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PC MINS 19960109_ APPROVED 2/13/96 CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 9, 1996 After a ceremonial presentation honoring former Planning Commission Chairman Nick Mowlds, the meeting was called to order at 7 10 P M. by Chairman Clark at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Nick Mowlds. All members of the Planning Commission were sworn in by Deputy City Clerk Sara Ferdman PRESENT. Commissioners Albeno, Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, Vannorsdall, Whiteneck and Chairman Clark ABSENT NONE Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement/Planning Commission Secretary Bernard, Planning Administrator Petru, Assistant Planner Fabio de Freitas, and Recording Secretary Drasco SELECTION OF VICE CHAIR Commissioner Whiteneck moved to nominate Commissioner Vannorsdall for Vice Chair, seconded by Commissioner Alberio. There were no other nominations. Approved, (7-0). APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Alberio moved to accept the agenda, as presented, seconded by Commissioner Cartwright. Approved, (7-0). COMMUNICATIONS Staff- Director/Secretary Bernard congratulated the new Commissioners on their appointment and stated that he and Staff looked forward to working with them At the request of Chairman Clark, he introduced the Planning, Building, and Code Enforcement Staff who were present at the meeting Director/Secretary Bernard mentioned that there were three brochures provided to the Commission regarding training sessions which might be of interest He also noted that there had one piece of late correspondence provided to the Commission regarding Item No. 3, listing additional suggested a r� conditions, and stated that the Commission could remove the item from the Consent Calendar for further discussion, if so desired Commission Several Commissioners indicated that they had received a phone call from Mrs Joan Wright inviting them to visit the area above Wayfarers Chapel Chairman Clark asked each member of the Commission to introduce themselves, summarizing their background and experience • ` MIUTI ! f Director/Secretary Bernard and Planning Administrator Petru discussed Planning Commission procedures and informational materials distributed to the Commissioners prior to the meeting, and answered questions RECESS AND RECONVENE Recessed at 9.15 to 9 27 P.M. APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR Chairman Clark asked Staff if was appropriate to have only the three returning Commissioners vote on the Consent Calendar items, since the new Commissioner had not been appointed at the time these items were discussed Planning Administrator Petru replied that she had verified with the City Attorney that items could be approved, as long as the motion was passed by a majority of the returning members. At this time, Chairman Clark asked Vice Chair Vannorsdall to chair the meeting for approval of the Consent Calendar 1. MINUTES OF DECEMBER 12 1995 Vice Chair Vannorsdall suggested that, on Page 1, in the last line of the last paragraph, the word "location" should be added after the words "sewer drain", on Page 2, in the first line of the first paragraph, the words "where future steps would be placed" be added after the word "driveway"; on Page 2, in the fifth line of the first paragraph, the word "add" be inserted before the word "steps'; on Page 2, new paragraph should be PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9, 1996 PAGE 2 inserted to read "The applicant agreed to it", and, on Page 5, in the first line of the fifth paragraph, the word "be" should be deleted before the word "include". Commissioner Alberio suggested that, on Page 2, in the first sentence of the last paragraph, the sentence should be reworded to read " noted that he could not find any cantilever ", on Page 3, in the first sentence of the second paragraph, the word "the" should be inserted before the word "engineer", and, on Page 3, in the first sentence a of the sixth paragraph, the word "the" should be inserted before the word "deck" Commissioner Alberio moved to accept the minutes, as amended, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (3-0-4) with Commissioners Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, and Chairman Clark Abstaining; as they had not yet been appointed to the Commission and were not present at the December 12, 1995 Meeting. 2 HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 815 - APPEAL, Damiano and Sarah Colaroutolo, 4033 Miraleste Drive. (KK) Commissioner Alberio moved to adopt P.C. Resolution No. 96-1; thereby approving Height Variation No. 815 -Appeal, as re -designed, subject to conditions, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (3-0-4), with Commissioners Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, and Chairman Clark abstaining; as they had not yet been appointed to the Commission when this item was discussed previously. 