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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 25, 1999
CALL TO ORDER
APPROVED 6/$/99
The meeting was called to order at 7,00 p m. by Chairman Cartwright at the Fred
Hesse Community Building, 29310 Hawthorne Boulevard
FLAG SALUTE
Commissioner Albeno led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag
ROLL CALL
Present. Commissioners Alberio, Paris, Slayden, and Chairman Cartwright
Absent Commissioners Clark, Vannorsdall, and Vice Chair Lyon were
excused
Also present were Director/Secretary Rous, Associate Planner Mihranian,
Assistant Planner Louie, Assistant Planner Schonborn, and Recording Secretary
Peterson.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Paris moved to approve the agenda as presented, seconded
by Commissioner Alberio. Approved, (4-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Council Polis Items
tems
Director/Secretary Rous gave a summary of the planning related items acted
upon by the City Council on May 18, 1999 He noted that since the city is
beginning preparations to amend the housing element, the City Council approved
the submittal of a letter to the Southern California Association of Governments
(SCAG) citing City issues regarding the method used to determine the number of
affordable housing units which represents the City's fair share He informed the
Commission that the amendments to the housing element would be before the
Commission either late in 1999 or early 2000. Finally, Director Rojas informed
the Commission that the Seabreeze project was before the City Council as work
was being performed at the project on a Sunday, contrary to the conditions of
approval The owner appeared before the City Council and was warned, but the
job was not stopped
Staff
Director/Secretary Rojas distributed the Resolution related to Item No 5 of the
agenda that was inadvertently left out of the agenda packet and an item of late
correspondence relating to Item No 2 of the agenda
Commission
Commissioner Paris asked staff to investigate the retaining wall on Hawthorne
Boulevard which extends around Palos Verdes Drive South and stated that
different sections of the wall needed repairing
CONSENT CALENDAR
MINUTES OF MAY 11, 1999
Commissioner Paris pointed out on page 2, the third paragraph down should be
omitted as it was discussed at a prior meeting. The Commissioners agreed
Commissioner Alberio felt that on page 8 the second on the motion should be
clarified
Chairman Cartwright pointed out on page 6, third paragraph from the bottom, the
word "expedite" should be changed to "determine"
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve the minutes as amended,
seconded by Commissioner Paris. There being no objection, the minutes
were approved.
Chairman Cartwright felt that, regarding agenda item No 2, there appeared to be
several audience members who wished to speak on the subject. He felt it would
therefore be more appropriate to remove the item from the Consent Calendar
and discuss it during the Public Hearings portion of the agenda. There was no
objection from the Commission
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2 EXTENSION OF HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 827 AND GRADING PERMIT
NO. 1887 Magda Kispal (requestor), 7455 Alida Place
Director/Secretary Rojas explained that on June 9, 1998 the Planning
Commission approved the subject height variation and grading permit. The code
establishes a 180 day period for the validity of the height variation approvals
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However, a grading application is valid for one year. The new code has
language that requires applications to be processed together as a package In
staffs opinion, therefore, the approval of the application package is valid until
June 9, 1999 The applicant has requested an additional 6 month extension so
that the approvals would be valid until December 9, 1999 Although extensions
are usually granted at staff level, the new code stipulates that extensions are to
be approved by the body that approved the application The code also states
that the extension request does not require a notice or hearing He explained
that staff was recommending a one time, one year extension so the approvals
would be valid until June 9, 2000,
Commissioner Alberio expressed concern over extending these applications
longer than the code allows. He asked staff if it would be possible to consult with
the city attorney on this issue, as he felt that if two sections of the code are in
conflict the stricter meaning of the two should prevail
Chairman Cartwright asked staff if they normally try to link applications together
for one project
Director/Secretary Rous answered that this has always been the practice of the
department and it is now required due to the new code amendments Multiple
applications for a single project have been linked together because it would not
be possible to build the project without approval of all of the applications.
Commissioner Paris questioned the reason for the extension
Director/Secretary Rous responded that the applicant was requesting the
extension so she would have some additional time to submit structural plans into
plan check with the Building and Safety Division.
Chairman Cartwright opened the public hearing.
Magda Kispel (applicant) 7455 Alida Place explained that she was asking for an
extension because she wanted to sell the property with approved plans and
because her architect has had trouble finishing the plans She stated that her
financial situation has dramatically changed as well as the fact that her husband
is seriously ill, She stressed that she was not asking for any change to the
approvals, simply an extension to allow for the architect to finish the plans for
submittal to Building and Safety.
