PC MINS 19950214.15
APPROVED 3/28/95
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 7 03 P M , by Chairman Mowlds, at Hesse
Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard
ROLL CALL
Present. Commissioners Alberio, Ferraro, Vannorsdall,
Whiteneck, Vice Chair Hayes, and
Chairman Mowlds
Absent. Commissioner Wang
Also Present. Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement/
Commission Secretary Bernard,
Planning Administrator Petru,
Associate Planner Silverman, and
Assistant Planner Klopfenstein
FLAG SALUTE
The salute to the Flag was led by Chairman Mowlds
The following Agenda Item was discussed out of order
PUBLIC HEARING
8 VARIANCE NO. 348 - Mr. and Mrs. Phillip Dunlap
2845 San Ramon Drive
RECOMMENDATION
To allow a block wall to a maximum height of 42" within the
20'- o" front yard setback area and within the intersection
visibility triangle and a maximum of 6'- 0" in height at any
point (including pilasters) along the street -side property
line (behind the front setback area)
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Director Bernard briefly reviewed the request as well as staff's
recommendation (of record)
For Commissioner Vannorsdall, Assistant Planner Klopfenstein advised
that a property owner may construct a garden wall (i a retaining wall) 2' -11" in
height without the need of a Grading Permit
Mrs Elena Dunlap, applicant, 2845 San Ramon Drive, referenced her
letter (copies submitted to the Commissioners), in which she highlighted
concerns with regard to staff's recommendation to limit the proposed block wall
to 42" in height and to limit the length of the wall to 88'
Mr Joe Leimbach, 2803 San Ramon Drive (former President of the
Homeowners' Association), informed the Commissioners that the Association
has approved the applicants' request as submitted, noting that the proposed
block wall would add an aesthetically balanced appearance to the neighborhood
entryway
In response to Chairman Mowlds, Mr Leimbach clarified the homeowners'
desire to have the proposed wall (north side) aesthetically match the already
existing wall on the south side of San Ramon Drive
Because the existing wall on the south side is located on the uphill side of
Palos Verdes Drive East, Mr. Louis R. McCreight (current President of the
Homeowners' Association), 2763 San Ramon Drive, suggested that the
proposed wall shall be aesthetically adjusted in height considering this wall will
be located on the downhill side of Palos Verdes Drive East
In an effort to address the applicants' desires to mitigate noise and
privacy concerns, Ms Nancy Bolton, 2757 San Ramon Drive, encouraged the
Commissioners to approve the request as submitted
Echoing Ms. Bolton's comments, Mr Paul Crane, 2837 San Ramon Drive,
spoke in support of the applicants' request as submitted
In response to Chairman Mowlds, Mrs Dunlap confirmed that if the
requested block wall were approved, there would be no objection to utilizing the
wall as a community entry wall and to placing a neighborhood logo on it at a
future time
Vice Chair Hayes suggested, based on a recommendation included in the
staff report, the imposition of a condition of approval, requiring a 1' setback for
landscaping Chairman Mowlds suggested the imposition of a condition to grant,
in the near future, the Homeowners' Association the ability to utilize the block
wall as a neighborhood entry wall
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MOTION: Vice Chair Hayes moved to close the public hearing The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Alberio There being no objection,
Chairman Mowlds so ordered.
MOTION: Commissioner Albeno moved to approve Variance No 348 as
conditioned, including findings of fact set forth by staff, and adding the following
conditions of approval
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o that a 1' setback shall be required for landscaping,
o that the newly proposed wall may be utilized for
community signage to identify the neighborhood
at a future time
The motion was seconded by Vice Chair Hayes and roll call vote of those
present reflected unanimous approval (Commissioner Wang absent)
Chairman Mowlds clarified that the approved wall shall be of the same
height as of the already existing wall, across the street, on San Ramon Drive
Chairman Mowlds apprised the audience of the 15 -day appeal period to
the City Council
The Commission returned to regular agenda order at this time
COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
Director/Secretary Bernard noted that Commissioner Wang had informed
staff that she would not be able to attend this evening's meeting due to illness
Because of the loss of a staff person, Director/Secretary Bernard
introduced Michaela Ballreich who will be assisting Recording Secretary Drasco
in the taking of the minutes of the meeting
1. NEW AGENDA FORMAT
In order to maintain consistency with the City Council format, Mr Bernard
advised that Arabic numerals will now be used versus Roman numerals
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2. LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES PLANNERS INSTITUTE
Director/Secretary Bernard advised that the City Council has adjusted the
Planning Department's budget to allow all Planning Commissioners to attend the
upcoming Planners' Institute in Monterey
3. SOUTHWEST AREA PLANNING COUNCIL MEETING {SWAPC)
It was noted for the benefit of the Commissioners that this monthly
luncheon will be Thursday, February 16, 1995, and that Commissioner Ferraro
will be attending.
