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)CEN TIES
PLA KIING COl4ISSION NEXTIMG
M MWER 9, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 5:38 p.m. by Vice Chairman
McNulty at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne
Boulevard.
PRESENT: Von Hagen, McNulty, Wike
Commissioner Ortolano arrived at 7:28 p.m.
ABSENT: Connolly
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Senior Planner Greg Fuz, Associate Planner Carolynn
Petru, and Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham.
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of October 1, 1988
Conditional Use Permit
No. 23
Revision "EE" and
Grading No. 1182
3355 Palos Vista
vice Chairman McNulty reported that
several communications had been
received relative to the Marriott
Lifecare issue, and would be
addressed at the time the agenda
items were heard.
Correct the typographical error in
the word "crime" on Page Six,
Paragraph Three.
Change last sentence on Page Nine,'
Paragraph seven to read ". . . nor
would he object to purchasing a
non -guide crank up tower."
Commissioner Wike recommended that,
because of the extent of the
changes required, instead of
approving this item with the
conditions listed, it should be
brcught back on the Consent
Calendar for final approval.
Director of Environmental services
Benard explained that once
approved, Staff would review the
revisions.
Motion was made by Commissioner and seconded by Vice Chairman
McNulty to approve the Consent Calendar as amended. Motion
passed 2-1. Comissioner bike dissented on Item B.
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Vice Chairman McNulty announced that the agenda would not follow
the order in which it was presented.
NEW BUSINESS
Code Amendment No. 29 Senior Planner Fuz presented the
Walls, Hedges, Fences Staff Report and reported that the
City Council has initiated a Develop-
ment Code Amendment in response to
recent citizen concern regarding view
obstruction caused by walls, hedges
and fences.
Mr. Fuz continued by stating that the City's development
regulations currently establish a six foot height for any wall,
hedge or fence located outside of the front or street side
setback. Any wall, hedge or fence meeting the standard may
generally be constructed without regard to view obstruction and
without prior City approval. Recent concerns, however, have
centered on a desire for stricter regulation of the height of
walls, hedges and fences on terraced or hillside view lots, to
prevent unnecessary view obstruction.
He added that Staff believes it is necessary to balance the goal
of view preservation with the right of a property owner to
enclose his/her property for the purposes of privacy, security
and maintenance. Mr. Fuz requested that the Commission review
and comment on staff's preliminary draft language for the
proposed amendment in advance of a public hearing on this matter
tentatively scheduled for November 22. He also said that input
will be obtained from. the City Attorney prior to the public
hearing, but the basic approach to the proposed Code Amendment
would need to be approved by the Commission.
Warren Sweetnan, T Top Rail Lane, President of the Rancho Palos
Verdes Council of Homeowner Associations, requested that a public
workshop on this issue be conducted prior to proceeding to public
hearing.
Elaine Notz, 32413 Searaven Drive, commented that staff's 42 inch
height recommendation will not substantially help the view
impairment problem on Searaven Drive.
Vice Chairman McNulty pointed out to Mrs. Mot-_ that CC&R_- are not
enforceable by the City unless the City was a party to them.
Commissioner tion Hagen said he would like to continue hearing
more public comments in order to determine what is appropriate on
a community wide level.
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Commissioner Wike concurred that a public workshop would be
appropriate, and requested that input from the City Attorney be
provided.
Vice Chairman McNulty also recommended holding a public workshop
as soon as possible, and said he was not in favor of imposing
legislation without hearing from both sides of the issue.
Director of Environmental services Benard announced that the
public workshop will be held on Wednesday, November 30, 1988.
Notices will be sent to all interested parties and will be
published in the newspaper.
Grading No. 1183
49 3/4 Rockinghorse
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the Staff Report and
presented some background
information on the property. She
reported that the proposed
residence complies with setback,
height and open space requirements,
but the topography and
configuration of the parcel
precludes construction of a
residence in an area with a slope
of less than 35'x.
Ms. Petru added that the applicant has located the residence in
the southwest corner of the lot closest to the point of access
and has stepped the structure with the slope to minimize grading,
however, staff is of the opinion that disturbance to the lot
could be further reduced, that grading should be limited to the
primary use of the property, and that height and number of
retaining walls, and the square footage of the proposed level
yard are excessive and should be redesigned.
