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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 24, 1996
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7 00 P M by Chairman Clark at the Hesse
Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Associate Planner Pfost.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Alberio, Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, Whiteneck,
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall and Chairman Clark.
Absent: None
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement/Planning
Commission Secretary Petru and Associate Planner Pfost.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall moved for the approval of the agenda as written The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng and, there being no objection, it was
so ordered by Chairman Clark (7-0)
COMMUNICATIONS
Staff
Director/Secretary Petru distributed the following to the Commission
o Invitations from the City Attorney's office for a reception at the
upcoming League of California Cities conference to be held in the
City of Anaheim, and
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o A full size copy of one of the exhibits for Agenda Item No 3
(Extreme Slope Permit No. 42, Mr. Greg L. Reinhardt, 30829 Via
Rivera)
Commission
Commissioner Alberio related input about discussions of the following topics at
the recent Mayor's Breakfast which he attended: the Planning Commission's
activities, the idea of installing a bike path on Palos Verdes Drive South, and the
utility tax which will be on the ballot in November 1996
CONSENT CALENDAR
MINUTES OF AUGUST 13, 1996
With regard to Consent Calendar Item No 1, Commissioner Ng asked that
paragraph 12, page 15, of the August 13, 1996 Planning Commission minutes be
modified to reflect the names of the Commissioners on the roll call vote.
Commissioner Ng requested that the last four paragraphs on page 15 be modified
to show the title of the topic under discussion in addition to the topic numbers
from the Staff Report
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall suggested that the minutes provided in the agenda
packets be stamped "Draft" to differentiate them from approved minutes
Commissioner Cartwright commended the August 13, 1996 minutes. He offered
the following motion
MOTION Commissioner Cartwright moved for the approval of the August 13,
1996 Planning Commission minutes as modified The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Whiteneck and, there being no objection, it was so ordered by
Chairman Clark (7-0)
2. TIME EXTENSION REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 136, GRADING PERMIT NO. 1246 AND LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT
NO. 38 - YORK LONG POINT ASSOCIATES, 6610 PALOS VERDES
DRIVE SOUTH
MOTION. Commissioner Alberio moved to waive the staff report. The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and there being no objection, it was
so ordered by Chairman Clark (7-0).
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Commissioner Whiteneck asked if a one-year time extension to September 11,
1997 would give the property owner ample time to get all of the work done and
bring this project to a conclusion
On behalf of York Long Point Associates, Mr. James York, 6610 Palos Verdes
Drive South, came forward to explain that the City Council recently approved the
City's hiring of a consultant who he will fund and who will report to the City
Manager and work on the point Long Point/City development project, which could
potentially develop into a golf course on the properties. He stated his
understanding that, after talking to many resort developers, a nine -hole golf
course would not be a sufficient enough attraction to have a top-rated resort on
the Long Point property and said that he therefore, would like to join together
other parcels to facilitate an 18 -hole championship golf course. Mr. York related
his hope that the consultant will be hired by the City very soon and that there will
be some significant progress on this project over the next year.
Chairman Clark clarified that the requested time extension was not to pursue the
previously approved project for the Long Point property, but to pursue a project
as described above by Mr. York.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that both the City and the Coastal Commission
requirements only allow for one-year time extension increments
Commissioner Alberio envisioned that this project will be completely revised
Director/Secretary Petru verified that either new applications could be submitted
or the previously approved plans could be revised. She explained that the project
which Mr York was contemplating would require a variety of land use changes
and additional applications; but, the base applications could either be replaced or
revised to fit into the larger project Ms Petru advised that there was one request
to speak to this item.
Vice Chairman Vannorsdall noted that this was not a public hearing and he
questioned if the Commission must allow requests to speak
Director/Secretary Petru advised that Consent Calendar items which interested
parties would like to address are generally pulled from the Consent Calendar and
discussed later in the meeting; however, if the input was brief, it could be
provided at this time
Ms. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, said that she has resided in Rancho
Palos Verdes since 1963 and was one of the founders of Save Our Coastline
2000, which appealed the Long Point project to the Coastal Commission. She
asked Staff to always use the correct information when referring to the Long Point
project and maintained that the Coastal Commission approved 390 hotel rooms
and 60 casitas, and not a 450 -room hotel
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Director/Secretary Petru advised that staff viewed the Long Point project as a
450 -room hotel with 390 rooms in a main core building, with 60 rooms at the
developer's option in casitas units. She explained further that Staff referred to
them as "rooms" to distinguish them from time shares or any other kind of single-
family residential, long-term residency type facilities.
MOTION- Vice Chairman Vannorsdall moved to approve the Staff
recommendation of a one (1) year time extension via Minute Order, thereby
setting the expiration date as September 11, 1997, with all Conditions of Approval
remaining in full force and effect The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Albeno and ultimately passed by unanimous roll call vote
Discussion continued with Commissioner Franklin stating that he was puzzled
over the City hiring a consultant at Mr. York's expense and that, although he
understood the rationale behind it, he was concerned that the consultant would
present things to the Planning Commission from a biased point of view He
questioned how this type of situation could be avoided in the future.
