PC MINS 19870825M I N U T E S
PLANNING COMMISSION
August 25, 1987
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Chairperson Ortolano
at the Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: CONNOLLY, MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert Benard,
Associate Planner Greg Fuz, Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham,
Assistant Planner Jack Roberts and Assistant Planner Carolynn Wilker.
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
PUBLIC HEARINGS
General Plan Amendment No. 16,
Zone Change No. 15, EA No. 512
Paul Lupo - 28041 Hawthorne
Chairperson Ortolano noted that
communications would be related
during discussion of pertinent
items.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval
of the Consent Calendar; seconded
by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed
unanimously.
Associate Planner Greg Fuz discussed
the staff recommendation to continue
the public hearing until September
8. He mentioned that the applicant
has been notified of the illegal
sign at the location.
Chairperson Ortolano noted a communication from Mr. Earl Lawrence,
28741 Blythewood, in opposition to the request.
There were no requests to speak to the item.
Commissioner McNulty moved to continue the public hearing until
September 8, 1987; seconded by Commissioner Wike and passed
unanimously.
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August 25, 1987
Page 2
Variance No. 162 Commissioner Von Hagen moved to
Barbara A. Wood waive the reading of the staff
6902 Purple Ridge report; seconded by Commissioner
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hariptras2Ortolan opened t e public hearing.
Ms. Barbara Wood, 6902 Purple Ridge, applicant, discussed: her under-
standing that a permit was not necessary if no structural changes were
made; the garage is not equipped with plumbing, heating or windows;
and her lack of desire to add another garage to her property.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to close the public hearing; seconded by
Commissioner McNulty and passed unanimously.
Commissioner Wike stressed the importance of compliance with the--Co'de.
Chairperson Ortolano discussed the Code requirements pertaining to
a two car, enclosed garage.
Commissioner McNulty related his concern over the cumulative impact of
an approval of the request.
Commissioner Von Hagen expressed his opinion that the request should be
denied.
Director of Environmental Services Benard explained his observations.
that the garage, which is currently utilized as a family room, has a
the floor and direct access to the house. He noted the Code require-
ment that a garage floor must be non-combustible.
Commissioner McNulty moved to deny the request; seconded by Commissioner
Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
CUP No. 119, EA No. 515 Chairperson Ortolano related her
Pac Tel Cellular Telephones intent to abstain from the discussion
30940 Hawthorne t
--and voting on he -item -due �o her
affiliation with Pacific Telesis.
Vice Chair Wike opened the public hearing.
Mr. Neil Fitzpatrick, 2355 Main Street, Irvine, 92714, representing the
applicant, discussed: alternative locations; agreement with a monopole
or triangular type tower; the specifics of the Pac Tel Cellular Telephone
system; the FAA requirements related to the proposed tower; the diffi-
culties of determining the Peninsula users; FCC regulations pertaining
to the operators of a facility; and the proposed antenna's installation
costs.
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August 25, 1987
Page 3
Mr. Franklin Weiss, 30711 Via La Cresta, in opposition to the request,
discussed: concern over the cumulative impact of an approval of the
request; alternative sites should be examined; and the City should be
well compensated for the use of its land.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed the idea of a triangular tower. He
related his support of the request and noted that the applicant has
made every effort to minimize the impact of the proposed antenna tower.
He voiced his opinion that an approval of the request would not lead
to other similar applications and he pointed out that Pac Tel has no
way of providing information pertaining to the number of Peninsula users.
Commissioner McNulty related his concern that the owner of the Sunset
Ridge homes did not attend the meeting. He questioned whether the
use would be appropriate at the proposed location. He pointed out
that, in general, sites similar to the proposed are unobtrusive and
are located in industrial or business areas.
Commissioner Connolly expressed his concern over the cumulative impact
of an approval of the request.
Vice Chair Wike discussed the difficulties of moving the antenna.
She voiced concern that interested parties might not be aware of the
request and commented that staff could be requested to explore
alternative locations.
,Staf.f discussed-the_FA1 requirements' -pertaining to the proposed
antenna -tower and provided input regarding -the noticing of the =
item, including that the owner of the Sunset Ridge homes was
notified.
