PC MINS 19890214MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 1989
The meeting was called to order at 7:34 p.m. by Chairperson
Wike at Fred Hesse Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard,
Rancho Palos Verdes.
PRESENT: Von Hagen, Wike, McNulty, Ortolano, Connolly
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Senior Planner Greg Fuz, Assistant Planner Laurie
Brigham, Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson and Assistant Director
of Public Works Kevin Smith.
COMMUNICATIONS: Director of Environmental Services
Benard noted that communication
had been received and distributed
to the Commission from Connie
Lufkin relative the Coastal Permit
No. 65 appeal, Item 5E. Further,
that a flyer was received and
distributed relative the Southwest
Area Planning Council.
Chairperson Wike noted that no
other communication had been
received.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Minutes of January 11, 1989 The minutes of the meeting held
January 11, 1989, were approved as
submitted, with Commissioner
Connolly abstaining (due to his
absence at that meeting).
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February 14, 1989
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Conditional Use Permit
No. 138
Variance No. 205
Grading No. 1101
Environmental Assessment
No. 552
The Staff report on this item was
waived. In response to Chairperson
Wike I s request, Senior Planner Fuz
requested a sense of whether the
Planning Commission agrees with
Staff's recommendation to
conditionally approve the project
based on the latest revision, and
also, if they had any comments or
direction on conditions of
approval. Mr. Fuz noted that the
applicant has given a verbal
authorization to extend the time
limit on the application to the
next meeting and that a written
confirmation was expected at the
meeting. It was also noted that
the applicant did not intend to
redesign to a single story
building. They redesigned to
lower the maximum height of the
building so that it is less than 5
feet above the pad level of the
upsloped Villa Capri Town Homes but
will not lower it anymore.
Commissioner Ortolano requested information on the height of the
proposed two story building. Mr. Fuz stated that it will be at
an elevation of 2641, which is approximately 261 above the
average elevation at the front of the building and will be less
than 51 above the pad elevation of the Villa Capri Townhomes that
are upslope from the property.
In response to Commissioner Ortolano's question relative to
primary view, Mr. Fuz noted that the proposed building would
interfere with the ocean view from the ground floor of the five
homes behind the building.
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Commissioner Von Hagen questioned if the elevations that were
being addressed in this staff report were correct. Mr. Fuz
confirmed that these were the correct elevations.
Commissioner Connolly questioned the number of parking spaces
proposed and the reason for the seemingly excessive amount of
spaces requested by the applicant. Mr. Fuz stated that the
applicant's parking calculations were based on gross
area while Staff's calculations are based on estimaa-ted
".-leaseable area. Mr. Fuz also noted that additional spaces could
allow the building to accommodate future restaurant use if a
cup revision - -is approved.
Commissioner Ortolano stated that she believed that a two story
building , would eliminate most of the view. Mr. Fuz responded
that strictly speaking, per the development code standards for a
commercial project, that view isn't the only factor to consider
when establishing allowable building height.
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Chairperson Wike stated that she visited the Villa Capri units
prior to the hearing and noted that to consider a two story building.
for this project and not consider view from the new condominiums,iis
very inappropriate as it would eliminate the near ocean view and
does not favor or support a second story for this project.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Mr. Benard stated that the applicant had indicated that he could
not attend the meeting.
Kenneth Creal, 220 South Pacific Coast Highway, representing
E.S. Developers, as well as the five homeowners that are
currently on escrow for the new Villa Capri Townhomes, stated
that the Commission had said everything that needed to be said
and that he wanted to reiterate the objections of the five
prespective homeowners immediately upslope from the proposed
project.
Commissioner McNulty questioned whether anyone had informed the
prospective homeowners that commercial development was possible
in front of them. Mr. Creal wasn't aware whether they had or
not, since that was a marketing aspect which he is not
associated with. A brief discussion ensued regarding height
requirements for commercial and non-commercial uses.
