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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 14, 1992
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Katherman at 7:10 p.m. at
Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. The Pledge of
Allegiance followed.
PRESENT Commissioners Alberio, Byrd, Clark, Hayes, Lorenzen,
Mowlds, Chairman Katherman
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Dudley
Onderdonk, Planning Administrator Carolynn Petru, Associate Planners
Terry Silverman and Joel Rojas, and Assistant Planners Fabio de
Freitas, Paul Espe and Kim Klopfenstein.
REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Staff
Planning Administrator Petru distributed to Commissioners letters and
reports related to agenda items, and a new road map of the Palos
Verdes Peninsula provided by the Chamber of Commerce. Director
Onderdonk reminded Commissioners that the Peninsula is the best place
in Southern California to be during periods of seismic activity.
B. commission
Commissioner Alberio advised that the date of the retreat for
Commissioners and Staff has been changed to August 29, 1992.
Commissioner Byrd reported that the City Council had just heard an
appeal of a case which the Planning Commission had approved with
stringent conditions, but they had not been provided with minutes
approved by the Planning commission. He said he wanted the Council
to understand why the Commission took the action they did, asked that
the Council be made aware that the minutes were not approved, and
requested that Commissioners be notified of scheduled appeals and
that the Chairman and Vice Chairman be provided with copies of the
Council packets. There was general agreement that the rationale for
decisions made by the Planning Commission should be made clear to
City Council members in the minutes and the staff reports prepared
for Council.
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MOTION: Commissioner Hayes moved, seconded by Commissioner Mowlds,
that the City Council be requested not to hear an appeal unless they
have been provided with minutes approved by the Planning commission.
There being no objection, it was so ordered by Chairman Katherman.
Staff was requested to prepare a policy statement reflecting the
motion and bring it back to the Planning Commission for approval on
the Consent Calendar.
Chairman Katherman reported he had received a copy of the San Marino
design review ordinance. He also advised that he had discussed with
the Mayor his wish to have Planning Commission meetings begin at 7:30
instead of 7:00 p.m., and the Mayor said it would be fine if Staff
concurred. Staff indicated they had no objections, but the change
would take four to six weeks to implement.
MOTION: Chairman Katherman moved, seconded by Commissioner Byrd,
that the starting time of Planning Commission meetings be changed to
7:30 p.m. unless a special agenda item required moving the time to
7:00 p.m. There being no objection, it was so ordered by Chairman
Katherman.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of April 28, 1992
Commissioner Hayes requested an addition to paragraph 7 of page
6 (regarding Variance No. 325, Dr. Gary Rinzler, 28105 Golden Meadow
Drive), to read:
Commissioners objecting to the project discussed: the change
would have created a 10 -ft. long double driveway, which is
against the current development code; the proposed third curb
cut to allow for three vehicles to be parked in the front of the
residence; their concern over aesthetics; possible alternative
play yard locations; and their feelings that the request
resulted from the many previous modifications to the subject
property.
Commissioner Byrd requested a change to paragraph VIII.b. on page 12
to reflect that he resides near the subject property, not within 300
feet of it, as stated in the draft minutes.
B. Minutes of June 9, 1992
Commissioner Byrd requested the following change to paragraph 7
of page 2:
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Commissioner Byrd suggested one meeting in the month of August
or September be omitted to allow staff to get caught up.
Commissioner Clark noted that the next paragraph should be changed to
reflect that he was the one who felt the Council appointed seven
commissioners instead of five in case of absences.
Minor typographical errors were also noted.
C. P.C. Resolution No. 92-44; adopting a Negative Declaration for
Environmental Assessment No. 635 and approving Conditional Use
Permit No. 168, Variance No. 329, and Grading Permit No. 1627
located at 26231 Silver Spur Road
Commissioner Hayes noted that Section 2 on page 1 of the
Resolution should read 11 ... the building setbacks for the new
construction will not exceed Development Code Standards ... 11
Commissioner Mowlds asked that the last sentence of paragraph 4 of
the Conditions of Approval (page 5) read, "The individual components
of the cross shall not exceed three inches in width." He pointed out
that the word "diameter" is not appropriate since it has not been
determined that the components will be round, and that the painting
and construction of the cross is to be chosen by the Church.
