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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
1� JANUARY 9, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7:35pm by Chairperson Wike
at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
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PRESENT Wike, Hotchkiss, Von Hagen (arrived 7:40pm),
McNulty, Brooks "
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert / p
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Associate
Planners Carolynn Petru and Joel Rojas, and Assistant
Planners Bonnie Olson and Terry Silverman.
COMMUNICATIONS -- None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of December 12, 1989 -- Commissioner Brooks
presented written corrections to the minutes, and Chairperson
Wike also requested three minor changes. Commissioner Brooks
moved to approve the minutes as amended, Commissioner McNulty
seconded, and the motion passed 4-0 (Von Hagen absent).
B. Conditional Use Permit No. 140 (Extension) --
(Commissioner Von Iiagen arrived.) Mrs. Wike indicated that
she did not wish to approve the extension request because she
did not approve originally of the lack of a front setback and
the encroachment of the facade into the public right-of-way.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve the extension,
Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded the motion, and it passed 4-1
with Chairperson Wike dissenting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VARIANCE NO. 244 The staff report was presented
27809 Longhill by Associate Planner Joel Rojas
regarding the applicant's
request to allow an existing accessory deck structure to
encroach 7'4" into the 15' rear setback; 3" into the 5' side
setback, and to exceed the maximum 12' height limit for
accessory structures by 115". Staff's recommendation is to
approve the request with conditions. Mr. Rojas also stated
that the existing upper deck rail must be- raised to meet
Uniform Building Code requirements, which will bring the
structure 2'2" over the maximum allowed height.
The public hearing was opened.
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Ted Haggstrom, 27809 Longhill, applicant, requested approval
of the application and stated he would raise the deck railing
height to meet code requirements.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Brooks moved
approval of the staff recommendation, Commissioner McNulty
seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
B. VARIANCE NO. 251 Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
32410 Nautilus Drive presented the staff report
detailing the applicant's
request for approval of a new single family residence to
exceed the maximum 30 foot downslope height. Staff's
recommendation is to deny the request.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated he felt the view impact was
mitigated by the applicant's redesign of the entry tower, and
that he supported the application. He also noted that the
applicant's immediate neighbor, Mr. F. Merralls, had verbally
indicated support of the variance.
Mr. Benard noted that while the applicant's original proposal
included a flat roof, the pitched roof redesign increased the
ridge height to over 30'. Therefore, the appropriate
application is for a variance, not a height variation, and
findings other than view impairment criteria are required.
Manuel Funes, 13663 S. Prairie, Suite "E", Hawthorne, project
architect, spoke in support of the variance, stating that the
pitched, red -tile roof would match the rest of the
development.
Mr. Benard suggested that if the architect lowered the roof
pitch to 2.5:12, which is an acceptable minimum for tile, and
put a flat cap on the ridge, it might reduce the excess
height over 301.
Dr. Crescenzo Pisano, 32327 Forrestal Drive, neighbor, spoke
against the variance, citing significant view impact.
Mr. Benard advised the Commission of three options: To
continue the hearing, which would indicate to the applicant
that he has to work with staff; or to deny the variance,
after which the applicant could pursue the appeal process
through the Council and maybe not work with staff any
further; or to make findings to approve the project and
direct staff to revise the resolution.
Commissioner McNulty suggested asking the applicant to work
with the staff. Commissioner Hotchkiss stated he did not
like the idea of a flat roof, and wanted to approve the
variance. Commissioner Brooks said that aesthetically she
did not envision this project as beneficial to the overall
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effect on development along the coastline. She also stated
that she would like to direct the applicant to work with
staff, and objected to the bulk of the facade. Commissioner
Von Hagen noted that one of the letters against the variance
was a complaint about houses already built in the
development, but not about the subject house. Commissioner
McNulty suggested that the architect maintain the same look
but redesign the roof pitch.
Commissioner McNulty moved to continue the public hearing to
the January 23 meeting, and to direct the applicant to work
with staff on lowering the ridge height. Commissioner Brooks
seconded the motion, which passed 3-2 with Commissioners Von
Hagen and Hotchkiss dissenting.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson `
NO. 23 "NN", GRADING presented the staff report
NO. 1292 detailing the applicant's
3324 Palo Vista Drive request for an after-the--a"6t
approval of grading fora 6'-7'
high downslope wall in the rear yard. Staff recommendation
is to approve the requested action with conditions.
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Commissioner Brooks stated for the record that she is an
acquaintance of the applicant, but that she did not believe
there was a conflict of interest.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated he would like to know if the
applicant had City -approved plans showing the wall.