4. OTHER
Director/Secretary Bernard referenced a note received from
Assemblyman Kuykendall's office, in which he provided information about his
local Long Beach office
B. COMMISSION
Commissioner Alberio advised that tentative reservations have been
made at the Long Beach Port for the Commission's upcoming retreat scheduled
for April 2, 1995, noting that more information will be forthcoming
CONSENT CALENDAR
5. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 10, 1995
Commissioner Ferraro requested that pages 14 and 28 be amended,
respectively, to read as follows "Mr de Carbonnel " and "Mr Myers said that
they "
Vice Chair Hayes requested that the following addition be made to page
17- "Commissioner Alberio pointed out that whether or not an individual makes
a profit is not the issue, a business is a business "
Mrs. Nancy Moore, 6344 Villa Rosa Drive, addressed her statements
noted on page 24, reiterated that the proposed expansion was too excessive,
that although the lot is zoned residential, it is being used as if it were zoned
commercial, that the proposal does not meet the spirit of the General Plan, and
that the majority residents echo these concerns With regard to her husband's
comments also noted on page 24, Mrs Moore advised that the word regularly
should be stricken from the 10th line of his paragraph Referencing Ms.
Zuleback's comments noted on page 26, Mrs Moore advised that Ms Zuieback
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had expressed objection to all "maybe" answers in the Environmental
Assessment Checklist
MOTION: Commissioner Alberio moved for the approval of the
January 10, 1995, Planning Commission minutes as amended The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck and there being no objection, Chairman
Mowlds so ordered
CONTINUED BUSINESS
6. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 16 & 17 OF THE CITY'S
MUNICIPAL CODE (DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS); CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Planning Commission continue the
public hearing to February 28, 1995, for discussion of certain
outstanding Development Code Revision issues related to
implementation of the revised Development Code.
Director/Secretary Bernard briefly reviewed the request and the
recommendation to continue (as per staff report)
MOTION: Vice Chair Hayes moved to continue this public hearing to
February 28, 1995 The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ferraro and
voice vote of those present reflected unanimous approval (Commissioner Wang
absent)
Chairman Mowlds confirmed that the Planning Commission will not be
making a final decision with regard to this issue until all City Attorney comments
have been presented
To ensure the Commission can act appropriately, Director/Secretary
Bernard noted that the Mayor echoes Chairman Mowlds' comment
7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 182, SIGN PERMIT NO. 720,
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO. 667 - MR. AND MRS.
WILLIAM MYERS, 28103 HAWTHORNE BOULEVARD (MOBIL)
RECOMMENDATION
To adopt P C Resolution No 95- , adopting the Mitigated
Negative Declaration and Mitigation Monitoring Program
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prepared in association with Environmental Assessment
No 667,
2 To adopt P C Resolution No. 95- , approving Conditional
Use Permit No 182, with conditions,
3 To approve Sign Permit No 720, via Minute Order, with
conditions
Director/Secretary Bernard reviewed the request as well as staff's
recommendation (of record)
Chairman Mowlds commended Associate Planner Silverman on a fob well
done with regard to this case
Associate Planner Silverman clarified that although the Commission,
under the Conditional Use Permit, denied the sale of alcoholic beverages for at
least six months (from the issuance of certificate of occupancy or final building
inspection), the environmental findings, with respect to the sale of alcohol, found
no significant impacts, therefore, the findings of approval for the sale of alcoholic
beverages will remain in the resolution for the Mitigated Negative Declaration It
was noted that the sale of alcoholic beverages could be approved by the
Planning Commission, if so desired, at a future date After review of geologic
files, Ms Silverman advised that the proposed expansion will not create any
archeological impacts to this particular site
Associate Planner Silverman proceeded with a detailed overview of the
Conditional Use Permit requirements, findings, and conditions of approval (as
per staff report).
