PC MINS 19940823APPROVED
9/13/94
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
August 23, 1994
The meeting was called to order at 7:09 P.M., by Chairman Alberio
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Vice Chairman Mowlds.
PRESENT: Commissioners Hayes, Vannorsdall, Wang, Whiteneck, Vice
Chairman Mowlds and Chairman Alberio
ABSENT: Commissioner Ferraro (excused)
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and code
Enforcement Bernard, Planning Administrator Petru, Associate
Planner Silverman, Associate Planner Jerex, and Assistant Planner
de Freitas.
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A. STAFF
1 Director Bernard reported that on August 16, 1994, the
City Council considered the update on the Development
Code Revision process and the schedule for the
continuation of the process. They were satisfied with the
progress and the schedule.
2. For Item VIA (Height Variation No. 791 -Appeal) six late
letters of support were received and for Item VIIB
(Conditional Use Permit No. 180) one late letter of
support was received from the Portuguese Bend Community
Association.
3. With regard to Item VIB (Ocean Trails) Planning
Administrator Petru indicated that two stapled packages
of late correspondence had been distributed to the
Commission. The first was a memorandum from Commissioner
Vannorsdall regarding the location of the golf course
maintenance facility. The second package included a
letter from Mr. Lyle Quatrochi, discussing clubhouse
height issues; comments from the California Coastal
Commission regarding the project, most particularly the
location of the clubhouse; and correspondence from the
California Native Plant Society regarding habitat issues
on the site.
B. COMMISSION
1. Chairman Alberio mentioned that there was an upcoming
League of California Cities convention in Long Beach and
Staff reported that there was no departmental budgeted
funds for the Commissioners' attendance at that specific
conference. Director Bernard explained that there were
still funds available for several Commissioners,
attendance at the League's Planning Commissioners
Institute later in the fiscal year. Commissioner Hayes
asked if an individual commissioner could attend and pay
his/her own fee, and Director Bernard stated that was
correct.
2. Chairman Alberio suggested re -arranging the agenda to
hear the Continued Business items at the end of the
agenda and the other Commissioners agreed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Planning Commission Minutes of July 26, 1994.
Commissioner Wang pointed out that on Page 1, under Communications,
Late Correspondence, the word "not" should be removed from the
phrase "not on this evening's agenda".
Commissioner Hayes suggested that on Page 4, at the end of
Paragraph 6, the word "any" should be deleted from the phrase
"increase any visual impacts".
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked that on Page 8, additional clarification
be added to the next to the last sentence in the fifth paragraph
which read: "He supported giving Staff more discretion in reviewing
certain permits".
Commissioner Hayes moved to approve the July 16, 1994 Minutes, as
amended, seconded by commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (6-0).
B. GENERAL PLAN ANNUAL REPORT: Citywide. (TS)
Commissioner Hayes moved to waive the reading of the Staff Report,
seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Hayes asked that, on Page 19, Paragraph 8, the word
"insure" be changed to "ensure" for consistency throughout the
document.
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to accept the report as proposed,
seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds congratulated the Staff on their preparation
of this report and pointed out that this report provided an
overview of activities in the City for a whole year.
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Commissioner Hayes noted that the report would be a valuable
reference in the future.
Director Bernard expressed his appreciation of the Commissioners'
comments and noted that most of the thanks should go to Terry
Silverman, Associate Planner, who performed most of the work. He
added that this was something the City had been remiss in doing
over the few years and that Ms. Silverman's efforts would mean that
only a annual checklist would be needed in the future to maintain
this useful report.
C. GRADING PERMIT NO. 1737• Mr. and Mrs. Cullen, 5 Diamonte
Lane. (FF)
Vice Chairman Mowlds recused himself from hearing this item because
of his acquaintance with Mr. And Mrs. Cullen.
Commissioner Vannorsdall moved to accept the Staff's
Recommendation, seconded by Commissioner Hayes. Approved (5-0-1),
with Vice Chairman Mowlds abstaining.
Chairman Alberio mentioned that there was a 15 -day appeal period
from that evening in which any interested party may appeal this
decision to the City Council.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. COASTAL PERMIT NO. 125 VARIANCE NO. 379• Mr. and Mrs.
