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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
August 22, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 7:04 P.M. by Chairman Mowlds
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Commissioner Alberio.
PRESENT: Commissioners Alberio, Vannorsdall, Wang, Whiteneck,
Vice Chair Hayes, and Chairman Mowlds.
ABSENT: Commissioner Ferraro (excused)
Also present were Planning Administrator Petru, Associate Planner
Jerex, and Recording Secretary Drasco.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Commission approved the agenda, as presented, (6-0).
COMMUNICATIONS
Staff:
Planning Administrator Petru noted that a flyer had been
presented to the Planning Commission regarding the annual
conference of the California Chapter of the American Planning
Association to be held in Santa Barbara from September 30 through
October 3, 1995. She added that the Commissioners could attend
if they wished, at their own expense, as there was no City
funding for their attendance. Any Commissioner who was
interested in attending should contact Jackie Drasco at City Hall
to coordinate registration.
Commission•
Commissioner Vannorsdall indicated that he had received copies of
newspaper items from Mr. Rollin Sturgeon, a city resident. The
other Commissioners reported that they had also received the same
copies.
Chairman Mowlds stated that Mr. Harold Hermann, a City resident,
had provided copies of letters to the Commission that evening in
reference to his property, but not related to any item on the
agenda.
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APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
1. MINUTES OF AUGUST 2, 1995
Commissioner Alberio moved to accept
seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck.
Commissioners vannorsdall and Wang,
abstaining as they were not present
the wayfarers Chapel site.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
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the Minutes, as written,
Approved, {3-0-3}, with
and Chairman Mowlds
at the adjourned meeting at
2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 33 - Rev. "M" GRADING PERMIT NO.
1803; Wen -Jen Lee, 1 Burrell Lane. (DJ)
Associate Planner Jerex presented the Staff Report, stating that
the sample hold harmless agreement included with the Staff Report
was being reviewed by the City Attorney. She also stated that
the applicant's architect had requested approval for
reconfiguration of the garage, which would be necessary if the
sideyard setback for the tennis court were changed to 51, as the
Commission had requested, rather than the 1' setback shown on the
original plans.
Commissioner Alberio remarked that he believed the actual hold
harmless agreement, approved by the City Attorney, should have
been included with the Staff Report.
Chairman Mowlds suggested that on Page 4 of 4 of the proposed
Resolution, Condition No. 9 should read "A hold harmless
agreement...... shall be submitted to the City", rather than
"......submitted to the Planning Department".
Associate Planner Jerex said that this change would be made.
Chair Mowlds indicated that this was a continued public hearing
and called for the first speaker.
Mr. Tim Racisz (applicant's architect), 3480 Torrance Boulevard,
Torrance, CA 90503. Mr. Racisz was concerned that there would
be inadequate driveway space if the sideyard setback requirement
for the tennis court was 5' from the side property and requested
that the Commission approve movement of the garage further east.
He clarified that the sideyard setbacks would then be 10' on the
east and 5' on the west, which would meet Code minimums. He
stated that an alternative to this arrangement would be some
other reconfiguration of the garage.
Associate Planner Jerex added that the garage would need to be
pivoted slightly and that a very minor additional excavation
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would be required. She indicated the proposed change on her copy
of the plans.
Commissioner Alberio moved to close the public hearing, seconded
by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Alberio said that he did not oppose the
reconfiguration of the garage, but reiterated that he would
prefer to review the actual hold harmless agreement that would be
required.
Commissioner Whiteneck felt strongly that the hold harmless
agreement should include provisions for personal injury or loss
of life in addition to property damage.
Commissioner Alberio concurred with Commissioner Whiteneck.
Vice Chair Hayes asked if the sample hold harmless agreement
included in the Staff Report was typical of the ones used for
construction in the Landslide Moratorium Area.
Planning Administrator Petru said that it was.
Vice Chair Hayes wondered about the precedent that might be set
for projects in the future.
Planning Administrator Petru replied that she had spoken to the
City Attorney on that issue and the City Attorney felt that in
cases in which the Planning Commission or the City Council
believed a hold harmless agreement was prudent, and the reasons
could be articulated in the Resolution, a hold harmless agreement
could be required. However, Ms. Petru stressed that this would
not become general practice for all projects.
Vice Chair Hayes indicated that she found this acceptable.
Chairman Mowlds stated that he was satisfied with the tennis
court setback change and that he was confident that a hold
harmless agreement approved later by the City Attorney would
adequately protect the City.
Commissioner Alberio responded that he simply believed that the
Commission should be approving a complete project and he believed
this completeness required that the actual hold harmless
agreement should be finalized before the approval of the P.C.
Resolution.
Chairman Mowlds stressed that the Commission would be approving
the P.C. Resolution based on a requirement for a hold harmless
agreement, which would meet the satisfaction of the City Attorney
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and was agreeable to the applicant.
acceptable.
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He believed that this was
Commissioner Whiteneck repeated that he believed the hold
harmless agreement should include personal injury as well as
property damage, indicated that he had 18 years of experience
with the Los Angeles Harbor Department and that this element had
always been included in their documents.