Since the preparation of the staff report, it was noted that staff received
additional comments with regard to the request (copies provided to the
Commissioners)
With regard to the conditions of approval for the Conditional Use Permit,
Ms Silverman provided additional clarification and made the following
amendments
Condition No. 13 -- that the maintaining and emptying of
trash cans shall be conducted by the landowner or operator
of the Mobil station,
Condition No 20(e) -- that the minimum width of the landscape
buffer should be reduced to 5' from 8', that landscaping
shall include shrubbery with thorns to further eliminate
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loitering and unwanted conduct, and that the last sentence
should be stricken
For Commissioner Alberio, Associate Planner Silverman confirmed that
liquor licenses are issued by the State Department of Alcoholic Beverages
Control pending City approval
With regard to the resolution for the approval of a Conditional Use Permit,
Vice Chair Hayes requested that Condition No 13 be amended as follows
"Trash enclosures, of a shall be maintained to prevent offensive odors and
shall be emptied on a regular basis " With regard to the resolution for the
adoption of the Mitigated Negative Declaration, Vice Chair Hayes requested that
the last paragraph on page 1 be amended to eliminate the duplicated sentence
"which provide automotive repair services in addition to the sale of gasoline
stations "
In response to Commissioner Ferraro's comment, Condition No. 10 was
amended as follows "No deliveries, with the exception of gasoline, are permuted
to the site between hours of 9.00 P M to 6 00 A M daily With regard to
Condition No 14 (inspection of property), Associate Planner Silverman advised
that the landowner/operator is required to inspect directly in front of the property
similar to what is required of a residential property owner
For Commissioner Ferraro, Associate Planner Silverman provided
additional clarification with regard to Condition No 20(b), noted that the two
proposed queen palms will be exempt from the 16' height limitation; and advised
that the palms will not create any significant view obstruction
Mr Bill Myers, applicant, 28103 Hawthorne Boulevard (Mobil), addressed
proposed Condition No 8 (to provide a minimum of one restroom for men and
women) and questioned as to why this Condition was revised from a unisex
restroom to provide one restroom each for men and women In response to Mr
Myers, Chairman Mowlds advised that in an effort to maintain the best interest of
the citizens of Rancho Palos Verdes, the revised condition was added by staff at
the request of one or more of the Planning Commissioners
Vice Chair Hayes expressed her objection to a unisex restroom Because
Mr Myers was given the full amount of space he requested, she felt he could
give the ladies a separate restroom
For Mrs Nancy Moore, 6344 Villa Rosa Drive, Commissioner Alberto
advised that the Planning Commissioners may not impose a condition of
approval to this project which would restrict the applicant from readdressing the
sale of alcoholic beverages at a future time In response to Mrs. Moore's
suggestion, Director/Secretary Bernard noted that if the Planning Commission
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were to consider including parking spaces in the total square footage, every
residential structure in the City would be non -conforming because of its
excessive floor area ratio (FAR), therefore, such a condition should not be
imposed on this proposal Mrs Moore requested that a condition be imposed
prohibiting any future expansions, that the hours of operation be amended to
reflect the hours depicted in the guidelines of the Overlay District, that the hours
of operation for the sale of propane be kept to a minimum, that the hours of
delivery shall not be earlier than 9 00 A M , that the proposed queen palms could
potentially impact views, that there be fewer parking spaces and more
landscaping, and that trash cans be situated in appropriate locations
For Commissioner Ferraro, Planning Administrator Petru advised that the
Overlay District contains guidelines which may be increased or decreased based
on the individual situation such as increasing the proposed hours of operation
She noted that the majority of the Commissioners supported the expansion of
the hours of operation so that the hours match those of the existing use across
the street (7 -Eleven)
Director/Secretary Bernard further advised that any time the
Commissioners consider the approval of a Conditional Use Permit, for any
property in the City, it allows the Commissioners the opportunity to be more or
less restrictive than the existing Code requirements
Considering other businesses throughout the City follow the same hours
for deliveries as those proposed, Chairman Mowlds noted that he would find it
unusual if the Commission were to limit those hours for Mr Myer's business
With regard to limiting the hours in which to sell propane, Chairman Mowlds
questioned the need considering such sale does not create additional noise
MOTION: Vice Chair Hayes moved to adopt Resolution No 95-04 as
amended (see page 6) to adopt the Mitigated Negative Declaration The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall and roll call vote of those present
reflected unanimous approval (Commissioner Wang absent)
MOTION: Commissioner Albeno moved to adopt Resolution No 95-05 as
modified (see page 7) to approve Conditional Use Pemit No 182 The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall and roll call vote of those present
reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Ferraro who voted no
(Commissioner Wang absent)
MOTION: Commissioner Vannorsdall moved to approve Sign Permit
No 720, via Minute Order The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Whiteneck and roll call vote of those present reflected approval with the
exception of Commissioner Ferraro who voted no (Commissioner Wang absent)
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Chairman Mowlds apprised the audience of the 15 -day appeal period to
the City Council
PUBLIC HEARINGS
8. VARIANCE NO. 348
Discussed earlier; see pages 1-3
NEW BUSINESS
No items
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
STAFF
9. PRE -AGENDA FOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OF FEBRUARY 28, 1995
For information only as per written material
COMMISSION
Staff was requested to either provide an oral or written report with regard
to the following projects
- Salvation Army
- H M D I (subregion 1)
- TransAmerica
- Ocean trails
- Analysis on the City operating as a bedroom community
only and permitting no businesses
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non- aqenda items)
A. Ms Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, elaborated, in detail, on her
research as to who contributed to the Kuykendall/Brooks campaigns, advised
that she has this information available to those interested, and noted that she
will be pursuing the matter and will be providing additional information at a future
time
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: At 8 25 P M , Commissioner Alberio moved, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall, to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting
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