PC MINS 19980324CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 24, 1998
Approved
4/14/98
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The meeting was called to order at 7*07 P M by Chairman Clark at the Hesse Park
Community Building, 29310 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Albeno.
ROLL CALL
Present. Commissioners Alberio, Lyon, Paris, Slayden, Vannorsdall,
Vice Chairman Cartwright, and Chairman Clark
Absent None
Also present were Acting Director/Secretary Rojas, Senior Planner Snow, Associate
Planner Pfost, Associate Planner Fox, and Recording Secretary Atuatasi.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Vannorsdall moved to approve the agenda as presented. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Paris and passed, (7-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Staff
Staff distributed two items of late correspondence from Mr. Avery Knapp and
Mrs. Magda Kispall regarding Agenda Item No. 3 (Height Variation No. 827 -
Appeal) and draft Conditions of Approval pertaining to Agenda Item No. 4
(Conditional Use Permit No. 196, Tentative Parcel Map No. 24656, Grading Permit
No. 1903, Sign Permit No. 842, Site Plan Review No. 7942, and Supplement to
Final Environmental Impact Report No. 27).
Commission.
Chairman Clark informed the Commission of the California Contract Cities
Association's '15th Annual Commissioner's Workshop' on April 4, 1998 in
Cerritos, and reported on his attendance at the Mayor's Monthly Breakfast.
Commissioner Alberio received a letter from the Mayor regarding the City's 25th
Anniversary and stated that the City was seeking volunteers to assist with
preparations for this special event.
In addition to Commissioner Alberio's comment, Chairman Clark informed the
Commission, Staff, and public that a dinner dance would be held on Friday,
October 9, 1998 at Los Verdes Country Club in commemoration of the City's 25th
Anniversary. Chairman Clark stated that there was an article in the Palos Verdes
Peninsula News regarding Mayor Pro Tem Hollingsworth, the designer of the City
logo, and his new design of a pin for the City's 25th Anniversary.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of February 24, 1998
Chairman Clark requested that on page 4, paragraph 8, line 1 be modified to read as,
' set the standard '
Vice Chairman Cartwright requested that on page 10, paragraph 5, line 1 to insert the
Vice Chairman's last name and read as, 'Vice Chairman Cartwright '
2. Minutes of March 10. 1998
Commissioner Slayden requested that on page 4, paragraph 1, line 1 to add the
project description (applicant name and address) and read as, ' Mr John Resich,
Green Hills Memorial Park, 27501 South Western Avenue'
Vice Chairman Cartwright requested that on page 13, paragraph 2, line 8 be modified
to read as, ' $100,000 00 dollars and '
Commissioner Slayden moved to approve the Minutes of February 24, 1998, (7-0)
and March 10, 1998, (6-0-1) as amended. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall with Chairman Clark abstaining since he was not
present at the March 10, 1998 meeting.
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CONTINUED BUSINESS
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. Height Variation No. 827 - Appeal and Grading Permit No. 1887: Jane
Botello, 7400 Alicia Place; Avery Knapp, 7435 Alida Place; Jimmy
Naumovski, 7420 Alida Place; and, Ken Nishide, 7440 Alida Place
rappellants] - Leslie and Magda Kispal. 7455 Alida Place [applicant].
Associate Planner Fox presented the Staff Report and stated that the applicant
submitted an application for a Height Variation and a Grading Permit requesting
construction of a new 7,333 square -foot 2 -story single-family residence on a vacant lot
at the southeast corner of Alida Place and Palos Verdes Drive West. The application
were deemed complete in December 1998. Based on the 'Old' Development Code, the
Height Variation component of this project required Staff level decision, and the
Grading Permit required Planning Commission consideration The projects were
presented to the Commission together based on an appeal of the Staff level approval of
the Height Variation
Mr. Fox stated that the application was reviewed and conditionally approved by the
Acting Director on February 9, 1998, and was appealed on February 23, 1998 by four
of the neighbors at Alida Place during the 15 -day appeal period (February 11-26,
1998)
In conclusion Associate Planner Fox stated that based on the analysis presented at
that evening's meeting and information in the previous Staff Report Staff believed that
the applicable findings could be made to approve the requested grading under Grading
Permit No. 1887. Staff therefore recommended denying the appellants' request and
upholding the Director's approval of Height Variation No. 827 and approving Grading
Permit No. 1887 for the proposed project, subject to conditions
Vice Chairman Cartwright observed that In July 1996 the application was submitted, in
September 1996 the paperwork was approved, and the silouhette was erected in
October 1996, but collapsed shortly after Mr Cartwright observed that the silouhette
was reconstructed thirteen months later (December 1998) and inquired why there was
a lapse in between that time period
Associate Planner Fox replied that the applicant had submitted Height Variation
applications for two lots on Alida Place in July 1996 and intended to process the
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applications concurrently, but for the reasons of their own decided to split the
applications After the silouhette collapsed on the subject lot, the applicant proceeded
with the application for the property at 7460 Alida Place Upon completion of the
process for 7460 Alida Place, the applicant started working on the current application,
and decided to re -erect the silouhette
Commissioner Alberio inquired if Staff was aware of neighborhood consultation
between the neighbors and the applicant.
