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PLANNING COMMISSION ADJOURNED MEETING
MARCH 41 1992
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman
Katherman at the City Hall Community Center, 30940 Hawthorne
Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes.
PRESENT: Commissioners Byrd, Mowlds, Lorenzen, Clark,
Hayes, and Chairman Katherman.
ABSENT: Commissioner Alberio
Also present were Acting Director of Environmental Services
Carolynn Petru, Assistant Planner Fabio de Freitas, and
recording secretary Priscilla Sperry.
COMMISSION REPORTS
Commissioner Clark suggested that the Planning Commission
discuss the length of the meetings and stated that the
process needs to be examined. He suggested that a
subcommittee be set up prior to the next meeting to develop
rules of procedure. The members of the subcommittee will be
Chairman Katherman, Commissioners Mowlds and Clark. This
item should be considered at the adjourned meeting of March
19th.
Commissioner Clark moved to establish a subcommittee to
review the process of the Public Hearings. Commissioner
Hayes seconded the motion, and the motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VTTM NO. 49067, CUP Assistant Planner Fabio de
154, GRADING NO. Freitas presented the staff
1420, EA NO. 600, report addressing the
COASTAL PERMIT NO. 95 building size, layout of
TRANSAMERICA-YACHT HARBOR the homes, articulation and
setbacks for the project.
The request is to approve the subdivision of 18.33 acres of
vacant land within the Portuguese Bend Club into fourteen
total lots (ten residential lots and 4 common open space
lots). He stated that the applicant had provided the
Commission with hypothetical plot plans for the ten homes to
demonstrate how the proposed setback and articulation
criteria would affect the site planning of the structures and
to show the relationships of the homes to each other. Mr. de
Freitas is requesting that the Commission provide Staff with
direction on house sites, the variance request from the
Coastal Setback Line, a designation for Lot 14 (common area
open space or restrictive) and the conditions of approval.
Chairman Katherman submitted for the record copies of notes
of the meeting he had with the developer along with
Commissioners Byrd, Pederson -Hayes and Councilwoman Brooks on
February 19, 1992 at the Sheraton Hotel in San Pedro. Also
present were Attorney Howard Coleman, Architect Bruce Arita,
Landscape architect Lee Ann Kirby and representing
Transamerica was Lyman Lokken. The items discussed at that
meeting were layout of homes and proposed driveway locations.
Bruce Arita presented various sideyard alternatives and how
the homes would relate to each other. Also discussed was the
upper floor articulation, open courtyards and overall house
size.
Lyman K. Lokken, 1150 S. olive St., Ste. 2200, L.A., CA
90015, representing Transamerica Development stated he would
be available to answer any questions after the presentation
by Lee Ann Kirby.
Lee Ann Kirby, 580 Broadway, Ste. 200, Laguna Beach,
Landscape architect for Transamerica Development. Ms Kirby
presented a hypothetical plot plan with two design elements
(site plan and articulation). The purpose of this
hypothetical plot plan was to demonstrate how the proposed
setback and articulation criteria would affect the site
planning of the structures to show the relationships of the
homes to each other. The front yard setback would have a
variation of distance between Yacht Harbor Dr. To establish s
more open layout and cut down on the mass of the home,
courtyards have been recommended with the courtyard being an
integral part of the design of the home. Lots 1 and 10 would
require an additional courtyard to be located in the center
of the house. No two car garages would be facing PVDS and
would be side loaded driving into the courtyard. The
footprint would be no greater than the minimum open space
requirement of 49.5% More landscaping area has been
proposed.
Sharon Solari, 4145 PVDS, thanked the Planning Commission for
listening and responding to the concerns of the residents
within the Sea View Homeowner's Association. She stated that
she would like to see the developer cooperate with Seaview's
HOA's to upgrade the entrance of their tract and landscape
the center median on Palos Verdes Drive South. She stated
she was in favor of the courtyard concept.
Chairman Katherman asked Ms Solari if she has any other areas
of concern with the development.
Ms. Solari responded she had a concern with (fireplaces in
the side yard and the closeness of the homes to each other.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, testified that she supported the
General Plan and Coastal Specific Plan. She expressed
disapproval of the architectural design due to lack of
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neighborhood capability. She also testified that she
objected to the driveway being considered part of the
courtyard and stated that the project was not consistent with
the General Plan and Coastal Specific Plan.
Chairman Katherman asked Ms Larue what size home did she feel
would be compatible.
Ms Larue replied that should be the decision of the Planning
Commission.
Gar Goodson, 1909 Via Subida, PVE, urged the Planning
Commission to refer to pages 39 through 45 of the General
Plan where Environmental Impact policies relating to coastal
bluff developments are clearly specified and are subject to
an Environmental Impact Report. He testified that by not
having an EIR would be in violation of Land Use Planning Law
as laid down by the California Supreme Court, a violation of
CEQA and a violation of the General Plan and Coastal Specific
Plan. He stated that the Planning Commission should insist
on an EIR. Mr. Goodson also expressed concerns of
neighborhood compatibility of the proposed homes.
Chairman Katherman responded that these issues had been
examined at great length in previous meetings and that the
Commission was informed by the City's and applicant's
geologist that the entire portion of the subject proposed
property was geologically sound. He also stated that the
City Attorney had found no environmental impacts which could
not be mitigated.
