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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
July 11, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 7 :02 P.M. by Vice Chair Hayes
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Code Enforcement
Officer Jon Pollard.
PRESENT: Commissioners Alberio, Ferraro, Wang, Whiteneck, and
Vice Chair Hayes.
ABSENT: Commissioner Vannorsdall and Chairman Mowlds (both
excused).
Also present were Planning Administrator Petru, Associate Planner
Silverman, Assistant Planner Klopfenstein, and Recording
Secretary Drasco.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Wang moved to approve the Agenda, as presented,
seconded by Commissioner Ferraro. Approved, (5-0) .
COMMUNICATIONS
Staff:
Planning Administrator Petru introduced the City's new Code
Enforcement Officer, Jon Pollard, summarizing his professional
background and welcoming him to the City.
Ms. Petru asked if there was anyone present for the Marriott
Senior Lifecare Facility Appeal, since a notice to that effect
had been sent in error. She noted that a subsequent, corrected,
notice was mailed indicating that the item was to be heard before
the City Council on July 18, 1995.
She stated that two newsletters had been provided to the
Commission regarding a California Supreme Court decision related
to toxic substances and insurance, and a United States Supreme
Court decision regarding the Endangered Species Act.
Planning Administrator Petru reported that two pieces of late
correspondence regarding Item No. 3 had been provided to members
of the Commission.
Commission:
Commissioner Ferraro indicated that she had received a phone call
from Dr. Hung, a neighbor of the applicant for Item No. 3 .
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
1. GRADING PERMIT NO. 1814; Walter and Darlene Carlos, 16
Saddle Road. (DJ)
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve the Consent Calendar, as
presented, seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved, (5-0).
CONTINUED BUSINESS
2. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 16 & 17 OF THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL
CODE (DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS); City of Rancho Palos
Verdes, Citywide. (JR)
Commissioner Ferraro moved to continue this item to September 12,
1995, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved, (5-0).
3. HEIGHT VARIATION 806 - APPEAL; Gus and Kimberly Mantikas, 60
Avenida Corona. (KK)
Commissioner Wang recused herself from considering this item and
left the dais.
Assistant Planner Klopfenstein presented the Staff Report,
indicating that, since the Planning Commission last considered
this project, the redesign of pro3ect including eliminating the
pitched roof and lowering the height of the entry porch to 151.
Staff recommended approval because it was felt that the redesign
addressed the concerns of the Commission. Assistant Planner
Klopfenstein noted that, on Page 5 of 5 of the draft P.C.
Resolution, Condition No. 12 should read 15' instead of 16' and
that the 15' was the height of the entry porch reflected on the
plans.
Vice Chair Hayes noted that the project now included an
additional 2' side yard setback beyond the original project
design.
Assistant Planner Klopfenstein agreed that the new home would be
7' from both side property lines.
Mr. Juan Kivotos (applicant's architect), 1323 N. Niagara Street,
Burbank, CA 91505. Mr. Kivotos had no comments other than to
state that the home was redesigned according to the Commission's
recommendations.
Commissioner Alberio asked Mr. Kivotos if he agreed with the
Staff Report.
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Mr. Kivotos said that he had done everything he could to
compromise and was willing to cooperate with the city.
Commissioner Alberio asked if he had seen the latest
correspondence regarding the project.
Mr. Kivotos said that he had not and Assistant Planner
Klopfenstein gave him a copy of the letters.
Ms. Jo Boem, 6 La Vista Verde. Ms. Boem stated that she
supported the project because the property owner was complying
with requirements and was willing to cooperate with the City.
Mr. Paul Mathews, 57 Avenida Corona. Mr. Mathews said that he
was interested to hear that the height of the roof had been
lowered, although he did not know the new proposed height and
asked the architect if he could give him that information.
Assistant Planner Klopfenstein clarified that the second floor
roof was not being lowered, only the height of the entry porch,
as shown on the photographs.
Mr. Mathews asked if the current silhouette framework on the
property was correct.
Assistant Planner Klopfenstein said that it was.
