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PC MINS 19970923CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 23, 1997 CALL TO ORDER Approved 11/25/97 The meeting was called to order at 7.05 P M by Chairman Vannorsdall at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29310 Hawthorne Boulevard FLAG SALUTE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Attorney Lynch. ROLL CALL Present All present Absent None. Also present were Director/Secretary Petru, City Attorney Lynch, Associate Planner Fox, Assistant Planner Ward, and Recording Secretary Atuatasi. APPROVAL OF AGENDA The Chairman suggested that the Commission move Agenda Item No. 7 (Grading Permit No. 1933) before Agenda Item No. 2 (Height Variation No. 750 - Revision 'C' and Variance No. 350 - Revision 'B'). With no objections from the Commission, it was so ordered by Chairman Vannorsdall, (7-0). COMMUNICATIONS Staff Director/Secretary Petru distributed a facsimile from Earl Gantz, an item of late correspondence from Bob Easton, and new elevation exhibits indicating variable roof pitches over the garage regarding Agenda Item No. 2 (Height Variation No. 750 - Revision 'C' and Variance No. 350 - Revision 'B' ). Ms. Petru also distributed the revised conditions of approval and a site plan regarding Agenda Item No. 5 (Conditional Use Permit No. 130 - Revision 'F' and Lot Line Adjustment No. 58). Commission Commissioner Ng reported on a seminar regarding 'Livable Communities' scheduled for October 9, 1997. Commissioner Alberto reported that he had received a letter from Mrs. Jane Botello regarding the Commisison's decision on Height Variation No. 828. Commissioner Clark reported that in the August 1997 issue of 'Worth' magazine it was reported that Rancho Palos Verdes was ranked in the top 100 wealthiest cities in the country. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. Minutes of August 12. 1997 Commissioner Ng stated that she was not present at the August 12, 1997 meeting. Chairman Vannorsdall requested that on page 4, under Continued Business, Agenda Item No 2, paragraph 2, line 3 be modified to read as, " meeting of July 8, 1997, the Commission requested that the applicant place Commissioner Clark requested that an insertion be made on page 11, under New Business, Agenda Item No 6, paragraph 5, line 5 between the word "issues" and "which" to read as, " and factual inaccuracies in content..." Commissioner Slayden moved to approve the Minutes as amended. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberto, and passed, (6-1) with Commissioner Ng abstaining, since she was not present at the August 12, 1997 meeting. At this time Agenda Item No. 7 was considered. NEW BUSINESS 7. Grading Permit No. 1933; Richard Schag, 30764 Tarapaca Road. Chairman Vannorsdall read aloud the requested action and Staff s recommendation for this item and asked Associate Planner Fox to explain the reason for the reconsideration of the proposed project Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 2 P-� Associate Planner Fox first stated that a few of the neighbors had requested a continuance of the subject property to give them ample time to conduct research and respond to the applicant's proposal Mr Fox also stated that Staff was still in the process of compiling additional information to address the concerns that were previously raised by the Commission and the Council. Therefore, Staff requested the continuance of reconsideration of Grading Permit No. 1933 to the Planning Commission meeting of October 28, 1997 Commissioner Clark asked what the Council's action was regarding the drainage issue. Director/Secretary Petru stated that the Council raised general concerns that the drainage issues were adequately addressed, as well as made reference to the correspondence received from Dr. Ehlig Ms Petru stated that Council directed Staff to further review these issues She also stated that Council did not go into depth of the proposed project since it intended to remand this item back to the Commission Chairman Vannorsdall asked if the Commission desired to discuss this item. The Commission had no further comments Chairman Vannorsdall moved to continue the reconsideration of Grading Permit No. 1933 to the meeting of October 28, 1997. With no objections from the Commission, it was so ordered by the Chairman, (7-0). At this time Agenda Item No 2 was considered CONTINUED BUSINESS 2 Height Variation No. 750 - Revision 'C' and Variance No. 250 - Revision W; Earl and Sharon Gantz, 3558 Bendigo Drive. Director/Secretary Petru stated that the proposed project was last considered at the August 26, 1997 meeting After public testimony was given, the Commission continued the public hearing to September 23, 1997 and directed Staff 1) request that the City Attorney attend the September 23, 1997 meeting to address concerns regarding the previous court decisions pertaining to the proposed project, 2) arrange a special public meeting to conduct an internal and external site visit of the subject property (this meeting was scheduled September 21, 1997, 2.00 p m. at 3558 Bendigo Drive), 3) mail the Staff Report with the floor area calculations and alternative elevation exhibits to all property owners on Bendigo Drive, and, 4) provide a list of changes that were made to the currently proposed project compared to the project presented to the Council earlier in the year Ms Petru briefly explained the changes to the currently proposed project Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 11997 Page 3 as well as the additional modifications recommended by Staff as indicated in the Staff Report She then explained the supplemental Staff Report that had been prepared based on cost estimates prepared by a construction expert to 1) eliminate the roof over the utility room, 2) lower the garage roof beam, and, 3) lower the roof over the second story to match the original plan She noted that the cost estimates did not include finishing costs to the interior, such as paint, light fixtures, carpet, etc. Director/Secretary Petru concluded presentation by saying that Staff recommended approval of the Height Variation for the additional existing square footage of the second story addition, and completion of the garage subject to conditions and approval of the Variance for the existing garage to encroach an additional 9" into the required 20 -foot front yard setback area for a minimum setback of 13 feet 6 inches. Chairman Vannorsdall asked if there were any speakers for this item Mr. Earl Gantz. (applicant) 3558 Bendigo Drive, stated that at the meeting of August 26, 1997, the Commission requested that he add dimensions to the height of the garage shown on the three alternative elevations Mr Gantz stated that his civil engineer refined the alternative elevations and that the new elevations were attached to the current Staff Report. He went on to discuss that he did not completely agree with the cost estimates that were included in the supplemental Staff Report. Mr. Gantz felt that the costs to make structural changes to the existing residence would be much higher Mr. Jesse Neg_rete. (applicant's civil engineer) 4231 W. 181 st Street, Torrance, CA confirmed and reiterated Mr. Gantz's comments regarding the redesigning of the project Mr Negrete also stated that the making structural changes to the existing residence would be costly Mr. James Gordon 3538 Bendigo Drive, made a visual presentation together with Mr Jeff VanWagner who resided at 3559 Bendigo Drive. Mr. Gordon displayed visual aides (i e., enlarged copies of the deposition transcripts and model structures) for his presentation to show the Commission and the public the approval process and beginning and ending stages of construction for the proposed project Mr Gordon stated that he had not seen the latest letter from Mr Gantz provided to the Commission and Staff and believed that the information contained in this letter was incorrect Mr Gordon requested that the Commission continue the public hearing of this item since he and the other concerned neighbors were not able to review this new information, as well as the supplemental Staff Report Commissioner Clark asked City Attorney Lynch if she wished to comment on Mr Gordon's presentation as to when the utility room was created or the testimony given by Mr. Gordon Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 4 City Attorney Lynch replied that Mr Gordon had correctly copied a portion of the deposition transcript. Ms Lynch could not recall as to when the FAU showed up on the building plans, but stated that it was not on the original plans in 1992. Director/Secretary Petru stated that the FAU showed up on the building plans in 1993 and that she would be glad to the present them to the Commission for their review Commissioner Clark asked if there was an inconsistency with the contractor's testimony in the deposition. City Attorney Lynch replied that the contractor testified that he was aware that the construction was preceding without approved plans and that the construction did not match the original approval At this time Director/Secretary Petru presented plans that were stamped for the Height Variation in April 1993 Ms Petru presented the second -floor plans which did not show a utility room and closet space However, on the elevation on the plans, it showed a full two-story height garage with the ridge beam leading directly to the back to the second -story ridge over the main portion of the house Ms Petru stated that the plans for the variance and the grading permit (garage) were stamped in June 1993 also had the same floor plans showing no utility room or the additional closet space When the applicant submitted revised plans in September 1993 for the height variation, the second floor plans revealed the additions, as well the plans that were stamped in April 1994 following a Council meeting where direction was given to revise the plans Mr. Bob Easton, 3566 Bendigo Drive, opposed the proposed project and stated that it was the Commission's responsibility