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story master bedroom, as well as loss of privacy and cumulative
view impact. Mr. Chang also stated that it would force him to
build his own addition to regain his view, thereby impacting other
neighbors.
Director Benard commented that under the Code, a second story
cannot be designated as a viewing area.
Grace Chang, 29031 Warnick, co-appellant, also spoke in favor of
the appeal , objecting to the size of the new wall , loss of privacy
and view.
Jim Hood, 29025 Warnick, presented a written statement and spoke
in support of the appeal , and suggested the applicant build the
addition in another area.
Karen Hood, 29025 Warnick, also expressed objection to the project
and stated she had not received notice of the Height Variation.
Commissioner Brooks stated she had visited the site and asked
about a similar addition nearby. Mrs. Hood stated it was a
smaller addition that did not impact any views.
Wendy Nieh, 29040 Warnick, spoke in favor of the appeal , and added
that home values would be adversely affected by the possible view
loss.
Vera Culjat, 6554 Madeline Cove, supported the appeal , stating she
feared a negative precedent.
An Min Liu, 29024 Warnick, also stated her objection to the
project.
Denise Sperber, 29014 Warnick, expressed support for the appeal .
Tom Wang, 29041 Warnick, also spoke against the project, and
suggested a smaller 16' addition.
Chang Jean Wang, 29041 Warnick, also spoke against the project.
Ashis Kumar Mandal, 29035 Warnick, applicant, presented a written
statement, and spoke against the appeal , stating he had held two
open houses to explain the project to neighbors. Mr. Mandal also
noted that several nearby residences had undergone similar
expansions, and said he felt his project was well within City
requirements, and did not impact his neighbors views or privacy
adversely.
Celina Gonzales, 8952 Cypress Avenue, Downey, project architect,
stated they would be willing to remove the second story windows to
mitigate any perceived impact on the neighbors privacy.
Commissioner Katherman asked the staff if a case could be made for
cumulative impact if the other neighbors were to build similar
additions to restore their views. Director Benard explained that
the cumulative impact was defined as multiple projects taken
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together at one time.
Commissioner McNulty stated he would support the appeal , because
he felt this project was not compatible with the neighborhood. He
also said he felt the view had been carefully designed into each
home in the tract, and that this project would disrupt that
design, as well as encourage others to build similar additions.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated he could not make the findings to
support the appeal , agreeing that it would change the
neighborhood, but that this was not an appropriate application of
neighborhood compatibility. Director Benard noted that under the
Code, the definition of neighborhood compatibility included such
criteria as style, but did not include views. Commissioner
McNulty said he felt the design to maximize the view was a style.
Commissioner Brooks stated she would like to uphold the appeal ,
but could not make the findings under the Code. Both
Ms. Brooks and Commissioner Katherman stated they wanted to see
some design compromise to minimize the privacy and view impacts.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved to adopt the staff recommendation to
deny the appeal, and Chairman Von Hagen seconded the motion, which
failed 2-3, with Commissioners Katherman, Brooks and McNulty
dissenting.
Commissioner McNulty moved to uphold the appeal, seconded by
Commissioner Katherman, and passed 3-2 with Chairman Von Hagen and
Commissioner Hotchkiss dissenting.
Commissioner Katherman then requested a motion to reconsider,
Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded, and the motion passed 4-1, with
Commissioner McNulty dissenting.
The question to uphold the appeal and deny the project was then
called again, and this time failed 1-4, with only Commissioner
McNulty assenting.
Commissioner Hotchkiss then moved to adopt staff recommendation to
deny the appeal, amending the motion to require that both side
windows on the addition be removed. Commissioner Brooks seconded
the motion, and it passed 3-2, with Commissioners McNulty and
Katherman dissenting.
B. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 30 Director Benard presented the
View Restoration staff report regarding the amendment
of the view restoration and
preservation provisions of the Development Code, and the
request to conduct a public hearing and recommend adoption of
the proposed ordinance by City Council . Mr. Benard also noted
that the recommendations had been developed jointly with the
View Restoration Committee. The public hearing was opened.
John Sharkey, 30320 Avenida de Calma, presented a written
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statement and spoke in opposition to the proposed amendment,
stating it would create a cumulative adverse environmental impact
and that it was unconstitutional to take private property without
compensation. Mr. Sharkey also stated he felt the View
Restoration Committee should not have the ability to require tree
removal .
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, objected to the fact that the View
Restoration Committee decisions are not appealable.