Commissioner Paris asked Mrs Kispal to clarify if she had any intention on living
on this property or if she just wanted the plans approved so she could sell the lot
with approved plans
Mrs Kispal answered that they had originally planned to build the home and live
there but now they intended to sell the lot with approved plans Mrs Kispal
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questioned whether it mattered who owned the lot when the approved home is
being built
Commissioner Alberio felt that Mrs Kispal's delay was self -Imposed as she has
control over her architect and over the amount of time that has passed since the
Planning Commission approval
Theodore Shield One World Trade Center, Dong Beach, stated he was
representing four of the five residents on Allda Place He stated that after
reading the staff report he questioned how much reliance a person could put Into
actions by staff and the Commission He stated that a letter to the Klspals
granting the height variation stated that the approval was good for only 180 days
He further stated that another letter from staff stated that the Height Variation had
expired, but the letter did not say anything about one application having 6 months
and one year on the other application.
Chairman Cartwright asked Mr Shield if he understood the explanation the staff
gave regarding linking multiple applications together for a single project
Mr Shield responded that he did hear the explanation, but there had never been
any indication of this in any of the prior correspondence with Mrs Kispal
Commissioner Slayden commented to Mr Shield that the Commission had spent
considerable time last year in the approval of this project He wondered if this
objection to the extension was an attempt to kill the protect
Mr. Shield answered the neighbors were never satisfied with the approved
project and the main goal of their objection to the extension was that a future
owner of the lot would have to submit a new application which could result in a
residence that was much more compatible with the neighborhood
Harold Reaves 7435 Alida Place stated that when the Commission was hearing
this application last year Mrs Kispal had stated that this was a personal project
for which she had definite plans to move into in no less than 6 months He also
reminded the Commission that at that time he had raised the issue that this was
to be a speculation property. He showed the Commission a "real estate spec.
sheet" regarding the project dated August, 1998 That was less than 60 days
after the discussion of her living on this property. He also pointed out that under
the new code this 7,336 square foot proposed residence would actually only be
allowed on up to one third of the property, making the residence a maximum of
5,200 square feet He felt that, In reading the correspondence, the height
variation had expired and was therefore not subject to an extension
Mrs Kispal (in rebuttal) stated that the neighbors do not want to see anything
built on this property and that, based on a technicality, they were still trying to kill
the project.
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Commissioner Alberio moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Slayden. There being no objection, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Paris asked staff if, for some reason, this extension request was
to be denied, would the applicant then be subject to the new standards of the
development code.
Director/Secretary Rous answered that the original height variation was
submitted and processed under the old development code, therefore any new
application would be subject to the standards of the new development code
Commissioner Paris then asked staff if the inability to sell a property was a valid
reason for an extension.
Director/Secretary responded that the code does not address this issue so it
would be up to the Commission to determine if that was a valid reason.
Chairman Cartwright asked staff to clarify if he was correct in assuming that even
though the height variation has technically expired, the grading permit is still valid
and whether staff felt that they should have been linked together initially and that
is why staff is now recommending a one time, one year extension of the entire
application package
Director/Secretary Rous agreed
Commissioner Slayden asked staff if granting extensions to projects was
something that staff did on a routine basis, as he knows there are other projects
in the city that have been approved yet have not been built
Director/Secretary Rojas agreed that most extensions have been done routinely
at a staff level until the adoption of the new development code
Commissioner Albeno felt that this was a self imposed hardship on this property
and he was inclined to deny the request
Commissioner Paris felt that the only reason a request for extension was
submitted was because of their inability to sell the property and an attempt to
hold on to the old code guidelines He did not feel this was a compelling reason
to grant an extension
Commissioner Slayden disagreed He felt this was a reasonable request for an
extension. Quite a bit of time had been spent on this approval and he believes
the applicant should have every opportunity to build it
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Chairman Cartwright agreed with Commissioner Slayden. He recalled the
applicant stating she was going to live in the house, however because of a
change in financial status and the illness of her husband that was no longer
possible He felt that constituted a substantial hardship and was inclined to
approve the extension He further observed that it was fairly obvious that any
vote taken tonight would end in a tie, therefore he suggested continuing the item
to the next meeting when the full Commission would be in attendance
Chairman Cartwright moved to continue the item to the next Planning
Commission meeting of June 8, 1999, seconded by Commissioner Slayden.
The motion failed (2-2) with Commissioners Alberio and Paris dissenting.