to the protect the neighborhood At this time Mr Gantz approached the podium for rebuttal Mr. Gantz stated that he had followed the City's Building Code, and had been very patient for the past five years Mr Gantz stated that the mechanical room over the garage was always there and that it was an oversight by his contractor, himself, and Staff when the plans for construction of the proposed project were submitted to the City He stated that a permit was issued by the City for the construction of the garage on June 12, 1993 and that the foundation was inspected on June 18, 1993 Commissioner Alberio asked if the house was secured for the weather Mr Gantz replied that there were certain areas in the house that were not secured such as, the master bedroom, another bedroom, and the garage Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 5 Commissioner Cartwright asked Mr Gantz if the cost estimates he provided for the proposed project were current or made in 1993 Mr Gantz replied that the estimates were from 1993 Commissioner Clark asked Mr Gantz if there were any changes to the project that were the result of consultations with the neighborhood. Mr. Gantz replied that one neighbor had suggested Alternative No. 3 for the roof pitch to be extended over the living room and entry to disguise wall of the second story bedroom Commissioner Clark asked what the time frame was for completion of the proposed protect, if it was approved by the Commission Mr Gantz replied that he could complete the project in approximately 7-8 weeks, permitting weather conditions Commissioner Ng asked Mr Gantz would if he objected to lowering the roof pitch of the garage to 6.12 Mr. Gantz replied that the 6 12 roof pitch was agreeable with him At this time Mr Gordon was recalled to the podium for comments Commissioner Alberio asked Mr. Gordon if the Commission were to continue the public hearing in order for the Commission to review the new information provided that evening by Mr Gantz, could the neighbors possibly come to an understanding with Mr. Gantz Mr Gordon replied that they would be willing to have discussion with Mr Gantz Commissioner Alberio moved to keep the Public Hearing opened and to continue this item to a date certain. The motion failed due to a lack of a second Before a motion was made by the Commisison to close the Public Hearing, two members of the audience requested to speak Chairman Vannorsdall asked the speakers to approach the podium. Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 6 Mr. Bob Easton, 3566 Bendigo Drive, stated that he spoke with Mr Gantz regarding the redesign of the facade, as well as lowering the garage roof to match the pitch of the main house Mr. Elliott Apstein, 3525 Bendigo Drive, requested that the Commisison make a determination on the proposed project that evening, due to the fact that the process would not end here since the Commission's decision was appealable to City Council Commissioner Clark moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng, and with no objections, Chairman Vannorsdall declared the Public Hearing closed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked the Commission if they desired to discuss this item. Commissioner Alberio stated that his position was to see Mr Gantz compromise with the neighbors and the Planning Commission should continue this item in hopes that by the next meeting both parties would come to an agreement. Vice Chairman Whiteneck basically agreed with Staffs recommendation and felt that it was important to get this project moving forward again. Commissioner Clark observed the historical and ill will towards the proposed project and believed that it was blocking the abilities of the parties at both ends to come to a compromise Mr Clark did not agree that this item should be continued to another meeting for a resolution. He stated that the site visit was useful and saw that the neighborhood had a mixture of architectural style Mr Clark felt that the proposed project was reasonable and supported Staff's recommendation. Commissioner Cartwright was disappointed with the lack of neighborhood involvement at the site visit, but felt that it was not necessary to continue this item to another meeting Mr Cartwright believed that significant changes had been made to the project to mitigate the concerns of the Commission and the neighbors and, therefore, supported Staffs recommendation. Commissioner Ng stated that the Commisison should go forward with the proposed project since the original design was not buildable She stated that the applicant had worked hard with Staff on the present current design and felt that the solution was compatible with the neighborhood Commissioner Ng supported the Staffs recommendation except painting the storage area to match the roof She suggested to leave the facia board and treat the stucco as rest of the house and that the roof pitch over the garage be lowered than 6,12 Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 7 Commissioner Slayden stated that he also accepted Staff s recommendation Chairman Vannorsdall stated that the revised design of the proposed project brought the property into compatibility with the neighborhood and, therefore, supported Staffs recommendation Commissioner Ng moved to accept Staffs recommendation to adopt P.C. Resolution No. 97-47 approving Height Variation No. 750 - Revision 'C' with the exception of painting the storage area and leaving the facia board and treating the stucco as the rest of the house and lowering the roof pitch to 6:12 and adopt P.C. Resolution No. 97-48 approving Variance No. 350 - Revision `B'. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright. Commissioner Ng then asked Staff about the pitch of the roof over the garage Director/Secretary Petru replied that Staff recommended the 8 12 pitch because it matched the originally approved project. Commissioner Clark felt that the steeper pitch allowed the garage to provide greater screening of the utility room behind it and was, therefore, in favor of the steeper pitch. Commissioner Ng amended her motion to increase the roof pitch of the garage to 8:12 as, opposed the 6:12 pitch. Commissioner Albeno stated that he was not opposed to the project, but felt that the neighbor's should have been given more time to work with the applicant on a compromise. A roll call vote was taken and the motion was passed (6-1) with Commissioner Albeno dissenting. Commissioner Alberio stated that he was not opposed to the project, but felt that the neighbor's should have been given more time to work with the applicant on a compromise Chairman Vannorsdall noted the 15 -day appeal period. RECESS AND RECONVENE At 8 57 P M there was a brief recess until the meeting reconvened at 9 14 P.M Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1897 Page 8 0 PUBLIC HEARINGS 3. Height Variation No 843; David DeLanais, 28973 Palos Verdes Drive East. Chairman Vannorsdall read aloud the applicant's request and the Staffs recommendation for the proposed project Commissioner Slayden moved to waive the reading of the Staff Report. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberio and passed, (7-0). Assistant Planner Ward informed the Commission that a foliage analysis was also an aspect of the proposed project He explained that Staff had added specific conditions to the project to trim forage on the property to restore the neighbor's views. Commissioner Cartwright moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Vice Chairman Whiteneck and passed, (7-0). Chairman Vannorsdall asked if there were any speakers for this item. Mr David DeLanais. (applicant) 28973 Palos Verdes Drive East, stated that he had no objections to Staffs recommendation, except that he did not want to trim the foliage to such an extent as to expose his property to Palos Verdes Drive East, as well as to his adjacent neighbor He requested that he be allowed to keep the Oleanders at a higher height Mr. Larry Rubin} 28969 Palos Verdes Drive East, requested that the Commission carefully review the situation regarding the view and the foliage analysis Commissioner Alberto moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng, and with no objections, Chairman Vannorsdall declared the Public Hearing closed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked the Commissioners if they desired to discuss this item Commissioner Slayden stated that he was satisfied with Staffs recommendation Commissioner Ng supported Staffs recommendation and felt that the applicant and Staff could work out any details regarding how to trim the trees and shrubs Commissioner Cartwright echoed Commissioner Ng's comments and also supported Staffs recommendation Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 9 9 0 Commissioner Clark agreed with the applicant's proposal in regards to trimming the height of the Oleanders Mr. Clark too, supported Staffs recommendation Vice Chairman Whiteneck supported Staff's recommendation, with the addition of allowing the Oleander to be maintained at a maximum height of 8 feet, as measured from the ground level up Chairman Vannorsdall concurred with his fellow Commissioners and supported Staffs recommendation Vice Chairman Whiteneck moved to accept Staffs recommendation to approve Height Variation No. 843 with revised conditions to allow the Oleanders to be maintained at a maximum height of 8 feet as measured from the adjacent grade. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Slayden and passed (7-0) by a unanimous roll call vote. Chairman Vannorsdall noted the 15 -day appeal period 4 Variance No. 427• James LaBarba/Lunada Pointe Homeowners Association, Tract No. 40640, Common Open Space Lot No. 26. Chairman Vannorsdall read aloud the applicant's request and Staffs recommendation Vice Chairman Whiteneck moved to waive the reading of the Staff Report. