PC MINS 19890131PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 31, 1989
MINUTES ✓
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 by Chairperson ike at
Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Connolly, Von Hagen, Wike, Ortolano, McNulty
Also Present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Senior Planner Greg Fuz and Assistant Planner Marcia
Smith.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Wike announced that she was in possession of a news
clipping regarding a Supreme Court case involving environmental
issues.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of November 30, 1988
Resolution No. 89
The minutes were accepted
as presented.
There was no discussion on
this item.
Motion was made by Commissioner Connolly and seconded by
Commissioner McNulty to approve the Consent Calendar as
presented. Notion unanimously passed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Variance No. 230
6661 Crest Road
Assistant Planner Marcia
Smith presented the Staff
Report and presented a
brief description of the
project's background. She
said the project complies
with Code setback, height
and open space
requirements, and would
not impair any primary
views from adjacent
properties.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing. There being no one
to speak to this item, the public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner McNulty to approve the project with conditions.
Motion unanimously passed.
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E.I.R. No. 27
C.U.P. No. 131
Variance No. 182
Crestridge/Crenshaw
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The Staff Report on this
item was waived at this
time since Mr. Benard was
at the City Council
meeting and not present
for this portion of the
meeting
Edward Novak, Director of Development for the Marriott
Corporation, addressed the issues that were raised at the
Planning Commission meeting on January 24.
With respect to the architectural design, Mr. Novak said that the
current design is the result of many considerations and
alternatives, and is one which the Marriott felt represents their
good faith effort to respond to the concerns of the Commission
and the community. He added that, from an architectural
standpoint, a less desirable structure would be created, and
security and operational problems would be created if the
structure were to be broken into many small buildings. Mr. Novak
also said that the health center relates closely with the
community center and these two facilities need to work very
integrally, therefore, relocating the health center would not be
a viable alternative. The community center is located in an
optimum location for the convenience of the residents and
staff.
Regarding grading, Mr. Novak said the Marriott has reduced the
amount of export by approximately 20%, which has resulted in a
substantial improvement to the views. They would be willing to
further reduce the amount of export by increasing the pad height
if given that direction from the Commission. Mr. Novak stated
that the Marriott's primary concern was safety, and they also
want to be completely cooperative with respect to transporting
soil from the site.
Mr. Novak noted that he has submitted the most economically
feasible density for the project. Decreasing the density
further, he explained, would require the Marriott to increase the
monthly fees by more than $200. It was also his opinion that the
290 parking spaces were more than adequate and were consistent
with the Canterbury's experience.
Mr. Novak said a strong effort was made to lessen the concerns of
the community for a project that is needed in the community, and
said he has reviewed C.U.P. 131 and was in agreement with the
conditions. In response to Commissioner Connolly's question, Mr.
Novak said that the cupolas would serve as decorative
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architectural functions only, and he clarified that the
requirement for garages did not call for individual garage units.
Commissioner Ortolano stated that it was unclear exactly what the
Commission was approving relative to the health center, and was
concerned that giving general approval coulA permit future
increases in operational intensity. Regarding export of soil and
grading, Commissioner Ortolano said she was in favor of taking
measures to decrease the amount of grading that would be required
on the property, and asked what measures could be taken to reduce
those portions of the building that extend 36 feet high rather
than 30 feet. She requested that the Marriott define exactly
what the health care facility is and intends to accomplish so
appropriate language may be created in the Resolution.
In clarifying the function and operation of the health center,
Mr. Novak explained that between 1.2 and 1.4 residents per unit
is pro3ected. This translates to approximately 350 residents at
maximum occupancy. Forty of the beds in the health center would
be designated for assisted living care for residents who are
incapable of living independently but do not need medically
related nursing care. The other 60 beds would be licensed to
provide skilled nursing care, which would require a certain
nurse/patient ratio, but does not relate to the same level of
care as in an acute care hospital. In terms of support services,
occupational therapy, physical therapy and examination rooms
would be provided. Mr. Novak said that even though there are
places on the site where three stories would exist, the roofline
is consistently similar. It was felt that this was the best
alternative structurally, and would not impose any view
impairment. Mr. Novak also said it was felt that fences were not
needed on the property.
