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CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
April 26, 1994
The meeting was called to order at 7:08 P.M., by Chairman Alberio
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
The Pledge of Allegiance followed, led by Donna Jerex.
PRESENT: Commissioners Hayes, Ferraro, Vannorsdall, Wang,
Whiteneck, Vice Chairman Mowlds (who arrived at 7:37
P.M.) and Chairman Alberio.
ABSENT: None
Also present were Director of Planning, Building and Code
Enforcement Bernard, Planning Administrator Petru, Senior Planner
Rojas, Associate Planner Jerex, and Assistant Planner de Freitas.
COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
There was no late correspondence, but Director Bernard suggested
that the agenda be reordered to address the Continued Business item
(Development Code Revision) after the Public Hearing and New
Business items. The Commission agreed.
B. COMMISSION - None
CONSENT CALENDAR - None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 179; Fidelity Radiology Group,
29000 South Western Avenue. (DJ)
Associate Planner Jerex read the Staff Report. This request is to
allow the continued use of a 63 -foot trailer which provides mobile
diagnostic imaging services in the parking lot adjacent to a four-
story office building. The previous Conditional Use Permit issued
for the use in 1990 expired in 1991 when the applicant failed to
request an extension from the Director of Planning, Building and
Code Enforcement. However, the business has continued to operate
since that time. The trailer provides CT Scan and Magnetic
Resource Imaging services to patients from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
on weekdays and from 8:00 A.M. to 8:00 P.M. on Saturday. Staff has
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received complaints from neighboring residents regarding noise
associated with the trailer being parked along the rear of the
parking lot, rather than in front of the building along Western
Avenue. Due to the continuing lapse in City permits and changes in
the location of the trailer on the parking lot, Staff feels that
the project should be more closely monitored in the future. If the
applicant does not comply with these conditions of approval, the
Director will have the discretion to deny extensions to the permit
in the future.
Commissioner Hayes asked for an explanation of the applicant's
violations mentioned in the Staff Report and Associate Planner
Jerex replied that the violations included the incorrect location
of the trailer and the fact that the permits have lapsed since
1991.
Commissioner Ferraro asked if there was a concern for safety
because of the medical tests performed inside the trailer and
Associate Planner Jerex replied that it was felt that the trailer
did not present any danger to individuals in the adjacent area.
Chairman Alberio opened the Public Hearing.
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Mr. Chris Courtney, (representing the applicant) 4605 Lankershim
Blvd., #802, North Hollywood, CA. Mr. Courtney stated that he
agreed with the Staff Report. He added that Dr. Taus was not aware
of the improper parking of the trailer, as the trailer was placed
on the parking lot by the operator of the truck which hauled the
trailer. Mr. Courtney said that Dr. Taus had admonished the
hauling company for the mistake and will make sure that the trailer
is parked only in the correctly designated location in the future.
Commissioner Wang asked Mr. Courtney if the applicant would be more
diligent in the future in renewing the permit before it expired and
Mr. Courtney said that he would.
Ms. Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Ms.
Larue expressed her concern about the safety of passersby in the
vicinity of the trailer and suggested that warning signs be placed
on the trailer, advising the nature of the activity inside the
trailer.
Mr. Courtney explained that the trailer was adequately insulated
and that there was no danger to persons outside the trailer. He
added that since the equipment used magnets, rather than radiation
to create the image, the insulation was installed mainly to protect
the quality of the image. For example, a car (or any large metal
object) passing by would create a disturbance in the magnetic
image.
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Chairman Alberio asked if the trailer had signs identifying its use
and Mr. Courtney said that it did.
Commissioner Hayes noted that
guarantee from the builder of the
taken and there is no danger.
insecure about the potential for
the Staff Report mentioned a
trailer that safeguards have been
She added that she did not feel
harm.
In answer to Commissioner Ferraro's query, Mr. Courtney replied
that he was not sure what kind of material was used for insulation;
however, he did know that the insulation was developed by General
Electric, who also built the equipment. Chairman Alberio said that
the insulation was probably a foam which was shot into the walls of
the trailer, where it solidified.
Commissioner Hayes moved to close the public hearing, seconded by
Commissioner Ferraro. Approved (6-0).
Commissioner Ferraro asked if the trailer was going to be parked in
front of the parking lot and Commissioner Hayes answered that this
was one of the proposed conditions of approval.
Associate Planner Jerex suggested that there should be a
designation on each side of the trailer indicating that it is an
MRI facility.
Commissioner Whiteneck moved to Approve Conditional Use Permit No.
