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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 24, 1990 L
The meeting was called to order at 7:34pm by Chairman M ulty
at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT McNulty, Von Hagen, Hotchkiss (arrived 7:43pm),
Brooks, Katherman
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Associate
Planner Laurie Jester, and Assistant Planners Mike Patterson,
Lisa Davidson, Bonnie Olson, Terry Silverman and Fabio de
Freitas.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman McNulty acknowledged receipt of the following
communications: A letter from appellants Mike and Elizabeth
Corcoran regarding Height Variation 661, as well as a packet
of information and letters regarding the same issue; and a
letter from Roger Metzler regarding the Green Hills CUP.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A.
Minutes of June
26,
1990
B.
Minutes of July
10,
1990
C.
P.C. Resolution
No.
90-37/Sign Permit No. 523
D.
P.C. Resolution
No.
90-38/General Plan Amendment 18
E.
P.C. Resolution
No.
90-39/Variance No. 261/Grading No.
1437
Commissioner Von Hagen moved, seconded by Commissioner
Katherman, and carried, to approve the consent calendar.
(Commissioner Brooks noted abstention from Item B since she
had not been at that meeting; but voted approval on all the
other items.)
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Associate Planner Laurie
NO. 155, ENVIRONMENTAL Jester presented the staff
ASSESSMENT NO. 601, GRADING report regarding the
NO. 1442, VARIANCE NO. 262 applicant's request to
Green Hills Memorial Park approve a 100 -year master
27501 S. Western plan for the development of
Green Hills Memorial Park
Cemetery. Staff recommendation is to approve only the
development plans for Phase I and the grading for the entire
site.
Robert Levonian, 436 W. Colorado Blvd, Glendale, applicant,
read a prepared statement objecting to the proposed partial
CUP and setback requirements, stating that such restrictions
interfered with the land use mandated by state law, and that
he was exploring legal remedies. In response to a query from
Commissioner Katherman, Mr. Levonian also stated that he was
willing to offer an 8' strip of land for screen planting and
also that the maintenance of the park was guaranteed through
an endowment care fund.
Paul D. Brown, 1223 Crestwood Street, San Pedro, representing
Green Hills, outlined several concerns he had with the
conditions of approval, including construction hours, tree
maintenance, landscaping requirements, barbed wire and the
County flood control drain.
Arlene Gleich, 2817 Anchovy Avenue, San Pedro, also
representing the cemetery, explained to the Commission that
the endowment care fund was regulated by state law, and that
the funds could not be used on undeveloped land. Ms. Gleich
also asked that the title report deadline be extended to 60
or 90 days, and that the specified facilities operation hours
be extended to accommodate the needs of her clients. She
also objected to the requirement that Green Hills had to
present landscaping plans.
Sharon Goggins, 1915 Redondela Drive, expressed her support
for the staff's recommendations, and her concern that the
proximity of ground interments to her property would cause a
loss of privacy.
Mike McClung, 1896 Peninsula Verde Drive, supported the staff
recommendation and stated that only the perimeter landscaping
impacted the homeowners. Mr. McClung also commended the Park
management on the high quality of the operation.
Dick Brunner, 1906 Peninsula Verde Drive, expressed concern
with the above ground structures and asked that the code
requirment for a 40' setback be adopted. Mr. Brunner also
claimed that the Park was already selling Phase I plots.
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R. Booth Tarkington, 1902 Peninsula Verde Drive, supported
a 40' setback.
Rodman C. Small, 2110 PVDN, #112, Lomita, also supported the
staff recommendations and asked if the partial CUP would
affect the results of the homeowners' negotiations with the
cemetery management regarding the later development phases.
Leo Connolly, 1953 Avenida Feliciano, also spoke in support
of the staff recommendation, and asked that a condition be
added to mandate hedge trimming to fence height on the south
boundary. Mr. Connolly also pointed out a problem with dust
abatement during grading operations.
Arnold Oksenkrug, 1979 Avenida Feliciano, objected to the 16'
setback for below ground burials recommended by his
homeowners association for the later phases.
Helen Metzler, 1921 Avenida Feliciano, also supported the
staff recommendation.
Henry Jeffries, 2110 PVDN, #101, Lomita, asked about signage,
and agreed that the administration building should be open on
Sundays.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved to close the public hearing, and
Commissioner Katherman seconded. Commissioner Von Hagen
stated there were some new issues to be discussed and
questioned closing the public hearing. Mr. Katherman
withdrew his second at this point. Mr. Von Hagen also stated
that he and the applicant used the same law firm, but that he
did not perceive any conflict of interest.
The Commission then allowed applicant Levonian to state that
the Park management had an obligation to develop a portion of
Phase I before the end of the year, and he asked that the
Commission let it proceed. Commissioner Brooks ascertained
from Mr. Levonian that the cemetery was indeed actively
selling Phase I.