Greg Gawlik, 16 Seacove Drive. (FF)
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to waive the reading of the Staff
Report, seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Mowlds moved to continue this item to September 27,
1994, seconded by Commission Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 180• Mr. and Mrs. Stanley
Clarke, 10 Peppertree Drive. (FF)
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved the reading of the Staff Report,
seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Open the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Mr. Stanley Clarke, applicant, 10 Peppertree Drive, Rancho Palos
Verdes. Mr. Clarke informed the Planning Commission that he was
present to answer questions. There were no questions.
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Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Close the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to accept the Staff's Recommendation and
noted that this project had received the approval of the Portuguese
Bend Homeowners Association, seconded by Commissioner Hayes.
Approved (6-0).
Chairman Alberio mentioned that there was a 15 -day appeal period
from that evening in which any interested party may appeal the
Commission's decision to the City Council.
C. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 39• Ridgegate Homeowners Association,
6016 Ridgegate Court. (DJ)
Commissioner Hayes moved to waive the reading of the Staff Report,
seconded by Vice Chairman Mowlds. Approved (6-0).
Since there were no speakers, Chairman Alberio opened and the
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hayes pointed out that, on page 3, just before
subsections "A" and "B", the word "that" should be deleted.
Commissioner Hayes moved to recommend approval of this item to the
City Council, seconded by Vice Chairman Mowlds. Approved (6-0).
Director Bernard reported that the date for review by the City
Council would be September 20, 1994.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 791 - APPEAL; Dr. and Mrs. Ben
Naghi, 60 Rockinghorse Road. (TS)
Associate Planner Silverman presented the Staff Report. At the
June 28, 1994 meeting, the Planning Commission continued this item
and directed the landowner and the architect to revise the project
to address the concerns of neighborhood compatibility and, in
particular, to reduce the bulk and mass of the proposed addition.
Ms. Silverman detailed the activities on this project since that
time and informed the Commission that Staff continued to recommend
denial of the project but described some design alternatives which
staff could support.
Mr. Tom Blair, architect for the applicant, 2785 Pacific Coast
Highway, Suite E149, Redondo Beach, CA 90277. Mr. Blair recalled
that concerns at the last meeting were not about view impairment,
square footage or height, but more about the appearance of bulk of
the structure looking at the northeast elevation. He explained
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that the Planning Commission suggested moving the second story back
at least five feet in order to reduce the mass on the corner of the
house that is seen driving up Rockinghorse Road. In the revised
drawings, they had moved this corner of the house back 16 feet.
Other reductions were made that were not suggested by the Planning
Commission, but the owner is happier with the overall design. Mr.
Blair added that a number of letters of support were received from
neighbors.
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked Mr. Blair to explain the new drawings on
which a dotted line indicated the previously submitted plan and he
did so, pointing out the corner of the house which had been set
back.
Dr. Ben Naghi, applicant, 60 Rockinghorse Road, Rancho Palos
Verdes. Dr. Naghi informed the Planning Commission that he and his
wife (who could not be present because of illness) wanted to create
a house which was compatible with the neighborhood, as well as
being comfortable for their family. He explained that they had
visited as many neighbors as possible and everyone they talked to
had been in support when they showed them the new drawings, with
the exception of the residents at 54 and 55 Rockinghorse Road. In
addition, he had two more letters of support from neighbors which
had not yet been submitted to Staff. Dr. Naghi mentioned that the
residents at 54 Rockinghorse Road were renters and that Mr. and
Mrs. Butts at 55 Rockinghorse Road were mainly objecting to
obstruction of their view of the mountains. Dr. Naghi noted that
the mountains were visible only four to five times per year, if at
all, and that some of the photographs Associate Planner Silverman
had taken indicated that the top of the proposed addition would be
barely noticeable from Mr. and Mrs. Butts' home.
Mr. Jim Butts, 55 Rockinghorse Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr.
Butts pinpointed the location of his home in relationship to the
subject property and said that he was opposed to the proposed
addition in terms of size and bulk. However, his prime objection
was that it would significantly block his home's view of the Santa
Ana mountains, as well as a view of the Long Beach harbor. He
explained that the harbor view was currently blocked by a tree
which had grown up in the last year, but the owner of the tree
would agree to trim it. If this project were approved, the view
would be gone permanently.