Chairperson Wike closed the public hearing.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to grant the applicant the requested
continuance until February 28th.
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Discussion was called by Commissioner Connolly who questioned if
a decision would be forced on the Commission at that time if a
continuance was granted. Mr. Fuz confirmed that a decision would
be forced. Mr. Benard explained that the Commission is
operating on a time extension that was granted in January that
would allow the Commission to process this on January 24th. He
noted that the item was continued on the 24th to allow the
applicant more time, and it was continued until this meeting
again because the applicant did not have plans ready for review.
Upon verfication, Mr. Fuz stated that the written extension had
not been received as of this evening as stated by the applicant
and that the City is operating on a verbal time extension because
the letter orginally submitted refers specifically to January
24th.
Mr. Connolly inquired if by virtue of not receiving a
notification in writing, would the project be automatically
approved. Mr. Benard stated that the project is never
automaticaly approved, although the applicant may have that claim
by law.
Mr. Benard stated that Staff had originally submitted a
resolution for denial to the Commission but that this
recommendation changed to conditional approval when the latest
revisions were proposed by the applicant. However, Mr. Benard
noted that the recommendation of conditional approval was subject
to receipt of a valid time extension from the applicant.
Commissioner Von Hagen requested to repeal his second to the
motion.
Commissioner McNulty removed his motion from the floor.
Motion was made by Commissioner Connolly and seconded by
Commissioner McNulty to deny the project without prejudice.
Motion unanimously passed.
Conditional Use Permit
No. 144
Environmental Assessment
No. 563
Variance No. 224 The Staff report was waived.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
There was no one to speak to the item.
A motion was made by Commissioner Connolly and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to continue the public hearing until
February 28, 1989. Passed unanimously.
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Variance No. 228
3335 Palo Vista
The Staff report was waived.
Assistant Planner Marcia
Smith noted that there was one
correction. She stated that
page 3 - second paragraph,
lines 6 and 7, should read
"The height of the roof was 1
to 7 inches above the approved
height of the roof..." instead
of "...the roof was 17 inches
above the approved height..."
There was no one to speak to the item.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Connolly to approve the project with conditions per
Staff's recommendation.
Commissioner Ortolano called for discussion. Commissioner
Ortolano requested if a landscaping covenant and a fencing plan
could be a part of the variance. Mr. Benard stated that the
original approval on the conditional use permit revision had that
language and is still in effect.
Chairperson Wike stated that there was a motion and a second on
the floor and asked for a vote. motion unanimously passed.
Conditional Use
Permit 143
Environmental Assessment
No. 562
Associate Planner Laurie
Brigham presented the Staff
Report and noted that the
applicant is requesting
approval of a roving field
archery range on the vacant
quarry site off of Forrestal
Drive adjacent to the Ladera
Linda Community Center.
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Ms. Brigham stated that Staff's main concern with the project is
that the Recreation and Parks Department has an agreement with
the property owner to utilize the site for a "Discovery"
educational program. Due to the conflicts with the existing uses
on the site, because the two users would randomly use the site
and it would be difficult to schedule the two uses together,
Staff recommends denial of the project. Ms. Brigham added that it
is Staff's belief that the Discovery Program is the best use of
this site due to the year round water and abuundance of wildlife
and vegetation. The applicant is reviewing alternative locations
for the Archery range. Ms. Brigham emphasized that the denial of
this conditional Use Permit application will in no way affect the
review of a revised application.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing
Bob Pinkerton, 6364 Lewis Avenue, Long Beach, represented the
South Bay Archery Club in its request for the field on the quarry
site. Mr. Pinkerton requested a continuance to investigate
other options. Mr. Pinkerton also stated that if there are no
other options open, he would be willing to make concessions.
Chairperson Wike closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Ortolano stated that Mr. Hon has permitted the City
to use his property for chaperoned educational walks, which is
the extent of his permission. The Staff report is treating this
property like park land. The City cannot deny him the use of the
property for the reason that we have park and recreational use
and that our free use is incompatible with his proprietory use.
