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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 13, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 6:38 p.m. by Chairman Connolly
at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Von Hagen, Connolly, McNulty
(Commissioner Wike arrived at 6:42 p.m.)
ABSENT: Ortolano
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Benard,
Associate Planner Ben Ortega, Associate Planner Carolynn Petru,
and Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham.
COMMUNICATIONS
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Minutes of July 14, 1988
Minutes of July 26, 1988
Conditional Use Permit
No. 23 - Rev. 'ABB" Grading
No. 1146.
3447 Palos Vista
Chairman Connolly reported that he
had received a communication from
watt Industries which would be
addressed at the time this agenda
item was heard.
Director of Environmental Services
Benard reported that revised copies
of Pages 6 and 8 are included.
Commissioner wike noted that she
would abstain on this item because
she was not present at the meeting.
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
reported that a 20% grade in the
driveway is allowed under the
Code.
notion was made by commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Nike to approve the Consent Calendar. Notion
unanimously passed. Commissioner hike abstained on the ably 26
minutes.
Height Variation 494- Director of Environmental Services
Appeal - 4380 Dauntless Benard recommended and the Commis -
Drive sion approved continuance of this
item to September 27, 1988 in order
that further analysis may be
conducted by Staff.
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September 13, 1988
specific Pian VI - Coastal Jean Gath of the SWA Group intro -
Subregion 1 - Introductory duced the members of the consulting
Presentation team which will be involved in the
project, presented an aerial
photograph of the site and
discussed the policy issues
regarding land use, circulation,
views and coastal access which
the team will be dealing with as they move through the planning
process. Ms. Gath also briefly addressed the site location,
elevation, site designation, drainage areas, visual corridors,
natural vegetation corridors, the Coastal specific Plan as it
applies specifically to the site, and the coastal setback policy
which will be used as the basis to begin the plan effort.
Roger Van Wert, Urban Planner with Shea & Gould, discussed the
essential elements of the processes that will be undertaken along
with City Staff in order to begin to set up the concept
alternatives. Mr. Van Wert requested affirmation from the
Commission on the entire proposal, including the exercise of land
use alternatives.
Director of Environmental Services Benard clafiried the process
for submission of development applications for the Specific
Plan, zoning and development applications for the entire
subregion.
Conditional Use Permit
No. 141. Rev. "C", Sign
Permit No. 349 and 368.
28849 Western Avenue.
The Staff Report on this item was
waived.
Director of Environmental Services
Benard summarized the Staff's
intent in supporting the changes in
the building facade details and the
proposed color schemes in the
awnings along Western Avenue and
Caddington Drive. He added that
conditions have been proposed to
control signage and frame colors to
keep the shopping center from
appearing cluttered.
Bob Lemoine, on behalf of the applicant, said he would leave
signage considerations up to the Staff's discretion.
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September 13, 1988
Motion ma made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Yon Gagen to approve the application as set forth in
Alternative No. 2: Approve the applications subject to the
conditions attached in Exhibit A. Motion unanimously passed.
Height Variation No. 532 - Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
Appeal. 7 Mustang Road presented the Staff Report and
noted that staff conducted a view
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Variation from two occupied
-Y"`k\iproperties at 3 Eastfield Drive and
1 Rockinghorse Road and from the
vacant lot located behind 7 Mustang
Staff found that the proposed project conforms to all standards
of the RS -2 Zoning District and there was no identifiable view
impact from surrounding properties.
Rose Marie Di Santo, 23316 S. Normandie Avenue, the appellant,
said her property would be directly affected by the proposed
project, and discussed other physical impacts of the project with
particular emphasis on the visual impact.
Les Phelps, 7 Mustang Road, applicant, noted that view
obstruction caused by the proposed addition would be
insignificant.
Commissioner Wike made a correction to Section 6 of the
Resolution so it shall read: "That after consideration of the
appeal of Height Variation No. 532 on September 13, 1988, the
Planning Commission denied the appeal and thereby approved the
project at 7 Mustang Road."
Motion was made by comissioner fine and seconded by Commissioner
McNulty to adopt Staff Alternative no. 1: Adopt the attached
resolution denying the appeal, as there are no grounds for the
Planning omission to grant the appeal as set forth by the
Developetent Code. Motion unanimously passed.
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Conditional Use Permit
No. 23. Rev. "DDI'
3314 Palo Vista
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the Staff Report and
noted that Staff cannot make the
necessary findings to support the
Variance under the original
conditions of approval for the
Tract and Conditional Use Permit,
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September 13, 1988
Page Four
and finds the accessory structure
incompatible with the open space
requirements specified by the
Seacliff Hills Development
Guidelines.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
John Vilicich, 1622 So. Gaffey, was of the opinion that Mr.