Johm McCarthy, 105 Spindrift Dr., President of Portuguese
Bend Club Homeowners, stated he had concerns in regard to the
new fencing property tying in with existing fencing so there
are no gaps. He also stated concerns as to the hours of
operation (Monday thru Friday) 7 a.m. - 7 p.m., especially on
Saturday being 7 a.m. - 5 p.m. and would prefer the hours to
be set earlier so as not to interfere with beach club
membership activities. He testified that the main drain on
the beach is already burdened with the existing population
and this pipe should be moved out further towards the ocean
with the new development. Mr. McCarthy stated that care
should be taken to have proper property drainage on top of
the bluff located close to Lot #1. He also asked that
Condition #13 on the Draft Conditions of Approval be amended
striking "or any public street" and adding haul route plan
condition with notice to adjacent homeowners association.
Chairman Katherman asked Mr. McCarthy's opinion of size of
lots and what time restriction should be set on construction
hours.
Mr. McCarthy responded that this should be a decision of the
Planning Commission.
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Commissioner Byrd stated that they had listened to testimony
at the last meeting for over an hour on geology and felt
confident and satisfied with the Mitigated Negative
Declaration proposed by Staff.
Commissioner Byrd approved of the articulation but was
concerned with the size of the homes and what assurance would
there be that the developer would build this type of home.
He stated concerns with the mass of the homes and closeness
to each other, as the lots were so narrow.
Commissioner Hayes stated that the homes were too large and
would like to see a reduction. She stated approval of the
architectural design.
Commissioner Lorenzen approved of the style but was concerned
with the size of the homes and spaces between each.
Commissioner Mowlds was concerned with 6' masonry walls
between homes which would reduce space between homes further,
and that this would make the side yards look narrower. He
also voiced concerns with the future sewer easement
connection for homes in the lower club area, and stated that
the roofs should be uniform in color.
Commissioner Clark requested that the homes be reduced to
5,000 S.F.
Commissioner Mowlds stated that the square footage of the
home should include the garage.
Acting Director Carolynn Petru responded that for residential
uses, that the garage and courtyard would be considered non -
habitable and only the habitable space would be considered as
square footage. Ms. Petru also stated that a 50% credit has
been given for turf block in courtyards and driveways in the
past.
Commissioner Clark asked if an increase in the percentage of
coverage in the future could be done with a minor CUP
revision and that he felt that the maximum size of the home
should be 5,000 S.F.
Ms. Petru stated that a major revision to the Conditional Use
Permit would be required if a larger home is to be built in
the future.
Commissioner Mowlds responded that since there is no City
Architectural Review Committee, that some kind of provision
should be made necessary in order to control possibility of a
larger home being built.
Chairman Katherman stated he felt a major revision to a CUP
would be reasonable means of control. He also responded that
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he thought the size of the homes were too large, but he was
in favor of the proposed articulation.
Commissioner Byrd moved to restrict livable space square
footage on lots 1 and 10 to 6,000 S.F. and for the remaining
lots 2 through 9 to be 5,000 S.F. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Hayes, and the motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Clark moved to limit the second story square
footage on lots 2 thru 9 to 2,000 S.F. Commissioners Hayes
seconded the motion and the motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Katherman asked what procedure should be established
to amend this ruling in the future.
Ms. Petru responded that a major revision to the Conditional
Use Permit, with noticing to adjacent Homeowner Association.
Commissioner Mowlds moved to designate Lot 14 common area
open space /non -habitable. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Byrd, and the motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Clark stated that he was in favor of open space
with a recreational use.
Commissioner Mowlds responded that the Commission could wait
2 years before asking a decision on common lot use.
Chairman Katherman agreed.
Ms. Petru responded that the 2 year period would normally
begin with the final map date recorded.
Commissioner Clark moved that thee start of the 2 years
should begin after the exhaustion of all appeals (including
the Coastal Commission). Commissioner Hayes seconded the
motion, and the motion passed unanimously.
Recess was called at 9:40 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 9:12 p.m.
Chairman Katherman suggested that a clause be added on pg.1
of 7 in Draft Tract Map Conditions of Approval to include
Portuguese Bend Club in connection of the sewer. He also was
concerned with legality of #4 and #5 under Drainage (pg.4 of
7) and recommended they be removed.
Commissioner Mowlds requested that 3 items be added on pg. 4
of 7 under Draft Tract Map Conditions of Approval as follows:
6. The developer is to provide a connection from the
existing 24" RCP that is under PVDS at Lot #14 and
continue the new 241' RCP to the point that presently
is shown in Lot #1.
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7. The developer is to provide a gutter (with
surface grating) across Yacht Harbor Drive at Lot
#1.
8. The outfall of the existing 24" RCP shall be
extended to the high water line.
Commissioner Mowlds moved to incorporate as separate entity
in the Draft CUP Conditions of Approval as Item W. pct. 18 of
18. Special Rules requirement - any amendments require the
approval of the City. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Byrd, and the motion passed unanimously.
Chairman Katherman requested addition of a provision in Draft
Tract Map requiring that the developer coordinate with Sea
View Homeowners Association when landscaping the median to
stub out water service.
Commissioner Clark moved to approve project subject to
conditions and bring back 3 resolutions onto the Consent
Calendar at the adjourned meeting of March 19, 1992. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Lorenzen, and the motion
passed unanimously.
There were no questions from the audience.
The meeting adjourned at 10:37 p.m.