3 VARIANCE NO. 392, GRADING PERMIT NO. 1819; Mr Arthur Fein, 27520 Elmbridge Drive. (DJ) Commissioner Alberio moved to adopt P.C. Resolution No. 96-2; thereby approving Variance No. 392, subject to conditions; and, to adopt P.C. Resolution No. 96-3; thereby approving Grading Permit No. 1819, subject to conditions. Approved (3-0-4), with Commissioners Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, and Chairman Clark abstaining; as they had not yet been appointed to the Commission when this item was discussed previously. Director/Secretary Bernard indicated that the P.C. Resolutions for Items No 2 and 3 would be signed that evening and that there was a 15 -day appeal period for any interested party to appeal the Commission's decision to the City Council At this time Chairman Clark resumed presiding over the meeting. CONTINUED BUSINESS (NO ITEMS) PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 3 PUBLIC HEARINGS 4. COA PERMIT NO 77 - REVISION. GRADING PERMIT NO. 1315 - REVISION. ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO. 680; Portuguese Bend Club, 4100 Palos Verdes Drive South {FF} Assistant Planner de Freitas presented the Staff Report, stating that remedial grading in this area had been approved by the Planning Commission in the past, but had been limited by the allowed quantity of earthwork Based on a suggestion from Dr. Perry Ehlig, City Geologist, the Portuguese Bend Club was requesting that the Commission approve a contour grading plan to maintain the land at a specific contour, regardless of the amount of earth that had to be moved Commissioner Whiteneck asked if the highest contour of the fill area would be an elevation of 120 feet above sea level. Assistant Planner de Freitas replied that this was correct, but that the project engineer could best provide details as to what stage of the plan the grading was in terms of the quantity of fill, and where the fill had been placed in accordance with the plan Commissioner Whiteneck asked if additional fill height or a different location was required and whether the applicant would have to return for review by the Commission. Director/Secretary Bernard said that this was correct Commissioner Ng asked who would monitor the progress of the grading Assistant Planner de Freitas said that the monitoring would be performed by Dr Perry Ehlig and that the applicant could be required to provide periodic reports to Staff, which could be passed on to the Commission Director/Secretary Bernard said that input was needed from the Commission as to the appropriate intervals of the status reports and that the Resolution would reflect the Commission's final determination He added that Staff had suggested three to six month intervals Vice Chair Vannorsdall questioned the need for monitoring because the fill would eventually be washed away by wave erosion at the toe of the slide. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 4 Commissioner Cartwright asked if he understood correctly that Staff was suggesting that there be a written quarterly report and an annual verbal presentation to the Director, and then subsequent status reports back to the Planning Commission Assistant Planner de Freitas replied that this was correct but that the Planning Commission could modify this schedule, as it deemed appropriate Director/Secretary Bernard added that representatives of the Portuguese Bend Club indicated to Staff that this interval and method of reporting was acceptable Commissioner Whiteneck asked about the current rate of land movement in this area, adding that if the rate of movement was not great, monitoring might not be needed Director/Secretary suggested that the project engineer could answer Commissioner Whiteneck's question Commissioner Ng assumed that an increase in rainfall increased the rate of movement of the landslide. Director/Secretary Bernard said that the amount of rainfall did have an impact on the rate of movement but also on whether or not the City could afford to complete all the projects in the RDA area that were currently planned to remediate the larger landslide. Commissioner Cartwright felt that quarterly reporting would be reasonable Chairman Clark asked if there had been a contoured grading plan before Director/Secretary Bernard said that grading permits are normally based on the quantity of earth movement However, due to the unique circumstances in the Portuguese Bend Club, contour grading had been suggested as an alternative that would be appropriate and workable in this area. Commissioner Alberio moved to open the public hearing, seconded by Vice Chair Vannorsdall. Approved (7-0). Mr Steve Cummins (project engineer) Dallas and Cummins Associates, Civil Engineers, 17625 Crenshaw Boulevard, Torrance, CA 90504 Mr Cummins reported to the Commission that he owned property in the Portuguese Bend Club at #81 Yacht Harbor Drive, that he did not currently reside at that address, but that he was representing the Homeowners Association PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 5 Mr. Cummins shared his immediate concerns 1) How the residents on the slip planes east of the beach access road were being affected by the slide 2) The bad condition of the road itself, although it was not proposed to be repaved at this time 3) This was the rainy season and rain accelerated the landslide but, luckily, there had been little rain so far that year. He explained that the Portuguese Bend Club was located on the southeast edge of the slip plane. As the main body of the landslide to the north and west moves toward the ocean, at approximately 1/2" per day, where the underlying slip plane came up toward the Bend Club, there was a dragging, twisting affect on the main body of the slide mass, so that over the years (about 58) the land had been pushed up At one time, the area was almost flat all the way to the ocean, but that same area next to Yacht Harbor Drive was now 1 00'to 150' above the homes This has created secondary lateral forces which could result in another slide in the direction of the homes, because of their lower elevation. Dr. Ehlig had previously indicated to him that it would be worthwhile to attempt to load the lower portion (the toe) of the main slide, thereby creating a resisting force for the upper portion and possibly slow it down Mr Cummins had several questions regarding the Staff Report 1) He questioned the need for a second grading permit He was under the impression that because the fill was to be placed on City property, only one grading permit would be needed. 