PC MINS 19910326f
MINUTES'
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING��'9
MARCH 26, 1991
The meeting was called to order at 6:40pm by Chairman Von
Hagen at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Von Hagen, Brooks, Katherman,
Hotchkiss (arrived 6:45pm)
ABSENT McNulty
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Senior
Planner Carolynn Petru, Associate Planner Terry Silverman,
and Assistant Planner Fabio de Freitas.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Von Hagen acknowledged a flyer from the California
Contract Cities Association regarding the upcoming meeting.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of February 26, 1991
B. P. C. Resolution No. 91-_, Height Variation No. 663 --
Appeal
C. Site Plan Review No. 5843
Commissioners Katherman and Brooks stated they had reviewed
the tapes of the February 26 meeting and felt qualified to
vote to approve them, and Director Benard stated he would
verify this action with the City Attorney. Under this
qualification, on the motion of Commissioner Katherman, with
a second from Commissioner Brooks, the Consent Calendar was
approved without objection.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VARIANCE NO. 260, Director Benard stated that
COASTAL PERMIT NO. 97 this item has been continued
6450/6470 Seacove to the April 23 meeting on the
request of the applicant, and
that all interested parties would be notified of the
rescheduling.
B. VARIANCE NO. 285, Reading of the staff report was
GRADING NO. 1517 waived regarding the applicant's
19 Amber Sky request to allow minor
PLANNING COMMISSION ETING
March 26, 1991
construction into extreme slope areas for a new single family
residence. Staff's recommendation is to approve the request
with conditions, and staff noted the applicant had agreed
with all the conditions. The public hearing was opened, and
then closed since there were no speakers.
Commissioner Brooks moved to adopt the staff recommendation,
Commissioner Katherman seconded, and the motion passed
unanimously.
C. VARIANCE NO. 290, Associate Planner Terry
ENCROACHMENT PERMIT NO. Silverman presented the staff
19, GRADING NO.1522 report regarding the applicant's
request to allow construction of
a 5' high retaining wall within the front setback in an
extreme slope and to allow construction of two pilasters with
lights within the public right-of-way. Staff's
recommendation is to continue the item to the April 9
meeting due to trails issues on the site that need to be
addressed by the Trails Committee.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved to adopt the staff
recommendation to continue the item; Commissioner Katherman
seconded, and the motion passed without objection.
D. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Associate Planner Terry
NO. 132 --REVISION "A", Silverman presented the staff
ENVIRONMENTAL report regarding the applicant's
ASSESSMENT NO. 619 request to allow use of a
6245 Via Canada portion of the existing
facilities at Miraleste
Elementary School by the Discovery World Infant Center and
Preschool with a proposed enrollment of 120 students and 20
employees. Staff's recommendation is to adopt the Negative
Declaration for the Environmental Assessment and approve the
revision to the CUP with conditions. The public hearing was
opened.
Sheryl Austin, 1741 W. O'Farrell, San Pedro, applicant,
stated she was in agreement with all the conditions of
approval except #4 regarding fencing in the grassy area near
the softball diamond. Mrs. Austin said she had a letter from
the school district stating that the fenced -in area as
proposed would not interfere with any activities at the
diamond, although she stated her willingness to compromise on
the size of the area. The applicant also objected to
Condition #8 regarding the amount of parking spaces, and
pointed out that although the Mommy & Me class was listed as
having 25 spaces in the staff report, she had checked with
the school district, who informed her that the class was only
entitled to 18 spaces, and Mrs. Austin asked that the
difference of 7 spaces be allocated to her, for a total of 24
spaces. She also addressed the transient nature of her
Page 2
PLANNING COMMISSION WTING
March 26, 1991
traffic, and stated she would ask parents to use Picardie as
an alternate route to cut down on congestion. Commissioners
Katherman and Brooks asked if there would be public access to
the play area on the weekends via a gate, and Mrs. Austin
stated that her insurance company had advised her that she
would be liable for the play area as the lessee, but that the
fence would only be 4' high.
Mike Giltner, 29077 PVDE, spoke in favor of the application,
stating it was an excellent operation and would be a great
asset to the local parents and would result in improvements
to the site's current condition of disrepair.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Katherman noted
the school would be a wonderful addition to the area, and
that he would like to see both the softball and play areas
accommodated. Katherman also suggested consolidation of
Conditions 7, 8, and 10 into a comprehensive plan such as a
demand management plan to examine traffic patterns, tandem
spaces for employees, and hours of operation for the various
uses on the site, and to conditionally relate this
application to the master CUP.
Commissioner Katherman moved to adopt the staff
recommendation, with the consolidation of Conditions 7, 8,
and 10 to refer to the master CUP and the transportation
demand study, and amending Condition #4 to direct staff to
review the layout of the ballfield to accommodate both the
baseball/soccer area and proposed fenced -in play yard to
allow the applicant to fence in as much of the grass area as
feasible.
Chairman Von Hagen questioned the Commission's ability to
require the school district to do the transportation study,
and suggested that the request be made instead at the time of
the master CUP extension hearing. Commissioner Katherman
clarified that the applicant was getting the 17 parking
spaces as recommended by the staff, and at the time of the
master CUP extension hearing, could take the opportunity to
prove the existence of more available spaces. Commissioner
Katherman amended his motion to remove the requirement for a
transportation management study, instead directing staff to
bring back the issue at the time of the master CUP extension,
and to add that these conditions shall be consolidated with
the master CUP if the master is extended, and that if the
master is not extended, this application shall continue as
specified in Condition #3. Commissioner Brooks asked that
the fence condition be amended further to require a gate for
public access, and Mr. Katherman agreed. Mrs. Brooks then
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
RECESS AND RECONVENE A 20 -minute break was called
at 7:30pm.