179, subject to the modified conditions of approval, seconded by
commissioner Hayes. Approved (6-0).
NEW BUSINESS
A. SIGN PERMIT NO. 662• Mesa P.V. Homeowners Association,
29716 Whitley Collins Drive. (FF)
Assistant Planner de Freitas read the Staff Report. This Sign
Permit would allow an additional tract identification sign at the
northwest corner of Whitley Collins Drive and Crest Road. The
existing tract identification sign is located at the northeast
corner of the intersection and, along with the other existing sign
at Whitley Collins Drive and Highridge Road, these existing signs
will be re -furbished. The proposed sign would be placed on the
existing Palos Verdes stone freestanding wall that wraps around the
property at 29719 Whitley Collins Drive. It is Staff's opinion
that the sign should be approved since it would aid in identifying
the neighborhood, would beautify the entry to the tract and would
not create any visual interference at the intersection. Staff
therefore recommended that the Commission approve the Sign Permit,
via Minute Order with the suggested conditions of approval. Staff
noted that the applicant was present at the meeting if there were
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any questions.
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Commissioner Hayes moved and Commissioner Ferraro seconded to
accept the Staff's Recommendation to Approve Sign Permit No. 662.
Approved by Minute Order (6-0).
Chairman Alberio noted that this project, which involved a grant
from the City to the Homeowners Association, was first suggested in
1986 and asked why it had taken so long to come before the Planning
Commission for approval.
Director Bernard explained that the recycling grant to defray the
cost of the project was not awarded until October of 1993.
Planning Administrator Petru added that the City has only a limited
amount of recycling grant money to be dispensed each year and each
.applicant must wait until there are sufficient funds available.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 16 & 17 OF THE CITY'S
MUNICIPAL CODE (DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS); City of
Rancho Palos Verdes, Citywide. (JR)
The Commission waived the reading of the Staff Report and reviewed
the proposed draft Code language page by page.
17.48.030 [Setbacks]
Commissioner Hayes asked about clarification of the sentence
"Except as otherwise provided... located under or on top of the
ground...", which had been discussed previously.
Senior Planner Rojas explained that Vice Chairman Mowlds requested
that there be an exception for building footings or foundations and
that this was noted in 17.48.030(E) "Exceptions".
Chairman Alberio questioned whether the Director should determine
property line designations, as property lines are legal constructs,
and are, therefore, described by deed.
Senior Planner Rojas clarified that this statement did not provide
the Director with the power to decide where the actual property
line was, but only to designate whether it was a side, rear, or
front property line. He added that the language would be rewritten
to make this clear.
17.48.030(A)(1) [Setbacks]
Commissioner Wang asked for the definition of a "flag lot" and
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Chairman Alberio, Commissioner Vannorsdall, and Director Bernard
explained that, when seen in plan view, the lot is shaped like a
flag, usually with a long driveway between two lots leading to a
back property.
17.48.030(C)(2)(g) [Setbacks - Hillside Lots]
Commissioner Hayes noted that the word "If" should be included in
the first sentence to read: "If the grade of the slope.... then the
following setback shall apply".
Senior Planner Rojas explained that letters "all, "b", and "cl, are
all following the statement in paragraph No. 2 which reads "In
hillside areas where the following conditions occur:" and, in that
context, the word "if" is not needed.
After Chairman Alberio and Director Bernard concurred with Senior
Planner Rojas' interpretation; however, commissioner Hayes stressed
that it might be technically correct, but it was poor English.
Chairman Alberio asked the Staff to look at this portion of the
Code to perhaps improve the sentence structure.
17.48.030(E)(1) (Setbacks - Exceptions)
Commissioner Whiteneck asked for a definition of "belt course".
Planning Administrator Petru explained that it was an architectural
facia applied to the front of the building. For example, on a
Tudor -style house, half timbers which are just add-ons,
applications to the front of the building to look like timbers,
standing out from the wall a few inches, would be considered to be
similar to a "belt course".
17.48.030(E)(3)(b)(3) [Setbacks - Exceptions]
Commissioner Whiteneck asked for a clarification of the sentence
"No part of any minor structure or mechanical equipment extends
within three feet..."
Senior Planner Rojas clarified that this was a continuation from
the sentence on the previous page that ends "provided that:"
17.48.030(E)(3)(b)(2) [Setbacks - Exceptions - Minor Structures]
Commissioner Ferraro had the same question regarding the sentence
beginning "No part of any such minor structure... 11
Planning Administrator Petru explained that the sentence on the
previous page (E) (3) (b) ended with "provided that:" and then listed
the following conditions - (1), (2), and (3).