Mr. Mathews cited the Code, stating that the applicant was
required to consult with neighbors within a 5001 radius of the
subject property; and, said that this was not done, therefore,
depriving him of the opportunity to discuss the project or
respond to the applicant. Mr. Mathews also discussed
neighborhood compatibility and provided a document signed by
neighbors who agreed that the proposed project was not compatible
with the surrounding homes. Mr. Mathews was also concerned about
the view of residents as they walked through the neighborhood on
Avenida Corona.
Mr. John Hung, 4 La Vista Verde. Mr. Hung indicated that he was
speaking for his uncle, Dr. Jason Hung, who lived near the
subject property, but could not be present that evening. Mr.
Hung said that his uncle was opposed to the second story addition
because it would diminish his ocean view and breeze, and felt
that the proposed structure would be unsightly. Mr. Hung
provided photographs to illustrate the view impairment and said
that there would be less loss of view if the second story
addition was relocated to the south side of the building
footprint.
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Mr. Juan Kivotos (rebuttal). Mr. Kivotos said that the second
story had already been relocated from one side to the other, as
requested previously by the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Alberio moved to close the public hearing, seconded
by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved, (5-0).
Commissioner Alberio moved to uphold the appeal, per Staff's
recommendation, thereby approving the applicant's request,
seconded by Vice Chair Hayes.
Vice Chair Hayes remarked that the applicant had shown good faith
in complying with the Commission's suggestions. She further
stated that she did not believe that there was justification to
consider Dr. Hung's issue regarding view impairment, as trees
blocked more view than the proposed addition would.
Commissioner Ferraro noted that she was not present for the first
hearing and, if she had been, she would have opposed the
relocation of the second story because she felt the original plan
was better in this regard. She believed that a condition should
be added to trim the trees on the property to improve the
neighbor's view situation.
Planning Administrator Petru noted that there was already a
Condition of Approval requiring removal of mature trees in the
front yard of the property.
Vice Chair Hayes suggested that a condition be added that the 71
sideyard setback from the property line must be certified.
Planning Administrator Petru indicated that this condition would
be added, with the commission's concurrence.
A discussion ensued between Commissioner Ferraro and Planning
Administrator regarding future requests for additions in this
neighborhood in relationship to cumulative view impairment.
The motion passed (3-1-1), with Commissioner Ferraro dissenting
and commissioner Wang abstaining.
Planning Administrator noted that P.C. Resolution 95-26 would be
signed that evening and that there would be a 15 -day appeal
period.
Commissioner Wang returned to the dais.
4. VARIANCE NO. 392 AND GRADING PERMIT NO. 1819; Arthur Fein,
27520 Elmbridge Drive. (DJ)
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Staff's recommendation was to continue this item to September 12,
1995 to allow the applicant to submit additional information to
the Staff for review.
The applicant asked to make a statement.
Mr. Arthur Fein, 27520 Elmbridge Drive. Mr. Fein explained that
he did not realize that he needed to have City approval because
he was simply replacing a dilapidated deck. He noted that he was
willing to cooperate with the City to follow the correct
procedures for approval.
Commissioner Ferraro moved to continue the item to September 12,
1995, seconded by commissioner Wang. Approved, (5-0).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
5. EXTREME SLOPE PERMIT No. 40; Mr. and Mrs. Tosh Mihira, 21
Crestwind Drive. (FF)
Planning Administrator Petru presented the Staff Report,
explaining that staff's recommendation for approval was based
upon the fact that there is little buildable area on this lot;
that there would be no view impairment; and, that there would be
screening to make the new deck unobtrusive. She noted that there
was a photo board available.
Commissioner Alberio and Planning Administrator Petru discussed
the possibility of the deck being built near the pool. Ms. Petru
explained that the applicant had chosen the proposed location for
the deck, that a separate permit would be required for
construction near the pool, and that a cantilevered deck would be
more expensive in this area because caisson footings would be
required.
Commissioner Whiteneck moved to open the public hearing, seconded
by commissioner Ferraro. Approved, (5-0).
Mr. Patrick Killen (applicant's architect), 912 Manhattan Avenue,
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266. Mr. Killen stated that his design
had stayed with the allowable 61 cantilever and that he had
attempted to determine the best location on the property that
would be cost effective to build on. He added that the proposed
deck would rely on steel beams, rather than the slope, for
support.
