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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
August 9, 1994
The meeting was called to order at 7:04 P.M., by Chairman Alberio
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Kim Klopfenstein.
PRESENT: Commissioners Ferraro, Vannorsdall, Wang, Whiteneck, Vice
Chairman Mowlds and Chairman Alberio
ABSENT: Commissioner Hayes (excused)
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code
Enforcement Bernard, Planning Administrator Petru, Assistant
Planner de Freitas, and Assistant Planner Klopfenstein.
COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
Placed before the Planning Commission were the following:
a supplemental Staff Report for Item VIIB (Variance No.
377) and late correspondence on that same item from the
applicant (Mr. Dytrt) ; a chart prepared by Staff for Item
VIIC (Ocean Trails) and two other pieces of late
correspondence on this same item; a late letter for Item
VIB, (Height Variation No. 791 -Appeal); and the final
draft language for Development Code Revisions for later
consideration by the Commission on September` 13, 1994.
B. COMMISSION - NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. GRADING PERMIT NO. 1746; Mr. and Mrs. Katnik, 7440 Alida
Place. (FF)
Commissioner Ferraro moved
seconded by Viae Chairman
(6-0) .
CONTINUED BUSINESS
to Approve Grading Permit No. 1746,
Mowlds. Approved via Minute Order,
A. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 16 & 17 OF THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL
CODE (DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS); City of Rancho Palos
Verdes, Citywide. (JR)
Final draft revision language for Title 17, with the exception
of Chapter 17.96 (Definitions) and five Affordable Housing
chapters, was presented to the Planning Commission for their
review.
Commissioner Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Continue the Public
Hearing to September 13, 1994, for the review of the
outstanding draft revision language for Chapter 17.96, the
five Affordable Housing chapters, and Title 16, seconded by
Commissioner Ferraro. Approved (6-0).
B. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 791 - APPEAL• Dr. and Mrs. Ben Naghi, 60
Rockinghorse Road. (TS)
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved that this item be continued to
August 23, 1994 because of the heavy agenda, seconded by
Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. EXTREME SLOPE PERMIT NO. 38 & GRADING PERMIT NO. 1740; Mr. and
Mrs. Goetze, 28813 Blythewood Drive. (KK)
Commissioner Ferraro moved to waive reading of the Staff
Report, seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Open the Public Hearing,
seconded by Commissioner Ferraro. Approved (6-0).
Since there were no speakers, Commissioner Ferraro moved to
Close the Public Hearing, seconded by Vice Chairman Mowlds.
Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Ferraro moved for approval of the project,
seconded by Commissioner Wang. Approved via Minute Order (6-
0) .
Chairman Alberio mentioned that there was a 15 -day appeal
period before the Commission's action became final.
B. VARIANCE NO. 377 & ENCROACHMENT PERMIT NO. 25; Mr. and Mrs.
Dytrt, 6420 Sattes Drive. (FF)
The Planning Commission asked that this item be continued to
August 23, 1994 due to the heavy agenda that evening.
Director Bernard added that the applicant had requested a fee
waiver from the City Council, but the request was denied and
a late letter was received from Mr. Dytrt on this subject.
Staff was still awaiting receipt of the required fees before
the Planning Commission takes action on this item. Therefore,
Director Bernard requested that the item be continued until
September 13, 1994.
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to Open the Public Hearing,
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seconded by Commissioner Vannorsdall. Approved (6-0).
Paul Scala, 6405 Le Blanc Place, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Scala
stated that he was against the Variance and Staff's recommendation.
Director Bernard indicated that Staff had not issued a Staff Report
nor made a recommendation on this project since the necessary fees
had not been paid or waived by the City Council. Therefore, Mr.
Scala was speaking before the applicant had a chance to present his
case.
Mr. Scala said that he had asked for Code Enforcement against the
property in question for the last nine months and Mr. Bernard's
response was to file a lawsuit against him for an approved pool
enclosure that had been built 15 years before.
City Attorney Craig Steele told Mr. Scala that he seemed to be
getting off the subject and suggested that he come back to speak
when the item was actually being considered by the Planning
commission.
Mr. Scala presented to Staff photographs showing the view from his
property.
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to continue this item to September 13,
1994, seconded by Commissioner Ferraro. Approved (6-0).
C. REVISIONS TO VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NOS. 50666 AND 50667
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NOS. 162 AND 163 GRADING PERMIT NO.
