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M I N U T E S (T)
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 11, 1992
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman
Katherman at the City Hall Community Room, 30940 Hawthorne
Boulevard. The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
II. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS ALBERIO, BYRD, CLARK, HAYES,
LORENZEN, MOWLDS AND CHAIRMAN KATHERMAN.
ABSENT: NONE.
ALSO PRESENT: ACTING DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES
CAROLYNN PETRU; ASSOCIATE PLANNER JOEL
ROJAS; ASSISTANT PLANNER FABIO DE FREITAS;
ASSISTANT PLANNER DONNA JEREX; AND
ASSISTANT PLANNER MIKE PATTERSON.
The Commission welcomed new Planning Commissioners Alberio
and Lorenzen.
III. REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. STAFF
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru dis-
tributed the League of California Cities' Planning Commissioner
Handbooks and the Local Government Commission's "Livable Places
Update" to the Commission. She announced that the California
Cities' Planners' Institute is scheduled for April 9 - 11, 1992
in the City of Anaheim and the Planning Commission field trip to
Pelican Pointe Golf Course is scheduled for Saturday,
February 22, 1992.
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B. COMMISSION
Chairman Katherman noted the joint Planning Commission/City
Council Workshop scheduled for 7;00 PM on Monday,
February 24, 1992, at Hesse Park.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. TENTATIVE PARCEL NO. 18397, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
NO. 620; RICHARD POCAPALIA, 10 ROCKINGHORSE
Because he resides within 300 feet of the subject property,
Chairman Katherman abstained from consideration of the project.
Vice -Chairman Byrd conducted the public hearing.
Assistant Planner Donna Jerex presented the staff report
with staff's recommendation for approval of the project with con-
ditions.
Vice -Chairman Byrd opened the public hearing.
Applicant Rich Pocapalia, 10 Rockinghorse Road, stated his
agreement with the recommended conditions.
Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
to close the public hearing. There being no objection, it was so
ordered.
Commissioner Hayes moved for the approval of Tentative Par-
cel No. 18397 and Environmental Assessment No. 620, including
Conditions of Approval recommended by staff. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Clark and, there being no objection, it
was so ordered (with Chairman Katherman abstaining).
Appeal rights were noted.
B. TENTATIVE PARCEL NO. 19929, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
NO. 618; MR. AND MRS. LELAND VOELTZ, 29085 PALOS
VERDES DRIVE EAST
Assistant Planner Mike Patterson presented the staff report
with staff's recommendation for approval of the project with con-
ditions. He confirmed that the property is serviced by a private
road and that the Fire Department is satisfied with the design of
the project.
Chairman Katherman opened the public hearing.
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Property Owner Leland Voeltz, 29085 Palos Verdes Drive East,
described the proposed access; confirmed that the existing trees
at the edge of the turning circle would be retained; and stated
his agreement with the recommended conditions.
Chairman Katherman suggested that the mature Pine trees at
the northeasterly corner of the site be retained and that the
access easement be improved to 20 feet in width to the point of
the driveway or the driveway access be taken from the cul-de-sac.
Assistant Planner Patterson mentioned staff's understanding
of the applicant's intent to remove a tree to improve the harbor
view. Chairman Katherman expressed his feeling that the ap-
pplicant should not be required to remove trees to provide a
large turning circle.
Commissioner Byrd moved, seconded by Commissioner Alberio,
to close the public hearing. There being no objection, it was so
ordered.
Commissioner Clark moved for the approval of Tentative Par-
cel No. 19929 and Environmental Assessment No. 618, including
Conditions of Approval recommended by staff, adding the following
condition:
o That the driveway access shall be widened to 20 feet
in width to the point of the driveway or the driveway
access shall be taken from the cul-de-sac.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hayes and passed by un-
animous roll call vote.
Appeal rights were noted.
C. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 704 - REVISION APPEAL;
MR. AND MRS. PHIL PETERSON (APPLICANT),
MR. AND MRS. NORMAN GEIS (APPELLANT), 3103 DIANORA
Chairman Alberio abstained from consideration of the project
because of his acquaintance with the applicants' family.
Associate Planner Joel Rojas presented the staff report with
staff's recommendation for denial of the appeal, thereby uphold-
ing the Director's approval of the project. He explained that
the City is not empowered to enforce CC&Rs, the maximum square
footage for a one-story house on the subject property would be
5,456 square feet and that the footprint would not be changed
with the construction of the project as proposed.
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Chairman Katherman opened the public hearing.
Residents speaking in favor of the appeal began with Appel-
lant Norman Geis, 3351 Deluna Drive, who asked that Commissioner
Clark excuse himself from the proceedings because he resides in
the same neighborhood as the subject property.
Commissioner Clark explained that he resides within 1,200
feet of the property. However, he has had no personal involve-
ment with the project or the property owners.
Referring to written material he distributed to the Commis-
sion, Mr. Geis stressed his opinion that alternatives not requir-
ing a Height Variation are available to the applicant. He em-
phasized his concern over• the setting of a precedent for two-
story additions, bulk/mass; neighborhood compatibility; and
potential loss of privacy, light and air, views and property
values. Mr. Geis asked that the CC&Rs be enforced and confirmed
that the project would be the first two-story home in the neigh-
borhood.
Chairman Katherman advised Mr. Geis that it is not within
the Commission's purview to take property values into account or
to enforce CC&Rs and that, according to the Code, any view from a
structure that required or would have required a Height Variation
is not protected.
Other residents relating their support of the appeal in-
cluded the following:
Mr.
Maurice Keller
3139
Dianora
Drive
Mr.
Edward Johnson
3320
Deluna
Drive
Mr.
Neal Patterson
3130
Dianora
Drive
Ms.
Ava Shepherd
3117
Dianora
Drive
Ms.
Diane Geis
3351
Deluna
Drive
Other residents speaking in favor of the appeal related
their concern over: the setting of a precedent for two-story
additions; potential loss of light and air, privacy, property
values and the open feeling of the community, as well as poten-
tial loss of views from 3320 Deluna Drive (Johnson residence) and
3117 Dianora Drive (Shepherd residence). They asked that the
CC&Rs be enforced.
Residents speaking in favor of the project included the
following•
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Ms.
Lynne Tabah
3348
Corinna Drive
Ms.
Myra Walz
3302
Corinna Drive
Ms.
Barbara Kennard
3402
Deluna Drive
Mr.
Robert Roza
3102
Corinna Drive
Mr.
Robert Morton
30820
Casilina Drive
Residents speaking in favor of the project disputed resident
concerns over potential loss of privacy and property values.
Applicant Phil Peterson, 3103 Dianora Drive, noted that the
property owners at 3109 Dianora Drive support the project. He
called attention to efforts to achieve neighborhood compatibility
and comply with City Code requirements.
Project Architect Jerome Keller, 2141 General Street,
provided an extensive review of revised plans, copies of which he
distributed to the Commission.
The Commission emphasized the importance of receiving
revised plans to review them prior to Planning Commission meet-
ings.
Staff noted that the revised plans distributed to the Com-
mission by Project Architect Keller were not anticipatd and were
not presented to staff until this meeting.
Mr. Geis asked that the project be deferred or denied in
that the Commission did not have an opportunity to review the
revised plans.
After reviewing the revised plans, Acting Director of En-
vironmental Services Petru clarified that they reflect an in-
creased articulation of the first and second stories, creating
the benefit of an increased single -story roofline in front; ex-
plained how potential view impairment is also evaluated on a
cumulative impact basis; and confirmed that another Height Varia-
tions in the neighborhood was approved but never built.
Addressing resident concerns over the setting of a precedent
for two-story additions, the Commission advised that each project
is considered on a case-by-case basis.
