PC MINS 19880614E
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 14, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Connolly
at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Ortolano, Von Hagen, Connolly, McNulty, Wike
ABSENT: None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert Benard,
Associate Planner Ben Ortega, Associate Planner Carolynn Wilker
and Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham.
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
MINUTES OF APRIL 12, 1988
Chairman Connolly reported that
a communication had been received
from Watt Industries regarding
a proposal to construct 64 homes.
The Commission had no objection
to temporarily removing Item IVC
from the Consent Calendar and
placing Item IVE into the Public
Hearings section on the agenda
after Public Works personnel became
available.
Notion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by Commission-
er Wike to approve the minutes with the following change: Place
Paragraph 4, Page 2 immediately following Paragraph 2.
Notion unanimously passed.
Conditional Use Permit No. Associate Planner Ortega noted
107 Extension. Pedregal that the conditions in this request
School, 6060 Grove Oak Pl. comply with the original conditions
of approval, and statf recommended
granting a two year extension for
Conditional Use Permit No. 107.
Grading No. 1069 -REV.; Associate Planner Ortega noted
6224 Ocean Terrace the staff recommendation to approve
the request with the following
conditions:
1. Maximum building ridge height shall be 1076.01.
2. Prior to an occupancy permit, a deed restriction shall
be recorded prohibiting the installation of a kitchen
in the studio located over the garage.
3. No structure shall encroach into the BGR (Building Grading
Restriction) line as delineated on said plans.
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4. The maximum grading outside the building footprint shall
not exceed 50 cubic yards.
5. The project shall drain toward the street. Said drainage
plan shall be approved by the City Engineer.
6. obtain a new grading permit for the required over excava-
tion and recompaction.
Notion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen to approve the Consent Calendar. Notion unanimously passed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Variance No. 209 Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
3638 Coolheights presented the Staff Report and
related the Staff recommendation
to approve Alternative No. 3 which
states:
Approve the application with the following conditions:
1. The existing landscaping which screens the deck and footings
must be properly maintained to screen the structure.
2. The structure must be maintained with a color that blends with
the natural landscape.
3. All required building permits must be obtained.
4. The deck projection over the extreme slope shall be reduced
by 5 feet 6 inches.
Chairman Connolly read a letter he had received from Ms. Beth Durocher
stating her support for the deck.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Mr. Philip Brunner, 3638 Coolheights Drive, presented to the Commission
photographs and a handout requesting a variance on the deck. He
also reviewed the history behind the construction of the deck and
related, in chronological order, the revisions made to his home
and construction permits applied for and obtained. Mr. Brunner
reiterated that the deck was constructed prior to incorporation
of the City, and agreed to comply with the Conditions of Approval.
However, Mr. Brunner asked that the provision be removed from the
Conditions which states that the deck projection over the extreme
slope should be reduced by five feet six inches, because this would
cause a major disruption to the structural integrity of the deck
and would be costly.
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Commissioner Wike questioned if the County would have permitted
this deck.
Director of Environmental Services Benard indicated that there was
no preclusion from the deck being constructed before the City was
incorporated and under County regulations after incorporation, but
a permit would have been required.
Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham addressed Commissioner Wike's
questions of communication between the Building and Planning Divisions
regarding different approvals.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by Commissioner
Ortolano to approve Staff Alternative no. 3 approving the variance
with the conditions as proposed by Staff with the exception of
Condition No. 4.
Motion amended by Commissioner Ortolano to change the work *maintain*
in Condition No. I to read "enhance".
Notion unanimously passed.
Appeal rights were noted.
Variance No. 201.
30023 Knollview Drive
Associate Planner Ben Ortega presented -
the Staff Report
Staff responded affirmatively to Commissioner McNulty's question
of whether eight feet of the deck is cantilevered.
Both Commissioners Wike and Ortolano inquired if the provisions
of the Extreme Slope Permit could be met in this instance.
Associate Planner Ortega noted the staff's intent to have the
deck modified in order to adhere to the provisions of the
extreme slope permit.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Mr. Johnny Rempertp South Bay Engineering Corp., 304 Tejon
Place, engineer for the property owner, detailed the history
behind the construction of the deck and the actions that were
taken to obtain grading permits.
