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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 28,1996
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7 05 P M by Chairman Clark at the Hesse Park
Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard
FLAG SALUTE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Director of Planning, Building and Code
Enforcement/Planning Commission Secretary Petru.
ROLL CALL
Present Commissioners Alberio, Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, Whiteneck
and Chairman Clark
Absent Vice Chairman Vannorsdall (excused).
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement/Planning
Commission Secretary Petru, Assistant Planner deFreitas, Code Enforcement Officer
Pollard and Recording Secretary Selogie.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Alberio moved for the approval of the agenda as written. The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Franklin and, there being no objection, it was so
ordered by Chairman Clark (6-0).
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CaMNWNICATIONS
Staff
Director/Secretary Petru distributed the following written material a schedule for the
1996-97 League of California Cities' meetings, letters (dated May 8, 1996 and May 28,
1996) from Commissioner Franklin regarding the Wayfarer's Chapel project, which was
considered by the Planning Commission on April 13, 1996, two large fold -out maps
pertaining to Agenda Item No 3 (General Plan Consistency Determination, The Nazanan
Corporation, a Portion of the Undeveloped Narbonne Avenue Public Right -of- Way
between Sunnyside Ridge Road and Palos Verdes Drive East), a memorandum from
Commissioner Alberio regarding Agenda Item No. 5 (Commission Subcommittee Report
on Position Paper to City Council Regarding Appointment of the Chair and Terms of the
Commission Members); and a photograph showing the existing monument sign at the
main tract entry for Agenda Item No 7 (Sign Permit No 805, Shapell Industries, Tract
No 33206 [Rancho Palos Verdes Estates]).
There was a consensus of the Commission to discuss the written information
regarding Wayfarer's Chapel provided by Commissioner Franklin at the next
regular meeting on June 11, 1996.
Commission
Chairman Clark noted the League's Planners' Institute was scheduled to be held on
March 12 through 14, 1997 in Monterey, California. He also provided input about
discussion at the recent Mayors' Breakfast he attended
Commissioner Alberio called attention to the Annual League Conference to take place
during October 1996 in Anaheim, California
Commissioner Ng asked when the newly appointed Planning Commissioners will receive
copies of the General Plan She also asked if maps showing the earthquake faults in the
area are available.
Director/Secretary Petru advised that copies of the General Plan will be provided to the
Commissioners who need them in approximately two weeks, that the General Plan
includes a map showing the earthquake faults in the area and that the City is looking into
the possibility of purchasing a detailed earthquake fault map from the United States
Geological Society
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Commissioner Franklin related his understanding that the City is behind on the updating
of the General Plan. Director/Secretary Petru clarified that State law requires the
updating of the Housing Element of the General Plan every five years and recommends
the same for the General Plan and that the General Plan update has been presented to the
City Council as part of the Department's proposed budget for the past three years.
Chairman Clark observed that the Planning Commission could review the General and
Coastal Specific Plans and make recommendations on potential amendments and updates
to the City Council.
Commissioner Alberio stated his understanding that, prior to updating the General Plan,
interested parties would have an opportunity to discuss it at Town Hall meetings.
Director/Secretary Petru related Staff's suggestion that the Planning Staff conduct a
preliminary review of the General Plan with the Planning Commission before presenting
it for input from the public
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of April 23, 1996
Minor modifications to the minutes of April 23, 1996 were offered by various
Commissioners. Referring to his memorandum dated May 28, 1996, Commissioner
Franklin recommended several significant modifications to the minutes of April 23,
1996 The Commission agreed to table the approval of the April 23, 1996 minutes to
give Staff an opportunity to examine the recommendations pertaining to the Wayfarer's
Chapel project, as provided by Commissioner Franklin. The following motion was
offered.
Commissioner Franklin moved to table Consent Calendar Item No. 1(Minutes of
April 23, 1996) until the meeting of June 11, 1996 to allow Staff time to examine his
recommended language changes pertaining to the Wayfarer's Chapel project. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and, there being no objection, it
was so ordered by Chairman Clark (6-0).