In response to Chairperson Wike's question about marketing
strategies, Mr. Novak stated that a pre -marketing program will be
instituted for this project and a priority list will be
developed.
Chairperson Wike opened the public hearing.
Daniel Blatt, 29225 Stonecrest, reported that he was unable to
get an advance copy of the Staff Recommendation, and said the EIR
raises a number of questions, specifically with regard to various
traffic intersections, noise, view obstruction, air pollution and
road damage.
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Commissioner McNulty pointed out to Mr. Blatt that the EIR was
approved at the January 24, 1989 Planning Commission meeting, and
the current meeting is to hear testimony on the CUP, Variance
application and grading application.
Abner Rasumoff, 160 Aspen Way, representing the Terraces
Homeowners Association, was concerned about the amount of grading
that would be required and the amount of dirt that would need to
be removed.
Mr. Novak clarified that a 20% reduction in the grading was
achieved in the redesign of the project by raising the pad
elevation on the westerly side to more closely follow the
existing elevation from west to east and by moving some fill to
the eastern side of the project site.
Warren Schwarzmann, 4 Aurora Drive, representing the City Council
of Rolling Hills Estates, noted that a number of letters have
been written to the City of Rolling Hills Estates regarding the
Marriott project, specifically the density of the property and
the amount of soil that will need to be removed. Mr. Schwarzmann
encouraged further reduction in the amount of grading and asked
the Commission to carefully review all aspects of the project, He
also requested that conditions be imposed on the developer to
control the routing of truck traffic, street sweeping, types of
trucks, and suggested that the developer be bonded to repair any
damage that is created in the construction process.
Mr. Fuz noted that all the items covered by Mr. Schwarzmann have
been addressed in the Conditions of Approval with the exception
of the double load trucks.
John Arand, 5731 Mistridge Drive, presented a letter to the
Commission from his wife, Pat Arand, regarding her concerns about
the noise effects of the project. Mr. Arand said the Marriott
has been inflexible in making changes to the site plan. He
requested that no variances be granted with regard to parking,
asked about the mechanisms for controlling the height of trees
once they reach maturity, and suggested that the Commission limit
the number of residents as well as the number of units in the
project.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, representing the PVP Horsemans
Association, commented on the January 27 Staff Report regarding
the recommendation to dedicate the trail easement.
(Director of Environmental Services Benard arrived).
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Representing herself, Sunshine questioned the possibility of
overflow of staff parking at the Marriott facility, and
questioned items in the EIR with regard to fencing and trails.
Sunshine noted that the mitigating measures in the EIR do not
address bicycle access in the Rancho Palos Verdes portion of
Indian Peak Road. She also recommended that the Marriott fill in
the eastern portion of the lot in order to leave additional space
as a buffer zone for the Congregation Ner Tamid. Regarding
hauling and the export of soil, Sunshine questioned the
description of the grading criteria in the EIR, and noted that
the project would have a tremendous impact on the neighboring
cities because there are no alternatives to hauling the dirt
other than Palos Verdes Drive North, Crenshaw Boulevard or
Pacific Coast Highway.
Michael Riccio, 29356 Quailwood Drive, representing the Mesa
Palos Verdes Homeowners Association, suggested that the
Commission restrict the number of beds in the facility, and
recommended reducing the number of upper level units and nursing
care units in order to reduce the grading that would be
required. Mr. Riccio said the noise impact on neighboring
properties has been ignored in the EIR, and said he did not favor
horses sharing bicycle and pedestrian trails. He urged the
Commission to consider approval of a development that is
appropriate for the area.
Chairperson Wike closed the public hearing.