Kevin Sears, 3324 Palo Vista Drive, applicant, stated he had
originally showed the plans to staff planner Jack Roberts in
December of 1988, at which time Mr. Roberts told him that the
proposed wall was well within Code restrictions. Mr. Sears
also said that when he returned to get retaining wall
specifications, he was given a brochure, but was never told
of the Seacliff Bills Guidelines that were being developed.
Mr. Sears also presented a petition signed by all his
neighbors which stated that they did not object to the wall.
The applicant also stated that he did not have a City -
approved copy of the original plans.
Mr. Benard noted that the applicant had started the wall
before the guidelines were in effect, but that during a Code
Enforcement investigation regarding the grading activity and
height of the wall, the new guidelines were adopted and
applied to the situation.
Commissioner Brooks suggested that the guidelines be
distributed to Seacliff Hills residents for their
information. Mr. Benard stated that the idea would have to
be examined by the City Attorney since the guidelines were
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January 9, 1990
• not adopted as Code, just to give assistance to staff and to
the Commission. Mrs. Wike agreed with Mrs. Brooks'
suggestion, and stated that the guidelines should at least be
sent to the homeowners Association. Mr. Benard said he would
investigate the possibility of circulating the guidelines.
The public hearing was closed. Chairperson Wike stated she
felt the guidelines should be followed to control the size of
the walls on PVDS and to avoid jeopardizing current
situations, such as the Tam case. She also expressed support
of the staff recommendation to approve the application with a
condition to modify the existing wall to a combination of a
42" retaining wall and a 30" fence.
Commissioner McNulty expressed sympathy for the applicant's
predicament, and noted that the Seacliff guidelines imposed
after the fact on Mr. Sears were not specific standards but
only guidelines. Cu Ac -'AQ t
Commissioner Hotchkiss acknowledg d the bind the applicant
was in, but stated the guideline were s r --goo
reason, and recommended conform ng to�h�.
Commissioner McNulty expressed rong timents 11a the
was unconstitutio 11 imposing ex post facto
•Commission
standards on the applicant. aa�rd- moved to approve staff
alternative #1, approval of the application as submitted
without conditions. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen, but failed 2-3 with Chairperson Wike,
Commissioners Brooks and Hotchkiss dissenting. Chairperson
Wike moved to adopt the staff recommendation to approve the
application with conditions, Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded,
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and the motion passed 3-2 with Commissioners McNulty and Von
Hagen dissenting.
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A ten-minute recess was called at 9:15pm.
B. GRADING NO. 2010-- Reading of the staff report
REVISION was waived. The applicant is
30825 Marne requesting that the conditions
of approval for grading
application No. 1010 be revised to allow existing garden
walls and planter boxes on the rear yard slope to remain.
Staff's recommendation is to approve the applicant's request
with conditions.
Adelaida Abdalian, 30825 Marne, representing the applicant,
claimed that the staff had verbally approved two -foot
planters on the slope, and stated that the landscaping was
not yet done because of family problems.
Mrs. Wike stated that the applicant had violated the
conditions of the original grading application that were
specifically designed to prevent the kind of disturbance of
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the steep slope that has now taken place. She also noted
that not only had the applicant never made an attempt to
landscape the slope, but that he also has a pattern of not
observing correct permit procedures.
Chairperson Wike moved to adopt staff alternative #1 to deny
the request with a condition to restore the slope as
originally recommended in 1987. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen, but was not voted upon.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that he had voted 4ap the ^
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original recommendation to deny the application in 1987,
because he was concerned about the extreme slope, and because
the applicant had received other concessions.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated that the property was an
eyesore, and suggested that the merits of the project be re-
examined without being punitive towards the applicant.
Commissioner Brooks expressed her objections to the
applicant's blatant disregard for the decision-making
process, and stated her concern that approval of this
application would set a bad precedent.
Mr. Benard acknowledged the difficulty of the situation, but
said that the staff feels that a better solution is to
examine the situation as it exists today, and to try and
avoid further damage of the slope that could be caused by
removal of the illegal fixtures.
Chairperson Wike restated her original motion to adopt staff
alternative #1 to deny the request, the motion was re -
seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen, and passed 3-2 with
Commissioners Hotchkiss and McNulty dissenting.
NEW BUSINESS
A. HEIGHT VARIATION Commissioner Von Hagen moved
NO. 640 --APPEAL to receive and file the
6923 Vallon Drive appellant's request to
withdraw this appeal.
Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously.
B. SIGN PERMIT NO. 486 Reading of the staff report
500 Silver Spur Rd. was waived. The applicant is
requesting that the established
sign program be amended to replace two and add one permanent
tenant identification sign. Staff's recommendation is to
approve the application with conditions.
Nancy Fine, 500 Silver Spur Road, representing the
applicant, requested that signage on the west side not
addressed in the staff report be allowed. Ms. Fine also
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asked the Commission to consider granting a larger sign on
the south facade.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that his partner had once
represented the applicant, but did not feel that it
constituted any conflict of .interest.
Mr. Benard stated for purposes of clarification that the
applicant was requesting consideration of a new sign program
for the building, and that they are authorized by the current
owner of the building to do so.
Mrs. Wi.ke noted that if this new program is approved, other
tenants from the building might come in with requests of
their own. Mr. Benard said he did not feel this would be a
problem, since staff is recommending that the east and west
facing signs not be approved, and the south and north facing
sign changes would be relatively insignificant.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve staff recommendation
#1, the motion was seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen, and it
passed unanimously.
C. GRADING NO. 1322 -- The staff report was presented
APPEAL by Planning Administrator
40 75 Marguerite Drive Curtis Williams regarding the
appellant's request to overturn
the staff's denial of grading for a new single family
residence. Staff's recommendation is to deny the appeal.
Liza Gunaratna, 4205 Alonzo Ave., Encino, project designer
for the applicant, gave a brief background on her client, and
asked the Commission to support the appeal.
Mr. Williams stated that since the Code does not contain
specific criteria for excessive grading, the Lunada Pointe
grading guidelines were developed when several owners of the
pre -graded lots started coming in with requests for further
grading to create subterranean living areas. Mr. Von Hagen
noted that the market conditions have changed in the nine
years since the pads were graded, and that people want bigger
houses today. Mr. Benard expressed the staff's concern that
the nature of the tract is being altered. Commissioner
McNulty stated that he felt the "basement" grading in
question was an option never taken into account by the Code,
which more specifically addresses building pad enlargement,
and that since it is done under the footprint, it is
unobtrusive.
Chairperson Wike moved to adopt the staff recommendation to
deny the appeal. Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion,
which failed 2-3 with Commissioners Hotchkiss, Von Hagen and
McNulty dissenting.
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Commissioner McNulty moved to adopt staff alternative #2 to
approve the appeal. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen, and passed 3-2 with Chairperson Nike and
Commissioner Brooks dissenting.
At this point, Mr. Benard asked the Commission for direction
concerning the Lunada Pointe grading guidelines.
Commissioner McNulty said he felt it would take months to
examine and determine the guidelines, and that with only 29
lots and 8 homes left to be approved, it was more easily done
on a case-by-case basis.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE -- None.
STAFF REPORTS
Mr. Benard provided the Commission with the draft language on
the pre-screening workshops at the direction of the Council,
which would be handed out to anyone interested in the pre-
screening process.
`f COMMISSION REPORTS
Chairperson Wike handed out information taken from the
•California League of Cities Handbook detailing how the
Commission can use the staff as a resource. Mr. Benard
stated that the appropriate staff resource was himself. He
also noted that the City Attorney is currently preparing a
procedural guidelines briefing for the Commission regarding
this subject, which is planned for early February.
Commissioners Brooks and McNulty also asked that the
informational pamphlets handed out in the Planning Department
to the public should contain some sort of language that the
information might not apply or be accurate in certain
circumstances.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:18 pm.
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MINUTES `' Q� \,\
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 9, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7s35pm by Chairperson Wike
at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Wike, Hotchkiss, Von Hagen (arrived 7:40pm),
McNulty, Brooks
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Associate
Planners Carolynn Petru and Joel Rojas, and Assistant
Planners Bonnie Olson and Terry Silverman.
COMMUNICATIONS -- None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of December 12, 1989 -- Commissioner Brooks
presented written corrections to the minutes, and Chairperson
Wike also requested three minor changes. Commissioner Brooks
moved to approve the minutes as amended, Commissioner McNulty
seconded, and the motion passed 4-0 (Von Hagen absent).
