PC MINS 19970128CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 28, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
APPROVED
03/25/97
The meeting was called to order at 7;07 P M by Chairman Clark at the Hesse Park
Community Building, 29310 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr Robert Katherman
ROLL CALL
Present. Commissioners Alberio, Cartwright, Ng, Whiteneck, Vice
Chairman Vannorsdall, and Chairman Clark
Absent NONE
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall moved for the approval of the agenda as written. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng, and there being no objection, it was
so ordered by Chairman Clark, (6-4).
COMMUNICATIONS
Staff
Director/Secretary Petru distributed one letter regarding Agenda Item No 3
(Conditional Use Permit No. 194).
Commission
Commissioner Ng noted that she had won the cover photo contest for the Palos Verdes
Directory.
Chairman Clark reported on his attendance at the Mayor's Breakfast.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of November 26 1996
Commissioner Cartwright requested that page 2, paragraph 6, line 5 be modified to
read as, ".. In its determination, the "
Commissioner Ng requested that page 3, paragraph 4, line 3 be modified to read as,
"... subjected to the Sunset Provision.".
Commissioner Cartwright requested that page 3, paragraph 9, line 2 be modified to
read as, "...the word "manned" should be..."
Commissioner Ng requested that page 5, paragraph 7, line 1 be modified to read as,
"
.a guardrail should be installed.." and line 2 to read as," since the top of the
retaining wall was 7 feet higher than the adjacent ground " She requested that page
8, paragraph 13, line 3 be modified to read as, "..adjacent neighbors did not complain
about the accessory structure. It would create..." and page 12, paragraph 8, be
modified to read as, "Commissioner Ng stated that staff recommended project approval
so that the applicant's home would be compatible with the surrounding homes
Commissioner Ng then noted that the applicant's property was in the RS -1 Zone with
the minimum required lot size of 1 acre (43,560 square feet) and stated that the
applicants property was only 1/3 (13,771 square feet) of the required 1 acre, and
therefore felt that the proposed project was not in size comparison to the surrounding
homes located in 1 acre lots ".
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve the Minutes of November 26, 1996 as
amended, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck and passed, (6-0).
2 Minutes of December 10 1996
Commissioner Ng requested that page 8, paragraph 4, line 1 be modified to read as,
"...that she had no objections about...". She also requested after paragraph 4 that the
following paragraph be inserted to read as, "Commissioner Ng was also concerned that
if the Commission approved the reduced parking space requirement, would this grant
the same right to future project proposals and if the Commission would require only
20% of the required parking when Marriott constructs the care facility on the adjacent
lot".
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Chairman Clark noted that his remark had been omitted on page 8 after paragraph 4
and requested that the following line be inserted: "Chairman Clark responded that each
case would be considered individually on its own merit "
Commissioner Ng requested that page 11, paragraph 6, line 1 be modified to read as,
"...the proposed addition provided only 20% "
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall requested that page 15, paragraph 1, line 1 be modified to
read as, "Vice Chairman Vannorsdall..." and line 2 be modified to read as, " but stated
that he had visited the site with Assistant Planner Fox at a later date."
Commissioner Ng requested that page 16, paragraph 4, line 1 be modified to read as,
" that she thought that having a "
Commissioner Cartwright stated that part of his remark was omitted on page 17,
paragraph 3 and requested that the following be included, "The interior streets in the
Island View are public Commissioner Cartwright was concerned that putting a gate at
one end and a manned booth at the other would create de facto private streets He felt
that this was an inappropriate use of public funds.".
Commissioner Cartwright moved to approve the Minutes of December 10, 1996,
as amended, seconded by Vice Chairman Vannorsdall and passed, (6-0).
CONTINUED BUSINESS NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS
3 Conditional Use Permit No. 194, and Coastal Permit No. 138; Pacific
Bell Mobile Service. 6412 Palos Verdes Drive South (Saint Peter's by
the Sea Church
Commissioner Whiteneck abstained from consideration of this item since he resided
within close proximity of the subject property and exited the dais.
Associate Planner Pfost presented the Staff Report and stated that the applicant
requested to construct an unmanned personal communications facility at St. Peter's by
the Sea Church with two cross polar antennae mounted on top of the existing church
roof ridge and two equipment boxes mounted on the ground adjacent to the church
building Associate Planner Pfost stated that Staff recommended denial for the
proposed project since the antennae would create a negative visual and aesthetic
impact, which had not been adequately mitigated by the applicant
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Chairman Clark asked the Commission for a motion to open the Public Hearing
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall moved to open the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Alberio. There being no objection, it was so ordered by Chairman
Clark, (5-0-1).
At this time Chairman Clark asked if there were any speakers for this item
Mr. Jerome Buckmelter, 23534 Aetna Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 represented
Pacific Bell Mobile Services. Mr. Buckmelter stated that the proposed (PCS) facility at
St Peter's by the Sea Church would cover areas from Portuguese Bend on the south
through Point Vicente Park on the north. He then presented a plan to the Commission
which indicated the location of the antennae and the two equipment boxes
Mr. Henry Tuttle 32614 Coastsite Drive, stated that he spoke with several people in his
neighborhood regarding the proposed project. He stated that the responses he
received favored the proposal since there would be no aesthetic impacts caused by the
two small antennae Mr Tuttle supported the proposal and felt that it would be an
improvement for the community
Mr W D. Woodruff. 29208 Firthridge, president of the St Peters by the Sea Church
mentioned that a few of the church members were concerned with the concept of the
proposed project, but concluded by stating that the congregation's final determination
was positive.