Director of Environmental Services Benard discussed that various
alternative locations were analyzed by the applicant but that they
were not sufficient to cover the shadow on the south side of the
Peninsula. He related the City's intent to negotiate a lease with
the applicant for the use of the City's land and he discussed the
possible terms related thereto. He indicated that view impairment
resulting from the proposed use would be minimal and noted that the
City can be exempt from its ow -n ordinances.
Vice Chair Wike closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved approval of CUP No. 119 and EA No. 515,
including a monopole tower with a bolt -on base, with the understanding
that the concrete base would remain or be excavated should removal or
relocation be necessary in the future, and that the generator and
Condition No. 12 to Exhibit "A" be excluded. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner McNulty.
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August 25, 1987
Page 4
Commissioner Wike moved to amend the motion to include that any
additional antenna proposals should be reviewed by the Planning
Commission.
The amendment was accepted by the maker of the motion and seconded
by Commissioner McNulty.
The motion was defeated by a 2-2 tie vote with Commissioners Connolly
and Wike dissenting (Chairperson Ortolano abstained). No further
motions were offered.
Appeal rights were noted.
CUP No. 121 Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
San Pedro and Peninsula YMCA, presented the staff report.
Palos Verdes Unified School District
30511 Lucania Drive Chairperson Ortolano opened the
Mira Catalina School public hearing.
The Commission noted the support of those present.
Since there was no opposition to the item, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of staff recommendation no. 1;
seconded by Commissioner Wike and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
CUP No. 125 Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
San Pedro and Peninsula YMCA, presented the staff report.
Palos Verdes Unified School District
30540 Rue de la Pierre Chairperson Ortolano opened the
Pt. Vicente Elementary School public hearing.
The Commission noted the support of those present.
Since there was no opposition to the item, the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed the traffic/parking at the location.
Commissioner Wike commented that the portable facility could be
landscaped.
Staff explained that the School District is aware of the staff recommen-
dation of a loading zone at the location. Staff indicated that the
Commission could require landscaping around the portable facility;
however, it is surrounded by other portable classrooms which are utilized
by the School District.
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August 25, 1987
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Commissioner McNulty moved approval of the staff recommendation;
seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
Variance No. 169 Assistant Planner Carolynn
Hal Lindsey Wilker presented the staff
19 Coveview report.
Chairperson Ortolano opened the public hearing.
The proponents of the request were:
Mr. & Mrs. Hal Lindsey
Mr. Fred Ballin
Ms. Judy Hribar
19 Coveview Applicant
17 Coveview
5 Moonmist
The proponents of the request discussed: the existing shrubbery would
soften the impact of the proposed wall; the wall at 17 Coveview was
built before the City's incorporation; the improvements the applicant
has made to the property; and the reasons behind the request.
In opposition to the request were:
Ms. Gabriele Lancaster
Mr. Bill Halladay
22 Coveview
20 Coveview
Those opposing the request discussed: concern over the cumulative
impact of an approval of the request; alternative suggestions for
security; concern over parking; and agreement with the idea of an
open community.
Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded by
Commissioner Wike and passed unanimously.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed the City's General Plan which includes
the idea of an open community. He explained the applicant's unique
situation and pointed out that staff could recommend alternative
methods of security which would be within the Code.
Chairperson Ortolano discussed alternative methods of security. She
related her concern over the cumulative impact of an approval of the
request.
Commissioner Wike discussed alternative methods of security. She
voiced her opposition to the request.
Commissioner Connolly discussed alternative methods of security.
He stated his lack of support for the request.
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August 25, 1987
Page 6
Commissioner McNulty stressed the importance of an open community.
He discussed his concern over the cumulative impact of an approval
of the request.
Staff provided information pertaining to alternative methods of
security.
Director of Environmental Services Benard noted that the existing
wall at 17 Coveview, which is not within the front property setback,
was constructed prior to the City's incorporation. He expressed
staff's willingness to discuss alternatives with the applicant.