She continued that if Staff's recommendation was because of
safety reasons, that was a different issue. She stated that she
is familiar with that property and believes that this terrain
would be suitable for an archery club.
Mr. Benard stated that when the property was taken over by the
Hon Corporation there were certain representations of use that
existed and that continued on. It was Mr. Hon's desire to be as
cooperative as he could to make this property as available as
possible, and that the recommendation for denial of this use was
made with the concurrance of the Hon Company.
Commissioner Von Hagen was also concerned with the uses of the
property and stated that Commissioner Ortolano's comments were
well taken.
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Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Connolly to table the item until the applicant has
reviewed the alternative locations and is able to submit a
revised Conditional Use Permit application. Motion passed 4 to 1.
Commissioner Ortolan dissented.
Coastal Permit
No. 65
Appeal Chairperson Wike stated that
communication had been received
from Connie Lufkin stating
opposition to the appeal
Senior Planner Fuz presented the
Staff Report and noted that this is
an appeal to overturn the Hearing
Officer's approval of a Coastal
Permit for shoreline improvements
at the base of the toe berm in
Portuguese Bend.
Mr. Fuz added that the Commission's role is to review the appeal
and determine whether the Hearing Officer's decisions- should be upheld.
Staff's recommendation is that the Commission should r6a-ffirm, the
Hearing Officer's decision to approve a coastal permit
authorizing installation of gabions along approximately 800 feet
of shoreline east of Inspiration Point. Mr. Fuz reviewed the
findings made by the Hearing Officer and stated that Staff
believes that the project conforms to the findings required for
approval of a coastal permit.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Gar Goodson,' 1709 Via Zurita, Palos Verdes Estates, stated that
he continuesto appeal the decision to approve the coastal
permit because the statements that the project is in conformance
with the Coastal Specific Plan and General Plan are inaccurate.
He stated that an E.I.R. has not been done on this project. He
reported that there are cracks along the bluff which makes this a
very dangerous situation to the workmen constructing this
project. Mr. Goodson also noted that there was not enough expert
input prior to conducting the project.
Mr. Benard stated that the project was reviewed and approved in
accordance with Development Code requirements. The project was
properly investigated and properly designed and that outside
agencies were consulted. Mr. Benard also stated that notice was
provided which allowed sufficient time for anyone to protest the
project and that no such response was received. Mr. Benard
stated that Mr. Goodson's statements were incorrect.
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Lois Knight Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, informed the Commission
that Mr. Goodson is an author of various books on environmental
subjects and expressed her disatisfaction with the gabions. She
also reported on the amount of movement in this area produced by
the bulldozers, and stated that she was horrified by Staff's
actions.
Commissioner Ortolano, responded to Ms. Larue's comments by
noting that her statements were unfounded.
Kay Bara, #1 Peppertree Drive, stated that she was not aware of
this project prior to its inception and expressed her concern
relative to the movement in this area produced by the
construction. Ms. Bara recommended that the appeal be granted.
Muriel S. Titzler, 3 Ginger Root Lane, stated that anything that
can be done to stabilize the Portuguese Bend area is necessary.
Ms. Titzler recommended that the appeal be denied.
Warren Sweetnam, 7 Top Rail Lane, President, Council of
Homeowners' Association, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that the
Council supports the actions that the Redevelopment Agency has
taken and feels that the appeal should be denied.
Commissioner McNulty inquired if this was the concensus of the
members. Mr. Sweetnam responded that there was a vote taken at
the last meeting supporting the City's action.
John McCarthy, 105 Spindrift Drive, representing the Portuguese
Bend Club Homeowners' Association, and the Klondike Canyon
Abatement District stated that both bodies believe that the
appeal should be denied and are in favor of the project. Mr.