Commissioner Alberio moved to deny the extension, in which case the
current approval will expire on June 9, 1999, seconded by Commissioner
Paris. The motion failed (2-2) with Commissioner Slayden and Chairman
Cartwright dissenting.
Commissioner Alberio pointed out that if the Planning Commission denies the
time extension the applicant always has the option of appealing the decision to
the City Council.
Director/Secretary Rous explained that if the Commission denies the extension
Mrs Kispal will have until June 9, 1999 to submit plans to Building and Safety for
plan check, otherwise the approvals will expire He stated that it is the policy of
the Department that, if a project has gone through a public hearing process
which results in a Planning Commission final decision, the Department should try
to maintain that decision for as long as possible. The code also states that if any
development permit becomes null and void it can be reissued by the Director if
no changes to the plans are being proposed, if it has been less than one year,
and half the application fee is paid
Chairman Cartwright stated that if there is a good reason to deny this extension
he has not yet heard it He felt it would cause a hardship on the owners to deny
the extension
Commissioner Alberio moved to continue the item to the June 8, 1999
Planning Commission meeting in order for staff to receive an opinion from
the City Attorney as to the policy of linking applications together that
expire at different times, seconded by Chairman Cartwright. The motion
passed, (4-0).
RECESS AND RECONVENE
At 8.08 p m. the Commission took a short recess until 8,18 p m at which time
they reconvened.
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3 SITE PLAN REVIEW NO 8554 MINOR EXCEPTION PERMIT NO 545
AND GRADING PRMIT NO 2111 Abraham Witteles 4714 Browndeer Lane
Assistant Planner Louie presented the staff report She explained the applicant
was attempting to legalize a non -permitted retaining wall located along the front,
street side of the property In addition, the applicants desire to install a 1'8" to
2'6" high wrought iron fence above the retaining wall, giving the wall an overall
height of 6 feet. She stated that staff had contacted the Public Works
Department to determine if the proposal would obstruct any oncoming traffic
The Senior Engineer in Public Works, David McBride, determined that the
building pad in the front yard area is at a higher elevation than the top of the
retaining wall, and the wall does not control site visibility at the intersection of
Browndeer Lane and Lone Valley Drive He determined there would be no
obstruction to oncoming traffic Furthermore, staff felt the fence was needed to
serve as a protective barrier to the residence and their children since the front
yard is higher than the adjacent street level.
Commissioner Slayden asked staff if this approval would affect the grape stake
fence currently on the property
Assistant Planner Louie answered that the fence was not a part of this approval
as it had been previously approved. She stated the applicant could replace the
grape stake fence with wrought iron without city approval.
Commissioner Paris stated his concern regarding traffic visibility as one travels
down the hill at the intersection He stated there is no stop sign there and going
down hill you may not see the car coming from the left.
Assistant Planner Louie replied that the senior engineer had performed a careful
analysis and had determined that there was no hazardous obstruction to traffic,
and due to the height and the fence being situated further in from the curb there
was sufficient visibility.
Commissioner Paris asked if the Commission was setting a dangerous precedes
in not only allowing an illegally constructed retaining wall, but then allowing the
owner to add to it
Assistant Planner Louie answered that staff was able to make the findings for
allowing the owners to exceed the allowable height
Commissioner Slayden moved to open the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection, the public hearing was
opened.
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Dr. Abe Witteles (applicant) 4714 Browndeer Lane felt staff did an excellent job in
the staff report in describing the circumstances and the need for the retaining
wall He stated the retaining wall was built at the same time that an extensive
addition and remodel was taking place He was under the assumption that the
retaining wall was included in the permit for the addition, as the retaining wall
was needed to stabilize the side of the hill He was not aware that the retaining
wall was unpermitted until he applied for the wrought iron fence permit. He
emphasized the reason for the wrought iron fence was to prevent residents,
especially the children, from falling from the front yard and side yard to a very
hard concrete sidewalk 42 inches below
Commissioner Paris wondered if the applicant was planning to add spikes to the
top of the wrought iron fence
Dr Witteles responded that no spikes would be used on the top
Commissioner Alberio moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Slayden. There being no objection, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Paris repeated his concern regarding the view interference for
persons driving down hill and looking around the corner to the left. He wondered
if the retaining wall could be dropped in height a little to help improve visibility
Commissioner Slayden felt that if the senior engineer of the Public Works
Department felt there was no view problem he was satisfied
Commissioner Slayden moved to approve Site Plan Review No. 8554, Minor
Exception Permit No. 545, and Grading Permit No. 2111 as presented,
thereby adopting P.C. Resolution No 99-17, seconded by Commissioner
Alberio. The motion passed, (4-0).