Aguilera had attempted to obtain the proper permits for the shed,
therefore should not be penalized.
Peter Aguilera, 3314 Palo Vista Drive, noted that the structure
blends exactly with the residence, that the City was aware of its
existence at the time of construction, and removal would create a
hardship.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Wike noted that approval of this request would
confer a special privilege on the applicant, but she was in favor
of approval because of the special circumstances experienced by
Mr. Vilicich and Mr. Aguilera.
Motion was made by Commissioner Wike and seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen to approve Staff Alternative No. 1:
Approve the project as proposed. Motion unanimously passed.
Conditional Use Permit
No. 137. L.A. County
Fire Department.
29516 Miraleste Plaza
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru
presented the Staff Report and
noted that while the project would
impact road easements, setbacks,
intersection visibility, parking
and grading, it will provide a
needed expansion of the fire
protection facility and provide
essential emergency service to the
community. She added that
the issues raised can be adequately
mitigated through conditions of
approval.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Robert Erikson, Batallion Chief, Los Angeles County Fire
Department, noted his availability to answer questions, if
needed, and noted his agreement with Staff's recommendations.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
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September 13, 1988
Page Five
Motion vas made by Commissioner lOWLty and seconded by
Co■Missioner Yon Rages to adopt Staff Alternative No. 2: Adopt
the Negative Declaration and approve the project subject to the
conditions of approval in E2hibit 'A`. Motion onanlmonsly
passed.
A recess was taken from 8:20 p.m. until 8:30 p.m.
Variance No. 210
69 Headland
The Staff Report on this item was
waived.
Kieran Graner, 69 Headland Drive, did not wish to speak to this
item, but noted his availability to answer questions, if needed.
He noted that he understood that this project would cause maximum
build -out of lot coverage on the property.
Motion was made by Commissioner Bike and seconded by Commissioner
McMIty to adopt the Staff Recommendation: Approve as proposed.
Motion unanimously passed.
Coastal Permit No. 56, 57,
58, 59. Grading No. 1147,
1148, 1150, 1152.
64-6500 Seacove Drive.
The staff Report on this item was
waived. Director of Environmental
Services Benard reported that the
applicants have read and concur
with the conditions. He noted that
Staff finds the proposed Coastal
Permit and Grading applications are
consistent with the findings to
grant approval of such
applications. Staff, therefore,
recommended approval subject to
conditions.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.lY
Kurt Nelson, 22330 Hawthorne Boulevard, pFlm rllyAthe slope on
the property line.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Commissioner McNulty said he was not in favor of approving a deed
restriction covering maximum build out on lot coverage because it
would place an undue burden on the project.
Chairman Connolly concurred with Commissioner McNulty's opinion.
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September 13, 1988
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Commissioner wike pointed out to Mr. Nelson that he should be
_aware that a policy change regarding lot coverage could occur in
the near future.
Motion Was wide by commissioner McNulty and seconded by
commissioner Van Hagen to adopt Staff Alternative No. 3: Approve
subJect to conditions. Motion unanisously passed.
Tentative Tract Map No.
45667, Draft EIR No. 28
Conditional Use Permit
Permit No. 130. Grading
No. 1061.
At 9:05 p.m., Commissioner Von
Hagen excused himself from
participating in this project due
to his previously stated conflict.
Associate Planner Ben Ortega
presented the Staff Report and
noted that the Planning Commission
closed the public review period of
the Draft Environmental Impact
Report on August 9, 1988.
Mr. Ortega stated that Staff would recommend the Planning
Commission review the adequacy of the Final Environmental Impact
Report and continue the applications to the September 27, 1988
meeting at which time a final list of environmental mitigation
measures and conditions of approval will be presented with regard
to the tract map, lot line configuration, property line
adjustment, and trails. The documents°will then be acted on by
the Commission and recommendations forwarded to the City Council.
Mike Scullin, Robert Stone geologic consultant, reported that the
ravines would need to be filled to lend stability to the entire
hill, whether or not the lots in the ravines were eliminated.
Staff was questioned about the September 10, 11988 report from the
developer, which contained a quoted opinion from the City
Attorney with regard to grading and other sections of Code. Mr.
Benard noted that this issue be clarified by Staff and the City
Attorney.
commissioner McNulty then addressed the public's allegations
against Commissioner Von Hagen's involvement in the project, and
said that Commissioner Von Hagen had stated his conflict when
this item was initially brought to public hearing.
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September 13, 1988
Page seven
Mr. Benard also reiterated that Commissioner Von Hagen is acting
pursuant to consultation with the City Attorney and has excused
himself properly whenever this item has been heard. He added
that commissioner Von Hagen need not repeat his statement each
time the item is heard.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Dr. Grant Stucki, 31319 Marne Drive, referred to Commissioner Von
Hagen's involvement in the project and expressed concern about
performance bonding for various portions of the development.
