PC MINS 19880426PLANNING COMMISSION
April 26, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 PM by Chairman Connolly
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: CONNOLLY, MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Associate Planner Greg Fuz, Associate Planner Ben Ortega,
Associate Planner Carolynn Wilker and Assistant Planner Laurie
Brigham.
COMMUNICATIONS Chairman Connolly noted
communications regarding
Consent Calendar Item A, Variance No. 188, from Mr. Hal Strack
and Mr. George Shaw.
CONSENT CALENDAR Item A, Variance No. 188, was
removed from the Consent
Calendar for discussion at the end of the meeting.
Alternative No. 3 of the staff recommendation pertaining to Item
No. E, Grading No. 1107, was modified to include, "3. Approve
the application with the condition that a landscaping plan and
vegetation covenant be submitted to the Director of Environmental
Services for review and approval to soften the impact of the
driveway and retaining walls; the entry and garage building walls
and to protect the existing views from surrounding property from
significant view impairment."
Paragraph 1, Page 4, of Item G, Minutes of March 7, 1988, was
modified to read, "Commissioners Ortolano and Wike related that
they could support the motion if someone else could make the
findings, as they could not make the findings for the Variance."
Commissioner Von Hagen related his understanding that, according
to the Law, one must make the findings in order to support a mo-
tion.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of the Consent Calendar as
amended; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanim-
ously.
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Conditional Use Permit
No. 120 - Revision "A",
Grading No. 1108;
J/West, Inc.
29519 Western
Variance No. 195, Coastal
Permit No. 45, Grading
No. 1098; Harold Levitt,
AIA & Associates/Mr. &
Mrs. Mark Hughes,
30145/65 Marguerite
Mr. Tim Burrell
Ms. Patricia Fiedler
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Commissioner McNulty moved to
continue Conditional Use Per-
mit No. 120 - Revision "A" and
Grading No. 1108 to May 24,
1988; seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen and passed unani-
mously.
Associate Planner Ben Ortega
presented the staff report.
Chairman Connolly opened the
public hearing.
The proponents of the request
included:
4038 Exultant Drive
824 S. Curson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90036
The proponents discussed: the history and specifics of the
request; the proposed design would preserve views; the storm
drain pipe would be screened with landscaping; the proposed
landscaping would create a tropical environment; the existing
garage would be removed; and the applicant's desire for a grassy
play area.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to close the public hearing;
seconded by Commissioner Ortolano and passed unanimously.
Commissioner McNulty explained that he could not support the
Variance request. He noted that on -grade slabs have not been
permitted in the past and that, while a pool within the Coastal
Setback area might be aesthetically appealing, it is not per-
mitted according to the Code.
Commissioner Ortolano expressed her support of Alternative No. 2
to approve Coastal Permit No.45 and Grading No. 1098, subject to
conditions, and to deny Variance No. 195.
Commissioner Von Hagen pointed out that the item could be con-
tinued in order to enable the applicant to further work with
staff.
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Commissioner Wike voiced her concern ove theplacement of struc-
tures within the Coastal Setback area,, over the proposed grading
which she maintained would be excessive.
Staff clarified that the Code prohibits the placement of a pool
in the front and side yard setbacks and that decking within the
Coastal Setback area would be prohibited.
Director of Environmental Services Benard discussed that
landscaping materials should be drought tolerant.
Commissioner Ortolano moved approval of Alternative No. 2 as
recommended by staff, subject to the following modifications to
Exhibit "A":
"4c ... plans to eliminate existing sheetflow conditions or
screened by appropriate devices to be approved by the
Director of Environmental Services..."
"12. This approval is valid for 180 days and may be
extended an additional 180 days with approval of the
Director of Environmental Services."
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wike and passed by a 4-1
majority vote with Commissioner Von Hagen dissenting.
Commissioner Von Hagen stressed that the item should be con-
tinued.
Appeal rights were noted.
At 9:20 PM there was a recess until 9:30 PM.