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At this point (7:37 P.M.), Vice
asked if he had any questions
already reviewed that evening.
to that point in the discussion,
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Chairman Mowlds arrived and he was
about the portions of the Code
He indicated that he had none, up
17.48.030(E)(3)(b)(3) [Setbacks - Exceptions - Minor Structures]
Vice Chairman Mowlds questioned the sentence "is placed adjacent to
an existing wall...". He was under the impression this sentence
was going to be changed to "an existing solid masonry wall..."
Commissioner Vannorsdall agreed with Vice Chairman Mowlds.
Senior Planner Rojas recalled that the word "solid" was added.
Planning Administrator Petru commented that a solid wall could be
interpreted to include a wooden fence.
Director Bernard stated that the word "masonry" would be added to
the sentence.
Senior Planner Rojas clarified that the reduced setback would not
apply to mechanical equipment which generate noise, only small
accessory structures, such as tool sheds and barbecues.
17.48.030(E)(8) [Setbacks - Exceptions - Subterranean Structures)
Commissioner Vannorsdall asked about the rationale regarding
"Subterranean structures which are located entirely below grade..."
Vice Chairman Mowlds gave an example of an underground wine cellar
which no one would see.
Director Bernard added that this would apply to any subterranean
structure that would not be apparent to a person walking or driving
by the subject property. It was felt that, because of easements
which may be located in setback areas, the subterranean structure
should not go all the way into the required setback area, and that
halfway was an appropriate distance.
17.48.030(F)(8) (Setbacks - Easements)
Chairman Alberio stated that the proposed Code language required a
written authorization from the legal holder of the easement. He
felt that this would not be necessary and could be considered
interference with the easement, which is a real property contract
between the two parties involved to allow limited use by one
property owner of someone else's property. In this case, the
grantor gives the grantee the right to use the property, but the
grantor reserves the right to the ground surface and to issue more
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easements on top of the first easement.
Director Bernard said the City Attorney would be consulted on this
matter.
17.48.050(A)(3) [Building Height]
Commissioner Vannorsdall noted that, in order to get proper draft,
a chimney would have to be at least two feet over the highest
ridge.
Senior Planner Rojas explained that the Building Code addressed the
minimum height of a chimney, but the Development Code provided a
procedure for allowing a chimney to be higher than the minimum
Building Code requirement.
17.48.050(A)(2) [Building Height]
Vice Chairman Mowlds asked if installation of a 16' flagpole, not
necessarily on an extreme slope, but anywhere on a residential lot,
would require only approval from the Director and if the flagpole
was considered an accessory structure.
Planning Administrator Petru replied that flagpoles are considered
to be accessory structures, however, 16' high flagpoles have been
allowed in the past, through a Site Plan Review.
17.50.020 [Parking Requirements]
Commissioner Ferraro asked why golf course parking requirements
were increased from three to six spaces per golf hole.
Senior Planner Rojas replied that all parking requirements had been
determined from a comprehensive survey of other cities throughout
the State of California. Golf Courses had originally been changed
from three to five parking spaces per hole and then an additional
space was added for employee parking.
Vice Chairman Mowlds wondered why parking requirements for hotels
were based on one space for each bed and felt it should be based on
the number of rooms instead.
Senior Planner Rojas answered that, by allowing a space for each
bed, the worst case scenario was being considered, so that parking
needs would not be underestimated.
Commissioner Ferraro asked if the same reasoning applied to the
changes in parking for veterinary hospitals and Senior Planner
Rojas said that this was the case.
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Director Bernard added that the survey mentioned by senior Planner
Rojas was a study performed by traffic consultants and was based
upon the various cities, experience to determine the best
standards.
When Commissioner Vannorsdall noted that some of the facilities
were not currently in Rancho Palos Verdes, Director Bernard
explained that any of these facilities may be proposed in the
future and parking requirements would be available at that time.
Commissioner Ferraro asked if it was true that some of the parking
for Peninsula High School was in Rancho Palos Verdes and Director
Bernard said that a substantial number of on -street parking spaces
were located in Rancho Palos Verdes, however, since the high school
itself was located in the City of Rolling Hills Estates, the on-
site parking facilities could not be regulated by our City.
Vice Chairman Mowlds noted that there appeared to be a choice in
the Code for the owner of an automobile service, repair or gas
station. The proposed Code language states that "one space would
be required for every 300 square feet ... or one space for every
employee plus two spaces for every....". He wondered if the phrase
"whichever is larger" should be added.