2) He was expecting resolutions to be signed that evening because the Portuguese Bend Club had applied for federal funding and was anxious to resume the work in the area, using the new contour plan Director/Secretary Bernard said that he would answer both questions. 1) A January 1995 letter explained to Mr McCarthy and Ms Lovnch the need for the second grading permit, as the Code required one for each property where grading was proposed Therefore, this was not the first time this requirement had been mentioned Mr Bernard then offered to provide a copy of the letter to Mr. Cummins. 2) Since there was an emergency Grading Permit still in place from May 1994, the work could proceed as necessary in order to protect the homes Mr Bernard clarified that the City had never told them to stop Planning Administrator Petru added that, per Code, the City required a separate grading permit for each property. However, in a discussion with the City Manager, since the fill site was RDA property, a letter could be accepted from the RDA, in this instance, in lieu of the second permit. If the contour lines were exceeded, a second grading permit might be needed, depending on where the material was going to be placed PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 6 Director/Secretary Bernard asked Mr. Cummins about the Staffs suggestions on the monitoring reports. Mr. Cummins indicated that he was in favor of monitoring since the Homeowners Association was paying for this work and it was important to stay in touch with the contractor who was performing the work Mr. John McCarthy, (President, Portuguese Bend Club Homeowners Association), 105 Spindrift Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes Mr. McCarthy stated that most of his questions had already been answered during discussions so far at this hearing He reiterated that the Homeowners Association had incurred much expense to protect the homes in the area and since the funds were depleted, he had contacted FEMA for a loan However, there was a six-month period of time during which the work had to be performed He had been concerned that the work could not be continued and was glad to hear that this was not the case and also happy to hear that two Grading Permits would not be necessary. Mr McCarthy indicated that he would continue to work closely with the City because the City and the Homeowners Association had the same goal to protect the homes in the area Director/Secretary Bernard reassured Mr. McCarthy that, even though the Portuguese Bend Club did not have a signed Resolution to take to FEMA, they might have a conceptual approval from the Planning Commission after tonight's meeting that he could use in place of the Resolution Commissioner Franklin asked if the Coastal Commission had any involvement in this project Planning Administrator Petru explained that the land was in an "appealable area" of the City's Coastal Zone and that, over and above appeals at City level, there would be a 10 -day appeal period to the Coastal Commission, if an approval of this project was granted by the City Commissioner Franklin asked how a Coastal Commission appeal could affect the timing of this project Planning Administrator Petru replied that the Coastal Commission met only once a month at different locations up and down state Therefore, it was likely that there would be some delay in scheduling the appeal to be heard by the Coastal Commission Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, Rancho Palos Verdes, introduced herself and explained her interest in the landslide to the new Commissioners She distributed a booklet about the Portuguese Bend landslide written by Bernard Pipkin {who was retired from the PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 7 University of Southern California and who laved in Palos Verdes Estates) in which he indicated how serious the problem was in this area of the City She described how a year earlier bulldozers had been working on the landslide with the approval of the City Manager but without a public hearing. She did not agree with removal of dirt at the bottom of the landslide because the proper method to handle the landslide should be to remove dirt from the top and build up (not remove) dirt at the bottom of the landslide to form a buttress. She indicated that monitoring was a new concept, that materials provided to the public at Planning Commission hearings were incomplete, and that she had no faith in Dr. Perry Ehlig's recommendation regarding management of the landslide. Chairman Clark asked if her comments indicated that she was opposed to the contour grading Lois Larue said that she did not understand the concept of contour grading and dad not think that anyone else did either but she stressed that she did not want earth removed on the seaward side of Palos Verdes Drive South