Code Amendment No. 26, Chairman Connolly noted a
EA No. 547; communication from Mr. Warren
Commercial Development Sweetnam relating the RPV
Standards Council of Homeowners Associ-
ation's opposition to Code
Amendment No. 26 as proposed.
Associate Planner Greg Fuz presented the staff report.
Chairman Connolly opened the public hearing.
Mr. John Corcoran, 6610 PV Drive South, representing the Monaghan
Co., discussed: parcelization; the restaurant on the site would
be reactivated; 30 percent proposed lot coverage; trails; im-
proved coastal access; and proposed building heights.
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Those opposing the request included:
Mr. Warren Sweetnam
Mr. J. J. D. McLaren
7 Top Rail
3823 PV Drive South
Those opposing the request discussed: concern that the proposed
changes would change the Code so that any areas zoned Commercial
Recreational in the future would benefit from the revisions
being made for the Long Point project; the RPV Council of
Homeowners Association's support of the development of Long Point
with the Planning Commission reviewing detailed plans to ensure
that the proposed development would not impact views; concern
over the ability to approve 48 foot heights and a reduction in
open space; and Mr. Sweetnam's understanding that the proposed
Height Initiative covers all zones within the City.
Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded
by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
Commissioner Ortolano suggested that any acreage below 5 acres
should be handled through a Conditional Use Permit. She related
her opinion that the landscaping on top of the parking structure
should be included as open space. She voiced concern over 48
foot high buildings and indicated that same should be handled
through a Variance.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed that any acreage below 20 acres
could be handled through a Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner McNulty commented that any acreage below 5 acres
could be considered but not encouraged. He provided input
regarding the proposed 48 foot height limitation and stressed
that the most appropriate development location for such improve-
ments was on the Long Point property.
Chairman Connolly noted the importance of informing the public
that the highest Marineland structure was 48 feet.
Staff pointed out that the issue of parcelization could be
addressed as a Conditional Use Permit and approved as part of a
master plan for the entire site. Staff provided input pertaining
to 30 percent lot coverage as recommended by staff and noted that
the Marineland structures were constructed prior to the City's
incorporation.
Director of Environmental Services Benard discussed the criteria
which must be met prior to the approval of any building over 16
feet in height.
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Commissioner McNulty moved adoption of P. C. Resolution No. 88 -
approving the Negative Declaration for EA No. 547 and adoption of
Development Code Amendment No. 26 with the following
modifications:
"17.16.040 Development Standards
(8) Minimum development site area may be modified by the
Planning Commission subject to approval of a Conditional
Use Permit."
"17.24.040 Development Standards
a. Lot Area. The minimum lot size for any parcel within
this district shall be twenty (20) acres. The Planning
Commission may modify the minimum lot size for any lot,
subject to approval of a Conditional Use Permit."
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed by a
3-2 majority vote with Commissioners Ortolano and Wike dissent-
ing.
Variance No. 200, Associate Planner Carolynn
Coastal Permit No. 50; Wilker presented the staff
Richard B. Collins, report.
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Chairman Connolly opened the
public hearing.
The proponents of the request included:
Mr. Richard Collins 14 Empty Saddle
Rolling Hills Estates, 90274
Mr. John Me Carthy 105 Spindrift
Ms. Gale Lovrich 104 Spindrift
The proponents discussed: the structure was completed in April
1982; Mr. Collins' understanding that the addition was exempt
since it was built prior to the recording of the lot line
adjustments; and Ms. Lovrich's and Mr. Me Carthy's support of
the project, including that the improvements made to the
applicant's property improved their drainage.
Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded
by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
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Commissioner Ortolano expressed her interest in the City
Attorney's opinion regarding the applicant's understanding that
the addition was approved at the time the lot line adjustments
were granted. She pointed out that the master bedroom addition
is not visible from the street.
Commissioners McNulty and Von Hagen supported an approval of
Variance No. 200 and Coastal Permit No. 50.
