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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 30, 1991
The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairman Von
Hagen at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Commissioners Brooks, Hotchkiss, Katherman,
McNulty, Chairman Von Hagen
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Senior Planner Carolynn Petru, Assistant Planner Mike
Patterson, and Assistant Planner Paul Espe.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Von Hagen acknowledged receipt of correspondence from
Tim Burrell and Karl Wichser regarding the Windport project, from
Irwin Frendel discussing Mr. Hon's holdings in the moratorium
area, and from Andrew Sargent regarding his testimony at the July
23 meeting on common area open space.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. P.C. Resolution No. 91-- approving variance No. 302 and
Coastal Permit No. 105 with modifications located at 4100
Sea Horse.
B. P.C. Resolution No. 91- —approving variance No. 288,
Grading No. 1394 and Encroachment Permit No. 21 with
modifications located at 3807 Crest Road.
Commissioner Brooks moved approval of the Consent Calendar,
Commissioner Katherman seconded and the motion passed without
objection. (Commissioner Hotchkiss abstained from voting on the
first resolution because he did not participate in it.)
NEW BUSINESS
A. GRADING NO. 1527; Seeyung Assistant Planner Paul Espe
and Seonung-Hee Choe, 4 presented the Staff Report
Stallion Road. regarding the applicant's
request to allow construction
of retaining walls at the toe of the extreme slopes on the west
side of the property. Staff's recommendation is to approve the
request with conditions. Mr. Espe referred to the Staff
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Memorandum dated July 30, 1991 amending the recommendation to
comply with the 8 foot requirement as specified by the building
code. He said the applicant agrees with the recommendations of
Staff. No one was present to testify.
Commissioner Brooks moved approval of Staff Recommendation No. 2
including the July 30 addendum, Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded
and the motion passed 5-0.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. GRADING NO. 1522; Mr.
C.S. Wang, 30001 Via
Rivera.
approval of a 41 downslope
wall and 25 cubic yards of
Staff's recommendation is
Assistant Planner Mike
Patterson presented the Staff
Report regarding the
applicant's request for
retaining wall with 31 of freestanding
grading in an extreme slope area.
to approve the request with conditions.
Commissioner Katherman asked why a 90% light and air wall on the
top 3 feet was not suggested, and Mr. Patterson said there was no
request for that by the neighbors and it didn't seem necessary.
Lorne O'Brien, 3009 Via Rivera, PVE (the neighbor immediately
downhill from the applicant) testified that when he bought his
house in 1973 the neighbors at that time had a 551 retaining wall
about 51411 high, and the remaining 501 was a gentle slope to his
property, covered with trees and vegetation. A chain link fence
on Mr. O'Brien's side of the property line (which is also the
boundary between RPV and PVE) was covered with ivy. In the fall
of 1990 Mr. Wang purchased the property and constructed (without
permits) additions to the wall which resulted in a 71411 wall
running 90 feet, removing all the vegetation and piling the
debris at the rear of his property. Mr. O'Brien removed the
chain link fence and put in landscaping to ameliorate the effect
of the massive wall. After the rains in March 1991 the retaining
wall began to fail and the City cited Mr. Wang and ordered him to
remove the wall or reconstruct it in conformance with the Code.
A survey found that the actual boundary line lay 2011 closer to
the O'Brien property in the front and 4011 in the rear, and Mr.
Wang intends to build the new wall on the actual boundary. There
are utility easements on both sides of the line.
Mr. O'Brien feels that instead of approving the subject request,
the City should require Mr. Wang to fix the existing wall, to
regrade the land behind it with a gentle slope so that only 31 of
land rests on the existing wall, and then reinforce that wall.
He mentioned issues still to be addressed, e.g., 10 trees on the
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property line would have to be removed if the new wall is built,
PVE requires Art Jury approval for removal of trees over 201 in
height, access to the root system as well as for construction
equipment would have to be from Mr. O'Brien's property and would
damage his landscaping, and safety concerns. Mr. O'Brien showed
slides of the properties in question.
Peter Yu, 30001 Via Rivera, speaking for Mr. Wang, said the wall
was weakened when Mr. O'Brien removed a tree without compacting
the dirt. He said they have complied with all the City
regulations on this application. He responded to Mr. O'Brien's
concerns by saying the City would show them how to do the work
without going onto Mr. O'Brien's property, and added that the 25
cubic yards of dirt to be added between the new and existing
walls was very little when spread over 100 feet. By adding the
new wall and keeping the old, it would be stronger and safer.
