PC MINS 198911280
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 28, 1989
The meeting was called to order at 7:38pm by Chairperson Wike
at Iiesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT Wike, Hotchkiss, Von Hagen, McNulty, Brooks
ABSENT None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Planning Administrator Curtis Williams, Senior
Planner Greg Fuz, Associate Planners Carolynn Petru, Laurie
Jester and Joel Rojas, and Assistant Planners Bonnie Olson,
Lisa Marie Breisacher, Terry Silverman and Fabzo de Freitas.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Wike acknowledged a letter from Waiter Zell of
the Construction Consortium offering a 90 -day extension on
the Pan Asian project.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of November 14, 1989 -- A correction was made to
the "Communications" section regarding the name of the letter
writer and its contents.
B. Resolution No. 89-69
Commissioner McNulty moved to adopt the consent calendar as
amended, Commissioner Von Hagen seconded, and the motion
passed unanimously.
Commissioner Brooks requested that an effort be made to hear
Agenda Item VII -A tonight due to the timeliness of the
request. Commissioner Hotchkiss asked that Agenda Item VI -C
be heard as soon as possible due to the fact that he had to
leave early. It was decided to hear VI -C then VII -A
immediately after Item V-A.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 147, VARIANCE NO.
236, GRADING NO. 1274,
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
NO. 578
31270 PVDS
Senior Planner Fuz presented
the staff report regarding
the applicant's request to
approve construction of a
28,000 square foot two-story
commercial/retail office
building with subterranean
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parking. Staff continues to recommend approval of issuance
of a Negative Declaration, and adoption of P.C. Resolution
No. 89-70, conditionally approving this project.
Staff also noted revisions to Conditions 13 and 14 regarding
parking spaces and delivery hours, and to Conditions 26, 27
and 28, regarding display of art objects, parking and loading
configurations, and acceptance by the applicant of all of the
CUP conditions within 30 days of the approval.
Chairperson Wike noted that the decorative roof trim and
covered walkway on the revised plans were blocking the
planned view corridor. Commissioner Brooks suggested that
the leaf blower operation hours noted in Exhibit "A"
Condition 22 be changed to conform with city regulations that
such activity not occur between the hours of 5:00pm and
8:00am.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Regina Gilliland, 34 Via Capri, spoke against the
application, citing through -traffic, parking and view loss
problems.
Mr. Benard noted that he had met with some of the Villa Capri
board members, giving them various options to mitigate
potential traffic problems.
Ed Shea, 25 Via San Remo, also spoke against the application.
John Douglass, 62 Via Capri, spoke against the application,
noting his concerns about potential exposure to pollutants,
and requested that an ETR be done.
Deanna Kolbus, 66 Via Capri, spoke against the application,
questioning the accuracy of the temporary framework, and
noting the potential loss of privacy.
Morris English, 60 Via Capri, also spoke against the
application, accusing Mr. Benard of prejudice as a non-
resident and expressing an assumption that the Director of
Environmental Services possesses extensive decision-making
powers. Mr. English also stated he felt this was the
Commission's "pet project."
At this point, Commissioner Von Hagen objected to the use of
the phrase "pet project," commending the staff on their
thorough work on this project. Commissioner McNulty also
expressed his dislike of the speaker's accusations, and
thanked the staff for their excellent work throughout the
entire process. Mr. Benard noted that state law mandates
that a project must be approved within a year of submission,
and due to six major revisions and one denial, the project
has been underway for nearly two years. Mr. Benard also
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noted that the decision-making powers attributed by Mr.
English to the Director of Environmental Services are in
actuality held by the Commission.
Bruno Boval, 6972 Verde Ridge Rd., representative of St.
Paul's Lutheran Church, asked for clarification on various
conditions in the CUP relating to parking and delivery hours.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Brooks moved to accept the applicant's request
for a 90 -day extension. Chairperson Wike seconded the
motion, which failed 2-3 with Commissioners Hotchkiss, Von
Hagen and McNulty dissenting.
Chairperson Wike expressed her displeasure with the
subterranean setbacks, the stairway, view corridor
obstructions, and potential drainage problems that might
require pumps, and stated that she did not support the
project. Mrs. Wike also declared that she felt there were
potentially significant view, air quality and geological
impacts by the project, and she called for a full EIR.
