PC MINS 19881122MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING /
NOVEMBER 22, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 6:32 p.m. by Chairman Connolly
at Hesse Park community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Von Hagen, Connolly, McNulty, Wike
ABSENT: Ortolano
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Benard,
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru, Associate Planner Marcia Smith,
and Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham.
COMMUNICATIONS Chairman Connolly reported that he
had received a communication
regarding Environmental Assessment
No. 552, which would be addressed
at the time this agenda item was
heard.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of October 25
1988
Amend Paragraph Seven on Page One
to read: ft. . . Chairman Connolly
and Commissioner Wike acre
personally acquainted with ,john
Bennett at 3 Eastfield."
Amend the Motion on Page Three to
read ". . . Commissioner Wike
dissented."
Conditional Use Permit Motion was made by Commissioner
No. 132 Extension Wike and seconded by Commissioner
6245 Via Canada Von Hagen to remove this item from
the Consent Calendar and hear it
after the New Business items were
heard. Motion unanimously passed.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to adopt the Consent Calendar as amended.
Motion unanimously passed.
NEW BUSINESS
Conditional Use Permit Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
No. 59. Rev. "A" presented the staff Report and
Site Plan Review No. 4708 reported that the applicant pro -
Tract 37818 poses to construct a 225 square
foot addition in an area that is
currently part of the rear yard
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terrace. The addition would reduce the available private open
space by 280, and would also increase the living area of the
house.
Ms. Petru said that although the proposed addition respects the
minimum five foot setback from the rear property line and would
not be visible from the street, Staff feels that a further
reduction in the private outdoor living space would have a
negative cumulative impact on the entire development. If other
properties apply to enclose portions of their available private
open space, there are no other areas available on the lots to
develop new outdoor living areas,; and there is no area available
in the common lot to develop recreation amenities to
counterbalance the loss of private outdoor open space.
Peter Shen, 3422 Glennwood Circle, Torrance, the applicant,
noted that the back patio of the project is already ;encircled
with wa11s and not covered, that the architectural plans were
approved two years ago, and that the enclosure would fully satisfy the
intent of the law. --`
Director of Environmental Services Benard clarified the
Development Code section relative to the designation of open
mace. and_�aid that the units in the tract were built to a
reduced standard for open space without proper review and approval
from the City. Mr. Benard requested that the Commission provide Staff'
with a minimum threshold of acceptability for enclosing private open
spaces if the Commission was inclined to approve the request.
Chairman Connolly said he was in favor of establishing a
threshold of 225 square feet of open space for any future structures
in this tract.
Motion was made by Commissioner Wike to deny the project.
Motion failed for lack of a second.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to approve the project, but prohibit any
further reduction in the private outdoor open space on the lot.
Motion passed 3 to 1. Commissioner Wike dissented.
Appeal rights were noted.
Site Plan Review No. Director of Environmental Services
4758 Benard reported that the applicant
28428 Cedarbluff has been requested to but has not
submitted a complete application
for the existing satellite dish
antenna on the subject property.
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Motion was made by commissioner McNult
Commissioner Von Hagen to continue the
13, 1988. Motion unanimously passed.
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and seconded by
application to December
Site Plan Review No. Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
4734 distributed a letter of complaint
5014 Silver Arrow from a neighbor at 27031 Diamond
Head Lane regarding view
obstruction- caused by the
satellite dish antenna and
presented the Staff Report.
Ms Brigham reported that the property owner is requesting
approval of an existing satellite dish antenna on the property.
The dish is ten feet in diameter, is ground mounted and attached
to the side of the house for added support, and is approximately
19 feet above the grade level of the building pad.
Ms. Brigham also reported that Staff's primary concern was the
extreme visibility of the satellite dish from.-- public streets
and sidewalks and adjacent private properties on Silver Arrow and
Diamond Head. She said it maybe possible to relocate or lower the
dishsoi—twfl:]�-15-escreened while—allowingthe applicant to receive
reasonable reception. Ms. Brigham added that the applicant's
evidence presented at this time does not substantiate allowingthe
"19—foot satellite ciisri —antenna --o—n-t-he —property.
R.D. Wolf, 5014 silver Arrow, the applicant, indicated that the
satellite antenna dish did not represent a view obstruction from
the public right of way.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Wike to continue this app,ication to December 13,
1988, directing the property owner to obtain a detailed analysis
from a satellite antenna technician determining if any
alternative locations or heights exist in the rear yard or the
middle rear roof. motion unanimously passed.
CONSENT CALENDAR The Staff report was waived.
Conditional Use Permit Sherry Unmack, 4004 Miraleste
No. 131. Extension Drive, reported that she has
6245 via Canada contacted the School District on
numerous occasions regarding the
appearance and condition of the
Miraleste Elementary School. She
said that this location is,hettvily
used by the neighborhood, and requested
the establishment of a regular maintenance
schedule.
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Wendy Harper, 2719 Coral Ridge Road, noted the i
location to the children in the community, that
in_ the _area, and said it is an embarrassment_ and a
neighborhood because 61 £�la6 of—masntenance.
rtance of this
is the only park
disgrace to the
Cheryl Caughlin, 6412 Via Canada, representing the Miraleste
Homes Association, also complained about the appearance of the
school, and reported on her efforts to elicit action from the
school Board. She also addressed the bus that was parked on the
property, and concluded that the community does not benefit from
the school.