The possible problem of constructing a wall inside the easement,
and the jurisdictional problems were discussed. Asked about the
possibility of rebuilding the original wall, Mr. Patterson said
the Building and Safety Division advised that the wall would have
to be torn out and rebuilt with the proper City inspections,
since there is no way to confirm what sort of reinforcements and
footings exist. Director Benard advised that the City is not
going to show the applicant how to build his wall, and that even
though the plan may be approved, implementation may not be
possible if it requires access to Mr. O'Brien's property and that
access is not granted. He stated the jurisdiction issue is one
for the applicant to be concerned about, not the Planning
Commission. Mr. Yu added that the average setback is 31 and that
is adequate footing.
Going back to the original wall and eliminating the extension was
discussed. Asked what would be legal on the site without need
for approvals, Director Benard advised that the applicant would
have to restore the extreme slope as it originally existed and
put in a retaining wall of less than 31. He could add a non -
retaining wall on top, up to a total downslope height of 6 feet.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved acceptance of Staff Alternative No.
1, to deny the application, and the motion was seconded by
Commissioner Brooks.
Chairman Von Hagen suggested continuance to allow Staff to
investigate and come back with an alternative recommendation.
After discussion, Commissioner Brooks withdrew her second and the
motion died.
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Chairman Von Hagen moved continuance to the next available date
after Staff has looked into the issues raised. Commissioner
Brooks seconded and the motion passed 4-1, with Commissioner
McNulty dissenting.
PUBLIC HEARING
A. DRAFT FOCUSED EIR NO. 31
Senior Planner Carolynn Petru
FOR ZONE CHANGE NO. 19,
presented the Staff Report
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.
regarding the applicant's
18947 AND GRADING NO.
request to certify the EIR for
1460; Wallace Pollack and
a proposed zone change from OH
Richard Capellino, end of
to RS -2 to allow the sub-
Windport Drive.
division of the property into
4 single family residential
lots. Staff has concluded the proposed project will result in
some significant impacts on the environment but has proposed
mitigation measures to reduce these
impacts to an insignificant
level. Their recommendation is to
open the public hearing and
receive public comments on Draft Focused EIR No. 31. Ms. Petru
noted that written comments on the
Draft EIR may be submitted to
the City until 5:00 p.m. on August
9, 1991.
Commissioner Brooks asked about the concerns raised in a letter
from the California Water Service regarding the impact of
increased irrigation and grading on unstable earth in the area,
and Ms. Petru replied that their concerns will be investigated
and addressed along with other comments on the draft EIR. With
regard to a letter from Mr. Karl Wichser on the subject of the
use of piers versus total excavation and recompaction of the
site, Ms. Petru said the City geologist has found the pier
solution to be acceptable and complete excavation has been
considered only for the proposed Windport Drive extension.
Chairman Von Hagen stated that he is acquainted with the Pollack
and Capellino families and has represented them and collected a
commission on their properties. He has not represented them in
the last five years, however, and has not discussed the merits of
this application with them. The City Attorney has advised there
is no conflict of interest in this proceeding.
Commissioner Katherman inquired about alternatives to the 6,000
cubic yards of export and also whether RPD style clustering was
considered. Ms. Petru said that different pad configurations
with some split level houses are being analyzed to see if the
amount of export could be reduced, and that the RPD alternative
was not looked at, but could be considered.
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The public hearing was opened and Chairman Von Hagen stressed
that the purpose was to receive input on the draft focused EIR
and not on the merits of the project, which will be discussed at
the August 19 meeting. Ms. Petru noted that a letter from Mr.
Eldon Swails had been received and distributed to Commissioners.
Tim Burrell, 57 Marguerite Drive, representing the applicants,
stated that he is very familiar with the EIR process and he
welcomes public participation and suggestions on how the project
could be improved. His only disagreement with the staff report
is the statement regarding the proposed zone change from Open
Space Hazard to RS -2; he feels the subject property is already
zoned RS -4. Regarding grading alternatives, he said the first
proposal called for removing the earth and recompacting it on the
entire site, but after study it was found to be environmentally
superior to excavate and recompact the area only under the road
extension. Regarding parkland, he said the City does not have
the ability to acquire the property as a park in its current
financial condition. If a group of residents wished to acquire
the land and develop it as open space or donate it to the
Conservancy or the City, he said they are willing to listen.