Chairman Cartwright called to the applicant's attention that one of the
Commissioners felt they should take a closer look at intersection visibility and if
they felt there was something they could do to improve it they might consider
taking that action
4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 23 REVISION 'EEE', VARIANCE NO. 442
AND GRADING PERMIT NO. 2112 Stewart Trusts (applicant) 2909 Vista
Del Mar
Associate Planner Mihranian presented the staff report. He explained that the
property was located in the Seacliff Hills development and at the time the tract
was created the developer had intended to subdivide the lots and build private
residences However, the lots were sold individually to be developed with
custom homes A Conditional Use Permit was approved at that time by the
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Planning Commission that established the building footprints for each lot.
Therefore, any revision to the structure requires a revision to the CUP He
explained that the applicant was requesting to build 670 square feet on the lower
level of the home, 400 would be built under an existing balcony By definition,
that creates a roof deck which is prohibited under the development code He
explained the other segments of the addition and stated that staff recommends
approval of the application
Commissioner Alberio commented that he did not think this type of situation was
what the code intended in its restriction of roof decks He felt the intent was to
prohibit decks built on top of a house, where this situation is more like a balcony
Chairman Cartwright agreed that the intent of prohibiting roof decks does not
really apply in this situation
Commissioner Slayden moved to open the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection the public hearing was
opened.
Roslyn Stewart (applicant) 2903 Vista Del Mar stated that staff had done an
excellent job in the staff report and she was available to answer any questions
the Commission may have
Director/Secretary Rojas commented that staff realizes that the prohibition of roof
decks has created problems for applicants when designing additions or new
homes, and that staff has been contemplating an interpretation of the code
section that will try to allow situations where a roof deck is beneficial as a design
He commented that if the Commission has concerns on this issue that they might
want to agendize this item for discussion.
Chairman Cartwright thought that was an excellent idea to discuss at the next
joint City Council / Planning Commission workshop
Commissioner Slayden moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Paris. There being no objection the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve Conditional Use Permit No. 23 -
Revision EEE, Variance No. 442, and Grading Permit No. 2112 as presented
by staff, thereby adopting P.C. Resolution No. 99-18, seconded by
Commissioner Slayden. Approved, (4-0).
Chairman Cartwright stated that the Planning Commission does support the
intentions of the City Council to ensure that no roof decks are allowed to be built,
however in this case because of unusual and exceptional circumstances, the
deck should be allowed
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5. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 8439 and SITE PLAN REVIEW NO, 8439
Olympia Greer (applicant), Brent Meyer and Nancy Parsons (owner), 7361
Berry Hill Drive
Assistant Planner Schonborn presented the staff report explaining the proposal
was to add to the detached garage 85 square feet and construct a 425 square
foot second story room addition over the garage He stated the proposed project
does not obstruct the views from any of the neighboring properties nor does it
result in any unreasonable infringement on the privacy of the occupants of
adjacent properties. However staff did not feel the project met the requirements
of neighborhood compatibility He stated staff had concerns with the bulk and
mass of the project In addition the proposed structure does not meet setback
requirements Based on the bulk of the structure and the location of the existing
garage at the front of the property, staff recommended denial of the height
variation, but approval of Site Plan Review 8439 via minute order for an 85
square foot addition to the detached garage
Chairman Cartwright asked staff if their main concern was the 20 foot high
structure being built at the front of the property.
Director/Secretary Rojas responded that the finding for neighborhood
compatibility could not be made because of where the addition is situated on the
property, the fact that it is a detached structure close to the street, and the
adjoining residences do not have similar additions on detached garages He
commented that the architect had done a tremendous job in trying to address the
design issues and soften the bulk and mass of the project, but staff could not
make the neighborhood compatibility finding.
Commissioner Slayden moved to open the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection the public hearing was
opened.
Olympia Greer (applicant) 267 Palos Verdes Drive West, Palos Verdes Estates
explained a little of the background involved with this project She stated the
owners desired a space that would be used as an office area The intent was to
create a useable attic space She attempted to mitigate the impact the addition
would have. She pointed out that there were several other two story residences
in the area She disagreed with the statement in the staff report that this is a
"pop up" design She felt that was a biased point of view and clarified her belief
that what was being proposed was useable attic space, not a pop up She
stated when she proposed this project to her clients she also had alternative
proposals for them to consider. She stated when she showed staff the different
alternatives it was suggested she abandon the idea of going out toward the
sidewalk, which would require a variance She was told it would be best for her
to expand out toward the side She also had originally designed an exterior
stairway that was toward the rear of the addition She said that staff indicated
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that if she removed the exterior stairs then basically the design was acceptable to
staff Therefore, she placed the stairway inside the garage She commented
that she complied with all of the staff's recommendations and was surprised to
learn that staff was recommending denial of the project
Commissioner Slayden asked if her client had considered a second story
addition onto the main portion of the house
Ms. Greer responded that they had originally considered that, but due to the fact
that they had a new baby in the house they were not willing to disrupt their lives
as much.