Mr. Rempert displayed plans showing how the slope could be
regraded so as not to fall under the definition of an extreme
slope, and summarized the efforts of the applicant to correct
the problem. He urged approval of the variance as submitted.
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner McNulty noted the difference between Mr. Rempert's
measurements and Asssociate Planner Ortega's and asked about
planning clearances. Mr. Ortega summarized the procedure for
issuance of building permits.
Motion was made by Commissioner Aike to approve Staff
Alternative No. 3 which states:
Deny the variance and direct the applicant to modify the deck
adhering to the provisions of an Extreme Slope Permit.
Motion failed for lack of a second.
Associate Planner Ortega outlined the following four conditions
in response to Commissioner Ortolano's request for an analysis
of the conditions of approval:
1. The existing deck shall be modified so as not to extend
beyond six feet over the existing extreme slope.
2. The applicant shall submit and have approved a slope
stability analysis by the City Engineer; compliance with
all recommendations is required.
3. The applicant shall submit and have approved a landscape and
irrigation plan by the Department of Environmental Services.
Such plan shall include groundcover and shrubs with dense
foliage for lower deck screening and to minimize slope
erosion and water run-off.
4. The above conditions shall be complied with no later than
180 days unless an extension of time is granted by the
Planning Commission.
Motion made by Commissioner Ortolano to approve the variance
subject to the conditions imposed by the Planning Commission, and
that the conditions be as articulated by Mr. Ortega.
Director of Environmental Services Benard noted the difficulties
that staff and the applicant might confront depending on what
vehicle the variance is approved through, and recommended
continuance of this item to July 12th.
Commissioner Ortolano withdrew the motion.
Mr. Rempert asked to make a comment and conveyed the reluctance
of the property owners to reduce the size of the deck; he
restated his compromise to regrade to a flatter slope in order to
comply with the extreme slope criteria.
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Notion was made by Chairman Connolly and seconded by Commissioner
McNulty to continue this item to July 26, 1988. Notion
unanimously passed.
A recess was taken from 9:00 to 9:10 p.m.
Environmental Assessment No. Associate Planner Carolynn Wilker
550F City of Rancho Palos presented the Staff Report
Verdes, Palos Verdes Drive
East between Via Subida and
Miraleste Drive
Commissioner Ortolano discussed traffic disruption on Palos
Verdes Drive East, and questioned whether removal of the trees
was mandatory or discretionary and the appropriateness of using
root guards. Environmental Services Director Benard responded
that the actual removal was an administrative function.
Director of Public Works George Wentz clarified that Palos Verdes
Drive East is an arterial street and reviewed his past experience
with the applicability and effectiveness of placing root guards on
street trees. Mr. Wentz stated that root guards could be
considered in this instance so as to preclude the roots from
growing back onto the pavement, and related the criteria used to
determine when a tree must be removed as a result of damage
caused by the tree. The cost of the root guards would be between
$500 and $800 including installation.
Commissioner Von Hagen questioned the appropriateness of the
Planning Commission, as opposed to the City Council, in making
determinations regarding removal of particular street trees.
Director of Environmental Services Benard related the California
Environmental Quality Law that covers the Commission's
responsibility in dealing with appropriate issues.
Commissioner Ortolano noted the role the trees play as safety
barriers along the roadway, and questioned the Commission's
responsibilities if a Negative Declaration were adopted.
Commissioner Ortolano also expressed concern about how to balance
an identified resource versus the cost and safety issues, and
requested information on the components of an Environmental
Impact Report other than aesthetics, safety and cost.
Commissioner Von Hagen indicated that if a Negative Declaration
is adopted, an Environmental Impact Report would be unnecessary.
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Mr. Wentz identified those property owners who have indicated a
preference with regard to maintaining or removing trees adjacent
to their lots.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Cheryl Caughlin, President of the Miraleste Homeowners
Association expressed the Association's concern that the trees
are an intrinsic part of the area and are opposed to their
removal. The Association is also in opposition with the City's
basis for identifying which trees are to be maintained and/or
removed.
