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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 28, 1992
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The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Byrd at 7:06pm at Hesse
Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Byrd, Clark, Mowlds, Hayes and
Alternates Lorenzen and Alberio
ABSENT Katherman
Also present were Acting Director of Environmental Services Carolynn Petru,
Associate Planner Terry Silverman, and Assistant Planners Donna Jerex and Kim
Klopfenstein.
COMMISSION REPORTS
Vice Chairman Byrd reported that he had attended the Mayors breakfast on
January 27.
AGENDA
New Business Item "A", Conditional Use Permit No 132, Revision "B", PVPUSD,
was moved to Public Hearings to follow agenda item "B". New Business Item "B",
CUP 58 -- Rev. "A", was unanimously continued to the February 25 meeting.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of November 26, 1991.
B. Minutes of December 10, 1991.
C. Minutes of January 11, 1991.
D. P.C. Resolution No. 92-1, Variance No. 311, Coastal Permit No. 108--
96 Yacht Harbor Drive
E. P.C. Resolution No. 92-2, Extreme Slope Permit No. 29--3141 Deluna Drive
The Consent Calendar was approved without objection.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 712, Assistant Planner Donna Jerex
VARIANCE NO. 296, GRADING presented the staff report regarding
NO. 1493--5888 Mossbank the applicant's request to overturn
the Director's denial of Height Variation No. 712 to allow a new two-story
residence at 5888 Mossbank Road and to approve Variance No. 296 to allow
encroachment into the rear setback.-, for same. Staff's recommendation is to deny
the appeal, thereby upholding the Director's decision to deny the Variance request.
The public hearing was opened.
Delbert Hodge, 5366 Valley View, applicant, strongly objected to the staff
recommendation and criteria, claiming that his original design was within the code
requirements, and stating he felt the project was compatible with the neighborhood
and did not create any view impairment.
Isaac George, 333 S. Beverly Drive, Beverly Hills, project architect, explained that
he felt new design parameters had successfully addressed the staff objections to
the project, and that the limited buildable area of the lot created a hardship for the
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The pubill hearing was s closed * -CU'mmissioner Mark said that the dilemma in the
City w using the neighborhood compatibility as a criteria in an area with older
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homes, and also stated he felt the new design would satisfy the applicant's needs
without any view impairment to neighboring homes.
Commissioner Mowlds agreed that in this case, neighborhood compatibility was a
difficult call, said he felt that the house seemed large and a little too close to the
house on the west side, and suggested a three -car rather than a four -car garage to
increase the distance from the neighboring home.
Commissioner Hayes agreed with Messrs. Clark and Mowlds, especially with
regard to the sideyard setback, and suggested the house be reconfigured away
from the lot line.
Acting Chairman Byrd stated he felt that the setbacks were an important
consideration, and suggested that more alternatives be explored.
Commissioner Mowlds moved to deny the appeal, thereby giving the applicant a
chance to appeal the decision to the City Council or go back to staff with a
redesign. Commissioner Hayes seconded the motion.
Commissioner Clark maintained that the applicant's proposal should receive due
consideration, given the unique topography and location of the lot. Acting Director
Petru stated that staff had received a few letters of opposition to the project from
neighbors, citing bulk and mass of the structure, not view impairment.
Commissioner Mowlds withdrew his motion, and then moved to approve the
application if the applicant changed the design to a three -car garage, thereby
increasing the setback to 15' on the west side. Commissioner Clark seconded the
motion, which passed 3-1 with Hayes dissenting.
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B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 132 Associate Planner Terry Silverman
REVISION "A" EXTENSION presented the staff report regarding
PVPUSD/Discovery World the applicant's request to allow an
6245 Via Canada extension for the continued use of
the Miraleste Elementary School site
by the Discovery World Infant Center and Preschool, and to allow an extension to
the hours of operation. Staff's recommendation is to approve the request with
conditions.