Barbara Dye, 7035 Hartcrest Drive, representing the Trails
Committee, reviewed the Trails Committee's recommendations for
the site. She stressed that a multi -use trail was recommended,
but a buggy trail was never suggested by the Trails Committee.
Chairman Connolly noted that a preponderance of the public
opinion was in opposition to a slope trail above the development.
Larry Schmidt, 3330 Palos Verdes Drive West, representing Watt
Industries, commented on the information quoted by the City
Attorney and requested that the City Attorney attend a hearing on
the project to answer questions himself. He stated that the
developer is cooperating with the City on a majority of issues,
and are in general agreement with the Conditions of Approval.
Mr. Schmidt also noted that the developer would be posting bonds,
and all actions would be made a matter of public record. He
requested approval of the suggested setbacks and approval for an
extension of the lot lines to the rear of the property. Mr.
Schmidt made it clear that absolutely no member of the Staff or
the Planning Commission is either on the staff or on the payroll
of Watt Industries or Watt Palos Verdes.
Edward Pearson, 4184 Maritime Road, announced his availability to
answer engineering questions if needed.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, said she found personal
evidence of a landslide on the property and referred to a letter
from Daniel Torrance which made reference to earth movements on
the property. She requested that the canyons not be filled
because they are a natural water course, and expressed opposition
to the opinion from the American Geotechnical consultant. Mrs.
Larue also requested that the project not be allowed to proceed,
and alleged that Commissioner ortolano is being paid by Mr. Barry
Hon.
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September 13, 1988
Page Eight
Tin Burrell, 4035 8yultant Drive, announced his availability to
answer questions, if needed.
Philip Robinson, 3205 Barkentine, requested that the staff Report
be reproduced and made available to the public, and asked that
Staff not make any final recommendations until all public
comments are taken into account. Mr. Robinson also expressed
concern about the amount of earth that would be moved along Palos
Verdes Drive South, and urged an increase in the lot sizes.
Sharon Herzog, 19 San Clemente, was in complete agreement with
the project as proposed.
Major Oscar TounQquist, 30840 Harthorne Boulevard, expressed the
Salvation Army's opposition to the trail that would intersect
Salvation Army property.
Sunshine, 6 Lifetree Lase, presented the Commission with a map
that was generated after the Trails Committee's recommendation
was made, and noted that the trail is proposed to be in an area
that is already disturbed and would simply be another terrace on
the slope. she also noted that the Horseman's Association is
made up of approximately 1000 members who favor the loop trail
through the open space areas.
Jim Hinsdale, the consultant who prepared the Draft EZR for the
City, addressed the slopes on the eastern and western ends of the
property and the issue of accommodating the steepness of the
trails by using switchbacks.
Mr. Schmidt again addressed the Commission to be specific as to
their recommendation on the trails.
Commissioner Wike expressed concern about lot coverage and asked
that the lots be a minimum of 10,000 square feet. She was also
concerned about the security of the property owners along the
North-South trail and about indemnification of the homeowners
should land slippage occur.
Commissioner McNulty was concerned about the developer's
reference to the City Attorney's quoted opinion and asked for a
clarification from Staff. He was not opposed to a hiking trail,
but he was concerned about the steepness of the North-South
trail, and about an equestrian trail on the hillside. He also
recommended that Staff and the developer work out any problems
within the next two weeks.
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September 13, 1988
Page Nine
Chairman Connolly requested that Staff develop two options with
regard to filling the canyons. Option One would list the
benefits of filling the canyons, and Option Two would shot the
result of proceeding with the recommendation to grade and export
the dirt. Chairman Connolly also recommended the establishment
of a telephone hotline at City Hall, paid for by the developer,
in order for residents to report any problems with the project
without having to go through the main switchboard. He
recommended a minimal East-West foot trail, was in agreement with
Staff with regard to the setbacks and irrigation.
Director of Environmental Services Benard indicated he needed
direction from the Commission on the EZR, tentative map, CUP,
etc., and particularly on the issue of lot sizes and canyon
filling so this project can be brought to conclusion in two
weeks. He clarified that Staff recommended 57 lots in the
development, not 64 lots, and that 400,000 cubic yards of dirt is
proposed to be removed under the scenario of filling the canyons.
Mr. Benard also noted that there is support for an East-West
pedestrian access trail and Staff will work with the Trails
Committee to identify the trails more precisely.
Motion was wade by tomissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Vile to continue this item to Septenber 27,` 1988.
Motion nnauiwousiy passed. (Commissioners,,Von Hagen was not
present) . o—A OTA(Ae-^m
A recess was taken from 10:50 p.m. to 11:00 p.m.