Chairperson Wike suggested that the stairway be moved to the
front of the project.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that the purpose of an EIR is
not to stop a development, but to examine all ramifications
of a project, and that staff has already done so.
Commissioner Von Hagen also felt the stairway should be moved
forward, and noted that drainage and runoff conditions are
improved by development of a property, and that pumps would
not be a reason to disapprove a project. Mr. Von Hagen also
felt that some of the decorative features might impair the
view corridor.
Chairperson Wike clarified her position on the pumps, and
stated that she was not opposed to the pumps but that they
would be a significant part of the project and there was a
potential need for a pumping station, which had been
discussed with Public Works. She then asked Commissioner Von
Hagen if he would be willing to indemnify the residents if
the land moved during excavations. Mr. Von Hagen said no,
it was the job of the applicant's presumably competent civil
engineers, not the Planning Commission, to examine and
guarantee the site design.
Commissioner Brooks stated she could not support the project
because the resolution denying the project cited more valid
reasons than the resolution to accept the project, including
the fact that it was not in conformance with the General
Plan. She then suggested an EIR be done in order to have a
more comprehensive study available. Commissioner McNulty
declared that no EIR had been done because staff had examined
all the different issues for two years, mitigating every
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concern as it came up. Mr. McNulty also stated that if it
weren't for the Villa Capri residents, the Pan Asian project
would have been approved two years ago, and not as the
significantly smaller and unobtrusive version it is now. Mr.
McNulty also noted that the applicant has a right to develop
his commercially -zoned property, and that he supports
approval of the project.
Commissioner Hotchkiss stated that he felt an EIR was an
inappropriate vehicle for most of the concerns addressed, and
that he supports the decorative roof and stairway items to
protect the privacy of Villa Capri residents.
At this point, Chairperson Wike moved to deny the project,
and Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which failed 2-3
with Commissioners Hotchkiss, Von Hagen and McNulty
dissenting.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve the project with the
following conditions: That the space frame be removed; that
no further structures be allowed to encroach in the view
corridor between the permitted covered walkways; that the
stairway be moved west; that no trash bins be allowed in the
rear or side areas, only in an enclosed, conforming structure
in the front of the building; and that the applicant accept
the staff's revisions to the conditions of approval. The
motion and conditions were seconded by Commissioner
Hotchkiss, and the project was approved 3-2 with Chairperson
Wike and Commissioner Brooks dissenting.
(Please note that Public Hearings Agenda Item B was heard
after the following two items.)
(CONTINUED BUSINESS ITEM)
C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. The staff report was
132 - EXTENSION - presented by Associate
Miraleste Elementary Sch. Planner Laurie Jester,
6245 Via Canada regarding PVPUSD's request
that the Commission grant a
two-year extension to allow the continuation of multiple
private uses at Miraleste Elementary School. Staff's
recommendation is to continue this item to the December 12
meeting.
Manuel Louis, 6416 Via Canada, asked the Commission to deny
the extension of the CUP unless denial would hurt
negotiations between the City and the school district. He
also presented photos showing the continuing neglect at the
facility.
Chairperson Wike noted that Mayor Bacharach had requested
that the Planning Commission continue the item to the
December 12 meeting because the Council subcommittee
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currently negotiating with the school district is meeting on
December 11 to obtain information which may affect this
decision. Mr. Benard stated that staff will be prepared to
make a recommendation at the next meeting.
Commissioner McNulty moved to extend the Conditional Use
Permit to December 12 only, with no further extensions.
Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously.
A ten-minute recess was called at 9:45pm.
(NEW BUSINESS ITEM)
A. SPECIAL USE PERMIT NO. 77 The staff report was
Wallace Ranch Lots 45146 presented by Associate
San Pedro Peninsula YMCA Planner Carolynn Petru,
detailing the applicant's
request to approve Lots 45 and 46 of the Wallace Ranch as a
temporary Christmas tree lot for the YMCA. Staff's
recommendation is to accept public testimony and consider the
alternatives.
Commissioner Von Hagen stated for the record that he is an
advisor to the Wallace Radio Ranch Museum and is currently in
negotiations with Wallace Ranch owner Mr. Miller, but that he
does not feel this is a conflict of interest in this case.