The Commission discussed moving the bollards in the parking lot to increase the
parking lot size, but Planner Silverman pointed out that they provided access to
emergency vehicles. In response to a query regarding nighttime security from
Commissioner Hayes, Ms. Silverman also stated that lighting recommendations had
been made to the school district along with a suggestion to establish a "buddy
system" at night. The public hearing was opened.
Sheryl Austin, 1741 West O'Farrell, San Pedro, expressed concern that she would
be liable for any injuries incurred to the public if her play area were not allowed to
be locked, as well as potential loss and destruction of her expensive equipment.
She also cited a recent influx of gang activity in the area, and stated that she had
offered the local homeowners association a key to the playground, which had been
returned after the president of the association saw the resulting destruction of the
play area.
Planner Silverman stated that the conditions of the original CUP had required that
the play area be opened to the public upon request, and that there had been a
single request through the City Manager's office. Commissioner Byrd stated he
felt it was not worth unlocking the area for one person with potential vandalism a
problem. Commissioner Clark agreed, pointing out that this was not a public area,
but privately -leased school property.
Commissioner Mowlds moved to adopt the staff recommendations, with the
deletion of Item #3, Exhibit "A " in order to allow the play area to remain locked.
Commissioner Clark seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
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(Note: As mentioned in "Agenda", the following item was heard out of order)
NEW BUSINESS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 132
REVISION "B"
PVPUSD/Miraleste Elementary School
Commissioner Hayes moved to adopt the staff recommendation to partially
approve the applicant's request to revise conditions of approval to allow parking of
two vehicles in the southwest portion of the loading zone area after bpm only.
Commissioner Clark seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
RECESS AND RECONVENE A 10 -minute break was called
at 8:45pm.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONT'D)
C. VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP A detailed slide show of the project
NOS. 50666 AND 50667; TENTATIVE was presented by the applicant,
PARCEL MAP NOS. 23004 & 29070; Acting Director Petru then gave
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NOS. the staff report regarding the
162 AND 163; GRADING PERMIT NO applicant's request to approve an
1541 AND COASTAL PERMIT NO. 103 80 -lot single family residential
Subregion 7 & 8, South of PVDS at development with an 18 -hole public
Forrestal Drive golf course, clubhouse and passive
open space. Staff is requesting
direction from the Commission regarding the modified proposal. Mrs. Petru also
explained how the Coastal Specific Plan and General and Land Use Plans allowed
the Commission to consider a public golf course through a Conditional Use Permit
application. The public hearing was opened.
Michael Mohler, PVLHC, 25200 La Paz, Laguna Hills, presented an analysis of the
clubhouse location with cross-sections indicating no view obstruction to
neighboring homes. Mr. Mohler also discussed traffic and noise mitigation aspects
of the clubhouse including restaurant location, restricted hours of operation, no
banquet facilities, split-level and landscaped parking areas, low -light bollards for
the parking lot and interior employee and service entrances.
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Bob Grahamer, 32427 Searaven, stated he was representing many Ladera Linda
homeowners, and spoke in general support of the development and the elimination
of Paseo del Mar, but objected to the clubhouse location because of noise and
traffic. Mr. Grahamer then called for a supplemental EIR to address the changes
made in the original project.
Ray Perrin, 32425 Searaven, an employee of the Los Verdes Golf Course, stated
that the traffic at their course was heavy.
l/Dan Finnegan, 6938 Willowtree Drive, spoke in favor of the development and the
golf course, stating he felt it was a good plan.
✓Brian Hardwick, 2029 Pasel del Sol, PVE, stated he felt the new plan was an
improvement, and that the City was in need of the jobs, tax revenues and property
value enhancements the project would generate.
Ken McNeill, 6636 Channelview, spoke in favor of the project, saying that the City
desperately needed a golf course facility that would enhance property values and
put an end to the gang activity on the property.
Connie Barr, 135 Seawall Road, agreed that the project would be an economical
and aesthetic asset to the City.
George Fink, 32353 Searaven Drive, spoke in support of the development but
against the proposed clubhouse location.