1541, AND (NEW) VARIANCE NO. 380 (OCEAN TRAILS,); Palos Verdes
Land Holdings Company, Inc. and Zuckerman Building Company,
Coastal Subregions 7 and 8. (CP)
Commissioner Ferraro recused herself from hearing this item because
her home is within 2,500 feet of the proposed project.
Planning Administrator Petru presented the Staff Report. She
explained additional materials presented to the Planning Commission
after they received the Staff Report. She concluded her
presentation with a request for direction from the Planning
Commission on those areas highlighted in the Staff Report where
changes to the project were proposed to be made.
Chairman Alberio Opened the Public Hearing and asked that, in the
interest of time, if there were groups of speakers expressing the
same thoughts, that one person be chosen to present these ideas.
He added that, of course, each person would still be free to speak
if they felt it was important to do so.
Michael Mohler, Applicant, Project Manager for Ocean Trails, 25200
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La Paz, Suite 210, Laguna Hills, CA 92653. Mr. Mohler expressed
his opinion on various proposed changes.
1. Clubhouse He did not feel that it was practical to split the
parking lot on either side of the clubhouse, as suggested by Staff,
and felt that signage would be adequate identification for the
public park. He suggested that parking and recreational activities
be located away from Forrestal Creek for environmental reasons. He
stressed that the facility was intended to be more than just a golf
course and felt that the golfers should not have priority over the
general public, as this was a combination public/commercial
facility. He agreed that it would be a good idea to have more
public rest room facilities on the lower level of the clubhouse.
They had requested a Variance for a maximum of 50' clubhouse height
but the Staff Report indicated a 38' maximum building. Mr. Mohler
was now asking for a 40' maximum building height, with a provision
for not more than 20% of the roof area to exceed this height to a
maximum of 481.
2. Affordable Housing Complex Mr. Mohler acknowledged an error in
their plans and said that they would certainly be enclosing
garages. He believed that grasscrete would not be appropriate for
the affordable housing parking area because of the heavy usage of
this area.
3. Maintenance Facility Mr. Mohler indicated that additional
parking spaces were being provided at the maintenance facility to
provide flexibility and plenty of overflow parking for banquets.
He was opposed to rotating the maintenance building because
adjacent residences across the highway would be looking at only the
roof of the structure.
4. Public Amenities Page 16 of the Staff Report discussed an
additional public rest room used during daylight hours only in
conjunction with parking area at La Rotonda Drive/Paseo del Mar but
he said he would rather have it further into the golf course to be
courteous to Ocean Terraces. If the language was changed to "in
the vicinity of" and if there were proper signs, he would agree
with this condition. On the subject of trails, Mr. Mohler said
that, because of the lengthy process with the Coastal Commission,
he was not proposing deletion of any trails, specifically Mariposa
Lily Point Trail. He added that he was in favor of an alternative
handicap trail east of Half Way Point Park to avoid grading on the
bluff face. He explained that a Runoff Management Plan had been
filed with the City and that the County had already reviewed it.
Steven Royse, Architect for Ocean Trails Clubhouse, Klages Carter
Vail & Partners, 200 Baker Street, Suite 201, Costa Mesa, CA 92626.
Mr. Royse said that he believed the design of the building related
to the heritage, tradition and architecture of Rancho Palos Verdes,
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with its plaster walls, tile roof, Palos Verdes stone, wrought
iron, ceramic tile and appropriate colors. The clubhouse was
proposed to be located between the golf course and Half Way Point
Park. He noted that the views from the clubhouse would be
spectacular and that the structure would resemble a very large
single family residence. He described the floor plans of the first
and second stories. He explained that there was a bar and grill,
large dining areas, and a banquet room, capable of being split into
different configurations in order to accommodate different sized
functions.
Commissioner Wang asked what was the capacity of the banquet
facility and Mr. Royse said about 300 persons, depending on how the
tables were arranged.
Robert Agli, President, Ocean Terrace Condominium Association, 3200
La Rotonda Drive, #115, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Angli was
representing a large contingency of Association members, of which
about 15-20 were present. Mr. Agli stated that he submitted a
written statement to the Planning Commission prior to the meeting
and that the Ocean Terrace Condominium Association supported the
project except for one point. They objected to the public parking
area being located in front of their buildings on La Rotonda Drive
and had been working with Staff on this situation.
Commissioner Wang asked if the parking location had been changed
and Planning Administrator Petru said that it had been moved to the
west side of the cul-de-sac on La Rotonda Drive.