MOTION: Commissioner Byrd moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
that the Consent Calendar be approved as amended. There being no
objection, it was so ordered by Chairman Katherman.
NEW BUSINESS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 23 - REVISION 'WW', GRADING PERMIT
NO. 1638; Josephine Lee, 32519 Seacliff Drive.
MOTION: Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Lorenzen,
to accept the request of the applicant to withdraw the requested
Conditional Use Permit. There being no objection, it was so ordered
by Chairman Katherman.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 737 - APPEAL; Mahesh A. Sejpal, 5724
Scotwood.
Reauested Action: overturn the Director's denial of Height
Variation No. 737 for a proposed second story addition.
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Recommendation: Uphold the
proposed modified 879 square
to conditions of approval.
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appeal thereby approving the
foot second story addition subject
Assistant Planner Espe presented the Staff Report on this appeal,
pointing out that these plans are the fourth submittal for the
proposed project. The style and materials to be used are compatible
with neighboring residences; however, the majority of the proposed
addition is 26 feet in height. Staff has suggested a one -foot height
reduction be made on the west elevation near the proposed master
bedroom. The architect has said he will consider this request, but
has not yet agreed to it. The 26' height is the maximum allowed by
the Code.
Kamlesh Parikh, the project architect, stated that he is requesting
the 26' height in case it is needed, but will attempt to keep it
under 26' as much as possible.
Commissioners discussed requiring that the windows on the west
elevation be opaque to preserve privacy, as the neighboring residence
on that side is only five feet away. Since there is a much greater
distance to the east side neighbor, there was general agreement that
the windows on the east elevation did not need to be opaque.
MOTION: Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
approval of the appeal of Height Variation No. 737, not to exceed 26
feet, with the added requirement that both windows in the master
suite on the west elevation be opaque because of the proximity of the
neighboring property on that side. The motion passed 6-1, with
Commissioner Alberio dissenting based on his opinion that the windows
should be opaque on both sides of the house or on neither. Chairman
Katherman directed that appropriate changes be made to the Conditions
of Approval.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 169 ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO.
636; Montessori School, 28915 Northbay Road.
Requested Action: Allow Peninsula Montessori School No. 3 to
provide supervision and education for a maximum of 350 pre-
school and elementary school students.
Recommendation: Adopt the Negative Declaration and approve the
Conditional Use Permit with conditions, thereby approving the
request.
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The Staff Report was presented by Assistant Planner de Freitas, who
pointed out that the enrollment at Ridgecrest School at one time had
a high of 1200 students, whereas the proposed Montessori School
enrollment will be capped at 350. Commissioner Clark suggested that
the City verify that this number is not exceeded by requiring
submission of an enrollment list at the beginning of each school
year, similar to the system utilized for Marymount School.
Mr. J. J. D. McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South, urged denial of
the request. He cited a need for special education classes and
stated his opinion that public school property should be used to
provide additional help for those students in the Palos Verdes
Unified School District who have not learned to read well enough to
keep up with their classroom studies.
Mr. David Hostetler, 29221 Whitley Collins, testified that he lives
across the street from the school property and feels that use of the
property by the Montessori School will generate much more traffic
than the streets are designed for. He suggested that a car pooling
or busing system be required, and mentioned his concern about parking
during evening use of the facilities.
In reply to Commissioner Alberio's observation that the site was in
use as a school when Mr. Hostetler moved into the area, Mr. Hostetler
stated that he would not object if it were to be used as a public
school but did object to private school use of the property.
Representing Peninsula Montessori School No. 3, Ms. Claudia
Krikorian, 990 Paseo la Cresta, PVE, said that she has distributed a
questionnaire to parents asking about their interest in car pooling
but has not yet received replies. Regarding evening parking, she
stated that each year there would be one evening open house for the
parents, with occasional small parent meetings at other times. The
present enrollment for the school year beginning this fall is 210,
and many of them are siblings, so she does not think the traffic will
be burdensome. Ms. Krikorian has been operating Montessori Schools
for 14 years. She stated that she has signed a five-year lease with
the School District which has two additional five-year options. She
said she has no objections to the Conditions of Approval.