.,-Susan Allewaert. 32415 Aqua Vista Drive, read a prepared statement opposing the
current clubhouse location and suggesting La Rotunda as an alternate location.,
Andrew Sargent, I Peppertree, expressed objection to Acting Chairman Byrd
participating in and voting on this issue. (Mr. Byrd explained that his property is
not affected in any way by the project, and therefore he feels there is no conflict
of interest.) Mr. Sargent also stated he was in support of the housing portion but
not the golf course, and that he would prefer to see a passive open space use for
the area.
Ellen Hocking, 4014 Admirable, also supported the project but not the clubhouse
location.
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Sharon Solari, 4145 PVDS, President of the Seaview Homeowners Association,
agreed with Bob Grahamer, and expressed concern about the potential traffic from
the project.
Richard Motz, 32413 Searaven, also expressed support for the project, and
suggested that the clubhouse be moved to the La Rotunda area with underground
parking.
Ed Baur, 3572 Vigilance Drive, supported the project, but objected to the size of
the clubhouse parking lot, and also suggested the La Rotunda location.
,/BQner Mills, 3603 Vigilance Drive, agreed with the previous two speakers.
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erbert Hyatt, 32424 Aqua Vista, also agreed with the previous speakers.
Joyce Fink, 32353 Searaven, pfee a dent of the Ladera Linda Homeowners
Association, agreed that the clubhouse location should be changed.
RECESS AND RECONVENE A five-minute break was called
at 1 1:05pm.
Mel Vague, 32437 Searaven, stated he was in agreement with the project but not
the clubhouse location.
Marilee Spargur, 32503 Seacliff Drive, agreed with Mr. Vague.
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John Sharkey, 30320 Avenida De Calma, expressed an objection to Acting
Chairman Byrd voting on this issue. Mr. Sharkey also stated he did not feel there
was a great need for golf, and did not feel the project would get Coastal
Commission approval. He also presented research figures supporting his
contention that density figures were higher than noted by staff, and said that there
was no provision for low-cost housing in the current project.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, stated she felt the project was not supported by the
General and Coastal Specific Plans.
Michael Mohler, applicant,stated that the clubhouse could not be relocated to the
La Rotunda area because it was Open Space Hazard and within the foundation
setback area established by the City Geologist, but that he would work with staff
to look for an alternate location or to make the proposed location more acceptable
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with such considerations as underground parking.
Acting Chairman Byrd asked that traffic, trails and affordable housing aspects be
topics of discussion at the next hearing on the item, and he asked staff to get the
City Attorney's opinion on prescriptive rights.
Commissioner Mowlds moved to continue the public hearing to the February 25
meeting, directing staff to prepare draft Conditions of Approval for both the Paseo
del Mar clubhouse location favored by the applicant, and for the La Rotunda
location. Commissioner Clark seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. SIGN PERMIT NO. 567 Assistant Planner Kim Klopfenstein
28350-28500 Western Ave. presented the staff report regarding
the applicant's request to approve a
sign program for Westmont Plaza and all non -conforming signs. Staff's
recommendation is to approve the sign program but to deny all non -conforming
signs.
Timothy Sales, 610 N. Hollywood Way, Burbank, representing Wells Fargo, agreed
with the conditions of approval and asked if the main non -conforming Westmont
Plaza sign would remain. Staff indicated that all non -conforming signs would be
removed.
Commissioner Hayes moved to adopt the staff recommendation, Commissioner
Clark seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 31 Acting Director Petru presented the
REVISION "D" staff report regarding the applicant's
Crest Road/San Pedro Hill request to allow installation of an
automatic gate at the main entrance
to the tract at Avenida de Pino and to allow vacation of a portion of an existing
public pedestrian trail located between the main entrance and the rear property line
of Lot 41. Staff's recommendation is to approve the request for the automatic
gate.
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Lawrence C. Baker, Jr., 10 Paseo de Ping, representing the Rancho Palos Verdes
Estates Homeowners, stated he supported the staff recommendation for security
reasons.
Commissioner Clark moved to adopt the staff recommendation, Commissioner
Hayes seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
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The meeting was adjourned at
12:30am.