and that she did not believe that effective monitoring was possible. Commissioner Alberto moved to close the public hearing, seconded by Commissioner Cartwright. Approved (7-0). Commissioner Ng asked, if the project was approved and monitoring indicated that there was a problem with the fill relative to the environment, could the work be stopped Director/Secretary Bernard said that the City and the Portuguese Bend Club both wanted what was best for the adjacent homes and that the plan could always be revised if it was found to be harmful or ineffective Chairman Clark asked if there was a mechanism to stop the work if the monitoring program Indicated negative results. Director/Secretary said that there was, since the conditions allowed that either party to seek modification to the approved grading plan. Commissioner Alberio clarified that the issue before the Planning Commission was not the monitoring intervals but the method of grading. Director/Secretary Bernard agreed, stating that Dr Perry Ehlig had identified the best method and location for placing the fill, which would be best for the City and the Portuguese Bend Club PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1986 PAGE 8 Commissioner Cartwright asked what types of information would be included in monitoring reports. Director/Secretary Bernard said that this would probably vary as the process moved forward and that Dr Ehlig would be consulted for his suggestions Commissioner Franklin asked about the fill area and whether the earth moved to the designated area would likely wash out to sea Director/Secretary Bernard acknowledged that this would most likely happen because there was nothing in place to prevent continued wave erosion at the toe of the slide However, Dr Ehlig and the City's panel of experts were attempting to determine the proper method to anchor landslide at the toe Chairman Clark mentioned the use of gabions, which had been used in the past, indicating that he believed they had not been successful in keeping the earth from washing out to sea. Planning Administrator Petru and Chairman Clark indicated that gabions had been used in the past in this area but that they had been only a temporary solution and that eventually the earth did wash out to sea after the gabions had been destroyed by heavy winter storms Commissioner Franklin felt that it would have been better to have the City's Geologist present at the meeting to explain the impacts of the earth washing out to sea. Commissioner Whiteneck explained that Charles Abbott had been present at a recent Commission meeting and Mr. Abbott said that the toe of the slide was located offshore. Mr Whiteneck was concerned because earth was going to be moved from one part of the landslide to another where it was expected to wash away He questioned the accuracy of the drawing, specifically the statement that the mean high tide line was located at the 80' contour line Citing his 28 years of experience working along this coastline as an engineer, Commissioner Whiteneck said that he did not believe that the mean high tide line was as high as 80' He stated that, at best, the contour grading plan was a temporary solution and that the plan should be reviewed by an expert. Director/Secretary Bernard explained that the expert the City would consult would be Dr Perry Ehlig, who was the person who developed the concept of the contour grading plan. Commissioner Franklin wondered if it would be appropriate to build some type of ""retaining wall" structure at the toe of the landslide to minimize erosion PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 9 Commissioner Alberio stated that this was not the Issue before the Commission and that the appropriate method for handling this Immediate problem had already been chosen by the City Geologist Commissioner Whiteneck felt that it was unacceptable that earth should continually be lost due to wave erosion Chairman Clark asked if the dirt had been lost in the previous method of grading Director/Secretary Bernard assumed that it had been washed away since the landslide had continued to move in this area, and suggested that the project engineer should be consulted on this point Mr. Steve Cummins returned to the podium at the request of the Chairman and said that a huge body of land moving at a rate of 1/2" per day was very hard to control He said that the 27,000 cubic yards of earth had been placed in approximately the same area in years past and that it was gone now. Chairman Clark asked if there were any observable adverse effects from this loss. Mr Cummins said there had not been any adverse effects to his knowledge Chairman Clark concluded that, based on past experience, any discussion of the additional fill being placed in that same location as a moot point However, he believed that the Commission could structure in the reporting requirements, some specifics on the fill area and its condition as time passed Commissioner Whiteneck believed that the loss of 27,000 cubic yards of earth should be considered a adverse effect. Chairman Clark said it was the landslide and, not the grading, that caused the earth to wash away and asked if there were suggestions regarding the conditions of approval. Commissioner Whiteneck said that the fill should be placed further up the slope, so that it would not be washed away. However, he realized that the Commission was being asked only to approve the monitoring plan Director/Secretary