Dorothy Karfs, 3200 La Rotonda Drive, #104, Rancho Palos Verdes.
Mrs. Karfs had written a letter on August 1, 1994 and was unhappy
about the parking at that time. However, she said that she and her
husband were satisfied since the parking spaces had been relocated
and felt Ocean Trails would be a beautiful facility and a wonderful
addition to their neighborhood.
Ed Kennedy, 2713 Vista Mesa Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr.
Kennedy stated that he was speaking as a private citizen, not as
the Chairman of the Rancho Palos Verdes Recreation and Parks
Committee. He expressed approval of the improvements from the plan
previously approved by the City and felt that Half Way Point Park
would be the jewel in the crown of Rancho Palos Verdes parks.
However, he agreed that the clubhouse rest room facilities were
inadequate. He added his support to the parking lot change near
Ocean Terraces and mentioned that he was concerned about the public
being able to safely use the trails adjacent to the golf course.
Barbara Ferraro, President, Mediterrania Homeowners Association,
3530 Seaglen Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mrs. Ferraro commented
that the clubhouse was a beautiful design but agreed that there
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were not enough public rest rooms on the lower floor. She said
that Planning Administrator Petru's Staff Report contained data
from Los Angeles County regarding the number of rest rooms
required, and the requirement for a five -acre park, like Half Way
Point Park, would be four stalls per gender. She added her support
of the alternative handicap trail to avoid grading the face of the
bluff.
Kay Bara, Coastal Conservation Coalition, 1 Peppertree Drive,
Rancho Palos Verdes. Mrs. Bara was concerned that 100' bluff top
corridor was too narrow and preferred 3001, because of cliff
erosion. She felt that a wider buffer would eliminate the need for
protective fencing and, where public protection was necessary, she
suggested substituting vegetation instead.
Richard Bara, 1 Peppertree Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Bara
also protested the narrowness of the bluff top buffer zones. He
said that the eastern side was 1001 and it was originally to be 100
meters, which he supported, and that the western side was only 251.
He added that the 251 would be quickly be reduced to zero from
cliff erosion. He also expressed concern about protection of the
hikers from stray golf balls.
Frank Angel, Attorney representing the Coastal Conservation
Coalition, 10951 West Pico Boulevard, Third Floor, Los Angeles, CA
90064. Mr. Angel said that he believed relocation of the clubhouse
would require a major revision to the Conditional Use Permit, that
a supplemental EIR should be prepared instead of an Addendum EIR
and expressed concern that there had been no application for a
Coastal Permit.
Angelika Brinkmann-Buri, California Native Plant Society, 1354
Stonewood Court, San Pedro, CA 90732. Ms. Brinkmann-Susi
considered the relocation of clubhouse a significant change to the
project and was also concerned about the narrow bluff top buffers
and protecting the plants and wildlife in the area. Specifically,
she was concerned about increased noise levels which could affect
the birds in the area and the fact that additional trails down the
bluff face to the shoreline would accelerate erosion.
Lois Large, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Ms. Larue
expressed her opposition to the golf course, but supported the
housing project. She felt that the golf course was illegal, a
violation of Coastal Specific Plan, and a toxic waste site.
Stephen Carpenter, 6230 Scotmist Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr.
Carpenter was interested in protection of the coastal sage scrub
habitat and discussed the Palos Verdes blue butterfly, the
gnatcatcher, and the cactus wren. He stressed that the larvae of
the blue butterfly live on loco weed and, therefore, this plant
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would need to be protected also.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked Mr. Carpenter if he was representing
a group and he said that he was a private Rancho Palos Verdes
resident who enjoyed hiking on the peninsula and had learned about
the vegetation and animals. He said that he did not want to see
mistakes repeated with regard to endangered species.
George Fink, 3213 Searaven Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mr. Fink
expressed his approval of the project except for a few points. He
objected to the minimum trail widths because he believed that
erosion to the bluff tops would reduce the narrow corridor to no
corridor within a few months. He was disappointed to see changes
from the last City approval which would increase traffic congestion
at Forrestal Drive and Palos Verdes Drive South. Mr. Fink felt
that the City's height limits for the clubhouse were generous
enough that a Variance should not be granted.
Marilee Spargur, 32503 Seacliff Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes. Mrs.
Spargur supported the project, but had concerns about the
maintenance building being placed directly behind her home. She
said that, since this structure was not going to be inhabited, it
would not have to meet the 1.5 geology safety factor and could be
built somewhere else on the property. She was worried about noise
impacts and protecting her view.