Ms. Phyllis Weitzman (no address given) pointed out that
many residents in the neighborhood have not voiced an opinion on
the project.
Commissioner Clark stated his opinion that a determination
should not be delayed in that the revisions are not significant
and the changes proposed would be beneficial.
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Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Loren-
zen, to close the public hearing. The motion was passed by a 4-2
majority roll call vote with Commissioner Byrd and Chairman
Katherman dissenting and Commissioner Alberio abstaining.
Discussion continued with the majority of the Commissioners
stating their support of staff's recommendation for denial of the
appeal. The Commission discussed that: potential view impair-
ment is considered on a case-by-case basis; residents living in
close proximity to the property support the project; the property
is set back from the street, located on the edge of the neighbor-
hood and will not have a massive appearance; significant views
would not be impaired; and the project would meet the findings
necessary to grant approval.
Commissioner Lorenzen related his support of the appeal.
Referring to the Code, Associate Planner Rojas provided in-
formation about neighborhood compatibility.
Chairman Katherman suggested that in -fill development design
guidelines be analyzed so that, in the future, the rules regard-
ing neighborhood compatibility will be clear to applicants and
appellants.
There being no further discussion, the following motion was
offered.
Commissioner Hayes moved to deny the appeal of Height Varia-
tion No. 704 - Revision, thereby upholding the Director's ap-
proval of Height Variation No. 704 - Revision. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Mowlds and passed by a 5-1 roll call
vote with Commissioner Lorenzen dissenting and Commissioner Al-
berio abstaining.
The Commission clarified that the approval included the
revised plans submitted at the meeting.
Staff provided input with regard to restrictions against
second -dwelling units.
At 9:30 PM there was a recess until 9:45 PM when the meeting
reconvened in regular agenda order.
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D. TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 49067, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 154, GRADING NO. 1420, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
NO. 600, AND COASTAL PERMIT NO. 95, TRANSAMERICA,
PALOS VERDES DRIVE SOUTH/YACHT HARBOR DRIVE
Assistant Planner Fabio de Freitas presented the staff
report with the recommendation that the Commission review the
revised proposal (Plan C) and provide staff with direction on the
draft Conditions of Approval. He read a letter of support from
Ms. Cathy French.
The Commission commended Assistant Planner de Freitas on his
thorough staff report.
Representing Transamerica Realty, was Mr. Lyman Lokken, 1150
South Olive Street, Los Angeles. He supplied input concerning:
Transamerica's agreement with a 2,500 square foot maximum second -
story floor area for the eight middle lots; a detailed comparison
of Plan C to Plans A and B; proposed home sizes; Transamerica's
understanding that the project would be within City requirements;
efforts to break up mass/bulk, the placement of garages at the
back of the lots with driveways between the properties; and the
opportunity for the Portuguese Bend Homeowners' Association to
provide input on the project.
The Commission discussed: the idea of flat glass skylights;
hydrology; side yard setbacks; the massive appearance of the
project, and concern over garages facing Yacht Harbor Drive.
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru advised that
the City Engineer and the County Flood Control District make
recommendations with regard to hydrology.
Project Landscape Architect Lee Ann Kirby supplied input on
efforts to create open space. She explained that the average
side yard setback would be 22 feet and that, to minimize
hardscape, property owners would be encouraged to construct side -
loaded garages at the back or on the side of the lots and to use
turf pavers.
Mr. Lokken explained that: property owners would be en-
couraged to place garages at the rear of the lots; the Native
Plant Society's recommendations would be included in the CC&Rs;
the project has been discussed with the Sea View Homeowners'
Association; and the applicant would provide a sanitary sewer
hook up for future use by the lower Portuguese Bend area.
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Because of time constraints, Commission discussion turned
toward New Business.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. GRADING NO. 854 - APPEAL
MR. LARRY ANDERSON, 1941 UPLAND
At this time, the Commission agreed to continue New Business
Item A, Grading No. 854 - Appeal, Mr. Larry Anderson, 1941
Upland.