John Girard, 2306 Malcolm, hest Los Angeles, architect, asked for
a revision of the Staff's recommendation to split the eight foot
wall into two 4 -foot walls because, he said, it would not be
practical and would be costly to the applicant.
Allan Peters, 32024 Pacifica Drive, the applicant, supported Mr.
Girard's statements, and requested consideration for an expanded
turnaround in the driveway and for the supporting retaining wall.
commissioner Von Hagen reported that he had visited the property
and it appears reasonable to allow a turnaround in the driveway.
He agreed with Staff's recommendation to step the 8 foot walls.
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Associate Planner Petru noted that the need for a turnaround is
not being disputed by Staff, but it was Staff's intent to break
up the eight foot wall visually, which could be accomplished by
redesigning the living area
Commissioner 'alike also agreed that the turnaround was needed as a
safety factor, but she did not agree that the eight foot retaining
wall was necessary.
notion was made by Counissioner Yon Hagen and seconded by
Comm�issioner Ortolan that the application be approved as
presented, with the revisions recommended by the architect, with
the elimination of the five foot wall proposed to provide a light
well, and that the walls will be stepped where appropriate.
Notion carried 3-1. Commissioner Mike dissented.
Appeal rights were noted by Vice Chairman Connolly.
Conditional Use Permit Director of Environmental Services
No. 101 Benard presented the Staff Report
Revision "D" and noted that the applicant
28849 South Western Av. proposes to modify the parking and
landscaping plan at the northeast
corner of a commercial retail
center on Western Avenue in order
to accommodate a truck loading area
for a proposed new tenant. The
proposal would reduce a rectangular
landscape planter of approximately
465 feet to a three foot linear
strip of approximately 180 square
feet. The remaining 285 square
feet would be striped for "No
Parking - Loading only".
Mr. Benard said that Stuff recommended denial of the application
due to the proximity of the proposed loading zone to the public
right-of-way and its intensified visual presence caused by the
elevation of the area above Western Avenue. Also, the creation
of a loading zone, unscreened or buffered from the view of the
public, would not be consistent with the development concepts of
Specific Plan ZZ.
Robert Le Koine, 11602 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, noted
that actual delivery at the store in question would take place
only one hour every five dans, and would amount to only 2.1% of
the percentage of time available for delivery as approved by the
Conditional Use Permit. He also Noted that delivery would take
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place at off peak hours, and the visual impact would be mitigated
by such items as the fountain and the colorful awnings. Mr. Le
Moine then presented the Commission with schematics showing the
impact tracks would have on the redesigned area, and said he was
also prepared to suggest a grass/concrete combination, and to re-
la..^.dscape the street parallel with the northern boundary.
Motion was made by Vice Chairman McNulty and seconded by Commissioner
Ortolano that the Staff and Mr. Le Moine work out a reasonable
compromise to this situation utilizing a grass/concrete design and
upgraded landscaping. Motion unanimously passed.
A recess was taken from 8:10 p.m. until 8:22 p.m.
Vice Chairman McNulty reminded the audience that the public
workshop for Development Code Amendment No. 29 will be held on
November 30.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Conditional Use Permit No.
138
Variance No. 205
Grading No 1101
Environmental Assessment
No. 55
31270 Palos Verdes Dr. so.
Director of Environmental Services
Benard reported that revised plans
have not been submitted by the
applicant as instructed, preventing
further evaluation of this project.
staff therefore recommended
continuance to November 22, at
which time final action on the
project must be taken by the
Commission pursuant to State law.
lotion was nage by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Ortolan to continue this item to November 22. Motion
unanimously gassed.
Variance No. 215
1-7 La Vista Verde
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the Staff Report and
noted that the existing wall came
to the City's attention in June
1988 while it was being
constructed. A stop work order was
issued on June 17, 1988.
Construction continued on the wall,
several verbal warnings and a
second stop work order was issued
on July 7, 1988. Ms. Petru added
that permitting the existing solid
wall to remain within the front
yard setback would have an
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immediate, as well as a long term, cumulative impact on
and open character of the residential neighborhood The
Development Code does not allow solid walls in the front
along street side setbacks.