Director of Enviromental Services Benard then presented the Staff
Report, and summarized the issues that are being reviewed,
namely, the Conditional Use Permit, Variance Application and
Grading Application. He noted that the pertinent discussion in
the Staff analysis revolves around the issues of use, which is
the primary concern of the CUP, although density and parking are
other issues that have been raised by the public. Mr. Benard
said that the Staff position is that the site is unique, that the
applicant is working with the topography, and the building does
not create a view impairment. The issue of grading is one where
there are still a number of issues that need to be resolved by
the Commission. He added that the applicant has attempted to
limit disruption of the existing views and to minimize the
inconveniences caused during construction. The key issue that
still remains is how much earth will be removed to allow for
aesthetics and view issues. However, the number of yards to be
graded has been reduced from 250,000 cubic yards to 162,000 cubic
yards, which would correspondingly reduce the truck trips. Mr.
Benard said the Commission needed to make a determination on the
number of units and pad elevation, and stressed that any
remaining negative impacts will be mitigated as much as possible.
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A recess was taken from 9:37 p.m. until 9:50 p.m.
Commissioner Ortolano questioned Mr. Benard regarding concerns
that were raised by neighboring residents and asked whether the
concerns could be investigated and/or implemented. Specifically,
she asked for clarification on the types of trucks that will be
used for hauling, stated that this is not specified in the
Conditions, and requested information on the procedure when a
developer has been requested to post a bond for repairs and/or
spillage. Regarding the scope of the assisted living area,
Commissioner Ortolano inquired if the skilled nursing facility
will be licensed under State law, and whether the facility can be
conditioned so it cannot be turned into an acute care hospital,
and the community center cannot be open to the public.
Director of Environmental Services Benard explained the reasons
for the changes in easement conditions and said that
consideration will be given to adding to the conditions the types
of trucks, and language to assure that the health care facility
will be used in the manner presented by the Marriott, and the
number of beds for each type of use will be specified.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that the parking statistics are not
clear and requested that space for overflow parking be
investigated. He requested a standard landscape covenent, and
that safety be used as the main consideration in the type of
trucks to be used for hauling. He also requested putting a
restriction on the hours of hauling.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen that, due to the lateness of the hour, the
Commission should hear Item VIA on the agenda at another time.
Motion unanimously passed.
Director of Environmental Services Benard noted that this .item
will be heard by the Commission at 6:30 p.m. on February 28,
1989. He added that this item will be renoticed, and requested
that all those who submitted requests to speak send their
suggestions prior to February 28, in order to give Staff an
opportunity to respond before the meeting date.
The Commission then reviewed Exhibit B, which contained the
Statement of Overriding Considerations.
Regarding on-site shuttle service, Director of Environmental
Services Benard explained that a van, provided by the Marriott,
would allow the residents to visit local areas without using
.individual vehicles.
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Discussion followed regarding the hours that hauling and grading
would actually start and end. Commissioner McNulty was concerned
that trucks would not remain parked overnight at the site. It
was agreed that the trucks would start queueing at the site no
earlier than 8:00 a.m., leaving the site at approximately 8:45
a.m., and no trucks would leave the site later than 5:00 p.m.
Director of Environmental Services Benard clarified the language
on Page 4, Condition 7. Regarding Traffic and Circulation on
Page 4, Mr. Benard said that language will be prepared to include
truck safety, indoctrination of drivers, route designations and a
truck inspection program. Regarding Page 6, Item 3, Mr. Benard
said this issue was addressed in the Marriott's revised plans.
Regarding Page 7, Security, Chairperson Wike requested
clarification to include that the applicant provide adequate on-
site trained security personnel at minimum hours 5:00 p.m. to
7:00 a.m.
Nothing was added or changed under Geotechnical, Drainage,
Biological, Traffic, Air Quality, Noise, Visual Resources, Water
Services, Sanitary Services, Fire, Police, Archeology.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to approve Resolution No. 89- as amended
and as indicated, including the Statement of Overriding
Consideration. Motion passed 4 to 1. Chairperson Wike
dissented.
The discussion then focused on Resolution No. 89- -
Director of Environmental Services Benard said language will be
added which indicates that the western portion of the site will
be raised up to three feet six inches (3'6").