Commissioner Von Hagen returned to the meeting at 11:00 p.m.
Tentative Tract No. 46422 Associate Planner Ortega presented
Environmental Assessment the Staff Report and noted that No.
554 Staff was concerned with the
Grading Application issues: (1) lack of consistency
No. 1151 with the topographical call outs
30032 Palos Verde: Dr. W. on the grading plan submitted and
actual site contours. (2) The
developer proposed to abandon an
existing 25 foot easement along the south property line for road,
public utilities and bridle trail purposes; the Trails
Committee had recommended that abandonment of the bridle trail
would be inappropriate at this time. (3) The grading plan's 2:1
slopes along the new street would exceed the Development Code
provisions by greater than 350. (4) Lot #6 of the tract map as
proposed does not meet the required lot depth as required by the
Development Code. Mr. Ortega said that in light of these issues,
Staff believes the Tentative Map and Grading Application should
be continued to address these concerns.
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SepteaI r 13, 1998
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Chairman Connolly inquired whether the deficiency in maps had
been communicated to the applicant. Mr. Benard reported that the
applicant's response to this issue was to correct the
deficiencies prior to approval of the final map.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Kenneth Creal, 220 South Pacific Coast Highway, noted that a
stamped, certified version of the previous map including adjacent
contiguous properties had been prepared. He also wished to
withdraw the proposal to alter the easement for road, trail and
public utilities. Mr. Creal then requested approval of the
revised map as submitted.
Jack Wood, 200 Pier Avenue, presented copies of the updated maps
and reviewed the discussion he had held with Staff on this issue.
He stressed that it was not his intent to deceive the Commission
or the City and he was trying to determine whether the land could
be developed.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing and asked staff to
place this item on the Consent Calendar once the issues in
questions have been worked out in conjunction with the Public
Works Department.
Notion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
commissioner Von Hagen to continue this item on the consent
calendar for the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting on 27, 1988. If this was not feasible, then
the item would be brought back to public hearing. Motion
unanimously passed.
Variance No. 183 The Staff Report on this item was
Coastal Permit No. 38 waived. Assistant Planner Laurie
204 seascape Brigham noted that the applicant
concurs with the conditions.
Elena Jepson Byrne, noted her availability to answer questions,
if needed.
lotion was made by commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner vike to approve Staff Alternative No. 4: Approve
the coastal Permit and Variance as conditioned. Motion
unanimously passed.
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Conditional Use Permit -
No. 138. Variance No. -.205.
Grading No. 1101.
31270 Palos Verdes Dr. W.
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The Staff Report on this item
was waived. Director of Environ-
mental Services Benard noted the
Staff recommendation to continue
this item to the September 27, 1988
Planning Commission meeting.
The public hearing was opened and there were no speakers. The
public hearing was closed.
notion was =ade by tommissioner McNulty and seconded by
commissioner von Hagen to adopt the Staff reca�datlon to
continue this Item to the September 27, 1988 Planning Commission
meeting. notion unan#sonsly passed.
Conditional Use Permit The Staff Report on this item was
No. 118. Rev. "A". waived. Commissioner Wike SxadAa'
No. 1005. asked Staff to clarify Condition
31270 Palos Verdes Dr. W. No.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Suzanne Dolcher, President of the Church Council, was concerned
about the first sentence in Condition No. 11 and read a suggested
revision.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Wike to approve the project pursuant to Staff
Alternative No. 3: Approve subject to conditions which supersede
previously approved conditions of Conditional Use Permit No. 118
and Grading Application No. 1005. The first sentence of Item No.
11 shall be amended to insert the word "generally" so the
sentence shall read: Hours of operation and use of the overall
church facilities shall be generally governed by attached Exhibit
"B". Motion unanimously passed.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
There were no questions from the audience.
STAFF REPORT
Director of Environmental Services Benard announced that a South
Nest Area Planning Council meeting and dinner will be held on
September 30, 1988.
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September 13, 1988
Page Twelve
Mr. Benard discussed the Commission's schedule for a date on
which to schedule the trip to the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Laguna
Miguel.
Mr. Benard announced that Assistant Planner Ben Ortega will be
leaving the City's employment ink weeks.
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COMMISSION REPORT
Commissioner Von Hagen indicated an interest in scheduling a
dinner for Ann Negendank.
Chairman Connolly announced he will leave before the end of the
meeting on September 27, 1988.
Chairman Connolly reported that he will suggest to Mayor Ryan
that a building moratorium be imposed in order to limit the
number of major items on the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT There being no further business,
the meeting was duly adjourned at
11.58 p.m. to 7;30 p.m. at Hesse
Park on September 27, 1988.