Associate Planner Fox replied that the applicant submitted the necessary number of
signatures to meet the early neighbor consultation process
Commissioner Alberio moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Paris and passed.
Theodore Shield. (appellant's attorney) 1 World Trade Center, Long Beach, CA stated
that his client requested a continuance of this item since he was out of the country and
that he did not receive a Staff Report for review and analysis to comment on this item
Chairman Clark asked Mr Shield if any of the other clients were present to give
testimony
Mr Shield replied that the remaining appellants were not present because he told them
that he would request a continuance of this item to April 14, 1998 due to the fact that
the Staff Report arrived late and that he felt there was not ample time for him and his
client to review this information for commenting at the Commission meeting that
evening
Mr. Russ Barto. (applicant's architect) 3 Malaga Cove Plaza, Palos Verdes Estates,
stated that there was a conflict in his schedule and that he would not be available if this
item were continued on April 14, 1998
Mrs. Magda Kispal* (applicant) 30153 Cartier Drive stated that she was a resident of
the City for approximately twenty years and requested that the Commission proceed
with the hearing that evening since she felt that the proposed project had taken a long
period of time and since she had scheduled surgery that would not allow for her
presence at the April 14, 1998 meeting
Due to the preference of the Commission that all parties be present for the hearing on
this item, Staff recommended that the Commission continue the Public Hearing of this
item to the May 12, 1998 meeting
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Chairman Clark asked for Commission discussion on this item
Vice Chairman Cartwright had no objections to a continuance however, he stated that
he would like to see both parties present at the next scheduled meeting for this item
Vice Chairman Cartwright also explained the schedule for the release of Staff Reports
clarifying that the appellants received the Staff Report soon after its release
Commissioner Vannorsdall stated his belief that since this item was scheduled to be
considered at this meeting, testimony should be taken, and Commission decision
should proceed Mr Vannorsdall felt that the item should be continued to a meeting
that both parties could attend for final decision.
Commissioner Lyon questioned why the unavailability of the Staff Report precluded the
presentation of facts and testimony
Chairman Clark stated his hesitancy to discuss the proposed project that evening since
none of the appellants were present to give testimony
Commissioner Paris stated his preference that the Commission consider the item at a
later date
Commissioner Alberio moved to continue the Public Hearing to May 12, 1998 and
stressed that both parties be present at that meeting. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner Slayden and passed by a roll -call vote, (6-1) with Commissioner
Vannorsdall dissenting.
Acting Director/Secretary Rojas intervened and stated that a request to speak was
submitted for this item after the first speaker gave his testimony
Chairman Clark replied that the Commission would be glad to hear this speaker if it
pertains to the continuance date of this item.
Mr. Richard Wright} 1818 South Elena Suite'E', Redondo Beach, CA stated that he
preferred relinquishing his time to allow Mrs Kispal to speak.
With Commission permission, Mrs Kispal informed the Commission that she met with
one of the appellants, Mr Naumovski who told her that he no longer wished to be a part
of this appeal
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RECESS AND RECONVENE
At 8.10 P.M. there was a brief recess until 8 20 P.M when the meeting reconvened.
4. Conditional Use Permit No. 195, Tentative Parcel Map No. 24655,
Grading Permit No. 1903, Sign Permit 842, Site Plan Review No. 7942,
and Supplement to Final Environmental Impact Report No. 27;
Marriott Senior Living Services, North and west of the intersection of
Crestridge Road and Crenshaw Boulevard.