2 Grading No. 1876 - Mr. John Wolff,0267 Avenida de Calma (KK)
Commissioner Cartwright acknowledged that he lives more than 300 feet from the
subject property, but approximated that he lives within 2,500 feet of it. However, he
stated that he felt that there was no conflict of interest with his participating in the
Commission's consideration of this project, since he cannot see the project from his
property and it would not impact him in any way
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Commissioner Franklin questioned if the applicant would be required to sign a Hold
Harmless Agreement to protect the City against any liability in case the wall were to fail
Director/Secretary Petru advised that Hold Harmless Agreements are not typically
required in such a situation and that the only time the City would make such a
requirement was if the property was in the Moratorium Area or the wall was already
built She noted that the proposed project would be fully reviewed and inspected by the
City's Building & Safety Division
3. General Plan Consistency Determination - The Nazarian Corporation,
a Portion of the Undeveloped Narbonne Avenue Public Right -of -Way
between Sunnyside Ridge Road and Palos Verdes Drive East (CP)
Commissioner Ng asked if the portion of the easement under discussion at this time was
the only remaining portion of the easement acquired when the City was incorporated
Director/Secretary Petru advised the Commission as to the following. that there are two
other segments remaining -- one south of this property between Sunnyside Ridge Road
and the bottom of the canyon between Sunnyside Ridge and Rockinghorse Roads and one
from the bottom of the canyon to Rockinghorse Road; that the parcel off of Rockinghorse
Road is owned jointly by the City and the County, it was auctioned recently with the City
and the County splitting the proceeds, it is subject to development of a single-family
home, that the easement from the bottom of the canyon between Sunnyside Ridge and
Rockinghorse Roads is owned by the City with the easement over it; and that this
particular piece of property is in private ownership and the City only has an easement
over this property.
Chairman Clark pointed out that the Parks and Recreation and Traffic Committees
supported the concept of vacating the easement in terms of traffic and recreational uses
and that the Planning Commission was asked on behalf of the City Council to look at this
issue for consistency with the General Plan.
Director/Secretary Petru clarified for Commissioner Franklin that the portion of
Sunnyside Ridge Road adjacent to the subject property is a public street
Commissioner Alberio moved for the approval of Consent Calendar Item Nos. 2
(P.C. Resolution No. 96-11) and 3, as recommended by Staff. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and, there being no objection, it was so
ordered by Chairman Clark (6-0).
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CONTINUED BUSINESS
4 Planning Commission Rules and Procedures
The Commission amended the proposed P C Resolution as follows
Paragraph 2 1 " .at the discretion of the Chairperson. These minutes
shall be duly preserved. A copy of any such "
Paragraph 2.5 "3 All speakers must first state their full names and
the names of any persons in whose behalf they are
appearing (if any) and are requested to give their
addresses.
Paragraph 2 2 "(a) Presentation of staff report, including any environ-
mental analysis or recommendation.
(b) Questions of staff by members of Planning Commission.
(c) Public hearing opened.
Paragraph 4.1.1 "...If there is no action by an affirmative vote, the result is
dental If the matter involves an appeal and an
affirmative vote does not occur, the result is that the
decision appealed stands as decided by the decision
maker from which the appeal was taken.
Commissioner Whiteneck moved for the adoption of P.C. Resolution No. 96-12 ,
thereby approving revised Planning Commission Rules and Procedures, as modified.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ng and, there being no objection, it was
so ordered by Chairman Clark (6-0).
Director/Secretary Petru verified that the revised Planning Commission Rules and
Procedures will be distributed to the Commissioners at the next meeting.
5. Commission Subcommittee Report on Position Paver to City Council
Re2ardina Appointment of the Chair and Terms of the Commission Members
Referring to his May 28, 1996 memorandum addressed to Mayor Lyon and Members of
City Council, Commissioner Alberio provided an overview on the Subcommittee's
recommendations about the appointment of the Planning Commission Chairman and the
terms of service for the Planning Commission members
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Commissioners Alberio and Whiteneck supported the Subcommittee's recommendation
that the election of the Chairman and Vice Chairman should be made by the Commission
and rotated every year
Commissioners Cartwright, Franklin, Ng and Chairman Clark saw some merits in the
continued appointment of the Planning Commission Chairman by the City Council
With regard to the appointment of the Planning Commission Chairman and the terms of
the Planning Commission members, the Commission recommended the following to the
City Council.