Jack Eberhardt, 4220 Palos Verdes Drive East, expressed
disagreement with the City's tree removal proposal. Mr.
Eberhardt requested that the safety of his household be
considered and that an Environmental Impact Report be prepared.
Janet Esposito, 6276 Via Canada, addressed the aesthetics and
historical importance of the trees.
Janelle Peak, 4204 Palos Verdes Drive East, addressed the value
of the trees, particularly in accident prevention, and requested
that alternatives to their removal be considered.
Bern Shyfferr, 4212 Palos Verdes Drive East, suggested resolving
the issue by the placement of root guards.
Mr. Wentz responded to the issue of root guard placement, and
indicated that the City is also considering installing root
guards first as a repair measure, and also paying the cost if a
second repair should become necessary.
Chairman Connolly noted his discomfort with making any decisions
other than to request a public workshop. It was his opinion that
the homeowners should be given more information.
Director of Environmental Services Benard reviewed the criteria
for requesting an Environmental Impact Report, and stated the
Commission needed to evaluate whether the impacts are adverse and
unavoidable and whether mitigation is available. He indicated
that an Environmental Impact Report would cost approximately
$5000 to prepare, and suggested that a recommendation to the
Commission on additional mitigation measures be drafted in
cooperation with the Department of Public Works.
Commissioner Ortolano asked that mitigation measures be drafted
that deal with the impact on the property owners.
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Commissioner Von Hagen questioned whether the public could appeal
the Commission's decision should the Commission choose not to
adopt a Negative Declaration. Commissioner Von Hagen stated
disagreement with the mitigation measures as stated in the Staff
Report.
Commissioner McNulty was concerned about the City's legal
liability in the area, and was satisfied with the mitigation
measures as proposed.
Chairman Connolly announced that individual property owners had
the right to appeal whatever decision is made, and pointed out
the responses from the communications that were sent to the
property owners.
Commissioner Nike concurred that legal liability exists, and
asked for an opinion from the City Attorney in regard to the
City's liability.
Commissioner Ortolano indicated that as a Commissioner and as a
citizen she would like to see the trees preserved, but would not
wish to accept any liability to accomplish that end. She did not
think it was appropriate to put the burden of preserving the
trees on the individual property owners.
Mr. Wentz noted that the City has not yet established a firm
timetable with regard to the removal of trees on Palos Verdes
Drive East.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by Chairman
Connolly to adopt the Negative Declaration as prepared. The
Motion did not pass. Commissioners Von Hagen, Ortolano and Nike
dissented.
Motion was made by Commissioner Von Hagen and seconded by
Commissioner Ortolano to reject the adoption of a Negative
Declaration and not require the preparation of an Environmental
Impact Report. The notion did not pass. Commissioners McNulty,
Connolly and Nike dissented.
Director of Environmental Services Benard recommended continuance
of this item after all related issues have been discussed with
the City Attorney.
Motion was made by Chairman Connolly and seconded by Commissioner
Nike to continue the public hearing to June 28, 1988. Motion
unanimously passed.
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Environmental Assessment No.' Commissioner Von Hagen stated that due
532 for Draft Environmental 1 to prior association that he would stand
Impact Report No. 28 to make a commission in the event the
Tentative Tract Nap 45667, sale of the subject property consummated
Watt Homes, 6500 Block of with Watt Palos Verdes. Therefore he
Palos Verdes Drive East shall neither participate in any discus-
sions concerning this application, nor
cast any vote with respect to the applica-
tion.
Reading of the Staff Report was waived.
Associate Planner Wilker presented information regarding average
lot sizes of other existing developments in the area in response
to a question from Commissioner Ortolano.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, expressed the Peninsula Horsemen's
Association and the Trail Committee's disagreement with the
Environmental Impact Report due to inadequate analysis of
pedestrian and equestrian trail issues.
Chairman Connolly asked that the minutes of the Trails Committee
meeting be distributed to all concerned.
Edward Pearson, 4184 Maritime Road, an engineer for the
developerr, announced his support for the proposal and
availability for clarification, if necessary.