Vice Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
the rural
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Jerry Sorkin, 27 La Vista Verde, the applicant, presented
exhibits showing the original plans for the house, including the
original wall. Mr. Sorkin reported that he was not advised that
the wall was not in compliance with the Code, and attributed the
entire situation to negligence on the City's behalf. He added
that he has been harrassed by the City Staff, and rebuilding the
wall would cost him additional expenses.
Commissioner Wike said she could not support the wall as it
currently stands, unless it could be mitigated.
Commissioner Vow. Hagen noted that the current wall is in clear
violation of the Code, but whether it existed previously needs to
be explained.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ortolano to adopt Staff
1tendation leo. 3, with the addition of the following
statement: •?he application fees for this variance shall be
refunded and the fee for the Minor Exception Permit shall be
waived."
Motion withdrawn by Commissioner Ortolano.
Motion was made by Commissioner dike to deny the variance but
allow the landowner to apply for a Minor Exception Permit to
Modify the wall utilizing materials which permit 90% light and
air to pass through the structure above 42 inches in height and
has overall height not exceeding six feet. The Sorkins may
appeal to the City Council for a refund of the $800 fees and
submit an application for a Minor Exception Permit within 30
days. Motion passed 3 - 1. Commissioner Ortolano dissented.
Conditional Use Permit
No. 131
Tentative Parcel Map
No. 19363
EZR No. 2?
Marriott - Crestridge/
Crenshaw
Director of Environmental
Services Benard reported that
recent communications were
received from. Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter -Day
Saints; Terraces Homeowners
Association; City of Rolling
Hills and Palos Verdes Landholding
Corporation.
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Mr. Benard also reported that the Hon Development Corporation has
withdrawn its application for a parcel map, and that Staff
recommended that the Commission continue to take public
testimony, then make a decision on denial or approval of the
project at the November 22nd meeting, unless an extension is
obtained from the applicant.
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru presented the Staff Report and
reported that this item was continued from October 25, 1988, at
which time the Commission accepted public testimony on the
adequacy of the Environmental Impact Report. Ms. Petru reviewed
the impact levels of different uses on various community
services, and reported that staff supports the density and scope
of the project as proposed, but recommends that the applicant
provide 346 parking spaces on-site, 125 of which must be enclosed
garage spaces, with overflow parking on the eastern portion of
the lot. Additionally, staff recommends pedestrian trails on the
site and retention of the bicycle trail along Indian Peak Road.
staff, she reported, does not support equestrian trails through
a the site, but would support an analysis of a loop trail isolated
to the Open Space Hazard portion of the lot (previously Parcel
3).
Ed Novak, Director of Development for the Marriott Corporation,
Marriott Drive, Washington, D.C., introduced the members of the
Marriott development team, and presented an overview of the
Marriott Corporation, with particular emphasis on the senior
lifecare services division. He also reviewed the Marriott's
financial structure and emphasized the fact that the Marriott has
never developed a project which has become a financial burden on a
city. Mr. Novak pointed out that the Marriott's concept is to
develop communities and provide services which address the
physical, social, phychological and emotional needs of the
elderly, and presented a profile of the residents who would be
attracted to the lifecare centers
Mr. Novak stated that he has compiled statistics based on site
specific research which indicate that over 78% of the respondents
were likely to move into the protect. He also presented artists
renderings of the project and discussed the site rationale and
architectural criteria.
Regarding withdrawal of the parcel map, Mr. Novak indicated that
the Marriott will work out an arrangement to purchase the entire
property.
Nice Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
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Grant Hornbeak, 25200 La Pas, Road, Layvna Hills, representing the
Hon Corporation, said he was available to answer questions, if
needed.
Michael Riccio, 29356 Quailwood Drive, President of the Mesa
Palos Verdes Homeowners Association, commented that the project
would provide a visual blight for the residents whose homes are
above it. He was concerned about safety relative to construction
traffic, and requested that open space hazard land not be
included in the density calculation.
Edward Hall, 48 Cottonwood Circle, noted that no good definition
exists for where the equestrian and pedestrian trails will be
located, and concluded that trails would add to the problem of
squatters erecting houses in the area.