Mr. John White, District Administrator for the Palos Verdes Unified
School District, was present to answer questions from Commissioners.
MOTION: Commissioner Hayes, seconded by Commissioner Alberio, moved
to close the public hearing. motion passed without objection.
The difference between the two-year term for the Conditional Use
Permit and the five-year term of the lease was discussed, with
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Commissioners Mowlds and Alberio suggesting a five-year CUP to
correspond with the District lease. Assistant Planner de Freitas
explained that it has been the practice of the Planning Commission to
approve CUP's for two-year periods with extension allowances, but the
Development Code grants Commissioners discretion to decide the length
of operation.
Mr. White advised that there was no escape clause in the lease but it
contains a stipulation that should the public school population
increase to the point where the District needs the site, the tenant
may be required to vacate the premises upon 18 months notification.
Other points of discussion were the fee connected with renewing the
CUP ($100) and the maintenance of the property. Mr. White explained
that the District is responsible for mowing the lawns, maintaining
the athletic fields, and general outside maintenance, while the
tenant is responsible for maintaining the interior of the buildings
they occupy.
MOTION: Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner
Lorenzen, adoption of the Negative Declaration and approval of the
Conditional Use Permit, with the Conditions of Approval changed to
specify a five-year permit period.
Commissioner Clark suggested an additional condition specifying a
student enrollment cap of 350, to be validated by the submission of
enrollment lists at the beginning of each academic year. other
suggested revisions to the motion included a stipulation that a
parking management plan and traffic circulation plan be submitted to
the Director of Environmental Services, and that extension requests
for the CUP be publicly noticed.
Commissioner Mowlds revised the motion to add to the Conditions of
Approval a student enrollment cap of 350, the submission of parking
and traffic circulation plans, and the requirement that extension
requests be publicly noticed. commissioner Lorenzen seconded the
revised motion, which passed 4-3. Votes against the motion were made
by Commissioners Byrd and Clark and Chairman Katherman, who wanted
review of the CUP in two years instead of five.
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 170, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO.
637; Korean Church, 28915 Northbay Road.
Requested Action: Allow the use of several modules on a former
school site for the purposes of conducting church services (60-
70 parishioners), Sunday School, and Bible study classes (25
children).
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Recommendation: Adopt the Negative Declaration and approve the
Conditional Use Permit with conditions, thereby approving the
request.
In presenting the Staff Report, Assistant Planner de Freitas noted
that the proposed worship services on Sunday mornings and Bible study
classes on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings would not conflict with use
of the same site by the Montessori School.
Chairman Katherman opened the public hearing. Reverend Kim, the
Pastor of the Palos Verdes Korean Church, was not present to testify
but Mr. de Freitas stated that he had agreed to the Conditions of
Approval. Mr. John White, speaking for the Palos Verdes Unified
School District, said their agreement with the church is for a one-
year period.
Commissioner Hayes moved, seconded by Commissioner Lorenzen, to close
the public hearing. motion passed without objection.
MOTION: Chairman Katherman moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
acceptance of the Staff recommendation to approve the request. There
being no obiection, it was so ordered.
RECESS AND RECONVENE - The meeting recessed for a break at 9:00 p.m.
and reconvened at 9:15 p.m.
D. COASTAL PERMIT NO. I - REVISION; Lunada Point Homeowners
Association (Bruce Burrell), Tract No. 40640 (Marguerite Drive
at Palos Verdes Drive South).
Requested Action: Revise Coastal Permit No. 1 in association
with a related request for modification to conditions of
approval for Tract No. 40640 requiring public access to the
coastline from the terminus of Marguerite Drive.
Recommendation: Deny the request.
Due to the time, and the expectation that the public hearing and
discussion of Item VI.0 (Salvation Army) would extend past midnight,
it was suggested that Item VI.D be continued.
MOTION: Commissioner Alberio moved, seconded by Commissioner
Lorenzen, to continue the public hearing on Coastal Permit No. 1,
Revision, to the meeting of July 28, 1992, and to place it on the
agenda as the first public hearing for that meeting. As there was no
objection, chairman Katherman so ordered.
