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PC MINS 19871013• • • M I N U T E S PLANNING COMMISSION October 13, 1987 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Chairperson Ortolano at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. PRESENT: CONNOLLY, MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE ABSENT: NONE Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert Benard, Associate Planner Ben Ortega and Assistant Planner Carolynn Wilker. IWIL ISO U 011 Ito" U63 L CONSENT CALENDAR Chairperson Ortolano indicated that communications would be related during discussion of pertinent items. Minutes of September 8, 1987 Commissioner Wike pointed out that when Commissioner concerns are stated as included on Page 2, Paragraph 1, of the September 8, 1987 minutes, there should be more specific details, especially when a "No" vote is cast Resolution P. C. No. 87 - Approving Variance No. 174 32424 Aqua Vista Drive Director of Environmental Services Benard noted the applicant's indication that a landscape plan is forthcoming. Commissioner Von Hagen moved approval of the Consent Calendar as written; seconded by Commissioner McNulty and passed by a majority vote with Commissioner Connolly abstaining (due to his absence at the September 8, 1987 meeting). Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 2 PUBLIC HEARINGS CUP No. 1 - Revision, Assistant Planner Carolynn Wilker EA No. 508, GR No. 988 presented the staff report. and Variance No. 153 Ascension Lutheran Church Chairperson Ortolano opened the 26321 Silver Spur Road public hearing. Mr. Albert Sorenson, 27681 Eastvale, Palos Verdes Peninsula, 90274, representing the applicant, discussed the applicant's concern over the location of a pedestrian/equestrial trail in relation to the Church's day care facility. Those opposing the request were: Mr. Bob Vitale Ms. Jean Schmid Mr. Jack Wright 17 Rollingwood Dr., RHE, 90274 15 Rollingwood Dr., RHE, 90274 19 Rollingwood Dr., RHE, 90274 Those opposing the request discussed: flags should. be require m k the height of the proposed addition to evaluate the proposal; concern over view impairment; concern over noise, especially from an organ; and appreciation of the City's consideration of the opinions of residents living in Rolling Hills Estates. Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, representing the Palos Verdes Horsemens' Association, stressed the importance of a pedestrian/equestrian trail at the proposed location. Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously. Chairperson ortolano noted previous resident concerns pertaining to a proposed cross. She discussed that the height of the trees at the location could be restricted to no higher than the structure. She stressed the importance of a pedestrian/equestrian trail easement in order to preserve any future trail options. Since there have been no complaints regarding the noise at the location, she indicated that it would be inappropriate to consider that item. Commissioner Von Hagen thanked the applicant for addressing previous Commission concerns. He related his opposition to a limitation of the tree heights. He discussed his opinion that it would be inappro- priate to address the issue of noise. • Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 3 Commissioner McNulty voiced his opposition to a pedestrian/equestrian trail easement at the location. He commented on his lack of support for limiting the height of the trees at the location. He pointed out that the issue of noise should not be considered. Commissioner Connolly related his hope that the applicant will be more receptive of any future resident concerns. He discussed his opposition to a tree height limitation. He voiced his support of a pedestrian/equestrian trail easement at the location in order to preserve any future trail options in the area. Commissioner Wike pointed out that the Church currently has an organ; so, the future noise at the location should, therefore, be no different than at present. She recommended that the applicant remove the Pine trees at the location. She stressed her strong opposition to a pedestrian/equestrian trail easement at the location, especially with the lack of trail connections in the area. Staff provided information pertaining to the proposed cross, including that it has been redesigned and will be incorporated into an exterior wall and will have no significant view impact. Staff clarified that the concurrent use of the facilities for events such as banquets and receptions should be prohibited. Staff indicated that the applicant's exits and driveways at the location will not be blocked by a pedestrian/ equestrian trail. Director of Environmental Services Benard clarified the location of the proposed pedestrian/equestrian trail. He provided information regarding possible trail connections in the area. With regard to any future noise at the location, he discussed the various options available to the Commission, such as a noise test and the installation of proper insulation. Commissioner Von Hagen moved acceptance of Alternative No. 2 as recommended by staff; seconded by Commissioner McNulty and passed unanimously. Commissioner Wike noted her approval of the pr03ect. However, she reiterated her strong opposition to a pedestrian/equestrian trail easement at the location. Appeal rights were noted. E 11 Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 4 Tentative Parcel Map No. 19021; Director of Environmental Services CUP No. 129; GR No. 1041; EA Benard explained that, because of No. 529 - Irani/Parboundmanesh the Zoning District and General 29375 Indian Valley Plan Designation inconsistencies at the location, the construction of only one unit on the property would be appropriate. He related the applicant's request that the application be acted on according to the information provided in the staff report. Chairperson Ortolano, opened the public hearing. Mr. Robert Cousins, 29325 Indian Valley, related his opposition to the project. He discussed his concern over view impairment and over the large size of the proposed units. Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously. Chairperson Ortolano noted that the applicant could petition to City Council to change the Land Use. Commissioner McNulty moved to deny the project in conjunction with the staff recommendation; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously. Appeal rights were noted. Chairperson Ortolano assured interested parties that they will be notified of any future plans for t �eroperty.if within the notimnq distance and/or provide the City with a self addressed stamped envelope. CONTINUED BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS Height Variation No. 496 - Appeal; Frank Politeo & Associates and Ruth McConnell, 4139 Exultant Dr. None. The staff report was presented by Assistant Planner Carolynn Wilker who noted the address of the property immediately upslope from the appellant's as 4132 (and not 4122) Stalwart. Chairperson Ortolano invited interested parties to speak to the item. 0 • Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 5 Those supporting the appeal were: Mr. Frank Politeo 809 So. Gaffey, San Pedro Appellant's Architect Ms. Ruth McConnell 4139 Exultant Dr. Appellant Those supporting the appeal discussed: the proposed window at the rear of the second story addition would be stained glass; 18 inches would be added to the height of the existing chimney; willingness to trim and maintain the trees at the location; willingness to remove one tree at the location; and two of the City's trees at the location are scheduled for removal. Mr. & Mrs. John Clayton, 4132 Stalwart, opposing the appeal, discussed: concern over view impairment; concern over the increased height of the chimney; concern over the proposed window at the rear of the second story addition; and five trees (not including the City's trees) should be removed. Chairperson Ortolano noted that many to the property. She discussed that City's trees) should be addressed. appropriate to give the Director of decision-making power regarding the from 4132 Stalwart could improve as structural repairs were t five trees {not .including She indicated that it would Environmental Services the trees. She noted that the a result of the appeal. o be made the be view Commissioner Von Hagen related his support of the staff recommendation. Commissioner McNulty discussed that the item could be tentatively approved and returned to the Commission if a decision cannot be reached regarding the trees. Director of Environmental Services Benard suggested that an agreement pertaining to the trees be made in a timely manner in order to insure both parties the option of an appeal to City Council. Commissioner Wike moved approval of Alternative No. 3 as recommended by staff; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously. 0 Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 6 Sign Permit No. Foodmaker, Inc. Major Dhillon 29317 Western Coastal Permit GR No. 1044; JCC Enterprises 6600 Seacove and Coastal Permit GR No. 1046; JCC Enterprises 6600 Seacove L] • 356; Commissioner McNulty moved to and continue the request to the next available meeting; seconded by Commissioner Wike and passed unanimously. No. 31/ Coastal Permit No. 31/GR No. 1044 and Coastal Permit No. 33/GR No. 1046 were considered simultaneously. No. 33/ Director of Environmental Services Benard introduced Associate Planner Ben Ortega who presented the staff report. Chairperson Ortolano invited interested parties to speak to the item. Mr. Bruce Gelb, 21515 Hawthorne, Suite 1140, Union Bank Tower, Torrance, 90503, representing the applicant, related the applicant's general concurrence with the staff recommendations. However, he related the applicant's concern over any future access to the property in the vicinity of Lot No. 11. He requested clarification regarding the fence location (as included in Condition No. 4a to both requests). He clarified that the applicant does not own Lot No. 11 nor does he intend to develop it. Those opposing the requests were: Mr. Ray Barrett Mr. Harley 32859 Seagate Drive 32706 Via Palacio Those opposing the requests discussed: concern over view impairment; view corridors; concern over potential tree view blockage; Mr. Barrett's opposition to an easement for access in the vicinity of Lot No. 11; Mr. Harley's support of an easement for access in the vicinity of Lot No. 11; the proposed setbacks in relation to the catch basins; and concern over the height of the proposed chimneys. Staff explained the specifics of the Coastal Setback Zone. Staff pointed out that the Conditions of Approval for troth projects address the chimney heights. Staff noted that access in the vicinity of Lot No. 11 will be considered at the time of the application for develop- ment of that property. Staff clarified that the proposed fence would be permitted on the applicant's property and not on the easement. 9 Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 7 Director of Environmental Services Benard discussed the landscape and irrigation plan requirements included in the CUP. He pointed out that the CC&Rs include a condition pertaining to tree landscaping requirements. He clarified that structures are not permitted within the 25 foot structure setback but trees are. He indicated that there are substantial distances between the setback area and the Coastal Setback Zone for pedestrian access and that any landscaping in that area would be reviewed by staff. He explained the City's policy pertaining to views, including that a property which is currently taking advantage of a view within the permitted 16 foot height does not, technically, have a view. Commissioner Wike noted that the original Conditions of the tract included solar energy use. She discussed the potential construction of a pool on Lot No. 7 and voiced concern over how a pool would affect the open space on that property. She mentioned the possibility of a trail easement across the Marineland Property. Staff noted that the Coastal Permit Conditions of Approval require that the original CUP Conditions, which include a provision for solar energy use, be adhered to. With regard to Lot No. 7, staff pointed out that the proposed open space is 80 per cent. Director of Environmental Services Benard noted that, with the exception of Seacliff Hills, a pool is not considered lot coverage and that a future application for a pool on Lot No. 7 would require a site plan review. He indicated that an easement for a trail could potentially run across the Marineland property. Commissioner McNulty moved approval of Coastal Permit No. 31/GR No. 1044 and Coastal Permit No. 33/GR No. 1046 pursuant to the staff recommendations, including the revised Conditions of Approval; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously. Appeal rights were noted. Staff indicated that interested parties will be notified of any future requests to develop the remaining lots if witllmn the noticing distance and/or a self addressed stamped envelope is provided. Director of Environmental Services Benard'invit-ed interested parties to review the applicant's forthcoming landscape plans. QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE Mr. David Galas, 29504 Whitley (Regarding Non -Agenda Items) Collins, discussed various items for consideration when evaluating a trail easement. Chairperson Ortolano encouraged Mr. Galas to relate his opinion to the Trails' Committee. v • • Minutes October 13, 1987 Page 8 REPORTS • Staff Director of Environmental Services Benard provided input pertaining to the Los Angeles Design Conference on Saturday, October 24, 1987. Director of Environmental Services Benard indicated that the October 24 Four Cities' Planning Conference has been rescheduled for October 31. Commission Commissioner Von Hagen related his understanding that the next Commission meeting date of October 27 is in conflict with the League of Women Voters meeting which he and Commissioner McNulty plan to attend. He requested that staff verify that date. The Commission welcomed Associate Planner Ben Ortega. The meeting was duly adjourned at approximately 9:50 PM.