Senior Planner Rojas agreed that Staff would provide language to
indicate that in the case of a difference between the two
standards, the stricter requirement would apply.
17.50.030(E) [Parking Requirements - Screening]
Vice Chairman Mowlds indicated that the first paragraph began
"Where a parking area abuts or is across the street from a
residential district..." and the second paragraph began "where a
parking area is across the street from a residential district...".
He wondered which paragraph would apply when the parking area was
across the street from a residential district.
Senior Planner Rojas agreed that a correction to the language was
needed.
17.50.030(D) (Parking Requirements - Access)
Commissioner Whiteneck expressed his opinion that a concrete
driveway which was a minimum of ten feet wide and four inches thick
would crumble, unless it was reinforced with wire mesh.
Senior Planner Rojas replied that this requirement was consistent
with the Building Code according to the Public Works Department,
which is why the following sentence was added to indicate that the
final design of the driveway would be 11 .... approved by the
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Director of Public Works."
Commissioner Whiteneck felt that the Building Code was incorrect.
He also believed that the word "slab" should be added after the
word "concrete".
Vice Chairman Mowlds explained that the portion from the curb to
the property line is controlled by Public Works and that it is non-
reinforced because utility easements are frequently under the
apron. For this reason, the concrete should be easy to break up.
Also, there is a joint between the apron and the driveway so that
the apron can be broken without breaking up the driveway itself.
Chairman Alberio agreed with Commissioner Whiteneck that the word
"slab" should be added after "concrete".
17.50.030(F)(5) [Parking Requirements - Layout and Paving]
Commissioner Whiteneck suggested that there should be other options
allowed, in addition to bumpers or tire stops.
Senior Planner Rojas and the other Commissioners agreed that
language would be added indicating that "...any other comparable
device may be used, as deemed appropriate by the Director".
Vice Chairman Mowlds believed that a more specific reference should
be made to the parking diagram following this page, indicating the
title and page number of the diagram, and Senior Planner Rojas said
he would make the change.
Vice Chairman Mowlds noted that the Code indicated that the
Director would decide whether a parking lot should be double or
single striped. Vice Chairman Mowlds felt that small lots should
have single striping and large ones (for example, for a
supermarket) should have double striping.
17.64.030(C) (Variance - Applications]
Commissioner Hayes asked if the Code should mention that the
decision of the Director that a Variance application is
inappropriate in a specific case, could be appealed to the Planning
Commission.
Senior Planner Rojas clarified that the decision of the Director,
in this case, was given before the item was heard by the Planning
Commission. This information given at Staff level would warn an
applicant that a project may be beyond the scope of the Code so
that if he or she may decide not to waste their time in pursuing a
Variance. If the applicant chose to continue, the formal process
would be followed, with a decision and then an appeal period.
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Vice Chairman Mowlds suggested that the word "significant" be added
before the word "error" so the sentence will read: "A Variance may
also be granted if the applicant demonstrates significant
error... Staff agreed to make this language change.
17.66.020(D) [Minor Exception Permits - Scope]
Commissioner Wang asked about the lone bracket appearing before the
words "ten feet" and Senior Planner Rojas said it was unnecessary
and would be removed.
Vice Chairman Mowlds stated that the words "or the City Council"
should be added after "....through a discretionary permit to the
Planning commission", because the Council could have been the
approving party. Staff agreed to make this suggested language
change.
The Planning Commission Development Code Sub -Committee meeting was
adjourned to Thursday, May 28, 1994 at 7:00 P.M. in the Fireside
Room at Hesse Park.
REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
1. Pre -Agenda for the May 10, 1994, meeting.
It was noted that there will be CEQA Orientation Session
scheduled from 7:00 to 7:30 P.M. The City has made an
agreement with a private consulting firm to conduct the
session. An outline for the session will be provided
prior to the meeting.
B. COMMISSION - None
COMMENTS FROM AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items
Ms. Lois Large, 3136 Barkentine Road, Rancho Palos Verdes. Ms.
Larue related the history of landslides in Barkentine Canyon. Ms.
Larue and Vice Chairman Mowlds were not able to tour the canyon
since the last meeting. They will make another attempt and Vice
Chairman Mowlds said they will bring back some photographs.
Commissioner Vannorsdall said he would be interested in going
along.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Hayes moved, seconded by Vice Chairman Mowlds to
adjourn. Motion carried (7-0) and the meeting was duly adjourned
at 8:12 P.M.
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Next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is on Tuesday, May
10, 1994 at 7:00 P.M. at the Hesse Park Community Building.
(a:JD MINUTES 113 - MIN4.26)
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