Planning Administrator replied that Staff would make that
suggestion to the City Attorney.
Chair Mowlds added that if the City Attorney agreed, mention of
personal injury would be included in the hold harmless agreement.
Vice Chair Hayes moved to approve the project with that direction
to Staff to suggest to the City Attorney that the required hold
harmless statement include a provision for personal injury or
loss of life.
The motion was approved, (5-1), on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Vannorsdall, Wang, Whiteneck, Vice Chair
Hayes, and chairman Movids
NOES: Commissioner Alberio
Planning Administrator stated that P.C. Resolutions Nos. 95-31
and 95-32 would be signed that evening, with conditions of
approval, as modified by the commission.
Chairman Mowlds added that the 15 -day appeal period would begin
that evening.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (NO ITEMS)
NEW BUSINESS
3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 119 - Rev. "All - Clarification;
Air Touch, c/o Dean Brown, The Planning Consortium, 30940
Hawthorne Boulevard (City Hall) (DJ)
Vice Chair Hayes left the dais, recusing herself from hearing
this item as her home is within 3001 of the project site.
Associate Planner Jerex presented the Staff Report,astating that
Air Touch's current request was to revise its most recent
approval for antenna modifications approved by the City Council
(on appeal) in April 1994. She explained that those approved
modifications included the removal of five whip antennas, two of
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which would be replaced, as well the addition of eleven new
antennas of various sizes. Ms. Jerex stated that the five whip
antennas were still in place, but were scheduled to be removed
and that nine of the eleven antennas of varying sizes had been
installed. She said that, as the installation of nine of the
eleven antennas was in progress, Air Touch requested that two
additional whip antennas be allowed in lieu of two 5211 panel
antennas. Staff's recommendation was that a formal review
process was not necessary as the visual impact was not considered
to be significant and the emission levels would not be increased.
Associate Planner Jerex also reported that Staff had recently
fielded many requests from other interested cellular phone
companies. Staff felt that it would be wise to consider placing
a moratorium on future additions to the monopole, to allow Staff
time to evaluate visual impacts or potential health risks of such
an intensification of use.
Commissioner Alberio asked if, in light of the Code Enforcement
activity regarding this project and the revisions requested, a
new public hearing should be held.
Associate Planner Jerex reiterated that Staff did not feel that
the new request was significant enough to hold a full review, but
that if the Commission felt otherwise, the item could be
postponed and noticed for a public hearing.
Commissioner Alberio asked if the moratorium would have to be
approved by the City Council and Associate Planner Jerex said
that it would.
Chairman Mowlds, disclosing that he was a contractor, questioned
the fact that Air Touch performed antenna installation without a
building permit, left incomplete work, and provided no advance
notice or precautionary safety measures. He believed that it
would have been appropriate to shut down their operation, as
would be done with any other commercial structures.
Associate Planner Jerex clarified that, to be fair to the
applicant, there was a miscommunication between Air Touch and
their contractor and that, even though the Conditional Use Permit
allowed the modifications, a building permit was required for
each one of the changes. She added that after -the -fact permits
were obtained and that the situation was corrected now. she
stated that, in the future, non-compliance with the proposed
Conditions of Approval would cause the work to be stopped and the
City's Code Enforcement Department would take action.
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Commissioner Alberio believed that the miscommunication between
Air Touch and their contractor was an excuse, not a reason, and
believed that Air Touch was ultimately responsible.
Associate Planner suggested that Mr. Brown could speak to this
issue.
Chairman Mowlds anticipated that the comment from the applicant
would be that the City was trying to shut down cellular service,
contrary to Federal regulations. The Chairman said that it was
too easy to say it was the subcontractor's fault. He desired
that, if Staff experienced the same problems again, Air Touch
would have to start over again with the permit approval process.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that a hearing would be
required before the Planning Commission in order to revoke or
modify any prior approval.
Chairman Mowlds stressed that he was most concerned about safety
and that he wanted the City to be able to stop work on the
monopole, if necessary.
Planning Administrator Petru answered that the City's Building
Official had that ability now, if the work was being conducted in
an unsafe manner.
Mr. Dean Brown (applicant), 1111 Town & Country Road, #37,
Orange, CA 92668. Mr. Brown stated that he had reviewed the
Staff Report and that he agreed with the conditions of approval.
He apologized for the misunderstanding regarding previous
installations, in reference to notification and taking
precautionary measures. He explained that, when Air Touch first
installed the panel antennas, they did not plan to install the
one microwave dish that was approved with the last changeout, but
the Building Inspector said that he would not final the building
permit until that antenna was installed. In response, Air Touch
installed the dish without providing the required attachment
detail to the Inspector. Mr. Brown felt that this was what
created the initial misunderstanding. He added that,
approximately two to three days after the microwave dish was
installed, the proper permit was obtained.
Mr. Brown mentioned that Ms. Alicia Kiddy from Air Touch was
responsible for monitoring compliance with the conditions and she
was present to indicate that there would be compliance in the
future, especially regarding a 24-hour notice, roping off the
area, and cleaning up after the work was complete.