Commissioner Brooks seconded the original motion to close the
public hearing, stating that although there were new issues,
it would be possible to vote on the limited CUP. Mr. Benard
noted that the Commission had the ability to discuss as broad
or as narrow a scope of a project as they felt was
appropriate, and to approve and condition it accordingly.
Commissioner Katherman suggested leaving the public hearing
open for the duration of the issue in order to be able to ask
questions, and Ms. Brooks withdrew her second.
Commissioner Von Hagen expressed a question as to whether or
not the Commission could legally approve only a partial CUP,
and whether the applicant was under any legal obligation to
start with Phase I, or if he could start any of the other
phases at any time. Mr. Von Hagen asked if the City Attorney
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had looked at this issue, and Chairman McNulty stated his
concern that a rapid opinion would not be forthcoming with
the recent resignation of the City Attorney. Chairman
McNulty stated that continuing the public hearing would be a
disservice to the neighbors and the applicant. Mr. McNulty
then expressed personal concern that the City was headed for
a lawsuit in taking property without due process of law, and
cited Coastal Commission action in support of his personal
opinion. Mr. McNulty qualified his statement saying that he
was aware of these issues as an attorney, although he was not
speaking as one.
Commissioner Hotchkiss pointed out that there was no setback
issue in Phase I anyway, and Commissioner Brooks restated her
second to close the public hearing. The motion to close the
public hearing passed 4-1 with Commissioner Von Hagen
dissenting.
After a five-minute recess called at 9:10pm, Commissioner
Brooks moved to adopt the staff recommendation with
amendments, and a discussion followed, during which
condition -by -condition adjustments were made to Exhibit "A".
Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded Ms. Brooks' motion, and it
passed 3-2 with Chairman McNulty and Commissioner Von Hagen
dissenting.
(The following item was taken out of order)
NEW BUSINESS
A. TRACT No. 32677 Planner Olson stated that
MISCELLANEOUS the applicant had accepted
Hilltop Circle all conditions of approval
regarding lighting for the
tennis court. Commissioner Brooks moved to approve the
application, Commissioner Katherman seconded, and the motion
passed unanimously.
(PUBLIC HEARINGS CONTINUED)
B. VARIANCE NO. 263 Assistant Planner Mike
30306 Diamonte Lane Patterson presented the
staff report regarding the
applicant's request to allow completion of a partially
constructed deck extending 15' over an extreme slope and a
barbeque area in the side setback. Staff's recommendation is
to approve the application with conditions.
The public hearing was opened, but since there were no people
to speak to the issue, it was closed. Commissioner Brooks
noted that she had visited the site.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved approval of the staff
recommendation, Commissioner Von Hagen seconded, and the
motion passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty noted that this was Assistant Planner Lisa
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Marie Davidson's last meeting, and on behalf of the
Commission, he thanked her for all her good work and wished
her well in her new position.
C. HEIGHT VARIATION Planner Davidson presented
NO. 661 -- APPEAL the staff report regarding
6505 Via Siena the applicant's request to
overturn staff denial of a second story addition, thereby
approving the proposed project. Staff's conclusion was that
there would be a significant near view impact to the property
at 6508 Via Lorenzo, and staff's recommendation is to deny
the appeal.
The public hearing was then opened.
William M. Corcoran, 6505 Via Siena, appellant, presented
photos of the impacted view area in question, stating he felt
there would be no significant view impairment to the Via
Lorenzo house, and he asked the Commission to uphold the
appeal.
Elizabeth A. Corcoran, 6505 Via Siena, co -appellant, also
asked that the Commission uphold the appeal, stating that the
house was currently too small for their growing family.
Elayne Roland, 6504 Via Siena, spoke in support of the
appellants.
Harold Roland, 6504 Via Siena, also spoke in support of the
appellants, and stated that the proposed expansion could
positively effect property values in the area.
Frank Politeo, 809 S. Gaffey, San Pedro, appellants
architect, stated that he did not feel any view impairment
would result from the proposed addition because the Via
Lorenzo property already had a blocked view from trees and
wires. Mr. Politeo also explained that the addition was
designed to fit in with the rest of the house and the
neighborhood.
Eleanor Husted, 6521 Via Siena, spoke against the staff
recommendation.
Helen Johnston, 6613 Via Siena, also spoke against the staff
recommendation, and said that there was a need to remodel the
older houses on the street. Speaking as a real estate agent,
Ms. Johnston stated that she did not believe the Via Lorenzo
house could be classified as a view property.
Arline Tackett, 6520 Via Lorenzo, stated that it was
unreasonable for the Via Lorenzo owners to claim any view
impairment, and she urged the Commission to overturn the
denial.
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Lydia Shors, 6520 Via Siena, also spoke against the staff
recommendation.
Catherine Gassman, 6517 Via Siena, also urged the Commission
to uphold the appeal, stating that the Via Lorenzo area had
not been represented as a view area when the houses were
being sold.