B. Conditional Use Permit No. 140 (Extension) --
(Commissioner Von Hagen arrived.) Mrs. Wike indicated that
she did not wish to approve the extension request because she
did not approve originally of the lack of a front setback and
the encroachment of the facade into the public right-of-way.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve the extension,
Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded the motion, and it passed 4-1
with Chairperson Wike dissenting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VARIANCE NO. 244 The staff report was presented
27809 Longhill by Associate Planner Joel Rojas
regarding the applicant's
request to allow an existing accessory deck structure to
encroach 7'4" into the 15' rear setback; 3" into the 5' side
setback, and to exceed the maximum 12' height limit for
accessory structures by 1'S". Staff's recommendation is to
approve the request with conditions. Mr. Rojas also stated
that the existing upper deck rail must be raised to meet
Uniform Building Code requirements, which will bring the
structure 212" over the maximum allowed height.
The public hearing was opened.
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Ted Haggstrom, 27809 Longhill, applicant, requested approval
of the application and stated he would raise the deck railing
height to meet code requirements.
The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Brooks moved
approval of the staff recommendation, Commissioner McNulty
seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
B. VARIANCE NO. 251 Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
32410 Nautilus Drive presented the staff report
detailing the applicant's
request for approval of a new single family residence to
exceed the maximum 30 foot downslope height. Staff's
recommendation is to deny the request.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated he felt the view impact was
mitigated by the applicant's redesign of the entry tower, and
that he supported the application. He also noted that the
applicant's immediate neighbor, Mr. F. Merralls, had verbally
indicated support of the variance.
Mr. Benard noted that while the applicant's original proposal
included a flat roof, the pitched roof redesign increased the
ridge height to over 301. Therefore, the appropriate
application is for a variance, not a height variation, and
findings other than view impairment criteria are required.
Manuel Funes, 13663 S. Prairie, Suite "E", Hawthorne, project
architect, spoke in support of the variance, stating that the
pitched, red -tile roof would match the rest of the
development.
Mr. Benard suggested that if the architect lowered the roof
pitch to 2.5:12, which is an acceptable minimum for tile, and
put a flat cap on the ridge, it might reduce the excess
height over 301.
Dr. Crescenzo Pisano, 32327 Forrestal Drive, neighbor, spoke
against the variance, citing significant view impact.
Mr. Benard advised the Commission of three options: To
continue the hearing, which would .indicate to the applicant
that he has to work with staff; or to deny the variance,
after which the applicant could pursue the appeal process
through the Council and maybe not work with staff any
further; or to make findings to approve the project and
direct staff to revise the resolution.
Commissioner McNulty suggested asking the applicant to work
with the staff. Commissioner Hotchkiss stated he did not
like the idea of a flat roof, and wanted to approve the
variance. Commissioner Brooks said that aesthetically she
did not envision this project as beneficial to the overall
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effect on development along the coastline. She also stated
that she would like to direct the applicant to work with
staff, and objected to the bulk of the facade. Commissioner
Von Hagen noted that one of the letters against the variance
was a complaint about houses already built in the
development, but not about the subject house. Commissioner
McNulty suggested that the architect maintain the same look
but redesign the roof pitch.
Commissioner McNulty moved to continue the public hearing to
the January 23 meeting, and to direct the applicant to work
with staff on lowering the ridge height. Commissioner Brooks
seconded the motion, which passed 3-2 with Commissioners Von
Hagen and Hotchkiss dissenting.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 23 "NN", GRADING
NO. 1292
3324 Palo Vista Drive
61- 71* high downslope wall
recommendation is to approve
conditions.
Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson
presented the staff report
detailing the applicant's
request for an after -the -fact
approval of grading for a
in the rear yard. Staff
the requested action with
Commissioner Brooks stated for the record that she is an
acquaintance of the applicant, but that she did not believe
there was a conflict of interest.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated he would like to know if the
applicant had City -approved plans showing the wall.
Kevin Sears, 3324 Palo Vista Drive, applicant, stated he had
originally showed the plans to staff planner Jack Roberts in
December of 1988, at which time Mr. Roberts told him that the
proposed wall was well within Code restrictions. Mr. Sears
also said that when he returned to get retaining wall
specifications, he was given a brochure, but was never told
of the Seacliff Hills Guidelines that were being developed.
Mr. Sears also presented a petition signed by all his
neighbors which stated that they did not object to the wall.
The applicant also stated that he did not have a City -
approved copy of the original plans.
Mr. Benard noted that the applicant had started the wall
before the guidelines were in effect, but that during a Code
Enforcement investigation regarding the grading activity and
height of the wall, the new guidelines were adopted and
applied to the situation.