Director Bernard informed the Planning Commission that three
additional letters had been received during the public hearing,
from Mrs. Spargur, Ms. Paula Miklovik, and Dr. Syeds.
Chairman Alberio stated that the letters would be entered into the
public record.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
Recessed at 8:27 P.M. and reconvened at 8:45 P.M.
Chairman Alberio asked for comments from the Staff in response to
the questions raised by speakers during the public hearing.
Planning Administrator Petru made comments in response to various
speakers.
In respect to Mike Mohler's comments, Ms. Petru asked Mr. Mohler to
repeat the proposed height of the clubhouse and said that she
agreed with him that the additional height would probably not have
an impact on views from existing surrounding homes. However, even
at the original height proposed, there would be a small impact to
the lots at the end of the cul-de-sac located above the clubhouse,
particularly from Lot 7. She added that the developer was in
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control of this, but Lot 7 potentially had a spectacular view which
could be a factor in marketing. Ms. Petru said that grasscrete was
only one possibility to be used in the affordable housing area and
that other materials could be used in order to avoid too much
asphalt, i.e. an institutional appearance. The reason for rotating
the maintenance building was to place the equipment bay doors in
the direction of the golf course rather than facing the public road
and to place the narrow end of the building toward Palos Verdes
Drive South. Regarding the Mariposa Lily Point Trail, Staff did
not mean to imply during the oral Staff Report that the developer
was trying to eliminate this trail. Ms. Petru said that Staff felt
that an alternate trail should be provided in another portion of
the site in order to protect the sensitive plants in this area.
Although Planning Administrator Petru was not responding directly
to Mr. Kennedy's statements, they did jog her memory about three
vista point turnouts on Palos Verdes Drive South. One of these
would be on the landward side of the road which the City Council
had required to be a vehicular turnout. However, because there was
not a grade separation between the two directions of traffic, a
dangerous situation may be created for pedestrians who would be
tempted to park on the landward side and jaywalk across Palos
Verdes Drive South to get to the trails. Ms. Petru asked the
Planning Commission whether or not they wanted to make a change
and, if the parking spaces were eliminated, if they had suggestions
for an alternative location in order to maintain the total number
of parking spaces associated with the project. In addition, the
Coastal Commission Staff agreed that a typographical error had been
made which indicated that a trail down Paseo del Mar near the
clubhouse was on the west side of the road, but should be on the
east side, again to avoid unsafe jaywalking.
In regard to Mr. Agli's comments, he had suggested that the La
Rotonda parking lot be locked at night and this was one of the
conditions that had been required by the City. However, she
explained that the issue of permit parking on La Rotonda Drive
should be addressed separately from this project.
In response to Mr. Angel's statement about a lack of a Coastal
Permit, Ms. Petru explained that there was a Coastal Permit
Revision application submitted by the developer. However, it was
not processed because, once Coastal Permit No. 103 was appealed to
the Coastal Commission and this agency found that the appeal raised
"substantial issues", the Coastal Commission took jurisdiction over
the permit. Therefore, the City was not able to issue another
Coastal Permit for this project. The developer will have to file
separate amendments with the Coastal Commission in order make
revisions to the Tentative Tract Map and related applications
valid.
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To answer the concerns of Ms. Brinkmann-Busi regarding the coastal
bluff trails down to the shoreline, Planning Administrator Petru
reported that the City was in favor of only one of these trails,
off the east side of Half Way Point Park, and that the other three
trails were added by the Coastal Commission. She explained that
Staff opposition was based on the same problems Ms. Brinkmann-Busi
mentioned, which were erosion and potential damage to the delicate
plant species on the bluff -face, as well as public safety concerns.
With regard to Mr. Carpenter's comments about the Palos Verdes blue
butterfly, Ms. Petru informed the Commission, if they were not
already aware, that the Palos Verdes blue butterfly was found again
by Dr. Rudi Mattoni, a leading expert on this butterfly, as part of
a survey funded by the City's Redevelopment Agency. Dr. Mattoni
was consulted regarding the likelihood that the blue butterfly
might be found on the Ocean Trails site and he indicated that the
chances were very low, to non-existent.
In response to Ms. Spargur's comments, Planning Administrator Petru
said that, even though the maintenance structure would not be
considered "habitable" space, the City Council made a policy
decision when the project was first approved, that any structure
used by the public or golf course employees would be required to be
located on an area with a minimum factor of safety of at least 1. 5,
except for very small out -buildings or rest rooms that were part of
the golf course.