McCarthy stated that as far as Klondike is concerned they know
that any movement that could possibly take place there is
basically caused by what happens in the Portuguese Bend slide
area and any work that is done at the toe of the slide will help
abate that movement and is helpful to marine life.
In response to Commissioner Ortolano's question on the existence
of the cracks in question, Mr. McCarthy stated that these cracks
have always been there and should not be attributed to the
bulldozers being used in the construction.
Richard Bara, #1 Peppetree Drive, stated that he was uncertain of
his position and inquired what the length of the completed
sections of the gabions is at this time and what the total
projected length of the project will be when completed.
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Assistant Director of Public Works Kevin Smith responded that at
this point 750 feet of gabions have been installed, and that 800
feet are expected at the end of the project.
Commissioner Ortolano inquired what the emergency was in
connection with this project. Mr. Smith stated that the emergency
situation was the erosion created by early season storms. Mr.
Smith also stated that this was only designed to be a temporary
measure until the Corps of Engineers is finished with the report
that will allow the City to proceed with a more permanent
solution.
Lawrence Horan, 28 Narcissa Drive, supported the City's action
and recommended denial of the appeal.
Alfred Sattler, 2235 West 25th Street, San Pedro, representing
the Sierra Club, Palos Verdes -South Bay Group, stated that this
should be a lesson for the City in following appropriate process.
Mr. Sattler noted the lack of notice of this project.
Commissioner Ortolano stated that the record indicates legal
notices required were sent out.
Gale Lovrich, 104 Spindrift Drive, expressed her support for the
gabions and noted that the bulldozers have not disturbed the
marine life.
William R. Griffin, 5 Ginger Root Lane, representing the
Portuguese Bend Community Association, expressed the Board's
support for the gabions' construction and requested denial of the
appeal. Speaking for himself, Mr. Griffin stated he considers
himself an environmentalist and in that aspect also concurs with
the City's actions.
Chairperson Wike closed the public hearing.
In their summary, the Commissioners concluded that sufficient
evidence exists to support the findings necessary to approve the
coastal permit.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to deny the appeal. Passed unanimously.
A recess was taken from 9:40 P.M. until 9:55 P.M.
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Site Plan Review No. 4734
5014 Silver Arrow
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Associate Planner Laurie
Brigham presented the Staff
Report. Ms. Brigham noted
that if the satellite dish
were to be relocated and
painted to a dark brown or
black, the application would
satisfy the requirements of
Section 17.41.170.
Commissioners Von Hagen and Ortolano commended Ms. Brigham on her
presentation.
Chairperson Wike invited interested parties to speak to the item.
Mr. R.D. Wolf, 5014 Silver Arrow, stated he has spent a great
deal of time and money in conducting surveys requested of him by
the City and does not wish to spend any additional monies or time
until a written request by the technician is submitted to him
requesting him to move the dish.
Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Connolly to continue the item until March 14, 1989,
to allow the technical expert to evaluate the alternative
location in writing and to state a definition of degradation.
Passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Grading No. 1203
21205 Oceanridge Drive
Assistant Planner Bonnie Olson
submitted the Staff Report.
Ms. Olson noted that this
project is a request for an
after the fact approval for
unauthorized grading in an
extreme slope.
Ms. Olson noted that Staff recommended denial of the project in
prohibiting any retaining walls that have a retention of more
than 3 feet in height to be placed in an extreme slope.
Chairperson Wike invited interested parties to speak to the item.
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Mr. David Finkel, 29205 Oceanridge Drive, stated that he did not
realize that a permit was necessary for the action he has taken,
otherwise he would have obtained one. His goal is to provide a
confortable living area for his growing family.
A motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to approve Staff's recommendation to deny
the project and prohibit the retaining walls of greater than
three feet or more. Passed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly adjourned
at 10:58 P.M. to February 28,
6:30 P.M., Hesse Park
Community Room, 29301
Hawthorne Boulevard.