Chairman Alberio confirmed with Planning Administrator Petru that
the mountain view was not a protected view and Ms. Petru said that
was correct, but that the Long Beach harbor view was protected,
even though it was currently blocked by foliage.
Commissioner Hayes asked Mr. Butts if the owner of the tree had
actually agreed to trim it.
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Mr. Butts replied that his neighbors were on vacation, but said
that they would be willing to discuss the subject when they
returned. He explained that they had trimmed their trees in the
past for views and he felt confident they would be cooperative this
time, as well.
Commissioner Vannorsdall inquired if Mr. Butts was opposed to any
second story addition on the subject property.
Mr. Butts responded that he was not entirely opposed to a second
story addition, but preferred that this particular addition be
scaled back on the southeast end to protect his views.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked Mr. Butts if he was willing to
compromise and he said he was.
Chairman Alberio wondered if privacy was an issue and Mr. Butts
said it was, as the windows from the proposed addition would look
down into the family room of his home.
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Close the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Hayes noted that, although she not present at the June
28, 1994 Planning commission meeting when this project was first
discussed, she felt comfortable participating because she had
visited the site, listened to the tapes, and read the minutes and
reports pertaining to this item.
Vice Chairman Mowlds was not in favor of reducing the size of the
second story by expanding the first floor of the residence since
this would increase lot coverage and crowd the setbacks. He
mentioned that the original house was built far from the setbacks,
which was to be encouraged, and that the applicant had followed
direction from the Planning commission to provide significant
articulation. However, he felt that possible invasion of privacy
from windows on the proposed addition should be discussed further.
Associate Planner Silverman replied that Staff was not necessarily
encouraging the applicant to build out to the setback area, but it
was a possible alternative. Other, more preferred, options for
reducing bulk would be to eliminate two vaulted areas or to remove
the roof from a second floor deck adjacent to the master bedroom.
She added that two pieces of correspondence, in opposition to the
project, had been received from the property owner of 54
Rockinghorse, which is a rental property.
Vice Chairman Mowlds was not in favor of removing the vaulted
areas, as a solution to reducing bulk and mass, because the
structure could become sterile and lose the character the homeowner
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Chairman Alberio asked Associate Planner Silverman if the
applicants' plan complied with the Code's open space and setback
requirements and she said that they were in compliance.
Commissioner Vannorsdall suggested that the wood trellis be taken
off the second story deck to further reduce bulk of the addition.
He also encouraged further discussion of the window/privacy issue.
Vice Chairman Movlds moved, seconded by commissioner Hayes to Re -
Open the Public Hearing. Approved (6-0).
Mr. Tom Blair was recalled to the podium by Chairman Alberio who
asked him if he was willing to install opaque glass in the windows
in question and remove the trellis from the upper deck. Mr. Blair
indicated that he would be willing to make this change and noted
that the windows are for the entry or bathroom to provide light and
ventilation, and that the branches of a large tree near the upper
level deck will perform the same function as the trellis.
Commissioner Hayes asked the distance between the Naghi and Butts
residences and Mr. Blair replied that he was not sure, but that it
was a long distance. Commissioner Hayes agreed and felt that
binoculars would be needed to invade the neighbor's privacy.
Mr. Blair commented that other factors which protect privacy
include the isolated location provided by the generous setbacks and
large trees.
Dr. Ben Naghi —returned to the podium and showed Planning
Administrator Petru photographs from his roof toward Mr. and Mrs.
Butts' home, indicating that their house could barely be seen from
that perspective.
Mr. Jim Butts returned to the podium to state that the windows and
privacy issue were not his main objection and repeated that he was
concerned about the loss of his views.
Vice Chairman Mowlds walked to the podium and showed Mr. Butts a
series of photographs provided by the applicant. Together, they
made determinations of locations for each photograph, when
possible, but Mr. Butts indicated that these photographs did not
illustrate his view problem and provided photographs of his own.
Associate Planner Silverman advised that there was no way of
verifying that evening whether or not any of the photographs
submitted by either party were taken from the viewing area as
defined by the Development Code. She emphasized that the location
from which the photograph were taken could be extremely significant
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when using photographs to analyze the potential view impacts.