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C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 92 - REVISION D, VARIANCE NO. 270,
GRADING PERMIT NO. 1485, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT NO. 616;
Salvation Army, 30840 Hawthorne Boulevard.
Requested Action: Allow a 15 year master plan buildout of the
Salvation Army Western Territorial Headquarters. Allow a 72,000
square foot Education/Conference Center with 62 temporary
building units, 2,400 square feet of conference/meeting room
space and a dining facility for 150 people; a 22,500 square foot
cadet housing structure containing 114 residential units; three
additional single family residences; two office buildings
totaling 13,800 square feet; and a 28,700 square foot athletic
facility.
Recommendation: open the public hearing, review the proposed
Master Plan, provide staff with direction, and continue the item
to July 28, 1992.
In presenting the Staff Report, Associate Planner Rojas emphasized
that the required certification of the EIR would not mean approval of
the 15 -year master plan. He said that Staff is not recommending
action at this meeting, but would like to be provided with overall
direction by the Commissioners as to how they would like the project
to proceed. He noted that the applicant has modified the guest
facility in response to concerns expressed as to the size and bulk of
the structure as seen from Palos Verdes Drive South.
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Expressing their opinion that the term covered by the master plan is
too long to approve, Commissioners Byrd, Mowlds,�PanrYHayes pointed out
that the water situation, air quality, traffic and other conditions
are impossible to predict for more than a few years. Chairman
Katherman explained that it is required that the EIR identify the
entire project, but through the Conditional Use Permit process any or
all parts of the project may be approved or denied by the Commission.
Each time a new phase of the project comes up the EIR can be
supplemented and brought up to date.
Associate Planner Rojas suggested that the Commission might like to
limit their approval to the CUP for the Education/Conference Center
(ECC) at this time. He said the 15 -year master plan had been
requested by the City Council, and the,EIR is acceptable to Staff.
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Director Onderdonk reiterated that the EIR is an informational
document, and its certification does not mean approval of the
project. He said Staff is requesting conceptual direction in order
to come back with a decision package at the next meeting.
Chairman Katherman opened the public hearing.
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Mr. Tom Holm, Environmental Director of The Keith Companies, costa
Mesa, replied to questions concerning the EIR.
Major Kenneth Gibson, Salvation Army, testified that when the project
was begun two years ago the City wanted a 15 -year master plan and
EIR, which were a major expense. They are now seeking guidance and
approval of the project, which he feels will be of benefit to the
City. He pointed out that the Salvation Army pays property taxes,
sales taxes, general and special assessments, and they are one of the
largest employers on the Peninsula. They are law-abiding, have not
been a burden to the city, and provide a disaster center in cases of
fire, earthquake or other emergencies. He added that the public
would be invited to use the new facilities when they are not in use
by the Salvation Army.
Mr. Thomas Hause, HRC Consultants, described the latest efforts to
reduce the size of the ECC. He presented photographs showing how
the building would appear from PV Drive South, with overlays
demonstrating the effects of landscaping in screening the project.
He displayed a model of the proposed ECC the way it looked prior to
being redesigned.
Mr. Sam Horwood, 38703 Blythewood Drive, spoke as a concerned citizen
of Rancho Palos Verdes as well as a member of the Salvation Army
Board of Directors. He urged Commissioners to take into account the
greater good of the organization and its service to the public, and
approve the project.
Mr. Richard Cooney, 5911 Birchmont Drive, expressed his view that
what the Salvation Army is doing enhances the quality of life not
only in Palos Verdes but in the 13 Western states it serves. Noting
that all the activities in the Conference Center will help people
with needs, he encouraged approval of the project.
Mr. James Hartman, 32859 Seagate Drive, stated he volunteers for the
Salvation Army and the facility contributes much to the County of Los
Angeles. He feels that as the 15 -year plan was requested by the City
and the project is modest, it should receive a good faith review by
the Commission.
Ms. Jeannette G. Mucha, 5538 Littlebow Road, representing the RPV
Council of Homeowners, requested a reduction in the size of the
facility to no more than 30 feet in height. As the Council of
Homeowners had not seen the latest plans, Chairman Katherman
suggested that the architect meet with the Council to show them the
revised project plans.