Chairman Clark suggested that the process of for the Public Hearing of this item would
begin with a comprehensive Staff Report presentation, testimonies from the public, and
adjournent of the Public Hearing of this item to a special site visit at the proposed
location of the Marriott Senior Living Services with the applicant, interested members of
the public, and Staff He felt that it would be a meaningful visit of the project site and
also would help the Commission to conceptualize aspects of this major project and to
facilitate addressing concerns of the public From there, Chairman Clark stated that the
Public Hearing would reconvene at a regular meeting for further discussion and
possible decision
Chairman Clark asked a member of the public to approach the podium who raised his
hand to speak
Mr Anthony Segretto, 5677 Mistridge Drive extended an invitation to the Commisison,
Staff, and interested members of the public to his home to view the proposed site from
his property
Associate Planner Pfost presented the Staff Report and discussed a previously
approved project for the subject 33 97 acre site. The approvals expired in April 1995
and the applicant submitted a revised, scaledown project on 4 57 acres of the property
in September 1996. The proposed project includes a Tentative Parcel Map, Sign
Permit, Site Plan Review, and Environmental Assessment. The proposed construction
consists of a new 3 -story, 35 -foot high, 122 -unit assisted living facility with associated
services on an existing vacant site This includes 28,600 cubic yards of cut and 28,
660 cubic yards of fill, subdivision of the existing lot into two lots, a sign permit, and two
proposed satellite dish antennae The project was deemed complete in February 1997.
Mr Pfost concluded his presentation by saying that Staff felt the proposed project met
the findings that were necessary to approve the Tentative Parcel Map, Conditional Use
Permit, Grading Permit, Site Plan Review, and Sign Plan In addition, Staff felt that the
Final Supplement to FEIR No. 27 could also be approved Associate Planner Pfost
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stated that due to the complexity of this item Draft Resolutions were not included in the
Staff Report that evening, but that Staff would submit the Resolutions with the
Commission report for the next Planning Commission meeting on this item
Chairman Clark asked for preliminary Commission questions for Staff
Commissioner Alberto asked if the larger portion of the lot would remain with the same
zoning when the subdivision is split and Associate Planner replied that both parcels
would remain as currently zoned
Commissioner Slayden asked about the depth of the proposed cut and Associate
Planner Pfost replied that the cut is more than five feet Commissioner Slayden asked
if the overall height of the building was below the sixteen foot height limit, and Mr Pfost
responded that it was.
Commissioner Paris asked why a trails plan is not established at this time and
Associate Planner Pfost replied that the development of the subdivision would dictate
where a trial would be best located, and that given the smaller scope of this project,
Staff believed it to be appropriate to address this issue with the remainder parcel.
Vice Chairman Cartwright could not recall from reviewing the Staff Report if the
Eucalyptus trees and all foliage above sixteen feet would be removed. Associate
Planner Pfost replied that part of the development of this project would include removal
of the trees
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked as part of the conditions to the proposed project the
applicant would have to maintain the tree level at the ridgeline of the proposed project.
Associate Planner replied that this was one of the mitigation measures that was
established through review of the supplement Environmental Impact Report, and that
the project would be conditioned accordingly
Commissioner Vannorsdall moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Alberio and passed.
Mr Wayne Sant} (applicant) 3130 S Harbor Boulevard, Santa Ana, CA, stated that his
firm currently has thirty Assisted Living Facilities similar to that proposed, each with the
trade name of 'Brighton Gardens' Mr Sant stated that the property is owned by Host
Marriott and that Marriott Senior Living Services has contracted to purchase 4 5 acres
of the property. Marriott Senior Living Services, the applicant, is a separate business
entity from Host Marriott, the property owner The remainder of the 33 97 acre site is
under contract with the Palos Verdes Land LLC a separate entity not affiliated with Host
Marriott or Senior Living Services Prior to the property being acquired by Host Marriott
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the property was owned by the Marriott Corporation, which split in 1992, and prior to
that the site was owned by the Hon Company After receiving all the approvals for the
now expired project in 1989 the action was challenged
Mr Sant explained that Brighton Gardens (Assisted Living Facility) will meet the needs
of seniors who are more frail and in needing of additional assistance with various
activities of daily living. Since most seniors residing at this facility do not drive there
would be very minimum traffic impact resulting from the proposed use Mr Sant stated
that the architectural design of the structure and landscaping would incorporate the
best elements for the surrounding community He stated that when he applies for
building permits he will be required to pay significant fees to the City, School District,
and the utility providers Mr Sant displayed a photo board of the proposed project for
the Commission's viewing and summarized significant points that were presented in the
Staff Report.