Michael Mohler returned to the podium for rebuttal and thanked Ms.
Petru for her clarifications and apologized for the error regarding
deletion of the Mariposa Lily Point trail. With respect to
grasscrete, Mr. Mohler asked that, if the Commission were inclined
to use this surface, it should be limited to the auxiliary lot
only. He wanted to make sure that it was understood that only Mrs.
Spargur's foreground view was threatened, not her ocean view. Mr.
Mohler explained that they were requesting a 401 Clubhouse height,
with permission to exceed that height to a maximum of 48f, for only
20% of the roof area. With respect to the view at Lot 7, Mr.
Mohler said that the buyer would know he would be looking at a
structure before he purchased the lot. He said that they would
prefer not to change the buffer zone width along the bluff top.
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked Mr. Mohler why he was opposed to
rotating maintenance building, as suggested by Staff, and he said
that the factors were flow of traffic and security.
There was a discussion between commissioner Vannorsdall and Mr.
Mohler regarding safety of the hikers near the golf course and it
was concluded that it would not be possible to address this issue
until other major decisions were finalized by the City Council and
Coastal Commission.
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Vice chairman Mowlds asked Mr. Mohler if he would enclose all the
parking garages at the affordable housing and he said yes.
Vice Chairman Mowlds inquired whether Mr. Mohler would be willing
to build the rest room at the La Rotonda parking lot further into
the golf area, for use by the golfers as well, and Mr. Mohler said
he would be willing to do this.
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked Mr. Mohler if he would be willing to
build another rest room closer to the trails to keep hiker traffic
out of the clubhouse and Mr. Mohler said that he would not prefer
that alternative since they wanted to encourage the public to enter
the clubhouse.
Vice Chairman Mowlds proposed that, if the clubhouse rest rooms
were enlarged, the Commission would allow a 20% increase in square
footage of the building, if the Director agreed, and Mr. Mohler
said, although they would accept a 20% increase, they could enlarge
the rest rooms without additional square footage or decreasing the
revenue-producing areas of the clubhouse.
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked about a Runoff Management Plan and
Planning Administrator Petru replied that such a draft plan had
already been submitted to the City.
Chairman Alberio wondered if a traffic light might be needed at
Forrestal Drive and Palos Verdes Drive South and Director Bernard
answered that this was discussed with the developer but that no
conclusion had been reached as yet.
Chairman Alberio asked about restricting public parking in the
bicycle rest stop on the landward side of Palos Verdes Drive South
and Planning Administrator Petru said that soil berm or boulders
could be placed to block the driveway entrance into the restricted
areas.
Chairman Alberio asked if the Coastal Commission Staff had
requested the handicapped loop trail and Planning Administrator
Petru said the loop concept was conceptually acceptable to them to
avoid excessive grading on the bluff face.
Chairman Alberio was concerned about noise from the maintenance
building and Planning Administrator Petru said that although any
noise impacts would be insignificant, they would be further
minimized by lowering the building pad below Palos Verdes Drive
South and turning the building to face the golf course.
Chairman Alberio asked Planning Administrator Petru if the Coastal
Commission had accepted that change and Ms. Petru indicated that
they must approve any changes through a separate amendment process.
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Before he left the podium, Mr. Mohler stated that he would be
willing to accept the rotation of the maintenance building.
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked what objections the Coastal commission
Staff had to the project in general.
Planning Administrator Petru said there were two areas of concern:
(1) that the new location of the clubhouse would hide the park from
the public and (2) that the loss of the Mariposa Lily Point Trail
and handicap access down the bluff face should be substituted with
alternate bluff top trails of equivalent length.
Commissioner Wang inquired if relocation of the clubhouse would
require a new Conditional Use Permit.
Planning Administrator Petru responded that an amendment to the
existing Conditional Use Permit would be required.
Vice Chairman Mowlds moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Whiteneck. Approved (5-0), with commissioner Ferraro
abstaining since she lives near the proposed project.
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked about the height of the clubhouse
building and the required number of parking spaces and how these
issues related to the new Development Code requirements.
Planning Administrator Petru said that the reason Staff did not use
the proposed Development Code revisions for the clubhouse height
was because this project requires a Variance. However, the parking
space requirements were taken from the proposed Development Code
revisions because golf course parking requirements had not existed
in the past.