Page 3
PLANNING COMMISSION TING
March 26, 1991
E. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 136, GRADING NO.
1246, COASTAL PERMIT
NO. 52, LOT LINE
ADJUSTMENT NO. 38,
ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT NO. 540
Monaghan Company
6610 PVDS
�J
Senior Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the staff report
regarding the applicant's
request to approve a 495 -room
hotel project with ancillary
uses and a nine -hole golf
course. Staff's recommendation
is to review the final EIR and
provide staff with comments on
the draft conditions of
approval.
In response to a query from Commissioner Katherman regarding
the heliport, staff explained that it may not be possible to
ban the existing facility, but that the current use could be
regulated to be limited to emergencies only. Commissioner
Hotchkiss pointed out that it was not yet definitive that
there would indeed be a problem with the helipad, and
suggested instead that a condition be created to allow the
Commission to review the use at a later date if necessary.
Mr. Hotchkiss also inquired why the applicant had not
addressed the "marine theme" requirement for a development on
the site, and Director Benard noted the council -adopted
guidelines had not been specific as to how the marine theme
should be incorporated, but it could include anything from a
motif to an interpretive center. Planner Petru also noted
that a re -calculation of the traffic generated by the hotel
had been provided to the Commission reflecting the staff -
suggested room cap of 373.
The public hearing was re -opened specifically to take
testimony on the proposed conditions of approval only.
Commissioners Brooks and Katherman announced that they had
reviewed all the material regarding the previous meetings on
the application, and felt qualified to vote on the matter.
Robert Spence, International Asset Group, 2897 Woodsorrel
Drive, Chino, representing the Monaghan Company, read from a
prepared statement now on file, explaining that they were
willing to take any measures necessary to mitigate the
traffic problems that had instigated the suggested cut in the
size of the project. Mr. Spence also complained that he had
not had enough time to review the staff report; that he had
not been able to meet with the staff to resolve the problems
more agreeably; and that the current staff recommendation was
neither acceptable nor economically feasible. He pointed out
that the EIR traffic study had included a "worst case"
scenario, and that his company had isolated this project's
impact on the intersections and found that their suggested
mitigation measures would improve the current level of
service. Mr. Spence urged the Commission to seek a
"creative" solution to these issues and stated he felt a
continuance would be beneficial. He also expressed regret
Page 4
PLANNING COMMISSION TING
March 26, 1991
that Commissioner McNulty was not present.
Commissioner Katherman brought up the idea of a mix of room
types including long-term casitas. Director Benard commented
that the Council had already offered the mixed-use concept to
the applicant who rejected it and revised the design, so that
to again revive the would involve rezoning, and be outside
the scope of the current application. Mr. Spence stated that
as long as the room mix added up to the desired 495, it would
be economically feasible for the applicant. He also stated
they would be examining the incorporation of the marine
theme. Chairman Von Hagen expressed fear of approving a
facility that would not be economically viable, and would
fail in some area, and strongly suggested a continuance to
take a look at bringing to the community a design concept
minimizing these fears. He also suggested that since the
applicant also desired a continuance, there should be a
meeting between staff and the applicant to address their
concerns, and that staff bring back the recommendations to
the full Commission with the benefit of the applicant's point
of view. Director Benard stated he did not feel it was
appropriate to negotiate a solution with the applicant
outside of the public forum, and that staff had based their
recommendations on the boilerplate pro forma and other
information provided by the applicant, as well as anticipated
impacts flowing from this specific project. He also pointed
out that whether or not the hotel would be economically
viable was not based on the number of rooms the staff
recommended, but rather on some economic agreement between
the property owner and the hotel operator.
Jack Downhill, 20 Vanderlip Drive, stated he found the staff
recommendations too restrictive, and the EIR traffic
statistics questionable, and that he supported the project
because it would be an asset to the Peninsula.
Juan Forteza, 24050 Madison, Torrance, also spoke in favor of
the project.
Keith Orr, 9 Golden Spur Lane, spoke in favor of the project
as proposed.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, expressed objections to the
project, based on excessive water consumption.
RECESS AND RECONVENE A 15 -minute break was called at
10:15pm.
Ilse Oetiker, 6504 Via Baron, spoke in support of the staff
recommendation to eliminate the helipad and commented on the
apparent low rates projected for such a good hotel.
Page 5
PLANNING COMMISSION RETING
March 26, 1991
Commissioner Brooks moved to continue the public hearing to
April 23, to be re -noticed for the purposes of commenting on
the proposed Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Hotchkiss questioned why a continuation was
necessary, pointing out that the Commission could vote the
project up or down now, as per the application or as
recommended by staff. Commissioner Katherman stated he would
like to see the project heard before the full Commission, and
noted that the applicant had asked for more time to respond
to the staff's recommendations. Chairman Von Hagen suggested
that the re -noticed hearing deal with the Draft Resolution as
well as the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Brooks amended her motion to include commenting
on the Draft Resolution as well as the Conditions of
Approval. Commissioner Katherman seconded the amended
motion, and it passed without objection.
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS There were no audience
questions.
STAFF REPORTS
Commissioners Brooks, Von Hagen and Katherman expressed
interest in attending the California Contract Cities
Association annual seminar. Mr. Von Hagen and Mr. Katherman
stated they would only need to have their registration
covered.
Commissioner Katherman reported on a session he attended at
the Planning Commissioners Institute in which an interesting
design in a Marina del Rey high-density project had been
discussed, and suggested the concept be applied to RPD
projects. He asked staff to contact the speaker and arrange
a presentation to the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:10pm.