Vice Chairman Mowlds and Mr. Butts then labeled Mr. Butts'
photographs.
Commissioner Hayes moved to Close the Public Hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Wang. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds passed the photographs among the other
Commissioners. He pointed out that Mr. Butts' photographs labeled
"C" through "E" were taken from inside Mr. and Mrs. Butts' house or
from the edge of their patio and noted that the view of the
temporary frame silhouette on Dr. and Mrs. Naghi's home in the
background gave an indication of the view impact and the distance
between the two residences. Mr. Mowlds' opinion was that the
distance was great enough to have little effect on privacy.
vice Chairman Mowlds moved to accept the applicant's proposed
drawing as shown with the condition that the trellis and the roof
be :removed from the upper deck and that opaque glass be used in all
windows facing the residences at 54 Rockinghorse Road and 55
Roc:kinghorse Road, seconded by Commissioner Hayes. Approved (6-0).
Planning Administrator Petru informed the Commission that a P.C.
Resolution for approval of the revised project would be brought
back to the September 13, 1994 meeting.
Chairman Alberio added that the 15 -day appeal period would begin
after the Planning Commission has adopted the P.C. Resolution at
the next meeting.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
Recessed at 8:06 P.M. and reconvened at 8:20 P.M.
B. REVISIONS TO VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NOS. 50666 AND
50667, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NOS. 162 AND 163, GRADING
PERMIT NO. 1541, ADDENDUM NO. 3 TO EIR NO. 36, AND (NEW)
VARIANCE NO. 380 (OCEAN TRAILS); Palos Verdes Land
Holdings Company, Inc. and Zuckerman Building Company,
Coastal Subregions 7 and 8. (CP)
Planning Administrator Petru stated that the Staff Report with the
bulk of the P.C. Resolutions for the Ocean Trails project were
delivered to the Planning Commission on the Saturday before the
meeting. They were missing one set of Conditions of Approval for
the Residential Planned Development associated with Conditional Use
Permit No. 162 and this document was distributed before tonight's
meeting. Ms. petru noted that there had been some additions to the
P.C. Resolutions since their distribution to this Commission and
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that she would review these changes later. She also mentioned that
she had received comments on the Variance Resolution from City
Attorney Carol Lynch and these revisions had been distributed this
evening also. Planning Administrator Petru introduced Mr. Quinn
Barrow, a representative from the City Attorney's office, who was
assisting in Carol Lynch's absence, and thanked him for attending
the meeting. Ms. Petru discussed the late correspondence mentioned
at the beginning of the meeting and a memo dated August 23, 1994
from Commissioner Vannorsdall regarding the location of the golf
course maintenance facility.
Planning Administrator Petru then described, in detail, the changes
to the P.C. Resolutions, as follows:
CUP 162 - Conditions of Approval
Page 2 of 13, Permit Expiration and Completion Deadline: This
condition was inadvertently omitted from the original project,
therefore, Condition C.1 is being added, which states that this
Conditional Use Permit expires two years from the date that the
Coastal Commission takes final action on this project. This is
consistent with language found in the other Conditions of Approval
for the golf course (Conditional Use Permit No. 163) and the two
vesting tentative tract maps.
Page 4, Conditions F.1c and F.1d, Tract Fencing Plan: The
requirements for fencing within the rear yard and street side
setback areas were modified, based on the new lot configurations in
each tract.
Page 6, Condition R.1, Common Open Space Bonds: This section was
not changed except to list for each tract those lots which will be
used in calculating the minimum 30% common open space requirement.
Page 7, Condition L.2, CC&R's: Staff added to the legal agreements
and documents necessary to establish the Homeowners Association,
the dedication of the common open space lots, which had previously
not been specifically mentioned.
Page 10, Conditions P.1 and P.2, Setbacks: Staff modified these
conditions so that the sideyard setback requirements were tied to
lot size, for example, the most stringent sideyard setback
requirements were put on the largest lot for both tracts. Also,
for Tract No. 50667, the front yard setbacks were decreased from
35" to 2511, for several lots that would have a very narrow lot
depth.