Barry Gassman, 6517 Via Siena, also spoke in support of the
appellants.
Joseph Yankovich, 4121 Miraleste Drive, spoke against the
staff recommendation.
Michael Goodrich, 6612 Via Siena, also spoke against the
staff recommendation.
Steve Spruth, 6512 Via Siena, stated he had looked at the Via
Lorenzo homes when purchasing his, but did not feel any of
them had views, and that he believed that property values
would be increased as a result of this project.
Jerry Rodin, 6508 Via Siena, spoke in support of the
appellant, reading from a prepared statement citing technical
reasons he felt the appellant had the right to develop has
property, and that it did not cause any view impairment.
Patricia Wildasinn, 6348 Via Colinita, spoke against the
staff recommendation.
Betty Haller, 6536 Via Siena, spoke against the staff
recommendation, stating that she felt denial of this project
would set a bad precedent, limiting development an the
Miraleste area, and that this was a poor test of the
Proposition "M" near view aspect.
Jeff Haller, 6536 Via Siena, spoke against the staff
recommendation for the same reasons.
Nick Zar, 6521 Via Siena, who noted that he had been on the
Proposition "M" committee, stated he felt the addition was
compatible with the neighborhood, and that as a realtor, dad
not feel that the Via Lorenzo house could be considered a
view property. Mr. Zar also noted that this was a benchmark
case and could have a severe negative impact on other area
projects. Commissioner Katherman asked Mr. Zar what has
interpretation of a "near" view was as a former Proposition
"M" committee member, and Mr. Zar replied that the intent was
open to interpretation, but the elements of the view in
question are excluded by the language of the new code.
Peter Bozanach, 6508 Via Lorenzo, owner of the potentially
view impacted property, asserted that he had rights under
Proposition "M", and expressed displeasure that people had
come onto his property to take pictures. Mr. Bozanach also
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noted that the foliage blocking his near view was not on his
property. In response to Commission inquiry, Mr. Bonzanich
admitted that his property had not been sold to him as a view
home, but that he felt the sight of the trees and hillside
was important.
Murray Goldenberg, 6504 Via Lorenzo, spoke in support of the
staff recommendation, stated that the staff had competently
dealt with the technical issues of view impairment, and
stated that the proposed addition would impact his view of
the hill and cause him loss of privacy. Commissioner Von
Hagen noted that the staff had not found potential view
impairment at Mr. Goldenberg's property.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that he had visited the site and
residences in question, and felt there was no significant
view impact, that the provisions of Proposition "M" were not
violated here, and that he was in favor of the appeal.
Commissioner Brooks also noted that she had visited the site,
and as a former member of the RPV Council of Homeowner's
Association, she had worked on the original view ordinance
committee, and her interpretation of "near" view addressed
foliage, not buildings. Ms. Brooks stated she did not feel
the hillside could be called a near view.
Commissioner Hotchkiss commended the staff on their work, but
stated he did not feel this was the intent of the ordinance,
and that he would vote to approve the project. Mr. Hotchkiss
also expressed fears about future enforcement of Proposition
limit,
Commissioner Katherman also expressed concerns about
precedent -setting.
At this point, Mr. Benard clarified that the language in the
code regarding existing foliage states that it should not be
considered in a view analysis, and that the hillside in
question does show development but also natural pastoral
aspects. He also stated that other design options could
provide some relief to the perceived view impact, but would
not satisfy the needs of the appellant, although that was not
part of the staff's consideration in this case.
Chairman McNulty noted his opposition to Proposition "M",
stating he felt it was wrong for one person to be able to
block a project. Mr. McNulty also addressed the importance
of addressing this first test case in a logical reasonable
manner. Chairman McNulty stated that he did not feel the
Bozanich property could in any way be construed as a view
property, and that Proposition "M" had been written to
protect existing views, and that he did not feel this was a
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protected view.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt staff alternative #2,
to approve the appeal, thereby overturning the Staff
denial and approving Height Variation No. .661.) Commissioner
Hotchkiss seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. GRADING PERMIT NO. 1445 Lisa Marie Davidson
6000 Sandbrook presented the staff report
regarding the applicant's
request to allow construction of a 10 foot high retaining
wall to be located in the rear yard. Staff's recommendation
is to deny the request.
Greg Abramowitz, 1360 Capitol Drive, San Pedro, applicant
representing the landowner, stated that the wall had been
designed to stabilize the property, and that it didn't impact
anyone.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt staff alternative #1,
to approve the project, Commissioner Brooks seconded, and the
motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
since the 11:00pm deadline had passed, the one remaining New
Business item was not heard.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
There were no questions from the audience.
COMMISSION REPORTS
Commissioner Von Hagen commended Lisa Marie Davidson on her
outstanding work on the first Proposition "M" issue, and said
that all her previous work had been outstanding. Mr. Von
Hagen stated he was sorry to see her go, and the other
Commissioners echoed his sentiments.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 12:00am.
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