyon and passed (5-1) by a roll -call vote, with
Commissioner Paris dissenting.
Chairman Cartwright noted the 15 -day appeal period.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
Chairman Cartwright called for a brief recess at 8 20 p.m until the meeting
reconvened at 8:30 p m
3. VARIANCE NO. 449 and SITE PLAN REVIEW NO 8223• Michael
Associate Planner Mihrarnan briefly described the subject area and the proposed
project He stated that the applicant requested construction of a 101 square foot
addition to the garage of the existing single-family residence and convert 131
square feet of non -habitable floor area into habitable floor area within the existing
garage. Further, the applicant submitted a Variance request in order to exceed
the City's maximum structure size criteria
Associate Planner Mihranian stated that one of the findings (No 1) for the
Variance could not be met since there were no unique features with the subject
property that would limit the applicant from developing the subject property
similar to other properties within the same zoning district Based on the analysis
and discussion for the proposed protect Staff recommended denial of Variance
No 449 and Site Plan Review No 8553
Associate Planner Khranian informed the Commission that no letters of
opposition were received by Staff within the 15 -day noticing period
Chairman Cartwright asked if there were any speakers for this item and Staff
replied there were four speakers requesting to give testimony.
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Commissioner Slayden moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Alberio and passed.
Mr. Thomas Russell 7 Mustang Road, stated his admiration on the beautiful
design of the applicant's existing home and favored the proposed addition. Mr
Russell stated that the subject property sets the standard in the neighborhood
and requested that the Commission approve the addition
Mr Lindsay Olson, 10 Mustang Road, reiterated comments of the previous
speaker, favored the proposed addition, and encouraged the Commission to
grant the applicant's request.
Mrs John A. Miller, 4 Rockinghorse Road, stated that the applicant's home was
the best looking house in the neighborhood. She stated that the garage is
recessed and that the proposed addition to the front of the garage would
enhance the interior as well as the exterior appearance of the existing home
Mr Don Thursby, (applicant's architect), 777 Silver Spur Road, #232, Rolling
Hills Estates, CA, commended Associate Planner Mihranian for a thorough
presentation of the Staff Report He reiterated his client's request and pointed
out to the Commission that the proposed addition was very small to enlarge the
existing residence Mr Thursby urged the Commission to approve the proposed
addition and was present to answer any questions from the Commission
Mr Mike Trapani, (applicant), 7 Rockinghorse Road, thanked his neighbors for
supporting his request Mr Trapani stated his request for a 101 square foot
addition to the garage included a game room and a bathroom. Mr. Trapani
requested approval from the Commission to move forward with his proposed
addition
Commissioner Alberio moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Clark and passed.
Chairman Cartwright asked for Commission discussion and comments on this
item.
Commissioner Paris felt that the proposed addition was not intrusive, increased
the functional aspect of the subject property and not the hardscape He believed
that the applicant should move forward with the proposed addition.
Commissioner Slayden concurred with the comments of Commissioner Paris and
supported the applicant's request for the proposed addition.
Commissioner Clark stated that the proposed addition would enhance the
appearance of the existing home.
Commissioner Alberio and Vice Chairman Lyon concurred with their colleagues
and were also supportive of the applicant's request
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Chairman Cartwright stated that he saw no reason for not approving the
proposed addition and he also supported the applicant's request.
Vice Chairman Lyon moved to approve Variance No. 449 and Site Plan
Review No. 8553 with direction to Staff to prepare the appropriate P.C.
Resolution for consideration at the Planning Commission Meeting of July
27, 1999. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Paris and passed
(6-0) by a roll -call vote.
Chairman Cartwright noted the 15 -day appeal period until July 27, 1999
At this time, the Commissioners briefly discussed roof decks and maximum
structure size and a consensus was decided to agendize these topics for a
detailed discussion
Commissioner Clark moved to agendize the topics of `roof decks' and
`maximum structure size' for further discussion at the Planning
Commission Meeting of August 10, 1999. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Alberio and passed, (6-0).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. COASTAL PERMIT No. 156, GRADING PERMIT NO. 2098, and
VARIANCE NO. 448 — THE ABALONE COVE BEACH IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT: City of Rancho Palos Verdes (applicant)
Director/Secretary Rotas summarized the Staff Report and stated that the
request consisted of the following- construction for a 1,300 square foot restroom
structure; 150 square foot gate house, two 625 square foot shade structures; four
81 square foot Palapa structures; 10,371 cubic yards of grading activity,
rehabilitation of an existing Cabana structure, improvement and widening of an
entrance roadway; and, other site improvements to the existing beach use site
located at Abalone Cove.
Director/Secretary Rous noted that the Mitigated Negative Declaration (MND) for
the proposed project was circulated for public review and that Staff received
many comment letters He informed the Commission that one of the letters from
the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the California Department of Fish and
Game requested that additional surveys be conducted and included in a revised
MND Staff anticipates this analysis to be completed within the next two weeks
Therefore, Staff recommended that the public hearing of this item be continued to
the Planning Commission Meeting of August 10, 1999
Chairman Cartwright asked if there were any speakers for this item and Staff
replied that there were no speaker requests submitted.
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Chairman Cartwright asked for Commission comments and discussion on this
item and there were none.
Commissioner Clark moved to accept Staff's recommendation, to continue
the Public Hearing of this item to the Planning Commission Meeting of
August 10, 1999. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberio and
passed, (6-0) by a roll -call vote.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff
5.
Commission
Commissioner Clark requested that an item be agendized for the August 10,
1999 Planning Commission meeting to discuss the scheduling of the next City
Council/Planning Commission Joint Workshop.
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
None
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chairman Lyon moved to adjourn, seconded by Commissioner Paris The
meeting was adjourned at 9.28 p.m. to the next regular meeting on July 27, 1999
at Hesse Park
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