Commissioner Alberio moved, seconded by Commissioner Clark,
to continue Grading No. 854 - Appeal. There being no objection,
it was so ordered.
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru advised that
this item will be returned to the Commission on March 10, 1992.
Discussion of Tentative Tract No. 49067, Conditional Use
Permit No. 154, Grading No. 1420, Environmental Assessment No.
600 and Coastal Permit No. 95, Transamerica, Palos Verdes Drive
South/Yacht Harbor Drive, continued.
Mr. Jack Jones, 4225 Palos Verdes Drive South, discussed his
appreciation of the applicant's efforts to mitigate potential
view impairment and his wife's concern over the large size of
the homes, particularly on Lots 1 and 10. He asked that the
project be conditioned to include a requirement that the ap-
plicant improve the median strip along Palos Verdes Drive South.
Assistant Planner de Freitas explained that improvement of
the median strip along Palos Verdes Drive south is not a Condi-
tion of Approval at this time.
Mr. John McCarthy, 105 Spindrift Drive, Portuguese Bend
Homeowners' Association, expressed his disagreement with recom-
mendations made in a letter written by Mr. John Sharkey regarding
the Environmental Impact Report and public access. He suggested
that: construction hours be restricted on weekends; vehicles ac-
cessing the property use the construction gate; garages be placed
away from the front of the lots; Lot 14 be utilized as common
open space dedicated to the Portuguese Bend Club; and that the
Portuguese Bend Club remain private. Mr. McCarthy stated his
agreement with rolled curbs and the realignment of Yacht Harbor
Drive.
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Ms. Sharon Solari, 4145 Palos Verdes Drive South, Seaview
Homeowners' Association, asked that: Lot 14 be utilized as common
open space dedicated to the Portuguese Bend Club; a sanitary
sewer hook-up be provided for the lower Portuguese Bend area; and
that hydrology be worked out prior to the Tract Map approval.
She voiced her concern over the ridge height of the home on Lot
1.
Mr. Joseph Lindorfer, 4207 Palos Verdes Drive South, asked
that the large size of the homes be reduced and stated his con-
cern over lot coverage.
Reading aloud from a letter he distributed to the Commis-
sion, Mr. John Sharkey, 30320 Avenida de Calma, voiced his
opinion that the large size of the homes would be incompatible
with the neighborhood and that the project would be in violation
of the General Plan, the Coastal Specific Plan, the California
Environmental Quality Act, the California Coastal Act and
recently passed legislation in A.B. 2172.
Assistant Planner de Freitas explained that the applicant
has submitted a Variance request for encroachment into the build-
ing setback from the Coastal Setback Zone for Lots 1, 2, 3 and
10.
Ms. Lois LaRue, 3136 Barkentine Road, commented on: her im-
pression that the applicant gave the City a large amount of
money; her understanding that the project would be in violation
of the Coastal Specific Plan; her feeling that the project would
be incompatible with the neighborhood because of the large size
of the homes; her concern over land stability; and the need for
an archaeologist and a paleontologist to be on the site during
construction.
Distributing written material to the Commission,
Mr. Gar Goodson, 1709 Via Zurita, Palos Verdes Estates, Coastal
Conservation Coalition and Save Our Coastline 2000, stressed the
need for an Environmental Impact Report on the project.
Mr. J. J. D. McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South,
requested clarification with regard to ridge heights. He stated
his opinion that the project would be incompatible with the
neighborhood and voiced his concern over geologic stability.
Assistant Planner de Freitas explained that ridge heights
would be established through the Conditional Use Permit process
and that modifications thereto would require a major revision to
the Conditional Use Permit.