Commissioner Alberio asked Mr. Killen about the possibility of
building a cantilevered deck near the pool.
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Mr. Killen said that he and the applicant favored the proposed
design, because of cost effectiveness and the ability to use
caissons required to re -build the family room addition.
Vice Chair Hayes asked Mr. Killen if he agreed with the proposed
Conditions of Approval. He indicated that the applicant agreed
with them.
Commissioner Ferraro moved to close the public hearing, seconded
by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved, (5-0).
Commissioner Alberio moved to approve the Staff Recommendation,
seconded by Commissioner Ferraro. Approved, (5-0).
Vice Chair Hayes noted that P.C. Resolution 95-26 would be signed
that evening and that there would be a 15 -day appeal period.
6. VARIANCE NO. 395; Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Chan, 5345 Bayridge
Road. (FF)
Commissioner Alberio moved to waive presentation of the Staff
Report, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved, (5-0).
Vice Chair Hayes opened the public hearing.
Mr. Thomas Chan (applicant), 5345 Bayridge Road, Rancho Palos
Verdes. Mr. Chan expressed his appreciation that the
Commissioners had visited his property. He said that he had read
the Staff Report and asked for clarification of the View
Covenant.
Planning Administrator Petru explained that a voter referendum
passed in 1989, Proposition M, added new rules regarding foliage
blocking view. It provided that any time a property owner
obtained a discretionary building permit, they would have the
option of trimming foliage on their property or filing a covenant
against the deed. The covenant is a permanent device to ensure
that foliage would not impair views in the future and requires
that the homeowner maintain the trees at a height of 16' or no
higher than the ridge line, whichever is lower.
Mr. Chan acknowledged that he understood.
Vice Chair Hayes asked him if he agreed to the other conditions.
Mr. Chan replied that the proposed Conditions of Approval were
acceptable.
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Mr. Alex Turlis (applicant's architect),
CA 90505. Mr. Turlis indicated that the
most cooperative and he agreed with their
that he and the Chan family were willing
Conditions of Approval.
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23311 Grant, Torrance,
Planning Staff had been
findings. He stated
to comply with the
Mr. Cyrus Irani, 5312 Bayridge, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Irani
reported to the Commission that he was speaking on behalf of the
Silver Spur Beautification Association, which was in favor of the
project.
Commissioner Ferraro moved to close the public hearing, seconded
by Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved, (5-0).
Commissioner Wang moved to accept Staff's recommendation and
adopt P.C. Resolution No. 95-28, seconded by Commissioner
Alberio. Approved, (5-0).
7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 185, VARIANCE NO. 388, GRADING PERMIT
NO. 1793, AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO. 676; Wayfarer's
Chapel, 5755 Palos Verdes Drive South. (TS)
Associate Planner Silverman presented the Staff Report, noting
that this property was located within the boundaries of the
Landslide Moratorium Area and that a request for a Moratorium
Exception was reviewed and approved in September 1994 by the City
Council. She clarified that this approval allowed the applicant
to submit the applications for development but did not indicate
that the City Council took a position for or against of the
project. Ms. Silverman then relayed a history of the property
relative to the prior visitor center and the landslide. She
explained that the required notice period for the draft Negative
Declaration for the project would not expire until after the next
regular Planning Commission meeting. Therefore, she stated that
the item could be continued to July 25, 1995 for additional
testimony, or to the August 8, 1995 meeting, at which time final
action could be taken on the proposed project.
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It was the informal consensus of the Commission that the item
should be heard at both of those meetings.
Vice Chair Hayes opened the public hearing.
Mr. Dean Andrews (applicant and project architect), 10664 Upland,
San Pedro, CA 90732. Mr. Andrews praised the Staff's
thoroughness in covering all the pertinent issues. He explained
that the abandoned Visitor Center on the property was unsightly
and that the temporary off-site location one-quarter mile from
the Chapel was often missed by visitors to the site. He believed
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that approval of the proposed changes, including improvements to
the existing amphitheater to accommodate outdoor weddings, would
provide better visitor information and services, and would
enhance the image of the Chapel.