Robert V. Sheetz, 6502 Abbottswood Drive, representing the
YMCA, detailed the fundraising efforts of his group, and
requested approval of the application. tie also addressed
safety concerns regarding truck traffic.
Commissioner Von Hagen suggested that the end date for the
use be changed to December 24, and that Condition #7 be
amended to add the word "operational" in front of "water hose
with nozzle."
John Swift, 301 S. Bandini, San Pedro, also representing the
YMCA, explained that the two lots had specifically been
chosen since they were the farthest away from the
construction activity.
Commissioner Brooks suggested changing the cleanup deadline
to December 26.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve the application,
amending the end date to December 24, the cleanup deadline to
December 26, noting the amended word in Condition #7, and
changing the hours of operation to 9:00am to 9:30pm every day
of the week. Commissioner Von Hagen seconded the motion,
which passed unanimously.
(PUBLIC HEARINGS
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CONTINUED)
B. VARIANCE NO. 243 Assistant Planner Bonnie
6108 PVDS Olson presented the staff
report regarding the
applicant's request to maintain an existing 280 square foot
roofed porch enclosure in an existing non -conforming
commercial use in a single family residential zone. Staff's
recommendation is to deny the application.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that he has known the applicant
for ten years.
Robert Haase, 20 Seacove, applicant, asked the Commission to
approve the application and stated that he wanted to keep the
property low -profile, although it has been vacant for one
year.
Mr. Benard noted at this point that under the code, if a non-
conforming use is discontinued for a period of 180 days or
more, the non -conforming status is discontinued, and
therefore this application is inappropriate at this time.
Mr. Benard suggested that the Commission table this item and
direct the applicant to make the proper application to the
City for re-establishment of a non -conforming use. Mr.
Benard also stated that the procedure could not merely be
amended under this application because it has not been
properly noticed.
Commissioner Brooks moved to table the item, Chairperson Wike
seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Hotchkiss left the meeting at 10:30pm.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. GRADING NO. 1269 Assistant Planner Lisa Marie
5325 Ironwood Breisacher presented the
staff report regarding the
applicant's request to approve a new single family residence
on a lot with an average slope exceeding 35%. Staff's
recommendation is to approve the application with conditions.
Craig Knickerbocker, 8 Arrowhead Lane, RHE, landowner and
applicant, detailed the recent history of the lot and
meetings he had held with local residents to discuss and
mitigate any concerns they might have. He also asked that
the 3' retaining wall be allowed.
David Boyd, 2315 Lomita Blvd., Lomita, architect, answered
the Commission's questions regarding the retaining wall and
setbacks.
Chairperson Wike noted that although she doesn't favor the
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retaining wall because it is a natural overlay distract, she
lauds the applicant's efforts to meet with local homeowners,
and stated that he had done a nice job of size reduction.
Commissioners Von Hagen and McNulty noted that the house is
smaller and well-placed, and that the virtually invisible
retaining walls make the land more useable.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt the staff
recommendation with the omission of Paragraph 2(b) to keep
the retaining walls with the conditions that they be no
higher than 3.5', and that a landscape covenant and
landscape/fencing/wall plan be filed. Commissioner McNulty
seconded the motion, which passed 4-0.
B. GRADING NO. 1309 The staff report was
5321 Ironwood presented by Assistant
Planner Lisa Marie
Breisacher regarding the same applicant's request to approve
a new single family residence on a lot of an average slope
exceeding 35%. Staff's recommendation is to approve the
application with conditions.
Barbara Dye, 7035 Hartcrest Drive, representing the Trails
Committee, suggested that the trail be superimposed on the
existing sewer easement, and connected to the fire access
trail, and also to an easement across the canyon. She also
requested that the trail be dedicated pedestrian/equestrian
even though only pedestrian access is available now.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, stated that the criteria is met to
make the area an equestrian zone, and she read letters from
area residents supporting equestrian use of the trail.
