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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 12, 1990 L�
The meeting was called to order at 7:30pm by Chair n McNulty
at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.h
PRESENT McNulty, Von Hagen, Hotchkiss, Brooks;''
Katherman
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Senior
Planner Carolynn Petru, Associate Planner Laurie Jester and
Assistant Planners Bonnie Olson, Terry Silverman and John
Leung, Associate Planner.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman McNulty acknowledged a letter from Tim Burrell
regarding Tentative Parcel Map No. 18947, and all the
Commissioners noted they had received a letter from Donald
Malick in support of the proposed Ritz Carlton.
The Commissioners also welcomed new Associate Planner John
Leung, who comes to the City from the County of Santa Barbara
Planning Department.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. GRADING NO. 1151 -- REVISION "B", Tentative Tract No.
46422, Palos Verdes Drive West. Commissioner Von Hagen
noted that he was acquainted with applicant Eugene
Schiappa, but was not involved with this project.
Associate Planner Laurie Jester also noted that the
applicant accepted all the conditions of approval.
Commissioner Brooks moved approval of the consent calendar,
Commissioner Katherman seconded the motion, and it passed
without objection.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT Planning Administrator Curtis
NO. 18, ENVIRONMENTAL Williams presented the staff
ASSESSMENT NO. 613 report regarding the proposed
DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT update of the General Plan
Housing Element. Staff's
recommendation is to accept public testimony, provide
direction regarding suggested changes, and continue the
public hearing to July 10, 1990. Mr. Williams noted that a
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mailing list of noticed residents was also attached as per
the Commission's earlier request. Commissioner Brooks
thanked the staff for the clarified notice, and also noted
that the information on the HOA presidents is not accurate,
as she was no longer president of her Association.
Commissioner Von Hagen expressed surprise that again there
were no members of the public wishing to speak to the issue,
and Mr. Williams noted that several people had stopped by the
staff offices to ask for information on the issue.
Commissioner Brooks made a motion to continue the hearing to
July 10, 1990, Commissioner Von Hagen seconded, and the
motion passed without objection.
B. EXTREME SLOPE PERMIT Associate Planner Laurie Jester
NO. 21 presented the staff report
30332 Via Borica regarding the applicant's
request to allow a deck which
encroaches a maximum of 6 feet over an extreme (62o) slope In
the north west side yard. Staff's recommendation is to
approve the application with conditions.
Commissioner Katherman asked that the conditions of approval
require that the color of the deck extension match the color
of the existing deck. Mr. Katherman then moved approval of
the staff recommendation with the modification, Commissioner
Brooks seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
C. VARIANCE NO. 258 The staff report was presented
28 Narcissa by Assistant Planner Terry
Silverman regarding the
applicant's request to allow construction of a detached 528
square foot garage 15 feet within the front setback. Staff's
recommendation is to approve the application with conditions.
Commissioner Hotchkiss objected to the requirement that the
structure be constructed without windows and have no
redeeming architectural features, and Planner Silverman noted
that the ban on windows was taken from the Moratorium
Exemption Ordinance, although the structure would contain
skylights.
Commissioner Von Hagen complimented Ms. Silverman on the new
readable staff report maps. The public hearing was opened.
Gary Wynn, 1852 Lomita Blvd., Lomita, applicant and engineer
for landowner Larry Horan, stated his agreement with the
conditions of approval.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Katherman moved
approval as per the staff recommendation, Commissioner Von
Hagen seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
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(At this point, it was decided
regarding the appeal on Height
applicant/appellant had not yet
NEW BUSINESS
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to delay hearing Item D
Variation No. 652, since the
arrived.)
A. GRADING NO. 1176 - Senior Planner Carolynn Petru
REVISION "A" presented the staff report
3151 Deluna Drive regarding the applicant's
request to approve a revision
to the approved grading permit for an new single family
residence. Staff's recommendation is to approve the request
with conditions.