Commissioner Connolly moved to deny the request; seconded by Commissioner
McNulty and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
CUP No. 126,
EA No. 531
Times Mirror Cable
of Palos Verdes
5300 Crest Road
Sister Mary Jensch,
discussed: concern
noise; and traffic.
Television
Assistant Planner Jack Roberts
presented the staff report.
Chairperson Ortolano opened the
public hearing.
5300 Crest Road, representing the landowners,
over the abandoned equipment at the location;
Commissioner Von Hagen voiced concern over the lengthy application
process. He pointed out that the equipment maintenance at the site
cannot be scheduled and indicated that the proposed tower would
eliminate the noise at the location.
Commissioner McNulty voiced his concern over the inconvenience related
to a continuance of the request. He related his opinion that the City
should not become involved with the accessibility to the property.
Chairperson Ortolano discussed her opinion that public testimony
should be taken. She mentioned that the location needs to be cleaned
and introduced the idea of requiring a Times Mirror maintenance schedule.
She suggested that staff address the six concerns as listed in the
staff report upon the items return to the Commission.
Director of Environmental Services Benard discussed the application
process related to the request. With regard to the idea of a
continuance, he indicated that the deficiencies of the application
were not apparent until after the application was noticed. He
requested a copy of the lease between the applicant and the landowners.
Staff provided information regarding the applicant's leasehold agreement
with the landowner.
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August 25, 1987
Page 7
Commissioner McNulty moved to continue the public hearing to
September 22; seconded by Commissioner Connolly and passed unanimously.
Variance No. 172 Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
Lin presented the staff report.
26608 Honey Creek Road
Chairperson Ortolan opened the
public hearing.
Since there were no requests to speak to the item, the public hearing
was closed.
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of the staff recommendation;
seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen.
Commissioner Wike stressed the importance of a hand railing.
Staff .indicated that the requirement of a hand railing is included
in Section 7 of the applicable resolution.
The motion was passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
Grading No. 971
Dwight Gilger
30691 Calle de Suenos
None.
Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
presented the staff report.
Mr. Dwight Gilger, 27113 Mesaba,
applicant, discussed: the specifics of the request; willingness
to exclude one of the proposed retaining walls; and agreement with
staff's grading calculations.
Mr. Tim Nelson, 20638 Lemay Street, Canoga Park, 91306, designer,
discussed: efforts to comply with the City's building requirements
and the easement running across the north portion of the property.
Chairperson ortolano voiced concern that the proposed design disturbs
the natural contours. She commented on methods which would reduce
the amount of proposed grading.
Commissioner Connolly discussed the difficulties of making the findings
for an approval of the request.
Commissioner Wike stressed that the proposed grading should be minimized
and suggested that the applicant be directed to redesign.
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August 25, 1987
Page 8
Because of the difficulty of the applicant's lot, Commissioner Von
Hagen expressed his support of the proposed grading with some
mitigating measures.
Commissioner McNulty related his opinion that a continuance of the
item would be appropriate.
Director of Environmental Services Benard related staff's willingness
to work with the applicant to achieve a design with a reduced amount
of grading. He noted that the item would not be returned to the
Commission, should the amount of grading be less than 1,000 cubic yards.
Commissioner Wike moved to continue the public hearing; seconded by
Commissioner McNulty and passed unanimously.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE
(Regarding Non -Agenda Items)
REPORTS
Staff
None.
Staff noted the August 25 memorandum
pertaining to carports.
Commissioner Von Hagen and Chairperson Ortolano related their objection
to allowing carports as primary parking structures and in general.
Commissioner Wike discussed the Code requirements pertaining to
carports.
With regard to carport approvals, Commissioner Connolly voiced his
support of the current system. He suggested that the Commission
should be advised of any future carport approvals at the staff level.
Staff provided input regarding the status of the Library Trail
encroachment.
Staff discussed Council's action regarding the Martingale lot.
Commission
Chairperson Ortolano suggested that a
strategy be developed to reduce the
amount of time it takes a trail item
to be presented to the Commission.
Director of Environmental Services Benard explained that the Commission
will be advised when a related strategy is developed.
Commissioner Connolly stated that he will not attend the September 8
meeting.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was duly adjourned at
approximately 11:20 PM.