That the Planning Commissioner terms of service shall be four years,
That the City Council consider delegating the election of the Planning
Commission Chairman. to the Planning Commission,
That the Chairman shall not be a first-year Planning Commissioner,
- That the appointments to the Planning Commission shall be
staggered to benefit the Commission with experienced members, and
That the total number of Commissioners shall remain at seven (7)
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentme Road, maintained that it is not necessary for the Planning
Commission Chairman to be an experienced Planning Commissioner in that the
Chairman simply chairs the meeting She contended that the Commission's viewpoint
that the Chairman should not be a first-year Commissioner shows there is a hidden
agenda
With regard to the appointment of the Planning Commission Chairman and the
terms of the Planning Commission members, Commissioner Alberio moved to adapt
the recommendations as discussed and to forward a revised position paper to the
City Council for consideration. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Whiteneck and passed by unanimous roll call vote (6-0).
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. Variance No. 404 - Ms. Grace Kadoya, 4516 Palos Verdes Drive East
Assistant Planner deFreitas presented the staff report. He explained Staff's opinion that
all the findings of fact necessary to grant the request could be made, that the sloping
nature of the lot creates a situation whereby the applicant cannot landscape the lot in
accordance with City Code requirements without affecting the buffer and privacy
currently available to the applicant via the hedge, that the hedge does not impair the
views from any nearby residential properties and that the it is consistent with vegetation
found throughout the City and, particularly, in the Miraleste area.
Commissioner Ng asked if other properties with vegetation similar to the applicant's
have Variances. Assistant Planner deFreitas affirmed that the vast majority do not. He
advised the Commission of the City Council's recent direction not to pursue enforcement
of hedges that exceed the height limits specified in the Code and he noted that the
Council will be examining the idea of establishing an overlay district to look at the
situation in greater detail and to perhaps allow less stringent requirements in certain areas
of the City
Commissioners Alberto and Franklin asked if this property is within the jurisdiction of
the Palos Verdes Art Jury and, if so, how the Planning Commission's decision would be
affected.
Assistant Planner deFreitas advised that the property was within the jurisdiction of the
Palos Verdes Art Jury, which oversees structures, additions, houses, etc to the Miraleste
area of the City
Director/Secretary Petru clarified that there was land within Miraleste which was owned
by the Miraleste Parks and Recreation District and was separate from the Palos Verdes
Homes Association boundaries, which included deed restrictions to comply with the
terms of the Art Jury requirements. She advised that the subject property is not owned by
the Miraleste Parks and Recreation District.
Chairman Clark recalled that the City Council's recent discussions considered how to
handle hedges to the Miraleste area because of the rural character there and discussed
whether there should be a separate ordinance for hedges to Rancho Palos Verdes.
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Director/Secretary Petru explained that Staff had suggested an amendment to the
Development Code to eliminate any height limitations on hedges and to have the View
Restoration Commission consider hedges if there is a view issue She further explained
that the City Council did not give Staff direction to make that change to the Code but,
instead, directed Staff to return with information about establishing an overlay district to
include the Miraleste area and exempt certain hedges from the ordinance after the
Development Code revisions are adopted.
Commissioner Ng moved to open the public hearing. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Cartwright and, there being no objection, it was so ordered by
Chairman Clark.
Ms Grace Kadoya, (applicant) 326 S State Street, Los Angeles, 90033, discussed the
following. that she was involved in an accident and, because of lacerations to her face,
she was told by a doctor she should not live on the property because it was too sunny,
that she won litigation involving a neighbor who removed a great amount of vegetation
on her property; that her hedge does not impair any views, that several other properties in
the neighborhood have hedges similar to hers, that she purchased the property because
the foliage and the rural area appealed to her
Director/Secretary Petru noted that, at this time, the Code Enforcement program is
primarily reactive (and not proactive) and that a fairly large number of the Code
Enforcement cases in the City which are referred to the City Prosecutor involve hedges
Ms Kadoya related her agreement with the Staff recommendations She said that the
people currently living on her property indicated that trimming the hedge extensively
results in noise and car lights shining onto the property.