Daniel Blatt, 29225 Stonecrest Road, noted that the Staff's
calculations relative to land swell are inaccurate and that the
traffic surveys are erroneous and contradictory. He said the EIR
should be rejected and the applicant should be requested to take
an extension.
John Arand, 5731 Mistridge, requested that the Commission not
certify the EIR, and discussed density calculations, parking
requirements, alteration of the topography, and overlay
dl--tri--t--.
Anthony Segreto, 5677 Mistridge Drive, presented copies of a
risk/benefit analysis related to the project, and summarized his
concerns regarding extreme slopes, geological stability,
retaining walls, traffic, drainage systems, fire safety and
economic viability. He added that the EIR is inadequate and that
the project should be rejected.
Steve Silverstone, 5805 Scotwood Drive, said he was opposed to
the equestrian trail along the Congregation Ner Tamid property
and adjacent to Crestridge.
Barbara Dye, 7035 Hartcrest Drive, representing the Trails
Committee, reviewed the Trails Committee's recommendations for
the possible linkage from the Westfield area and the City of
Polling Hills to the equestrian developments in Rolling Hills
Estates. option No. 1 presumes a multipurpose trail with access
from Parcel 3 provided along the western boundary of Parcel 1.
Option No. 2 presumes a multipurpose trail providing from Parcel
3 along the western boundary of Parcel 2. Option No. 3 presumes
a pedestrian trail providing access from Parcel 3 along the
western boundary of Parcel 1. Option No. 4 presumes a pedestrian
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trail providing access from Parcel 3 along the western boundary
of Parcel 2.
Regarding the North-South cut across, Ms. Dye reported that the
Trails Committee has proposed the following options: option No.
1 - Preserve the existing route through the Marriott site using
the western access between the synagogue and the Marriott site.
Option No. 2 - Multipurpose trail with access along the eastern
side of the easement down to Crenshaw. Option No. 3 - Same as
Option No. 1, but construct a horse trail in the center median
from mid -block crossing to Highridge. Option No 4 - Divert
existing trail through the Marriott site; create equestrian trail
in the Crestridge median to Highridge, providing barrier -free
curb cuts wherever the trail crosses a curb.
Motion was made by Commissiner von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Hike to continue the public hearing on this item to
November 22, 1988. Motion unanimously passed.
Director of Environmental Services Berard reported that the
developers do not intend to change the configuration of the
_project, and that policy memoranda will be researched in order to
determine if any density has ever been specif ied in -the institutional zone.
In discussing the EIR, Commissicrer Ortolano said she thought
that this was an inadequate document, and she rejected many of
the assumptions made by Staff She was not in favor of waiting
for the City Attorney's opinion before advising Staff to proceed
in any direction. Commissioner Ortolano complimented the Trails
Committee for their report, and noted that she was not in favor
of taking easements to preserve the right to build trails on this
particular property, but she was in support of an all-purpose
trail
Commissioner Von Hagen thought it was appropriate to give
credit to the open space hazard area. He added that the trails
network plan should be reviewed at the November 22 meeting.
Commissioner wike asked that Staff and the applicant provide a
cross section of the site elevations showing existing land
contours and building height where the building wings run
northward. She proposed that the developer come up with design
alternatives for the building in order to soften the effect of a
massive structure.
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Vice Chairman McNulty commented that the project is excessive in
size and in height as it is presently constituted. He
recommended reducing the size of the building and lowering the
height, and urged the Marriott development team to be considerate
of the community.
Director of Environmental Services Benard explained that the Trails
Committee recommendation for a limited equestrian zone on Parcel 3
will be re-evaluated in light of the withdrawal of the Tract Map. He
noted that the Staff position is to support the pedestrian trail
linkage as is appropriate, but not the equestrian trail.
A recess was taken from 11:20 p.m. until 11:32 p.m.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
Site Plan Review No. 3936
2175 Rockinghorse Road
Director of Environmental Services
Benard presented the Staff Report
and noted that on August 23, 1988,
the commission directed the
applicant to obtain an analysis
from a second satellite technician
to determine if any ground mounted
locations existed in the rear yeard
where reasonable satellite
reception could be received.