Page 12, Condition 5.6, Heights: Since the last hearing, Staff
received several calls from landowners in the Seaview tract who
were concerned about the increase in the height of the clubhouse
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and the fact that, even though the higher clubhouse might not block
the views from the homes in Seaview, it would definitely affect
some of the views within the tract, particularly Lots 6, 7, and 8.
Once the developer sold these lots, the owners would seek a
Conditional Use Permit revision to increase the approved ridge
height of their lot in order to gain a view over the clubhouse or
the other homes in front of them who had increased their ridge
heights. To preclude that, Staff crafted Condition No. 6 to
prohibit the application for a Conditional Use Permit revision to
increase the approved ridge height and to require covenants to be
placed on the single family lots within both tracts, so that future
landowners are put on notice through their deeds that the maximum
heights have already been established for this tract.
Variance Resolution
Clubhouse Height: Since the last meeting, Staff has had
discussions with the developer and they have agreed to lower the
height of the clubhouse by 2'. Now they are requesting a 161
height increase, rather than an 18, increase, over the 301 height
limit, for architectural features, such as the stairway tower and
the chimneys. Therefore, the Resolution was modified accordingly.
Section 1, Paragraphs 1 and 2: This section was expanded by two
paragraphs to include findings regarding the Addendum Environmental
Impact Report. Planning Administrator Petru asked that the same
language be included in each of the six other Resolutions before
the Planning Commission to explain why an Addendum EIR was
appropriate in this case and why it was consistent with the
requirements of CEQA.
Section 1, Paragraph 3: The last sentence was revised to reference
the previous City Council and Planning Commission actions on the
environmental documents prepared for this project.
Section 2: A section was added stating that, although there are
other sites in the Coastal Zone which are zoned for or allow
visitor -serving uses, in particular Long Point or in Subregion 1,
which have more favorable geologic conditions than the project
site, neither of those properties are large enough to accommodate
an 18 -hole golf course, residential tract, and public open space.
Therefore, there are physical constraints on the property which
create special circumstances not found on similar properties.
Section 4: This section originally discussed the visual impacts of
increasing the height of the clubhouse only as it affected the lots
within the tract. It has been expanded to include the finding
that, even at the increased height, the highest point of the
clubhouse is still below the elevation of the proposed homes
parallel to Palos Verdes Drive South.
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Section 7: This section was modified to include not only the
maximum downslope height of the structure, but also the maximum
upslope height, for additional clarity.
Regarding Section 7, Vice Chairman Mowlds asked if the 381
downslope height was measured from the grade adjacent to the lowest
foundation and if that was in accordance with the developers new
plan to lower the clubhouse height by 21.
Planning Administrator Petru said yes and added that this height is
consistent with the developer's current drawings, which were
reviewed by the Commission.
Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50666 - Conditions of Approval
Condition L.16, Trails: Staff had originally indicated that there
would be two trails going down either side of the clubhouse
structure in order to connect the public roadway with the *park.
The new suggestion is to extend the trail to form a loop around
Halfway Point Park to offset the elimination of the Mariposa Lily
Point trail in the West Bluff Preserve Area, due to the presence of
sensitive plant species.
Condition L.17, Trails: Originally the Coastal Commission had
required that the trail down to the shoreline from Half Way Point
Park be handicapped accessible. After it was discovered that a
significant amount of grading would be required to accomplish this,
resulting in damage to the bluff face and habitat areas, it was
suggested a loop trail around Hole 18 be provided as an
alternative. However, the developer's engineer discovered that
there is too much of a grade change to meet State handicap
accessible requirements. Therefore, Condition L.17 has been
modified to create a trail on the northern side of Hole 18 to be
handicapped accessible to the greatest extent possible. At the
terminus, when the grade becomes too steep, there would be a shaded
rest stop and anyone using it for handicapped purposes could then
turn around at that point and proceed back to Half Way Point Park.
Condition L.18# Trails: This is a new condition because Staff had
forgotten to include a 61 wide pedestrian trail along the south
side of La Rotonda Drive which was a coastal Commission
requirement.
Chairman Alberio asked if the opponents to the project were invited
when the City met with the coastal Commission Staff to discuss the
trails on the property and Planning Administrator Petru indicated
that they were invited to attend, but declined.