Commissioner Wike requested that Staff investigate the situation,
and not approve this item under the circumstances that have been
outlined. She also requested that Staff obtain an opinion from
the City Attorney as to whether a certain amount of the funds
obtained from the property has to be set aside to complete the
maintenance repairs.
Chairman Connolly requested that the School District be allowed
to respond to the issues raised, and requested that the City
Council be informed of the comments of the speakers.
David Capelouto, Assistant Superintendent/Business with the Palos
Verdes Peninsula Unified School District, conceded that the
Mireleste Elementary school site is in need of considerable
repair, and said that a marginal amount of funds are raised from
rent of the facilities. Mr. Capelouto discussed the maintenance
problems the School District has experienced with the site, and
said that if a decision is made not to extend the Conditional Use
Permit, the tenants at the location will be so advised.
Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner McNulty to approve the extension of the Conditional
Use Permit for a six month period with the understanding that the
property will be maintained to the satisfaction of the Director
of Environmental Services. The 48 passenger bus is to be stored
in a proper location. The Staff will police the property to see
that the appropriate conditions are met. Motion unanimously
passed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Conditional Use Permit
No. 131
Tentative Parcel Map
No. 19363
Environmental Assessment
NO. 11
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the Staff Report and
reported that this item was last
considered at the November 9, 1988
Commission meeting and the public
hearing was continued to November
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Marriott Corporation
Crestridge/Crenshaw
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22, 1988. The landowner has
withdrawn Tentative Parcel Map No.
19363 for a three lot subdivision
on the property, leaving the
C.U.P., Variance and Grading
applications for the retirement
facility on the entire 34 acre
parcel. The project applications
were deemed to be complete on
December 10, 1987, therefore, the
final action date for the
Commission would have been November
22, 1988, however, the applicant
has granted the City a 52 day
extension to January 31, 1989.
Ms. Petru said the City Attorney has reviewed the Final
Environmental Impact Report, Volumes I and III, and has
determined that this document must be revised. The document will
not be substantially changed, but will be rearranged and/or
expanded and a supplemental index added to the table of contents.
She reviewed the suggested project schedule, and explained that
the extension granted by the applicant cannot be further
extended.
Ms. Petru also reviewed a list of primary issues that have been
identified from the public hearings on the project, and requested
that the Commission detail those aspects of the project they
would like to see modified with regard to height, mass and
siting, grading, trails and density.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Michael J. RiCCio, 29356 Quailwood, presented issues he disagreed
with that were contained in the EIR and the Staff Report.
Edward Novak, Marriott Corporation, one Marriott Drive,
Washington D.C., reported that the extension will allow the
Marriott time to evaluate possible design alternatives without
increasing the amount of excavation required. The design
alternatives will be reviewed with Staff and with the Homeowners
Association during the month of December. Mr. Novak also said
that the Marriott will diligently pursue all the recommendations
made by the commission, and will be responsive to the impacts
that exist.
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Daniel Blatt, 29255 Stonecrest Road, noted that the community's
concerns and guidelines have not been responded to by the
Marriott and by the EIR, and requested that the Marriott provide
reasonable evidence of economic viability. Mr. Blatt reiterated
that the staff erred in calculating the land swell factor and
resulting hazards.
sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, clarified her remarks made to the City
council regarding Staff's support of the equestrian trail, and
reminded the Commission that if the equestrian traffic that
terminates on Crestridge is not accommodated, it will continue on
the sidewalks.
Anthony Segreto, 5677 Mistridge Drive, complimented Commissioner
McNulty for his direction to staff at the November 9 Commission
meeting, and concluded that staff has not addressed many of the
issues that have been raised.
With regard to giving direction to staff, Commissioner McNulty
advised the Staff to use diligence to ensure that the building
height is kept within the 16 foot height envelope.
Commissioner Wike was in favor of more open space between the buildings,
and favored mitigation in order to protect views.
Commissioner Von Hagen said he did not approve exposing the
residents to the outside elements, and requested keeping the
building height within the 16 foot level.
Regarding mass and siting, commissioner McNulty was in favor of
varying the roof line and roof pitch so it would be broken with
perpendicular lines.
Chairman Connolly favored usage of clear, t_ranspare_nt materials for
building linkages if possible.
The Commission was in accord that the structure should not be a
single tower development.
"With respect to grading, Director of Environmental Services Benard
explained that the possibility may exist to use undeveloped portions
of the site as a potential deposit areas to reduce the export of
excavated material.
The Commission favored additional grading in order to reduce building
heights and preservation of views.
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Regarding trails, Director of Environmental Services Benard said
the City Council will shortly discuss the:_concept_of trail -connections
through the city of Rancho Palos Verdes.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that equestrian traffic on the
streets of Rancho Palos Verdes as legal and that -linkage is
requested by the City of Rolling Halls Estates because a bridle
trail on the streets is considered to be important. He suggested
that the Staff consider recommending an equestrian crossing at
the eastern end of the pro)ect�and,ra-trail down the middle of Crest'ridge
or along the'south side of the street. '
Commissioner Wike did not agree with bringing horses into this
area.