Mr Sant stresses that the building height proposed was carefully considered by taking
into account the grading The project was designed to balance the grading on-site and
to impact views as little as possible Mr Sant presented a sectional diagram of the site
to demonstrate the grading proposed in relation to the existing topography of the site
Mr Sant stated his concurrence with the staff parking analysis, and felt that based on
experience with similar facilities, problems should not occur Mr Sant further stated his
willingness to shuttle in employees on very high traffic days (such as Mother's Day) to
maximize parking available for guests at the facility
Commissioner Paris questioned the applicants rationale for purchasing only a 4 57
acre site, when more property would have allowed greater flexibility in site design Mr
Sant responded that the 4 57 acre site is larger than the average size for similar
facilities in other areas, and that Marriott Senior Living Services typically only buys
what it needs Furthermore, Mr Sant stated that the remainder of the area was under
contract for sale to a different entity
Mr. James Forsythe} 31 Cypress Way, Rolling Hills Estates, CA, felt that the trail path
on the subject site was a community asset and thanked Associate Planner Pfost for his
thorough and thoughtful expidicious response to his comment letter
Mr. Ray Mathys, 5238 Whitecliff Drive, favored the proposed project and felt that this
would be a major asset to the community
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Mr. Greg Barth, 5537 Seaside Heights Drive opposed the project and requested that a
planting pallet or preliminary plant list be included in the plans Mr Barth's concerns
included that palm trees would create a visual block, traffic noise would Increase, and
that the parking spaces were Inadequate
Mr. Anthony Se, rq etto, 5677 Mistndge Drive, stated that he supported the project, but
felt that the applicant's proposed plans should conform to the City's code, the EIR
deficiencies should be corrected, and City risk should be mitigated. Mr. Segretto felt
that it was not necessary to truck soil through the streets and that exterior lighting and
foliage must not interfere with the view of the City lights Mr Segretto also discussed
the history of the lawsuit challenging the previously approved senior development, and
that the intent to stall the project was achieved
Lois Larue. 3136 Barkentine Road, felt that the Commission should not approve the
proposed project. She stated that the topography should be preserved as indicated in
the General Plan Therefore she strongly opposed the proposed project
Mrs. Luella Wike, 29172 Oceanridge Drive, was mainly concerned that the design of
the proposed structure would impact her view as well as other for her neighbors She
suggested that a six- month review of the parking area be include in the conditions for
the Conditional Use Permit, and stated her preference for EIR Alternative No. 1 which
would reduce the pad elevation and reduce impact to views She believed that view
preservation should supersede concerns about grading activities and concerns about
the exported materials. Mrs. Wike expressed further concerns including parking,
limitation on trails to pedestrian only (no horses), conditions regarding limits on
vegetation height, screening, storm drain issues, use of low intensity lighting, noise,
and signage that was too large
Mr. Edward Nakata, 5663 Mistridge Drive, was concerned with his view being impacted
and extended an invitation for the Commission to view the proposed project from his
property
After discussion of an appropriate time and day for a meeting at the Commission
agreed to meet on Sunday, April 5, 1998 at 3.00 P.M. at the subject property for a site
visit.
Commissioner Alberio moved to continue the Public Hearing of this item to an
Adjourned meeting at the project site on April 5, 1998 at 3:00 P.M. The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall and passed by consensus of the
Commission (7-0).
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NEW BUSINESS
None.
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Staff
5. Pre -agenda for the Planning Commission meeting of April 14, 1998.
Commission
The Commission requested that an item for discussion of Planning Commissioners
compensation be agendized for the April 14, 1998 meeting.
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, discussed the landslide in the City and the
Commissioner's recent approval of a new house on Tarapaca Road, and her sons
recent letters to the editors of local newspapers
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:05 P.M. Commissioner Paris moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by
Vice Chairman Cartwright. There being no objection, the meeting was duly
adjourned by Chairman Clark to March 28,1998,10:30 A.M. at the Hesse Park
Fireside Room.
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