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Commissioner Alberio asked if the antennas would be transmitting
or receiving, and whether the proposed changes would increase the
emission levels.
Mr. Brown responded that the antennas transmitted and received,
and that there would be no change in emission level or the number
of channels.
Commissioner Alberio asked if the new antennas would be at a
lower elevation on the pole.
Mr. Brown said that the large 151 whip antennas which pointed up
were no longer necessary so the new antennas would be technically
located at a lower elevation on the monopole. He noted that
Southern California Edison had put up 151 whip antennas pointed
up. 'Air Touch's three whip antennas would be pointed down and
only -one small 51 whip antenna would be pointed up, which was
shown on Sheet No. 4 of the submitted drawings. Therefore, of
the three antennas pointed up, two of those were Edison's, which
were approved by the Planning Commission during the previous
year.
Mr. Brown introduced the Air Touch representative, Ms. Alicia
Kiddy. She stated that she had no comments.
Mrs. Lois Large, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mrs.
Larue objected to the lack of public notification for this item
because she felt that the residents on the hill above City Hall
would like to have commented on the visual impact. In addition,
she stated that she believed she had read that the cellular
telephone companies were attempting to gain complete freedom
throughout the State Legislature to keep cities from interfering
in their activities.
Chairman Mowlds replied that actually there would be less visual
impact from the proposed change because the new antennas would be
replacing large ones.
A discussion ensued between Mrs. Larue, Chairman Mowlds, and
Commissioner Alberio in which it was determined that there would
be fewer antennas, that they would be in a lower position on the
pole and that the majority of them would be pointed down, rather
than up. Mrs. Larue indicated that she was concerned for the
safety of the City Hall staff members.
Commissioner Alberio moved to adopt the P.C. Resolution approving
the installation of the new antennas, seconded by Commissioner
Vannorsdall. Approved, (5-0-1), with Vice Chair Hayes
abstaining.
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commissioner Alberio moved to request Staff to recommend to the
City Council that a moratorium be placed on placement of
additional antennas to allow time to study the issue, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved, (5-0-1), via Minute Order,
with vice chair Hayes abstaining.
Planning Administrator Petru indicated that P.C. Resolution No.
95-33 would be signed that evening.
Vice Chair Hayes returned to the dais.
4. Development Code Revision program clarification regarding
the designation of property lines by the Director.
Planning Administrator Petru stated that there was existing
language in the Development Code regarding property line
designation and that Staff and the City Attorney have developed
some language further clarifying that the Director's decision
shall be final in determining properly lines. The new language
will be included in the Development Code Revisions to be brought
back to the Commission for final review.
The consensus of the Commission was that this would be agreeable.
5. Completeness Review for projects that require a Negative
Declaration.
Chairman Mowlds stated that he had realized that it was probably
not possible to implement his suggestion.
Planning Administrator elaborated, stating that, in researching
the possibility of changing the procedure, Staff determined that
CEQA and the Permit Streamlining Act precluded modification of
the current method, even though the suggestion had seemed
initially like a good idea.
6. Provide staff with direction regarding the starting time for
the September 12, 1995 Planning Commission meeting.
Planning Administrator Petru reported that, although there had
been significant progress in the City Attorney/Staff analysis of
the Development Code Revisions, the entire document would not be
available for Planning Commission review on September 12, 1995.
She explained that ground was lost because the City Attorney's
availability had been limited recently and the Senior Planner had
been heavily involved with Redevelopment Agency projects on which
the City Council had placed a high priority. Ms. Petru stated
that the balance of the Code Revisions would be available at the
next meeting on September 26, 1995.
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Vice Chair Hayes expressed concern that
insufficient time for review before the
meeting if the copies were delivered the
the meeting.
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there would be
September 12, 1995
Thursday night before
Planning Administrator Petru reassured the Commission that review
should be simplified, as the substantial changes would be
highlighted and in the Staff Report, so that the entire document
would not have to be studied carefully.
Commissioner Wang asked how much time was anticipated to be
needed to complete the final review.
Chairman Mowlds speculated that at least two meetings would be
required.
Planning Administrator Petru agreed. She reiterated that she did
not believe an early starting time at the September 12, 1995
meeting was necessary because it was likely to otherwise be a
light agenda.
The consensus of the Commission was to begin the September 12,
1995 meeting at the regular starting time of 7:00 P.M.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff:
7. Pre -Agenda for the regular Planning Commission meeting of
Tuesday, September 12, 1995.
Commission• None
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
Mrs. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, noted
that Staff had included an article in the Staff Report for Item 3
indicating that the cellular telephone companies were attempting
to push through legislation denying local authorities the right
to control cellular phone antenna installations. She also stated
that her son had discovered a new landslide at Abalone Cove in
December 1992.
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ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Alberio moved to adjourn, seconded by Commissioner
Whiteneck. The motion carried, (6-0), and the meeting was duly
adjourned at 8:02 P.M.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission would be on
September 12, 1995.
(A.JDMIN#10 - MIN8.22)
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