Chairperson Wike stated that she felt the grading on this
project was excessive, and asked if the applicant was
amenable to reducing it. Mr. Knickerbocker said he could
reduce grading on this lot. Mrs. Wike also said that
although she approves of the project, she disagrees with the
proposed irrevocable equestrian dedication, which she felt
was important enough to be specifically noticed to local
residents. Commissioner Von Hagen said that he felt
equestrian use was appropriate for the area. Mr. Benard said
that the noticing for tonight's meeting was for the grading
issue only, not for the trail issue, and that if the trail is
dedicated for pedestrian use only tonight, it can be re -
noticed later for another public hearing if equestrian use
becomes desirable.
Commissioner McNulty moved to adopt staff recommendation,
with the condition that the trails be dedicated "pedestrian
only." Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which passed
3-1 with Chairperson Wike dissenting.
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NEW BUSINESS
B. SIGN PERMIT NO. 376-476 The staff report was waived
- EXTENSION - and Commissioner McNulty
28901 Western moved to accept the staff
(The Terraces) recommendation to approve a
six-month extension of the
permit with conditions. Commissioner Von Hagen seconded the
motion, which failed 2-2, with Chairperson Wike and
Commissioner Brooks dissenting.
Chairperson Wike commented that the overlarge leasing sign
should be made to conform with code as it had illegally been
increased by 16' without permits. Mrs. Jester noted that the
sign is only temporary, and therefore is not subject to those
regulations. Commissioners Von IIagen and McNulty also noted
that leasing signs are usually larger to attract attention.
Richard Bara, 1 Peppertree, demanded that the illegal sign be
made to conform to the size of the previously approved sign.
Chairperson Wike moved to approve the six-month extension for
both signs, with the conditions that the leasing office sign
be reduced to 20 square feet, and that all tenant signage on
the freestanding sign be removed within 7 calendar days. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Brooks and failed 2-2
with Commissioners Von Hagen and McNulty dissenting.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt staff recommendation
#3, including a six-month extension for the existing 36
square foot leasing sign. Commissioner McNulty seconded the
motion, which passed 3-1 with Chairperson Wike dissenting.
(The following two new business items were taken out of
order)
D. GRADING NO. 1310 Commissioner Brooks noted
6264 Ocean Terrace that as she had been unable
to gain access to the
property, and since the Commission had passed the llpm cutoff
time for new business, she requested that the item be
continued as per the Commission's established procedural
rules. After Mr. Benard had established that there still
would be a quorum for a vote, Commissioner McNulty moved to
adopt the staff recommendation, and Commissioner Von Hagen
seconded the motion.
Chairperson Wike stated that she had not been able to see the
property either, and preferred a continuation.
Robbie Lewis, 6264 Ocean Terrace, applicant, protested a
possible delay, and stated that she had not been informed
that the Commissioners would be viewing the site and need
access. Mrs. Wike and Mrs. Brooks said they would make
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special arrangements with her to see the property.
Chairperson Wike moved to continue the item to the December
12 meeting and Commissioner Brooks seconded the motion, which
passed 3-1 with Commissioner Von Hagen dissenting.
Commissioner McNulty requested that Mr. Benard ask the City
Attorney to clarify the duty of a planning commissioner to
visit agenda sites, and if there are appropriate grounds to
continue an item if one or more of the commissioners has not
actually visited the site. Mr. McNulty stated that he did
not feel it was absolutely necessary for a commissioner to
visit a property if there were detailed plans and photographs
available.
C. ENCROACHMENT PERMIT
40 Santa Barbara
the applicant's request
wall and two decorative
the public right-of-way.
approve the applicant's
NO. 16 The staff report was
presented by Associate
Planner Joel Rojas regarding
to allow a portion of an existing
pilasters to encroach four feet into
Staff's recommendation is to
request with conditions.
Dr. John Furesh, 40 Santa Barbara, applicant, requested that
his pilaster lights be allowed to remain.
Chairperson Wike moved to accept the staff recommendation,
but the motion failed for lack of a second.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to accept the staff
recommendation, deleting paragraph (a) which required removal
of the lights. Commissioner McNulty seconded the motion,
which passed 3-1 with Chairperson Wike dissenting.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE -- None.
COMMISSION REPORTS -- Commissioner Von Hagen reported that
the SWAPO luncheon was very interesting and included code
enforcement discussions.
ADJOURNMENT -- The meeting was adjourned at 12.05am.
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