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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 12, 1989
The meeting was called to order at 7:31pm by Chairperson Wike
at Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Hotchkiss, Von Hagen, Wike, McNulty, Brooks
ABSENT: None
Also present were Planning Administrator Curtis Williams,
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru, Assistant Planner Bonnie
Olson, and Associate Planner Joel Rojas.
COMMUNICATIONS
There were no communications.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Minutes of 8/8/89
B. P.C.Resolution No. 89 Conditional Use Permit No. 23 -
Rev. "GG" and Extreme Slope No. 14, 3239 PVDS -- Chairperson
Wike requested that the Resolution incorporate a specific
condition requiring an irrigation, fencing and wall plan to
adhere to the Seacliff Halls guidelines.
C. P.C. Resolution No. 89, Conditional Use Permit No. 132,
6245 Via Canada.
D. Conditional Use Permit No. 23"JJ," Grading No. 1216, 3507
Palo Vista -- Chairperson Wake suggested asking the Building
Department to make sure the applicant adheres to the approved
plan regarding the retaining wall height.
Commissioner Hotchkiss moved to approve the entire consent
calendar as amended above. Commissioner McNulty seconded,
and the motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VARIANCE NO. 241 Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson
29010 Bayend presented the staff report.
Staff's recommendation is to
approve the applicant's request for approval of an existing
7' encroachment into the streetside setback.
Mr. Williams noted the deletion of Item #2 in the Resolution
regarding the fee waiver. He said that the City Council
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will determine if the fee waiver is justified or not.
Chairperson Wike declared the public hearing open.
Craig Maples, 13314 S. Hindry, Hawthorne, contractor and
partial owner of the property, explained how the staff and
contractor misread the sewer map which caused the original
plan error. He also requested that Section 5 of the
Resolution be amended to allow an 18" trim on the addition in
order to match the rest of the house.
The public hearing was closed. Chairperson Wike suggested
that due to the encroachment into the setback, the Resolution
incorporate a landscaping plan.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt the staff
recommendation with Section 5 amended to allow for the 18"
trim, and to incorporate a landscaping and fencing plan
requirement. Chairperson Wike seconded, and the motion
passed unanimously.
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson
NO. 33 --REV "L", GRADING presented the staff report.
NO. 1291, EXTREME SLOPE Staff's recommendation is to
NO. 15 approve, with conditions, the
1 Burrell Lane applicant's request for
changes in grading and in the
originally approved footprint on this new single family
residence and denial of Extreme Slope #15 to allow two 6'
decks to cantilever over an extreme slope.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Richard Greer, 24254 Hawthorne Blvd., Torrance, architect,
spoke on behalf of the applicant and stated that the new deck
is only 1/3 the size of the originally planned one.
Jim Gleason, 3 Burrell Lane, noted that the City was involved
in the development's CC&R's. He also asked for clarification
on the approved ridge height of the new house. Ms. Olson
noted that the Staff Report, Page 2, Paragraph 3 should read
"5 inches," not "5 feet," and that the actual ridge height is
1185.5', only 5 inches above the originally approved
ridge line.
Al Duska, 2 Burrell Lane, objects to the 20' wall of the
garage structure only 7' from his property line, and the
height of the proposed ridge line. Planning Administrator
Curtis Williams noted that the new footprint is farther from
the Duska's property line than the originally approved one.
Mrs. Janet Duska, 2 Burrell Lane, expressed concern about the
height of the ridge line and the lot coverage of the proposed
project. She also questioned the height -of the original pad,
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saying that dirt had been added to the pad. Ms. Olson stated
that a May 1989 topographic survey coincides very closely to
the original tentative tract map of 1979 as far as height of
the pad.
Harvey Brown, 8 Burrell Lane, representing the Homeowners
Association, expressed concerns regarding excessive
cantilevering of the decks, view impairment to the Duskas and
Del Cerro Park caused by the 20' garage wall, and overintense
use of the property. He also noted that the applicant must
deal with the Homeowner's Association architectural committee
and work within the CC&R's.
Mr. Bob Vitro, 1 Burrell Lane, applicant, stated that he was
not aware of the controversy, the CC&R's or need to work
with the Homeowners Association, since he believed he was
working within pre -approved building guidelines. He offered
to remove the cantilevered decks from the plan.
Mrs. Anita Vitro, 1 Burrell Lane, applicant, stated she had
read the CC&R's but believed the plans had to be submitted to
the Planning Commission first.
Ms. Olson stated that the Vitro project contained a 4557
sq.ft. footprint, 3400 sq.ft. of landscape and 8500 sq.ft.
of hardscape for a total of 16,457 sq.ft. of level buildable
area which results in 910 open space after development due to
the large amount of unuseable land, or 500 open space of
useable land.
Harvey Brown suggested that the applicant work with the
Homeowners Association first and come back to the Commission
with a more workable plan.
Mrs. Lorna Burrell, 1 Park Place, original subdivider of the
development, denied that any dirt had been stockpiled on the
pad.
Mrs. Anita Vitro stated that there is a tight financial time
frame for them, and doesn't understand why there is a problem
if they are working within orginally established guidelines.
Chairperson Wike noted that if the applicant would drop the
ridge height 6", and since the decks are no longer in
question, no variance is necessary, and the applicant could
get the project approved over the counter. Mrs. Wike noted
that the applicant would still have to deal with the CC&R's.