Motion was made by Commissioner Ortolano and seconded by
Chairperson Wike to delete the towers from the building plans.
Mr. Benard clarified that the towers are considered to be
architectural features.
Motion failed 1 to 4. Commissioners Ortolano, McNulty, Von Hagen
and Connolly dissented.
Mr. Benard also indicated where more restrictive language will be
added to Condition 2.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Connolly to approve the 250 independent living units
and the 100 bed health care facility.
In discussing the motion, Commissioner McNulty addressed the
number of units in relation to the demographics of the community
and the service that would be provided to the community.
Chairperson Wike noted that density is a crucial aspect in the
project, and by reducing the density, many other impacts would be
reduced, such as traffic circulation, noise, demands on water,
sewer, police and fire services. She felt that the project is
viable, but that it should be reduced in size.
Commissioners Von Hagen and Connolly agreed that the Marriott
project was a necessary one in the community, and that the size
was adequate as proposed.
Commissioner Ortolano acknowledged that negative environmental
impacts would exist which could not be entirely eliminated, but
she also agreed that this would be a socially desirable
institution.
Motion passed 4 to 1. Chairperson Wike dissented.
Commissioner McNulty suggested that 10% of the units be
identified as affordable units.
After discussion, the suggestion was withdrawn.
A straw vote was taken, and a consensus was reached to place a
limit of 450 occupants on the total number of residents both in
the health care center and in the independent living units.
John Nicholson, attorney, representing the Marriott, addressed
the issue of discrimination based on numerical limitation, and
whether some constitutional rights are being violated by
specifying the number of residents.
Director of Environmental Services Benard then recommended
modi.ficaton of the language in Section 6, Item 5 to eliminate the
word "one" and the addition of "extensions of up to one year may
be granted by the Planning Commission."
There was agreement that nothing would be changed regarding
Archeology, Sewer, Drainage, and Water.
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Regarding Streets, Commissioner Ortolano asked whether the
developer could be required to bond for damage on routes outside
the City limits.
Commissioner Von Hagen suggested selecting a bond amount with a
surplus to offset the costs in the event another city's roadways
were to be damaged.
Commissioner Ortolano suggested that the Commission, in
consultation with the City Attorney, prepare draft language on
how to accomplish protection for adjoining jurisdictions.
Commissioner Connolly said he was satisfied with Paragraph 6 as
it was written. Director of Environmental Services Benard
suggested changing Condition 6 to state: ". . . pay for a
permanent analysis of the streets to be used as the designated
haul routes prior to starting construction."
With regard to Condition 10, Page 6, Chairperson Wike proposed a
change to read: ". . . foundation shall be set back. . ."
Regarding easements, Commissioner Ortolano stated her concerns
and suggested a redraft of the conditions.
Mr. Benard explained why a recommendation for a bicycle trail as
suggested by Sunshine was not recommended by Staff.
There was consensus by the Commission that the bicycle lane on
Crestridge should not interfere with vehicular traffic and with
parking.
Regarding Project Design, modification was made to add the
following to Item 1: ". . . not to exceed the ridgeline of the
building at any time."
Commissioner Ortolano recommended that parking at the site be
reviewed one year after issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy
in order to determine adequacy.
Regarding Condition No. 12, Chairperson Wike suggested changing
the hours to 7:00 p.m. until 7:00 a.m., unless the Leafblower
Ordinance took precedence.
Regading fencing, Commissioner Von Hagen suggested a condition
that there should be no walls, fences or hedges unless approved
with a CUP revision.
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Director of Environmental Services Benard explained the
transition of the wall on the west end near the Temple, and
described the intent of the wall.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to approve Resolution No. 89-5 as proposed
and as amended. motion passed 4 to 1. Chairperson Wike
dissented.
Appeal rights were noted.
Mr. Benard explained the procedural aspects with regard to
timing.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly
adjourned at 12: 35 a.m.
to February 14, 1989, 7:30
p.m. at Hesse Park
Community Building, 29301
Hawthorne Boulevard.