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Conditional Use Permit No. 163 - Conditions of Approval
Condition C.1, Golf Course Clubhouse: In respect to the location
of the clubhouse, Staff prepared a clarification, to address the
comments received from the Coastal Commission Staff regarding for
the need for a visual connection between Paseo del Mar and Half Way
Point Park. Additional language has been added to allow the
location of the clubhouse to be moved slightly to the west, subject
to the review and approval of the Director.
Condition 2.B.H, Maintenance Facility: Staff had suggested that
the golf course maintenance facility building be rotated 90 degrees
so that the service doors faced away from Palos Verdes Drives South
and the homes in the Seacliff Hills tract. When the noise analysis
was performed for the original Environmental Impact Report, the
clubhouse was at this location. The noise impact was found to be
insignificant and the maintenance facility will be a less intensive
use, therefore the maintenance facility would not create a
significant noise impact. A memo from Commissioner Vannorsdall
discussed some of the disadvantages of rotating that structure.
The developer performed a line of sight study which shows that
there is a knoll between the maintenance facility and the ocean
Terraces Condominiums which will act as a sound buffer. In
addition, the developer proposed that a 61 block wall be built
around the maintenance facility for security, sound attenuation and
visual screening. A higher wall would require a Variance.
Chairman Alberio asked Mr. Quinn Barrow from the City Attorney's
office if the Commission had the power at this meeting to increase
the height of the wall and Mr. Barrow said that this would not be
possible without a noticed public hearing on the Variance request.
He added that the Commission could make a suggestion to the City
Council that a higher wall would be preferable.
Commissioner Hayes stated, for the record, that, even though she
had not been present at the last hearing on August 9, 1994, she had
read the draft minutes, listened to the tape, read all the Staff
Reports and felt qualified to participate on this item.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked if the maintenance building would be
visible from the Ocean Terrace Condominiums.
Planning Administrator Petru clarified that the maintenance
facility would not be visible from the Ocean Terraces Condominiums
because of a knoll on one of the golf course holes.
Chairman Alberio added that the maintenance facility would be at
lower elevation than Ocean Terraces.
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Planning Administrator Petru said that not only is it at a lower
elevation, but also that the structure was being graded into the
hillside. This was done to protect views and for aesthetic
purposes, although it also acts to buffer unwanted noise, as well.
Chairman Alberio noted that the maintenance facility would also be
turned not only toward Ocean Terraces but also toward the Ocean
Trails proposed housing development.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked about the line of sight from the
maintenance facility to these new homes.
Planning Administrator Petru replied that a line of sight study had
not been performed, but it appeared that the facility may be
visible from Lots 35 and 36.
Commissioner Vannorsdall expected the noise level from the
maintenance facility to be approximately 65 to 70 dBa, which is
acceptable by State standards.
Chairman Alberio asked the distance of the maintenance facility to
Ocean Terraces and Planning Administrator Petru reported that it
was about 2,500 feet.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked about the line of sight going in the
opposite direction.
Planning Administrator Petru answered that the Planning
Commissioners were furnished previously with copies of
architectural drawings indicating that a person would have to be
standing on the roof of the maintenance facility in order to see
the homes in Seacliff Hills.
Commissioner Vannorsdall stated that he now felt comfortable with
the rotation of the maintenance facility.
Commissioner Hayes asked Planning Administrator Petru for her
recommendation and Ms. Petru said that she thought it would be best
to orient the building to the southwest to minimize noise impact
and to face the narrow end of the building toward Palos Verdes
Drive South.
The Public Hearing was still open from the previous hearing on
August 9, 1994.
Mr. Michael A. Mohler, applicant, 25200 La Paz, Suite 210, Laguna
Hills, CA. Mr. Mohler agreed that the noise impact and line of
sight issues had been resolved and he did not believe that a
portion of the clubhouse roof would interfere with the magnificent
view of the ocean and Catalina Island from the homes in Sea Cliff
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Hills. He stated his support of the additional CEQA findings being
applied to all of the Resolutions. Mr. Mohler was also in
agreement with the solution to provide a handicapped accessible
trail east of Half Way Point Park and the 61 wide pedestrian trail
along La Rotonda. Regarding Condition C.1 for Conditional Use
Permit 163, he felt the inclusion of this condition was in order.