Addressing the concerns raised in the California Water Service
letter, Mr. Burrell said the caissons are engineered to resist
lateral forces as well as vertical movement, and an alternative
has been developed since the EIR was prepared which calls for
less grading. Regarding the "blue line stream", he said they
hope to redevelop that area and put in some natural material
under it which will not erode and will allow the native habitat
to re-establish itself.
James Crowley, 6644 Locklenna Lane, spoke for a group of 40
Locklenna homeowners with concerns for the stability of the land.
He questioned the use of caissons in a canyon landfill situation
with "slope creep." He said that cracks appeared in his home and
in other area homes when drilling began for the core samples. He
mentioned concerns about living with pounding and earth movement,
the liability to the city and the effects on endangered species
living in the canyon.
Commissioner Katherman suggested Mr. Crowley provide written
comment enumerating his concerns and the potential impact of the
development on the Locklenna homes. Mr. Crowley asked for an
extension of time for comments on the draft EIR; however, after
clarification by Director Benard of the time constraints of the
State Permit Streamlining Act it was decided that the deadline of
August 9 would remain.
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RECESS AND RECONVENE A 10 -minute break was called
at 9:30 p.m.
Karl Wichser, 29610 Island View Drive, represented the Concord
Villa Homeowners Association. He confirmed that the Peninsula
Center Library did not have the draft focused EIR available until
a few days before the hearing. He showed photos of the canyon
taken in March showing the blue line stream to be 101 to 301 in
depth and pointed out that large quantities of earth and stones
were moved during the rains. Mr. Wichser presented a petition
signed by 46 registered voters opposing the project. He
expressed interest in discussing with Mr. Burrell the concept of
donating the land to the Land Conservancy.
Marvin Stein, 6636 Locklenna, expressed concerns about water
drainage, building on fill land, pier construction, the impact of
the proposed project on plant and animal life and its effect on
his property.
Georgette Boyajian, 6650 Locklenna, requested help from the
Planning Commission in opposing the project due to the
instability of the land, saying her house is settling and has
huge cracks. She said she has telephoned and written many
letters to the City in the past four years. Ms. Petru stated
that she has compiled all letters that have been received since
1988 concerning this property and they will be submitted to the
Commissioners when the merits of the project are considered.
Carolina Oaxaca, 6658 Locklenna, reiterated the concerns raised
by the other speakers and asked what liability the City would
assume if houses began to slide because of the new construction.
Robert Baker, 7 Oceancrest Court, also restated the same concerns
regarding water, land slippage, overdevelopment for the size of
the area, and erosion. He added that he currently has access
through the property from his home to Hesse Park and hoped he
would not lose this access.
Tim Burrell replied to the comments of speakers. He said his
firm paid to have the City geologist inspect the residences with
cracks and the geologist's professional opinion should be
incorporated into the EIR. Mr. Burrell offered to provide
inspection of other homes before the project begins, to serve as
a baseline and make sure that nothing related to this project is
causing any harm. He explained that the use of caissons in fills
has been done successfully since 1959. He said that current
subsidence and potential slides caused by water running through
the gully will be eliminated by the development. Water will
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mostly be redirected into the existing storm drains on Windport.
A proposed trail providing access across the project will be
incorporated if the public wants it.
Chairman Von Hagen advised that all comments received tonight
will be incorporated into the final comments on the EIR, along
with any others that are delivered in writing before the August 9
deadline.
In reply to queries regarding correction of existing conditions
and indemnification, Mr. Burrell advised that the applicant was
offering to inspect residences and document any problems but was
not going to enter into indemnification agreements. He said that
if liability was caused by a lack of care or other problem with
the proposed development, the law would take care of it. He
stated that no two-story homes are being applied for.
Bill Craig, 9 Oceancrest Court, asked if the City would have any
liability if damage was caused by the builder and the builder
could not take care of it. Mr. Benard stated that the City is
not in the business of indemnifying developers.
Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing and allow
the submission of written testimony until August 9, 1991, as
established by law. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Hotchkiss and passed 3-2, with Commissioners Katherman and Brooks
dissenting.
Director Benard announced that a new notice will be provided for
the meeting of August 19, noticing a public hearing on the merits
of the development portions of the project. Commissioners
Katherman and Hotchkiss advised they will not be available on
that date. After discussion of alternate dates it was decided to
hold the hearing on the 19th.
QUESTIONS FROM AUDIENCE
None.
REPORTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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