Larry Schmidt, 3339 Palos Verdes Drive West, presented the
Commission with information relating to the proposed
construction, including a summary of site statistics, project
description, areas of concern, and environmental impacts. He
stressed that he is neither requesting nor proposing controlled
access to the proposed site, stated that he was not in agreement
with Staff's interpretation of local geology and grading, and
addressed the issue of cutting into the existing slope versus
extensive filling.
Director of Environmental Services Benard addressed Commissioner
Wike's concern about drains by responding that this mitigation
measure was recommended at this point by the City Engirieer, and
this issue would be deferred to the City Engineer as to an
appropriate system.
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Regarding Commissioner Ortolano's inquiry that a situation
similar to Seacliff Hills could occur in the proposed
development, Mr. Schmidt suggested a willingness to work on deed
resrictions, and commented on the number of models and proposed
options. He also indicated that the Commission's concern about
open space requirements, passive recreational areas, and lot
extensions up the slope will be taken into consideration.
This item was continued to the July 26, 1988 meeting.
Commissioner von Hagen returned to the meeting.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
✓Negative Declaration for
Environmental Assessment No.
548 TPN No. 19424, Grading
No. 1123, Geological Report
Review No. 33, 3027 Crest
Road
Associate Planner Carolynn Wi.lker
presented the staff report and
explained that staff has been
unable to prepare an Initial
Study for the proposed lot split
because comments from some agencies
were not received until June 28,
1988.
Staff therefore requested that the Commission -and the public
provide comments, which would incorporated into the Initial Study
and staff's recommendations on the proposed project. The
Commission must act on the proposal by July 1, 1988.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Mr. Mike Soong, 3027 Crest Road, addressed issues of fencing,
geology and drainage, and presented a new proposal that was revised
after consultation with an engineer. He also indicated a
willingness to continue the extension date until July 1, after
staff has had an opportunity to evaluate the revised proposal.
Robert Rosa, 3102 Corrina Drive, indicated that he was encouraged
by the staff recommendation that approval of the action include
maintenance of the trees that impact views for residents on
Corrina Drive.
Robert Morrell, 3126 Corrina Drive, also addressed the trees on
Corrina Drive. His prime concern was view obstruction.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner Wike to continue this item to June 28, 1988, with
the possibility that it could be continued to a later date.
Notion passed unanimously.
Negative Declaration for
Environmental Assessment
No. 551, Coastal Permit
No. 54, Grading No. 1135,
Klondike Canyon,
Portuguese Bend Club
The staff report was waived.
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Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
John McCarthy, 105 Spindrift Drive, expressed concern that the
conditions staff wished to add would be costly to the homeowners.
Director of Environmental Services Benard noted the mitigating
measures that are included in the Negative Declaration.
Chairman Connolly questioned staff about the proposed joint use
of the maintenance agreement.
Director of Public Works Wentz clarified the responsibilities of
the two districts involved in this item.
Associate Planner Ben Ortega made a correction to Item No. 4,
Exhibit *A* in the Conditions of Approval, so it shall read:
*Where placed on the beach, the headwalls and wingwalls shall not
have more than two feet exposure as measured from the outside
exterior of these walls. The fencing height shall not exceed
four feet above the concrete wall.`
Chairman Connolly closed the public hearing.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ortolano and seconded by
Commissioner Wike to adopt the Staff recommendation to approve
the Negative Declaration, Coastal Permit and Grading Application
subject to condition. Motion unanimously passed.
Appeal rights were noted.
NEW BUSINESS
No new business came before the Commission.
STAFF REPORT
Director of Environmental Services Benard notified the
Commission that the grading project with respect to 3470 Via
Campesina has been recalculated and found to be approximately 308
underestimated. Staff recommended that the Commission approve
the recalculation and that it be substituted in the original
approvals.
Motion was made by Commissioner McNulty and seconded by
Commissioner von Hagen to insert the recalculated figures into
Grading Application GR1067. Motion unanimously passed.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly ad3ourned at
11:40 p.m. to June 22, 1988, 7:30
p.m. at Hesse Park Community
Building.