Mr. Benard also said that the technician's report identifies
locations where reasonable reception potential exists, however,
the applicant is concerned that he will be able to continue to
receive Italian programming. Placing the antenna in the
location proposed by the applicant, it must be demonstrated that
no other reasonable locations exist for alternate placement.
Mr. Benard then reviewed the Staff recommendation to deny the
application, which would permit placement of the satellite dish
antenna on the property in the rear yard of the lot in areas A,
B,,--,D,E shown on the technician's report,
Stefano Finazzo, 2175 Rockinghorse Road, stated that the Staff
analysis is incorrect, and no reasonable alternative location
would be feasible for him to continue to receive the desired
programming. It was also his opinion that no significant view
impairment existed at 2177 Rockinghorse Road, particularly with
installation of proposed fence.
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Gilbert Alberio, 2177 lockinghorse load, urged the Commission to
deny the application. Regarding the trees mentioned in the Staff
Report, Mr. Alberio said he was prepared to trim the trees if
they have been identified as creating an impediment to Mr.
Finazzo's reception. Exhibits presented by Mr. Alberio included
a map showing possible areas where the antenna could be located
on Mr. Finazzo's property.
Carmen Alberio, 2177 lockinghorse load, echoed Mr. Alberio's
opinions and reminded the Commission that Mr. Finazzo's antenna
was installed without a permit.
Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner ortolan that the application be denied and that the
ground mounted location be selected so the applicant may receive
programming of choice. Motion unanimously passed.
Appeal rights were noted.
NEW BUSINESS
Site Plan. Review No. 4717
4030 Admirable
Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
presented the Staff Report, and
noted that the property owner
requested approval of an existing
satellite dish antenna on the
property located at 4030 Admirable
Drive. The dish is ground mounted
and projects through the roof eave
and is approximately 21 feet above
grade level.
Ms. Brigham said that Staff's primary concern is the antenna's
extreme v1sibility form adjacent public streets and Sidewalks.
Several of the tall pine trees on the neighbor's property at 4031
Palos Verdes Drive South, which previously provided partial-
screening
artialscreening of the disc. from Palos Verdes Drive South, are dead and
will have to be removed. These trees are the majority of the
signal blcckage problem, and their removal may opoen a reception
area. A detailed analysis should be submJtted to detene_.._i.f
relocating or lowering the antenna so it will be screened -and still
receive reasonable reception is feasible,
Stan Boggess, 4030 Admirable Drive, addressed the Staff Report
which, he said, is based on insufficient data
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Vice Chairman McNulty recommended continuance of this item until
the Commission has had an opportunity to analyze reports which
address satellites antenna dishes and locations and make a
further recommendation.
Director of Environmental Services Benard noted that Staff
recommended continuance of this item to December 13, 1988.
George Caanady, 4037 Admirable Drive, who lives across the street
from the applicant, stated that trimming of the trees has
increase3the visibility of the antenna from his perspective, and
he suggested its relocation to the rear yard below the roof line.
Steve Perestam, 4433 Exultant Drive, whose residence is behind
the applicant's also said that the dying trees;�Ve made
antenna more visible.
Vice Chairman McNulty stated that insufficient evidence exists to
determine whether the antenna is placed in the most appropriate
location, and he referred to the Code which recommends no roof
mounted antennas unless no other location exists where reception
can be obtained.
Motion was made by Commissioner Wike and seconded by Commissioner
Vn Hagen to continue this application to December 13, 1988.
Motion unanimously carried.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE There were no questions from the
audience regarding non agenda
items.
STAFF REPORTS Director of Environmental Service
Berard reported that Assistant
Planner, ,lack Roberts, left the
City's employment and Associate
Planner carclynn Wzlker will be
leaving in December.
COMMISSION REPORTS
CommiSSioner tion Hagen reported
that he attended the Seaview
Homeowners Association Picnic and
was invited to attend the
association's meeting on November
16.
Commissiner Wike reported that she
will attend the SCAG meeting on
November 10, 1988.
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ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly adjourned at
12.32 a.m. to November 22, 1988,
6.30 p.m. at Hesse Park Community
Building, 29301 Hawthorne
Boulevard.