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Mr. Lokken came forward again to comment on: construction
hours; Transamerica's position with regard to Lot 14; architec-
tural guidelines; Transamerica's agreement to lower the ridge
height of Lot 1 approximately two feet; geology; and bond money
placed with the City for Klondike Canyon improvements.
At 12:05 AM there was a recess until 12:15 AM when discus-
sion continued with regard to Tentative Tract No. 49067, Condi-
tional Use Permit No. 154, Grading No. 1420, Environmental
Assessment No. 600 and Coastal Permit No. 95, Transamerica, Palos
Verdes Drive South/Yacht Harbor Drive.
After the break, Project Architect Bruce Arita provided in-
put about: lot coverage; architectural guidelines; efforts to
reduce impact; and the maximum size of the homes which could be
placed on Lots 8 and 9. He explained that, through the CC&Rs,
property owners would be encouraged to construct side -loaded
garages.
The Commission discussed: the need for footprints and
renderings to better envision the project; increasing side yard
setbacks to a minimum of twenty-two feet; whether Lot 14 should
be open space or restricted use; geology; hydrology; whether an
Environmental Impact Report should be required; that the property
is excluded from public access, per the Coastal Specific Plan; a
maximum dwelling size of 5,000 - 6,000 square feet, including
garages; and whether the size of Lot 10 should be reduced.
Commissioner Mowlds stated his opposition to uniform side
yard setbacks.
Assistant Planner de Freitas explained that the proposed
side yard setbacks were varied in order to create a viewing cor-
ridor and to encourage property owners to place driveways on the
wider portions of the lots. He advised that grading would be
reduced with the placement of Lots 9 and 10 as proposed in Plan
C.
Landscape Architect Kirby stated her understanding that
there would be an average of sixty percent open space per lot and
that impact would be mitigated with the articulation of the first
and second floors.
Addressing the issue of whether an Environmental Impact
Report should be required, Chairman Katherman pointed out that
staff and the City Attorney have agreed that all impacts have
been mitigated.
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Commissioner Hayes voiced her preference for an Environmen-
tal Impact Report.
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru related
staff's opinion that the project would not significantly affect
the environment. She supplied clarification with regard to the
formulation and circulation of Mitigative Negative Declarations.
Assistant Planner de Freitas stated staff's understanding
that the project is feasible from a geological/geotechnical
standpoint.
Project Geologist Jack Egan of Moore & Taber, 1290 N. Han-
cock, Anaheim, discussed: Dr. Perry Ehlig's 1988 letter pertain-
ing to geology; his opinion that, from a geologic and geotechni-
cal standpoint, the site is suitable for building; and that the
project would include ground water monitoring wells and pumps.
Mr. Lokken clarified that the cost of maintaining ground
water monitoring wells would be borne by the Homeowners' Associa-
tion.
Assistant Planner de Freitas and Acting Director of Environ-
mental Services Petru reviewed pertinent Resource Management Dis-
trict factors.
There being no further discussion, the following motion was
offered.
Chairman Katherman moved, seconded by Commissioner Alberio,
to recommend certification of the Mitigative Negative Declaration
for VTTM 49067. The motion was passed by unanimous roll call
vote.
The Commission agreed to delay further consideration of the
project until footprints and renderings are prepared and
presented to the Commission,
Commissioner Mowlds moved, seconded by Commissioner Hayes,
to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Clark expressed his support for a continuance
of the public hearing to a date certain.
Commissioner Mowlds withdrew his motion to close the public
hearing.
With the consensus of the Commission, the public hearing for
VTTM 49067, EA No. 600, CUP 154, CP 95, GR 1420, VAR 297 and
MEP 414 was continued to Wednesday, March 4, 1992, 7:00 PM, City
Hall Community Room.
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The Commission encouraged the applicant to look into the
possibility of deleting the encroachment into the setback from
the Coastal Setback Zone.
VIII.QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
None.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
At 2:00 AM the meeting was duly adjourned to Tuesday,
February 25, 1992, 7:00 PM.
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