Commissioner Katherman suggested that the hours of grading
operation be altered, especially on Saturday, and
Commissioner Brooks agreed, noting that the proposed grading
operations could create safety hazards for the children in
the school across the street. Mr. Benard noted that the
condition allowed for the standard hours of grading
operations allowed in the City, but it could be modified to
accommodate neighboring uses. '
Commissioner Hotchkiss expressed objections to the condition
eliminating the second story windows. Staff noted that all
the conditions of approval had been approved by the
Commission under the original approval, and have been carried
over, and that this specific condition had been requested for
privacy reasons by the next-door neighbor, who had not been
noticed for this hearing. Chairman McNulty suggested
clear story windows as a possible solution to avoid the
"blank wall" look.
A discussion ensued as to the appropriateness of the
Commission's power to attach conditions to grading
applications, and Chairman McNulty noted that it was usually
the only time the Commission had any design input during the
life of the project. a� W
Commissioner Brooks made a motion to approve the application
with the conditions amended/as follows: a) That the grading
operations be limited to t�he hours of 9am to 5pm, Monday
through Saturday during the school year; That a flagman be
required after 2pm to dir ct traffic during the times the
school is in use;, 7:00 .m. to 7:00 p.m. Monday through
Saturday at all other times; and d) That Condition #S be
changed to read, "The bedrokm windows on the second story of
the north elevation shall be modified or be a minimum of 6'
above floor level and the two small bathroom windows shall be
of an opaque material." Commissioner Katherman seconded the
motion, which passed on a 3-2 vote, with Commissioners
Hotchkiss and Von Hagen dissenting.
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(PUBLIC HEARING ITEM D)
D. HEIGHT VARIATION The staff report was presented
NO. 652 -- APPEAL by Assistant Planner Bonnie
4048 Admirable Olson regarding the appellant's
request to overturn staff denial of a second -story addition,
thereby approving the proposed project.
The public hearing was opened.
Dick Hampikian, 4048 Admirable Drive, appellant/applicant,
objected to the denial on the grounds that the original grade
level was overstated by 5'; that the total square footage
indicated in the staff report was too high; that he is unable
to build the proposed addition anywhere else on his property;
that the project was delayed and then altered by the passage
of Proposition M; that only four properties would suffer
potential view impairment; that he had designed the structure
to minimize view impairment in a compatible style with the
rest of the neighborhood, and that he disagreed with the
staff photo analysis indicating view impairment.
Dr. Anthony George, 4104 Exultant Drive, spoke in favor of
the staff recommendation, stating that if the project was
built, it would make the house the highest in the
development, and that it would put a chimney in the middle of
his view.
Dorann Wolf, 4040 Admirable Drive, also spoke in support of
the staff recommendation to deny the application.
Ron Wolf, 4040 Admirable Drive, spoke in favor of the denial,
citing privacy and view concerns.
Steve Perestam, 4032 Exultant Drive, asked the Commission to
uphold the denial, stating that primary views would be
affected.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Von Hagen asked
for clarification regarding the height above grade
disagreement. Mr. Benard stated that the frame height had
been verified by staff, so the frame accurately reflected the
actual height of the proposed structure, and that the
applicant himself had indicated the higher figure on his
original application, but that the 5' difference was not an
issue.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated he did see view impairment, and
could not see a case to allow the variance. Commissioner
Katherman stated he had visited the site and agreed that
there were design alternatives available to the applicant to
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minimize the impact. Mr. Katherman also stated he was more
concerned with precedent -setting action in this case.
Commissioner Brooks complimented the applicant on the quality
of his presentation, but stated that she had visited the site
and did foresee a cumulative impact. Mrs. Brooks suggested
that the applicant work with the City to redesign the
project. Commissioner Von Hagen agreed that the applicant
should redesign the project. Chairman McNulty stated that he
was personally against the concept of neighborhood
compatibility and Proposition M, but since voters had
mandated its use in decision such as these, he would support
the denial since he found the house size excessive in terms
of neighborhood compatibility.
Commissioner Brooks moved to deny the appeal, Commissioner
Katherman seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
(NEW BUSINESS ITEM B)
B. USE DETERMINATION -- Senior Planner Carolynn Petru
APPEAL presented the staff report
Tentative Parcel Map regarding the applicant's
No. 18947 request to overturn the
Director's determination that
the property, if found to be geologically stable, should have
a zoning designation of RS -A-5. Staff's recommendation is to
deny the appeal, thereby upholding the Director's
determination.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated that he had represented
landowner PollocklCapellino in the past and had not had
financial relationship In 3 years, and had no connection with
this project. Upon consulting with the City Attorney, he had
been told that he could vote on this issue.