Commissioner Alberio remarked to Mr. Andrews that there were
serious concerns about the project because of the location of the
Chapel in the City's Landslide Area and Mr. Andrews replied that
he was aware of the situation.
Ms. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Ms.
Larue reminded the Commission that the subject property was
moving constantly and she did not understand why anyone would
want to build an additional structure on this property. However,
she indicated that she had no objection to the project, as long
as the applicant would hold the City harmless. Ms. Larue also
detailed several minor errors in the Staff Report.
Commissioner Alberio moved to continue the public hearing to July
25, 1995, seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved, (5-0).
Associate Planner Silverman requested that the Commission provide
some direction to Staff, with regards to any concerns to be
addressed for the next meeting.
After a discussion of the issues, the Commission decided that it
would be appropriate for Staff and Commission to meet at the site
with the City Geologist prior to the August 8, 1995 meeting.
Planning Administrator suggested two possible dates, July 26 and
August 2, with the exact date to be determined later.
Commissioner Whiteneck asked if the City was observing the
movement of the landslide at this site.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that the City monitored
the landslide constantly using satellite technology and other
methods. However, she was not sure if there was a remote sensory
device on the subject property.
Associate Planner Silverman acknowledged that the site was within
the City's Landslide Moratorium and added that a Hold Harmless
Agreement was a standard condition for building in the moratorium
area.
Commissioner Ferraro asked if the new building would remain
sound.
Vice Chair Hayes replied that the City Geologist could comment on
that point during the proposed site visit.
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NEW BUSINESS
8. Review of a draft letter recommending that City Council
change the fee schedule for Tentative Parcel Maps from the
current flat fee to a trust deposit account. (CP)
The Commission reviewed the draft letter prior to the meeting and
it was approved, (5-0), and signed at the meeting by all the
Commissioners present. Chairman Mowlds signed the letter at City
Hall earlier that day and it was determined that Commissioner
Vannorsdall would be asked to sign the letter upon his return.
9. Discussion of payment of Appeal fees in conjunction with a
Fee Waiver Request. (CP)
Planning Administrator Petru stated that Commissioner Alberio had
raised this issue at the last meeting. She reported that the
City's Development Code required that an appeal be submitted in
writing, accompanied by a fee. However, recently a Fee Waiver
Request was submitted to the City Council in lieu of payment. A
discussion between Staff and the City Attorney determined that
this practice was not technically in conformance with the Code,
but it did comply with the intent of the Code, since the appeal
was not processed until the Council made a determination on the
Fee Waiver Request. In addition,this procedure eliminated the
time-consuming process of the Finance Department processing a
check and then possibly refunding it. The City Attorney
suggested that an alternative would be to receive the check and
hold it until the City Council made a decision and, if the Fee
Waiver was granted, the check could be returned to the applicant.
There was a consensus that the procedure of holding the check
seemed like an appropriate compromise, but that further study was
warranted.
In a related topic, Vice Chair asked about common situations in
which an applicant appealed a denial, redesigned the project, won
the appeal and received a full refund of the appeal fee. She
believed this was not warranted, because significant Staff time
was required in these cases.
Planning Administrator explained that the current practice of
refunding the fee when an appeal was upheld was based on the
concept that the appellant concept was that his was justified in
their action and, therefore, was entitled to the refund of the
appeal fee.
Vice Chair Hayes reiterated that this should not apply when the
original plan was redesigned, in order to be approved by the
Commission during the appeal hearing.
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Planning Administrator Petru suggested that a letter could be
drafted for Commission review at the next meeting regarding the
issue of payment of appeal fees when a Fee Waiver Request is
submitted. However, Ms. Petru suggested that the issue of appeal
fees in conjunction with a re -designed project could be discussed
when the Commission reviewed the final draft of the Development
Code Revision. The Commission concurred.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
Staff:
10. Pre -Agenda for the regular Planning Commission meeting of
Tuesday, July 25, 1995.
Commission:
None.
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
Ms. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, commented on the status of
the City's Code Enforcement program and on the new Code
Enforcement Officer.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Whiteneck moved to adjourn, seconded by Commissioner
Wang. The motion carried (5-0) and the meeting was duly
adjourned at 8:17 P.M.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission would be on
July 25, 1995.
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