Commissioner McNulty agreed that the equestrian trail would be an
important aspect if the City Council deems at necessary.
Commissioner McNulty also stated he would have no problem with
the density of the project if the applicant could rearrange the
design.
Commissioner Wike noted her request -.-that the EIR be revised to
address the impact if the projected occupancy level is not
attained.
Mr. Novak of the Marriott Corporation responded to Commissioner
Wike's inquiry on the results of the market survey, and noted
that 3000 households were surveyed but much of the information
obtained is proprietary.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to continue this item to January 10, 1989
and proceed with the project schedule relative to recirculating
the Draft Environmental Impact Report. Motion unanimously
passed.
Variance No. 217
Grading No. 1192
6343 Villa Rosa
Assistant Planner Marcia Smith
presented the Staff Report and
reported that the applicant is
requesting approval of the
following proposals; a reduction
an the front setback to allow a
second story addition to an
existing single story residence
currently encroaching 7 feet 6
inches in the front yard setback; a
six foot high grapestake fence an
the front setback; an existing
fence exceeding the 42 inch high
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maximum height limitation along the
north and south property_: lines extendinq
into the front setback area; a
garage addition encroaching four
feet into an extreme slope; and a
five foot retaining wall on an
extreme slope within three feet of
the east and south property lines.
Ms. Smith said that the property is unique and is shaped with the
majority of the usable yard space between the house and the front
property line. The shape of the lot, together with the
orientation- of the house and the existence of extreme slopes at
the rear of the property, make it difficult for the applicant to
comply with the City's development regulations without suffering
a loss of use of the site in comparison with the use allowed to
surrounding property owners. In addition, the existing chain
link fence is placed on the property while replacing sewer lines.
The applicant has stated that the fence is temporary and will
removed upon completion of the construction.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Ellen Osborne, 6343 villa Rosa, noted that she has tried to work
within the City codes, and the purpose of the project is to
maximize space and minimize expense while remaining in
aesthetica) conformance. Ms. Osborne also addressed placement of
the fence on the west slope, and stated that views would be lost
if the fence were placed as recommended by Staff. She said that
construction on the extreme slope was requested to allow for
additional square footage. She summarized that space is the
primary concern, and if the Staff recommendation is adopted, over
1000 square feet of usable space would be lost.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Director of Environmental Services Benard summarized the Staff's
concerns with regard to the property, e.g., placement of a five
foot wall which would represent an unreasonable and unnecessary
disruption to the slope, not necessary to provide access to the garage.,
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner von Hagen to continue this item to December 13, 1988
and direct staff and the applicant to make an attempt to
accommodate the expanded rear yard area. Motion unanimously
passed.
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Tentative Tract Map
No. 19847
Grading No. 1180
Environmental Assessment No. 560
4105 Palos Verdes Drive East
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Com=missioner Von Hagen to continue this item to December 13,
1988. Motion unanimously passed.
Conditional Use Permit The Staff Report on this item was
No. 140 waived.
E.A. No. 557
Variance No. 212
Encroachment Permit No. 13
550 Silver spur
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Ron Florance, 1025 Via Mirabel, representing Intermark, reported
that he was disappointed in the Staff Report because Staff does
not approve of the loggia abutting silver spur and believes it
would visually overwhelm the street-scape.
Robert Earl, 8500 Melrose Avenue, Los Angeles, architect, noted
that the project's mediterranean theme conforms to the community,
and discussed the building's placement and design. He explained
that the projection of the loggia could be limited to less than
as shown on the plans, and requested that the Commission give
serious consideration to this aspect of the building facade.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Director of Environmental Services Benard explained that the
Building Code limits the useable portion of the encroachment to
four feet.
Commissioner Von Hagen noted that the loggia represents an
interesting concept, and he would not rule it out if the
applicant were willing to apply for the Encroachment Permit and
the necessary indemnification could be obtained.
Commissioner Wike did not support the project as it currently
stands, particularly because of the 56 foot towers and the
Mediterranean theme and the loggia in the public right-of-way.
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Commissioner McNulty recommended that parking be restricted so as
not to allow cars to park in the front of the building. He was
in favor of approving the building design, but with restrictions.
Chairman Connolly said he was in favor of adoption of the
Negative Declaration, denial of the Encroachment Permit and
continuance of the Conditional Use Permit to allow the applicant
to redesign the front facade.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to continue this item to December 13,
1988.
Conditional Use Permit Chairman Connolly reported that
No. 138 Mr. Zell has submitted a request
Variance No. 205 to continue this item to January
E.A. No. 552 24, 1988.
31270 Palos Verdes Dr. So.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to continue this item to January 24, 1988.
Motion unanimously passed.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE (regarding non -agenda items)
There were no questions from the audience.
STAFF REPORTS
Director of Environmental Services Benard announced that a SWAPO
luncheon will be held on December 2, 1988.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly adjourned at
11:13 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., November
30, 1988 at Hesse Park Fireside
Room.