Ms Janet Levering, 31281 Ganado Drive, the listing agent for the property when it was
purchased by Ms Kadoya, stated the following that the majority of homes in the area
have hedges which are much higher than 42 inches; that most of the homeowners would
not have purchased their properties if the hedges had been only 42 inches because of
privacy, and that this particular hedge involves safety as well as privacy. She voiced
concern that the grudge of an adjacent neighbor can result in a homeowner spending
$2,000 for a Variance
Mr Keith Tanabe, 1812 W 135th Street, provided input regarding the applicant's
neighbor removing vegetation from the subject property He commented on privacy and
safety issues related to this matter, pointed out that several of the homes in the Miraleste
area have hedges similar to the applicant's, and asked the Commission to consider
abating some of the Variance filing fee
Chairman Clark said that Variance fees help support the cost of the work performed by
Staff and, even though he sympathizes with the applicant, the Commission cannot
confirm that the expenses incurred by the applicant were brought about by a neighbor
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Director/Secretary Petru advised that there was a penalty fee associated with this
application and that the applicant intends to request a waiver from the City Council
The Commission agreed to recommend to the City Council that the penalty fees
associated with the Variance be waived and the following motions were offered.
Commissioner Whiteneck moved to close the public hearing. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Ng and, there being no objection, it was so ordered by
Chairman Clark.
Commissioner Alberio moved for the adoption of P.C. Resolution No. 96-13 thereby
approving Variance No. 404 as recommended by Staff, with a recommendation to
the City Council that the penalty fees associated with the Variance be waived. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Cartwright and passed by unanimous roll
call vote (6-0).
Chairman Clark explained appeal procedures
7 Sian Permit No. 805 - Shaaell Industries, Tract No. 33206 (Rancho Palos
Verdes Estates)
Refemng to the staff report, Code Enforcement Officer Pollard provided background
information on this item
Commissioner Cartwright related his opinion that four signs would be excessive He
voiced his understanding that the existing signs in the public right-of-way would be
removed and that the new signs would be installed on the applicant's property
Commissioner Franklin pointed out that, contrary to information in the staff report, the
signs were not removed by April 30, 1996
Director/Secretary Petru advised that the applicant had volunteered to remove the signs,
however, the City told the applicant that to replace them on common area would require
a Sign Permit processed by the Planning Commission Since a Sign Permit application
was submitted, the enforcement of the signs in the right-of-way was, therefore,
suspended. She also verified that this New Business item was not publicly noticed.
Commissioner Ng related her feeling that four signs would not be excessive for the
number of lots remaining
At the request of Commissioner Ng, Code Enforcement Officer Pollard provided
information about the size of the existing signs He affirmed that the proposed signs
would be much smaller than the existing ones
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There being no further discussion, the following motion was offered
Commissioner Cartwright moved for the approval of the Staff recommendation to
approve the request via Minute Order, subject to the conditions in Exhibit "A". The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberio and, there being no objection, it was
so ordered by Chairman Clark (6-0).
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff
8. Pre -Agenda for the Regular Planning Commission Meeting of Tuesday,
June 11,1996
Director/Secretary Petru advised that, pursuant to discussion earlier in this meeting, the
Planning Commission minutes of April 23, 1996 would be placed on the Planning
Commission agenda for the meeting of June 11, 1996
Commission
The Commission requested that the additional information regarding the Wayfarer's
Chapel provided by Commissioner Franklin be placed on the June 11, 1996 agenda for
discussion.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (Regarding Non -Agenda Items)
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, objected to the idea of the City issuing $60,000,000
in bonds as proposed by the landowners of the Ocean Trails project, voiced concern that
the City Council previously permitted one of the landowners to speak much longer than a
speaker who wished to state her opposition to the bonds, asked that the Planning
Commission discourage the City from issuing the bonds; and related her understanding
that the Council of Homeowners wrote a letter opposing the idea
ADJOURNMENT
At 9 15 P M the meeting was duly adjourned to Tuesday, June 11, 1996, 7 00 P.M.
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