Commissioner Brooks suggested that the guidelines be
distributed to Seacliff Hills residents for their
information. Mr. Benard stated that the idea would have to
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be examined by the City Attorney since the guidelines were
not adopted as Code, just to give assistance to staff and to
the Commission. Mrs. Wike agreed with Mrs. Brooks'
suggestion, and stated that the guidelines should at least be
sent to the Homeowners Association. Mr. Benard said he would
investigate the possibility of circulating the guidelines.
The public hearing was closed. Chairperson Wike stated she
felt the guidelines should be followed to control the size of
the walls on PVDS and to avoid jeopardizing current
situations, such as the Tam case. She also expressed support
of the staff recommendation to approve the application with a
condition to modify the existing wall to a combination of a
42" retaining wall and a 30" fence.
Commissioner McNulty expressed sympathy for the applicant's
predicament, and noted that the Seacliff guidelines imposed
after the fact on Mr. Sears were not specific standards but
only guidelines.
Commissioner Hotchkiss acknowledged the bind the applicant
was in, but stated the guidelines were set up for good
reason, and recommended conforming to them.
Commissioner McNulty expressed strong sentiments that the
Commission was unconstitutionally imposing ex post facto
standards on the applicant.
Bonnie Olson reminded the Commission that this issue was
before them because of the applicant's failure to obtain the
necessary permits for retaining walls and that the applicant
exceeded the height of side and rear walls as per the City's
pre-existing development code, not the Seacliff Hills
Guidelines on fences, walls and hedges of July 11th.
Commissioner Brooks expressed concern for the fact that the
applicant faced an adjustment to the walls already erected.
She also noted that given the fact that two violations of the
city's development code existed regardless of the recently
enacted guidelines, and the impact the walls have created in
the Seacliff Hills development, were of significant
importance as well.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve staff'alternative #1,
approval of the application as submitted without conditions.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen, but failed
2-3 with Chairperson Wike, Commissioners Brooks and Hotchkiss
dissenting. Chairperson Wike moved to adopt the staff
recommendation to approve the application with conditions,
Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded, and the motion passed 3-2
with Commissioners McNulty and Von Hagen dissenting.
A ten-minute recess was called at 9:15pm.
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B. GRADING NO. 1010 --
REVISION
30825 Marne
application No. 1010 be
walls and planter boxes
Sta€f,'s recommendation
with conditions.
Reading of the staff report
was waived. The applicant is
requesting that the conditions
of approval for grading
revised to allow existing garden
on the rear yard slope to remain.
is to approve the applicant's request
Adelaida Abdalian, 30825 Marne, representing the applicant,
claimed that the staff had verbally approved two -foot
planters on the slope, and stated that the landscaping was
not yet done because of family problems.
Mrs. Wike stated that the applicant had violated the
conditions of the original grading application that were
specifically designed to prevent the kind of disturbance of
the steep slope that has now taken place. She also noted
that not only had the applicant never made an attempt to
landscape the slope, but that he also has a pattern of not
observing correct permit procedures.
Chairperson Wike moved to adopt staff alternative #1 to deny
the request with a condition to restore the slope as
originally recommended in 1987. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen, but was not voted upon.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that he had voted for the
original recommendation to deny the application in 1987,
because he was concerned about the extreme slope, and because
the applicant had received other concessions.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated that the property was an
eyesore, and suggested that the merits of the project be re-
examined without being punitive towards the applicant.
Commissioner Brooks expressed her objections to the
applicant's blatant disregard for the decision-making
process, and stated her concern that approval of this
application would set a bad precedent.
Mr. Benard acknowledged the difficulty of the situation, but
said that the staff feels that a better solution is to
examine the situation as it exists today, and to try and
avoid further damage of the slope that could be caused by
removal of the illegal fixtures.
Chairperson Wike restated her original motion to adopt staff
alternative #1 to deny the request, the motion was re -
seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen, and passed 3-2 with
Commissioners Hotchkiss and McNulty dissenting.
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NEW BUSINESS
A. HEIGHT VARIATION
NO. 640 --APPEAL
6923 Vallon Drive
Commissioner Brooks seconded
unanimously.
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Commissioner Von Hagen moved
to receive and file the
appellant's request to
withdraw this appeal.
the motion, which passed
B. SIGN PERMIT NO. 486 Reading of the staff report
500 Silver Spur Rd. was waived. The applicant is
requesting that the established
sign program be amended to replace two and add one permanent
tenant identification sign. Staff's recommendation is to
approve the application with conditions.
Nancy°Fine, 500 Silver Spur Road, representing the
applicant, requested that signage on the west side not
addressed in the staff report be allowed. Ms. Fine also
asked the Commission to consider granting a larger sign on
the south facade.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that his partner had once
represented the applicant, but did not feel that it
constituted any conflict of interest.