Commissioner Slayden asked if there was room in the back of the house for an
addition.
Ms Greer answered that there was room but the overall layout of the house
would have to be changed
Chairman Cartwright stated he had gone to the house three times and was very
concerned with the apparent bulk and massiveness of the proposed addition
when you turn the corner onto Berry Hill Drive. He drove throughout the
neighborhood trying to find something similar, and though he did find second
story additions he did not find anything comparable to the mass and bulk that this
would create. He felt that connecting the main structure with some part of the
garage might be an alternative to soften the appearance of the project.
Ms. Greer stated that the garage does leap at you as you turn the corner as it is
the only visible portion of the house Once you come around the corner you
begin to perceive the angle of the entire house.
Brent Meyer (owner) 7361 Berry Hill Drive stated he had considered a second
story addition onto the residence and three or four other variations to the
addition. He felt it came down to whether they could disrupt their lives for 9 to 12
months for construction with a new baby and they decided they could not do
that He considered building off of the master bedroom but felt that was not
feasible He also considered filling in the space between the residence and the
garage, however they would loose the garden area and leave two bedrooms with
no windows. Therefore the only viable option was to build over the garage He
commented that he had taken the proposed plans to all of the neighbors and
received no complaints He agreed that the garage is a prominent structure as
you come around the corner. He felt that his proposal was compatible with the
neighborhood as there are several two story homes with the detached garages in
the front of the property
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Commissioner Alberio moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Paris. There being no objection, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Paris felt that the best possible solution for this project was
presented, however he did not feel that this solution was compatible with the
neighborhood He did not feel this solution would work.
Commissioner Slayden agreed that this project would not be compatible with the
neighborhood and did think that, though it is well designed, this constituted a
"pop up" He did feel the project would be compatible if the second story were
proposed over the residence
Commissioner Alberio complimented the architect on the outstanding job she did
on the project, but did not feel there was anything that could be done to allow an
addition over the garage He felt an addition would be possible, just not over the
garage and wondered if the item should be continued to allow the applicants to
modify the plan and bring it back to the Commission
Chairman Cartwright felt the drawings looked very nice but when you go out to
the property it became clear that it was not compatible with the neighborhood.
Chairman Cartwright moved to reopen the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection, the public hearing was
opened.
Chairman Cartwright stated to Ms Greer that she had heard the concerns of the
Commission and he felt she was entitled to be heard once again as she had
worked long and hard to get the application presented to the Commission He
stated he would be reluctant to pass a motion for continuance If the applicant
was not agreeable to further modify the project. He clarified that if the
Commission denies the project they will have to start over, however if it is
continued then it may be less costly to the client.
Ms Greer questioned where this project went wrong She did not have any idea
that staff was going to recommend denial until the staff report was written
Director/Secretary Rojas acknowledged that the architect does her homework on
her projects by coming to the counter to consult with the planners He noted that
staff identified design issues early on that needed to be addressed and that is
why the architect came up with different designs to try to soften the proposal
Once the application was formally submitted to staff and staff had a chance to
conduct its neighborhood compatibility analysis, staff realized that as much as
the architect had done to soften the design, it was not something they could
recommend for approval He stated that Assistant Planner Schonborn met with
the architect before the staff report was written to go over staff's concerns.
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Chairman Cartwright stated that staff makes recommendations to the Planning
Commission and the Commission will make the decision on the project.
Commissioner Paris wondered if a revised structure over the garage would
produce the same conclusion from the Commission and secondly, if they would
be able to get the square footage they need by cutting the size of the addition
down He wondered if any revisions to the current design would be practical for
the applicant, and regardless of the revisions may not be acceptable to the
Commission
Ms. Greer stated that she never received negative feedback from the staff when
she submitted her application She did not feel there was ever a process for
improving the design, as the current design was looked at and considered a
viable project from the beginning
Commissioner Slayden responded that from experience a two story addition
separate from a house on the street will probably not be approved. He felt that
the direction from the Commission now is, where else on this property do you
want to put an addition
Mr Meyer stated that he has already worked with the planners and gone to the
Planning Commission and spent thousands of dollars on the application and
design. If someone had told him from the beginning that this design was not
going to be approved he would not have spent the time and money to move the
project forward.