Vice Chairman Mowlds wondered if the bluff top buffer zone widths
were reviewed by Coastal Commission and Planning Administrator
Petru answered that the existing 100 foot requirement came from the
Coastal Commission.
Vice Chairman Mowlds, with Commissioner Whiteneck's concurrence,
expressed doubts that grasscrete was an appropriate solution to
improve the appearance of the affordable housing parking area and
suggested that plants be used to separate the asphalt into smaller
areas.
The Planning Commission decided to take a straw vote on various
aspects of the project.
Vice chairman Mowlds suggested that the clubhouse remain at its
present location. Approved (5-0).
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Vice Chairman Mowlds believed all the parking garages at the low
income housing should be enclosed, as the developer had agreed to
do. Approved (5-0).
Vice Chairman Mowlds proposed an additional rest room at the La
Rotonda parking area, at a location to be decided later. Approved
(5-0) .
The Commission decided to make no changes in the trails. Approved
(5-0) .
The Commission discussed the 40' Clubhouse height, with a 20%
section of the roof to be a maximum of 48' Approved (5-0).
Chairman Alberio proposed an enlarged rest room area in the
clubhouse. Approved (5-0)
Vice Chairman Mowlds suggested that grasscrete should not be used,
at least in the affordable housing parking lot. Approved (5-0).
Chairman Alberio stated that protecting the public using the trails
from flying golf balls would come up later and the other Commission
members agreed.
After a short discussion, the Commission agreed that the
maintenance building would be rotated 90 degrees. Approved (5-0).
A discussion regarding splitting the parking lot on either side of
the clubhouse resulted in a decision to leave the parking lot as
originally designed. Approved (5-0).
The Planning Commission decided to leave the bluff top buffer zones
at the originally -proposed width. Approved (5-0).
Planning Administrator Petru asked that, even though there was a
straw vote to approve the trails as currently proposed, the trail
at Mariposa Lily Point was not specifically addressed. She asked
the Commissioners if they would like to leave that trail in or
select an alternative trail site.
The Planning Commission decided to eliminate the Mariposa Lily
Point Trail and to provide an alternative trail at Half Way Point
Park. Approved (5-0).
Director Bernard asked the Commission if they wanted to allow a 20%
increase in square footage and 10% increase in footprint, with
Director review. Approved (5-0)
Chairman Alberio asked Planning Administrator Petru if she had
sufficient information for the Resolutions and she said yes, and
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that the Resolutions would be submitted to the Planning Commission
for review at the August 23, 1994 meeting.
Chairman Alberio wondered if a special Planning Commission meeting
should be set up to have the Resolutions reviewed before the next
City Council meeting on August 16, 1994.
Director Bernard explained that Planning Administrator Petru had
worked 43 hours of overtime on this project during the last few
weeks and that there were seven different resolutions to be written
at this time, with a total of 400 to 500 conditions. He did not
feel it was possible to present these Resolutions to the Planning
Commission for review before the next City Council meeting on
August 16, 1994. Instead, he suggested that the Resolutions be
submitted for review at the August 23, 1994 Planning commission
meeting and, subsequently, at the September 6, 1994 City Council
meeting.
Chairman Alberio agreed that the Resolutions would be returned to
the Planning Commission on August 23, 1994.
Mr. Michael Mohler agreed that, although he would like to have the
City Council review the project earlier, he understood the amount
of work involved.
Vice Chairman Mowlds, on behalf of the Planning Commission,
commended Planning Administrator Petru on her extraordinary effort
and felt strongly that the project would never progressed this far
without her hard work.
Director Bernard expressed the need to re -open the public hearing
and continue the item to August 23, 1994 when the Resolutions would
be reviewed by the Planning Commission.
The Chairman Re -opened the Public Hearing and continued this item
to August 23, 1994 for consideration of the draft P.C. Resolutions.
Commissioner Ferraro returned to the dais.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
A. STAFF
1. Pre -Agenda for the August 23, 1994, meeting.
B. COMMISSION - NONE
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
Lois Larue spoke about the Palos Verdes blue butterfly and provided
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a copy of the Redondo Beach Planning Commission Rules of Order.
Director Bernard expressed appreciation to Mr. Craig Steele, from
the City Attorney's office, for being present at the meeting,
especially with very little notice.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Whiteneck moved, seconded by Vice Chairman Mowlds, to
adjourn. Motion carried and the meeting was duly adjourned at
10:09 P.M. to the next regular meeting on August 23, 1994.
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AUGUST 9, 1994
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