Chairman Connolly noted the importance of an inspection of the
structure by the Building Department prior to the issuance of any
building permits.
Commissioner Wike voiced her concern over the excessive amount of
new square footage that has been added to the structure. She in-
dicated that she would have difficulty making the findings to ap-
prove the requests.
Staff noted that the City Council minutes during which the
Moratorium Exemption was granted indicate that the project did
not involve plumbing. Staff clarified that, in fact, the size of
the existing bathroom was increased. In addition, the lot line
adjustment dealt only with property lines and not with the legal
sstatus of the structure. Staff suggested that, in the event of
an approval of the requests, the Resolution should be returned to
the Commission to include language to require a geology report, a
liability waiver and building permits.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of Variance No. 200 and Coas-
tal Permit No. 50; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed
unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
Grading No. 1090;
Hendrickson, Bousabat
31004 Marne Drive
None.
The presentation of the staff
report was waived.
Chairman Connolly invited interested parties to speak to the
item.
Mr. Donald Hendrickson, P. 0. Box 248, Palos Verdes Estates,
90274, applicant, discussed: concern over Exhibit "A" as recom-
mended by staff; the specifics of the project; the left side yard
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wall would be 5-1/2 feet at the rear and 3-1/2 feet at the front;
the stairway for access to the slope area was eliminated; and the
infringements are minor.
Commissioner Wike noted that tree and vegetation heights should
be addressed as a Condition of Approval.
Director of Environmental Services Benard pointed out that the
project was designed several years ago and does not conform to
the current Code.
Commissioner Ortolano moved approval of Alternative No. 3 subject
to the Conditions of Approval of Exhibit "A" as modified:
1. Total site grading shall be modified to minimize
disruption of extreme slopes and shall be subject
to the following conditions:
A. The north side yard retaining wall shall step
from 3 feet 6 inches to 5 feet 6 inches.
B. Within the left side yard area, no slope
access stairs shall encroach into the extreme
slope area beyond the side yard retaining wall.
2. A landscape plan and vegetation covenant must be
submitted to the Director of Environmental Services
for review and approval. Landscaping shall be
designed to protect existing views from nearby
residences.
3. The columns located at the driveway entrance shall not
exceed 42 inches.
4. This approval shall expire in 180 days with an exten-
sion for an additional 180 days subject to the approval
of the Director of Environmental Services.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Wike and passed unanim-
ously.
Appeal rights were noted.
Director of Environmental Services Benard related staff's concern
over side yard retaining walls as high as 66 inches. He noted
that the applicant's revised plans have not yet been submitted to
the City and that staff will return the applicable Resolution for
Commission approval.
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At this time, Consent Calendar Item A was considered:
P. C. Resolution No. 88 -
Approving Variance No. 188 (A)
for a Deck at
28053 Lobrook Drive
Commissioner Von Hagen voiced
his concern that the approval
of variances was based on
administrative error, as
listed in Section I of the
applicable Resolution.
Commissioners Ortolano and McNulty indicated that an approval due
to administrative error was appropriate for Variance No. 188, but
would not be a general policy.
Director of Environmental Services Benard related the City
Attorney's opinion that the language regarding administrative er-
ror was appropriate in this case.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of Consent Calendar Item A;
seconded by Commissioner Ortolano and passed unanimously.
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS None.
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Staff Director of Environmental
Services Benard noted the
upcoming SWAPC luncheon on Friday, April 29, 11:00 AM.
Director of Environmental Services Benard commented on the need
to schedule Planning Commission work sessions on the various
projects before the City.
The Commission agreed to meet on May 10, 6:30 PM.
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Commissioner Wike suggested
that the Commission should
discuss fencing at Seacliff
Hills.
Commissioner Ortolano mentioned that the fencing on Crest Road
seems to be encroaching more than it needs to.
ADJOURNMENT
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The meeting was adjourned
at 11:30 PM.