Bernard noted that this hearing involved an interim grading permit that was not intended to be a final solution to stop the movement of the landslide The City's Redevelopment Agency (RDA) and the Federal Government were currently conducting a feasibility study to determine the best method to anchor the toe of the slide to prevent erosion He added that seeking this solution was dependent on PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 10 upon the City receiving the approval from the Corps of Engineer to proceed with the selected project (which might not happen) and having the funds to implement the plan He clarified that the issue before the Planning Commission that evening was to approve the continuation of the interim remedial grading to protect the homes and Yacht Harbor Drive Commisioner Whiteneck replied that, although he understood the urgency of the situation, he wondered if there might not be a better location for the fill where it might not be washed away Director/Secretary Bernard suggested that the conditions could include a requirement for the applicant to explore alternative locations for the fill to be placed in the future. Mr Cummins said that he agreed with the previous speaker (Lois Larue) who said that placing earth at the bottom of the landslide as a buttress was the correct way to control the landslide. Commissioner Whiteneck disagreed, stating that he believed the earth only held the landslide back as long as it was there, but then it washed out to sea. Vice Chair Vannorsdall and Commissioners Franklin and Whiteneck wondered if moving the fill from the City (RDA) property would require approval by the City Council Planning Administrator Petru said only a separate grading permit reviewed by the Planning Commission would be necessary Chairman Clark asked the Commissioners if they recommended the contoured grading method or did they have another suggestion Vice Chair Vannorsdall and Commissioner Alberio indicated that they were in favor of the contour grading plan Commissioner Cartwright agreed with Staffs recommendation for contour grading but wanted to make sure that reasonable monitoring requirements were included in the conditions of approval Commissioner Whiteneck said that he was in favor of the monitoring and wanted to see an alternative location for the fill investigated PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 11 • Commissioner Ng was concerned about the fill location also and asked how Staff would transmit the monitoring reports to the Commission. Director/Secretary Bernard said that the information would be placed in the Planning Commissioner's regular agenda packet Commissioner Franklin agreed that monitoring and contour grading were good concepts and that the Portuguese Bend Club should proceed with the emergency action, but he suggested that Dr. Perry Ehlig prepare a "white paper" to justify the specific location chosen for the fill and that the Planning Commissioner discuss the location again at a later date Chairman Clark believed contour grading would be beneficial to the Portuguese Bend Club and the City, but also supported the concept of conditions to require a further study regarding the location of the fill Commissioner Alberio moved to accept the Staff recommendation, seconded by Vice Chair Vannorsdall. Commissioner Franklin asked if the motion should include the request for a "white paper" from Dr. Ehlig. Commissioner Albeno believed that it should not because this would be studied later Chairman Clark clarified that Commissioner Franklin's suggestion of a "white paper" was valid and that Commissioner Alberto was correct to suggest that the location of the fill could be left open in the conditions of approval Planning Administrator Petru indicated that another condition the Commission might wish to consider would be that either party may seek revision to the permit, if circumstances warrant a change to the project Chairman Clark suggested that the conditions should also describe situations under which the City could stop the grading Commissioner Whiteneck asked what those situations might be Chairman Clark said that this was open to speculation PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 12 Commissioner Franklin asked if these were amendments to the original motion made by Commissioner Alberio Chairman Clark determined that these modifications were agreeable to the maker and the seconder of the motion Director/Secretary Bernard clarified that the motion was to approve the Staff recommendation to approve the protect in concept and bring back Resolutions to the next meeting, which would include the conditions of approval, as modified by the Commission The motion was approved (5-2) on the following roll call vote. AYES: Commissioners Alberio, Cartwright, Franklin, Vice Chair Vannorsdall, and Chairman Clark NOTES: Commissioners Ng and Whiteneck ABSTENTIONS: NONE NEW BUSINESS' 5. VARIANCE NO 401 - CLARIFICATION, Mr. and Mrs Vincent Carbone, 29723 Knollview Drive. (FF) Chairman Clark asked Vice Chair Vannorsdall to preside over the hearing for this item Assistant Planner de Freitas presented the Staff Report, stating that Staff was recommending approval of the applicant's proposed modification to elevations of the house and was seeking direction from the Commission regarding steepness of the driveway, since the Commission's previously proposed suggestions were proving to be unfeasible Commissioner