Mike Bak-Boychuck, 2020 Crest Road, a lawyer representing several
property owners in lawsuits regarding foliage removal , questioned
the legal jurisdiction of the View Restoration Committee, and
stated that California courts have ruled that such ordinances are
not legal .
Director Benard noted that the City Attorney believed this
ordinance to be constitutional . The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Brooks moved to adopt staff recommendation to
recommend the City Council adopt the proposed ordinance, and
Commissioner Katherman seconded.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated he could not support the motion, as
he felt it would create more problems than already exist with
Proposition "M" in effect.
Chairman Von Hagen declared that since the Chairman of the View
Restoration Committee stated that he could work with this
amendment, it should be adopted. Director Benard noted that the
issue was originally identified by staff as essential to the
ordinance.
Commissioner McNulty opined that this attempt to further modify
the ordinance was not necessary. Mr. McNulty also stated he felt
the ordinance violated basic property rights and would create
serious problems in taking property without due process and in
charging the residents for the procedure.
Chairman Von Hagen reopened the public hearing to allow the
Chairman of the View Restoration Committee to speak.
Larry Clark, 3354 Corinna, Chairman of the View Restoration
Committee, stated he was in agreement with the staff
recommendations and explained how the amendment would facilitate
the Committee' s job, and give the flexibility that legal counsel
feels is necessary to effect the ordinance.
Commissioner Hotchkiss observed that since the Committee' s
decisions were not appealable, the criteria should not be so
subjective. The public hearing was again closed.
The original motion was restated, and passed 3-2 with
Commissioners Hotchkiss and McNulty dissenting.
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RECESS AND RECONVENE A ten minute break was called at
9: 30pm.
C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Director Benard presented the
NO. 131, VARIANCE NO. staff report regarding the
182, GRADING NO. 1066 applicant' s request to extend
Marriott/Crestridge the expiration date of the CUP,
Variance and Grading Permit one year
to April 18, 1992. Staff' s recommendation is to approve the
extension pursuant to all previous conditions remaining in
effect.
Commissioner Brooks asked if there was any way to change the trail
limitations, and Mr. Benard stated that a request for
reconsideration would open up the CUP, and that the Commission
could re-address that concern. The public hearing was opened.
Cheryl Bloodworth, 3130 S. Harbor, Santa Ana, representing the
Marriott Corporation, expressed the company' s continuing
enthusiasm for the project, and desire to proceed as soon as the
legal aspects are settled.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, opposed the project, stating it was
contrary to the General Plan.
Ray Mathys, 5738 Whitecliff, representing the Mesa Palos Verdes
Homeowners Association, asked that the conditions regarding
easements and trails be clarified and changed to match the
original City Council recommendations.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Brooks restated her
concerns regarding the trails limitations.
Commissioner McNulty moved staff recommendation, Commissioner
Hotchkiss seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. Chairman
Von Hagen noted that this action would be by minute order.
NEW BUSINESS
A. MINOR EXCEPTION PERMIT Associate Planner Joel Rojas
NO. 407 -- APPEAL presented the staff report
6863 Alta Vista regarding the appellant' s request to
overturn staff' s denial of a request
to allow a 20% reduction in the required total sideyard
setback for construction of a 720 square foot deck. Staff' s
recommendation is to deny the appeal .
Hannibal Petrossi, 2082 SE Bristol, Santa Ana, architect
representing the appellant, explained why the deck could not be
built in other areas of the property.
As a compromise, Commissioner McNulty suggested the deck be
shortened by 2 ' and follow the property line or 10% reduction in
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the total sideyard setback. The appellant' s representative
finally agreed to the idea.
Commissioner McNulty moved staff alternative #2, to approve the
appeal, with the condition that the deck boundary line shown on
the applicant's drawing be moved 2' to the west, thus giving the
deck a continuous 7' setback along the property line.
Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, requested information regarding
artesian wells in the Klondike Canyon, and Commissioner Hotchkiss
suggested she attend the Abatement District meetings.
COMMISSION REPORTS
Chairman Von Hagen asked about the platform built on the Monaghan
site, and Mr. Benard stated it was a temporary structure for a
film location.
Commissioner Brooks requested Commission consideration of an
excuse for future absences in order to deal with a medical
problem. Commissioner McNulty moved to grant her the excuse of
absence for up to three months, Commissioner Katherman seconded,
and it was so ordered without objection.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10: 50pm to February 4 at Ladera Linda
Community Center.
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