Mr. Benard stated for purposes of clarification that the
applicant was requesting consideration of a new sign program
for the building, and that they are authorized by the current
owner,of the building to do so.
Mrs. Wike noted that if this new program is approved, other
tenants from the building might come in with requests of
their own. Mr. Benard said he did not feel this would be a
problem, since staff is recommending that the east and west
facing signs not be approved, and the south and north facing
sign changes would be relatively insignificant.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve staff recommendation
#1, the motion was seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen, and it
passed unanimously.
C. GRADING NO. 1322 -- The staff report was presented
APPEAL by Planning Administrator
75 Marguerite Drive Curtis Williams regarding the
appellant's request to overturn
the staff's denial of grading for a new single family
residence. Staff's recommendation is to deny the appeal.
Liza Gunaratna, 4205 Alonzo Ave., Encino, project designer
for the applicant, gave a brief background on her client, and
asked the Commission to support the appeal.
Mr. Williams stated that since the Code does not contain
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a
specific criteria for excessive grading, the Lunada Pointe
grading guidelines were developed when several owners of the
pre -graded lots started coming in with requests for further
grading to create subterranean living areas. Mr. Von Hagen
noted that the market conditions have changed in the nine
years since the pads were graded, and that people want bigger
houses today. Mr. Benard expressed the staff's concern that
the nature of the tract is being altered. Commissioner
McNulty stated that he felt the "basement" grading in
question was an option never taken into account by the Code,
which more specifically addresses building pad enlargement,
and that since it is done under the footprint, it is
unobtrusive.
Chairperson Wike moved to adopt the staff recommendation to
deny the appeal. Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion,
which failed 2-3 with Commissioners Hotchkiss, Von Hagen and
McNulty dissenting.
Commissioner McNulty moved to adopt staff alternative #2 to
approve the appeal. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen, and passed 3-2 with Chairperson Wike and
Commissioner Brooks dissenting.
At this point, Mr. Benard asked the Commission for direction
concerning the Lunada Pointe grading guidelines.
Commissioner McNulty said he felt it would take months to
examine and determine the guidelines, and that with only 29
lots and 8 homes left to be approved, it was more easily done
on a case-by-case basis.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE -- None.
STAFF REPORTS
Mr. Benard provided the Commission with the draft language on
the pre-screening workshops at the direction of the Council,
which would be handed out to anyone interested in the pre-
screening process.
Commissioner Brooks requested that the Commission members be
informed of future meetings involving them outside the
regularly scheduled meetings at the earliest possible date in
order to accommodate their schedules.
COMMISSION REPORTS
Chairperson Wike handed out information taken from the
California League of Cities Handbook detailing how the
Commission can use the staff as a resource. Mr. Benard
stated that the appropriate staff resource was himself. He
also noted that the City Attorney is currently preparing a
procedural guidelines briefing for the Commission regarding
this subject, which is planned for early February.
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January 9, 1990
Commissioners Brooks and McNulty also asked that the
informational pamphlets handed out in the Planning Department
to the public should contain some sort of language that the
information might not apply or be accurate in certain
circumstances.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:18 pm.
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* Corrections per attached.
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Suggested Corrections to Minutes of January 9th
Planninng Commmission Meeting
submitted by Susan Brooks
CUP#23"NN"
p.3, Continued Business item A., paragraph 1
"approval of grading for a 6 — 7' high downslope wall..."
p.4.,paragraph 5."... ex post facto standards on the applicant."
Bonnie Olson reminded the Commission that this issue was before
them because of the applicant's failure to obtain the necessar
ermits for retaining walls and that the aDolicant exceeded the
hei ht of side and rear walls as per the city's re—existin
development code. not the Seacliff Hills guidelines on fences.
walls and hedges of July 11th.
insert p.4, after above paragraph.
Commissioner Brooks expressed concern for the fact that the
aDplicant faced an adjustment to the walls alreadv erected. She
also noted that iven the fact that two violations of the city's
development code existed re ardless of the recently enacted
uidelines and the im act the walls have created in the Seacliff
Hills development. were of si nificant im ortance as well.
page 5, paragraph 3.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that he had voted for the original
recommendation to deny the application.
page 7, add to Staff Reports
Commissioner Brooks reguested that the Commission members be
informed of future meetings involving them outside the regularly
scheduled meetings at the earliest possible date in order to
accommodate their schedules.