Chairman Clark related his understanding that the consultant will be selected by
the City on the basis of objective criteria.
Director/Petru explained that the process of hiring the consultant will be very
similar to that of the City hiring a consultant to compile an Environmental Impact
Report and that mechanisms clanfymg that the consultant will be the City's
consultant are built into the process.
The motion passed by unanimous roll call vote (7-0).
Chairman Clark noted the 15 -day appeal period from this date
CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC C HEARINGS
3. EXTREME SLOPE PERMIT NO. 42 - MR. GREG L. REINHARDT
30829 VIA RIVERA
Associate Planner Pfost presented the Staff Report
Chairman Clark opened the public hearing.
There being no requests to speak, the public hearing was closed.
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MOTION Commissioner Alberio moved to approve Extreme Slope Permit No 42
subject to the Conditions of Approval The motion was seconded by Vice
Chairman Vannorsdall and ultimately passed by unanimous roll call vote.
Prior to roll call vote, discussion continued with Commissioner Ng asking if Staff
received any correspondence regarding this project.
Associate Planner Pfost replied that Staff had not.
Chairman Clark asked Staff to explain why this request was not dealt with when
the applicant's spa permit was granted
Associate Planner Pfost advised that, according to the applicant, the applicant
was misled by the previous contractor who did not proceed with obtaining an
Extreme Slope Permit.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that the portion of the deck over the slope was
removed from the plan by the previous contractor when the plans were presented
to the City for review over the counter
Commissioner Cartwright expressed his appreciation of the recommendation to
plant foliage in front of the deck to mitigate any visual impact and he voiced his
regrets that other decks in the area are not screened in such a manner
Chairman Clark mentioned that screening with vegetation was often used on
decks built over extreme slopes.
Commissioner Ng commented that the applicant's previous contractor apparently
did not complete the job and she asked if that contractor would be allowed to do
business in the City in the future
Director/Secretary Petru advised that the City cannot refuse to issue a permit to
contractors that have an active contractor license and a business license in
Rancho Palos Verdes.
Mrs. Mary Reinhardt, applicant, stated her desire to make the deck as nice as
possible She said that the deck would be very small (18'X 6') and enclosed with
tempered glass and that plants will be placed in front of the deck for screening
Commissioner Franklin observed that the vegetation to be planted around the
deck would be "small" and asked if it would grow up to the deck floor
Mrs Reinhardt confirmed that the plants would grow up to the deck floor and that
the deck would be stained a honey brown color to blend in with the hillside.
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Commissioner Ng asked if Staff normally distributed information on contractors to
the public, should he make a future effort to do business in the City.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that, as a public agency, the Staff cannot
advocate or oppose contractors that work in the City and must remain neutral.
She noted that there were other consumer protection agencies that dealt with
these sorts of problems
The motion was passed by unanimous roll call vote (7-0).
Chairman Clark noted the 15 -day appeal period from this date
NEW BUSINESS
None.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff
4 PRE -AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING OF THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8. 1996
Staff
Chairman Clark requested updated information on the 107 foot high antenna
tower request proposed by Mr. Peter Von Hagen.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that Staff has been in discussions with the City
Attorney about the memo the Commission requested regarding Federal antenna
requirements and restrictions and that this information will be available for the
meeting of October 8, 1996. She explained that a meeting was held between the
various parties involved but no compromise was reached
Director/Secretary Petru reviewed the remainder of the Planning Commission
Pre -Agenda for October 8, 1996. She related that the Height Modification
Guidelines and a Conditional Use Permit revision for the Tramonto by the Sea
tract will be included on the October 8, 1996 meeting agenda as New Business
items
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Commissioner Ng observed that the minutes for the Adjourned Planning
Commission meeting of August 19, 1996 were not included on the Pre -Agenda
for the meeting of October 8, 1996.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that those minutes are being prepared and that,
if completed, they will be included on the meeting agenda for October 8, 1996
Commissioner Cartwright recalled that the Commission previously asked Staff to
provide information about the previous appeal hearings for Minor Exception
Permits for antennas
Director/Secretary Petru advised that a summary with some detail will be
provided in the Staff Report for October 8, 1996.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Mrs. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, expressed her increased admiration for
Commissioner Franklin in raising the issue of the City accepting money from the
Long Point developer to hire a consultant (as discussed earlier in the meeting)
Ms Larue explained that Tramonto means "sunset" in Italian, reviewed the
ownership history of the Tramonto by the Sea property; and commended former
Councilman Ryan's accomplishment of reducing the number of homes in that
tract from 63 to 43 She related input on her personal successes pertaining to the
Portuguese Landslide
ADJOURNMENT
At 7.44 P.M. the meeting was formally adjourned to a Regular Meeting on
Tuesday, October 8, 1996, 7.00 P M.
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