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner McNulty moved for a continuance on this matter
to the next regular meeting so that the applicant and
Homeowners Association can meet. Commissioner Von Hagen
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
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C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 146, ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT NO. 576
29000 Western Ave.
radiology van periodically on
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Planning Administrator Curtis
Williams presented the staff
report. Staff's recommen-
dation is to approve, with
conditions, applicant's
request to park a mobile
an existing commercial lot.
Chairperson Wike declared the public hearing open.
Chris Courtney, 4605 Lankershim Blvd., #802, N. Hollywood,
spoke as a representative for applicant Dr. Taus. Mr.
Courtney noted that Dr. Taus has taken several steps to
minimize the disturbance of the van to the nearby residents
including adhering to the new limited hours; installing an
electrical hookup so the generator is not necessary, and
contacting the Harbor Walk Homeowners Association and
affected residents directly.
Earl Jordan, 1445 Brett Place, San Pedro, spoke against the
CUP, representing the Harbor Walk Homeowners Association.
Mr. Jordan stated that Dr. Taus had trespassed into the
development, harassing residents. Mr. Jordan also asked why
the unit could not be parked in the front on Western Ave. He
also feels this situation threatens residential property
values.
Eileen Barrett, 1445 Brett Place, San Pedro, spoke against
the CUP, stating that even the limited hours of operation of
the van infringe on her time at home.
John J. Huelbig, Jr., 1445 Brett Place, San Pedro, spoke
against the CUP.
Dr. David Streeter, 516 Avenida Miroia, PVE, spoke in favor
of the CUP, citing the need for this type of facility.
John Weiker, 31035 Rue Langlois, spoke against the CUP.
Chris Courtney spoke again and rebutted several points
brought up by the residents.
The public hearing was closed. Chairperson Wake asked if a
decibel reading on the noise could be taken and Mr. Williams
said that equipment was not readily available. Commissioners
McNulty and Von Hagen questioned the use of the parking lot
as an appropriate place to conduct business.
Commissioner McNulty moved to approve the staff
recommendation to continue the CUP conditionally for sax
months, at which time the applicant must have found an
alternative site, unless an on-site location acceptable to
the Fare Department and unobtrusive to the residents is
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discovered, at which time the CUP would be reconsidered for
renewal. Commissioner Hotchkiss seconded the motion, and it
passed 4-1 with Commissioner Von Hagen dissenting.
A fifteen -minute recess was called at 10:10pm.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO.
37885 -REV., CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 79 -REV.,
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
NO. 584
Forrestal Drive, NW of
Pirate Drive
Associate Planner Carolynn
Petru presented the staff
report with comments from
the Director of Public Works
and City Attorney incorporated
into the staff's original
resolutions. A revised site
plan and lot size calculations
were also submitted.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Barbara Dye, 7035 Hartcrest Drive, spoke on behalf of the
Trails Committee, and stated she was pleased with the trails
plan.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, also representing the Trails
Committee, asked for various small language changes
throughout the Resolution.
Dan Gerken, 3501 Jamboree Road, Newport Beach, representing
applicant J.M. Peters, recapped the revised plan.
Chairperson Wike asked Mr. Gerken if he could increase the
rear setback to 20' instead of the proposed 10' setback. Mr.
Gerken agreed to do so.
Kay Bara, 1 Peppertree, spoke against the project.
The public hearing was closed. Chairperson Wike noted that
the CUP conditions require only one foundation to be poured
within two years of the recordation of the Final Map to keep
the CUP from expiring, and she suggested that this number be
increased. She also asked for a recommendation to the
Council that the trail maintenance and liability be in the
hands of the City, not the Homeowners Association.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that the City Attorney has
already approved the listed conditions in accordance with
City Policy and he discussed the proposed limits on the
liveable square footages of the homes.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to approve the second revision
with three conditions: That the rear setback be increased to
201; that 20% of all foundations, not just one, be in place
within two years of the recordation of the Final Map to
prevent the CUP from expiring; and that the liveable area
square footage constraints be removed to allow the
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applicant's architect to design the project within all other
height, setback and lot coverage requirements previously
suggested by the staff. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Hotchkiss, and it passed 3-2 with Chairperson
Wike and Commissioner Brooks dissenting.
B. SIGN PERMIT NO. 459 Planning Administrator Curtis
28631 Western Ave. Williams presented the staff
report regarding approval of
specific signage in this
commercial center. Staff recommends that one of the two
requested signs be approved for the second floor, plus one
additional monument sign only.
Mr. Lee R. Argabright, 25631 Western Ave., #101, spoke
against the staff recommendation, stating that there is a
vacancy problem due to the lack of signage, which is
otherwise prolific up and down Western Avenue.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that the Planning Commission has
worked very hard on sign restrictions to clean up Western
Avenue, but that this particular building is being penalized
because of the second story internal hallway design.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to approve the applicant's
request for a monument sign not to exceed 8' in height or 60
sq.ft. There is to be only one business name per slot,
street numbers left where they are now, and wall mounted as
per staff's recommendation. Commissioner McNulty seconded
the motion, and it passed unanimously. The Commission also
noted that the banners currently up have to be removed before
this permit is issued.
NEW BUSINESS
Items A and B were continued to the next meeting due to the
lateness of the hour.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
There were no questions from the audience.
STAFF REPORTS
There were no staff reports.
COMMISSION REPORTS
* Commissioner Brooks suggested that the Planning
Commission's agenda should be sent to the local paper in
advance.
* Chairperson Wike mentioned the upcoming SWAPC luncheon.
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* Planning Administrator Williams is working on improving
identification signage on vacant lots.
* Chairperson Wike would like to rethink policy on RPD's
and discuss them with the City Council.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 12:42 AM.
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