Mr. Russell Schweiger, 30828 Via La Cresta, spoke for the La Cresta
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Homeowners Association in observing that although the Salvation Army
is a good neighbor, they have some concerns regarding visual impact,
noise and traffic. He stated the EIR did not adequately address the
concerns of the neighbors to the north of the property, who will be
seriously impacted by the construction noise. He also felt that the
project will be very visible from that area and should not be allowed
to exceed 30 feet in height. Additionally, he advised that traffic
at the intersection of Vallon and Hawthorne is at a dangerous level
now, and requested consideration of a stoplight at that corner when
conditions warrant.
Ms. Elizabeth Kelley, 6611 Vallon Drive, agreed with Mr. Schweiger
that the proposed building is much too high. She pointed out that
there is no accurate figure on the increase in vehicle trips per day
when all projects are built out, and urged caution in approving this
project.
Commissioner Clark and Chairman Katherman suggested that a special
meeting be held for discussion of this project only, because of its
size and complexity.
Ms. Ann Richardson, 30823 Cartier Drive, objected to the loss of the
Racquet Club in the year 2000.
Mr. Martin Melnick, 30845 Via La Cresta, asserted that inadequate
notification was given to concerned residents and he thought a
separate meeting to discuss this project would be beneficial. He did
not understand why such a massive structure was needed, and wondered
what the facility was really to be used for. He expressed his
concern about additional traffic on Hawthorne Boulevard.
Mr. Robert King, 30764 Via La Cresta, voiced his concerns about the
size of the structure, its intrusion into his view, noise, and the
possibility of slope modifications adding to already existing
geological problems.
Ms. Loretta Westlund, 6756 Vallon Drive, spoke as President of the La
Cresta Homeowners Association, expressing their concerns about visual
impact and traffic. She suggested closing the Hawthorne exit from
the facility, and invited Commissioners to visit her area and see how
close they are to the project.
Replying to Chairman Katherman's wish to set up an additional public
hearing, Associate Planner Rojas advised that since the application
is accompanied by an EIR, CEQA allows as many reasonable extensions
as it takes to certify the report. The applicant may grant the City
additional time extensions, if needed, after September 30, 1992.
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MOTION: Commissioner Clark
that conceptual approval for
granted at this meeting. Mo
Alberio dissenting.
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moved, seconded by commissioner mowlds,
a 15 -year master plan of the site not be
tion passed 6-1, with Commissioner
MOTION: Commissioner Byrd moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
that the Education/Conference Center be considered first. Notion
passed 6-1, with Commissioner Alberio dissenting.
There was a discussion of Commissioner Hayes, suggestion that the
traffic problems be presented to the Traffic Committee. Associate
Planner Rojas noted that although the Traffic Committee members are
not traffic engineers, they can provide additional input and comments
on the issues raised. It was decided to request Traffic Committee
consideration of signalization, stop signs, traffic at the corner of
Vallon and Hawthorne, and possibly closing the entry off Hawthorne to
the Salvation Army facility.
In discussing the height, bulk and mass of the building, it was felt
that a view impact study is needed from the Via La Cresta area,
including a photographic study. Various alternatives were enumerated
and discussed regarding deleting the top floor, designing a longer
and lower building, limiting the height of the structure to 30 feet
as measured from the finished grade adjacent to the perimeter
foundation of the building, or limiting it to 30 feet from the
existing grade with the possibility of grading down and setting the
building in the graded bowl, or building two separate two-story
buildings.
The Planning Commission agreed that requiring one parking space per
every two conference attendees (based on maximum occupancy) would be
an appropriate parking standard to use for the proposed ECC.
MOTION: Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
to continue the public hearing to a special meeting at 7:00 p.m. on
August 20, 1992 at Hesse Park. There being no objection, it was so
ordered by Chairman Katherman. Staff was requested to notify
neighbors, homeowners associations and the RPV Council of Homeowners
Associations.
QUESTIONS FROM AUDIENCE
None.
The meeting was adjourned at 12:37 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., July 28, 1992.
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