He also stated that the rotation of the maintenance facility was
satisfactory.
Richard Bara, I Peppertree Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Bara
noted that, because the plans seem to be in constant change, he was
not sure his comments were applicable. He objected to the narrow
width of the bluff top corridor and urged the Planning Commission
to widen these areas. The bluff top corridor west of Half Way
Point Park was proposed to be 1001 wide and he felt it should be
3001. The east side was proposed to be only 251 wide. There were
no paths there and he assumed the area was for plants and animals.
He felt that area should be widened to at least 501 to provide for
future cliff erosion.
Mr. Bara also stated that he felt the entire plan was incomplete
because of the possibility of acquiring the land owned by the Palos
Verdes Unified School District. When this land was obtained (and
he felt it would be), the whole project would have to be
redesigned, so he urged the Planning Commission to deny the plan
until this matter was resolved.
Ms. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Ms.
Larue wondered why the environmentalists who had attended the
previous meeting were not present. She added that she had great
respect for Mr. Frank Angel, an attorney experienced in these type
of developments who had attended the last hearing, and felt that he
was correct that a Supplemental Environmental Impact Report was
required, rather than an Addendum. If a wall was needed around the
maintenance facility, she strongly encouraged the Commissioners to
make sure it was an attractive wall, hopefully of Palos Verdes
stone, in keeping with the community.
Mr. Mike Mohler (returning to the podium for rebuttal) emphasized
that the buffers within the habitat area were created by the
Coastal Commission and that he would not have volunteered over a
half million dollars of Mr. Zuckerman or Mr. Hon's money on habitat
improvements or to build trails through County parks if it hadn't
been required, and the City Planning Staff can verify this fact.
He added that they had no intention of building anything other than
attractive walls within the entire project.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked about negotiations on the School
District property.
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Chairman Alberio and Vice Chairman Mowlds both stated that this was
not an appropriate subject for this hearing.
Mr. Mohler said he didn't mind discussing the negotiation, but he
did not feel that it was a foregone conclusion that the land would
be obtained. He concluded by saying that, if land is obtained,
they did realize they would have amend the project.
Commissioner Hayes moved to Close the Public Hearing, seconded by
Vice Chairman Mowlds. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to accept the addition language proposed
by the Staff as part of all subsequent approvals or recommendations
for approval on the Ocean Trails project. This motion was seconded
by Commissioner Whiteneck and Approved (6-0).
vice Chairman Mowlds moved to recommend approval of the draft
Addendum No. 3 to EIR No. 36 to City Council, seconded by
Commissioner Hayes. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to recommend approval of the revised
Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50666, subject to the Conditions of
Approval attached in Exhibit "A", to City Council, seconded by
Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to recommend approval of the revised
Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50667, subject to the Conditions of
Approval attached in Exhibit "A", to City Council, seconded by
Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to approve the revised CUP No. 162,
subject to the Conditions of Approval attached in Exhibit "A",
seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to approve the revised CUP No. 163,
subject to the amended Conditions of Approval attached in Exhibit
"A", seconded by Commissioner Hayes. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to approve the revision to the Grading
Permit No. 1541, subject to the Conditions of Approval attached in
Exhibit "A", seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to approve Variance 380, as revised by
Staff, seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Planning Administrator Petru noted that these P.C. Resolutions were
Adopted and the 15 -day appeal period would begin tomorrow. The
developer has indicated that they will file an appeal the next day,
so that the Council can consider the entire project. A public
hearing had already been noticed for the City Council meeting of
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September 6, 1994.
REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
1. Pre -Agenda for the September 6, 1994 meeting.
B. COMMISSION
1. On behalf of the Commission, Chairman Alberio
expressed thanks to Mr. Quinn Barrow from the City
Attorney's office for attending the meeting and
providing assistance on the "Ocean Trails" project.
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items) - NONE
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Wang moved, seconded by Commissioner Whiteneck, to
adjourn at 9:17 P.M. to its regular meeting on September 13, 1994.
Approved (6-0).
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