Tim Burrell, 4038 Exultant Drive, appellant representing the
landowner, stated that he felt zoning should be adjusted so
that the property be designated residential if it had less
than a 35% slope, and Open Space if it was steeper. Mr.
Burrell stated that staff had drawn the RS -4 line well into
the flat area marked for the project when the zoning map was
first created. Mr. Burrell also presented photos showing
typical canyon features and characteristics no longer shared
by this area. He asked that he be allowed to develop four
lots on five flat acres, although the total property totals
B.8 acres. Mr. Burrell also clarified that the loosely
compacted fill comprising part of the proposed development
area will either be recompacted correctly or will need to be
developed with caissons.
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Senior Planner Petru noted that the City Geologist has not
yet made a determination on the developability of the land.
Mr. Benard noted that if the geologist found the land to be
developable, an application could be made for a zone change
to reclassify the property with a residential designation.
Director Benard also stated that the canyon currently serve
as a natural drainage course, and that adjacent levels are at
a higher elevation, putting the property into the view shed.
Commissioner Katherman questioned the ability of the
Commission to change zoning without a noticed public hearing,
and although Commissioner Von Hagen agreed, he stated that
the Commission should give the applicant firm direction one
way or the other. Commissioner Von Hagen then moved that
the zoning district boundary be adjusted so that an RS -4
zoning district apply to the level area at the end of
Windport Drive with a slope of less than 35%, thereby
overruling the Director's decision. Commissioner Hotchkiss
seconded the motion.
At this point, Commissioner Brooks questioned Commissioner
Von Hagen's impartiality on this issue, and Mr. Von Hagen
informed her that as he had stated at the beginning of the
issue, he had no connection with Mr. Burrell or the landowner
on this project.
Mr. Benard noted that the question of the ability of the
Director to administratively rezone is currently under
advisement by the City Attorney, and that the Commissioner's
decision on this case will be taken to the Attorney for
review.
The motion on the floor was voted upon, and passed 3-2 with
Commissioners Brooks and Katherman dissenting. Mr. Katherman
clarified that his "no" vote was because he did not feel this
was the correct procedure to change the zoning. Mrs. Brooks
stated that her "no" vote was for the same reason.
C. SITE PLAN REVIEW Assistant Planner Terry
NO. 5453 -- MISC. Silverman presented the staff
HEARING report regarding the review of
92 Rockinghorse staff's determination regarding
replacement of a non -conforming
structure in the side yard. Staff's recommendation is to
uphold the staff determination.
Fidel Cabanilla, Jr., 92 Rockinghorse, property owner,
presented photos of the original deck, stating he had built
the new one in the same place.
Cliff Espy, 94 Rockinghorse, objected to the staff's
determination, alleging that the deck did not exist in that
location before. Mr. Espy presented photos showing the old
deck.
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Upon examination of both sets of photos, the Commission
determined that the new deck had indeed been reconstructed in
a different location.
Based on this photographic evidence, Commissioner Von Hagen
moved staff alternative #2, to reverse staff's decision,
thereby requiring the property owner to seek appropriate
Planning approvals or remove the deck from the side yard.
Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which passed without
objection.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
There were no questions from the audience.
STAFF REPORTS
Mr. Benard reminded the Commissioners that there would be a
special tour Friday of the Green Hills Memorial Park.
He also stated that he had been requested by the Chairman of
the View Restoration Committee to present a request to the
City Council June 19, 1990 that those committee members be
reimbursed for mileage on site visits. Mr. Benard stated he
would also ask the Council to okay reimbursing the Planning
Commissioners.
Mr. Benard also noted that the joint workshop on Subregion 1
that was to have been held prior to the June 19 City Council
meeting had been cancelled since ownership interests in the
property have changed.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:36pm to Friday, June 15, 1990
at 2:OOpm at City Hall for the Green Hills tour.
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