Mr. Paul Christensen, 6317 Tarragon, president of the Abalone Cove Homeowners
Association, stated that 60% of the homeowners were opposed to the proposed project
since it would create view obstructions for the surrounding neighborhood Mr.
Christensen mentioned that the homeowners would like to preserve the aesthetic
beauty of their community and did not want to see the proposed project within their line
of sight
Ms. Sharon Cowley. 6331 Tarragon, an Abalone Cove Homeowner, stated that she too
was not supportive of the proposed project for the same reason as mentioned by Mr
Christensen
Mr William Tolliffe 6347 Tarragon, also an Abalone Homeowner, concurred with the
last two speakers and felt that the proposed project was in violation with the City's
Building Code requirements
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, stated that she was very much opposed to the
proposed project and requested that the Commission deny the application
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Chairman Clark asked if there were any other speakers for this item
Recording Secretary Atuatasi replied that there were none
Chairman Clark asked the Commission for a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Albeno moved to close the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Ng. There being no objection, Chairman Clark declared the Public
Hearing closed, (5-0-1)
Chairman Clark stated that, based on the testimonies of the residents who would be
most impacted by the project, he would like to make a proposal
Chairman Clark moved to continue the Public Hearing and requested Staff to
work with the applicant to explore other alternatives and that the applicant
submit a master plan identifying all of the locations on the peninsula where the
applicant intended to place a new PCS facility. The motion was seconded by
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall.
Chairman Clark asked the Commission if there were any further comments regarding
this item
Commissioner Cartwright stated that he concurred with Chairman Clark's request for a
master plan.
Commissioner Ng also concurred that the Commission should consider the locations of
all the antennas that might be installed in the City. She also wanted to consider
alternative placement of the proposed antennae on the subject property and hear the
responses to any alternative proposals from the residents in the surrounding area
Director/Secretary Petru noted that the Public Hearing would have to be re -opened in
order to continue this item
Chairman Clark asked what date certain would be proposed by Staff
Director/Secretary Petru proposed the meeting date of February 25, 1997.
The motion was amended to re -open the Public Hearing and continue it to
February 25, 1997 and passed by a unanimous roll -call vote, (5-0-1), with
Commissioner Whiteneck abstaining.
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RECESS AND RECONVENE
At 9:13 P M there was a brief recess until 9.29 P.M. when the meeting reconvened.
NEW BUSINESS
At this time Commissioner Whiteneck returned to the dais.
4 Ocean Trails Project Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan
(SWPPP), Zuckerman Building Company and Palos Verdes Land
Holdings Company, Subregion 7 & 8 (a 269.9 acre site located south
of Palos Verdes Drive South, between the Portuguese Bend Club on
the west and Los Angeles Shoreline Park on the east.)
Director/Secretary Petru presented the Staff Report and stated that the applicant
requested approval of the Storm Water Pollution Plan, also referred to as the Final Run
Off Management and Water Quality Control Plan, for the approved Ocean Trails golf
course and single family residential development Ms Petru indicated that the draft
plan had been reviewed and approved by the Director of Public Works, with only a few
minor changes She concluded her presentation with Staff's Recommendation to
approve the Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan for the project.
Chairman Clark asked if there were any speakers for this item
Mr. Ken Zuckerman 2 EI Portal, Palos Verdes, Estates, CA, 90274, represented the
Ocean Trails project and stated that this was the last action on the project which would
be reviewed by the Planning Commission prior to the issuance of a grading permit.
However, he also stated that there was still a list of staff issues to be addressed Mr
Zuckerman concluded by stating that he was present that evening to answer any
questions from the Commission
Mr. Ken Newville. 980 Via Rincon, project engineer, in response to a question from the
Commission stated that the grading plan would need to be finalized, based on the
outcome of some additional geotechnical work and projected that the grading operation
would take approximately six months to complete
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, stated that she was not pleased with the Staff
Report and was not in favor of the proposed project.
Chairman Clark asked the Commission if they had any comments regarding this item.
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Chairman Clark asked the Commission if they had any comments regarding this item.
The Commission had no specific comments on the proposed SWPPP, but several
members of the Commission complimented the applicant on the quality of the document
presented.
Chairman Clark asked the Commission for a motion regarding this item
Commissioner Alberio moved to accept Staffs recommendation approving the
Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan for the Ocean Trails project, via minute
order. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck. The motion was
passed by a unanimous a roll -call vote, (6-0).
Chairman Clark noted the 15 -day appeal period
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff
5 Pre -Agenda for the Regular Planning Commission Meeting of Tuesday,
February 25, 1997.
Commission
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall requested that whether or not to hold the meeting of March
11, 1997 be discussed at the next regular meeting, since most of the Commission
would be attending a conference in Monterey during that week
Chairman Clark requested that Staff agendize cancellation of the March 11, 1997
meeting due to the attendance of the Commission at the `Planners Institute' Conference
in Monterey on a future agenda He also requested that Staff prepare a projection of
the future workload for 1997 for discussion at a future meeting.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, discussed the relationship between rainfall and
geologic movement
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ADJOURNMENT
At 10:13 P.M. Commissioner Ng moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion was
seconded by Vice Chairman Vannorsdall, and there being no objection it was so
ordered by Chairman Clark.
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