Whiteneck asked of steps were going to placed down center of driveway and if a mirror was to be installed across the street from the driveway for traffic safety Assistant Planner de Freitas said that the architect had included the steps in the revised plans for better access up to the house and that a requirement for a mirror had been listed in the conditions of approval. Vice Chair Vannorsdall called for the first speaker on this item PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 13 Mr Ray Medak, (protect architect), 150 West Sixth Street, #201, San Pedro, CA 90731 Mr. Medak corrected the address of the subject property (as indicated on the agenda) which should be 29723 (not 29733) Knollview Drive He explained that there had already been a mirror hidden in the trees across the street for traffic safety and the trees would be trimmed so that the mirror was visible He reaerated Assistant Planner de Freitas' comments about the problems of complying with the Planning Commission's suggestion regarding lessening the steepness of the driveway He explained that there was a storm drain under the center of the driveway, but it was not known how far under the ground it was installed However, since heavy equipment might crack the driveway or the installation of the steps, some or all of the driveway might need to be replaced and the storm drain depth might be determined at that time If replacement was necessary, Mr. Medak speculated that it might be possible to make the driveway steeper on bottom and less steep at the top Regarding the roof design, Mr Medak noted that it had been altered from the original hip design to a gabled design. Commissioner Albeno asked if Mr Medak had spoken to the next door neighbor about obtaining permission to grade onto her property, in order to decrease the steepness of the driveway Mr. Medak said that she had no objection, as long as her view was not blocked, which it would not be Vice Chair Vannorsdall said that he was satisfied with the roof modification but was still concerned with the steepness of the driveway He asked the project architect if it could be made more level at the top Mr. Medak replied that the steepness could be changed by only about one foot Vice Chair Vannorsdall felt that this was not enough of a difference to require the driveway to be re -graded and suggested that Staff work with the applicant to make the driveway as safe as possible during the course of construction on the protect Planning Administrator Petru agreed that Staff would continue to work with the applicant Commissioner Whiteneck moved to accept the Staffs recommendation, thereby providing clarification for Variance 401 as requested by the applicant; and, directed Staff and the applicant to work together to reduce the steepness of the driveway as part of the plan check and construction of the project, seconded by Commissioner Alberio. Approved by Minute Order, (3-0-4), with Commissioners Cartwright, Franklin, Ng, and Chairman Clark abstaining; since they had not been appointed to the Commission when this item was discussed previously. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 14 At this time, Chairman Clark resumed presiding over the meeting ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS Staff - 6 Pre -Agenda for the regular Planning Commission meeting of Tuesday, January 23, 1996 Planning Administrator Petru noted that adoption of the Resolution for Item No 4 (Portuguese Bend Club) would be placed on the agenda for January 23, 1996, and that Staff might recommend that the Wayfarer's Chapel item might be continued to a later date, if the revised plans were not submitted within the next few days Commission Chairman Clark suggested that, at some time in the near future, the Commission review and possibly revise its Rules and Procedures (P C Resolution 92-37) Vice Chair Vannorsdall asked if a geology report for Wayfarer's Chapel could be provided to each Commissioner and he suggested that there be another group site visit. Planning Administrator Petru replied that she would check to see if geology reports could be provided to the Commissioners Commissioner Whiteneck asked if the site visit to Wayfarers Chapel would include the area Mrs Joan Wright had asked the Commissioners to visit. Commissioner Franklin questioned whether the tour with Mrs Wright should be declined in lieu of the visit to the Chapel property Vice Chair Vannorsdall agreed that the new Commissioners should visit the Chapel property first. Planning Administrator Petru suggested that the January 23, 1996 meeting could be adjourned to a group site visit to Wayfarer's Chapel Director/Secretary Bernard said that Staff would coordinate visiting both areas on the same date and that Staff would contact Mrs Wright to coordinate this effort. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9, 1996 PAGE 15 dli i COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding ngagenda items): Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, discussed the City's past use of gabions for landslide control. ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Alberto moved to adjourn, seconded by Commissioner Franklin. The motion carried and the meeting was duly adjourned at 11:14 P.M. The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission would be on Tuesday, January 23, 1996. MCUSERSUACKIDIWPWIN60WIINUTES1IAINI.9 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 9,1996 PAGE 16