Chairman Cartwright stated that staff cannot tell an applicant that a height
variation will or will not be approved, as that is a decision to be made by the
Planning Commission
Director/Secretary Rous apologized for the final outcome but explained that staff
is in a difficult situation when a project is first proposed because applicants wish
to have a definite answer on whether a project will be approved or not Although
staff does identify concerns with a project, staff will stop short of saying no to a
project since staff s role is to make recommendations to the Planning
Commission and staff does not want to be accused of pre fudging any project
before the notice is published and public comments are received
Mr. Meyer stated that there is no way to resolve this issue as far as a pop up is
concerned
Commissioner Slayden moved to closed the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection the public hearing was
closed.
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Commissioner Slayden moved to deny without prejudice Height Variation
No. 879, and approve Site Plan Review No. 8439 via minute order, thereby
adopting P.C. Resolution No. 99-19, seconded by Commissioner Alberio.
The motion passed, (4-0).
6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 151 -REVISION 'G' Warmington Homes &
Pacific Heritage Development (applicants), Tract 46651, Crest Road &
Highridge Road
Assistant Planner Schonborn presented the staff report. He stated the applicant
was requesting that the approved Conditional Use Permit be amended to delete
the condition of approval that requires the developer to submit to the city a
covenant to maintain property to protect views for each individual lot. Staff felt
the request was reasonable as on December 17, 1996 the City Council decided it
will not enforce any covenants to maintain property to protect views The City
Council also decided it would no longer require covenants to protect views at that
time The final tract map for this project was adopted August 13, 1997 which is
after the adoption of the City Council policy decision Further, there are other
conditions of approval that would remain in effect that limit the height of
landscaping and are in the tract.
Chairman Cartwright asked staff if failure to remove the covenant requirement at
the time of the final map approval was an oversight.
Assistant Planner Schonborn acknowledged that it was an oversight.
Chairman Cartwright asked staff if the Commission were to deny this request,
was it true that the City Council policy is to not enforce any convenants
Assistant Planner Schonborn agreed.
Commissioner Alberio moved to open the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Slayden, with no objection.
Bob Pittman 113 Timbre Rancho, Santa Margarita, representing Pacific Heritage
Development requested approval from the Planning Commission and stated the
approval would have no material affect on the project. He stated he was
available for any questions
Tom Alley 6304 Sattes Drive stated his home is adjacent to the project. He said
when he first read about this request in the paper his assumption was that the
landscaping was going to be permitted to grow as high as it wanted After
hearing that landscape restrictions were going to be maintained in the CC&R's
then he had no objection to the request. He further stated that it appeared the lot
next to his house has started foundation work. He did not feel the lot is in
conformance with the grading plan and requested staff check the lot. It appears
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the slope facing his house is a 1 ,l 1 slope, where the grading plan calls out for
a 2.1 slope It was his understanding that the lot should have been in
conformance before construction began
Director/Secretary Rous stated that he was aware of Mr. Alley's concerns but
was not aware that construction had started on the lot. He commented that
would contact the owners and have staff check it out.
Lois Larue 3136 Barkentine Road voiced her concern over the drainage from the
Seabreeze development into the canyon
Chairman Cartwright stated that the matter of the drainage had been referred to
the Public Works Department and asked staff to check with that department to
see what decisions had been made.
Commissioner Slayden moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. The public hearing was closed without objection.
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve Conditional Use Permit No. 151 -
Revision G as presented, thereby adopting P.C. Resolution No. 99-20,
seconded by Commissioner Slayden. The motion was approved, (4-0).
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Lois Larue 3136 Barkentine Road discussed the possibility of land movement
that is evident at Rue Beaupre. She also discussed the increased traffic that is
evident along Palos Verdes Drive South She reminded the Commission that
when it comes time to vote on the York proposal they should consider the traffic
problems. She also discussed the possibility of having council districts in the city
so that every portion is adequately represented Finally she discussed the city
insisting trees be cut on property owned by the Palos Verdes Unified School
District and the money the school district is spending to fight the city
ADJOURNMENT
At 10.18 p m Commissioner Slayden moved to adjourn the meeting to Tuesday,
June 8, 1999 in the Community Room at Hesse Park. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner Paris and passed with no objection, (4-0)
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
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