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberto and passed, (7.0) by acclamation. Commissioner Clark moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Vice Chairman Whiteneck and passed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked if there were any speakers for this item Mr George Shaw, (applicant's architect) 23727 Hawthorne Boulevard, Torrance, CA stated that the four findings were made for the variance as indicated in the Staff Report Mr. Shaw commended Staff for the excellent fob done in the Staff Report Commissioner Alberto moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Commission Ng, and with no objections, Chairman Vannorsdall declared the Public Hearing closed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked the Commission if they desired to discuss this item Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 10 Commissioner Slayden had no comments. Commissioner Ng did not support Staff s recommendation. She felt that the proposed gates would create an impairment of the ocean view the public who would be driving on Palos Verdes Drive West. Commissioner Ng felt that both gates should be 9 feet in height Commissioner Cartwright had no concern with the height of the proposed gates and would go along with the consensus of the Commission. Commissioner Clark stated that the subject site was one of the signature properties in the City He believed that the architectural style of the home was of such a scale that the size of the requested gates was in proportion with the rest of the improvements and therefore, supported Staffs recommendation. Vice Chairman Whiteneck was not concerned with the fence height, and also supported Staffs recommendation Commissioner Albeno also agreed with the Staff recommendation Chairman Vannorsdall moved to accept the Staffs recommendation to approve Variance No. 427. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and passed (6-1) by a roll call vote, with Commissioner Ng dissenting. Chairman Vannorsdall noted the 15 -day appeal period. 5. Conditional Use Permit No. 130 - Revision 7 and Lot Line Adjustment No. 58; Vintage Communities, Tract No. 45667 Peninsula Pointe . Vice Chairman Whiteneck recused himself from discussion of this item since he lived within close proximity of the subject site Associate Planner Fox stated that modifications were made to the applicant's request based on recent conversations with the applicant. Mr Fox stated that the original request indicated 'modifications for the rear -yard fencing on Lots 18 and 29 through 39' The current changes proposed by the applicant now included modifications for the rear -yard fencing on Lots 18, 29 and 39 only'. Mr. Fox also stated that the reduction of the front -yard setback had changed from 2' to 2'-6" on Lots 7 and 8, but that the rest of the applicant's request remained the same (a 2-1/2' adjustment of the side lot line between Lots 7 and 8 in Tract No 45667) Associate Planner Fox concluded by saying that Staff recommended approval of the conditional use permit for the fencing Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 11 modifications on Lots 18, 29, and 39, denial of the front yard setback reduction for Lots 7 & 8; and, approval of lot line adjustment for the 2-1/2 foot westerly adjustment of the side property line between Lots 7 & 8 Mr Fox stated that there were no correspondence received regarding the proposed project. Commissioner Slayden moved to open the Public Hearing, seconded by Commissioner Ng and passed, (7-0) by acclamation. Chairman Vannorsdall asked if there were any speakers for this item. Ms. Kelly Buffa} 600 Anton Boulevard, Costa Mesa, represented Vintage Communities and commended Staff for a presentation thoroughly done Ms Buffa briefly reiterated the information which was presented by Mr Fox and requested that the Commission approve the proposed project. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, felt that the applicant had been falsely advertising the lots in this tract as having views of Portuguese Point, which was her view She was also concerned about the preservation of the coastal sage scrub habitat area since it was abutting the proposed fencing rear -yard locations of Lots 18, 29, and 39 Commissioner Ng moved to close the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberto, and with no objections, Chairman Vannorsdall declared the Public Hearing closed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked the Commission if they desired to discuss this item. Commissioner Ng stated that she agreed with the denial of the reduction of the front yard setback and suggested that the applicant could make revisions for the plans to make the homes fit on these lots. Commissioner Ng supported Staffs recommendation. Commissioner Cartwright believed that if the applicant's request for a reduced front yard setback was granted it would benefit the homeowners since they would be gaining more useable space in the rear yard. Commissioner Slayden echoed Commissioner Cartwright's comments Commissioner Clark stated that he had no comments regarding the proposed project. Commissioner Alberio concurred with the recommendations of Staff Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 12 Commissioner Clark moved to accept Staffs amended recommendation to approve Conditional Use Permit No.130 - Revision 7 far fencing modifications on Lots 18, 29, and 39, but deny the setback reduction for Lots 7 and 8; and approve Lot Line Adjustment No. 58. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng and passed (4-2-1) with Commissioners Cartwright and Slayden dissenting and Vice Chairman Whiteneck abstaining. Chairman Vannorsdall noted the 15 -day appeal period RECESS AND RECONVENE At 10.55 P.M. there was a second brief recess until 11 00 P M when the meeting reconvened. 6. Site Plan Review No. 8056 and Grading Permit No. 1957; Hugh and Doris Edey. 4835 Falcon Rock Place. Assistant Planner Ward briefly presented the Staff Report and stated that the applicant submitted a site plan review application to the City for proposed retaining walls near the corner of Blackhorse Road and Diamond Head Lane and an 84" lamp post near the corner of Diamond Head Lane and Falcon Rock Place to exceed the 30" height limit inside the intersection triangle Mr Ward also mentioned that the site plan review application included 1,021 square feet of new building footprint. In addition to this request, the applicant also submitted a grading permit application for three downslope retaining walls to be constructed on a slope exceeding 35% in steepness to terrace the existing 69% slope at the corner of Blackhorse Road and Diamond Head Lane Assistant Planner Ward stated that Staff determined that the proposed structures within the intersection visibility triangle would not create an impact on traffic visibility, the building footprint, roof modifications, and skylights for the residence complied with the development code, and that the terraced retaining walls and new landscaping complied with the City's criteria to prevent erosion of the slope Therefore, Staff recommended approval of Site Plan Review No. 8056 and Grading Permit No 1956, subject to conditions Commissioner Ng moved to open the Public Hearing. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberto and passed, (7-0) by acclamation. Chairman Vannorsdall asked if there were any speakers for this item Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 13 Ms. Olympia Greer. (applicant's architect) 267 Palos Verdes Drive West, Palos Verdes Estates, requested that the Commisison grant the request since she complied with the City's code and felt that the proposed project would be an enhancement to the community. Ms. Doris Edey. (landowner) 9340 Brock Avenue, Downey, stated that this was her first Planning Commission meeting she attended and also the first remodel done on the subject site Ms Edey stated that she was there to answer any questions that the Commission might have Vice Chairman Whiteneck moved to close the Public Hearing, seconded by Commissioner Ng. With no objections, Chairman Vannorsdall declared the Public Hearing closed. Chairman Vannorsdall asked the Commission if they desired to discuss this item Commissioner Slayden supported Staffs recommendation and felt that the proposed landscaping would make the family dwelling much more attractive Commissioner Ng felt that the proposed project would improve the existing slope lot and therefore agreed with Staffs recommendation Commissioner Cartwright believed that the renovation and upgrade would be well received by the neighborhood and that the landscaping would enhance the property. Mr. Cartwright therefore agreed with Staffs recommendation Commissioner Clark had no comments Commissioner Alberio commended the architect for a job well done, particularly in dealing with the steep slopes at the intersection. He too agreed with Staffs recommendation Vice Chairman Whiteneck also felt that the proposed project would improve and enhance the community and therefore, supported Staffs recommendation. Chairman Vannorsdall had no comments Commissioner Slayden moved to accept Staffs recommendation for approval of Site Plan Review No. 8056, and Grading Permit No. 1957 subject to conditions. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and passed, (7-0) by a unanimous roll -call vote. Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 14 ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS Staff: 8. Pre -agenda for the Planning Commission Meeting of October 28. 1997 Commission: The Commission requested that the General Plan Ad Hoc Committee be agendized for the October 28, 1997 Agenda for discussion. COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items): Lois Larue. 3136 Barkentine Road, discussed a fissure that had opened up at the top of the Portuguese Bend Landslide and then discussed the general characteristics of landslides ADJOURNMENT At 11:29 P.M. Commissioner Clark moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Vice Chairman Whiteneck. There being no objection, the meeting was duly adjourned by the Chairman. N1CaRCNX"F'L/VNINfY.'MINMAINil9 Planning Commission Minutes September 23,1997 Page 15